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K1visa fiancé child

Hello all

I filed my I129f form just recently. I included my fiancé child name on the form (because the form ask for her children's name)but my fiancé has no intentions of bringing her child to the US as yet( as she does not have full custody). Does this in anyway affect the process if she submitted the child's name? And /or by including her child's name, does that mean my fiancé is automatically filing for her daughter?

Thanks in advance

way99ne

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2014-03-11 18:44:00

K1 Visa Alien Registration Number

Hello All,

Why does your Alien Registration Number change when doing the K-1 visa process?

and what happens to your Certificate of Naturalization(with old Number)? I presume this is the same number we are talking about?

Thanks

way99ne

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2014-03-13 13:52:00

Thanks jay-Kay and all. Appreciate the info

way99ne

Not Telling

2014-03-18 20:40:00

I checked visa journey for the forms need for k-1 visa and that form was listed. Must be outdated. I am just jumping the gun and see what I need to prepare in the future. That's why I was asking the question about DS-156k.

way99ne

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2014-03-18 20:12:00

[quote name="Jay-Kay" post="6888024" timestamp="1395181977"]

Why are you filling out that form? I do not see it listed in the instructions for China > http://www.ustraveld...nstructions.pdf

I check the forms in visa journey at are need for k-1 visa and this form was listed. It must be outdated then

My fiancée is chinese and working in Jamaica. She will be doing the interview in Jamaica.

way99ne

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2014-03-18 20:08:00

Why are you filling out that form? I do not see it listed in the instructions for China > http://www.ustraveld...nstructions.pdf

way99ne

Not Telling

2014-03-18 20:05:00

Hello All,

Form DS-156K, lists that all unmarried children under age of 21 must be listed(Question #5). And that birth certificate must be submitted.

FYI: My fiancée(beneficiary) is a Chinese Citizen

My fiancée is not applying for her child to accompany her to the US.

she is having trouble getting the birth certificate from her former husband.

My fiancée has her child's ID paper with her information but no picture(standard piece of paper for citizens).

I presume whether or not the child is accompanying my fiancée or not, they require this info and documents(birth cert)

Do we HAVE TO get the birth certificate of the child? Or will this ID suffice?

Please advise or any recommendations

Thanks in advance

way99ne

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2014-03-18 14:23:00

Thanks ...

way99ne

Not Telling

2014-03-21 10:14:00

You will need to get her an updated letter of intent along with your I-134 Affadavit of Support....along with you support documents....ie.. paystubs, W-2, ITR....

She will need her birth certificate.....especially if she is coming here...u know....insurance and stuff like that..plus to get U.S Passport eventually

Yeah, so if your fiancee's child is not accompanying her, then no need to worry about the child's birth certificate...

Thanks . appreciate it.

way99ne

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2014-03-21 08:52:00

Hello All,

I would appreciate all the info and advice please.

My Fiancee(the beneficiary) is a Chinese citizen with a 2 year old child(living in china) that is working in Jamaica. The child will not be accompanying her to the US(no K-2 filed).

I have sent in my I-129F packet and got NOA1. she will doing the interview from Jamaica.

If you could please answer the below questions:

1) What other forms or letter will (I or her) need to complete besides the I-134 and DS-160?

2) Will my finacee need her birth certificate or will passport suffice?

3) Does my fiancée need the birth certificate of her child? the child only has an ID paper(standard for all citizens)with NO pic. the ex-husband is giving her trouble with getting the birth certificate.

4) I input the wrong birth date of my fiancée child. Do I make a note (of the error I made filling out the I-129F form) when filling out the upcoming forms?, do I call or email informing of error, and if so, what department/phone number/email?

thanks for all the help. this process gets overwhelming at times. I guess its not being familiar with it. Im so appreciative of VJ. I has helped me tremendously thus far.

Hello All,

I posted this yesterday but no replies as yet.

Any help with the above.

Thanks again

way99ne

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2014-03-20 07:26:00

Hello All,

I would appreciate all the info and advice please.

My Fiancee(the beneficiary) is a Chinese citizen with a 2 year old child(living in china) that is working in Jamaica. The child will not be accompanying her to the US(no K-2 filed).

