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K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsHow many times have you visited your fiance?

I have a similar question. Me and my fiance met and developed our relationship while I lived in his country for 5 months. But, since returning to US I have not been back and don't plan on going back for another visit until he gets his visa. As long as we met in person, visiting doesn't matter, right?


Correct, as long as the last time you were together was less than two years before filing.
Brad and VikaMaleUkraine2011-08-11 09:46:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsHow many times have you visited your fiance?
We actually met here. After Vika went back to Ukraine, we met again probably four times before she returned on our K-1.
Brad and VikaMaleUkraine2011-08-10 20:31:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsVisa Approved!!!!
Congrats to you both :dance:
Brad and VikaMaleUkraine2012-02-10 23:15:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsVisa approved today
Congrats :dance:
Brad and VikaMaleUkraine2012-06-12 19:58:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsOMG!!!!!! I129F NOA2 Approved today!!!!!!!
Moved to K-1 Progress Reports from K-1 Process and Procedures
Brad and VikaMaleUkraine2012-07-13 16:01:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsI-129 approved
Moved to K-1 Progress Reports from K-1 Process and Procedures
Brad and VikaMaleUkraine2012-07-13 16:01:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsApproved!!
Moving to progress reports
Brad and VikaMaleUkraine2012-07-27 19:20:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsYeheyyy! NOA2 after 88days...Wohooooo!
Moving to progress
Brad and VikaMaleUkraine2012-08-04 18:22:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports129f sent!!!!!
Good luck!
Brad and VikaMaleUkraine2012-07-07 15:15:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsGot our NOA2 after 3 months :)
Moving to progress
Brad and VikaMaleUkraine2012-08-04 18:23:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsI WONDER WHAT IS GOING
Moving this to K-1 status forum
Brad and VikaMaleUkraine2012-10-06 10:04:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsI-129F approved, NVC did not receive case

We received a notification from NVC today, notifying us the specific case number, location of US Consulate, priority date, etc.
Still need to check whether the package has actually left NVC. Nevertheless, this is good news!


Great news! I think NVC usually takes just a few days. You are on the way :dance:
Brad and VikaMaleUkraine2012-06-27 22:00:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsI-129F approved, NVC did not receive case
Any news OP?
Brad and VikaMaleUkraine2012-06-26 18:43:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsI-129F approved, NVC did not receive case
For those of you that are USCs in the US currently, you might consider contacting your congressional representative. We did, and found them very helpful, although our issue was different. They had liason contacts at each USCIS office, and I presume would have the same at NVC. If there is a problem with lost files or late processing, they are able to get supervisory attention. Make sure you have case numbers, correct name spelling, dates, etc. available.
Brad and VikaMaleUkraine2012-06-21 20:58:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsWhy couldn't we open a joint checking account today? Husband is here on K!
Find another bank. My hubby had no problem at all opening an account prior to receiving his green card.
belinda63FemaleIran2012-01-09 13:02:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reportsfinace visa
Are you afraid she is not coming to be with you or are you concerned with what happens at the airport when she enters the US? When she arrives at her port of entry, usually the first landing inside the US, she will have her brown envelope taken, be asked some questions, etc, and continue on to her next flight or leave the airport. They don't care where she is headed or if she intends to immediately go to you or your residence. She has 90 days to marry you and they will only be concerned if that doesn't happen.
belinda63FemaleIran2012-04-09 16:34:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reportsdo you need a 1040 form if i have everything else?

You have to provide a complete tax return for each year. This means the entire tax return (1040 or 1040A or 1040 EZ and all schedules). Along with this you have to provide all your w-2s. OR you can provide a tax transcript obtained from the IRS for free. You also need to include the employment letter and current paystubs.


belinda63FemaleIran2013-06-10 12:35:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsFiancee visa denied after AP... Please read

How many men in the US have been prosecuted for statutory rape because the girl lied about her age? More than a few. Granted the fact that she attempted to use false documents to obtain immigration benefits is a big plus for him as fas as proof she lied when he is sitting in a jail cell awaiting trial this won't be much comfort.


belinda63FemaleIran2013-10-24 18:37:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsFiancee visa denied after AP... Please read

Right now you are probably on the list of child sex offenders for that country. There might even be criminal charges pending against you in the US. Even if you make it out of the US there is a good chance you will be arrested when you leave the plane there. You need an attorney now to check into this for you.


belinda63FemaleIran2013-10-23 22:07:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsPregnant and giving birth before interview.

