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US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionIncome and Loss
QUOTE (JimVaPhuong @ Jul 12 2009, 05:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (thepizzadude @ Jul 12 2009, 03:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
OK maybe you need to look at it if YOU are at the minimum level of income to qualify like this...

I have 30000 in revenues, I have 14000 I can write off giving me 16000 to be taxed BUT I need to show 21800 to qualify therefore as a business owner I lose out on 5800 of my allowable write off....


Ok, sounds like you didn't have a loss after all. You just didn't have enough of a profit to clear the threshold.

The revenues from my business were about $30,000, but I SPENT about $36,000, leaving me with a $6000 loss for the year. That $6000 came out of my pocket, and reduced the line 22 total income by $6000. This was the first year for my business, so the loss was expected. The income from my full time job more than makes up for the loss, so I'm still above the 125% threshold by a very comfortable margin.


A. I didn't say this was me.
B. This has nothing to do with 2nd jobs to cover the amount needed to qualify.
C. This could happen equally to a business having 250k in revenue with payroll, insurance, cost of goods blah blah blah. Carry Over losses from previous years, and depreciation. THE FACT is you could have to NOT take allowable losses just to qualify and IT IS NOT FAIR period. I only used your simplistic AMWAY business model for simplicity. I'm sorry but FACTS are FACTS. yes.gif

thepizzadudeMalePhilippines2009-07-12 18:12:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionIncome and Loss
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QUOTE (thepizzadude @ Jul 12 2009, 09:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
BTW I have my own business and dealt with this issue quite extensively last year moving money from one place to other to qualify without giving up ALL my allowable write offs. This process is very unfair to the business owner, you must give up GENUINE allowable expenses sometimes to qualify, and that in my opinion is unfair.


I'm confused by this. How is this unfair to business owners? What you have left on line 22 is more or less the same as what an employee would have left here - total personal income before adjustments, taxes, etc. Not deducting business expenses would make this number higher, but the fact is that you still spent that money on your business - it wasn't available for you to live on, and it won't be available for you to support your spouse.


An allowable loss reduces your taxable income, TO INCREASE your income on line 22 you have to NOT take these losses to qualify ... where is the confusion?
Yes, money spent on the business COULD not be claimed in order to generate MORE taxable income. Maybe you are thinking backwards.


I don't think I'm thinking backwards. I think I'm understanding you completely. I also have a home based business, in addition to a full time job. My total revenues from the business last year were over $30,000, but I took a net loss of around $6000. This reduced MY taxable income by $6000. I don't see this as being unfair, because in the end I spent $6000 more than I made. I think it's only fair that neither the $30,000 in revenues, nor the $6000 that came out of my own pocket, should be considered as if they were income that was actually available to me to support my fiancee/spouse.

The IRS considers what was left after my loss to be my total income, and it seems proper to me that the consulate and USCIS should do the same.



OK maybe you need to look at it if YOU are at the minimum level of income to qualify like this...

I have 30000 in revenues, I have 14000 I can write off giving me 16000 to be taxed BUT I need to show 21800 to qualify therefore as a business owner I lose out on 5800 of my allowable write off....


No, you simply need MORE revenue


LOL
thepizzadudeMalePhilippines2009-07-12 18:08:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionIncome and Loss
QUOTE (JimVaPhuong @ Jul 12 2009, 04:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (thepizzadude @ Jul 12 2009, 11:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (JimVaPhuong @ Jul 12 2009, 12:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (thepizzadude @ Jul 12 2009, 09:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
BTW I have my own business and dealt with this issue quite extensively last year moving money from one place to other to qualify without giving up ALL my allowable write offs. This process is very unfair to the business owner, you must give up GENUINE allowable expenses sometimes to qualify, and that in my opinion is unfair.


I'm confused by this. How is this unfair to business owners? What you have left on line 22 is more or less the same as what an employee would have left here - total personal income before adjustments, taxes, etc. Not deducting business expenses would make this number higher, but the fact is that you still spent that money on your business - it wasn't available for you to live on, and it won't be available for you to support your spouse.


An allowable loss reduces your taxable income, TO INCREASE your income on line 22 you have to NOT take these losses to qualify ... where is the confusion?
Yes, money spent on the business COULD not be claimed in order to generate MORE taxable income. Maybe you are thinking backwards.


