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K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsLate-January Filer, NOA2 from CSC!
QUOTE (CourtAndGrey @ May 28 2008, 10:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well my friends, here is the post I've been waiting so long to publish:

GREIVIN AND I HAVE BEEN ISSUED OUR NOA2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The email came tonight at 7:15pm. I happened to be talking on the phone to my dad, giving him all the latest updates on other January filers, then I stopped mid-sentence when an email from CRIS popped up in my inbox. I said a couple bad words then told him i had received an email but my hand was frozen, I couldn't move the mouse to open it. He got all excited and told me to send it to him and he would open it! I opened it and started screaming/crying/hollering like a mad woman! He started yelling back "Courtney, I can't understand a damn word you're saying, is it good or bad!?!?!?!"

Once I got the words out and calmed down a bit, I told him obviously that it was good and we had been approved. Now, I just gotta track down my costa rican rainforest boy and tell him the wonderful news!

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CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!! It's definitely a wonderful feeling.

Good luck and fast processing on the rest of your journey.
Carol and BrunoFemaleBrazil2008-05-28 22:06:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsCSC K-1 Approval after 4 months
QUOTE (sunnybear @ May 28 2008, 09:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Congrats!!!! I filed right after you soooo here's hoping CSC stays on a roll here haha wink.gif We also have not been touched! Good luck on rest of the journey!!


I'd check your email often as the 1/22/08 box has been opened.


Good luck.
Carol and BrunoFemaleBrazil2008-05-28 22:19:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsCSC K-1 Approval after 4 months
APPROVED APPROVED APPROVED APPROVED!!!

I received the approval email this morning at 1am, though I wasn't aware of the approval until I checked the USCIS website this morning around 10am.
After 4 long, miserable months, we are finally approved.
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I'm still in shock though, but now it's time to buckle down and prepare for the rest of the ride as I hear the time goes by quickly.

Good luck to all of you still waiting, especially those of you who have been waiting since 07.


For those of you interested, I did not get a touch before the approval. The last touch was for a correction I submitted.

Edited by Carol and Bruno, 28 May 2008 - 07:26 PM.

Carol and BrunoFemaleBrazil2008-05-28 19:24:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsApproved Finally!
QUOTE (NN1980 @ Jun 2 2008, 09:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi guys,
I'm a December filer that was approved today. After an RFE that delayed my approval for nearly a month it feels great to finally get my NOA2.
Good luck to anybody else that is still waiting for their NOA2 and hopefully it will come soon.


Congratulations!!! Now if we can just get our files sent to the NVC!!!

Edited by Carol and Bruno, 02 June 2008 - 08:57 PM.

Carol and BrunoFemaleBrazil2008-06-02 20:56:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsREF Trick
QUOTE (MnM @ Jun 6 2008, 04:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
NO i didnt im just wait for my NOA2
i want to find out more info then they are giving me


I'm sorry, but you've only been waiting since 4/14/08. You really should be more patient. There are VJ'ers who've been waiting since last year without any word of their case.
Carol and BrunoFemaleBrazil2008-06-06 15:28:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsI thought the long wait was over...embassy to interview
Be thankful it's not like the embassy in the Dominican Republic. A good friend has been waiting for his wifes K3 interview to be scheduled now for 21 months and they are still like number 7,000 on the waiting list.

At least Canadians can come visit here easily as a tourist.

But it is amazing how some embassies get away with this, maybe the person in charge has some dirt on the administration or something so they let them slide.
hoosierMalePhilippines2007-12-14 10:00:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reportsquestion about Certificate of NO marriage
QUOTE (Primie & Ryan @ Mar 3 2008, 05:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (mox @ Mar 3 2008, 02:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Primie & Ryan @ Mar 2 2008, 10:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hi I am US citizen and I am wondering if also need Certificate of No marriage. I am single and never been married.
We know already that my fiancee need cenomar, but how about me? do I need it. Thank you.

The US citizen does not need anything to prove they're not married. I've not heard of the beneficiary needing this documentation, but perhaps it's required at the Manilla consulate?


