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Waiting to file I-864 with 2006 taxes

Hi,

She is not eligable for a ssn until she arrives in the us...thats the whole purpose behind the ITIN. You can email the w-7 and the 1040 to her have her sign the forms and send them to you...couple of weeks at best...we just did this....then you dont wait until the itin is issued...you send the w-7 along with your 1040 and the IRS does the rest. You should call the IRS back and ask to speak to someone in advanced tax law...don't know who you spoke to but that info is wrong...can't believe he actually said you couldnt file for an itin....lol...the whole purpose of that is because she doesnt have a ssn yet.

Jazzy

OK, looks like I will just file an extension and wait until she gets here. By the time I send her the forms for the ITIN, I get them back, the IRS generates the ITIN, I send Kathlene a copy of the tax form for her to sign, she mails it back to me, it is looking a LOT like summertime!

Hey, maybe when she DOES get her and I file then, we can use the refund for a short honeymoon!

BTW, the IRS guy said I COULDN'T file for an ITIN since she was getting a SSN when she arrives here in the US, so he was wrong pretty much all the way around!

jazzy

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Philippines

2007-01-26 05:21:00

Waiting to file I-864 with 2006 taxes

Hi,

In order for you to file as married you must submit a w-7 (form for obtaining a ITIN number) for your wife with your return.....she must sign the w-7 form and the tax return....i just went through this with the irs, tought i would pass it along to you.

Jazzy

Since I will be getting all my W-2s and 1099s next week I am going to go ahead and wait to file the I-864. 2006 will be my first full year as a salaried employee, so I will have a MUCH higher adjusted income then the past few years when I have been filing as self-employed on all my income. (my main company I have been contracting with put me on the payroll in late 2005) The IRS told me I can file as married filing separately now, then when Kathlene gets her SSN I can file an amended return.

jazzy

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Philippines

2007-01-25 19:28:00

I-864 Signed by a Notary

Hi,

You do not notarize the I-864!!!

Jazzy

As I understood it, no notary is required if it's you completing the forms based on your income. In our case we needed a joint sponsor so we had that notarized.
Everyone's free to their opinion. My main recommendation was that if you have questions on this sort of thing, ask the people who should certainly know (the NVC).
Best of Luck

jazzy

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Philippines

2007-01-25 19:31:00

Does the notary stamp and sign at the signature line?

Hi,

The I-864 does not get notarized!!

Jazzy

Sorry I thought I indicated in the OP

I am refering to the I-864.

jazzy

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Philippines

2007-01-25 16:02:00

I-130 question C.17 help please

Hi,

Yes...just your name should be there...not your wife's. The question is asking for the husban/wife and children of the benificiary.

Jazzy

For question C17 on the I-130 form, where it asks "list husband/wife and all children of your relative", what should I write? I am the petitioner, my wife is the beneficiary. We do not have any children.

Should my name be included on the list since I am her husband?

Should my wife's name be listed as she is my wife?

Should I just write N/A?

Thank you!

jazzy

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Philippines

2007-02-04 07:58:00

erasure

Hi,

If you make a mistake on a form a simple line through the mistake is what you need to do. Then write the correct response next to it, or, you can fill out a new form...downloaded copies are fine.

Jazzy

thanks for the suggestion fak..anyone here has experience the same problem? what 's the best and legal/acceptable way in dealing with erasure??

jazzy

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Philippines

2007-02-07 19:20:00

color copies..?

Hi,
Not a dumb question at all. In my opinion color copies woud be prefered...we sent all color copies...with a good color copy you can see more detail and less question as to it authenticity. Color copies are fine!!

Jazzy

hi all,
might be a dummmm question..but is it okay to send a color copy of your documents..? ie. passport, citizenship certificate etc..I m filing for I129 and have extra color copies..just wondering if USCIS will mind color copies..?? any thought..? thanks..

jazzy

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Philippines

2007-02-11 18:31:00

DS230 STUPID QUESTION??

Hi,

Robee....don't put IR-1....just stay with CR-1 on the papers. Since the 2 year mark has not been reached yet you are still filing for CR-1 not IR-1. They will change it automaticly if they feel the date is close enough. Oh..by the way....nice anniversary date (june 5)...thats my birthday...