I don't think I'm thinking backwards. I think I'm understanding you completely. I also have a home based business, in addition to a full time job. My total revenues from the business last year were over $30,000, but I took a net loss of around $6000. This reduced MY taxable income by $6000. I don't see this as being unfair, because in the end I spent $6000 more than I made. I think it's only fair that neither the $30,000 in revenues, nor the $6000 that came out of my own pocket, should be considered as if they were income that was actually available to me to support my fiancee/spouse.

The IRS considers what was left after my loss to be my total income, and it seems proper to me that the consulate and USCIS should do the same.



OK maybe you need to look at it if YOU are at the minimum level of income to qualify like this...

I have 30000 in revenues, I have 14000 I can write off giving me 16000 to be taxed BUT I need to show 21800 to qualify therefore as a business owner I lose out on 5800 of my allowable write off....


thepizzadudeMalePhilippines2009-07-12 17:23:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionIncome and Loss
QUOTE (JimVaPhuong @ Jul 12 2009, 12:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (thepizzadude @ Jul 12 2009, 09:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
BTW I have my own business and dealt with this issue quite extensively last year moving money from one place to other to qualify without giving up ALL my allowable write offs. This process is very unfair to the business owner, you must give up GENUINE allowable expenses sometimes to qualify, and that in my opinion is unfair.


I'm confused by this. How is this unfair to business owners? What you have left on line 22 is more or less the same as what an employee would have left here - total personal income before adjustments, taxes, etc. Not deducting business expenses would make this number higher, but the fact is that you still spent that money on your business - it wasn't available for you to live on, and it won't be available for you to support your spouse.


An allowable loss reduces your taxable income, TO INCREASE your income on line 22 you have to NOT take these losses to qualify ... where is the confusion?
Yes, money spent on the business COULD not be claimed in order to generate MORE taxable income. Maybe you are thinking backwards.
thepizzadudeMalePhilippines2009-07-12 13:26:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionIncome and Loss
QUOTE (tomi @ Jul 10 2009, 02:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you owned your business and on your tax paperwork, you showed loss. Will that count against you? will that give us a RFE or Red Flag?

It depends if you are saying your business showed a total loss or just lost some money for that time period.

I only had my business for half the year last year and I worked right after that. The total income is well over $20K which is above the poverty level?

When you say the "total income" is well over $20K. Do you mean the sales are well over $20K before you take out expenses etc...OR after your losses the leftover money is well over $20K?

Also, lets say, I made $8k working for a business, and I have a $20K car.. How do I calculate the car as an asset?

Unless you have 2 cars it won't count. The $8K will count if you have a 1099 or w-2.

Like Gary said Line 22 on you 1040 federal tax form is the # you need to be concerned with.

Good Luck

BTW I have my own business and dealt with this issue quite extensively last year moving money from one place to other to qualify without giving up ALL my allowable write offs. This process is very unfair to the business owner, you must give up GENUINE allowable expenses sometimes to qualify, and that in my opinion is unfair.


thepizzadudeMalePhilippines2009-07-12 11:44:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionEmbassy wants Petitioner at next CR-1 interview. Any advice?
QUOTE (Svadharma @ Jul 26 2009, 12:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
TBone, I cannot thank you enough. We went to our interview on the 22nd and the first thing they asked my husband for, before they even closed the door was proof of our relationship. Thank goodness I had followed your advice. I was able to just hand over an envelope that had emails, chat logs, photos, a photo book with pictures of our wedding that I made for his mom, 6 letters from my friends/family, proof that I had made him my beneficiary on my retirement account and proof that I had added him to my insurance.

He was in the room for over an hour and a half. Eventually only the guard, the janitors and I were left in this large room. Then I was brought in for about an hour... and then him again. Then they told us to wait and that we would be called to a window.

About 10 minutes later we were called to the window and we were told he was approved! Then we paid to have the documents sent to him and they already arrived on Friday. Of course, until he actually arrives in the country I am still a little nervous, but things seem to be working out.

Thank you again, so much!


