Forum	Title	Content	Member	Sex	Country	Date/Time
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	I-129F filed, rejection notice given two weeks later. Decided to scrap USA plans for now and live in UK next few years instead	Christi, thank you much for the information. I have done much research on the matter and know the implications of finding work before EEA2 is processed and returned to me. The downside is that nowadays it might take longer than what you said, up to 6-8 months, which is why I am getting an EEA Family Permit to work for the time being. Did your husband have difficulty finding work on an EEA Family Permit?? I ask because this Permit allows a 6 months right to work and is extended beyond 6 months as long as the EEA2 is processing. So in other words, there is never going to be a time I will be out there when I will be legally unable to work. I have my finger's crossed that I will be given a teaching position at the school I taught at from 2008-2010. But if not, I willy supply teach for the time being. Really hoping I don't run into any problems finding work.. About the EEA National, we don't have to worry about any of that since my fiance isn't a student or self-employed, but has a secure job within a company she's been working with for over five years. Many thanks to you all for the help! You are right about processing times for the EEA2, but if your case is straightforward (and it looks like it is) then it shouldn't take longer than 4-5 months by current standards. My husband got his exactly 4.5 months after he applied, but the issuance date on the RC was actually a month back (so it was issued 3.5 months after the application). Don't know why it took them so long to mail it out.. Husband didn't switch from a Family Permit (he never had one). He first came to the UK as a postgrad student and then applied for and got a Tier 1 Post-Study Work visa. So when he applied for the EEA2 he was a couple months before the expiration of his PSW visa. He did have some problems with employers back when his PSW application was pending and he was legally allowed to work on his un-expired student visa (by law, he could work full-time as long as he was done with his classes), but employers didn't seem to like/fully believe that. Quite a few told him he did well at the interview but they couldn't proceed until he had the visa in hand, and on one occasion they even cancelled his interview when they found out about his visa status and told him to call them back when he had his visa. After he got the PSW visa, he got a job offer within weeks, but he'd been looking/talking to many employers in the preceding months, so he had the leads lined up. I've heard from other people that it can be equally tricky with the EEA Family Permit/EEA2 with some employers. BUT if you already have some good leads (plus the fact that you're a teacher and teachers are always in demand here!) you shouldn't have a problem. It also depends on the field of work, I guess. Teaching is a field that always needs people, it seems. Hope your school is happy to hire you back Good luck again!	Christi85	Female	Greece	2011-01-30 12:26:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	I-129F filed, rejection notice given two weeks later. Decided to scrap USA plans for now and live in UK next few years instead	Good luck with your move and your plans. As I'm not a UK citizen myself (but an EEA national), we went through the same EEA-family member process to extend my husband's (USC) stay in the UK until we were ready to go through the US immigration journey, which is where we ultimately wanted to be. Just to warn you to be prepared for a long-ish wait to be granted the actual 5-year Residence Card (average waiting time is currently 4-5 months from applying) during which your passport is with them. The good news is that you can request your passport back if you're planning to travel and they will send it back, so not much hassle here. Also, be warned that, although you get sent a letter within a month of your application which states that you can live and work in the UK until your application is decided, many employers don't find this enough evidence (and are also completely unaware of the laws) and refuse to hire you until you actually have the Residence Permit in hand. My husband was lucky as he already had a job from when he was still on his previous visa, and nobody in his company ever questioned how he was extending his legal stay etc. although he was prepared to show them the letter (I think they completely forgot ). A final point to take into account is that the Residence Card is not granted to family members of EEA nationals in general, but to the family members of EEA nationals who are exercising Treaty Rights in the foreign member-state they apply to (in your case, the UK). In practical terms this means that one of the following should be true: -the EEA national must be employed in the UK -the EEA national must be self-employed in the UK -the EEA national must be a student in the UK -the EEA national must be living in the UK as a self-sustained person (i.e. through no recourse to public funds) In addition to proof of the above, if the EEA national sponsoring their family member falls in the latter two categories (i.e. not in an employed/self-employed status), they also have to prove that they have comprehensive health insurance covering them and their family members. Important note here: NHS coverage alone is NOT considered comprehensive coverage for people who don't work/contribute taxes to the UK government for the purposes of the Residence Card application, and lots of cases have been rejected due to that "little detail". That means that if the EEA national falls into any of the latter two categories, they are obliged to purchase private health insurance in order for their family member to be deemed eligible for the Residence Card. Just some food for thought, in order for you to be prepared for what lies ahead. Again, good luck with your plans!	