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K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresRefile vs, Marraige and different route
QUOTE (Scott and Iryna @ Jul 4 2008, 07:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And why is she nervous about this? Is there a single post on VJ in which someone was denied for "no reason" from the Ukraine Embassy?


I don't think her anxiety came from VJ at all. A girl friend who had some one prepare documents seems to be the culprit. The posts actually say that many embassies don't give reasons. It seems like it would be tough to make a decision about what to do next if there is no reason given at all.
Brad and VikaMaleUkraine2008-07-04 18:20:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresRefile vs, Marraige and different route
Appreciate it. I will relay the responses. What I was looking for was the relative timeline for those two things. Just trying to reassure her that there is a plan B and C, just in case. I'm not too worried at this point, and plan to go to the interview too. Any information would be welcome...even if it is belt-and-suspenders.
Brad and VikaMaleUkraine2008-07-04 18:14:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresRefile vs, Marraige and different route
Hi everybody,

I just had a 90 minute discussion with my fiance', and she is really nervous about having our K-1 turned down at the Kiev embassy. Apparently couples sometimes get a "no" without a reason behind it. In that case, what are the merits of trying to fix/appeal/refiling K-1 as opposed to just getting married and trying a different route?

Thanks
Brad and VikaMaleUkraine2008-07-04 17:46:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresUSCIS Processing times
Looks like the VJ info. is the most accurate I can get mad.gif Our tax dollars at work headbonk.gif

Thanks for the help
Brad and VikaMaleUkraine2008-07-09 22:26:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresUSCIS Processing times
Hello all,

I have seen posts that say the processing time for K-1s on the USCIS website reflect the oldest case they are working on (currently December 18). How can I tell when other dates are being processed? Sorry for so many questions/posts. I guess I am becoming a serial poster yes.gif laughing.gif

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Brad and VikaMaleUkraine2008-07-09 22:02:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresanyone can help?
Pics are helpful, but I don't think they are required. Keep collecting other evidence. The guides may be a help to you, or create a new post asking VJ what other evidence works. I am sure others have been in your situation. Again, good luck!!
Brad and VikaMaleUkraine2008-07-09 15:39:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresanyone can help?
My pleasure smile.gif
Brad and VikaMaleUkraine2008-07-08 23:19:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresanyone can help?
Maybe if you collect as much other evidence as possible it will be OK. All the ticket stubs, itineraries, everything. Keep any email or letters. Laura is right though, take some pictures before the interview if you can. Good Luck!!
Brad and VikaMaleUkraine2008-07-08 22:46:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresdebt and visiting my fiance
QUOTE (Steve Y Jessica @ Jul 10 2008, 11:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Somehow you do need to take care of your money problems. But they have nothing to do with travel or a visa petition.


I agree. A US citizen can always re-enter regardless of finances.
Brad and VikaMaleUkraine2008-07-10 22:54:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresProof of a Realtionship
I think the OP is already in Dublin. The reviews suggest that both parties can attend, one consular officer even called the USC in the states during the interview to clarify something. I suppose that calling the embassy will answer the question with authority.

Edited by Brad and Vika, 13 July 2008 - 11:11 AM.

Brad and VikaMaleUkraine2008-07-13 11:11:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresProof of a Realtionship
QUOTE (mannequinn @ Jul 13 2008, 07:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
could i also ask, as i have been a little confussed by thread!

Where exactly do i go for the interview??? will i have to go in the USA??? How much notice do i get for the interview???


i am in Ireland he is in Philly, you see my wories.

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Ps. not that i would mind having to fly there for the interview......at least i'd get to see him blush.gif


Your K-1 interview will be at the US embassy in Ireland

He can probably go to the interview with you if you want - and can bear the expense. I will fly to Kiev to attend my fiance's interview, when we finally get that far!!

Edited by Brad and Vika, 13 July 2008 - 10:50 AM.

Brad and VikaMaleUkraine2008-07-13 10:48:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresProof of a Realtionship
QUOTE (sueandbarry @ Jul 12 2008, 10:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was asked for 'further evidence" mo ths after we sent in the I-129f! I was rather upset about it, but I know of another couple who had to send in 'further evidence" during the Consukate interview! So I did what she did-and so should you!

1. Make copies of 1 page of montly phone bils IF you have them, showing that you have had an on-going telephone relationship. IF you can put his/hr name in stead of the phone number, like I can with Verizon, do that. Personalisze it.