And how are you going to pay for it. A normal hospital birth cost around $10.000.


belinda63FemaleIran2013-11-15 17:21:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsREADY? ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS? OPEN?

My post wasn't specifically for you alone. There are many, many people who come on here in a panic because they bought plane tickets, planned weddings, quit jobs, gave notice on their lease.......and they didn't get their visa when they were planning on it. Maybe if we say this enough times we won't see people coming on here in a panic.

 

congratulations on the approved visa, someone from the philippines can give you better information about how long it takes to receive it.


belinda63FemaleIran2013-11-19 09:08:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsREADY? ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS? OPEN?

Just a word of advice to all the people who make plans prior to the visa being in hand

 

DON'T


belinda63FemaleIran2013-11-18 23:15:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reportspassport and yellow packet received. no visa in passport

Just to let you know the visa is not a stamp. It is a full page item with photo. She might be looking for the wrong thing although doubtful she could miss this. Sorry but you will have to wait until the embassy contacts you then return the passport and wait for it to be returned to her with the visa this time.


belinda63FemaleIran2013-11-10 15:53:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsK-1 Visa Immigration Interview

I assume she is entering on a K-1 visa?


belinda63FemaleIran2014-01-07 14:42:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsAnyone got his/her K-1 Visa approved after only one meeting in person with fiance(e)?

We did. It was several years ago but I sent about 30 pages of yahoo chats...just random selections from the entire period,  and pics of me with his family.


belinda63FemaleIran2014-04-21 21:56:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsIs there such a thing of extending I-194 after k1 visa expires?

The people at the social security office are not immigration people. It's like asking your car mechanic about your sore foot.

When you receive your EAD you can apply for a social security number as your EAD gives you work authorization.


belinda63FemaleIran2014-05-16 11:39:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsK1 Visa Rejection....

Just play the game, that's all you can do. On the bright side they are finally processing your case and as soon as they receive the requested information you will move on to the next step.


belinda63FemaleIran2014-05-19 14:40:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsFeb filer here who contacted my Senator....

      If you are standing in a long line waiting to buy a ticket and you go up to the person selling the tickets to ask them how much longer the wait is going to be don't you think it will slow the process down? Now what if 100 people went up to the ticket seller to ask how longer they are going to have to wait in line. The ticket seller is going to be so busy answering your questions they won't be able to sell tickets. Thus the wait has just become much longer.

      Or more of a daily example. You are waiting for your food at a fast food restaurant. Someone walks up to the cashier and starts asking for all sorts of special things. Can I get creamer? And can I get some ketchup? How about some hot fries? Now I need extra dressing. I need a to go box. You get the idea. And what happens to your food while this special person is being dealt with? Your food is sitting there waiting for the cashier to get to it to give to you.

  

     USCIS is required to answer every Congressional inquiry within a set number of days. So the person has to stop adjudicating the cases to write a letter/send an email/make a phone call. Now imagine if they had to respond to 20 Congressional inquired daily...when would they have time to adjudicate cases?

     Contacting your representative to discuss an issue with a government agency is your duty as a citizen. But making an inquiry into your personal case when it is within processing times is not.

     BTW I did contact my congressperson in regards to my case AFTER it had been in AP for six months. I didn't ask them to check on it a week after it went into AP as that would have been useless.

 


Edited by belinda63, 18 June 2014 - 01:28 PM.

belinda63FemaleIran2014-06-18 13:25:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsFeb filer here who contacted my Senator....

And how many adjudicators are having to stop looking at petitions to go pull yours from the warehouse? How many adjudicators are having to stop reviewing petitions to respond to your Congressperson? How much are all of you that are doing inquires actually slowing down the process?


belinda63FemaleIran2014-06-18 13:01:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsUnapproved petition

Are you saying the website for your case status says "unapproved" sure it doesn't say "denied"?


belinda63FemaleIran2014-03-01 14:52:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsUnapproved petition

Do you mean your petition was denied? What does the letter say?


belinda63FemaleIran2014-03-01 14:39:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reportswow sending to the lockbox isnt as effective...

confused? Isn't as effective as what? All petitions have to go to the lockbox where they are checked for payment and signatures then they are routed to the appropriate service center. It is a pre-processing facility.


belinda63FemaleIran2014-08-25 16:16:00
Middle East and North AfricaMoroccan Women as K-1 or 3????