I have sent in my I-129F packet and got NOA1. she will doing the interview from Jamaica.

If you could please answer the below questions:

1) What other forms or letter will (I or her) need to complete besides the I-134 and DS-160?

2) Will my finacee need her birth certificate or will passport suffice?

3) Does my fiancée need the birth certificate of her child? the child only has an ID paper(standard for all citizens)with NO pic. the ex-husband is giving her trouble with getting the birth certificate.

4) I input the wrong birth date of my fiancée child. Do I make a note (of the error I made filling out the I-129F form) when filling out the upcoming forms?, do I call or email informing of error, and if so, what department/phone number/email?

thanks for all the help. this process gets overwhelming at times. I guess its not being familiar with it. Im so appreciative of VJ. I has helped me tremendously thus far.

way99ne

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2014-03-19 11:31:00

K-1 Visa Beneficiary Passport

I'm sorry that I couldn't be of much help but I did google the K1 visa requirements for China and here's what I found: http://guangzhou.use...ts_-_OF-169.pdf

There's a section in there that says: UNOBTAINABLE BIRTH CERTIFICATES

Hope this helps. All the best to your journey!

Thank you.

way99ne

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2014-04-07 17:41:00

K-1 Visa Beneficiary Passport

Which part of the K-1 visa process are you? If she doesn't have one, can't she request from her country?

Please take time as well to fill-out your timeline, so helpful people here will know how to assist you.

I just received NOA1 March 14, 2014.

She was born at her house, in China. No birth certificate. she only has a passport and National ID Paper.

way99ne

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2014-04-07 17:11:00

K-1 Visa Beneficiary Passport

Just want to confirm this.

My Fiancee(beneficiary) does not have a birth certificate. she only has passport.

will this suffice(copy of all the pages of her passport) for all necessary ID, etc?

Thanks

way99ne

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2014-04-07 14:54:00

K-1 visa medical question vaccinations

Also, you should consult with your obstetrician before the medical and have him/her write a note to the civil surgeon explaining why you can or can't have any vaccinations. That's what we did.

thanks, really appreciate your advice.

all the best..

way99ne

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2014-05-17 12:21:00

K-1 visa medical question vaccinations

No live virus vaccinations while pregnant. You really should consult with your doctor before having ANY vaccinations.

Thanks,

does that mean we should terminate the visa process. she is now pregnant and we will most likely get our NOA2 and interview date within the next 2-4 months?

or will she be excused from doing the vaccinations(since she is pregnant)?

we will be consulting with her physicians asap.

do you know how many vaccinations there are?

thanks for your help

way99ne

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2014-05-17 08:09:00

K-1 visa medical question vaccinations

Hello all

Are the vaccination necessary for the medical portion of the K-1 visa process harmful to unborn babies ?
I was told my fiancée cannot get pregnant (within 6 month) if she gets vaccinated or if she is already pregnant she cannot do the vaccinations.

Would be grateful for any advice.

Thanks all

way99ne

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2014-05-16 19:59:00

Dealing with a previous marriage in a high fraud country.

Many thanks, everyone! I spent the entire evening downloading our 75,127 Facebook messenger messages. I'm going through and deleting some so I can just give them samples because printing this thing is going to be a novel. I bolded every time a Facebook Video call was made, which we do (like Skype) about once a week. The downloaded messages are in editable format, so I'm also including snapshots of some those conversations as further backup. I'm showing snapshots from about 5 to 7 conversations a month in addition to the text.

I spoke to my fiancé and he said he would be happy to get affidavits from his family and friends, including his mother, brother, and sisters. I will do the same.

I will keep you all posted. I truly, truly appreciate the excellent advice, specific answers, links to other resources, encouragement, etc.

God bless

~ elizabeth

Edited by Elchelle, 11 March 2014 - 12:43 AM.

Elchelle

Female

Egypt

2014-03-11 00:40:00

Dealing with a previous marriage in a high fraud country.

ha At least another 8 more days.