2. Make copies of several pages of phone chats from MSN or whatever Chat you use.

3. DO NOT put the photos on a disk! They do not have time for that! Print them out, either paper or take them to the instant photo place and take copies. Send them picciesof the two of you together, with dates and notes.

4. ANYHTHING you two bought together, receipts! Barry paid for the I-129 paperwork with his bank account number while we were in Sweden! So i have proof I was there with him.

5. My flight Itinerary, ticket stubs from my visit.

6. E-mails to my family and friends talking about us together, sent from Sweden during the visit.

7. Photos of Barry and his son taken by me, and photos of me and Barry taken by his son.

8. Love letters!

Honestly, anything and everytging...I had so much I had to go back and purge some of it. Make a nice little packet with a cover page and table of contents. Date everything!!!!!!!

Good luck...we have been waiting for almost a year now! We have our Interview on Wednesday. (Barry has to sit for 10 hours on the bus from Sundsvall to Stockholm, 5 down, the interview, and 5 back!!!).and I can use some good thoughts here!

Sue


QUOTE (mannequinn @ Jul 12 2008, 07:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey,

can anyone tell me exactly how is the best way to send proof of our relationship??

is it better to print the photos, or put them on a disc?

and what other evidence should we send?

we are planning on posting everything in the next few days so i wanna make sure we do it right.


My appologies I'm sure this has been asked a million times before.


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Best of luck to you both!! good.gif It sounds like you have really done most everything you can in terms of sending evidence yes.gif
Brad and VikaMaleUkraine2008-07-12 21:30:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresProof of a Realtionship
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QUOTE (Brad and Vika @ Jul 12 2008, 08:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Now that is funny rofl.gif By the way, have you been to Moldova? I want to go eventually. Been to Romania, Bulgaria, Poland, Ukraine - but skipped over Moldova. Our Romanian staffers were afraid to drive over the border from Braila. Something about criminal activity and car-jacking. If you have been, what would you recommend?


Not yet,

I leave Friday... The plan was to amongst many things, go visit Grandmother who lives only a few km from Moldova. We also thought about going up to Tiraspol in Pridnestrovia (that break away autonomous Republic) to visit some Uncles. We also thought about going to Chisinau to get my wife's transcripts from the University but I think we are able to get them remote so that part of the agenda has been cancelled.

I should be in Kherson a week from Monday after a few days in Odessa area


Say hi to Lenin for me. If you haven't, do see an opera in the new Opera House in Odessa. I have seen La Traviata and Madame Butterfly there. Performances aren't as good as some I have seen here, but the facility is not to be missed. I look forward to hearing about it. Post some pics too!
Brad and VikaMaleUkraine2008-07-12 20:51:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresProof of a Realtionship
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I agree. As I stated earlier in the post, it is an entirely subjective decision. No one thing will clinch it. So make the strongest case you can, with every tool available. You arent't required to show up, and it won't guarantee anything if you do. Hell, exercising won't guarantee I will lose twenty pounds - but it does improve my chances!!


I think an extended visit together during the interim period is a lot better sign of a "bonafide" relationship than simply showing up on game day.... but that is my opinion.....


Or both, even better, assuming you have unlimited time and money. It seems to me that the extended visit can be faked too. Sorry to switch hats on you devil.gif


Sure, but a two week time commitment together is a lot more expensive for the beneficiary to have to pay the USC to do. So the chances of it would seem to be statistically less probable. But unlimited funds cure many issues.


Right, I think that faking the visit is possible though. Unlikely, but possible. Good debate, my friend.

With the right amount of money and some know how (or access to this know how), I think it is even possible to fake the evidence all the way through from beginning to end including but not limited to the proof of initial meeting evidence.....

Heck, my wife had her divorce done in Moldova. Her certificate of divorce was in Moldovan language. She had the document first translated into Ukrainian and then from Ukrainian into English. (please do not ask why). Anyways, when I submitted the divorce decree, I sent only the Ukrainian to English translation. Like they knew the difference. They see an English translation (even if it is not the right one) and away they went.


