ForumTitleContentMemberSexCountryDate/Time
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresCSC has changed it's processing date for I-129Fs
The whole thing is postively Kafka-esque...on every single level. Maybe we should all change our name to Josef K... :unsure: :blink: :wacko:
Kirsten LNot TellingFrance2006-08-25 23:33:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresCSC has changed it's processing date for I-129Fs

I assume that's meant to protect them (CYA) since they don't have to respond to you if your NOA1 date is not 30 days past their posted processing dates. Nice work, huh?


I'm sure that's exactly why they did this...In any event, it's really, really crappy. <_<
Kirsten LNot TellingFrance2006-08-25 22:28:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresCSC has changed it's processing date for I-129Fs
Please don't shoot the messenger...but get this. I just looked at the CSC list of current processing dates. After being stuck at March 6th for an eternity, they've finally changed the I-129F entry. It now says February 23rd. Apparently the CSC's odometer is going backwards. UGH! I'm just glad God is bigger than USCIS. I'm praying for all of us CSC filers--past and present--to be out of the black hole much faster than imaginable.

And here's to more weekend approvals...
Kirsten LNot TellingFrance2006-08-25 22:17:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresInterview Passed today
FANTATIC NEWS!!! WOW!!! Bask in the light of knowing you are through the worst! CONGRATULATIONS!!!

:dance: :D :dance: :D :dance: :D :dance:
Kirsten LNot TellingFrance2006-08-22 07:20:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresFinally NAO2!!!!!
Congratulations and all the very best to you both for the next steps ahead. Enjoy this moment of triumph!

:dance: :) :dance: :) :dance: :) :dance:
Kirsten LNot TellingFrance2006-08-26 16:44:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresCSC Approval on Aug 24
That's marvelous news...and it gives the rest of us CSCers hope. Bask in the moment!! May the rest of your journey be quick and without major incident!!

:joy: :dance: :D : :goofy:

Edited by Kirsten L, 25 August 2006 - 09:01 PM.

Kirsten LNot TellingFrance2006-08-25 21:00:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresAbout freakin time!!!!
Congratulations! Hope it means an approval is on its way very, very soon!!

:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
Kirsten LNot TellingFrance2006-08-25 17:51:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresAPPROVED!!!!!!!!!!!
CONGRATULATIONS!!! Well, CSC may not do anything during the week, but apparently somebody's actually working over there on the weekends! :lol: Bizarre, but a happy thing. Enjoy this moment! May the road ahead by smooth for you both and all waiting soon be at an end.

:dance: :) :dance: :) :dance: :) :dance:
Kirsten LNot TellingFrance2006-08-26 14:53:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresAlexander & Clara
Welcome to the virutal waiting room. Like the others, I would recommend waiting a while before putting down deposits for anything wedding-related. Better safe than sorry. In the meantime, you've found a lot of really supportive people here. Congratulations on getting your NOA1. It's a start! :)

P.S. You two make a really lovely couple!
Kirsten LNot TellingFrance2006-08-26 08:57:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures*takes ticket and stands in line*
Congratulations on getting your paperwork in the mail, and welcome to what could have been Franz Kafka's worst nightmare. May you awaken soon to find you are in another book altogether...The Wizard of Oz, perhaps, after the melting of the Wicked Witch. :D

Glad to have you on board. :)
Kirsten LNot TellingFrance2006-08-25 23:28:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresAPPROVED!!!!!
Happy Friggin' Birthday!! How cool is THAT? Perfect timing!!

CONGRATULATIONS!!!

:dance: :D :dance: :D :dance: :thumbs: :dance: :D :dance: :D :dance:
Kirsten LNot TellingFrance2006-08-25 17:54:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresPetition sent!
Welcome aboard, friend. :)

The number that you need to keep an eye on your case through USCIS is going to be on the NOA1, yes, and also stamped on the back of the check you wrote to them once they cash it. Check with your bank. Many financial institutions now provide images of both the front and back of the check once it's cleared. If you've set up online banking, chances are you'll be able to get the number off the back of the check before you get your NOA1 in the mail. :D

Best of luck to you!
Kirsten LNot TellingFrance2006-08-25 22:35:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures157 days Later
OH MY GOSH! Just saw this!! CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!