Welcome to the ME/NA forum ! We're glad to have you join us. You'll find lots of good info, advice and support here.

Farah2005 is another VJ woman from Morocco.... haven't seen her post much since she arrived in the U.S.

Good luck with your process !

(F)

-MK



Thanks you guys are all Great... I am a US woman engaged to a moroccan man, I am 5 years older than he is but neither of us knew that in the beginning. Anyhow, we met online 3/11/05 and in person 3/11/06. We have NOA1 of 5/1/06. I was married and divorced twice, and have children, he has never been married and has no children although I suspect once here, we may work on that. Right now though I'm going through hormone and fertility injections (that rock my sanity btw) to prepare my uterus for surrogacy of my soon to be neice or nephew. Our projected implant date is september which, beore this hold up with imbra would have put my sweetie here with me close after ... Now we just don't know. I do know I mis him terribly and really could use his support through this, but i'll be tough.
I guess after reading so many of the interview problems Us/Moroccan couples have had with interviews, I was really wondering if they are harder on the men than women coming out of morocco, or if they are just as tough on them too.
We have pictures and video of our time together there
Saved plane tickets, bus stubs, origional polaroids
Letters from his family and friends notarized and translated
Letters from my family and friends
The children and I write him letters weekly
I email him daily - saved
We chat online and archive those daily
I have my cellphone records where he calls me nightly
*Anything else ya'll can think of to gather before that dreaded interview, let me know
soul_encounterNot TellingMorocco2006-06-11 10:13:00
Middle East and North AfricaMoroccan Women as K-1 or 3????
I am new around here and haven't met a lot of the people, but I see most of the ones with moroccan fiances are US women. Are there any US men out here petitioning for a female moroccan fiance?
soul_encounterNot TellingMorocco2006-06-10 08:36:00
Middle East and North AfricaT-T-T-Tuesday!

Good morning! I've got 15 more days and I'll be in Morocco with my fiance!!!!!! Is it too early to be packed now?! :unsure:



Funny, no 15 days is definately not too early for packing. I went shopping the month before I went, bought suitcases, clothes, new shoes (stupid shoes, i got pretty strappy high heels and i never did get the chance to wear em... comfort won out over pretty in the end) but seriously, I had everything from toiletries to medicines bought and packed weeks before and never touched any of it till i was there. Worst part was, i took 2 jumbo cases stuffed to the max, and should have went with just a carry on. When I got there I was showered with gifts of clothes etc and hardly wore anything I took.
soul_encounterNot TellingMorocco2006-06-13 11:38:00
Middle East and North AfricaVISA DENIED 2ND TIME!!!
First, I am so sorry to hear of this tragedy. When visiting my fiance in Morocco this year, I met a couple (american woman, moroccan man, 12 year age difference, she had 3 previous divorces) and her fiance got the same interrogation about the age difference, and also her previous marriages. Evidently, she was asked to write a "reply" to the consular officers findings. In the consular officers letter of findings he had written "It is highly unusual/unlikely for a moroccan man to marry a woman so much older than himself or one who has been previously married" She did not have any legal assistance and was at a loss for what to write, so I did some research for her and used "cultural" and "religious" beliefs to be the basis to refute that officers findings. I wish I had this letter saved still, but do research to support that moroccan (muslim) men, do not see an age difference as a factor in marriage or the woman having been previously married. In short, Mohammeds first and great love of his life was Khadija whom he met at the age of 25 and when she was 40. She had been previously married as well. While she was alive, he did not take any other wives. It is hard for any consular to argue with something, modeled after that persons prophet.
soul_encounterNot TellingMorocco2006-06-10 07:53:00
Middle East and North AfricaNontraditional Fiance

I just want to wish you the best of luck. Quite a few things have changed since my husband (then fiance) had his interview in 5/05. I can only suggest, like everyone else, to be sure he presents all the information he has proving your ongoing relationship. My husband went into his interview like everyone else, full of confidence knowing our love was true and he would receive his visa. Every one is told to be prepared and I am sure all are. Why he received his visa and others have not, I have no idea. I guess we were lucky. We have a large age difference but then his parents did too, his mother was 13 years older than his father. They never questioned him about our age difference. He did present all our evidence of our two years of knowing each other but I had only been to Morocco once. I can only wish everyone good luck and try not to worry. Make sure your husband/fiance knows everything about you. My husband knew more about me than I did and was able to answer each question without hesitation. It may seem funny but go over everything as often as you can before the interview quick a few times, it might help. Give him all your support because he has so much weight on his shoulders when he enters the consulate and I pray it all goes well. I would think just his showing them your love and relationship will be better than showing them he is different.