Now that is funny rofl.gif By the way, have you been to Moldova? I want to go eventually. Been to Romania, Bulgaria, Poland, Ukraine - but skipped over Moldova. Our Romanian staffers were afraid to drive over the border from Braila. Something about criminal activity and car-jacking. If you have been, what would you recommend?
Brad and VikaMaleUkraine2008-07-12 20:07:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresProof of a Realtionship
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I agree. As I stated earlier in the post, it is an entirely subjective decision. No one thing will clinch it. So make the strongest case you can, with every tool available. You arent't required to show up, and it won't guarantee anything if you do. Hell, exercising won't guarantee I will lose twenty pounds - but it does improve my chances!!


I think an extended visit together during the interim period is a lot better sign of a "bonafide" relationship than simply showing up on game day.... but that is my opinion.....


Or both, even better, assuming you have unlimited time and money. It seems to me that the extended visit can be faked too. Sorry to switch hats on you devil.gif


Sure, but a two week time commitment together is a lot more expensive for the beneficiary to have to pay the USC to do. So the chances of it would seem to be statistically less probable. But unlimited funds cure many issues.


Right, I think that faking the visit is possible though. Unlikely, but possible. Good debate, my friend.
Brad and VikaMaleUkraine2008-07-12 19:50:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresProof of a Realtionship
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I agree. As I stated earlier in the post, it is an entirely subjective decision. No one thing will clinch it. So make the strongest case you can, with every tool available. You arent't required to show up, and it won't guarantee anything if you do. Hell, exercising won't guarantee I will lose twenty pounds - but it does improve my chances!!


I think an extended visit together during the interim period is a lot better sign of a "bonafide" relationship than simply showing up on game day.... but that is my opinion.....


Or both, even better, assuming you have unlimited time and money. It seems to me that the extended visit can be faked too. Sorry to switch hats on you devil.gif
Brad and VikaMaleUkraine2008-07-12 19:41:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresProof of a Realtionship
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All of this in my opinion just proves the point that the USC going to the interview is a good idea, if possible. Most evidence can be altered or slanted, and the determination is largely a subjective one. Even if the USC is not allowed in the room, being available in case of questions can't hurt. The fact that you flew all the way to present yourself at the embassy is pretty strong by itself. I know the USC's presence isn't required, but....


And the devil's advocate in me says that even in a fraudulent situation, the USC can certainly be paid enough to be present at the interview.


Does that make the presence at interview weaker proof than photos of the same person or passport stamps/tickets? The fact that the petitioner showed up is strong proof that you have 1) met recently, and 2) have a relationship with intent to marry. Fraud is fraud of course. Not flame-throwing here at all, but I am not sure I understand the point fwaguy. It is certainly less likely that a live party is helping commit fraud than a possibly photo shopped picture, right?


A person for the right amount of money will commit murder, for a lesser sum, a person might be willing to assist in a fraudulent visa scheme which includes being present at the consulate interview.

Bottom line. It is the totality of the evidence. No one thing necessarily puts it over the "top".


I agree. As I stated earlier in the post, it is an entirely subjective decision. No one thing will clinch it. So make the strongest case you can, with every tool available. You arent't required to show up, and it won't guarantee anything if you do. Hell, exercising won't guarantee I will lose twenty pounds - but it does improve my chances!!
Brad and VikaMaleUkraine2008-07-12 19:29:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresProof of a Realtionship
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QUOTE (Brad and Vika @ Jul 12 2008, 07:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
All of this in my opinion just proves the point that the USC going to the interview is a good idea, if possible. Most evidence can be altered or slanted, and the determination is largely a subjective one. Even if the USC is not allowed in the room, being available in case of questions can't hurt. The fact that you flew all the way to present yourself at the embassy is pretty strong by itself. I know the USC's presence isn't required, but....


And the devil's advocate in me says that even in a fraudulent situation, the USC can certainly be paid enough to be present at the interview.


Does that make the presence at interview weaker proof than photos of the same person or passport stamps/tickets? The fact that the petitioner showed up is strong proof that you have 1) met recently, and 2) have a relationship with intent to marry. Fraud is fraud of course. Not flame-throwing here at all, but I am not sure I understand the point fwaguy. It is certainly less likely that a live party is helping commit fraud than a possibly photo shopped picture, right?
Brad and VikaMaleUkraine2008-07-12 19:19:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresProof of a Realtionship
QUOTE (rebelsoul @ Jul 12 2008, 06:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey there mannequinn,

From our recent experience, photos might not be enough, because they provide no real evidence on the TIMING of these photos. Think about it this way, how do we prove that (1) we met in the last two years and (2) we are in a relationship.

