ForumTitleContentMemberSexCountryDate/Time
Middle East and North Africawait time for interview letter at cairo embassy

Well, i don't really know. Some people get it in two weeks other 3 month.. i have no idea, but i guessing because of what is happening now in Egypt  there will be delays. i am waiting on mine too.. sent it on the 10th of june..sooo, lets pray soon. 


Kat1234Not TellingEgypt2013-07-02 02:30:00
Middle East and North AfricaTransfer case from Cairo embassy

How come some people stay longer in AP review than others ?


Kat1234Not TellingEgypt2013-07-15 02:46:00
Middle East and North AfricaSeptember update Immigrant Visa Interview Schedule .... when?

I noticed that they haven'T UPDATED it yet so i sent them an e-mail. they are really frustrating me, i don't know what to do anymore. 


Kat1234Not TellingEgypt2013-09-02 11:18:00
Middle East and North AfricaOctober 2013

nope !!! i hate them 


Kat1234Not TellingEgypt2013-09-26 13:52:00
Middle East and North AfricaEmbassy in Egypt Website-- anyone see this page?

Anyone got interview for November?


Kat1234Not TellingEgypt2013-10-22 01:25:00
Middle East and North AfricaImportant question about A.P in Cairo Need help please

Who decided that you are under AP. 


Kat1234Not TellingEgypt2013-11-13 02:53:00
Middle East and North AfricaWait time for k-1 visa interview in Cairo Egypt

i sent my packet 3 the end of may and i got my intervew in november

 


Kat1234Not TellingEgypt2013-11-18 00:49:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsFeb 21 interview..

No that link is not for K-1, that is a wrong link.

Here is the link for the K-1 visa


http://photos.state....3__rtf2_003.pdf




Go click that link you gave, its not for the K-1.... this is the K-1 link: http://photos.state....3__rtf2_003.pdf


For the record correct, it is the wrong link...I responded to your pm, and explained why the mistake.
LeatherneckMalePhilippines2012-02-16 17:04:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsFeb 21 interview..
Have you completed the CFO seminar?
LeatherneckMalePhilippines2012-02-16 04:34:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsFeb 21 interview..

Is this for k1?


Yes it is for K-1.

Have you completed the CFO seminar?

Edited by Leatherneck, 16 February 2012 - 04:21 AM.

LeatherneckMalePhilippines2012-02-16 04:19:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsFeb 21 interview..

Nervous about my interview this coming Tuesday I hope everything will be fine. I still don't have the packet 3 from the embassy but some say it will not arrive. Done with my medical and completing some documents. Just have my appointment letter and the Ds156 ds156k and ds157. And now reviewing some question fr K1 visa. Still nervous,.



You're going to need more than the docs you mentioned, click here so you can read about these required docs.

It is normal to feel nervous, just be as prepared as possible.
LeatherneckMalePhilippines2012-02-16 01:46:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsAPPROVED!!!
Congratulations!
LeatherneckMalePhilippines2012-02-15 15:31:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsAPPROVED application in 4 months and 6 days with CSC - Wow!
Congratulations!
LeatherneckMalePhilippines2012-02-13 21:46:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsNOA2 Approved!
Congratulations!
LeatherneckMalePhilippines2012-02-22 13:43:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsWooo hoo Visa approved
Congratulations!
LeatherneckMalePhilippines2012-02-21 23:59:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsNOA2 APPROVED!!!!
Congratulations!
LeatherneckMalePhilippines2012-02-22 04:19:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsWe're Married!!!
CONGRATULATIONS!
LeatherneckMalePhilippines2012-02-23 23:44:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsAdditonal Processing?
Normal, not AP.

Edited by Leatherneck, 24 February 2012 - 11:10 AM.

LeatherneckMalePhilippines2012-02-24 11:09:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsFast K-1 Approval from VSC
Congratulations!
LeatherneckMalePhilippines2012-02-24 07:04:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsK-1 VISA APPROVAL
Congratulations!
LeatherneckMalePhilippines2012-02-24 06:38:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsJust got NOA2 , now what?
Congratulations!
LeatherneckMalePhilippines2012-02-25 10:06:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports42 minutes of agony
Congrats!
LeatherneckMalePhilippines2012-02-08 14:10:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsInappropriate Interview

The manual you cited also states that officers must respect the rights of the person they are interviewing.
Is privacy not a right respected by the US government? I'm starting to believe it's not, and that unlike what I was thinking, the rights of foreign immigrants are protected a lot more in my country of origin. Which by the way is also a popular destination for immigration...