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thnx for the reply smile.gif i don't know if I need it, thnx for the info,,, I just want to make sure our documents are complete before my fiancee's interview


I'm sorry I did not make it clear. The US citzen does not need to supply a Cenomar or NBI clearance only the Beneficiary does for her interview.
hoosierMalePhilippines2008-03-03 13:17:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reportsquestion about Certificate of NO marriage
QUOTE (mox @ Mar 3 2008, 12:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Primie & Ryan @ Mar 2 2008, 10:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hi I am US citizen and I am wondering if also need Certificate of No marriage. I am single and never been married.
We know already that my fiancee need cenomar, but how about me? do I need it. Thank you.

The US citizen does not need anything to prove they're not married. I've not heard of the beneficiary needing this documentation, but perhaps it's required at the Manilla consulate?


I think the Cenomar is a unique item to the Philippines and it is definately a requirement along with an NBI clearance for the interview at the manila embassy.
hoosierMalePhilippines2008-03-03 01:45:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsNOA2!!!! OMG!
QUOTE (~Laura and Nick~ @ Mar 4 2008, 12:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (KimandRuss @ Mar 4 2008, 01:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Congratulations! It's nice to see someone so sweet and supportive of everyone else get what's coming to them!


blush.gif You guys are so nice.
Thank you!



Vermont for the win !!
hoosierMalePhilippines2008-03-04 13:53:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsAny NoVeMBeR filers from CSC who got NOA2???
QUOTE (greeneyedgirlfl @ Mar 9 2008, 09:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (aravis227 @ Mar 9 2008, 10:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (sophee_ya @ Mar 9 2008, 06:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Anyone from CSC filer who received an approval?


Timeline search says no, but it does say that half of the October filers have gotten theirs. Yay! I was hoping some November people might have gotten them already. I love seeing CSC cases approved. It gives me warm fuzzies to see anyone approved...but the CSC ones mean mine is one closer. biggrin.gif kicking.gif


I'm parying for the CSC to get their act together so you guys can get what you need!!!!


Yeah the really stepping it up this week at CSC they approved a whopping 11 K1. Of course VSC approved 29 !

Vermont for the win !!
hoosierMalePhilippines2008-03-09 15:12:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsStunned and amazed
Being able to file at VSC is like hitting the k1 lotto. CSC just started on November filers last week. Just ridiculous.
hoosierMalePhilippines2008-03-17 09:17:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsNOA2 Approved!!!
QUOTE (ArtCess @ Mar 18 2008, 01:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Its early in the morning 3:11 am and I decided to check the website and found out that we our NOA2 was approved yesterday!!!


Very Cool !! Congratz. good.gif

Our timeline pretty much the same, I'm hoping I get the same news today
hoosierMalePhilippines2008-03-18 09:35:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsHOI WE ARE APPROVED WE ARE APROVED NOVEMBER FILERS ITS COMING YOUR WAY
QUOTE (OggyFX51 @ Mar 17 2008, 10:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
thankyou VisaJourney and all the good ppl thank you I love you all , im crying here omg thank you


Congratz good.gif
hoosierMalePhilippines2008-03-18 09:37:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsHow to Shake Your NOA2 Loose from the CSC
QUOTE (rebeccajo @ Mar 24 2008, 09:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Jeraly @ Mar 24 2008, 07:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But what is so great is that you can change roles like that when either of you is feeling low - Jeremy and I did/do the same - if he is having a nightmare time, I become the level-headed one and vice versa biggrin.gif

Just think of it as character-building laughing.gif

Sorry - I developed a terrible (worse) sense of humour during my wait... I don't mean any offense by it - I just learned that if I was feeling cr@ppy about the whole thing then the best thing I could do was look on the bright side of everything and try and find laughter whereever I looked smile.gif

Of course that means that sometimes people think I am being insensitive unsure.gif


I don't think you're being insensitive at all. In fact I think you're being rather smart about it.