For (1), this is the primary evidence, and you need anything that is DATED. So passport stamps of you going to the same travel destination, airplane tickets, hotel bills with both names, or even ATM receipt at a restaurant are all good examples of what you can submit.

(2) is the secondary evidence and can contain photos, emails, etc... i.e. anything whose date could be tricked, will not be a primary evidence.

Get both (1) and (2) and you'll be approved.

Take care and good luck!


All of this in my opinion just proves the point that the USC going to the interview is a good idea, if possible. Most evidence can be altered or slanted, and the determination is largely a subjective one. Even if the USC is not allowed in the room, being available in case of questions can't hurt. The fact that you flew all the way to present yourself at the embassy is pretty strong by itself. I know the USC's presence isn't required, but....
Brad and VikaMaleUkraine2008-07-12 19:03:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresProof of a Realtionship
I didn't send passport page copies at all, just didn't think of it. It seems to me that only puts you in the country though, and you would need dated pictures or something else to prove a bina fide meeting. I sent itineraries and ticket stubs with the same idea in mind.
Brad and VikaMaleUkraine2008-07-12 12:00:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresK1 - timelines - Do they vary by country?
QUOTE (Anjelika81 @ Jul 14 2008, 02:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi,

Where can I see difference in timelines for applicants from different countries??

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Yes, timelines vary as well as processing times for K-1 Visa depending on the country. Go to the processing time section or find others from the country where your fiance lives and look at their time lines to get an idea of what time you are going to be looking at. Keep in mind that this could change if you get an RFE or forget to send something in or if policy changes. When we started the process the guides said 3 months for applicants from Peru and it ended up taking 6 months because of policy changes here in the USA. Good luck with everything.


Thanks. I saw the difference in timelines for applicants from other countries and so your answer confirms what i was thinking. Do you know what "touched" means? How do people know their application was viewed by the service center? I am assuming thats what "touched" really means.



At the top of the page, click on Immigration Timelines. They break down by country and type of visa.
Brad and VikaMaleUkraine2008-07-14 03:40:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresK1 - timelines - Do they vary by country?
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QUOTE (Brad and Vika @ Jul 13 2008, 11:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Touched just means that USCIS has handled your file. You can track it on the USCIS website by creating an account, then referencing the case number on your NOA1. Good luck!!


Thanks - just did register and now I see what it means. Unfortunately the application hasnt been "touched" in a while - but I at least know what that means yes.gif


My pleasure - and welcome to the world of USCIS status checkers (some more compulsive than others). laughing.gif
Brad and VikaMaleUkraine2008-07-13 11:53:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresK1 - timelines - Do they vary by country?
Touched just means that USCIS has handled your file. You can track it on the USCIS website by creating an account, then referencing the case number on your NOA1. Good luck!!
Brad and VikaMaleUkraine2008-07-13 11:42:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresK1 for Cubans/How Long?
I recall hearing somewhere (not on VJ) that it depends on why you want to travel there. For example, people who travel to see relatives can go more frequently. I doubt that our government views falling in love with much sympathy.
Brad and VikaMaleUkraine2008-07-19 09:39:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresK1 for Cubans/How Long?
I think the instructions say that you must have met in the last two years or must explain why that isn't possible. Sounds like she has a pretty good explanation.
Brad and VikaMaleUkraine2008-07-18 19:51:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresAffidavit of Support
Why is a co-sponsor not workable? I think you will need to demonstrate your ability to support your fiance' regardless of the school situation. That is exactly what the affadavit is supposed to bring to light.
Brad and VikaMaleUkraine2008-07-23 22:43:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresDO I ALSO NEED A LETTER OF INTENT TO MARRY?
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Im just wondering if i also needed to have a notarized letter of intent to marry my fiance? ...any one can help me this? blush.gif Wel...i thought its only my fiance who could have this...i hope there is someone who could help me...thanks...



Hi there thes and rich,

both of you should have the letter of intent to marry,

Best!

The only thing needed to be notarized at this point would be the I-134 affidavit of support =)


I agree. Good luck!!!
Brad and VikaMaleUkraine2008-07-25 07:24:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedureshow is the best way to send a completed K-1?
USPS Express to VSC - no problemo!! cool.gif
Brad and VikaMaleUkraine2008-07-27 19:43:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresK1 Visa Help pls..--We don't have any Idea how to start
I think it is possible to do yourself. All the forms and links for the I-129F are here on VJ, and your fiance' can order them all from USCIS or download them on the web.

