Forum	Title	Content	Member	Sex	Country	Date/Time
Middle East and North Africa	For the Members	Well guys, the weekend is coming up, again.....	missmissy	Female	Denmark	2009-01-29 15:20:00
Middle East and North Africa	faithful advice needed	QUOTE (charles! @ Feb 5 2009, 07:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (newlife usa @ Feb 5 2009, 07:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> it is me again. my other topics got deleted and i dont know why? when some american women write about somthing or man cheated on her all of you support her. but cause i am middle eastern man , they delete my topics you don't know why it was deleted and you think it's because you're from mena? lemme refresh your memory: "anyway soon i will post the vedeo with pics of her and her ex and full name of both of them . i am sure some poeple her wants to see it" the above statement by you is a violation of the terms of service as it infringes upon her privacy. don't try to play it off like you are innocent nor try the race card just because you are from the middle east Is this your job as a moderator? Sucks to be you and have to read all of this, in my opinion. This isn't even entertaining like some stuff....thanks for deleting the last thread and hopefully this one won't go on and on.	missmissy	Female	Denmark	2009-02-06 02:55:00
Middle East and North Africa	regarding previous post on the flip side	QUOTE (amal @ Feb 11 2009, 11:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (allousa @ Feb 11 2009, 11:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (missmissy @ Feb 11 2009, 12:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Did somebody say #######? Everytime I see reference to "#######", I immediately think of the Family Guy episode where Peg was going to start teaching a sex ed class and should couldn't bring herself to say the word "#######" and she started saying.... Happiness...Hapee-ness....Ha-####### Did anyone else see that???? OMG!!!! Maybe I'm just weird??? This reminded me of the "king of the hill" episode where peggy was gonna teach a sex ed class and couldn't say #######....then hank hears her while he's outside with the boys screaming "vaaaagiiiiiinaaaa" (once she could say it of course) and he comes in and asks why she's screaming obscenities for the whole neighborhood to hear ... lol... *sigh* good times, good times I don't know why, but everytime I see one of these threads and then someone says #######, it makes me giggle....	missmissy	Female	Denmark	2009-02-11 13:55:00
Middle East and North Africa	regarding previous post on the flip side	QUOTE (notime4haterz @ Feb 11 2009, 10:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> A few weeks ago crazyinegypt told us that her husband's friend had a wife that abused him and treated him like a caged animal...or something to that effect. Do you all remember now? This was before the other issue with newlife guy. She even hinted that it was someone that posted on VJ. Well obviously that someone is oneder. So she's trying to attack crazyinegypt back now, but at the same time pretending to NOT be the same lady crazyinegypt was talking about. Get it? Did somebody say #######?	missmissy	Female	Denmark	2009-02-11 12:38:00
Middle East and North Africa	problems with muslim spouse?	QUOTE (pushbrk @ Dec 25 2008, 11:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Zayd @ Dec 25 2008, 08:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Y_habibitk @ Dec 25 2008, 11:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I think its so interesting that my english copy clearly says "do not marry unbelieving women,until they believe: a slave woman...... sorry for keeping the off topic going What you are mentioning is from the beginning of the verse. The translation of the meaning of the whole verse is "And do not marry Al-Mushrikaat (fem. idolatresses, etc.) till they believe (worship Allaah Alone). And indeed a slave woman who believes is better than a (free) Mushrikah (idolatress, etc.), even though she pleases you. And give not (your daughters) in marriage to Al-Mushrikoon till they believe (in Allaah Alone) and verily, a believing slave is better than a (free) Mushrik (masc. idolater, etc.), even though he pleases you. Those (Al-Mushrikoon) invite you to the Fire, but Allaah invites (you) to Paradise and Forgiveness by His Leave, and makes His Ayaat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) clear to mankind that they may remember" The part of the verse I mentioned is in the middle. Concerning women marrying non-Muslims, ibn Qudaamah (one of the biggest scholars of Islaam) said that there is scholarly consensus on the issue that it is forbidden. So, I can't resist asking if in Islam the ultimate authority for interpreting scripture is "scholarly consensus". If so, has such consensus varied over time? If so, how does one know which consensus was the correct consensus? I'm being neither flippant or disrespectful. It's just the thoughts that come to me after reading your explanation. I agree.	missmissy	Female	Denmark	2009-02-19 13:13:00
Middle East and North Africa	The MENA "Let's discuss religion and our own personal belief" thread	QUOTE (Laura and Ali @ May 5 2009, 04:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (SP&JM @ May 5 2009, 04:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Laura and Ali @ May 5 2009, 11:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (estadia @ May 5 2009, 09:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ok this may sound like a stupid question but i really would like to know the answer, what is it that separates the different sectors of Christianity as in, Catholic, Lutheran, Baptist, Assembly of God, Jehovah witness, im sure there are more but thats the ones i can remember at this time. sara This is a great question!!! I will again answer to the best of my knowledge based on the church I attend. The one thing to keep in mind with this question is that we all see our church as being the right one. So, I'm not saying anyone who isn't Lutheran is wrong, I'm just saying this is my personal belief... The two that I have the most knowledge on is Catholic vs. Lutheran. I know that there are other differences between the other protestant religions