Doreen


It is so great to hear a happy ending Doreen, you made my morning. Thank you so much for this reply. I do know and understand the reasonings for all the changes in the last year or so. I saw for myself the evidence of cons at work and my fiance and I have discussed a few such cases that we know honestly. Really, I feel badly for those boys who are going through this as a way out and not for love. The sad reality of actual life in america as compared to the myths of movies will sink in and they will miss what they left. There are some things in life, not even money can buy. Such as the closeness of family and friends who work and share together as in morocco. And say goodbye to all that free time sitting around watching soccer in the cafes boys.
My fiance has no misconceptions of life in america. He knows and has seen first hand how even with what most consider to be a "good" job here with salary, it is a neverending struggle for me. He says to me all the time "Ahbiba, please try to make your ex sign for the babies to come here and live with us. I can care for all my family here, I hate to see you working this hardly." We didn't start chatting with the intent of falling in love, and when we did, our first choice of where to live, was not the US.
He knows everything about me, from the time I wake, the fact that I don't do breakfast other than coffee (that was a huge battle during my stay there, he really protested my not eating the first meal), he knows the childrens schedules, what days they do soccer, equestrian lessons, guitar, what weekends they are gone to their dads, he knows all my quirks and buttons and uses them too, my family history and relationship with them... You know, I had 2 deaths in my family last year, my uncle and my grandma, he was there with me on the phone through my tears during both of those times and not just for me, he called my father too both times daily for week just to be sure he was ok... His uncle and grandmother were calling me to be sure I was ok. I was hurt last year and pain meds make me horribly sick and loopy so I had to take half doses and even that was still bad on my system. I was down for 4 days and talking out of my mind, he called me every 4 hours to be sure I ate something, took those meds, then sang goofy american love songs to me until I fell asleep. He even called my doctor daily to update her on how I was doing at home. Even now, he calls me in the middle of the day "Have you remembered to eat hayati?" "No baby I've been busy with appointments and not found time for that yet." "Then stop those appointments and eat something quickly hobi... why why why you don't care for my life?" I swear the whole time I was in morocco it was a constant bombardment of food constantly... those people I love em for sure but for goodness sake I thought they were trying to kill me with food. For a gal who is used to having coffee for breakfast, a banana, some trail mix and dr pepper on the road during the day between appointments, and a quick throw together or order in dinner at night all that constant cooked meals 4 times a day and in between goodies is a lot to handle. And they were always fussing that I didn't eat well and if I didn't eat to their satisfaction they cooked twice as many things the next meal thinking sooner or later they would find something I liked despite my assurances that everything they made was delicious.
Anyhow, I do understand fraud happens frequently there, but seriously, all they have to do, is look at our phone records, our pictures (which btw we were in no way "uncomfortable" together, his friends joked that our ceremony video would have to be rated 18 and over for all the kissing, he could not keep his hands off of me), our chats and emails, letters from family and friends... We are in love ... This seperation has made us both just sick... literally sick. The night before I left, his family had a huge party, everyone waiting for our taxi to casa to arrive, everyone wanting to steal a few last moments with me... the whole night my sweetie was trying so hard to smile instead of cry until finally, 4 hours before time to go, he made apologies to everyone there, took me to our room, locked us in, grabbed me and just cried himself sick. He said "I'm sorry hobi, but this is the last of my time with you for I don't know how long, and I can't share it with anyone."
Anyhow, sorry to ramble, but sometimes on here, I hear and read so much focus about the infamous "fraud in morocco" that it seems fitting to share some of the real emotion, sharing, caring and heartbreak, of true love. It is great to know there are lovers out there living the happy ever after part like you.
soul_encounterNot TellingMorocco2006-06-26 08:33:00
Middle East and North AfricaNontraditional Fiance

Give them as much evidence as you can regarding his relationship with your children. That really (I believe) made a HUGE difference in our case. I was a single mom of a 2 year old. We had spent almost 2 months living in Morocco (i was a student so it was a lot easier to do that). But we had a lot of pictures of ALL of us together. (me, my son, and husband) as well as family pictures with all of his family. The CO did ask him about my son, how old he was, what his name was, even about the custody arrangement. He said she spent more time talking about my son than our relationship. I think he was able to prove not only did WE have a strong relationship but also that my son was a very real and valid part of the relationship. I think it's so great that your kids do spend time talking to and sending him mail -- MAKE SURE THE CO KNOWS THAT!!!!