This is from the VJ guide on this site:

Download the Following Forms:

1. I-129F
2. G-325a

The above forms can be filled out on your computer and printed. Make sure you sign and date them as required. Anything you cannot fit by typing, you can handwrite (very neatly) in black ink in the blank instead. You should always verify the current forms at www.uscis.gov.

Assembling the I-129F Package: Checklist
Forms and Documents (follow these assembly instructions. All supporting documents must be in English or be translated as noted here.):
1. Payment as required by USCIS. Use a personal check so you can track the payment. Money Orders are also accepted.
2. Cover Letter (see example). Should include a description of what your are petitioning for (I-129F), a table of contents (list everything in the packet). If you need additional room to explain your case, attach a separate sheet (list the attachment on the cover sheet). Make sure to sign and date the cover sheet.
3. Form I-129F: Petition for Alien Fiance(e) (see example)
4. Declaration of how you met in person in the last two years. This should be a single typed page attachment regarding question 18 of the I-129F. Make sure to sign and date it.
5. Original statements (from both the US Citizen and foreign fiance) certifying an intent to marry within 90 days of entering the US on a valid K-1. (see example)
6. Proof of having met in past two years. (click here for examples)
7. G-325A (all four pages) filled out by the US Citizen signed and dated (see example)
8. One passport-type photo (see specification) of the US Citizen. Write the full name of the US citizen on the back. Place in a plastic bag and label the bag "Photo of <Insert US Citizen's Name>". Attach the bag to a sheet of paper and place behind the corresponding G-325a.
9. G-325A (all four pages) filled out by the foreign fiance(e) signed and dated (see example)
10. One passport-type photo (see specification) of the foreign fiance(e). Write the full name of the foreign fiance(e) on the back. Place in a plastic bag and label the bag "Photo of (insert foreign fiance(e) name) ". Attach the bag to a sheet of paper and place behind the corresponding G-325a.
11. Copy of the Birth certificate (front and back) for the US Citizen or a copy of ALL pages of the US Citizen's passport issued with a validity of at least 5 years or a copy of the US Citizen's naturalization certificate (front and back). This is used to establish citizenship.
12. Copy of final Divorce Decree(s) or Certificate(s) for the US Citizen and/or foreign fiance(e) if either has been previously married. If the previous marriage of the US Citizen and/or foreign fiance(e) ended due to the death of their spouse then include a Copy of Death Certificate(s) documenting that fact.
13. Proof of Legal Name Change if either the US Citizen and/or foreign fiance(e) is using a name other than that shown on the relevant documents. You must give USCIS copies of the legal documents that made the change, such as a marriage certificate, adoption decree or court order.
14. In regards to Section C Question 2, if applicable provide certified copies of all court and police records showing the charges and dispositions for any specified conviction(s) (in accordance with the IMBRA). See section 9 of the I-129f instructions for more information.




Documentary Proof of Having Met in Person in the Past Two Years and an Ongoing Relationship:
Use as many of these items are possible. There is no minimum,
but the more you can provide the less likely you are that you will receive an RFE. 1. Copies of all airline boarding passes, train passes, itineraries, hotel receipts, passport stamps (make sure you can read the dates on the stamps), and other documentary evidence that you have met within the last two years. You may want to highlight or place post-it notes indicating the dates and locations on the copies (to make the adjudication easier) for the person reviewing your file.
2. Color Photo's of you and your fiance(e) together. Make sure you write your names, date, and location on the back of every photo. Provide two to five photo's. If you only have a single copy of the photo, then make a color copy and send that. If it is a digital photo, have it printed at a company such as kodakgallery.com. You can also make duplicates of photo's at your local photo store (Walgreeens, CVS, etc). Place photo's in a plastic bag or photo sheet and label the sheet. Note that you may not receive originals of photo's back.
3. The following items will not typically show proof of having met in the last two years however will show proof of an ongoing relationship: Copies of phone bills, cell phone bills, emails (you can edit personal info with a marker), letters (edit personal info also), stamps on the letters (to document the date they were sent), and other written documentary proof. Provide a reasonable amount; two to four of each type. Pick a range of dates up to and including the present. You can also include a copy of engagement ring receipt (this is something that is a big optional - do not worry if you do not have a ring yet!)