Look....here's the deal (IMO). This is US immigration. There's only one way in - and one way out. It's a monopoly; they make the rules; you either play along or you don't play at all. It's a branch of government services (which are sometimes slow and oftentimes impersonal) but it's a different branch in that it's not funded by taxes. So we don't have a 'right' to biyatch about how our tax dollars are being wasted. We are paying fees and some folks look at that as they aren't getting the timely service they pay for. That's not an invalid argument - personally I don't look at it that way because I don't equate the movement of people between nations as something akin to making a purchase.

And (this is the part nobody likes) it's a game our government doesn't have to play. They could close the door if they liked. Really.

This might sound maudlin or like overthinking, but I've never ever taken my husbands admission and continued presence in this country lightly. And that's probably why I still remain in these forums; if there is something I can do to legitimately ease the burden of others then I will do it. I don't think the business of our national security; of the journey of persons from their homeland to a new life; of the building of international families and the joyous blending of cultures that occurs from that - I don't think that's something we accomplish by 'tricks' or by flim-flamming our way through the service.

I've been in the 'blackhole' of USCIS - where NO ONE, not even the most Senior United States Senator, not even a former US Attorney - could help me or my husband. It was frustrating and maddening. We paid for a second EAD so my husband could keep working. He went on job interviews where the employers were perplexed with an EAD when expecting a greencard. We were stonewalled by mortgage lenders who refused to make a loan to someone who wasn't a permanent resident.

But you know what that was? It was just - the system. A system bogged down in archaic technology; inadequate manpower; cumbersome laws that criss cross each other; and the mandate of a President who created the Beast called Homeland Security - a department of our government barely six years old yet second only in national spending to the Defense Department.

And you think you can arm-wrestle that with an RFE trick? Personally, I'd rather not. My husband and me - we just 'lay low' through the waters of immigration and try not to make waves. We use the legal avenues and proven methods to get what we've paid for. But we are always aware that if our government ever decides to 'turn' on immigrants, it won't be the 'illegal' ones they will choose to make an example of.

After all - they don't have their names, addresses and Social Security numbers. But they do have ours.



That's my biggest gripe with this whole process. We spend alot of money for this process. Untold hours tracking down documents and jumping through legal hoops, we get no real answers or information about our cases. We choose to do this process by the correct and legal way. But our leaders and this is both parties do not have the balls to enforce the current immigration laws on the books and deal with the illegals that are here. . Any politician that supports anything other than enforcing our immigration laws and in any way supports giving a free pass to those who chose not to follow the legal process the way us at this site are doing will not ever get a vote from me.



I happen to live in a neighborhood that is primarily immigrants many of whom I know are illegals. I sometimes feel they are just looking at me and laughing. Wondering why anyone would actually pay all that money and go through all that trouble to do it the right way. When all you have to do is sneak across the border or overstay a tourist or student visa and no one will really care.


Any of us that have gone through this process should take this as a direct and personal insult and should be looking to vote for some leaders with guts to address this issue.
hoosierMalePhilippines2008-03-24 22:06:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsHow to Shake Your NOA2 Loose from the CSC
QUOTE (mox @ Mar 18 2008, 01:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Congrats TB, this is really good news. good.gif


Yes it's good to hear things seem to be better. Your trip seemed very short, long way to fly for only like 5 days stay. Keep the faith man.
hoosierMalePhilippines2008-03-18 16:14:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsHow to Shake Your NOA2 Loose from the CSC
QUOTE (estadia @ Mar 9 2008, 05:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (BigCityDave @ Mar 9 2008, 01:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I know some of you may not be religious, but prayer in my opinion could help shake off that NOA2. innocent.gif




smile.gif I think that even the ones that are not very religious end up praying a lot in the end............... whistling.gif


Heck, I'm even considering making an appearance at church.
hoosierMalePhilippines2008-03-10 12:44:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsHow to Shake Your NOA2 Loose from the CSC
QUOTE (rebeccajo @ Mar 8 2008, 06:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (hoosier @ Mar 8 2008, 07:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (rebeccajo @ Mar 8 2008, 05:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't believe TB really cares whether people use the information in an 'appropriate' manner. This thread would have died a natural death more than a week ago if he were not continually resurrecting it. He is more interested in not admitting that his 'method' is improper.