Christi85	Female	Greece	2011-01-30 05:41:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	K1 denied---please help	Worse comes to worse, you should seek a lawyer that has a network of lawyers. That can cost $$, but it will help with legal advise.	Dr Mirage	Male	Philippines	2010-10-20 23:40:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	can i have the wedding ceremony before my fiance enter into us?	I agree with Mathilda. You should have no problem having the ceremony in Indonesia as long as you are not registered in that country as a married couple. A lot of people have "wedding parties" in a different country, and later register at the US court. This way, both side's relatives witness how "two become one" =) Other than pictures, you would not have any proof of your marriage, which is not enough for the US officials. As long as you did not sign any papers or get stamped anywhere, you guys should be fine. (but that's just my opinion..)	Adilet&Venera	Female	Kyrgyzstan	2011-01-05 16:56:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	E-mail USCIS	here are all the email addresses you can use for all Service centers http://www.uscis.gov...000b92ca60aRCRD	Adilet&Venera	Female	Kyrgyzstan	2011-01-12 15:11:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	How long apart?	I'm in a similar situation. My fiancee doesn't have internet so she has to go to the net cafe for us to Skype, and this can be very inconvenient with our schedules. I do text her everyday though, and we talk about four times a week. It would be so nice if she had internet, but I just think, a few decades ago there would have been no way for me to communicate with her in Kyrgyzstan at all. I miss her all the time though. I miss him too.. Although I just came from Kyrgyzstan (we had a wedding ceremony, but we are not legally married yet), I can't wait to see him again! I can't wait for the day when I see him at the airport *DREAMINGLY*. Every morning when I wake up, I tell myself "I am one day closer to seeing my love!" I am so hoping he would be here by April (keeping my fingers crossed). Hang in there, guys. I heard that this process used to take at least a year. And some couples right now don't even get approved by the end of their K-1 visa journey because the person at the embassy did not believe the relationship was genuine (how absurd!). We have to believe that our case will go smoothly, and at the end, we will be with our loved ones for the rest of our lives. That's all that should matter now. I know it's hard to wait this long.. but we have to be strong! I am happy to learn that we are not alone. We are all going through the same stages, and we'll get through this. A year from now, we will be talking about our marriage lives, and how wonderful it is! =) I wish you all the best of luck and fast approval!	Adilet&Venera	Female	Kyrgyzstan	2011-01-14 13:24:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	How long apart?	We only text each other in the mornings and evenings (other times, either I am asleep or he is..) Occasionally, we call each other.. does this mean I don't have strong feelings for him? I LOVE him a LOT, it's just I don't know what to talk about with him on a daily basis (through skype, for instance - although, he doesn't have internet at home, so he would have to go to the nearest internet club)? We know what each of us doing by means of text messaging.	Adilet&Venera	Female	Kyrgyzstan	2011-01-13 20:35:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	I-129 F petition approved!	That is wonderful news!!! Congratulations! I hope I too one day go through what you just went through =)	Adilet&Venera	Female	Kyrgyzstan	2011-01-25 20:36:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	UGH!!! Didn't send original :(	When you get a hard copy of your NOA1, you should mail back the copy of it on the top of your original G-325A. Don't worry. It's not a big deal =) You still have 4-5 months to send all the necessary information if you remember that you forgot something else along the way. Always make sure to include a copy of your NOA1 so that they can match up your documents to the original package.	Adilet&Venera	Female	Kyrgyzstan	2011-02-03 21:24:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	10 DAYS & STILL NO NOA1	I have almost the same timeline you have, and also still waiting for NOA1. However, they've just cashed my check yesterday so I'm hoping.. hopefully.. that within this week we will receive the hardcopy. Cheers.	