Jazzy

I will be cutting it close on the 2 year mark. If I generate the coversheet (james shortcuts) with a IR1 code rather than a CR1 code will I create a problem? I am hoping that if my wife gets here before the 2 year mark (a month early)she still gets the 10 year green card.

thoughts?

jazzy

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Philippines

2007-02-17 06:10:00

DS-230

Hi,

Yes you must submit all the supporting documents!! In your ds-230 packet you should full instructions as to what they are requesting for the Philippines. You must submit ORIGINALS or certified copies, except for the passport bio page (a copy is all thats needed). Your spouse must sign the ds-230 part 1 (do not sign part 2). The embassy will return all original documents at the interview.

Jazzy

Heya all. I recently got the DS-230 packet from NVC. Do we now have to submit all the supporting docs (NBI, Police Record, Marriage Cert etc) with it back to NVC? I think thats a rcent change?

Orimai

jazzy

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Philippines

2007-02-21 16:53:00

K3 vs CR1

Hi,

K-3's are scheduled by the embassy and are longer than month when scheduled. Cr-1's are scheduled by the NVC....once the interview is scheduled its usually 5 to 6 weeks, at least thats been the trend. Once you've been approved by the nvc you are put in the quue for an interview, its been aout 8 to 10 weeks from the time of approval till nterview scheduling.

Jazzy

I'm sure someone will sigh when reading this, but the flowcharts and numbers really are confusing to us. We know that the K3 visa interview (once scheduled) is pretty short, maybe a month. What about CR1's? Are they the same wait period when scheduled as K3's? I didn't see any info (like the K3 flowchart) here nore at the embassy site in Manila. Again only non immigrant visa info. Any insight would be appreciated. Thanks!

Orimai

jazzy

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Philippines

2007-02-23 18:17:00

do u have to send a PHOTO also with DS230 application?

Hi,

If you have a child that is also being petitioned on a separate (cr-2) petition then you will type the childs name in 21a. If no one listed in #19 or #14(spouse) is accompanying you to the us when you leave then put (n/a).

Jazzy

THANKS SO MUCH.

Can you also tell me, what I need to fill in question 21a for DS230...

:-))

jazzy

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Philippines

2007-02-25 07:42:00

I-864's

Hi,

Orimai.....the ITR is an "Individual Tax Return"....this does NOT need to be certified or notorized...however if you are using a co-sponsor the co-sponsors needs to be notorized or certified. Co-sponsor can obtain a tax transcript from IRS or you can have any US norary notarize it.

Jazzy

jazzy

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Philippines

2007-03-03 07:10:00

email from NVC

Hi,

It means you have been "documentarily qualified" and will be put in the queue at the embassy for an interview. Call the NVC and talk to an operator to verify. You should be recieving a letter in the mail to same affect. It is taking approximately 8 to 10 weeks after thecase is concidered complete to get an interview scheduled...then approx. 5 to 6 weeks for actual interview. I mailed my ds-230 on oct. 2 and case complete was oct 17...so yes it doesnt take long.

Jazzy

Hi fellow vj members,
i just open my e mail today and im so surprised that I got letter from the NVC which says:
Dear Sir or Madam,
All documentation necessary to complete the National Visa Center's
processing has been received. As soon as an interview date has been
scheduled, the designated representative of this case (petitioner) will
be notified. The US Embassy may require additional documentation at the
time of the interview.
Regards,
National Visa Center
its only been less than 2 weeks (10 days to be specific) since the day they received my ds-230...My question is..does it mean my case is complete @ the NVC and anytime they gonna forward it to the US embassy in manila? this might be a stupid question and i may be skeptical but i dont want to put my hopes high. im expecting a message like Your case has been forwarded to the US embassy of your country or the likes.....or maybe something like Your documents have been reviewed and appoved.i called the NVC but the automated system is not updated yet.i will only be able to talk to an operator on monday..im confused.

does anyone of you got this kind of message?hope you guys can help me with this.

thanks so much

filipinawife

jazzy

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Philippines

2007-02-25 09:36:00

Manila Interview Help

Hello everyone! I would like to ask for help for those who have finished their visa interview already in Manila. I would just like to know the step by step process so that I could be really prepared. For example, what are the things they would ask for at the gate, at the first window, etc.