OP if it was me in this situation...Yes I would DHL every piece of proof to the consulate (dont know if Egypt Consulate accepts it or not)

Notarized letters (affidavits) from your immediate family stating awareness and approvals of your relationship with your fiance could help, but most of all HIS family would be better!!! You did not mention much about their support of their son/brother/ex and your relationship. As the other ladies from MENA were asking/mentioning/helping with past experiences, not just opinions...... Your differences of Religion might be questioned. Is he really ok with you not being a Muslima? How can he leave his children? Does he have his parents blessings with this?

Your red flags are going to come up in the interview whether you have a lawyer or not.
They will come up whether you liked the posts on VJ or not.
From what your stated....
You "started" your relationship with a married man with the Orfi pass then, He was denied a visitor visa in March, which in normal cases (k1)might not have come in to play except he was going to visit you while still married. (If it comes up will he be able to explain why he would want to come visit a female "friend" leaving his wife and children for just a visit?) I ask because you mentioned he was shy and quiet. The two visas might not intermingle but if you look at the bigger picture....it looks like rapid fire attempts to immigrate. Oh but that is just my opinion.

He divorced in June. You filed a K1 few days after.

Your fiance needs to speak up. Have his facts ready. Be willing to answer in complete sentences and with supporting info. Not just yes or No.

Good Luck to you and please keep us informed.

Thank you, again.

It was a "rapid fire attempt to immigrate." He and I wanted to be together, and I wanted him to meet my family as soon as possible. We actually went the visitor visa route on the advice of our immigration attorney. Now I wish if never hired the attorney. I think I already wrote do not trust his competence (the lawyer) at this point.

My fiancé's family is supportive. His father died when he was child, but his mother is very supportive, particularly because it was her who pressured him into the traditional marriage (for two years until he gave in) when he did not want it. His mother then saw him utterly miserable for seven years with a wife with whom he fought constantly, and who constantly left him to return to her mother. His mother does not want him to leave Egypt because he is her youngest living son, but she supports this relationship because he truly loves me, and this relationship makes him happy. I know this, and his sister has told me the same thing.

Obviously, his family's affidavits would be in Arabic. This would be okay with the embassy?

Elchelle

Female

Egypt

2014-03-10 18:32:00

Dealing with a previous marriage in a high fraud country.

I didn't see anyone mention this here but another option would be to go to Egypt, marry there, and file for a CR-1 / IR-1 to bring him over as your husband / immediate relative. Those visas have higher approval rates than the K-1, which is just the fiancé/fiancée visa.

This is Plan B, SofiaIsabella, if he is denied. I am happy to know they have a higher approval rate.

Elchelle

Female

Egypt

2014-03-10 18:20:00

Dealing with a previous marriage in a high fraud country.

Thank you, thank you, everyone!

Elchelle

Female

Egypt

2014-03-10 17:47:00

Dealing with a previous marriage in a high fraud country.

hmmm.. what have you contributed to this forum, other than asking a bunch of questions of regarding packet 3 (when you already have a lawyer?), and being rude to people here when you don't get the answers you like?

I haven't been rude to anyone, so I hope this isn't directed at me.

Elchelle

Female

Egypt

2014-03-10 12:57:00

Dealing with a previous marriage in a high fraud country.

Evidence of talking a lot, meeting in person, spending time with each other's family. So, Skype logs, boarding passes, photos, maybe FB/email logs. IMO, I think even with this, with him being from Egypt and leaving his wife to be with you (looks a lot like he just wants to move stateside), you'll go through AP anyway.

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Thanks.

I know AP means administrative processing, but what does that mean? What do they do?

This is not meant toward anyone, it is my frustration, but people all over the world leave their spouses for other people everyday. After 20 years of marriage, my uncle left my aunt for another woman, whom he married. It happens. This "it automatically means he only wants a Visa" stuff is crazy.

Elchelle

Female

Egypt

2014-03-10 12:46:00

Dealing with a previous marriage in a high fraud country.

To mimolicious and Ihavequestions, and BeccaBecca, and others, thank you for your responses. I know my relationship. I know what happens sometimes with fraud. Whether Muslim men can marry three wives or four wives in Egypt is really not relevant here. I thank you all for pointing that out to me, and I appreciate your knowledge, but I'm seeking advice on how to overcome the red flags. I am aware of the red flags, which was the point of the post in the first place. No one has actually given me any advice solid about what to do about it and how he can prepare for the interview.