but unfortunately I'm not exactly sure what they are. Lutheranism is very similar to Catholocism in many ways. However, Lutherans don't believe in indulgences. Indulgences are how Catholics (both alive and in purgatory) can pay for their sins. Lutherans believe that the only one who can forgive sins is God, not a priest. Also, Lutherans do not put as much faith in Saints as Catholics, for example.. many Catholics will wear their Saint Alexander (I think) who is the patron Saint of travel when they travel for protection. Also, Lutherans do not believe they have to attend confession with a priest to be absolved. Confessing your sins to God is salvation. I would suggest reading Martin Luther's 99 thesis which are the differences between the Catholic church and the Lutheran Church. Lutherans believe in original sin and the need for baptism. Now that being said, there are two types of Lutherans.. ELCA and Missouri Synod. ELCA is a more relaxed version in my opinion and they also allow women to be Pastors and heads of the Church. My chuch is Missouri Synod and does not believe in woman being Pastors or heads of the Church. It is mentioned many times in the bible that the man is the head of the house and the church. However, I have many friends who are ELCA lutheran and I have attended services and weddings with woman Pastors and I can definitely respect that in an ELCA church. I took to long writing and some of this has already been said. Oh well, I don't want to go back and rewrite it - so sorry for any repeat info. I'm a Catholic and spent a lot of time in Catholic schools...so I'll try to respond/add on to some of this from the teachings I've received. I'm pretty sure there aren't indulgences anymore. The modern Church doesn't let people pay money for forgiveness. I suppose it might be some kind of penance if you had stolen money from someone to pay it back, but paying directly to the Church? The only thing I've ever done as penance is pray... Catholics do believe that the route to understanding and coming to Christ is through the Church. Througout the Old and New Testament there are references to the Church as the bride of Christ. We believe that He is only fully revealed through the teachings of the Church. We also believe in original sin and the necessity of Baptism. One of the common misconceptions is that Catholics worship saints and Mary. You can pray to a saint or to Mary (or to your dead Grandma) if you want but with the understanding that this person will intercede for you - basically speak to God on your behalf, take up your cause as it were... Another huge difference is the host. Catholics believe that the bread and wine of Holy Eucharist are literally the body and blood of Christ after Transubstantiation (through the Consecration by the priest). Any leftover communion wafers are not thrown away. They are either used at another mass or eaten by a priest (not at the mass). That's also why we kneel towards the Tabernacle (where the host is kept) - we believe that Christ is literally present in the bread. Non-Catholic Christians are not allowed to recieve Holy Communion (although they are always welcome at a Mass) because they do not believe that the host is Christ. Other differences. Catholics make the sign of the Cross and kneel in the Mass (unless there is some physical reason they cannot). Crosses in Christian Churches do not have Jesus...Catholic Churches all have crucifixes. Reconciliation/Confession is a big difference (as stated above by Laura). The format of the Mass is usually very rigid and formal to someone who is not Catholic and not used to it (the opinion of a Baptist friend). I'm sure I'll think of more things later. I apologize for any inaccuracies regarding the Protestant faith. Samantha P.S. The Immaculate Conception is the conception of Mary without sin, not the virgin conception of Jesus. You can bet that question was on any test I had regarding Catholic doctrine I agree with what you wrote Samantha, I apologize if I wasn't clear though on one point. I know Catholics do not actually worship the saints but are able to pray to them for help. The difference with Lutherans is that we believe that by praying we already have the ear of God. Also, Missouri Synod Lutherans believe that the wafer and wine becoming the body and blood of Christ. In Missouri Synod, if you are not baptised and confirmed into the church you cannot take communion. If you are not a member of the church you must speak with the Pastor prior to the service so you can take the communion. When the service is done, if there is any leftover wafer's and wine they are not just thrown away either. There is a special prayer that is said in order to not dispose of the body and blood of Christ. Missouri synod and Catholics are extremely similar in our services.. they are both rigid and generally don't include progressive music, like christian rock music. That was a really great and informative post Samantha! It's the same with Episcopalians and Anglican Church's. It has been interesting to read all of this. I have had questions about the Muslim faith and wanted to ask but was too scared of offending someone. Thanks ladies, this is very, very good.	missmissy	Female	Denmark	2009-05-05 17:03:00
Middle East and North Africa	Sudden CHANGE!!! What do I do!?	I agree with you and I disagree with you. It is apples and oranges, but it's still part of the same fruit salad. We've all had to go through it. She will be dealing with the issues of a controlling spouse on a daily basis, in addition to everything else I've described. I wanted to make a point - a marriage is very hard work, marriage to a foreign spouse is, IMO even harder and the hard work never stops. Emily has a very long road ahead of her if she goes forward with this. Since the posts warning her to run away weren't working, I wanted to give her something else to think about. Dealing with the annoyances of your spouse, and vice versa, on a daily basis can not be compared to the issue of wanting to control a spouse and take away her means of communicating with the world. All that you wrote is valid, but I don't think it's applicable to OP's situation. Apples & oranges.	missmissy	Female	Denmark	2011-10-31 10:27:00