Yes, I also noticed you made no mentioned that questions related to sexual relations are not prohibited, despite the manual clearly
showing it is allowed.
LeatherneckMalePhilippines2012-02-26 21:43:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsInappropriate Interview

Wow. That's disrespectful and misinformed.

Who are you to tell anyone where they should live? Who are you to tell me what I should be into in my life? For you it may be the US, I may not give a hoot of these artificial creations we call nation states in the first place, why should that offend you? Everyone's got their thing, mine may be fishing. Why should that be a problem?

What angers and upsets me is when my fellow human beings are being subjected to abuse or ill-treatment that denies them their dignity. I don't care when or where, why, or by who. There is no justification for such treatment, anyplace, ever. "Holier than thou"? That, my friend, would be you. These things happen in America all the time, but you choose to close your eyes to it.


Lady, I didn't tell you or anyone else where they should live. Personally, I couldn't care less where you live. When you make this statement, "I don't hate the US, but it's nothing special to me. Just another country with good and bad things.

Well, there are millions of people that feel this country is special to them, whether it is to you or not. Of course America is not perfect, I'd rather live in flawed American that some perceived perfect little utopia any day. Where is that country where I can immigrate to and enjoy something the likes of the Bill of Rights? Where is that country where I can enjoy my God given and the natural right to self-defense, which includes the ability to possess and carry a firearm? Where is that place, I might be tempted pack my bags, move there and go fishing.

Sorry, if you have not figured it out yet, I am not a 'let's all hold hands, hug, smile, sing, be extra nice to each other and make the world a better place.' So I do not get excited when someone endures a series of embarrassing and humiliating questions.

Finland and Chicago, um, I really would've been surprised if you had sentiments opposite of those you espouse.
LeatherneckMalePhilippines2012-02-26 21:21:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsInappropriate Interview

I disagree. Why shouldn't someone want to better their adopted country by participating in open discourse, a protected right of all people here? I suppose I wouldn't do this in China, for fear of retribution, but the US does not punish people for disagreeing, thank god. If these immigrants obtain citizenship, then they can vote and lobby for changes to the way things are done. I think the real issue is that some people are trying to make a solution without understanding why the current solution is in place, and that comes off poorly.


You're certainly free to disagree. I stand by my comment, if one doesn't like human rights abuses, (sane and rational folks would sanction human rights abuse) it would be foolish to immigrate to China then start complaining. That is an issue for the people of China to solve with the support of other nation states, not for new immigrant.

"Redress of grievances" is an available option to those that seek change.

The point the OP was making in that post was very simple, why move to a new country and complain, when those complaining were probably the same ones complaining about the place they left.
LeatherneckMalePhilippines2012-02-26 20:43:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsInappropriate Interview

You have a right to answer the questions or not. The CO could not care any less about your sex life. If you feel so strongly you could tell him you will not answer them and the interview is over. It's that simple. It's your choice. Nobody is twisting your arm. Why do you feel you can impress on the US that we should let you in as a resident without your cooperation? You don't have to move here. You are asking to move here.

What you are not aware of is the amount of people that will pay $ 10,000 to move to the US because they want to live here. There is so much fraud that if the CO is not convinced about your relationship ( and they were not convinced in this case) that it is within their right to determine if they are telling the truth or a "sham".

We were prepared to answer such questions because we knew they were doing their job and we support them in making sure that fraudulent people don't come into this country and suck our resources, health care, food stamp programs and other government benefits dry.

By the way, we were not asked these kinds of questions as I would bet 98% of people are not. The other 2% should do a better job of proving their relationship to the CO and not making him figure it out. Our interview was so simple because we were prepared and presented a strong case.