Apparently there is some justice in the world...Now we just need to get Gary, Icey, KitKat and Sleepless on their way!!

Wonderful news, ####### Journey!!! May the steps ahead be much less troublesome. :)

:dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :D

Edited by Kirsten L, 21 August 2006 - 09:43 PM.

Kirsten LNot TellingFrance2006-08-21 21:43:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresYAY!!!
Congratulations, Necrotica! Look for the official NOA1 to come from California sometime in the next couple of weeks. Hopefully less, but I'd plan on at least that. Mine took 13 days from the time my packet was received at the NSC. You're on your way. :thumbs:
Kirsten LNot TellingFrance2006-08-28 22:14:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresTHE SIGN!!! finally Approved!!!

i just wana say that we got the approval of the much awaited noa2... AUG 28... and we're so thankful to the Almighty for bringing us the sign we've been asking... and thanks for this forum to keep my mind and hands busy while waiting!!!
im just so happy and I'LL PRAY FOR THOSE WHO ARE STILL WAITING COZ I KNOW THE FEELING...


WooHOOOO!!!! Nice to see a fellow CSCer getting through. I'm dancing for joy with you!!! Congratulations to you both!!

:dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :thumbs:

Congrats!

We got approved today also =)

Hoping the other VJ'ers get their approvals soon!


Congratulations to you, too alli! Just saw that you'd been approved today, too! WUNDERBAR!!

That's TWO CSCers today...better than we were doing this time last week!!

:D :D :D :D :D :D
Kirsten LNot TellingFrance2006-08-28 23:35:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresNew VisaJourney timeline for CSC

Gary are you updating the page?...when I click on the link or copy and paste the address...i get a blank page....


I had the same question. Not because I had trouble viewing the page. Just because I'm wondering if you're filling stuff in as new info comes along...like the approvals today. Curious...
Kirsten LNot TellingFrance2006-08-29 00:08:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresNew VisaJourney timeline for CSC
Wow! That is indeed a beautiful list...Thanks so much for putting that together, Gary!! :)
Kirsten LNot TellingFrance2006-08-27 22:42:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresMy K1 Application was just approved,,91 days !!!
Wonderful news!!! Congratulations!!!

May the next portion of your journey unfold quickly and happily for you both. :D

Man, it's so weird that after hearing almost nothing out of the CSC all week suddenly we have a string of approvals today. Let's hope they keep the momentum going...

:thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs:
Kirsten LNot TellingFrance2006-08-26 16:41:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresI don't believe in God, so my thanks is to my love.
Great news! Congratulations! Can you fill in your timeline with all the appropriate information so that we can add your data to the statistics that are being kept? It would be great to know where you filed and when. How many RFEs you had, etc. May the road ahead be smooth for you both. :)

:time:
Kirsten LNot TellingFrance2006-08-29 07:27:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresAPPROVED
Congratulations. :)
Kirsten LNot TellingFrance2006-08-28 22:16:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresAPPROVED!!!
This is wonderful news, Juliekins!!! What a long wait you've had. May the steps ahead be much, much quicker and smoother for you and your fiancé!!

:dance: :D :dance: :D :dance:
Kirsten LNot TellingFrance2006-08-29 18:09:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresNOA 2 finally received
WONDERFUL!!!

I'm so delighted for you. May the next steps occur without incident!!

:dance: :D :dance: :D :dance:
Kirsten LNot TellingFrance2006-08-28 13:05:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresChalk another NOA2 Approval up from CSC
Great news!! How wonderful for you both!!! Congratulations!!!

:dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance:

May the rest of your journey be speedy. May you soon be reunited permanently.
Kirsten LNot TellingFrance2006-08-29 21:57:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresI HAVE MY FIANCEE VISUM..........YIEHAAAA
Congratulations. :)
Kirsten LNot TellingFrance2006-08-28 17:49:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresGot to work this morning and THIS is what I saw...
Congratulations on a fast approval. May the next steps of your journey be as swift. :)
Kirsten LNot TellingFrance2006-08-29 07:18:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresWe have our interview date!!!
FANTASTIC!! May it go off without a hitch! Keep us posted!!