Any info would be greatly appreciated! My interview date is on the first week of April.

Also, if there was a thread about this, could you lead me to that link? Thank you so much everyone!

God bless all of you!

baldoako,

i'm not sure if you are in cr-1 route, first you need to present your valid i.d, then show your original appointment letter to the guard, get a priority number inside the embassy and get ready all original docs listed in your packet or go to foreign embassy and consular discussion (manila thread) you will learn a lot more info.

jasmin

jazzy

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Philippines

2007-03-23 04:13:00

I-485 withdrawn- is A-number still active?

HI,

Once you are assigned an A-number it is yours for life, you don't get a new one.

Jazzy

jazzy

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Philippines

2007-02-08 14:21:00

St. Lukes Medical Manila

Our medical for K3 went without a hitch and was completed in 2 days. We are hoping to get the CR1 next week at the K3 interview (if at all possible). We noticed they stamp K3 on the medical receipt and we were wondering if a 2nd medical is needed for the CR1 part? Are they even different in anyway?

hi Orimai,

For me its better to get the CR-1 visa. I think no second medical is needed its all the same shot and procedures base in my experienced.

good luck!

jasmin

jazzy

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Philippines

2007-05-10 05:57:00

wrecked when put on AR even i am an IR applicant

Hi everyone!

I just want to share the unexpected outcome of my interview this morning. I arrived at USEM around 430 am from Bayview Park Hotel. Everything went fine and the CO told me that my papers were organized and complete but they still need to verify some information in NSO regarding our status before we get married (if we have previous marriages) since we were both PINOY the time of our wedding coz my hubby wasn’t naturalize yet only last 2005 although he have been in the US for almost 15 years.

During my pre-screening (Filipino lady) only our pictures, emails, cards and snail mails were asked, I asked her if she needs to see my CENOMAR and my hubby’s 2006 ITR she said those are all fine…my money transfer receipts for the last 4 yrs were not even asked also the bank statement. Yeah, I pretty much covered everything that can served as a proof prior to our marriage but seems not enough knowing everything were organized and all originals and recent.

I feel wrecked after my moment wid the CO, I never expected it that I’ll be put on A/R. I answered all questions consistently & directly to the point with all my heart and gave some additional information like on the pictures (although it has captions already). Smiled even nerve wrecking. I don’t know where I came short. I saw some applicant weren’t even ready what to submit and present to them but end up having what they really wanted. I feel that my readings with all these visa things didn’t paid off …I still end up at the darker part of the journey. I was hoping to be reunited wid my honey in 2 weeks but I am disappointed. I strive harder but it didn’t work out. I insisted twice to present my CENOMAR to the Pre-screener and to the CO both refused to accept.

I am just wondering if I am just the only IR visa applicant here that went thru the same situation. Did I really screw up? How long am I going to be doomed?:roll:

I don’t wanna lose hope even I’ve been thru a lot of RFE’s (not our fault tho) coz I am almost there. Please..please enlighten me everyone. I don’t know when to cheer up now.

PS. They let me pay delbros and was given a paper wid “wait till u here from us” words. I brought a 3 kilos of proof but was't enough.

I am in total despair.

Just hang in there my friend. Be strong everything will be fine.. Thats life always uncertain. My prayers for you and for other people who is also taking this long journey..May God Bless us All.
P.S. Im pretty sure you will have your visa after the so called NSO checking thing..Cheer up!!! just put a little cup of patience...

Boo

hi,

just let your petitioner call manila embassy every other day about your case. i know you will be fine it won't take long. keep on praying and trust GOD. its hard to wait in "LIMBO" i know how you feel.....hang on!

jazzy

jazzy

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Philippines

2007-04-12 08:36:00

filipina from bacalod caught doing lewd cam show

hi...

that's degrading us being a filipina....well....hopefully she will realize that its not good and she is answerable of what she did in the eyes of her fiancee and in the eyes of GOD.

jazzy

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Philippines

2006-02-12 09:00:00

This case has been

CONGRATZ

BILL

Seems we have the same timeline and my case was APPROVED today also.....I share the excitement you are feeling and I am unable to work too!!!!!! YEAH!!!!!!

wow......congrats!!!...and GOD BLESS!

jazzy

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Philippines

2006-05-09 20:53:00

K1 VISA Approved!

wow...good for you...good luck!

jazzy

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Philippines

2006-05-12 01:12:00

Minor child of fiance

no need of asking permission if the father appreared unknown in BC. we have same questions before when we we're processing k-1.

jazzy

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2006-05-12 01:01:00

Minor child of fiance

Does anyone know if I need to file any seperate petition for the minor child of my fiance to travel to the U.S.along with her. Can someone give me factual information.

