ForumTitleContentMemberSexCountryDate/Time
Middle East and North AfricaNontraditional Fiance
There has been a lot of talk and concern about the "Moroccan Embassy" and their all too often denials of petitions based on age, cultural or traditional differences. I feel for and agree with you ladies whose fiances/petitions have been treated unfairly. I can not imagine the heartbreak or stress, but I like others not at that interview yet am sitting here wondering how best to avoid being in that situation.

The thing that erks me the most in these cases is how they stereotype our guys as predispositioned to this or that. Certainly it is predjudiced or even racism at best. Having a strong case addressing your red flags as some have suggested is definately a good thing, but as others have pointed out, the proof doesn't always have a chance to be presented.

I can't say our strategy will work, as it has not yet been tried, but here is my plan. First things, one of the reasons I love my fiance and became so close to him, is because he is "nontraditional" and even considered a "rebel" by some of the older traditional people in his country. I could relate to that, because it has always been a part of my personality too. Yes we have a 3 year age difference, but honestly, we had no idea of that in the first. It didn't come up in conversation until much later in our talks, which i do have all archived and highlighted "interesting" points. My fiance is "muslim" but really, let's think of that, did he have a choice? Does he even know of any other religious alternatives or could he choose to be anything but? No... you are whatever you are born into in that country and nothing else is ever allowed to be presented. (Please any muslim friends here, do not take offense, I respect ALL religious "choices" and honor anyones choice, that is not the issue here) I see in my fiance, many things that lead me to believe, had he ever had a choice, it may not have been that one. He is always critisiced for wearing his hair untraditionally long, his grandma teases "it is pretty like a girls", he never goes to mosgue, does not say the prayers and doesn't even know the methods of washing before prayers. He does ocassionally drink, he smokes, and he talks of things like choice in religion, beliefs etc. He was upset his half sister never got a "choice" in who she was to marry and felt it totally unjust going on and on about "these "old" ways of thinking". His mother, whom I met love and adore, has been divorced twice, and is pursuing marriage again even at an age of more than 50. (I am divorced twice too) He was raised by his uncle who conceived his first child out of wedlock with a "girlfriend" and the uncle always supported the child. Heck, the childs mother even found a husband in Morocco to marry her after conceiving and giving birth to an illegitimate child. The uncle later married, is still married to the same woman now has 4 grown children and 2 daughters in their late teens early twentys one of which was recently "proposed" to in the traditional way by a young mans male family member, and they told their daughter "it is your choice" and allowed her to refuse him.

I could go on and on about the nontraditional family and state of mind my sweetie comes from, and what evidence I have seen with my own eyes how not "ALL" moroccans are one way or another. My plan is is to focus on his nontraditional family and actions and hopefully show he can not be put into a stereotype. He is a unique person, all his own, an individual, not some role others may think of.
I just hope in the COs determinations, they can see the men for who they are...
soul_encounterNot TellingMorocco2006-06-22 06:39:00
Middle East and North AfricaEngagement/Wedding Ceremony Pics
Shon,
I do recall reading some of her ordeal. If you had read mine and hers, you can easily see it is different. She did have a religious official orchestrate the "phone wedding" with witnesses for the intent of making their being alone together ok in the eyes of god and their religion and to protect her rights in case she were to become pregnant. I still think she was very wronged because "legal" is what should matter and is what is presented to us in immigration laws addressing what petition to file. I think I clearly stated i had no religious official in attendance and it was neither a religious or legal marriage.
Also, several people did not think I should send the photos or necessarily agree with me. I appreciated any and all views that were expressed with politeness and respect regardless of what point of view they took or whether or not they agreed with mine. You did NOT address me with any manner of respect. In fact, you assumed to make judgements on my character.
Look, this is going nowhere, if you can't see that you were not being helpful you were being rude, judgemental and disrespectful then you never will. And that's ok, you can have whatever opinion and expression of such you desire. I ask just one thing of you, for the sake of helping others reading these posts here understand their journey, if you address one of my posts, or I yours, use a little respect or we can just pass each other by.

[quote name='wife_of_mahmoud' post='280892' date='Jun 29 2006, 01:43 PM']
Oh wow.

Shon... why do you keep going off about a marriage here ? Soul_encounter has answered you, and made it clear that there was no "Islamic marriage" or papers signed. It was an engagement ceremony that admittedly LOOKS a lot like a wedding, but since there were no vows or contract -- how can you keep insisting it actually WAS a marriage, and that she's somehow "cheating" or "lying" ? You have a point about other cases that did seem to cross the line, but here... just cool your jets...