:dance: :D :dance: :D :dance:
Kirsten LNot TellingFrance2006-08-30 07:18:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresOver 140 days & Congressional Inquiry/Media

but the signatures of people who have not been waiting 6 months will do nothing. you could start a "we've been waiting 3 months petition" ?


Not even vaguely true. It's simple accountability and proper management we want...and that has to do with ALL of us...old and new filers alike. So all voices will matter equally. If it's a congressional inquiry we want, the only thing that matters is that American citizens are concerned and want answers. Believe me, as someone who's done a little unofficial lobbying for various causes, that's all it takes is a mass of people who want answers to effect the necessary pressure.
Kirsten LNot TellingFrance2006-08-29 18:13:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresCSC APPROVAL!!!!
Hallelujah! What wonderful news! Another approval out of the CSC! Bask in the moment. May the next steps on your journey be quick and infinitely blessed.

:D :D :D :D :D :D
Kirsten LNot TellingFrance2006-08-30 23:37:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresHAHAHAHA YAY HOLY TAMALE WE GOT APPROVED TODAAAYYY IN 12 JUST DAYS YAY! YIPPEE SKIPPY!!!!!!!!!

Yabaa Dabaa Doooooooo!!!!! We are sooo happy! :thumbs: :star: :D (F) :dance:


Piss off, Postie...You really expect me to believe this? Whatever. <_<
Kirsten LNot TellingFrance2006-08-30 22:49:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresMarch 6th NSC, approved in CSC August 30th

After some ridiculous waiting and transferring and IMBRA business, we were finally approved after nearly 6 months.

thanks for the support.


Wonderful, wonderful news! Congratulations to you both!!! Best wishes for the steps that lie ahead...

:D :dance: :D :dance: :D :dance: :D
Kirsten LNot TellingFrance2006-08-30 23:44:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresVSC Approval
Congratulations on a speedy approval! May the rest of the journey be just as quick and painless for you both.

:dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance:
Kirsten LNot TellingFrance2006-08-30 23:41:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresdoing the happy dance
WooHOOO! Congratulations! Bask in the moment. Good luck with the steps ahead.

:thumbs: :dance: :D
Kirsten LNot TellingFrance2006-08-28 17:50:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresFINALLY NOA1....now what?
Congratulations on your NOA1 receipt, Peil. Every step is a little closer...

:D :thumbs: :D
Kirsten LNot TellingFrance2006-08-30 23:42:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresApproved! ....but no USCIS website status change
WUNDERBAR!!! Good luck with the next steps. Big congratulations on the conclusion of this one!!!

:dance: :D :dance: :D :dance:
Kirsten LNot TellingFrance2006-08-30 22:52:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresNOA1 received.
Congratulations on the first official step of the journey. May you travel the road ahead with speed and ease.

:D :D :D :D :D :D
Kirsten LNot TellingFrance2006-08-31 18:33:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresFormal call for immigration reform...


4. lack of information during the process, and particularly upon inquiry (I'd like to use letters like yours and kitkat's if you guys approve since I don't have such a letter of my own to show. They'll demonstrate poor accountability and customer service failures)


Rock on Kirsten. I am all out of fight but I also applaud your efforts. Feel free to use the stupid email response my senator got from CSC!


Fantastic, kitkat!! I appreciate your willingness to let us use that crappy, f#&%ing response you got the other day! It'll speak volumes. BELIEVE ME!!! Hang in there. We're on the case. But if you find even the tiniest bit of energy, we'd love your articulate help. And I do think you're articulate!! :D

Fantastic. Sounds right to me. Yes, feel free to use my letter. I'll start the process of contacting news media next week. I have a lot of things going on right now... including an entirely separate plan to take over the world.


Well hell, Onyxrev...I bet when you're king of the world, the USCIS will run very, very smoothly. ;) :lol:

Edited by Kirsten L, 31 August 2006 - 08:54 PM.

Kirsten LNot TellingFrance2006-08-31 20:53:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresFormal call for immigration reform...

Kirsten -

Sounds good! My fiancee, Sheryl, recommended we get our facts straight and coordinated before we start making headlines.

Some of the information I plan on using includes...

http://www.visajourn...showtopic=29389
http://www.visajourn...showtopic=29005

And this response to my Congressional office's inquiry...