I've been there, done that when it comes to waiting and I know the exasperations. I don't believe we can expect people to come to a rational conclusion about the 'right time' to use this 'method'.

I still cannot get the image out of my mind of someone with an RFE not being able to get through. I don't think TBone cares about that.


Geezuz Rebecca you just can't help yourself. If that isn't clearly a blatant personal attack on Tbone I don't know what is. How and the heck can you be the judge of what TBones motives are or even worse just make accusations of another members character. I'll quote Again from VJ Terms of Service.
Make comments in a Post either direct or implied toward another member that are purposely designed to upset, antagonize, make fun of, belittle, or otherwise instigate an argument that takes away from the personal enjoyment of the Service by other users.

I especially love this quote of yours " I don't believe we can expect people to come to a rational conclusion about the 'right time' to use this 'method'." So in other words Rebecca you believe VJ members are just too stupid to come to their own decision how to use this information, so we might as well just censor it. I think there are still some countries in the world who go by this philosophy with their citizens. Communism or Facism take your pick. Heck some might even be taking immigrant applications whistling.gif



Hoosier -

As you say it's a free country. I'm allowed to think what I want to think about TBone's motives. He's made it clear what he thinks of mine. As have you.

As for 'rational' - when people get upset, they aren't rational. There were many times I was not rational when it cames to my husband's case. It's not a judgment call. It's an observation of human nature.

PS- I'm in the chat room if you'd rather discuss this there.


Wow, we have a chatroom on this site?

I went in from the home page where it had a link for chat, it sent me to a lobby with only me in it, did I go to the right place ? I could not find any other rooms.
hoosierMalePhilippines2008-03-08 19:48:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsHow to Shake Your NOA2 Loose from the CSC
QUOTE (rebeccajo @ Mar 8 2008, 05:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't believe TB really cares whether people use the information in an 'appropriate' manner. This thread would have died a natural death more than a week ago if he were not continually resurrecting it. He is more interested in not admitting that his 'method' is improper.

I've been there, done that when it comes to waiting and I know the exasperations. I don't believe we can expect people to come to a rational conclusion about the 'right time' to use this 'method'.

I still cannot get the image out of my mind of someone with an RFE not being able to get through. I don't think TBone cares about that.


Geezuz Rebecca you just can't help yourself. If that isn't clearly a blatant personal attack on Tbone I don't know what is. How and the heck can you be the judge of what TBones motives are or even worse just make accusations of another members character. I'll quote Again from VJ Terms of Service.
Make comments in a Post either direct or implied toward another member that are purposely designed to upset, antagonize, make fun of, belittle, or otherwise instigate an argument that takes away from the personal enjoyment of the Service by other users.

I especially love this quote of yours " I don't believe we can expect people to come to a rational conclusion about the 'right time' to use this 'method'." So in other words Rebecca you believe VJ members are just too stupid to come to their own decision how to use this information, so we might as well just censor it. I think there are still some countries in the world who go by this philosophy with their citizens. Communism or Facism take your pick. Heck some might even be taking immigrant applications whistling.gif
hoosierMalePhilippines2008-03-08 19:09:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsHow to Shake Your NOA2 Loose from the CSC
QUOTE (rebeccajo @ Mar 8 2008, 03:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I disagree. The line is for people with an RFE. Period.

I am now making a formal request to the Captain that this thread not only be locked, but deleted.


Rebeccajo , I realize that you are a long time respected member of this site. But to use that status to try to influence the moderators to shut down this thread because you don't particularly agree with how some may use this information just goes against the very spirit of what this forum is all about. To me the spirit of this forum is to share information and experiences and to support each other through this long and sometimes frustrating journey.

The Original poster was honestly and clearly sharing his experience with others. He never suggested anyone do anything illegal or unethical. Sure it can be argued that using this RFE line for something other than the purpose it was intended could have consequences. Many people expressed their opinion of what these consequences might be over time possibly positive or possibly negative. But not one person here really knows for sure.