Elchelle

Female

Egypt

2014-03-10 12:24:00

Dealing with a previous marriage in a high fraud country.

Oh, God! I have been reading all the posts and it seems so complicated!

I can tell you that me, being Greek, had a long discussion at the Embassy about the fact that neither me or my finace had yet been divorced when we decided to take our relationship a step further and got engaged. We were both separated (him for more than a year and me for about 7 months) when this happened, but the CO had a lot of questions to ask me. She even wanted to know how I felt about getting involved in a serious relationship so soon after my separation.

My advise would be to be truthful, detail oriented and see if you could be there to attend the interview.

Good luck and stay strong!

Thank you! Is Greece considered a "high fraud" country?

I don't think I can be there for the interview because of 'llmy job, so I am going to need to send him in with a lot of paperwork. Ironically, I'll be working in another Middle Eastern country when we suspect his interview willl be.

Elchelle

Female

Egypt

2014-03-10 08:24:00

Dealing with a previous marriage in a high fraud country.

Okay, paper evidence. That is my question. What kind? Do I send it with him? What kind of questions can he expect?

Edited by Elchelle, 10 March 2014 - 07:11 AM.

Elchelle

Female

Egypt

2014-03-10 07:09:00

Dealing with a previous marriage in a high fraud country.

sli

Yeah looks like an orfi marriage contract. You can google that to learn more. If it is an orfi contract than from what I have heard it is not legally binding in Egypt.

http://orfi-wives-eg...rriage.html?m=1

I would spend some time preparing for your intercultural marriage/marriage to an arab muslim by reading books and seeking the wisdom of others you can sit down with face to face. There are a lot of great things to think through. Can't speak to your questions too much but do encourage you to seek counsel.

Yes, I researched this when we first made the contract, but there are *so many* Muslim laws I do not yet know or understand. I do know that my husand/fiance is Muslim, which I respect, and I am not, which he respects. This contract was something I did for him because he felt it spiritually necessary, and I thought the sentiment of respect for us and our love was genuine and sweet.

The Embassy does have this document.

Thank you again, Shahara 2013! I'm glad it is an urfi marriage. It sounds like if I had signed a Katab al Kitab I would have had to start the visa process over again as a spouse!

Elchelle

Female

Egypt

2014-03-10 00:30:00

Dealing with a previous marriage in a high fraud country.

it is legal read this
Please note that the nonimmigrant fiancé(e) (K-1) visa is created to enable you to travel to the United States in order to marry your U.S. citizen fiancé(e) in the United States within 90 days from your arrival date to the United States. Both the U.S. citizen and the K-1 visa applicant must have been legally free to marry at the time the petition was filed and must have remained so thereafter (during the visa interview). By signing a marriage contract (Katib Al Kitab), you are considered to be legally and officially married under both Egyptian and U.S. law, regardless of consummation of marriage or the holding of a wedding party.
You are legally married

Will you please provide a link? I cannot find on the Embassy website.

Elchelle

Female

Egypt

2014-03-10 00:23:00

Dealing with a previous marriage in a high fraud country.

Maybe she signed an orfi marriage contract?

Maybe? I'll ask my fiance tomorrow. I do know that he told me, point blank, this is not a "legal marriage" in Egypt, and several others have told me the same.

This is the best I could translate it:

Customary marriage contract

That on /(date) approved marriage was between:

Name of Husband / _________________________________

Card No: ____________________________

The name of the wife / ___________________________________

and residing in

State / State / City / Street /________________________________________

Passport number :_______________________________________________

This was the contract by mutual consent, and acceptance in terms of this contract will be for Wife right to demand their husbands all the legitimate rights.

This marriage is valid once signed by the parties, and the husband should pay the wife a dowry and agreed upon the Parties until a formal contract.

Witnesses 1- ____________________________________

Card No.__________________________________________

Witness 2 -_____________________________

Card No__________________________________

Elchelle

Female

Egypt

2014-03-10 00:15:00

Dealing with a previous marriage in a high fraud country.