The I-129F petitions that were subjected to the IMBRA request for evidence are being worked as the responses were received. Each petition is unique and therefore, worked on a case by case basis. The response for Mr. Dan Connor’s petition was received on 7/10/2006 and it has been placed in line for processing.


Congressional Liaison

California Service Center, Congressional Unit


Maybe you can post some of the information you plan on providing?


Onyxrev,

Fantastic! Me, I plan to pursue the following points in my correspondence, depending who I'm writing to and what issues might matter most to them:

1. incredibly uneven workload between the VSC and the USC (mismanagement)
2. radical differences in average processing times between the two (result of mismanagement)
3. randomness of approvals at CSC
4. lack of information during the process, and particularly upon inquiry (I'd like to use letters like yours and kitkat's if you guys approve since I don't have such a letter of my own to show. They'll demonstrate poor accountability and customer service failures)
5. official processing dates moving backwards in order to eliminate phone calls (poor management/customer service strategy)
6. inefficiency of processing proceedures (poor allocation of resources)

I'd like to use basically the same documents you plan on using. Someone did a bar graph with similar statistics to tjv2000's. I have to go back and dig to find it. I'll get back to you, though maybe you already know what I'm talking about. That visual--or a similar one--could be really really helpful. A picture is worth a thousand words. It's absorbed more quickly. It creates an interest that straight numbers usually don't.

We also ought to create a list of "talking points" for people who want to get on board with you, tjv2000, and me. The easier we make it for our colleagues to write emails and letters, the more likely they'll actually follow through with their enthusiasm. I'm not saying we should write the emails for them. Absolutely not! Each person's correspondence needs to be their own or we'll lose an element of grassroots authenticity that I believe will benefit us. I'm just saying let's create resources for people. Sound right...?
Kirsten LNot TellingFrance2006-08-31 19:11:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresFormal call for immigration reform...

More power to you Kirsten!

I'm a realist as well and don't believe we'll make much of a dent because our numbers are too small, but I certainly applaud your efforts and encourage this "fight the power" attitude.

Wish you the best of luck!

What I'd love to see done first is the balancing out of CSC approval timeframe vs. VSC approval timeframe.

As it stands now, it's just ridiculous. I pay the same $170 as the petitioners going through VSC. Why should they get theirs approved in 30 days and I get mine in 120+ days?


SirLancelot,

If you're a realist, then you do indeed know that the more people who climb on board with this effort, the more chance it has of succeeding. The first thing on your wishlist is the first thing on mine, as well. JOIN US! Your namesake was a champion of the defenseless. Take up your sword. Fight the good fight. Don't wait for others to do your work for you. Come! Let us work together!!
Kirsten LNot TellingFrance2006-08-31 07:30:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresFormal call for immigration reform...

I've been debating whether or not to join this discussion, and I've decided to keep my mouth shut, other than to say -- Kirsten, I appreciate your enthusiasm and willingness to try and change things. At the same time, you may do well to carefully consider what immigration veterans such as meauxna have to say about the process, without casually dismissing them as "without will for change" or "passive".

Good luck with your efforts.


Noted. And I believe I did say that I understood Meauxna's position but didn't agree with it. I wasn't dismissive. I just see things differently and wanted to make that clear. I very much understand and empathize with what others before me must have faced and endured. I am, moreover, completely willing to acknowledge fully what they have already tried. I am simply not willing to concede defeat in the face of previous failure. That is another matter indeed. How many times did Thomas Alva Edison fail before he finally discovered the secret of making a light bulb that would stay lit for a long, long time? MANY. But he finally TRIUMPHED. The odds were ALL against Lincoln when he ran for president. But he WON. How LONG did suffragettes wage public and private battles in this country before they finally achieved success? But women now have THE VOTE...All of these people faced laughter, scorn, and discouragement...and yet they kept going until they stood on top of the mountain.

Maybe I won't get to the top of the mountain. Maybe you're right. But I'm sure going to give it all I've got to get there and at least make better footholds for those who come after me on the climb up. Again, what anyone else chooses to do or not do is up to them.

Edited by Kirsten L, 31 August 2006 - 12:30 AM.