Glenn n Bryan	Male	Philippines	2010-07-21 08:37:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	What is the Number for California Service Center?	Thank you Tom and Cathey for your input and reply. I just finished speaking with them over the phone and they have been most helpful. The person was pretty accommodating and answered all my questions. Tom was right and that I am still within the processing time for the application. All I really wanted was any kind of information or update coming straight from them... just in case there was any problem or information that may not have been relayed via USCIS website, text, or email. Waiting a little bit longer is inevitable but I'm glad I made the call. Probably will give them a call back in 3 weeks. lol Thank you all again for replies and Good Luck to us All!	Glenn n Bryan	Male	Philippines	2010-09-27 14:33:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	What is the Number for California Service Center?	1800-375-5283 Please be forewarned that they may tell you to call back when your case is outside of the normal processing time of 5months at this point and time....GOOD LUCK I thank you for the info and reply, however, I have tried the same number and all it gave me was a run around by an automatic voice machine. Is there a way or loophole to go through the automated machine and talk to a live person? Thanks	Glenn n Bryan	Male	Philippines	2010-09-27 13:44:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	What is the Number for California Service Center?	We have received our NOA1 and currently waiting for our NOA2. I know that our wait may not be as long as the other applicants, but I still would like to call a live person from California Service Center or the correct Agency to follow up on case? It would not hurt to ask them, all I would like to do is ask for an update. Does anybody know on how I may be able to achieve this task? Thank you and God Bless. Edited by Bryenna, 27 September 2010 - 01:29 PM.	Glenn n Bryan	Male	Philippines	2010-09-27 13:28:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Help for Packet 3	Congratulations!!!	Glenn n Bryan	Male	Philippines	2010-12-09 12:32:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	NOA2 Finally Approved!	August Filers are next up... a little more wait and NOA2 will be there knocking on your door. Now here's another question for the experts. How does one ask for an appointment interview after paying all the necessary fees. I read some posts that we contact the US Embassy in Manila and ask for an appointment, and then there are other suggestions that we do it online? Which is the correct method? Please assist. All help is welcome. Cheers,	Glenn n Bryan	Male	Philippines	2010-12-09 20:01:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	NOA2 Finally Approved!	Thanks for the info, its going to be handy knowing now we finally got the NOA2 Good Luck Mal and Meg. Hope the process goes well and fast for you. The forum is indeed a treasure trove of informations. I just called NVC and they told me that they have forwarded my documents to Manila Embassy. I've got the MNL case number so I'm still trying to find out what to do next? Everyday seems to be like Christmas from this moment on. lol. The next step is to set up a medical exam for my fiancee. I need to read and ask guidance to anyone who had gone through their medical exams already. Cheers!	Glenn n Bryan	Male	Philippines	2010-12-08 14:40:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	NOA2 Finally Approved!	Congratulations! Thank you Nikki	Glenn n Bryan	Male	Philippines	2010-12-07 17:31:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	NOA2 Finally Approved!	Here's a quick question for those who have taken their medical exam already at St. Luke's Medical Center in Manila. Can my fiancee take her medical exam with only our NOA2, passport, and passport picture on hand? We haven't receive a notice yet that our file has been forwarded to the US Embassy in Manila, so I was just wondering if we can take only those requirements to the medical exam? Cheers, Bryan	Glenn n Bryan	Male	Philippines	2010-12-07 15:31:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	NOA2 Finally Approved!	congratulations on the approval! next thing to do is start preparing the docs that your fiancee will need to received from your end and your fiancee should do the same for the docs she will need to apply for her K1 visa . check out the "what to send" part here http://www.visajourney.com/content/k1guide check out the NVC.gov website as well if for updates on forms/fees etc in the meantime, your papers will be sent to the USEM in manila (about 2wks) after which they will send your fiancee a letter saying that she can already apply for a visa which will require doing two things, setting up an interview appt and having a medical done. for the interview, she'll be paying fees and filling out forms (under "forms" on the homepage) and to go with the forms are required documents which she should also prepare now (i.e. NBI, police clearance, passport cenomar, etc) if you think you'll have all th requirements ready at a certain date/time frame, you can call the USEM hotline and get a schedule for an interview. whatever date you get, your fiance should then go for her medical (there's also a guide here for that) at least two weeks before the interview so that the results can be forwarded to the embassy and evaluated during her actual interview. good luck and god bless! Thank you so much Zen Den for the detailed instruction. This will definitely help us out in the next stage of our application. Once I call the NVC and verified that packet has been forwarded to Manila Embassy, should I set up an appointment at St. Lukes Medical first or for the VISA interview? This step of the process is still kinda vague to me. Again, I appreciate every much of your help. Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!. Cheers, Bryenna	Glenn n Bryan	Male	Philippines	2010-12-05 15:35:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	NOA2 Finally Approved!	Hi guys. I just want to share the relief that we finally got our NOA2. It has been a long wait. So I am asking for any good advise and friendly suggestion as to what to do next after NOA2? Are there things that I can do to prepare earlier so that the rest of the process will be smoothn and quicker? This forum and site has been a treasure of information. Thank you to all who contributed and shared their experiences to help those that are in need of guidance. Good luck to us all. Cheers, Bryenna	Glenn n Bryan	Male	Philippines	2010-12-04 20:56:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	ORIGINAL vs PHOTOCOPY	thanks Glenn n Bryan! i did copy paste ur response to my fience's ym lol btw, were u able to schedule an interview? Yas we haven't been able to schedule our interview yet.	Glenn n Bryan	Male	Philippines	2010-12-14 23:18:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	ORIGINAL vs PHOTOCOPY	Yas. I just recently sent copies of all the document to my fiancee. Just for peace of mind, I made sure I made 2-3 copies of all documents for back-up. If it happens to get lost in the mail, at least I can be sure that I got everything backed up. Photocopies are sufficient enough but for the divorce decree, make sure you bring a CERTIFIED copy. Make sure it has the appropriate stamp of the court/state and signature of the judge.	Glenn n Bryan	Male	Philippines	2010-12-13 13:12:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	SSN to get Married?	Hmmn... from reading this thread.. it seems like it varies from state to state.	Glenn n Bryan	Male	Philippines	2010-12-30 01:01:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	downloading appointment letter	Exactly right! In applying for K1 Visa normally you would not need the CEAC barcode number which you would find in the DS160 form..... I believe. From what I've read in this forum, I observed that some countries require the DS160 form, but for many it is not required. However, in your case you don't need it and follow YAS's instructions on where to navigate to schedule for an interview online. Good Luck. Cheers and Happy New Year. Edited by Glenn n Bryan, 31 December 2010 - 02:06 PM.	Glenn n Bryan	Male	Philippines	2010-12-31 14:04:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Visa Type & Procedure	The previous posts is true. First, both parties MUST be free to marry. Your fiancee in the Philippines must annul her marriage to her ex-husband officially. It is a struggle to annul a marriage in the Philippines because it is not very common there, however, there is a way! I've read many cases here in Visa Journey of which many were able to accomplish everything with what you are doing right now. It may not be quick as you would like it to be, but in the end, you'll be together. Good Luck and Happy New Year!	Glenn n Bryan	Male	Philippines	2010-12-31 14:33:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	will try to contact congressman..	thanks for the advice.. are they gonna entertain our concern about k1 processing? do we need to wait for our 5months mark to do the follow up? thank you very much They may entertain your concern. However, if they try to contact USCIS and you are still within the normal 5 months time frame, they may tell them the same answer that you are going to get, which is you are still within the normal 5 months time frame. However, you can always try. Good Luck and Happy New Year.	Glenn n Bryan	Male	Philippines	2011-01-01 11:06:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Should I expect?	You would not want to expect too much of those time estimates. Just hang in there.	Glenn n Bryan	Male	Philippines	2011-01-01 15:22:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	please helpj	This is only my own opinion, but like everyone else in this thread I think it would behoove you to just burn bridges with him as if he never came into you life in the first place. It may be harder than actually just saying it, but the relationship is not healthy anymore. Good Luck and God Bless.	Glenn n Bryan	Male	Philippines	2011-01-01 15:18:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	No Case Status	It should not take long from now. Wait a few more days.	Glenn n Bryan	Male	Philippines	2011-01-01 10:59:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	SAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)	Hey guys, I looked thru this thread pretty deep but after 50 pages I gave up. How do you find out when the BKK Embassy received your K-1 packet from the National Visa Center? the NVC told me to call 0116622054000 but the lady (although very nice) did not know what I was talking about.	