Middle East and North Africa	Sudden CHANGE!!! What do I do!?	Emily, In your original post you asked "What do I do"? What do you do?? You wait! I want to add my two cents on how difficult marriage to a foreign born fiance can be, no matter where he is from. Marriage is hard. Long distance relationships are hard. We are happily married and things good, but it was HARD. Before we were married, all of our time spent together was vacation. We traveled a lot and it was fun and sexy and thrilling. We were always on our best behavior because we knew our time was limited. I remember gushing to anyone that would listen to me about how wonderful life would be once he was here...if he was just here, life would be perfect! I was going to be the best wife ever, blah, blah, blah.....Once he was here permanently it quickly became obvious how little we really knew each other and little we were prepared for "real life." I don't know about anyone else, but our new life together wasn't rainbows and unicorns all of the time. When he arrived here, I had to learn how to share everythig. I learned he had a lot of irritating habits that I was going to have to get used to AND I learned about all of MY irritating habits too. It wasn't MY house anymore, it was OURS (and to be completely honest, learning we/ours was really hard for me), I had someone to call if I was going to be late, I spent a lot of time explaining and answering questions about anything and everything, I had someone that wanted to go to the grocery with me and "help"..... I think we both walked on egg-shells for a long time and that just delayed the process. There were times when I wished he would go so I could miss him again and get "that feeling" back.....it was such a big adjustment for both of us and it wasn't fun, and the sexy part...forget about it! And, even though Lars spoke flawless English - I learned he doesn't really speak "southern" and that's been interesting. We've been together since 2006 and married since 2009 and it was just in these last 8 months or so we started to feel "normal" again. Lars is 8 years older than I am, we are both over 50 (me, barely!), we have both lived away from our families and friends before and have been on our own for many years before we married. We have both been married before and our children are grown. Your fiance is 25, you are 40 - he is 15 years younger than you, has never lived away from his home, family or friends and has never been married before. He is not deaf and I assume he has never traveled to the United States before. This would be a very difficult transition for anyone. If I were you, I'd wait at least another year and try to have another visit or two with him and you two get to know each other a little better.	missmissy	Female	Denmark	2011-10-31 08:47:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Let's support Paris Heart	Hi Beth! Waiting to hear the good news!	missmissy	Female	Denmark	2009-10-28 07:38:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Our Attorney	I interviewed 3 different visa attorneys and then, after we found this website, we decided to do this ourselves. I wanted our K1 application to be as important to our lawyer as it was to us, and that just wasn't going to happen. I am glad we decided to save our money and do this ourselves.	missmissy	Female	Denmark	2008-11-28 08:11:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Butterflies!	Good luck! Im mailing our tomorrow!	missmissy	Female	Denmark	2008-12-15 17:12:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Denied Entry - Will I-601 be needed	Thank you all! I am so relieved! Throwing that form away right now!!	missmissy	Female	Denmark	2008-12-19 21:01:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Denied Entry - Will I-601 be needed	I am sure this question has been asked and answered before but I can't find anything that is really helpful. In October my SO was denied entry to the U.S. His passport was stamped and then the stamp was crossed out and handwritten "stamped in error" was written in it. I have a copy of the I-877 that he was given while he was in custody of CBP. it was determined that he had insignificant ties to Denmark. My question is this - are we going to have to pay $545 and file the I-601 and if so, exactly when and where do we file this? Any help will be appreciated and sorry if this has been asked and answered.	missmissy	Female	Denmark	2008-12-19 19:29:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	I-129F at VSC? Notice how it's only CSC folks writing "OMG approved in 30 days?"	We have been living apart now for over 6 months and it's tough but when I come here and read that others have been living apart for.....YEARS, I have to stop complaning and just get through this. I am a little older than most of you and I have learned, the hard way, complaining about how things are never helps. I do it sometimes, but it usually makes me feel worse. I have filed at the VSC too.....I have noticed the times keep getting pushed back....complaining is just going to make us feel worse and make the time go by slower. IMHO - get busy doing something and quit dwelling on it. Just saying.....	missmissy	Female	Denmark	2009-04-02 09:04:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Ok Im really extremely confused!	Maybe I missed something....where does the boyfriend live?	missmissy	Female	Denmark	2009-04-09 14:00:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Visiting the US with K-1 pending, had trouble entering before...	I don't want to be argumentative here, but.....before I filed our application, I interviewed THREE immigration lawyers and ended up not using any of them. Almost all of the information that each one gave me was flawed, inflammatory and, sometimes just downright contrary to what the law actually is. I think the most you will be out is the cost of the ticket and the aggravation if you are denied entry. Lars was denied entry last October because he had been here so long before then, so now I travel to Copenhagen until our application is approved.	missmissy	Female	Denmark	2009-04-19 18:12:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Visiting the US with K-1 pending, had trouble entering before...	