By the way, Shon is going through one of the most arduous and lengthy ARs ever seen on VJ, so I will give her a break for being under extreme stress.

Thanks for that enlightenment, I am truly sorry to hear of anyone having an unnecessarily hard time with this process. Even a "Smooth" (if there is such a thing) process of this anxiety can make the best of us edgy and paranoid. Good luck Shon, I hope you get relief soon. SE

Edited by soul_encounter, 29 June 2006 - 05:09 PM.

soul_encounterNot TellingMorocco2006-06-29 17:07:00
Middle East and North AfricaEngagement/Wedding Ceremony Pics
Liz

I will take time to say goodbye to you privately and thank you for your responses. It is a shame to know there were great people like you here to learn from at one time.

I am not ignorate, Su gente! :angry:

NONE of you - were by Goldenhearts side the weekend her heart crushed. none of you. if you never
heard the sound of hearbreak- I promise you would not want to. its the most horrible sound you ever wanna hear!

you know I tried to get the OP to do the right thing. Thats is registar her marriage and stop
playing games with her and hubbys life! thats all. its so easy to BE HONEST. The OP rather take it
the hard way and start practiceing lying. I dont care if NONE of you agree with me, I dont care if
all of you hate me. My statements come from 2 things..1..the pain of the process she has gone through
2... the pain Golden heart from the weekend her heart was broken. dayum me for trying to point her in the
truthful direction!

Honey blonde- hey if you wanna leave BYE!! no one is stopping you. everything you called me and anyone on here a finger is pointing right back at you. :thumbs:



:whistle:
I'm not gonna do it, not even wasting my time
soul_encounterNot TellingMorocco2006-06-29 05:55:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsThis forum is for Case Filing, Progress Reports & and Congrats Posts :)
Good Luck!


QUOTE (Charles/Gabriella @ Feb 6 2009, 11:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We have our interview date. March 24th!!! WOOO!!!! kicking.gif


RobinaFemalePakistan2009-02-07 18:27:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsI-129F Vermont - 7months for NOA2 ?

Just called uscis and they told me to wait another 30 days and that vsc is still working on petitions of may 25th...


You'll probably get yours any day now. The customer service people have no idea what they are doing in vermont. I called earlier this week - Once on Monday and was told that the website said 5.6 months and they couldn't do a service request until Tuesday (Yes, the very next day); Next I called back on Tuesday and that is the day they updated the site to 5.2 months and they told me there was nothing they could do b/c as far as they knew they were working on 05/28 - even though it says 'As of October 30th' on the site.

Either way, I got my NOA2 today - 4 days shy of 6 months. Yesterday, I made a list of 100 EAC #s before mine and 100 after mine. I came up with 88 K1s.Yesterday about 30 of the 88 saw were either approved or got an RFE. Looked pretty obviously to be that they were working on 06/11.
HollyandSimFemaleUnited Kingdom2012-12-07 16:42:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsSimilar Case numbers getting approved
6/11. Approved this morning. :-)
HollyandSimFemaleUnited Kingdom2012-12-07 12:25:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsSimilar Case numbers getting approved
I think I went a bit overboard with mine. Lol. I went 100 numbers before mine and 100 after. There were 88 K1s including mine and about 30 of them have either been approved or issued RFEs.
HollyandSimFemaleUnited Kingdom2012-12-07 07:58:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsSimilar Case numbers getting approved

I have made a list of i129F case numbers close to mine. I have seen movement since yesterday. 2 have been approved, 2 have got RFE. 3 status changed today , 1 status changed yesterday. I also remember seeing the status of one particular case number going from initial review to rfe ( in last 10 minutes)

Does it mean they are working on the box having our file or is there no correlation ?


Good idea! After I saw this, I did the same. There was quite a bit of movement around mine today. How far above and below your number did you go?
HollyandSimFemaleUnited Kingdom2012-12-06 21:07:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsJune filer receives NOA2
6/11 NOA1 approved today
HollyandSimFemaleUnited Kingdom2012-12-07 12:31:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsNOA2 letter sending to Consulate
Disregard Called NVC and they have my case :-) I got my new case number from them too
HollyandSimFemaleUnited Kingdom2012-12-13 19:39:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsNOA2 letter sending to Consulate
Hi everybody.
Got my NOA2 text/email on the 7th and hard copy in the mail today. The letter says "The above petition has been approved, and forwarded to the listed consulate". I was under the impression that it went to the NVC from Vermont, then it went to the Consulate.

Did I misunderstand?

Thanks,

Holly

Edited by HollyandSim, 13 December 2012 - 07:09 PM.

HollyandSimFemaleUnited Kingdom2012-12-13 19:00:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsAny June 2012 K1 Filers?