cdrrck24	Male	Thailand	2009-07-14 21:02:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Maiden name on old passport?	Is it absolutely necessary that she have ID ASAP in her married name? Is it not possible for you to book her ticket in her maiden name for the honeymoon? It is, after all, just a name on a ticket and doesn't reflect your commitment to each other. Hmmm.. just re-read your question more fully. The answer is: minimal, if you are willing to have her book her tickets in that name until she gets a new one. Eventually, I assume, she will get a driver's licence -- this can be in her new married name and can be used, at least domestically, for travel. I myself have my passport in my old name but haven't bothered to get a new one -- it's a hassle, and I travel internationally frequently so it's not a great choice to have it away for a while. My licence is in my new name and I use that wherever I can for ID. It's just a matter of patience, and being pragmatic here. When you say she needs another ID to change her passport, you can use the marriage certificate as proof of change. When the time comes that she feels she wants a new UK passport, have a look at this: http://www.britainus...e...001&a=25304 The fee is currently $265.	the maven	Female	United Kingdom	2008-05-03 09:01:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	How much relationship details did you include in your K1 petition?	QUOTE (Haole @ Sep 8 2008, 12:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Getting the original submission approval is easy. The main road block waiting for you is the embassy interview. There you will have to prove you have a SOLID ongoing relationship. The more communication evidence you have the better. Sign up with a international carrier that will give nyou good call records. Use it sparingly and Skype the rest of the time. Won't cost much and you'll have better records. Embassy interviews for MOST (and I use that word advisedly) people going through London do not require the visa applicant to show any proof of an ongoing relationship, bar an updated intent to marry letter. They don't want to see your photos, chat logs, phone records, etc etc ad nauseam. You show up, you bring the stuff on the checklist that comes in packet 3, answer a few easy questions, and if everything's in order that's it. I can't remember a single person going through London in the past 18 months being asked for a shred of relationship proof at the consulate stage. As Nich says above, most people do bring a little something just in case they are that special person who gets asked, but nobody does. If you want to get a new phone service, go for it, but don't do it because of the K1. NB: This advice is for London ONLY -- it has its own quirks and shouldn't be seen as applicable elsewhere!	the maven	Female	United Kingdom	2008-09-08 17:40:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	I might have to give up hope :(	QUOTE (tracymike @ Sep 11 2008, 02:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (KimandRuss @ Sep 5 2008, 08:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What about DCF in London if she's been there legally for 6 months??? You might want to look more into that option if it's possible. We looked into this. The London rule is that you must have your indefinite leave to remain, not only reside there legally for six months. This generally takes two years to obtain. No longer true -- the rules were changed last year. The USC must have at least limited leave to remain AND have resided in the UK for at least six months at the time of filing. Everything changed around the time of the Adam Walsh Act hoo-ha at the beginning of 2007. VWP won't cut it, however.	the maven	Female	United Kingdom	2008-09-11 23:26:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	I might have to give up hope :(	London certainly does allow self-sponsorship for the I-134, and certain VJ members have reported doing this successfully with quite low asset levels. English Muffin and Boiler spring to mind, and there have been others. The number is apparently a lot lower than you might think (although I don't know what the exact number is). If your fiance has some money in the bank, it may be worthwhile contacting the consulate about the possibility of self-sponsorship. You might also try posting in the UK forum about self-sponsorship to get further info.	the maven	Female	United Kingdom	2008-09-03 10:14:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	How to cancel approved K-1?	QUOTE (*julez* @ Oct 1 2008, 09:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I just love how you guys make selecting a Filipina sound like going to the best butcher to get the best cut of meat. I think I love you, julez. Filipina, American, British, German, whatever -- we are all women and should be judged individually on our character, not on our city or country of origin.	the maven	Female	United Kingdom	2008-10-01 17:33:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	divorce-potential redflag	It can be red flag even in low-fraud consulates -- I got asked for an affadavit by the London folks stating how and when my first marriage broke down, and when I met second husband in that continuum. I had gotten remarried 12 days after my divorce was finalised, but I had been separated from my ex for nearly 2 years at that point. Be ready to answer any questions on this, no matter which consulate you're going through.	