QUOTE (TruLuv @ Apr 19 2009, 04:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Philosykos @ Apr 19 2009, 10:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I don't dare to visit my fiancé in the US while K-1 is in process. The main reason for that is that I, too, get sent into "secondary inspection" every time I enter the US, because I have a student visa in my passport that still has a valid date, but is void as I finished my degree. I've even been bringing my graduation certificate on my last trip, but they still thought it was suspicious that I was entering on the visa waiver program. Last time they also questioned me about my boyfriend and whether we intended to get married on this trip... It was a short interrogation, fortunately, as I must have been pretty convincing regarding the fact that I had a job in Germany and would certainly return after a ten-day stay. Once the K-1 is filed for, it should be even more obvious to the officers that one is not going to get married on the VWP, given that it would be virtually impossible to claim that one wasn't planning to get married. It is really ridiculous that they even suspect any such intent. As if illegal immigration was any option for someone from a VWP country, especially with higher education! The jobs that are interesting to me could never be illegal. All that said, I personally won't risk visiting during this phase. You never know with whom you will be dealing at POE. I am with you. Is it really worth the risk? All I am saying is that there is no way I would risk it. Why can't your finace come visit you instead? Also the story I told was not an urban legend. My LAWYER told me not to take the chance. I am going to trust an immigration attorney over anything that is said on this site no matter how helpful I find discussing things with you all.	missmissy	Female	Denmark	2009-04-19 18:05:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	K1 visa for Swedish fiance	QUOTE (yehaww @ Apr 28 2009, 09:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE No - you need to send in more than just the I-129F and check! You really should not use the K-1 to "test" out to see if you want to get married. You are suppose to use it to get married. If she can visit on the VWP - use that - they give you 90 days, just like the K-1. And it will not cost you much if she decides not to marry you.... I did read the General K1 guide, but hadn't seen that specific link. Thanks. I've gone through this in another thread. We've known each other for 2 years and have visited each other regularly and love each other. We've been together for, maybe, 8 3 week "vacations", We think we want to get married, but honestly, we want to live together first. You can only learn so much about a person through short 3 week visits, e-mails and phone conversations. I would never marry someone here in the US without living with them first, and this situation is no different. So what we want to do is do a trial live-together scenario and if it works out, get married. So the 2 options, as I see it, are have her come on the VWP and if we decide after a few months to marry, just propose to her and file for an AOS(this was advice from an immigration attorney). People on this board have told me that this is illegal and I should go the K1 route. Now I'm here at the K1 forum and people are telling me that it's a dumb idea. The predicament we're in is that for her to come here for 3 months, she has to quit her job. She was laid off last year and finally got another job a few months ago, but she hasn't been there long enough to qualify for any sort of extended leave, where they'll hold her job for her. So for her to just come for a visit, and then have to go back and try to find another job while we wait another 6 months for a K1, then have to quit THAT job, if she can even find another one, to come back here just sounds like a huge hassle. And maybe not even a financially viable one for her. So we want to be able to marry and stay together at the point of the 3 month visit. We're just so tired of these sporadic visits. That is why I'm considering doing the K1 first. Having her visit, marrying, then sending her back for 6 months could potentially mean that she's out of work for 9 months or more. Jobs are as scarce in Sweden as they are here. So when she makes the decision to leave her job, we can't take it lightly, we need to act on it if we're going to get married. So that's why I'm using the K1 to "test" things out. I'm using the K1 just like a VWP, except that with a K1 I can marry her and keep her here. We're nervous that marrying on the VWP visit would bring up red flags if they found out she left her job behind. Even though nothing is set in stone as far as getting married when she comes here on the VWP. It seems silly. If she just came over for another visit, like she has in the past, and I popped the question, it would all be perfectly legal, no? We could marry and adjust her status. But the fact that we've discussed the idea of getting married all of a sudden makes it illegal? Who hasn't discussed marriage after a 2 year relationship? And just because she's coming for 3 months doesn't mean that we will definitely get married, even though it's a definite possibility. Sorry, I'm just frustrated with all of this. With all the illegals walking around this country, I hate that it's this hard to get my girl over here. In my opinion - you probably don't need to think about getting married right now. Being tired and frustrated by sporadic visits isn't really a good enough reason (again, in my opinion) for marriage. I get the feeling that you have way too many unanswered questions and doubts about that step anyway. I encourage you to try to continue on as you have been for a while longer or save enough money so that one of you can make the move to see how things will work out. In 2007 I was in a similar situation to you - we were also tired of the visits every few months, so I left my job and family here and we moved to Sweden for a year. I am glad we took the time to live together and get to know each other before we decided to marry. We we were financially able to make the move. If I were you, with the questions that you have, I would not spend the money or the time on a K1 right now. Save up and either travel together or make plans for one of you to take a few months off to visit the other WITHOUT the pressure or expense of a K1 hanging over your heads. Then, if you do make the decision to go forward it will truly be because you want to. I agree with Bobby - save the money and use the VWP.	missmissy	Female	Denmark	2009-04-29 09:16:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	help, what do i do???	