Were you able to get through to NVC no problem or did you find it best to call early or late?

Any robots there? :rofl:


NVC took about 3 minutes to get through to somebody. I called at about 7:30. They are open until 12 EST. no robots!! The lady was very nice and offered me more information than I knew to ask.
HollyandSimFemaleUnited Kingdom2012-12-14 08:20:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsAny June 2012 K1 Filers?
I looked at all of the numbers 100 before my EAC and 100 after - came out to about 88 K1s - and the day before my approval came about 30% of the K1s had seen some movement. It's kinda ####### behavior, but gave me a really good timeframe for approval. Plus I figured if I saw most of them approved, I would have some rationale for getting the robots at uscis customer service to do something.
HollyandSimFemaleUnited Kingdom2012-12-13 21:05:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsAny June 2012 K1 Filers?
I've heard it all through the day. I got mine at 11am. I've heard people saying they get them as late as 9pm.
HollyandSimFemaleUnited Kingdom2012-12-13 21:02:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsAny June 2012 K1 Filers?
NVC has our case and we have our new case #!! I called today!!

The number is 603-334-0700....you'll likely need it. Once you get approved, the USCIS can't tell you a dang thing including if they've sent it to NVC or not. NVC can tell you if they have your file. I was approved on Friday and they got my file yesterday.
HollyandSimFemaleUnited Kingdom2012-12-13 19:59:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsAny June 2012 K1 Filers?
Good luck everybody!
HollyandSimFemaleUnited Kingdom2012-12-10 08:33:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsAny June 2012 K1 Filers?

i am sooooooo excited. i am a june 11 filer and today i received my approved NOA2. looks like vermont is moving along


Same here.....06/11 and approved today :D (L) :thumbs:
HollyandSimFemaleUnited Kingdom2012-12-07 16:26:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsAny June 2012 K1 Filers?
They posted an update on the uscis site. It says as of October 31st they were working on 5/28. That was more than a month ago and I'm 13 days after that. I want mine. (Insert pathetic whine here LOL).
HollyandSimFemaleUnited Kingdom2012-12-05 14:19:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsAny June 2012 K1 Filers?
June 11th here. I think they skipped me. :-(
HollyandSimFemaleUnited Kingdom2012-12-05 14:15:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsAny June 2012 K1 Filers?
I called the uscis tonight about my case. Was told they won't do a service request or anything until I hit the 6 month mark, which will be next week. I think waiting is harder when you're in the home stretch!
HollyandSimFemaleUnited Kingdom2012-12-04 22:18:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsAny June 2012 K1 Filers?
Congrats!!
HollyandSimFemaleUnited Kingdom2012-12-04 20:52:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsAny June 2012 K1 Filers?
Based on my completely unscientific review of the May folks, I'm thinking we only have about 44 of them are active on VJ and haven't heard anything. That's about 25% of the total.
HollyandSimFemaleUnited Kingdom2012-11-21 15:55:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsAny June 2012 K1 Filers?
Anybody over the 5 month timeframe calling to check on their status? I mean we all know it is over 5 months, but was wondering what you guys were doing.

In the meantime, Sim has gotten his police certificate, which shows 'No Trace'. He's also got his appointment today to get his vaccinations, which will be needed for AOS, but not K1.

Am I missing anything?
HollyandSimFemaleUnited Kingdom2012-11-12 12:44:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsAny June 2012 K1 Filers?
(L) We're up to 382 now.

Sim also got his police certificate back yesterday.
HollyandSimFemaleUnited Kingdom2012-10-25 11:24:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsAny June 2012 K1 Filers?

Yes I think you are the only one who watches your number decrease on Igor's list!
I only watch my own number decrease! :rofl:


HAHA! True!
HollyandSimFemaleUnited Kingdom2012-10-18 11:30:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsAny June 2012 K1 Filers?

Am I the only one that watches my number decrease on Igor's list? As of right now, 428. :-) I keep watching the number of approved petitions and it looks like they are approving quite a bit more per day than they were before.

Come on VSC!! Knock those April ones out and move on to May!! :clock:



#407 now and I am watching my date get closer on my timeline. :-) Come on VSC!!
HollyandSimFemaleUnited Kingdom2012-10-18 10:57:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsAny June 2012 K1 Filers?
Am I the only one that watches my number decrease on Igor's list? As of right now, 428. :-) I keep watching the number of approved petitions and it looks like they are approving quite a bit more per day than they were before.

Come on VSC!! Knock those April ones out and move on to May!! :clock:
HollyandSimFemaleUnited Kingdom2012-10-12 16:29:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsAny June 2012 K1 Filers?