Kerewin is right. I think the problem in a lot of the cases coming out of NA/ME is not that there isn't proof or that we don't want to give it to the CO's but that they won't even look at or consider it. I really don't think this is legal (but nowadays they make law by decree it seems)- but what can we do about it? How do we get around it? I wish you the best of luck with your interview and with your new family!



Thanks for that tip, I was hoping my fiances relationship with the children would be significant to them. Mainly because, it is not just me and my fiance, we are a family here and the children love him so much and can't wait for him to be with us. I would hate further emotional stress over this seperation for them moreso than me. My youngest has a whole list of places and things she wants to do with him. I have sent him copies of their school grades and awards, He IS just so very much a part of our lives. We discuss matters with the children and their upbringing and how to handle certain situations before I take any action on them now. We all need him with us so much.


I'm considering leaving VJ... this is a bunch of #######.


I hope you don't leave Icey, you have a good heart and always have good advice. Its just so hard to hear people tell us that we didn't do it right. These people just like stirring the Sh#$. We would all be wise to realize that these people talk out of the a$$e$ and to not even respond.

Now, for the original poster. A 3 year age difference isn't going to be a problem. I know of someone that has an 8 year difference and her husband didn't even have to go through the AR. It is wise though to recognize all of the red flags you do have and be prepared to show it. I do agree with (can't remember who) the person who said that using the unconventional approach won't help. They don't care if he isn't traditional, and it might appear you are trying to hard. You have to play the game their way. Just go prepared and I am sure all will be fine Incha Allah.



The last thing I want is to raise more unecessary questions... but the truth is, both of our rebel want to change the world attitudes was one of the common personality traits that drew us together...lol He was way too liberal and open for his culture and I am way to strict, uptight and conservative for my american female role...lol Oddly somehow we fit just right together in that middle ground. Thanks for the advice ladies, it is great to hear from you all...
And all of you who are still waiting due to messed up interviews in casa... God be with you Even imagining that pain and stress is hurting me now.
soul_encounterNot TellingMorocco2006-06-23 06:01:00
Middle East and North AfricaNontraditional Fiance

Hmmm...I can understand the frustration, fear, worry, unsettledness you are experiencing as you enter into the critical waiting/interview time. But honestly, I don't think the proposed plan will make any difference - I would really hate for you two to spend a lot of time on this and have them not care. If I were you I would focus on how much you two know and care about each other. Showing them pictures, and giving solid evidence of your relationship and strong commitment. Does your fiance speak English? If not, or not really well that is something he should really be working on and developing because it makes a difference. Those people who end up on AR are there for security checks, on their names. Whether or not they are a "traditional" Moroccan or not is not in question - and it could work against you. They could be more suspicious because he has chosen to "rebel or be outside of the norm". By husband is a very traditional Moroccan (aside from the fact he married me!), but he is also young and has adopted different ways than even his older brothers have. We didn't have ANY problems in our interview and recieved our visa the next day. It's not hopeless. There are only a few on here who have had really prolonged waits on AR- most eventually get the visas in a few weeks after being put on.

I'm playing the devil's advocate here, and while the practices of the CO's and the American government towards Arab and Muslim (Americans!) let alone visa-seekers is discriminative, racist, and down right anti-American (equality for all people...hmmm...) it is legal. The United States doesn't have to let any immigrants come in and has every right to seek for the safety, protection, and sovereignty of the United States. And that's what they argue. Unless we plan to run for the Senate or Presidency there's not a whole lot we can do to change it. But to accept it and prepare ourselves to do everything we can to be with our loved ones. The racism/ discrimination doesn't get any better once they are here - just to prepare you!

As I said I'm not trying to discourage you, or take the side of the USCIS because honestly I think they are morons that don't know how to properly do their job 95% of the time. I just don't want you to spend the time and be prepared to have your plan work. Instead prepare to show them how much you love and care about each other and how real your relationship is. If he spent all the time discussing how different he is than normal they might think your relaitonship is bogus and he's looking for a green card. This really is a game of chance. Even the strongest cases get scrutinized. I wish you the best of luck and please don't take my comments offensively - I just want to prepare you!