QUOTE (daboyz @ May 2 2009, 11:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (rebeccajo @ May 2 2009, 11:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Write less................. Very helpful. You can put it on a separate piece of paper and attach it. I have to agree with you. The only bad question is the one that you don't ask. The same thing happened to me with all of the little + everywhere. I'm glad you posted this question, I wanted to when I started filling out the forms, I was just lucky enough to have this question answered for me by someone I know that told me it was okay to attach a separate piece of paper. When we first got started with all of this paperwork I told everyone that I felt like this was the most important piece of paper in my life and I stressed over every little thing and posted a million questions. Everyone was helpful. Good luck!	missmissy	Female	Denmark	2009-05-02 13:26:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Hi	welcome!	missmissy	Female	Denmark	2009-05-27 17:23:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Infopass Experience	I'm real disappointed for you! Sorry that you didn't get any answers. Keep the faith!	missmissy	Female	Denmark	2009-06-04 16:22:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	how many people cancel their petition...more info inside...	QUOTE (Road 2 Peace Arch @ Jun 14 2009, 10:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (emmaline_g @ Jun 14 2009, 08:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> msu17 You're much more articulate than I am. That is what I would have liked to say, but from my fingers it came out differently. First of all, Alla really does sound very sweet. Second of all, Gary's statements really did get a rise out of me whether they were intended to be humorous or not. I'm not sure because I'm not familiar with everyone's "style" on here yet. Even if they were meant to be taken "with a grain of salt" they belie an insulting viewpoint (to me). But it's not an idea unique to Gary and Alla, I have seen this attitude across the boards from many posters and I guess I just responded to this thread. I think what bothers me the most is that AMERICAN men feel they are entitled to bash and generalize AMERICAN women--but all the "American traits" they are complaining about in women do not apply to men sometimes as well? So American girls are frumpy cows and American men are perfect? And that is the be-all, end-all? Maybe I'm just naive but it makes me sad to see Americans bashing each other or acting superior. Once again I probably said something wrong because I'm not very good at using forums but I was just sharing my opinion since everyone else can share theirs. I knew this thread was going to be a good read when I saw Gary's post at the begining so +1 for Gary, I couldn't agree more with him. As far as "most American men feel they are entitled to bash and genearlize AMERICAN women", well yes, we are entitled. While its probably not fair to generalize, as it is in any discussion of politics, religon, money, women etc., we "AMERICAN men" have been on the recieving end of the AMERICAN woman's sense of entitlement and "Man Bashing" for the past 30+ years. Most of us are tired of it and have simply chosen to move on with women from other countries vs. the US. For a lot of us, it's a result of having lived and worked outside of the US and understanding what other cultures (and the women of those cultures) have to offer us. I know there are many fine women in the US to choose from but I choose not too. And we all thank you for it!	missmissy	Female	Denmark	2009-06-14 22:19:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	how many people cancel their petition...more info inside...	QUOTE (emmaline_g @ Jun 14 2009, 08:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> msu17 You're much more articulate than I am. That is what I would have liked to say, but from my fingers it came out differently. First of all, Alla really does sound very sweet. Second of all, Gary's statements really did get a rise out of me whether they were intended to be humorous or not. I'm not sure because I'm not familiar with everyone's "style" on here yet. Even if they were meant to be taken "with a grain of salt" they belie an insulting viewpoint (to me). But it's not an idea unique to Gary and Alla, I have seen this attitude across the boards from many posters and I guess I just responded to this thread. I think what bothers me the most is that AMERICAN men feel they are entitled to bash and generalize AMERICAN women--but all the "American traits" they are complaining about in women do not apply to men sometimes as well? So American girls are frumpy cows and American men are perfect? And that is the be-all, end-all? Maybe I'm just naive but it makes me sad to see Americans bashing each other or acting superior. Once again I probably said something wrong because I'm not very good at using forums but I was just sharing my opinion since everyone else can share theirs. I had to work so I missed out on the rest of the story with this topic but I totally agree with what you have written. That is what had prompted me to post the ad for my ex-husband months ago. I got so tired of some of the men here talking about how American women are either lazy and won't work and we are fat OR we are super-charged bitches, nagging them to work harder to provide more for us AND we have bigger #######'s than they do! I don't think any of us made a conscious decision to go the International House of Spouses to find someone new because we found American men/women distasteful. I happened to find a wonderful Danish man and fell in love but I don't think all Danish men are better than any other....just the one I have! I think Gary was trying to be ironic and sarcastic and used exagerrated examples to make a point and it just didn't go over well.	missmissy	Female	Denmark	2009-06-14 22:07:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	how many people cancel their petition...more info inside...	