Kirsten LNot TellingFrance2006-08-31 00:29:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresFormal call for immigration reform...

I really fail to see why people think that just because something is status-quo and has been so for all eternity that this is the way things have to be in the future.


AMEN, BROTHER!!! :thumbs:

Sure, it makes sense that the task of running a government agency that deals with this sort of task would be complex and misunderstood.

The solution isn't very different from a set of project management tools that some of my friends and I are designing.

I've never seen the work flow in USCIS first hand, but, bear with me for a moment while I give an example of the framework I would establish if I were given the task of creating a work flow...

A petition is received in the mail room. It is opened, placed in a folder, and immediately passed to a processing room. In this room is a row of really snazzy copy machines (we have machines with this functionality in my corporation's office). These copy machines can take a stack of paper of any size, work through the stack unsupervised, digitizing the material. The machine then stores the data on a network drive with its own folder and metadata indicating that the status of the document is 'in between processing and adjucation'. The processing room gathers the documents and files them in a vault for safekeeping. A USCIS agent logs onto their computer, grabs the digitized petition in the cue, and opens it up. As they look over the documents they can highlight areas that are of concern. A list of requirements for the particular petition type can be checked and unchecked corresponding to whether the submitted petition meets the requirements. Areas of concern of the digitized document can be highlighted and notes can be typed in the highlighted space. The officer can do whatever work they deem necessary on that one window. On their desktop are groups of status folders such as 'waiting for RFE', 'waiting for background check', 'ready to go', etc. etc. When the officer has finished the session, they simply drag the document into the appropriate folder. At the end of the night a system wide, automated script scans all the documents in the system for changes. It notes that the document was taken from the cue and is being worked on by an officer. It notes that regions of the forms were highlighted and takes snapshots of those regions in question. It notes what is missing and what is present and what the current status of the petition was at the end of the night. It then updates the petitioner's account so that the petitioner can log in, see their digitized petition, see what is missing and what is present, exactly where in the process they are, etc. In the petitioner's information window there is a timeline showing them exactly what stage of the process they are in (mail room, processing room, officer, mail room, in the mail to NVC, NVC mail room, NVC officer, en route to consulate).

The digital media can be backed up. No more losing documents... you've always got the hard copies in the vault and the digital copies are available in the back up medium. As soon as a flag is raised for an RFE the petitioner can submit their document in a secure browser, which is then converted to the right format and added to the petition information. When the officer logs in the next day he or she is alerted that a petition has been updated with additional information and they continue their work.

This process would be simple to implement, from a technical perspective. And there are, increasingly, functional and free or very cheap Internet connections everywhere, including at libraries. And one could always submit forms via mail as a last resort and have them digitized at USCIS...

But do you see the potential in just this one area? There's so much less footwork involved. This is one instance where computers are not an evil to be avoided...


Exactly. BRAVO, my friend!! You and I are so on the same page! :thumbs:

Onyxrev, are you down with the thread that was started this evening about bombarding the media with our concerns? Let's jump on that bandwagon together and get ourselves a forum to discuss some of this stuff where true pressure can be applied to institute the kinds of changes that would make a difference. I'm so with you, my friend. Let's go for it... :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes:

Meauxna, as for your latest comments...While I understand and appreciate your stance, I simply can't agree. Systems can change...and they do when and where the human will is strong enough to change them. Passivity is not productive. Tolerance of the status quo would have kept us from getting to the moon, from exploring the uncharted oceans, from finding cures for all kinds of diseases that used to kill, and a thousand other amazing and once unbelievable things. Had the intrepid individuals who made those advances had instead simply sat back, kicked their feet up, and said, "Better accept it. We can't do that. Nope, it's always going to be exactly the way it is now. Best not to dream of anything too grandiose. That's just wasted energy and foolishness." --well, I'll drop my thought there since I'm guessing you see my point.

Me, I'm a visionary. Always have been. And I'm not ashamed to admit it. I believe things can be better. And I want to be a torch-bearer for positive change. If you want to stand on the sidelines, that is indeed your choice. But I hope you'll at least be cheering forward those of us who see things differently...those of us with a will to bring about a better day.
Kirsten LNot TellingFrance2006-08-30 23:28:00