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thepizzadudeMalePhilippines2009-07-26 11:48:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionOath Letter
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thepizzadudeMalePhilippines2009-08-16 18:09:00
US Embassy and Consulate Discussionanother police check question

Hi. I know i have to have a police check done in NZ and australia and that shouldnt be too hard. But 30 years ago I went overseas on a holiday and lived in london for a year at a pub with a 3 month stint in morrocco during that year and a trip around britain as well. i worked in London for a few months. I also lived in a kibbutz in israel for almost a year. Ive had 2 new passports since then and only my most recent trips to the USA are on my latest passport.

So do I have to get a police check from Israel or Britain. If so will I need those done for my interview

Also on the subject of immunisation. Can I go to my doctor and get a blood test to be checked for what I am currently immunised against and present that to the CS when i do my medical before the interview, or do I need original immunisation records.

Im told i will need the hep B vaccine which is 3 shots over about 4 months. should I start that now.

thanks for any info


I believe that you will need a police check from Britian if you lived here for more than 1 year (see here for the form: http://www.acpo.police.uk/acro/). Anywhere that you lived for more than 1 year from the age of 16 needs a police check. If you didn't live in Israel for 12 months then you shouldn't need one from there.

As to the shots. I'm not sure about the immunisation record if the blood test would be acceptable but the Hep B would probably be cheaper to have done in NZ. I've read that you can get your medical clearance without the immunisations but you will have to have them in the US before you file for AOS. I'm not sure if that's just in certain circumstances or not. I haven't checked the medical stuff on the NZ consulate page (but their visa info is so much better than where i am at the mo) but it might give you advice on your Hep B question.

Good luck :)

Edited by Y&E, 03 March 2010 - 04:25 AM.

Y&EFemaleUnited Kingdom2010-03-03 04:21:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionFact or fiction Ds-157
I don't know if there's a hard and fast rule. It does say you can do either. I completed mine by hand because it wouldn't let me type the full information into the address boxes so it was completely useless to try and do it electronically.

Saying that, I haven't got my P3 letter to send everything in, so I may get it back with an RFE? But, I filled it in neatly and they should be able to read it so I can't foresee that it will be a problem.
Y&EFemaleUnited Kingdom2010-03-10 09:23:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionMedical

I'll have to have rootle around, but i'm fairly certain that the DS-157 has been replaced by the DS-160, which is an electronic form? Might be talking absolute tosh, so hang on for someone who's been through all this recently :D


Just to clarify, for K visas the DS-157 is still in use. This is for K visas only. DS-160 is for other non-immigration visas.
http://london.usemba.../visaforms.html
Y&EFemaleUnited Kingdom2010-03-31 05:25:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionPacket 3 for London Embassy-May 2010 /K1 Visa
Your fiance needs an ACRO (the expensive one) the other one is a CRB which is used by bodies who employ people working with children and vulnerable adults. In order to get a US visa you need the ACRO. You also don't send these documents in with the P3 - I know it's confusing but the only things you needed to send were the forms. Any other documentation (along with photocopies of said documentation) you just take along to the interview.

Hope that helps. There's an application form available online.
Y&EFemaleUnited Kingdom2010-05-22 14:00:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionInterview
Don't think that the UK consulate ever asks for original copies of the US citizen's stuff. They are only interested in the UK citizen and to ensure that the relationship is real. They are pretty easy on the questions. UK isn't considered to be a high fraud risk country I guess.

Hope that your interview goes well and I suggest that you also read the guides and the UK wiki as they have the answers to questions such as you had about the timeframe for marriage once you enter the US.
Y&EFemaleUnited Kingdom2010-06-26 17:11:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionLondon medical examination.
The only check that I received for that in April was a quick peek down my knickers, the doctor just lifted them momentarily and then put them down. It may be different for men though. I'm sure that you can tell from the x-ray, but a different person deals with the x-ray than the doctor whom you do the rest of the exam with. And also anyone that has done certain sports (particularly to an elite level) has a slightly different bone structure to the norm for their build.
Y&EFemaleUnited Kingdom2010-07-22 18:13:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionDS-157: 13. List All Countries You have Entered in the Last Ten Years
I had 2 lots of 3 months worth of travelling in Europe and trips around various parts of Asia. I just listed the year and wrote the countries that I'd visited that year - I had to use a separate piece of paper.

Good luck.