Thanks]

hi,

as i knew no need of fililing seperate petition for the child.

jazzy

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Philippines

2006-05-12 00:37:00

Lawyers

"using" a lawyer in any way can help to take some of the anxiety out of filling up forms and the whole process, if you feel comfortable doing yourself, then do so. There is a lot of help here on VJ to get you through it. We used a lawyer last year with the K-1 process, but in retrospect i feel i wasted my money, but thats just my feeling. This year we filed the I-130 and I-129f spouse...and i did it myself.

jazzy

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Philippines

2006-06-01 16:59:00

breaking up

Dear Everyone,

ty all for nice replies seems we hav had an overreaction and a misunderstanding. i am sorry everyone took time to post but it shows everyone out here cares and thats y we come here for support. Our wedding is still in the works again sorry for our overeaction. Hope you all understand. We believe we hav settled the problem.

Bob and Charlene

hi bob and charlene,

good to hear that!...well, trust and love is the most important in a relationship. take it easy and GOOD LUCK!

jazzy

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Philippines

2006-06-05 22:28:00

Few questions about K1

I have a few questions. For the G-325A form, do I need to have my fiancée sign and return the form or can I have her fax it over? Same goes for the letter of intent to marry, do I need to include an original signed document or would a faxed document work? I don't need any other documents from her during this part of the process right? What documents should I have her begin collecting for later on in the process? I'm a little overwhelmed with all the stuff I'm reading through about the process and the steps that need to be taken. Hopefully it’ll all go well.

Hello and welcome,

For the G-325a form your fiance must sign all 4 pages and date them...ORIGINAL signature is required...as well as for the letter of intent.

Jazzy

jazzy

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Philippines

2006-06-18 06:56:00

My approval Notice expired!

My approval notice expired on 11/24/06, but the interview is scheduled for January 16th!
What should I do?

To be safe, send an email asking them to ensure that they have extended the validity - not all consulates do it automatically and it's better to be safe.

HI,
Never heard of an embassy that doesn't, if there is an interview date already there is no need to call, its a waste of time.

jazzy

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Philippines

2007-01-05 05:19:00

My approval Notice expired!

My approval notice expired on 11/24/06, but the interview is scheduled for January 16th!
What should I do?

Hi,

Do nothing!...the embassy routinely extends the date...they know they are backed up....don't worry...go to your interview....good luck..

Jazzy

jazzy

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Philippines

2007-01-04 18:33:00

Hi PW, ok we are now ready to re-enter the list CR-1...NOA#2 date august 3, 2006....case number mnl2006729xxx. We should also have our k-3 number soon (i hope)...we just got the imbra rfe and mailed back on fri. so we should hear something soon.

Updated to congratulate danlet who was approved. Congrats

Legend:
OK - Visa approved
AR - Admin Review/Add'l Docs Required
ME - Military Expedite