Mail the I-129F Package to the USCIS
Section 12 of the I-129F instructions lists where you should mail the completed form(s). If you live in the United States this will be the Service Center with jurisdiction over the petitioner's place of residence. Mail the package with return receipt requested / delivery confirmation. Send via USPS.

That should get you started!! Good luck and God Bless!!! yes.gif

Edited by Brad and Vika, 04 July 2008 - 12:33 AM.

Brad and VikaMaleUkraine2008-07-04 00:32:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresPrevious Marrige
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File in the state where you live. You have her served by publication in the newspaper.

See an attorney to file and for the affadavits required for service by publication. No need to find her.


Even if she has never been here? I married her in Peru?
Thanks much


Your case is confusing because people are left to make too many assumptions.

I take it you married in Peru, you are the US Citizen and she's never been in the USA. If this is so, it may still be possible to file without actually finding her. Check the local laws governing such matters in your State.

If I've concluded incorrectly, please clear up the scenario for us.


Thank you ... I think you are correct I need to clarify a bit. Yes I did get married in Peru and she never came here to the USA. I had started the paperwork for VISA and it was approved. At about the same time she vanished? I have been calling...phone turned off, and e-mail etc. I did manage to get a hold of her mother, but all she told me is that I need to forget???? Anyway, as you can see I am kind of lost as to what to do next. Thanks much for the help.


OK - here is another question or two. Was it a civil or religious ceremony? What documentation do you have? The court of jurisdiction in this case will probably be the court where you, the petitioner, resides. I am a little concerned about the willingness of a court to disolve a foriegn marraige without consent of both parties when she has never been in the US, unless you can show cause (like abandonment). State laws and, frankly, the quality of the judge you get matter here. In some states family court judges are uncomfortable asserting jurisdiction over a matter when the status of one or more of the partys is unclear. Also, the recognition of the Peruvian government of an American divorce is really important if your next visa will go through the same country. You don't want to have a new Peruvian beneficiary, an American divorce, and a conflicting valid Peruvian marriage. In other words, getting a divorce here won't help you if you were married civilly in Peru and Peruvian authorities do not recognize the validity of the divorce under these circumstances.

Now about the new visa. The fact that she never came here on the visa may actually work in your favor initially, but I have to imagine a fresh divorce etc. under the circumstances will give a consular officer reason to question your intent to marry. Definitley consult an immigration attorney after a good divorce lawyer. You might want to try and annul the marraige. So long as the annulment is effective after the visa expires there should be no problem if she never used the visa. Document carefully, and save everything.

Maybe there are VJers with a specific background in international family law that can help answer some of the concerns above. Absolutely find a lawyer that not only does divorce, but understands the international/immigration component.


All good points but since he says he got a petition approved for her, there's no doubt the marriage was legal and registered because unless he submitted evidence to support that it was, no petition would have been approved.


True, and reading my comments above, I probably wasn't clear enough. There is no doubt that USCIS and State accepted that the marriage was valid for the purposes of granting a visa. A family court may not find that compelling enough to assert jurisdiction over the marriage under the circumstances (married in Peru - spouse never entered US). Even if that hurdle is crossed, the Peruvian civil authorities may not accept a divorce decree from an American court over a Peruvian marriage when the Peruvian national was not present, never entered the jurisduction, was not effectively served (US public notice not being recognized if she had no meaningful opportunity to see it and understand it - verifiable because she never entered the country), and lastly did not consent to jurisdiction let alone divorce. Family law does differ from place to place, and these issues may not be a problem where the OP lives or in Peru- all the more reason for competent counsel in my opinion.


Again all your points are well taken but only USCIS, not DOS has accepted the marriage certificate as sufficient to approve a petition. There was no interview so, DOS decided nothing. I'm just keeping the facts straight here. The couple is married. The OP hasn't indicated the new girlfriend's nationality but unless she's peruvian, it won't matter what the Peruvian authorities think about a US divorce.