QUOTE (Gary and Alla @ Jun 14 2009, 04:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Never mind. Tallcoolone can have him. Sounds like an American woman with a #######...well, and a bass boat, but I already have a #######, I just need a bigger BOAT. No puns intended	missmissy	Female	Denmark	2009-06-14 21:55:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	how many people cancel their petition...more info inside...	QUOTE (Gary and Alla @ Jun 14 2009, 03:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (missmissy @ Jun 14 2009, 04:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (uscandual @ Jun 14 2009, 03:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (missmissy @ Jun 14 2009, 03:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Back in November, in response to a thread a lot like this one, I posted an ad for my ex-husband. Guess it's time to post it again. I don't believe in bashing anyone, american or otherwise and please remember, I posted this all in fun, as I do now. GOOD OLD SOUTHERN BOY (man) AVAILABLE AND READY FOR YOU! My exhusband is lonely and needs a new woman in his life! He is a little overweight (think cuddly teddy bear!), he's 54 (but, really a YOUNG 54) and he is a lot of fun. If you like Jesus, huntin, fishin, drinkin, gamblin and goin to see his mama on the weekends (not necessarily in that order), this is the man for you! His priorities are his church, his mama, his hunting club, his drinking buddies, his children and....yes indeed, there's room for you! He doesn't work but that just means he has more time for you when YOU get home from work. Really ladies, you don't know what you are missing..... PM me if you are interested. Serious inquiries only please! Funny (sad?) thing is ... there is no shortage of women who would consider your "ex", as described, to be a real "catch". Yeah, I keep hoping he finds someone. I was kind of thinking of hooking him up with tallcoolone, I bet they could teach each other a lot! But he is three times too old. Keep Tallcoolone out of this. Does he have a Bass boat? I don't need a greencard but I could use a bass boat. He's got everything but a job! Actually, he's a pretty nice guy, just not motivated enough to do more. He grew up in the same southern town, has had the same 12 friends his entire life and he's content right where he is. He would make a great companion for someone but you need to be independently wealthy and able to support him in the lifestyle that he became accustomed to when I had custody of him....	missmissy	Female	Denmark	2009-06-14 15:54:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	how many people cancel their petition...more info inside...	QUOTE (uscandual @ Jun 14 2009, 03:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (missmissy @ Jun 14 2009, 03:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Back in November, in response to a thread a lot like this one, I posted an ad for my ex-husband. Guess it's time to post it again. I don't believe in bashing anyone, american or otherwise and please remember, I posted this all in fun, as I do now. GOOD OLD SOUTHERN BOY (man) AVAILABLE AND READY FOR YOU! My exhusband is lonely and needs a new woman in his life! He is a little overweight (think cuddly teddy bear!), he's 54 (but, really a YOUNG 54) and he is a lot of fun. If you like Jesus, huntin, fishin, drinkin, gamblin and goin to see his mama on the weekends (not necessarily in that order), this is the man for you! His priorities are his church, his mama, his hunting club, his drinking buddies, his children and....yes indeed, there's room for you! He doesn't work but that just means he has more time for you when YOU get home from work. Really ladies, you don't know what you are missing..... PM me if you are interested. Serious inquiries only please! Funny (sad?) thing is ... there is no shortage of women who would consider your "ex", as described, to be a real "catch". Yeah, I keep hoping he finds someone. I was kind of thinking of hooking him up with tallcoolone, I bet they could teach each other a lot!	missmissy	Female	Denmark	2009-06-14 15:46:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	how many people cancel their petition...more info inside...	QUOTE (Gary and Alla @ Jun 14 2009, 03:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Missy. Look, if it doesn't work out with Alla and I, I might get back to you for his phone number. You made me laugh out loud!! Thanks, you redeemed yourself!	missmissy	Female	Denmark	2009-06-14 15:43:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	how many people cancel their petition...more info inside...	Back in November, in response to a thread a lot like this one, I posted an ad for my ex-husband. Guess it's time to post it again. I don't believe in bashing anyone, american or otherwise and please remember, I posted this all in fun, as I do now. GOOD OLD SOUTHERN BOY (man) AVAILABLE AND READY FOR YOU! My exhusband is lonely and needs a new woman in his life! He is a little overweight (think cuddly teddy bear!), he's 54 (but, really a YOUNG 54) and he is a lot of fun. If you like Jesus, huntin, fishin, drinkin, gamblin and goin to see his mama on the weekends (not necessarily in that order), this is the man for you! His priorities are his church, his mama, his hunting club, his drinking buddies, his children and....yes indeed, there's room for you! He doesn't work but that just means he has more time for you when YOU get home from work. Really ladies, you don't know what you are missing..... PM me if you are interested. Serious inquiries only please!	missmissy	Female	Denmark	2009-06-14 15:28:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	how many people cancel their petition...more info inside...	