Emma
Y&EFemaleUnited Kingdom2010-08-02 15:07:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionWaiting for Interview Date from London
Dodi, there's no apparent formula for how they process and allocate interview dates. No one on here can give you a definite answer and I think that you've received the best answer from Nich-Nick. They've been on here awhile and they know what they're talking about.

My experience was that they had my info for about 3 weeks, sent me an RFE to get some info sent directly to them from overseas and then another 3 weeks before I received an interview date for 1 month later. Other people who sent their P3's around about the same time as me were processed at various different times to me.

Have you been onto Sundrop's UK K1 thread? You might get some more information there from other people who sent their packets at the same time as she has a tracker on there.
Y&EFemaleUnited Kingdom2010-08-13 15:42:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionConsulate rescheduling interview repeatedly?
London was really bad for that back in June / July. Could have been something to do with the school holidays? Then again, if people get sick and things like that it's beyond their control. I guess it depends on how many staff members they will have working each day. Sorry, that's not entirely helpful to you. Just wanted to let you know it's not just Dublin. I hear that Montreal is also terrible to get through.

Did you tell them your proposed travel date? London was pretty good about trying to arrange interviews based on travel so Dublin might be too.
Y&EFemaleUnited Kingdom2010-08-25 11:35:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionLondon Embassy : E - Mailing about a re schedule
I rescheduled my K1 interview back in June and I received a reply very quickly. They gave me a date that someone else had cancelled earlier than my original date. Did you include the code for the week on your email? If you did then I should have thought that you'd receive a response. My rescheduled date was sent via email.
Y&EFemaleUnited Kingdom2010-12-14 21:53:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionTravel to the Embassy by train (London)
When I went down for the medical I took the 6.30amj or so train from Huddersfield to LKX and returned on the 8.30pm or so same route. I was home by midnight. For the interview I did the same times but the return was from Euston for some reason. Hope that helps you with planning times.
Y&EFemaleUnited Kingdom2011-02-19 16:08:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionListing countries you have visted for DS-157

I'd list every time you've passed through immigration somewhere. Certainly make sure you list all those countries that you have stamps for in your passport.


I agree with this. That is what I did and just added an additional sheet that listed the year and then bullet pointed the countries visited that year. Gosh it was hard to remember sometimes. I think that with your job I certainly wouldn't bother to list countries that you were only in for an hour or two and didn't pass immigration.
Y&EFemaleUnited Kingdom2011-02-20 10:57:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionLondon Embassy Passport Return
7 days last June
Y&EFemaleUnited Kingdom2011-03-06 12:08:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionLondon Embassy Email
The only way to get the code is to call the expensive hotline and request it. The code changes each week and they won't answer any emails that don't use the code in the subject line. I'm also pretty sure that they can't answer any case specific questions unless you call on the expensive hotline. As to why they are different... who knows, maybe BT charges them huge amounts for having lots of lines?
Y&EFemaleUnited Kingdom2011-03-10 15:07:00
US Embassy and Consulate Discussionengagement ring
I wouldn't worry about it. People have all sorts of different ring styles and some people don't even wear an engagement ring or sometimes even a wedding band. The material things like that shouldn't matter. I didn't have my engagement ring when I went for my interview as it was still being made.
Y&EFemaleUnited Kingdom2011-04-17 08:29:00
US Embassy and Consulate Discussiontime from NOA2 to packet 3?
Call NVC to get the new case number and then if the forms are online is there any reason why she can't start to fill them in and continue the process?
Y&EFemaleUnited Kingdom2010-03-09 07:58:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionDual Citizenship Help
Use the Passport that relates to the country to arrive and leave. This way you will be in the country legally. If you enter the US on your Taiwanese pp they could kick you out or not let you in (if you need a visa from there) even though you are a US citizen. You'd then need to go to Canada or something to reenter on your US passport.
Y&EFemaleUnited Kingdom2011-02-17 14:12:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionBecoming US Citizen
Yes I became a resident in May 2009.... so I guess 90 days before May 2012 is when I'll start. That's what I figured, just wanted to confirm.

How long does it take to get your interview and get approved on the average?
EshansmommyFemaleBelgium2011-07-15 21:18:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionBecoming US Citizen
When can I become US Citizen? I received my green card in the mail today. We have been married for 3 years now (officially).