I'd like to be there for the interview, but she prefers that I come after the visa is in hand to escort her back here, so I'll be going back at that time. I think it's too risky for me to go before the interview and then have to come home without her if the visa processing gets delayed (I only have 2 weeks vacation to use), so that's why we decided to wait until the visa is issued. Good luck to you, and to the the rest of the June filers!


That's our plan too. I am going to go there to help pack, move, etc. Plus, it may help if he has any trouble coming back to the US with the visa.
HollyandSimFemaleUnited Kingdom2012-10-10 11:38:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsAny June 2012 K1 Filers?
OK Fellow June filers.....

Unrealistically we are getting close to our 5 month timeframe and I am curious if anybody else is working on their police check, had their medical or anything else.

I am thinking that *maybe* if we can have everything in hand once we get through this NOA2 process that maybe we can get the interview scheduled relatively quickly. Who knows?! I am curious if I am behind on anything.

Sooooo......what have you been doing since you got your NOA1?
HollyandSimFemaleUnited Kingdom2012-10-08 18:06:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsAny June 2012 K1 Filers?

I'm thinking Jan 2013
Anything before that will be a pleasant surprise!

Then it'll be the wait for a MNL# and an appointment at the embassy! lol

Hey things could speed up? :rofl:


Yep. I agree. They updated their information yesterday saying as of Auguest 31st they were working on early March. Basically, in a month they have only worked through a week's applications. Sad Sad Sad.

An April wedding sounds fantastic. I was actually hoping for an outdoor spring wedding, but it looks like I will end up with an indoor blistering hot summer wedding. :-(
HollyandSimFemaleUnited Kingdom2012-10-05 10:29:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsAny June 2012 K1 Filers?

. . .Any June Filers getting lucky with a NOA2 recently? What date is your NOA1?? My NOA1 is June 25 and I am hoping for a NOA2 soon as I am wanting to go to the Philippines to take a vacation with my Ladyfriend,visit with her relatives, do some SCUBA & be in Manila for the SLEC & Visa process. . .Thanks in advance. .


Looks like everything has been pretty quiet around here. Any new updates? Next week will be 4 months since our NOA1. I check everyday and nothing.

What should we expect? Can any of you CSC filers that have received your NOA2 tell us what to expect?
HollyandSimFemaleUnited Kingdom2012-10-02 16:04:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsAny June 2012 K1 Filers?

We can hope but USCIS National average is now posted for 8.5 months for K1 and Vermont has 2/27/2012 as it's posted date instead of 5 months. Hopefully this will prompt Vermont to throw some resources at the problem.



Where did you see the average? I see that Vermont is now showing 02/27....well that's depressing. I agree with you, though, CSC getting them out in 80-90 days and VSC taking more than twice that long. Yep, there's a problem.

Funny, I remember reading all of these threads before I filed about how fast VSC was and how slow CSC was. I was so happy when I found out mine was going to VSC. SMH! :bonk:
HollyandSimFemaleUnited Kingdom2012-09-14 15:55:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsAny June 2012 K1 Filers?

I am sorry to hear that Holly, i know the feeling... wow you got so much things to do! maybe later on you'll realize that time went by so fast not like me as of now I'm doing nothing at the moment looking at the clock every hour. just hang on i believe moms are strong! turn things to positive start your day with a smile even there are trials around. thats what i do after months of complaining/venting to my fiance too.



Thanks! I'm sorry I was such a complainer. I am not normally like that. I guess the thing I need to keep remembering is how lucky I am to have him and that this stuff is short term.

I really am happy for all of you June filers getting approvals. Maybe a whole bunch of people at VSC took vacations in the summer and now they'll come back refreshed and ready to knock all of the petitions out. :-) A girl can hope, right?
HollyandSimFemaleUnited Kingdom2012-09-14 12:04:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsAny June 2012 K1 Filers?

Our estimation has moved to October 8th-20th, (NOA1 June 25) which is around my (Myke) birthday, and when Kerry will be visiting me, so that would be a perfect birthday present!

I leave the States in 3 weeks after having my full 90days here, and as soon as I get home, I will be updating all my vaccinations. Other than prepare for the interview, is there anything else essential I should be doing? I saw someone mention getting police checks - does the USCIS not do that in the original checks?



While I am happy for all of you CSC folks getting your NOA2, I'm also very jealous. Yesterday was 3 months since I got the NOA1 and it looks like I will have about 3 more to go. :-(
I wish they would ship some of the VSC files to Cali.