I am really sick of people who come to this country and complain about it. These are the same people that were complaining when they left their own country. At least here you can get involved in government and you have a chance of changing it. Talk to your congressman about this but don't say they can't ask these questions because they can.



Well said! It would be like immigrating to China then complaining about human rights. :thumbs:

Edited by Leatherneck, 26 February 2012 - 05:39 PM.

LeatherneckMalePhilippines2012-02-26 17:39:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsInappropriate Interview

I'm not saying that you would consider become a U.S citizen someday in the future. Nobody can predict on way or other. However, would be good if some immigrants keep in mind that one of the first things that they must willing to do in order to become an U.S. citizen is Give up loyalty to others countries" it includes our countries of birth. As shocking as it sounds. Right?

Oath of Allegiance

"I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state or sovereignty, of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the armed forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God."



Thank you for pointing that out to Mr. Peter Pan. :thumbs:
LeatherneckMalePhilippines2012-02-26 17:25:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsInappropriate Interview

A pity your oath didn't include some testing to make sure you understood it, esp. the 4th amendment. Oh, and Stokes is very connected to the constitution, as the constitution defines government power.


Maybe it's you that doesn't understand the oath taken by members of the armed services.

Care to explain how 'Stokes' is not Constitutional?

Thank you, I appreciate it. It was a lengthy process, lots of waiting for NOA2, but the people at her embassy were really nice and helpful. They helped her sort out the documents (we had everything imaginable just in case), they were kind, professional and downright friendly.

To add some humor to all this arguing, a friend of mine from the UK was petitioning for a green card after marrying an American. She was about 8 months pregnant at their interview, and after swearing them in, the USCIS guy asked her, apologetically, if he was the father. She said yes, and he immediately told them they were approved and that he better take his wife home in case she's ready to deliver. :)


The bit of humor was appreciated!
LeatherneckMalePhilippines2012-02-26 17:20:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsInappropriate Interview

Okay, great! This just comes across as a discussion/debate killer:


Switching directions slightly, my guess is that a court would uphold the right of USCIS to question in this way someone who had no legal status in the US, but those with legal status in the US could challenge it on the basis of a right to privacy. Might be harder to challenge on the 4th amendment, because you're submitting yourself to search when you're asking for special favors from the government, like the right to get on an airplane for example.


I'm sure some sharp Yale or Harvard law school educated esquire would've done so by now, perhaps. Sure it can be challenged.
LeatherneckMalePhilippines2012-02-26 17:03:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsInappropriate Interview

No one is arguing that this process hasn't survived legal challenges. My point is, it's wrong. It's disgusting, it's embarrassing to me as an American that my government hires people who stoop to this level; and at the same time that same government doesn't address the real immigration problems on the Mexican border. There were 35,000 K1s last years, even if all were fraudulent, that still pales in comparison to the number of illegals already in this country.

I don't think a CO or USCIS offical as part of AOS should be allowed to ask questions about activities which would be illegal to perform in public. The CO who interviewed my fiance was courteous and professional. He asked some detailed yet entirely reasonable questions about our timeline and history together, which to me indicated he had done his homework, and he would have easily tripped her up if we had been faking it - they can catch the frauds if they're willing to work at it without resorting to demeaning questions, and I applaud those who do.


You're entitled to your opinion, just as others don't see it your way.

I do agree with you about the government's posture with regards to immigration, grandma and the 5 year old get worked over and groped while we still have large sectors of the border unsecured.

Glad you and your fiancee were successful in obtaining a visa. Congrats!

Edited by Leatherneck, 26 February 2012 - 04:59 PM.

LeatherneckMalePhilippines2012-02-26 16:58:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsInappropriate Interview

True, it's not going to change USCIS policy to discuss it here. But as an American, I'm free to discuss the issue, particularly as I'm just trying to learn more about it. You're free to be annoyed by my asking questions, but I'm free to be annoyed by people making claims with no evidence to back it up. For example: I searched my university's legal database for "stokes" and "stokes interview" and came up with nothing related to immigration. So I'm still not convinced that Stokes has "survived legal challenges."