No offense taken. I didn't mean DOS itself - I meant the consular officer that approved the visa, if I read the OP correctly. I guess I was making a leap assuming that the Peruvian marriage was to a Peruvian national, and that when the OP indicated that he wanted a visa for his new SO, that she was also Peruvian. If so, I would respectfully suggest that it does matter if again, under these circumstances, Peru recognizes an American divorce as valid. There is some case law (to my admittedly fuzzy recollection) that deals with the issue of having a spouse in America that married the respondent while there was still a valid marraige in the immigrants country of origin - although I think in the case I read the immigrant was the one with two spouses. If Peru says that the divorce isn't valid, then arguably the OP has not entered into a successful marraige contract the second time (making another obvious assumption there). Having a wife in Peru will have an effect on the immigration status of the second wife(?) here in the US. Let me know if that seems at all illogical.
Brad and VikaMaleUkraine2008-07-29 23:49:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresPrevious Marrige
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File in the state where you live. You have her served by publication in the newspaper.

See an attorney to file and for the affadavits required for service by publication. No need to find her.


Even if she has never been here? I married her in Peru?
Thanks much


Your case is confusing because people are left to make too many assumptions.

I take it you married in Peru, you are the US Citizen and she's never been in the USA. If this is so, it may still be possible to file without actually finding her. Check the local laws governing such matters in your State.

If I've concluded incorrectly, please clear up the scenario for us.


Thank you ... I think you are correct I need to clarify a bit. Yes I did get married in Peru and she never came here to the USA. I had started the paperwork for VISA and it was approved. At about the same time she vanished? I have been calling...phone turned off, and e-mail etc. I did manage to get a hold of her mother, but all she told me is that I need to forget???? Anyway, as you can see I am kind of lost as to what to do next. Thanks much for the help.


OK - here is another question or two. Was it a civil or religious ceremony? What documentation do you have? The court of jurisdiction in this case will probably be the court where you, the petitioner, resides. I am a little concerned about the willingness of a court to disolve a foriegn marraige without consent of both parties when she has never been in the US, unless you can show cause (like abandonment). State laws and, frankly, the quality of the judge you get matter here. In some states family court judges are uncomfortable asserting jurisdiction over a matter when the status of one or more of the partys is unclear. Also, the recognition of the Peruvian government of an American divorce is really important if your next visa will go through the same country. You don't want to have a new Peruvian beneficiary, an American divorce, and a conflicting valid Peruvian marriage. In other words, getting a divorce here won't help you if you were married civilly in Peru and Peruvian authorities do not recognize the validity of the divorce under these circumstances.

Now about the new visa. The fact that she never came here on the visa may actually work in your favor initially, but I have to imagine a fresh divorce etc. under the circumstances will give a consular officer reason to question your intent to marry. Definitley consult an immigration attorney after a good divorce lawyer. You might want to try and annul the marraige. So long as the annulment is effective after the visa expires there should be no problem if she never used the visa. Document carefully, and save everything.

Maybe there are VJers with a specific background in international family law that can help answer some of the concerns above. Absolutely find a lawyer that not only does divorce, but understands the international/immigration component.


All good points but since he says he got a petition approved for her, there's no doubt the marriage was legal and registered because unless he submitted evidence to support that it was, no petition would have been approved.


True, and reading my comments above, I probably wasn't clear enough. There is no doubt that USCIS and State accepted that the marriage was valid for the purposes of granting a visa. A family court may not find that compelling enough to assert jurisdiction over the marriage under the circumstances (married in Peru - spouse never entered US). Even if that hurdle is crossed, the Peruvian civil authorities may not accept a divorce decree from an American court over a Peruvian marriage when the Peruvian national was not present, never entered the jurisduction, was not effectively served (US public notice not being recognized if she had no meaningful opportunity to see it and understand it - verifiable because she never entered the country), and lastly did not consent to jurisdiction let alone divorce. Family law does differ from place to place, and these issues may not be a problem where the OP lives or in Peru- all the more reason for competent counsel in my opinion.
Brad and VikaMaleUkraine2008-07-29 23:03:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresk1-visa process duration
Welcome to AP h*ll. There is no time limit on adminstrative process, no one you can contact to get it sped up or to check on it other than to be told it is still processing. Good luck and my advice is to focus on the postive, time to make more money, get your residence ready for your SO, etc.
belinda63FemaleIran2007-08-22 15:04:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresGetting read to send in K-1 Petition...
just a word of encourgement. Make sure you have everything and then triple check it. My fiance's english is fairly good but I still found errors on his forms and we spent about 2 hours online filling out the papers together. I sent copies of random selections of all our online chats, yahoo lets u save them, photos of us in sweden, etc.
I wrote his letter of intent for hiim and emailed it. He wrote it out by hand in his own words in english and signed it. I found this to be better because he is insecure about his english abilities. He was very proud when he did the entire interview in english.
Since he had to mail everything to me for me to UPS to Ankara I made sure all the blanks were filled, even the ones that were N/a

Good luck and don't give up.
belinda63FemaleIran2007-09-25 07:43:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresState Department Visa Office Operating Hours
So glad I did not call today. They were probably wondering what was wrong as I have called every thursday since May.... or maybe they decided they needed a break from me and took the "fruit cake" and went for a picnic. boy, bet they were suprised. Hey, whoever sent the package you'd better make sure they didn't eat it by mistake.
"Sorry we nevery received (burp) your package."