How hard is the test?

Would you say it is an easier or more difficult procedure to become citizen in comparison with the resident procedure?
EshansmommyFemaleBelgium2011-07-14 14:50:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionAre Embassies/Consulates on Holiday??
I don't know but it seems to be taking longer than normal for everything after USCIS - at least for us and some days the Consulates do have holidays. We sent back packet 3 and are waiting - hope to hear something about scheduling this coming week.
IndykittykeilahFemaleNetherlands2012-07-29 14:55:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionInterview today
By best to you. Hopefully they will sort it out quickly and won't delay things too long. (F)
IndykittykeilahFemaleNetherlands2012-08-20 13:42:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionInterview questions!!!
It's hard not to stress about the interview and you are right, not very romantic that your wife can't remember your story, but I would be more worried about the time passing. You may need to contact or have her contact an ombudsman - a person who helps you find out what it going on with your case. It really shouldn't matter to the US government if you can have children or not and I am a bit perturbed that they even ask questions of that personal an nature as did you use condoms... good grief that's a bit rude! :wow: :huh:

I think their issue is just deciding if your relationship is real - not whether or not your remember every detail about it each other like that Green Card movie. Who can remember everything? With all the stresses of modern life I don't think too many people can and we don't all know every detail about our beloveds and what goes on in their minds either and could not unless we were mind readers.

Good luck and try not to be so nervous. I know it's difficult because right now I'm stressing about my fiance's interview coming up next week. B-)
IndykittykeilahFemaleNetherlands2012-08-16 08:50:00
US Embassy and Consulate Discussion2 weeks already
It took a long time from NVC to the consulate, but then it went really fast... Hang in there! :luv: :)
IndykittykeilahFemaleNetherlands2012-08-21 17:06:00
US Embassy and Consulate Discussioninterview one approved
Congratulations! I'll be cleaning house too! (F) B-) :luv:
IndykittykeilahFemaleNetherlands2012-08-24 10:34:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionInfo on Paperwork/Forms and the Visa Interview

Click HERE for packets you will probably get from the embassy when your petition arrives there. These are actually from Poland, but are used world-wide. :) You should practice filling out and know what to do so when you do get them in the mail, you can fill them out and send back immediately.

This is a list of Example Questions that you may be asked at your interview.

I got a message from Google saying the link for the package is broken. :unsure:

Edited by Indykittykeilah, 29 February 2012 - 04:25 PM.

IndykittykeilahFemaleNetherlands2012-02-29 16:25:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionSending packet 3 checklist before police certificate arrives (it's being processed)

Darn.  I should have just driven out of town to do it!  Think the checklist is ok to send though, as it is on its way?  I don't want to give ANY reason for an RFE (or the equivalent)


MarkYYCMaleCanada2013-08-01 10:55:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionSending packet 3 checklist before police certificate arrives (it's being processed)

It has to search the Canadian Police Information Centre, which I don't believe the RCMP one does.  I could be wrong though.


MarkYYCMaleCanada2013-07-31 23:37:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionSending packet 3 checklist before police certificate arrives (it's being processed)

It has already been paid for, wish I knew about those guys earlier!

 


MarkYYCMaleCanada2013-07-31 10:52:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionSending packet 3 checklist before police certificate arrives (it's being processed)

Hi fellow VJ'ers

 

I dropped by my local police station to get the police certificate done, but due to some staff on vacation, etc, they told me it would take 3-4 weeks (I thought it would be a week or 2 max!)

 

The Vancouver consulate has our other part of Packet 3, they are just waiting for our checklist in order to send us Packet 4.

 

Can I send the checklist in and check off the box for the Police Certificate (I KNOW it will come back clean), as it is on it's way, in order to speed things up?  Would they know I sent it before actually have the police certificate?

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Mark


MarkYYCMaleCanada2013-07-31 01:09:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionWhich Affidavit of Support For Vancouver Canada?

Did they actually ask for tax documentation??


MarkYYCMaleCanada2013-09-11 02:31:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionStopped the Interview

closed for review


After review I am re-opening this thread with a warning. Stop the personal attacks and insults, and stop the judgmental comments about other posters. I will also state that insisting the OP ignores other advise and follows a course of action that worked for you is irresponsible and could place the OP in serious difficulties. Each case must be evaluated on its own circumstances, not some one else's. Immigration is not a one size fits all process.