QUOTE (Gary and Alla @ Jun 14 2009, 01:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (emmaline_g @ Jun 14 2009, 12:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Gary and Alla @ Jun 14 2009, 05:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I promise. I will leave American women alone. And I am sure you never felt the need to critisize American men. That kinda goes without saying, but thanks anyway. I have no hesitation in saying my wife is a "prize possession", a very rare breed, and to me, the ONLY beautiful woman in the world. I am the luckiest man in the world and tell her so every day. Aren't you clever. Anyway I was just sharing my opinion about a school of thought that I see frequently on VJ--not specifically this thread, but I felt like it was going there--and wasn't directly targeting you. If anything the guy who said "I don't want another spoiled American brat" whose name I'm not going to bother looking for was the guy who irritated me. But then again so did the person who reacted to the baiting by calling Ukrainian women whores I was reacting to how many times on VJ I have seen American men whine about how crappy American women are. For example, this whole adorable conversation you're having about how "marrying an American girl" is a statistically horrible fate and you'd rather be gay.. L-O-L! I've never seen American women on here complain about American men in a similar way. Obviously none of the Americans in here are going to marry other Americans, whether by design or by coincidence, but it's still upsetting to see you talking about HALF of America the way you do, the female half. No, American women are not going to complain about American men like that. As I said, why would they? And while living in Ukraine absolutely cured me of the habit of American women (cold turkey!!) To me they just aren't even an option, so great and wonderful is the difference. I have never referred to anyone's wife as a "#######" it seems to upset you less than referring to women as "spoiled brats" Very strange. In my opinion, the two names are not the same. American women ARE, very often, spoiled brats. I could be really rude and say that American women are only good for rock throwing targets...but it isn't true. At the average dress size 14 in the USA, they aren't challenging enough for that! I thoroughly enjoyed living in a culture without feminism (to my wife "feminism" is high heels and stockings, manicures and pretty dresses) and rampant litigation for every conceivable mishap from a car accident to a broken nail. Why not go back? Well, we do! We still own property there. But, in our house anyway, Here or there, there is no confusion about men and women and what their roles are in life. We agree entirely. And yes, I am extremely proud of my wife, from her acedemic acheivements to her artistic abilties to her stunning beauty. Yes, I think she is the most beautiful woman on earth and I am the luckiest man. And to be clear, I wasn't even "shopping", here, there or anywhere, when we met by accident in a country foreign to both of us. QUOTE (uscandual @ Jun 14 2009, 12:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (emmaline_g @ Jun 14 2009, 12:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I am really angered by all the generalizations going on in this thread... please lay off the women, whether they are Ukrainian, American, or Icelandic. Why do you hate Icelandic women? I found them to be very "cold" I'm usually a BIG fan of yours and the calm, cool and collected things you write and your smart and savy answers to questions. This is not typical of you. I think just about everyone that reads your posts, looks at your signature and sees all the pictures of Alla knows how deeply in love you are. Why do you want to pick on us American women and our dress sizes today when we are ALL really happy for you and the love and happiness you so obviously have found? I'm still a fan though, I generally like and agree with what you write, just not about this	missmissy	Female	Denmark	2009-06-14 15:12:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	K-1: Charting options	QUOTE (payxibka @ Sep 8 2009, 07:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (dhruan @ Sep 8 2009, 07:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well that is indeed true. What I meant was that not having a return ticket would not be the reason to stop me from entering. And to be honest, I have not heard of ordinary Finnish citizens having any problems entering US. There would have to be something seriously wrong if a person is barred entry. depends on what you mean by "seriously" wrong... if you "overusing" the VWP it is not something "seriously" wrong other than guilty of overuse, but you will be and can be refused entry for this reason and it occurs more frequently than you might think My fiance is Danish and we thought the same thing and then....WHAMO!! Denied entry for over use of visa waiver. My advice, plan your trips carefully. Nothing puts a serious kink in your budget like (1) half of an unused ticket; and (2) the airline charging you AGAIN for sending you home! Edited by missmissy, 08 September 2009 - 08:26 AM.	missmissy	Female	Denmark	2009-09-08 08:25:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	You know youre obsessed with the I-129F when...	....when you take pictures of your I29F package before you mail it off... I was going to post mine here today but they are on my computer at my office!	missmissy	Female	Denmark	2009-05-08 08:45:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	I realized I did something wrong	We mailed our AOS packet on November 18th and I did the same thing - made the check to USCIS and they cashed it.	missmissy	Female	Denmark	2009-12-07 19:55:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Denial of Entry - Impact on Process	When did the denial occur in relation to the visa process? What was the reason for denial? No Denial, just a DELAY	missmissy	Female	Denmark	2010-01-06 18:24:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Denial of Entry - Impact on Process	For what it's worth - Lars was denied entry in October/2008 and sent back to Copenhagen and it had NO impact on his interview. No delays, nothing. They asked him what happened and that was it.	missmissy	Female	Denmark	2010-01-06 06:54:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	SAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)	QUOTE (scandal @ Jun 28 2009, 10:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> We're approved!!! Thanti