I took no offense at your honesty, you were very kind and thanks for the advice. I am preparing everything I can think of, not just the above stated focus really. We have polaroids and studio pics of our time together and travel, video footage of the engagement party, over 1000 pages of a years worth of messenger archives, cell phone records for the past year and half, monthly internet phone records, letters and cards the children and I have sent to him weekly, letters from 3 employers here willing to give him a job, letters from his friends and family there mine here supporting us and who were with us in our time together, all travel tickets and receipts, passport copies, all emails from either of us copied and saved (we spend an hour a night on the net together, he then spends an hour with the children playing games with them and then calls my cell for another hour night to talk me into sleepy oblivion...lol And he speaks, reads and writes english fluently. He took a class after we met just to better understand me.
I know chance plays a huge part in this, but I have heard the age and previous divorce issues were pretty much always scrutinized in interview, I know our age isn't so great and I know his answer to the divorce question is simple "If my mother is deserving of love again after 2 marriages, why not my fiance?"
It is very good to hear your interview went relatively smoothly. I love the happy ending stories.
Honestly, when I met my sweetie, neither of us was looking to fall in love. We were just chat buddys passing time and learning from each others experience and culture. Even after an "attraction" grew, we didn't how to handle it. He couldn't understand why I couldn't just pack up my kids and move there to his home. After all he is the man, the provider (not totally untraditional). I did consider and check into it, but with my divorce and custody agreement, we couldn't make it work and have me keep custody of my children. Only then did he understand my dilemna and agree to come here if it were the only way for us to be together. Still, it took me one year to get up the courage to go and actually meet and spend time in person with him... lol
It all comes down to making the CO's see us as "people" "individuals" ... get to know us our history, and not just 2 names on a few pieces of paper.


There has been a lot of talk and concern about the "Moroccan Embassy" and their all too often denials of petitions based on age, cultural or traditional differences. I feel for and agree with you ladies whose fiances/petitions have been treated unfairly. I can not imagine the heartbreak or stress, but I like others not at that interview yet am sitting here wondering how best to avoid being in that situation.

The thing that erks me the most in these cases is how they stereotype our guys as predispositioned to this or that. Certainly it is predjudiced or even racism at best. Having a strong case addressing your red flags as some have suggested is definately a good thing, but as others have pointed out, the proof doesn't always have a chance to be presented.

I can't say our strategy will work, as it has not yet been tried, but here is my plan. First things, one of the reasons I love my fiance and became so close to him, is because he is "nontraditional" and even considered a "rebel" by some of the older traditional people in his country. I could relate to that, because it has always been a part of my personality too. Yes we have a 3 year age difference, but honestly, we had no idea of that in the first. It didn't come up in conversation until much later in our talks, which i do have all archived and highlighted "interesting" points. My fiance is "muslim" but really, let's think of that, did he have a choice? Does he even know of any other religious alternatives or could he choose to be anything but? No... you are whatever you are born into in that country and nothing else is ever allowed to be presented. (Please any muslim friends here, do not take offense, I respect ALL religious "choices" and honor anyones choice, that is not the issue here) I see in my fiance, many things that lead me to believe, had he ever had a choice, it may not have been that one. He is always critisiced for wearing his hair untraditionally long, his grandma teases "it is pretty like a girls", he never goes to mosgue, does not say the prayers and doesn't even know the methods of washing before prayers. He does ocassionally drink, he smokes, and he talks of things like choice in religion, beliefs etc. He was upset his half sister never got a "choice" in who she was to marry and felt it totally unjust going on and on about "these "old" ways of thinking". His mother, whom I met love and adore, has been divorced twice, and is pursuing marriage again even at an age of more than 50. (I am divorced twice too) He was raised by his uncle who conceived his first child out of wedlock with a "girlfriend" and the uncle always supported the child. Heck, the childs mother even found a husband in Morocco to marry her after conceiving and giving birth to an illegitimate child. The uncle later married, is still married to the same woman now has 4 grown children and 2 daughters in their late teens early twentys one of which was recently "proposed" to in the traditional way by a young mans male family member, and they told their daughter "it is your choice" and allowed her to refuse him.