the maven	Female	United Kingdom	2008-12-18 14:31:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	birth certificate question - UK fiance	QUOTE (pushbrk @ Jan 7 2009, 09:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (elmcitymaven @ Jan 7 2009, 08:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> But you know what? The issue is NOT about whether it was an original or a certified copy. The issue is that USCIS have repeatedly had issues recognising UK decree absolutes as being acceptable. Take it from me -- I was, until last year, a member of the Law Society of England and Wales -- even the very first decree absolute a newly divorced person receives is ONLY a certified copy as the decree absolute is pronounced in court and recorded centrally. It is only an extract, and it looks as official as if it were written on the back of a cocktail napkin. Every official copy received will look exactly the same. It is impossible to send an original of a decree absolute. So fine, yes, it is a copy and not an original. But most people who receive that very first copy think of it as being an original, as it was the original document they receive. There have been multiple postings in VJ about USCIS not accepting UK decree absolutes -- even with the special red stamp. It is a known problem amongst UK people. This is a UK issue and those of us who have gone through the hassle might know a smidge more about it. Honestly, why has this been sidetracked into a squabble about definitions? No one is trying to score points here. A quick read of post #1 in this thread will clear up the questions. The thread is about whether an "official copy" of a UK birth certificate would be an acceptable substitute for the original lost in a flood years ago. It is not about UK decree absolutes. I responded to an assertion that an official copy might not be enough because somebody wrote... "i dont know coz i recently got a RFE because of my decree absolute "Not being the original" Using the word "original" in place of any kind of "copy" is not a small error in word usage. It's like calling night, day or yes, no. In effect, the statement said, " I don't know if an official copy is good enough because my RFE asked for an original so I went and got a an official copy and submitted it in response?" The statement is gibberish. It's as meaninful as, "I had a miscarriage but the baby I miscarried is doing just fine." It still smacks of point-scoring. A reasoned response would have omitted the highly emotive "gibberish." Yes, the OP was confused about the abso-effing-lutely perfect terminology. A correction might have been offered in an effective way that wasn't demeaning. You know what? #### this. I have a husband, three jobs and a life. I am so sick of this #######, the petty oneupmanship and slapping of dicks on the table. I am outta VJ for a while. I'm banning myself before I say anything more.	the maven	Female	United Kingdom	2009-01-08 00:59:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	birth certificate question - UK fiance	But you know what? The issue is NOT about whether it was an original or a certified copy. The issue is that USCIS have repeatedly had issues recognising UK decree absolutes as being acceptable. Take it from me -- I was, until last year, a member of the Law Society of England and Wales -- even the very first decree absolute a newly divorced person receives is ONLY a certified copy as the decree absolute is pronounced in court and recorded centrally. It is only an extract, and it looks as official as if it were written on the back of a cocktail napkin. Every official copy received will look exactly the same. It is impossible to send an original of a decree absolute. So fine, yes, it is a copy and not an original. But most people who receive that very first copy think of it as being an original, as it was the original document they receive. There have been multiple postings in VJ about USCIS not accepting UK decree absolutes -- even with the special red stamp. It is a known problem amongst UK people. This is a UK issue and those of us who have gone through the hassle might know a smidge more about it. Honestly, why has this been sidetracked into a squabble about definitions? No one is trying to score points here.	the maven	Female	United Kingdom	2009-01-07 23:52:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	PLEASE HELP US! K-1 QUESTIONS	QUOTE (English Muffin @ Feb 2 2009, 01:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (elmcitymaven @ Feb 2 2009, 04:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well he is a lying liar, but he's MY lying liar! I just hope and your husband can live with yourselves Maven. You obviously don't have as much integrity as other people who post on here. We are living in amoral bliss here in Burbank.	the maven	Female	United Kingdom	2009-02-02 17:00:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	PLEASE HELP US! K-1 QUESTIONS	Well he is a lying liar, but he's MY lying liar!	the maven	Female	United Kingdom	2009-02-02 16:13:00