Most in this thread were just trying to simply share there own experiences and opinions on the use of this method. Rebecca you on many occasions in my opinion chose to belittle and insult the intelligence of anyone who disagreed with you or chose to use the method prescribed by the original post. Now I actually appreciate someone with good wit and humor but you used that skill basically to be a smartalec to get your point across.

In fact after reading through all your comments throughout this this thread I'm glad that you have asked the Captain to take a look at this thread. Because in my opinion in many places you violated the Terms of Service of this site. Copied the following directly from the Terms of Service.

Make comments in a Post either direct or implied toward another member that are purposely designed to upset, antagonize, make fun of, belittle, or otherwise instigate an argument that takes away from the personal enjoyment of the Service by other users.

I surely hope the moderators don't close this thread and not because I think the information in this thread is so valuable. But based on principle, just because you don't agree with the content of a thread or it's opinions does not mean you should try to get it closed, as long as it is not violating the terms of this site. This would surely be sending the wrong message.
hoosierMalePhilippines2008-03-08 17:54:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsHow to Shake Your NOA2 Loose from the CSC
QUOTE (TBoneTX @ Mar 7 2008, 04:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It would be nice indeed if people would return to posting their experiences, like Diana says -- both positive and otherwise. If it results that certain of RJ's suppositions are correct, then the method will die a natural death, thus achieving what appears to be her goal. An honest account of people's experiences is what this thread was intended for.


This is where I started this afternoon just simply posting my experience. Then I let myself get sucked into the flame party. Well it made a boring friday afternoon at work a little more interesting laughing.gif

Have a great weekend Everyone !! Even you Rebecca good.gif
hoosierMalePhilippines2008-03-07 17:11:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsHow to Shake Your NOA2 Loose from the CSC
QUOTE (lancer1655 @ Mar 7 2008, 03:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Last post ever on this topic...no offense Tbone but I agree with RJ in that this topic should be closed. Nothing against your method but its quickly spiraling into people just flaming each other (myself included i'll admit).


Yeah the flaming is not really in good spirit of what these boards are all about. I'll refrain from anymore myself.

As far as this thread being closed I get the impression that RJ was and is trying to fan the flames in this post to get the mods to close it. I've seen this tactic used before on other forums. She don't agree with the advice and the easiest way to get her way is to have this post removed because of all the flaming.
hoosierMalePhilippines2008-03-07 16:59:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsHow to Shake Your NOA2 Loose from the CSC
QUOTE (rebeccajo @ Mar 7 2008, 02:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (hoosier @ Mar 7 2008, 03:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Brian & Kathy @ Mar 7 2008, 01:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have avoided posting in this thread and I highly doubt I will again, but I am in agreement with Rebecca.

It is selfish to call the RFE line if your case is still being processed in a timely manner. Yes, we all want nothing more than to be with our loved ones again, but not a one of you is more important than another. Is it really more important that you can find out if your petition is on a desk vs someone being able to find out exactly which document they need to send so their case isn't DENIED? Besides everytime you are talking to an officer, you are taking time in which they could be approving a case. That slows it down for EVERYONE that has a case at CSC, not just K1. What's more, it is a major interuption to get a phone call in the middle of your work. The officer is much more likely to make a mistake then. How would you like an RFE for no good reason other than that the officer was distracted by a phone call and didn't see a document you already sent? That adds on an easy 2-4 weeks to any petition.

Leave them alone to do their work. You'll make it faster for everyone. If they need you, they know how to contact you. Your case won't get lost or pushed behind a desk. You will still be processed in the general order your case was received.

If you want to know what's going on, watch the most recent approvals here on VJ and check your online account at USCIS. I didn't even call the mis-information line during processing because it is a waste of their resources to tell me my petition is still pending. I can clearly see that by the website and know I have a while longer to wait when they are still approving petitions sent 1 month earlier.


Brian and Kathey, Your post of your opinion is nicely put and presents your argument well without attacking or insulting anyone. Although our opinions may differ a bit, one of the purposes of discussion forums such as these is for intelligent discourse.