Each arab country/culture has their own laws/pecularities - Egypt is not my forte so perhaps you are right. Good luck with your interview!

Thank you!!

And thank yout to everyone who has replied, thus far!

Edited by Elchelle, 09 March 2014 - 11:33 PM.

Elchelle

Female

Egypt

2014-03-09 23:28:00

Dealing with a previous marriage in a high fraud country.

Are we sure katab al kitab (islamic marriage / the thing a lot of arabs sign when they get engaged to make everything halal (permissible) is not considered a legal marriage in egypt? It sounds like you might be married on paper. In other arab countries this is legal marriage. On a side note-Muslim men can marry 4 women. We wish you luck and want the best for you.

Yes, I understand Muslim men can marry 4 women, but for some reason in Egypt they are limited to 3.

I have been told by my fiance and by many others that this type of marriage contract is not legal in Egypt. We have tried to use one hotel room in Egypt several times (which is illegal for unmarried couples), showed this contract, and we were told it is not legal, so we had to pay for TWO hotel rooms.

Elchelle

Female

Egypt

2014-03-09 23:16:00

Dealing with a previous marriage in a high fraud country.

In Egypt, I believe a man can only be legally married three women, but it doesn't really matter. The fact is he can marry more than one at a time, so it does not seem odd that he might begin a relationship with another woman while married.

So, you think the traditional marriage is another red flag? He and I thought it was less of a red flag because it was traditional, they were miserable, and there was no love between them.

He said many men leave their children to go work in other countries and come back and visit them. I know this happens because I've seen it. His cousin move to Jordan to work for three years and never saw his children. His father worked on the Sinai Peninsula most of the year, and he only saw his father one month out of the year throughout his childhood.

I am 40, and he is 37, so the age difference is only three years. He's Muslim, obviously, and I am not generally religious. I've never been married. We post have post graduate degrees, and we both work in education.

Edited by Elchelle, 09 March 2014 - 10:04 PM.

Elchelle

Female

Egypt

2014-03-09 21:58:00

Dealing with a previous marriage in a high fraud country.

My fiancé's K1 interview has not been scheduled, but we should be contacted any day now. I am a nervous wreck about my fiancé being interviewed again in Cairo. He was denied a Visitor's Visa last March to come see me, and he said the place was "atrocious". He's very shy and quiet. I think they rattled him sorely. The Cairo Embassy employees are apparently notorious for being difficult, rude and downright mean.

Reading posts on this site makes me panic even more. I read a lot about previous marriages being "red flags" in high fraud countries like Egypt. My fiancé was married when we started our romantic relationship. Here's the story: I'm an archaeologist, and I met my fiancé on an archaeological dig in 2006. We became friends, and there were definitely sparks between us, but he lives in rural Southern Egypt and had no access to the Internet after I left. He waited for me to return in 2007, even though there was no romance yet, but I was in a horrible car accident, and could not return again until January 2013. By that time, he was married and had kids, but we knew the second we saw each other again that nothing between us had changed, and unspoken feelings from years before became spoken and declared. We knew we had to go on with the relationship, which was possible because in 2013 he had access to the Internet, a Facebook account, Skype, email etc., unlike years before. We had both previously tried to find each other on Facebook, to no avail.

My main is concern is that he was married when we met the second time and started our relationship. He was in what he calls a "traditional" marriage. In America, we would call them arranged marriages. They are very common in rural Southern Egypt. There was no love between the two, to say the least, and they barely knew each other before they got married. At age 30, he was an old bachelor, and his mother and his brother and the village patriarch had been hounding him to marry for years. Finally he gave in and said fine. They were never happy, and had split up several times only to unite again to please their families. They are in a clan/family/ duty pressure oriented society. They live in a small village where everybody knows everybody, and everybody is related to everybody. Also, in Egypt when a man divorces a woman, he really gets financially screwed. He must financially support her until their children are out of the house, or she marries again, and he must pay her a lump sum of money upfront that is the size of the Dowery (in my fiancé's case, this was equal to more than one year of his salary).