just called me -- I just got off the phone with her. She got there an hour early. When they first called her up, they asked her for the post-office receipt of payment. She told them that she had included the original receipt from the post office in the Packet-3 response. They said they didn't have it. She said she had a photocopy of it. They said that wasn't good enough, she should go to the post office and get a duplicate receipt and come back on Mon or Wed. She said, ok, can she go out and still bring it today (Monday)? They said yes. However they told her to have a seat, and meanwhile they came back and "found" our Packet 3 envelope with the missing receipt. Huh????? #######???? Anyway, with that straightened out, she was #8 in line, had a quick interview with the female CO, the usual questions about how did we meet? When? When was my last trip to Thailand? Why had I not visited Thailand during 2009? Did she know I was divorced? How many kids do I have? Did we travel together in Thailand? All easy to answer questions, no complications whatsoever. She got the white slip, and was told to pick up the visa on Wed July 1st. She's flying out Thursday night and I'll pick her up at O'Hare on Friday morning, in time for the long weekend!! I'm not a regular here but have been watching and so happy for you!! Congratulations and enjoy the rest of the journey!	missmissy	Female	Denmark	2009-06-28 22:41:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Refusal of Entry	Our experience with this - Lars was denied entry in 2008, after coming back and forth with me for 2 years. He was detained at JFK, allowed to make one call, to tell me he was being sent home, and kept there until his return flight, about 8 hours. They searched him, his computer, read everything they could access, made him give passwords, etc. The airline had him use his return ticket - so we paid for his return flight. Today, 4 years later - he has his greencard and has applied for ROC - he is still nervous going through the airport. Being denied entry had no effect on his getting his visa, we disclosed all the details.	missmissy	Female	Denmark	2012-02-14 08:24:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	High Fraud consulates or embassy or country	QUOTE (charles! @ Mar 9 2009, 03:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> anyone want some? Scoot over! I've got cookies!	missmissy	Female	Denmark	2009-03-09 16:41:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	March 2009 k-1 people	QUOTE (Richard-Joanna @ May 22 2009, 09:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Tygrys @ May 22 2009, 10:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Richard-Joanna @ May 22 2009, 10:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> She is in Szczecin... and spankings from Missy feel good...*evil grin* so, personally, I look forward to them That's roughly 300 miles... Yeah, Missy's spankings may feel good, but I still prefer if they administered by my SO. Agreed I would prefer it from my SO as well.. Yes it is 300 miles but it is also on the way to Krakow which I would like to visit. And Missy... that was ALL meant to help relieve stress and take your mind off the time line! It worked, thanks!!	missmissy	Female	Denmark	2009-05-22 10:16:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	March 2009 k-1 people	QUOTE (Richard-Joanna @ May 22 2009, 09:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Tygrys @ May 22 2009, 10:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Richard-Joanna @ May 22 2009, 10:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Tygrys @ May 22 2009, 10:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Richard-Joanna @ May 22 2009, 09:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I am only 1/2 Polish... and 1/2 Italian... so I eat pretty well! Where is your SO from in Poland? Katowice, which is my former hometown as well. Oh, eating... I'll get some of that gooood stuff in 12 days! I am hoping to head that way when I go back to Poland for the K1 interview. We were going that way over Christmas, but ended up going somewhere else instead. Where is your SO from? I do don't plan into the future so far away... interview... Oh sorry, I don't want to sound to negative, because I might get spanked by missmissy again. She is in Szczecin... and spankings from Missy feel good...*evil grin* so, personally, I look forward to them You boys are soooo bad!! Now, behave! I have to work.	missmissy	Female	Denmark	2009-05-22 09:24:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	March 2009 k-1 people	QUOTE (Richard-Joanna @ May 22 2009, 08:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (missmissy @ May 22 2009, 09:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Tygrys @ May 22 2009, 08:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (missmissy @ May 22 2009, 09:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> May I escort you over to the February group so you can motivate them? I am sure that they will love you WAY more than we ever could! Just teasing you! But, having said that - I am sure that you are aware that no one wants to be "out of the way" more than we do. It's stressful enough without the negativity......know what I'm saying? Now, here's a nice good-bye ((hug)) and off you go to motivate the February filers and your fellow April filers! Thank you for your kind words, you're such a nice Southern Lady... Awwww....and I was just now feeling guilty and getting ready to send you an apology and explain that the stress is getting to me. Actually, I am pretty nice and my biggest problem is I "shoot from the lip" a lot. Sorry, sorry, sorry. You are waiting just like the rest of us - I just never thought about going and telling the January group to get their asses in gear and get it moving! Hmmm......I wonder if it would work? LOL, I told the February group that "Since February wasn't a 'REAL' month, that we should just skip them entirely" Go Richard, Go Richard!!! I laughed out loud at that!!! By the way - I looked (I am so ashamed) again and we moved to August 10th!! I know I am an idiot but I am pretty excited to move forward a whole day!! Edited by missmissy, 22 May 2009 - 08:46 AM.	missmissy	Female	Denmark	2009-05-22 08:43:00