Name-------------NOA2-----MNL REC’D--PACKET--INTERVIEW--MNL CASE#--STATUS

K1 LIST
Windchaser------08-29-05--09-27-05--07-25-06--09-01-06--2005-756xxx
djcess----------03-10-06--03-24-06--xx-xx-xx--08-09-06--2006-579xxx--OK
Rustyash--------03-07-06--03-29-06--06-08-96--08-09-06--2006-580xxx--OK
davidg----------04-20-06--05-13-06--xx-xx-xx--09-11-06--2006-625xxx
Audrey&Romy-----05-01-06--05-22-06--07-13-06--09-22-06--2006-635xxx
randyandrechie--05-01-06--06-05-06--07-13-06--09-20-06--2006-635xxx
mychelle--------05-03-06--05-31-06--07-06-06--09-14-06--2006-639xxx
danlet----------05-12-06--05-31-06--06-27-06--08-10-06--2006-xxxxxx--OK
Tomnjas---------05-23-06--06-14-06--07-11-06--09-28-06--2006-656xxx
sillygirl-------05-17-06--06-14-06--06-29-06--09-28-06--2006-657xxx
Brittaniquec----05-25-06--06-20-06--07-10-06--08-08-06--2006-660xxx--OK
kevlar_kev------06-30-06--07-18-06--07-27-06--10-05-06--2006-691xxx
YnaYeBa0808-----07-24-06--08-10-06--xx-xx-xx--xx-xx-xx--2006-712xxx
Uling-----------07-31-06--08-08-06--xx-xx-xx--xx-xx-xx--2006-712xxx

K3 LIST
sweety_33.......04-11-06--04-25-06--xx-xx-xx--08-24-06--2006-608xxx
phirephly-------05-08-06--05-23-06--07-01-06--09-21-06--2006-635xxx

IR-1/CR-1
jpg-------------08-15-05--xx-xx-xx--xx-xx-xx--07-17-06--2005-xxxxxx--OK
JoelAndAnalyn---12-29-05--xx-xx-xx--xx-xx-xx--09-25-06--2006-510xxx
Shortie81-------02-03-06--05-16-06--05-28-06--06-07-06--2006-544xxx--OK-ME
Biancashey------03-09-06--xx-xx-xx--xx-xx-xx--xx-xx-xx--2006-576xxx
phirephly-------05-02-06--xx-xx-xx--xx-xx-xx--xx-xx-xx--2006-642xxx

jazzy

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Philippines

2006-08-20 06:56:00

but my certificate of finality came from the office of solicitor general manila as what the heading cerficate indicates and my attorney told me also...anyway...goodluck!
Jazzy,

With all due respect to your lawyer, the OSG cannot issue a Certificate of Finality since it is not the one deciding the case. Only the court has the power to do that. As a matter of fact, the OSG is a party to the case as they represent the government (thru the City Prosecutor/Fiscal's Office) in all annulment cases.

I can only assume that what you have is a Certification from the OSG. "Procedures require that an Order be issued by the court directing the OSG to issue a Certification briefly stating its reasons for its agreement or its objection to the petition within 30 days from the receipt of the order. This is in accordance with the decided case of the Supreme Court, Rep. Vs. Molina GR No. 108763 Feb. 13, 1997." http://philsprocedure.blogspot.com/

"The court will then issue a Certificate of Finality to certify that a decision has already been rendered and is now final and executory. After which the Certificate of Finality together with the Decision, and a copy of the petition will be submitted to the Local Civil Registrar. Which in return the local civil registrar will issue a certificate with remarks of the nullity of the marriage." http://216.109.125.1...&icp=1&.intl=us

Make sure that your annulment is not "half-cooked".

I suggest for you to double check the above facts with your lawyer. This may just be a simple misunderstanding as legal jargons can be really confusing. Let me know what your lawyer says.

PW,

My wife was not understanding the papers correctly. You are correct and the papers are all in order....the finality came from regional trial court where the case was heard after the OSG's 15 days were up. The only paper we are waiting on is from the NSO to be sure it is registered with them...but everything seems to be completed properly as you have outlined above....

Todd

jazzy

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Philippines

2006-06-14 17:15:00

Hi Jazzy,

The Certificate of Finality is not issued by the Office of the Solicitor General (OSG) but is issued by the same court that granted the petition. What the court does is to wait 15 days from the date the decision is rendered to give the OSG time to file any opposition. If the OSG does not oppose within the time frame, the Finality is issued. The communication is internal between the court and OSG.

When I told the court clerk that I was going straight to the embassy to submit the decision, she told me not to waste my time because the embassy would still require me to submit the finality. She told me of similar cases before me wherein the embassy sent the ladies back to court to wait for the finality. I just took my chance that the embassy might not require it from me since I had a finality for the 1st annulment. I hope I get lucky

PW

hi,

but my certificate of finality came from the office of solicitor general manila as what the heading cerficate indicates and my attorney told me also...anyway...goodluck!

jazzy

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Philippines

2006-06-09 22:14:00

Hiya all,

I have the court decision in my hands now so off to the embassy I go this afternoon. I don't have a Certificate of Finality yet but I'll take my chance and submit the decision just the same. Who knows, out of pity for poor little me who's been waiting forever and ever, the embassy might grant me the visa even without the finality document. I know that's wishful thinking but hey, I can always hope If not, then wait 15 more days for the finality thingy to be issued.