I am not annoyed at all, you are one of the few with a reasoned approach to the issue. I appreciate your willingness to educate yourself, rather than throw out statements based on emotions and not logic.
LeatherneckMalePhilippines2012-02-26 16:49:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsInappropriate Interview

Ah, so the manual says it's okay and puts in some vague CYA language. That makes it okay to you, doesn't it?

If your attitude is representative of most members of the military (and luckily it isn't based on the veterans I know and work with), all I can say is thank God for the Posse Comitatus Act.


You have no idea what my attitude is about much of anything, besides the 'Stokes Interview' issue. I took an oath to defend the Constitution, which 'Stokes' has ZERO connection.

If you don't like it, then you have a right to "redress of grievances"
LeatherneckMalePhilippines2012-02-26 16:46:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsInappropriate Interview

I kind of am...can someone point me to records of these legal challenges specifically for asking questions about the petitioner's sex life?



Right, so it's a subjective standard. Someone could certainly argue that questions about condom usage are prying.


You can anything you want, yet, Yet, nowhere does it explicitly recommend a CO/IO to avoid questions about sex. It just does not exist.

Now if you and the others don't like it, you have the right to "redress of grievances" as guaranteed by the Constitution. Trying to make a case here about not liking it is futile.
LeatherneckMalePhilippines2012-02-26 16:41:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsInappropriate Interview

Perhaps because the sex aspect is the inappropriate one?


To you, perhaps.
LeatherneckMalePhilippines2012-02-26 16:33:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsInappropriate Interview

This is what I was referring to:

"Stokes supervisors said that officers were trained to avoid questions about sex, but they cannot stop X-rated answers, like one from the citizen wife who was asked what she did for her spouse's birthday and began recounting their night together in explicit detail. " (emphasis added)

http://www.nytimes.c...?pagewanted=all

And again, having these questions be part of USCIS policy doesn't mean that policy can't/shouldn't be challenged. Citations for the failed challenges would be useful for the discussion.


It's been challenged and 'Stokes' is still standing. Now, I did the heavy lifting for you, below is from the Adjudicator's Field Manual:


15.3 Officer Conduct and Appearance.


(a) Appearance.

(a) Appearance

It is imperative that the officer conducting the interview dress in a professional manner. Both males and females should wear appropriate business attire, although some offices may permit "business casual" attire on certain days.


(b) Conduct and Attitude


All interviews should be conducted in a courteous and businesslike manner. The following guidelines will ensure that the interview is conducted professionally:

  • Maintain control of the interview at all times. "Maintaining control" does not mean being overbearing or abusive; on the contrary, it requires that the officer maintain a professional demeanor at all times. The exact nature of that professional demeanor will sometimes vary, according to the interview techniques being employed (see below). The ability of the officer to maintain control of him/herself is instrumental in maintaining control of the interview.
  • Speak clearly, distinctly and not too rapidly, using plain and simple language when questioning an applicant, petitioner or witness. Avoid complex and lengthy questions, and always obtain a responsive answer before proceeding to the next questions. Avoid USCIS jargon.
  • At all times maintain due regard for the rights of the person being questioned.
  • Avoid arguments with the person being interviewed, as well a remarks of a personal nature that may be taken as a reflection of a judgment of a personal lifestyle.
  • Refrain from making any extraneous comments or asking extraneous questions, as they are irrelevant to the purpose of the interview and detract from the professional demeanor that the officer should maintain. Avoid questions about a person's religious beliefs or practices unless they are relevant to determine the individual's eligibility for a benefit. Do not make any comments that might be taken as a negative reflection upon any other person, race, religion, or country.
  • Maintain professional conduct even if the interviewee becomes abusive or if derogatory information is developed. If necessary, contact a supervisor.
  • Be fair, courteous, and patient without diminishing in any degree full and complete development of the material facts, whether they be favorable or adverse to the person being interviewed or any other person.
  • When questioning persons concerning sexual relations, always avoid questions which can be construed solely as prurient or prying.
  • Ensure that your demeanor is unprejudiced, impartial, and creates no foundation for complaints that you have been unfair or have used any mistreatment or duress.

Edited by Leatherneck, 26 February 2012 - 04:31 PM.