As Scarlet O'Hara said "Tomorrow is another day."
belinda63FemaleIran2007-12-13 19:43:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresUs Old Folks
Not quite into the definition yet, I am 44 (USC) and he is 35.
I have been married and divorced, two children there and one after I was divorced. I am settled although not as well as I would like and for about 8 years was devoutly single.
I decided to take the plunge again but wanted a man who was interested in me for me, not for my looks, or material goods, sex, etc.
What I have found is my best friend, someone to share my life.
I think age doesn't matter so much as self discovery. When I married the first time I was looking for any man because I had been raised to believe a woman could not make it in life on her own.
After my divorce and discovering that I did not need anyone to help me, I finally discovered I wanted someone to share life with.
I think I have found him, and if he can ever get his visa, we will find out. Maybe I am just making another mistake but that's ok, this time I know I am strong enough to survive without him instead of putting up with years of abuse.
belinda63FemaleIran2008-01-14 18:10:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresCopying Yahoo I.M. chat archives, help !!
Hey, glad to see I am not the only one who did this. I also saved our chats from Yahoo and boy is there a lot.
I only printed selected dates, say once a week or twice a month and sent them to the embassy with all the other paperwork, not with the petition.
He was really worried about having enough evidence of a relationship but they never asked for more evidence, all I had sent were the chat logs and some pictures. Since we talk over Yahoo there were not even any phone records.
I would say go for it with the paperwork to the embassy, at that point I don't think there is such a thing as too much evidence.
belinda63FemaleIran2008-02-06 23:09:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresK-1 forms we met on the internet
me too
met him on a persian dating site, he became my best friend and now (if they ever finish the name checks) will be my husband.

Right now we are cyber-husband and wife laughing.gif
belinda63FemaleIran2008-03-25 22:12:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresresult of visa expiration
did u marry the usc who petitioned for your fiance visa?'
if so just file an AOS (adjustment of status) and you should be ok
if you did not marry you are in the country illegally and obviously not for the first time

as to illegal immigrants, from my personal experience, if you are found, u are processed by the immigration court which means you go to jail unless you can post your bond, and you remain there until your case is heard and a determination made.

My advice, stop coming to/staying in the country illegally.
belinda63FemaleIran2008-03-27 08:31:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresGetting married straight away after the K1 is approved
I have a three day waiting period but we will apply for the license the day he arrives or the day after. The sooner we are married the sooner he can start working.
We waited several months after deciding we were in love to file and it will be two years in June since we filed. Yes living together will be hard at first, he has never been married and I have been alone for ten years, but we can make it work. Sometimes I even suggest he might want to rent the apartment upstairs and just come to visit a few nights a week.

The sooner the better, we have waited too long already.
belinda63FemaleIran2008-04-05 22:19:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresTotal Costs of Immigration
Some is the basic fees, like filing for the visa, the AOS fees after they arrive, the $100 for the visa, biometrics fees Other fees are country specific, for example the cost of the medical exam.

Because my SO is in Iran, where we have no embassy he had to travel to Turkey for his interview and medical, and of course the second trip for the visa that was not issued, and hopefully his final third visit to Turkey for his visa. Each trip required him to fly and stay in a hotel and meals during his stay.

Some other costs we ran into was in mailing the packet to the embassy. Turkey requires it be sent by UPS and they only accept UPS from Turkey and the US. So my SO sent it to me from Iran registered mail (no idea how much that cost) and I sent it by UPS to Turkey (about $45). Add to that all the copies and notaries for official translations, etc

Right now we are at about $2,000-$3,000 for his to get here plus the $1000 or so for the AOS.

So yeah between the costs and the wait time (I filed the petition in June 2006) I almost wish he had snuck to Mexico two years ago.
belinda63FemaleIran2008-04-03 22:06:00