"your case won't get lost or pushed behind a desk" Actually there are many stories on here of folks who have had their petitions lost or misplaced and have even had to go as far as resubmitting their application and going to the back of the line.

I've paid my fees, followed the procedures, I believe it is my right to know where exactly my file and case are in the system. Their generic basic information that is posted on the website is lacking. There is definately a need for more transparency of where your application is in the process. I am a person who believes in being proactive in all my business dealings. this has served me well in life and I am convinced it has saved me much money, time, grief and aggravation in life. So I feel it is my obligation to my family to do everything in my power to use all the tools available to me.

My problem with Rebeccajo was her tone in ascerting her position. She was frankly rude, judgemental and insulting to me personally, without me even addressing her in my initial post. Rebecca you don't know me or my family or what our situation may be, my responsibily is to my family and no one else.

This reminds me of a saying my father always told me. There are basically 3 types of people in this world. 1) Those who wait for things to happen. 2) Those who make things happen. 3) those who say "What happened"
Which group you choose to belong to is up to you.


I've been in this thread for over a week. I have attempted to remain civil. I have been told that my links were questionable; I have had my personal timeline thrown up in my face; it was implied in the start of the thread that I don't know what I'm talking about and didn't have the knowledge to reply.

I don't believe I have been rude. I have been forthright. I have pointed out that using the system for anything other than its intended purpose is a misuse of that. I stand by that.

If it makes you feel better to consider yourself a 'getting it done' person by abusing something that was put in place to benefit a petitioner who has a legitimate question, well as I said before - good for you.

But don't allow yourself to have that thought and make judgments about what I have said in the same paragraphs, because your halo is slipping bigtime.


Of course I had read the previous posts in the thread and had seen there was a sort of flame war going. If you read my original post I was just relaying my experience today. I did not reference any of the discourse between yourself and the previous posters. Then you reply to my post basically insulting me and dragging me into your little war.

I value your right to an opinion as it also allows for me to have a right to my own. It should not be personal.

innocent.gif My halo is pretty rusty and bent so not much chance of it slipping off ..
hoosierMalePhilippines2008-03-07 16:19:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsHow to Shake Your NOA2 Loose from the CSC
QUOTE (Brian & Kathy @ Mar 7 2008, 01:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have avoided posting in this thread and I highly doubt I will again, but I am in agreement with Rebecca.

It is selfish to call the RFE line if your case is still being processed in a timely manner. Yes, we all want nothing more than to be with our loved ones again, but not a one of you is more important than another. Is it really more important that you can find out if your petition is on a desk vs someone being able to find out exactly which document they need to send so their case isn't DENIED? Besides everytime you are talking to an officer, you are taking time in which they could be approving a case. That slows it down for EVERYONE that has a case at CSC, not just K1. What's more, it is a major interuption to get a phone call in the middle of your work. The officer is much more likely to make a mistake then. How would you like an RFE for no good reason other than that the officer was distracted by a phone call and didn't see a document you already sent? That adds on an easy 2-4 weeks to any petition.

Leave them alone to do their work. You'll make it faster for everyone. If they need you, they know how to contact you. Your case won't get lost or pushed behind a desk. You will still be processed in the general order your case was received.

If you want to know what's going on, watch the most recent approvals here on VJ and check your online account at USCIS. I didn't even call the mis-information line during processing because it is a waste of their resources to tell me my petition is still pending. I can clearly see that by the website and know I have a while longer to wait when they are still approving petitions sent 1 month earlier.


Brian and Kathey, Your post of your opinion is nicely put and presents your argument well without attacking or insulting anyone. Although our opinions may differ a bit, one of the purposes of discussion forums such as these is for intelligent discourse.

"your case won't get lost or pushed behind a desk" Actually there are many stories on here of folks who have had their petitions lost or misplaced and have even had to go as far as resubmitting their application and going to the back of the line.