LeatherneckMalePhilippines2012-02-26 16:30:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsInappropriate Interview

Yeah, incredible as it may seem, we are loyal to the countries we were born into and lived into for so long. Shocking, I know.

As for the whole "I wore the uniform", gimmie a break, both of my grandmothers were caught in a serious war, lived in cities that were bombarded for years and didn't make a fuss about it.


Of course I wouldn't expect you to understand this, you're still having difficulty the 'Stokes' concept. It really doesn't take much effort to focus on sex and perverts, however, it does take a bit of reasoning to see the big picture.
LeatherneckMalePhilippines2012-02-26 16:21:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsInappropriate Interview

The big picture is that the guy was a damn pervert who chose from 100 possible topics, the 1 one got his jollies. I come from a totalitarian background, I know what abuse is, and no, I don't think what he did wasn't offensive.


You seem to be the one stuck on and obsessed with the sex aspect of the questions. Educate yourself and get over it, 'Stokes' is used by USCIS and has survived challenges.
LeatherneckMalePhilippines2012-02-26 16:13:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsInappropriate Interview

These arguments like "it's not inappropriate/invasive/unjust because it's common/not illegal" aren't particularly logical. Just because their ability to ask these questions has not yet been challenged, doesn't mean that it is right or that there is no ground to challenge them. Even if questions about sex life are helpful to root out fraud, they still might not stand up if challenged in an American court. Consider the question of marital status in a job interview: potentially helpful to employers who want to avoid having their employee take time off for children? Yes. Legal? No. In that case, the person being interviewed doesn't have the "right" to the job (just as people are arguing that interviewees don't have a "right" to a green card), but because of the difference in power between the person offering the job and the person trying to get it, there has to be some protection for the interviewee built into the process.

I can't remember if I got this link off this thread or another on VJ, but this article on marriage fraud talks about a CO that was using interviews to extort sexual favors, and the other article from the NYTimes mentioned in this thread says that officers are trained to avoid questions about sex...it's not entirely impossible that the CO is using his/her power to get their...jollies. With gynecologists, you can always go to another if you get creepy vibes from yours; not so with consular interviewers.


Consular "...officers are not trained to avoid questions about sex." Asking questions about sex during a 'Stokes Interview' is accepted by USCIS and all the way down to the Office of Visa Services.
LeatherneckMalePhilippines2012-02-26 16:07:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsInappropriate Interview

I am sure details about an Equadorian's sex life will go a long way whereas protecting the US is concerned.


You still refuse to see the big picture? I think you fully understand, but as long as you keep getting brownie points from others for your Peter Pan comedy take about the issue, then you'll get as much mileage as you can from your position. Rather than offering a comment with any value and substance.
LeatherneckMalePhilippines2012-02-26 15:53:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsInappropriate Interview

Essentially this is about whether or not the US government should be allowed to use "harsh interrogation tactics" on people who for whatever random reason raise its suspicions. Going to such lengths in the pursuit of marriage-based immigration fraudsters is both laughable and sad, and at a great cost proves little else except how morally corrupt and dominated by fear and hatred this country has become.

The greatest privilege in my life? Being together with my soulmate. A US visa or a GC? Give me a break. The standard of living and quality of life are much higher in my country of citizenship and a few other countries that I've also lived in. And I've been very happy living in places with a lower standard of living, that to me felt like a privilege too. I don't hate the US, but it's nothing special to me. Just another country with good and bad things. And yes, we're not here to stay. We fully intend to move to either Europe or Asia in a few years. Too many great places to explore in this world! :)


OK then...KEEP IT MOVING!

I get really annoyed at you folks that treat the USA like it's some kind of doggy park, you use it to do your business, then off you go. Well, do not let the door hit you where the Good Lord split you! I proudly wore the uniform and was ready at any hour to put it all on the line so ungrateful folks like you could have your say. Well, to some of us, AMERICA IS SOMETHING SPECIAL! There is no other place for us to "...move to" and enjoy the full host of rights under the Bill of Rights.

Some of you Europeans tend to exhibit the biggest 'holier than thou' attitude and contempt for the U.S., of course you're free to do so.
LeatherneckMalePhilippines2012-02-26 15:47:00