The best advice is to seek a consultation with a knowledgeable immigration attorney to find out what options are appropriate and what potential pitfalls may lie in wait with different courses of action. The fraud claim has to be properly addressed - if it is not, it could come back to haunt the OP with serious repercussions. This is where a competent immigration attorney can be of assistance, even if it is only for a consult.



Thank you for reopening my post. I hope the responses here helps someone else as much as it has help me. Good luck to all and take care. My God be with you.
mistyblkrose33FemaleMorocco2010-02-12 13:26:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionStopped the Interview
My comments are not directed to any one poster. I do know, however, that I need not explain any of this to anyone. That was not my point.

Morocco4ever you are saying that you case was similar and that you man is now in the US. I am asking and have been asking what you and others like you did. Did you wait for them to tell you what to do next. Did you marry your fiance and then come back and refile. This is where I am getting no info. What was your next step after the devastation.

I understand what is being said about fraud. No one else needs to point me back to that point. I get it, I hear you loud and clear. This is why I am loosing patience because people keep trying to convince me that the CO was doing his job. I know he was I am glad that he was. I don't have any doubts about that. If you read what I am saying you will see I am moving on. Next step please!!!!!!!!

We have decided a course of action I just want to make sure I am doing everything that we can be fore we go to plan B. I have done everything else that I can think of without being educated on this matter. I am looking for an outcome of someone else.

Thanks for all your responses guys. I am not harboring anger or jumping on people. I just want to stop wasting everyone key stokes. The comment I made was because I know how scared some of us newbies are. I have been on the other side of the post as a third party.

I read somewhere before that if you cannot vent here then what is the use of being here on a forum full of people in the same situation.
mistyblkrose33FemaleMorocco2010-02-10 11:47:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionStopped the Interview

As for the K-1 visa, and going to marry your fiance. Some have successfully gone to Morocco and married then got the visa, some have had a second denial. If the petition expires you are free to marry again, but if the USCIS decides to review it rather than expire it, and you have gotten married in the meantime, is when the problems occur.

CO's won't deny an applicant because the petitioner is overweight, but rather it could give him more reason to review the case closer. His answer that he went there to practice his English wasn't very impressive to the CO obviously. He could go to just about any chat room for that. He would have been better off IMO if he would have said that he likes large women. But I do believe that his father's response that he didn't know if you were married before was the nail in the coffin. It isn't normal there that a woman has children outside of marriage, and it would be reasonable if his father had questioned about a previous marriage since you do have children at the time that your fiance told him about you. So it appears to me that this was the line of thinking for the CO.

Have you had any luck contacting your congressman for assistance? I would certainly get your future father in law to write a letter explaining why he didn't know about it, and why it doesn't make a difference to him, and that he supports your relationship. But don't stop there and assume that this is the reason for the denial. I do believe it is a culmination of the evidence rather than one specific thing in most denials.


You are very right traditionally, his country is against children outside of marriage. They were also against having a relationship at all outside of marriage. And at one point they were able to marry multiple wife, with the permission of the first wife and as long as they had the money to support a family. Marriages where arranged by you parents with cousins even, which is what happened to my man and why his is no longer married. Everything that you have said is true at one point. Its no longer the case with some Moroccan families. In some places the woman no longer wrap themselves from head to toe unless they want to do it. This whole situation makes me want to change my major from medicine to human rights, I tell you the truth! :wacko:

When I met my fiance his father worked in, and resided in another town for most of the month. It what you do to support your family. His mother is the one who knows the details of the relationship. His father gave his blessing and told the interview so, he was just happy his son found happiness after they previous attempt to find his a wife. I said that I would not write anymore but this is for anyone marrying someone in Morocco.

Do not be discouraged. Do not let anything anyone posted turn you around. If you believe your man is sincere fight for him because there are some that get caught up in the madness. Pray and God will guide you through. PM me if you want someone to talk to I am here to help. :thumbs:

BTW to clarify he said he went to Yahoo chat room to practice English not to the room we met in........
mistyblkrose33FemaleMorocco2010-02-10 08:52:00