I could go on and on about the nontraditional family and state of mind my sweetie comes from, and what evidence I have seen with my own eyes how not "ALL" moroccans are one way or another. My plan is is to focus on his nontraditional family and actions and hopefully show he can not be put into a stereotype. He is a unique person, all his own, an individual, not some role others may think of.
I just hope in the COs determinations, they can see the men for who they are...


If you really want a visa out of that Consulate...show him the strength of your relationship. Have him petition for you...go there and live for 6-12 months. If your relationship survives this, then Im sure that the Consulate would also be more inclined to grant a visa.

You need something more than "I met him in a AOL chat room, and I went and visited for 10 days, and now Im madly in love". They may believe you, but they wont believe him.

Homeland Security cannot tell the DOS to grant a visa...they dont have the authority. Their job is to determine that you submitted a valid petition. It is the DOS job to determine the validity of a relationship. The US has been burned so many time on fradulent marriage visas, that now they take their time. What do you think the 2 year conditional status is all about??...its to weed out the fradulent visa seekers.

You are dealing with a country and a culture where the US takes extra effort. You have to fight them on their own ground.

Good luck.
Someday the ladies in the other thread will stop complaining and do something to demonstrate the validity of their relationship.

FOXXXXX



If I wanted to can my career and job and leave my kids behind, sure, moving there for a 6 - 12 months, might be an option. The job ... ok... hard, but i could do it, the kids no way. We checked into that, living there in his home, was our first choice.
soul_encounterNot TellingMorocco2006-06-22 18:07:00
Middle East and North AfricaNontraditional Fiance
There has been a lot of talk and concern about the "Moroccan Embassy" and their all too often denials of petitions based on age, cultural or traditional differences. I feel for and agree with you ladies whose fiances/petitions have been treated unfairly. I can not imagine the heartbreak or stress, but I like others not at that interview yet am sitting here wondering how best to avoid being in that situation.

The thing that erks me the most in these cases is how they stereotype our guys as predispositioned to this or that. Certainly it is predjudiced or even racism at best. Having a strong case addressing your red flags as some have suggested is definately a good thing, but as others have pointed out, the proof doesn't always have a chance to be presented.

I can't say our strategy will work, as it has not yet been tried, but here is my plan. First things, one of the reasons I love my fiance and became so close to him, is because he is "nontraditional" and even considered a "rebel" by some of the older traditional people in his country. I could relate to that, because it has always been a part of my personality too. Yes we have a 3 year age difference, but honestly, we had no idea of that in the first. It didn't come up in conversation until much later in our talks, which i do have all archived and highlighted "interesting" points. My fiance is "muslim" but really, let's think of that, did he have a choice? Does he even know of any other religious alternatives or could he choose to be anything but? No... you are whatever you are born into in that country and nothing else is ever allowed to be presented. (Please any muslim friends here, do not take offense, I respect ALL religious "choices" and honor anyones choice, that is not the issue here) I see in my fiance, many things that lead me to believe, had he ever had a choice, it may not have been that one. He is always critisiced for wearing his hair untraditionally long, his grandma teases "it is pretty like a girls", he never goes to mosgue, does not say the prayers and doesn't even know the methods of washing before prayers. He does ocassionally drink, he smokes, and he talks of things like choice in religion, beliefs etc. He was upset his half sister never got a "choice" in who she was to marry and felt it totally unjust going on and on about "these "old" ways of thinking". His mother, whom I met love and adore, has been divorced twice, and is pursuing marriage again even at an age of more than 50. (I am divorced twice too) He was raised by his uncle who conceived his first child out of wedlock with a "girlfriend" and the uncle always supported the child. Heck, the childs mother even found a husband in Morocco to marry her after conceiving and giving birth to an illegitimate child. The uncle later married, is still married to the same woman now has 4 grown children and 2 daughters in their late teens early twentys one of which was recently "proposed" to in the traditional way by a young mans male family member, and they told their daughter "it is your choice" and allowed her to refuse him.

I could go on and on about the nontraditional family and state of mind my sweetie comes from, and what evidence I have seen with my own eyes how not "ALL" moroccans are one way or another. My plan is is to focus on his nontraditional family and actions and hopefully show he can not be put into a stereotype. He is a unique person, all his own, an individual, not some role others may think of.
I just hope in the COs determinations, they can see the men for who they are...
soul_encounterNot TellingMorocco2006-06-22 06:39:00