Despite the very difficult time he had with his family, and with raising the money, they divorced in June, after he had enough time to save money for the divorce. He sacrificed a lot, and he has endured an enormous amount of grief from his family, the Kabir (patriarch, his uncle) and his village to be with me.

The truth is, he asked me to move to Egypt, but I can't imagine living there. I love the country and the people, but I am a successful professor. I have tenure, which took years, and Egypt is unstable economically and politically. I am also an independent, self-made woman, an I without starting a debate, I will just say that I am very grateful to be a woman in America.

So...he agreed to move here and visit his children once or twice a year. We have spoken about bringing them to live here with us when they are older.

We filed our first paperwork for a K1 visa a few days after he divorced his ex-wife. This may be what they call a "red flag". Will he be grilled about it? How do we prove in that our relationship is legitimate, and he was in a loveless, arranged marriage? Surely, the COs know Egypt is a country where one man can marry up to three women at one time. And though it is certainly not ideal, married people do fall in love with other people, do leave their spouses, and do marry again. It happens all the time everywhere in the world.

To make matters worse, when we filed for the visitors visa, he was still married, so I put our relationship status as "friend." I hope they do not question this too.

I hired an attorney, whom I have found less than helpful. She said we sent a "complete file" with packet one. After reading on this site, I feel we needed much more supporting evidence of a valid relationship. I feel I did not front laid nearly enough. We sent photos, copies of all of my plane tickets from visits, copies of my passports with entry and exit dates for Egypt, intents to marry, and a marriage contract my fiancé had me sign that is not legal, but is a spiritual contract in Islam.

I am thinking of sending an additional packet via DHL to the embassy that also includes snapshots of Facebook conversations from the last year and a half, emails exchanged between my fiancé and my mother, and affidavits of a legitimate relationship signed by me, my mother, my stepfather, and anyone else who will vouch for us.
I don't want to send it with my fiancé to take to his interview because I read on this site that often the COs don't even look at the evidence brought by the beneficiary.

I am looking for any advice, tips, suggestions for the interview, and what we can do before the interview, to avoid a denial based on his previous marriage in a high fraud country.

I know this is long, but I wanted everyone to have all of the details. Thank you so much in advance for any advice and support!

Edited by Elchelle, 09 March 2014 - 09:35 PM.

Elchelle

Female

Egypt

2014-03-09 21:28:00

Denied - Need Advice

I'm sorry this has happened to you. Good luck! Hang in!

Elchelle

Female

Egypt

2014-03-18 00:05:00

Confused!

for now the only form is the i129f., I don't know how much it costs. you can read about others going through the process and I'm sure someone else will chime in with more information.

all immigration forms are on the uscis website, so check the i129f

www.uscis.gov/forms

aleful

Female

Argentina

2013-10-27 09:14:00

Confused!

hi,

I don't know the answer about the name, but the Alien number is your resident number, meaning your GC number

once you enter the US and marry, you will need to adjust status to become a LPR.

immigration will give you an Alien number which will be the number on your GC.

the K1 is a non immigrant visa, it's only to legally enter the country to marry.

to become a permanent resident you will have to do a second process, the adjustment of status, where you will get your A#

aleful

Female

Argentina

2013-10-27 06:20:00

Need help on I34

hi,

yes, you are responsible for them until they become USC. at this time they could file for citizenship but since they are currently LPR, you are still their sponsor until they become USC, so you must put both of them and make enough to cover you and your fiance as well as your parents.

aleful

Female

Argentina

2013-11-04 00:10:00

Same sex couple K1 or lesbian wedding?

What is the K1 situation for same sex couples?

We have a lesbian friend who recently got engaged to her girlfriend from Japan. What are their options. If she leaves the country at the moment it seems they can't file for K1. Could they get married in the states (one which allows gay marriage) and file for AOS?

One extra curve ball... her student visa is already expired.

Thanks

none, there is no way to adjust status for same sex marriages.

aleful

Female

Argentina

2011-08-27 13:10:00

please what i can do

how can you have a GC if you didn't get married? you never adjusted status

you had to return to your country, so now you are here illegally and you cannot adjust status here.

aleful

Female

Argentina

2013-11-07 21:42:00