And so I have to patiently wait again...

But I'm happy with the way things are developing. This will be over soon

wow..congrats!!!...well, that;s what i asked you PW before about the finality i mean the letter from solicitor general from manila office if the u.s embassy needs that during your interview.....anyway, when we submitted our my papers to the u.s embassy cebu to get my husband's legal capacity to marry the consul only needs the decision he doesn;t required us the certificate of finality hopefully you can get visa soon without waiting 15days.

jazzy

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Philippines

2006-06-08 23:15:00

VISA APPROVED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SHE SHOULD RECEIVE THE VISA BY THIS TIME NEXT WEEK AND THEN IT WILL BE GOODBYE PHILIPPINES...HELLO SUNNY, HOT, STORMY FLORIDA!!!!!!!!!!!!

wow....congrats!!! And GOOD LUCK!

jazzy

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Philippines

2006-06-07 18:18:00

hi PW,

we are so happy for you guys. atleast, your journey will end up soon. for us, we wait for the NOA2 again!.....but i am confident ... that we can get quick interview date like before coz my husband work hard and research everything for this....GOOD LUCK and hopefully visa will come soon! Keep up the good work in helping people here.

jasmin

jazzy

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Philippines

2006-06-05 07:50:00

hi nakashima....its really a good news....anyway...no load is always an excuse....GOOD LUCK...atleast you GOT it!

hi PW....

thank you so much for the information....actually my husband is confident enough and he knows what to attached in the petition but i just want to make sure what else did you attached and bring during the interview coz we want a perfect and successful journey..(again)

..good luck to you and hopefully your journey will end up soon....again...thanks for the information and i will bring all those papers during my interview.

jazzy

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Philippines

2006-05-17 07:49:00

hi...congrats to ryecather25..and...goodluck...

by the way...patiently waiting when you went to your interview before did the consul ask about the anullment papers..like the (entry of judgement) and the letter from (solicitor general) or just the decision from the judge? and i am confused what happened to nakashima too... why they we're on AR?.....thanksssss....hope to hear from you both...thanks.....

jazzy

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Philippines

2006-05-16 05:25:00

wow....congrats...best wishes... and have a safe travel soon. pray for us who left here...hehehhehe that we can get visa soon...

jazzy

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Philippines

2006-05-12 00:49:00

[quote name='PatientlyWaiting' date='May 4 2006, 09:20 PM' post='175581']
Hi Jazzy! How's your annulment going along? Are you applying for K1 again soon?

Hi Patiently Waiting....little update on us....the annulment was complete in march and we married in the philippines april26 th....

....I just mailed the I-130 out today...and so begins the new journey...i hope the embassy has improved its speed from last year....

jazzy

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Philippines

2006-05-05 17:43:00

hello everyone

I have a question..My step son is going to have the interview on June 1st. we had the packet sent to a friend that lives in Manila..

What forms are in the packet? I want to fill them out cause I have to send some other documents so I will send the filled out packet forms also when them

Also is their a Bank of the Philippines Islands close to the embasy or a citibank?

what about a hotel that is not too expenive so I can have my Mother in law and step son stay in.

any other suggestions cause my step son lives in Mindinao...

Yogi

hello yogib37,

i can recommend a hotel near u.s embassy its southern cross hotel tel no. 025212013 i stayed there during my interview last december its a new hotel or jualiano hotel but sorry i dont have number its affordable and clean.

jasmin

jazzy

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Philippines

2006-05-04 08:28:00

hi Patiently waiting,

i am so sorry to hear that.....anyway...your not alone of starting all over again...now i realized that GOD has his own plan to all of us....just keep your love alive, that's the most important thing. soon my anullment would be final and we will get married by april and we will start our journey again. just be patient again...and again....

happy valentine's to all (L)

god bless you.

jazzy

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Philippines

2006-02-13 09:16:00