I would probably be ok with it all, but this has been a pretty horrible 3 weeks since Simon has gone back to the UK. School has started and my son is starting a new school. He's getting bullied. :-( Plus we're having trouble on the bus. They keep dropping him off at home when no one is there and they should be dropping him off at his aftercare.

That doesn't even take into consideration that I am super swamped at work. We haD 2 positions that needed to be filled in my department and another girl just went on long-term disability and won't be returning. That makes 3 positions that needed to be filled (there are only 2 us now) and we got told today that we're not filling them due to budget cuts. There is NO way I will be able to keep up with things as is.

Why can't they have an expedited process for life!

I'm so sorry to be a complainer, but I normally get to talk to Simon on my lunch everyday, but I didn't get one today (probably the beginning of a trend). I don't know how many of you use Viber, but it is generally better quality than Skype. Until recently. Half of our calls are spent saying "What", "let me call you back", "Sim....Sim....Sim" "Can you hear me now?". :ranting:

I totally went from being like a warm and happy family for 3 months to a lonely, jealous, depressed, frustrated, worried mom/co-worker/fiance.

And by the way, yes I am writing this at work, but dang it. I should get 10 minutes for myself! :crying:
HollyandSimFemaleUnited Kingdom2012-09-12 16:36:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsAny June 2012 K1 Filers?

Hi Claire,

How is yours so quick? Are you at Cali service Centre? We are at Vermont, NA01 was end of June so you are a maybe two weeks ahead of us but our expected NA02 is end of December! At least that is what this website says :( :( so far away. You are lucky you can spend the whole summer there too! I am happy that yours is going so fast, but jealous too - I wish ours had gone to Cali they seem to take half the time! Where abouts in England are you from? x



We're Vermont too. It's showing our estimated approval between December 6 - 11. Our NOA1 date was 06/11, so that's 6 months. :-(
Simon's been here since the end of May, but he is headed back home next week. It's going to be a rough 6ish months.

Let's hope Vermont picks up the pace. I wonder too if the Olympics being in London have slowed the process for UK recipients.

COME ON VSC!!
HollyandSimFemaleUnited Kingdom2012-08-13 23:06:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsAny June 2012 K1 Filers?

I'm pretty sure active military members can expedite petitions, I think you just have to call them.


Maybe I should join... :devil:
HollyandSimFemaleUnited Kingdom2012-07-30 18:29:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsAny June 2012 K1 Filers?

Exact same boat as you. NOA1 date is 6/11 and we got our text and email on the 14th. VSC here. How about you? Will you be seeing eachother before your acceptance any?


I see where you are showing the estimate on our timeline. Is that what people are looking at? Ours is December 2nd - 9th. Ohhhhh how depressing. VSC Please Please Hurry!!! :o
HollyandSimFemaleUnited Kingdom2012-07-30 18:27:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsAny June 2012 K1 Filers?

Hey same here, ours hasn't been touched since June 11th either - thats our NOA1 date. Trying to keep busy so I'm not thinking about it all the time! Whens your NOA1? CSC OR VSC?

Claire


Exact same boat as you. NOA1 date is 6/11 and we got our text and email on the 14th. VSC here. How about you? Will you be seeing eachother before your acceptance any?
HollyandSimFemaleUnited Kingdom2012-07-30 18:24:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsAny June 2012 K1 Filers?

can't you expedite your petition?


How do you expedite it????
HollyandSimFemaleUnited Kingdom2012-07-30 18:21:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsAny June 2012 K1 Filers?

Yeah, it sucks not hearing anything. They said if you dont hear anything after several months I could call to check on it again. I check the website every day to see if they have updated anything ( using my tracking number ) and they have not touched it since the 8th. I hate this because it makes me feel nervous but at the same time it makes me happy because we do not have any RFI yet. Let us hope the best for both of us. My date is being told 17th October at this point... but again those numbers change daily.

Best to focus on the documentation that is needed for the interview.



Hi folks. I'm just checking in. We're approaching 2 months. Sim is still here until August 20th, but we're both starting to realize how very little time that is. This will probably be the last time we see eachother until we're approved. Super depressing, but hopefully we'll be back together within 6 months. After everything else, we can make it 6 months no problem.

I have been regularly checking the uscis website and there is no update. No touching either. No RFEs, which is good, but since they haven't touched it since 06/11/2012 that means nothing.

Waiting is super hard.

I just keep hoping to be one of those freak petitions that gets processed in like 2 months.

At least we are still together for now. This 3 months together has been GREAT.

riuthamus - How did you hear your date as October 17th?

Edited by HollyandSim, 30 July 2012 - 06:13 PM.

HollyandSimFemaleUnited Kingdom2012-07-30 18:12:00