I've paid my fees, followed the procedures, I believe it is my right to know where exactly my file and case are in the system. Their generic basic information that is posted on the website is lacking. There is definately a need for more transparency of where your application is in the process. I am a person who believes in being proactive in all my business dealings. this has served me well in life and I am convinced it has saved me much money, time, grief and aggravation in life. So I feel it is my obligation to my family to do everything in my power to use all the tools available to me.

My problem with Rebeccajo was her tone in ascerting her position. She was frankly rude, judgemental and insulting to me personally, without me even addressing her in my initial post. Rebecca you don't know me or my family or what our situation may be, my responsibily is to my family and no one else.

This reminds me of a saying my father always told me. There are basically 3 types of people in this world. 1) Those who wait for things to happen. 2) Those who make things happen. 3) those who say "What happened"
Which group you choose to belong to is up to you.
hoosierMalePhilippines2008-03-07 15:40:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsHow to Shake Your NOA2 Loose from the CSC
QUOTE (rebeccajo @ Mar 7 2008, 12:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (hoosier @ Mar 7 2008, 01:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well I could not help myself, I finally had to give this a try on my lunch hour today. I was on hold for about 20 minutes. A representative answered the phone it was a lady with a thick asian accent. I ask her
"why does the recording say requesting more evidence?" She answers, "your case is pending"

I ask "Can you please tell me where in the division my file is now located" Her answer "Sir it is at the California Service Center"

I ask again a bit Differently" I understand it is at the California Service center, but where in the division is it, Has it been assigned to an Adjudicator?" She pauses a second " Sir it is in California Service center and it is currently in pending status"

I Say "I read on the website that cases are processed in the order that they are received and I have friends that have filed after me already have their approvals, Has my case been assigned yet? Her answer " sir I don't think that is possible as they are now only processing K-1 applications from august, we will send you something in the mail it should be a couple more months at the earliest. "

I called mid day here Central time. I have a hard time believing this was an agent, she sure sounded more like an incompetetent drone customer service person to me. Maybe they are on to us and this is no longer going to an actual agent.

Or maybe if the actual agents are all busy it eventually kicks over to generic customer service line.
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If the line is busy - the calls are going to get transferred.

There are not an unlimited number of these 'IO's' sitting at desks to take these calls.

This is why I have stayed in this thread. The line is in place for LEGITIMATE inquiries about an RFE. An RFE grinds a case to a halt. A non-response to an RFE will cause a case denial. A customer may not respond to an RFE if they don't understand it. The line is in place for that purpose.

I honestly don't understand how any of you can, in good conscience, abuse this service by plying the methods advocated in this thread. How would you like to be sitting looking at an RFE and not be able to get through to someone to help you?

This is patent selfishness. Call it 'power to the people' if you like. Anytime a person takes advantage of a 'hole' in a system that has been designed to help those who are truly are in need - especially for a worthless 'feel good' - is an entitlement attitude.

I'm getting really angry about this thread at this point. For two reasons.

Firstly - I see some of you whom I personally have spent a great deal of time assisting you in your cases with legitimate help. Frankly it makes me really mad that I have apparently wasted my time on individuals who are so selfish they would put their needs ahead of others. Why have I spent my time on your case?

Secondly - I am angry at Ewok for not shutting down this thread. It's one thing for our members to discover legitimate shortcuts that can aid in actually speeding a case along. It's quite another to allow information to remain up on this site that could damage cases.


QUOTE (L & P @ Mar 7 2008, 01:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Rebecca ?????

Unless I am mistaking you had your Noa2 within 15 days !!!!! You don't know what waiting means and now that you are with your SO you are not in pain as we are. some might abuse the phone I agree to that ....but we are not like that !!!!


Oh here we go again!

I am SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO sick of hearing this.

Hon, you don't know me. You don't know anything about my life and you don't know the details of my case.

Your little whine is sickening.


oops Double posted for some reason.

Edited by hoosier, 07 March 2008 - 02:21 PM.

hoosierMalePhilippines2008-03-07 14:19:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsHow to Shake Your NOA2 Loose from the CSC
QUOTE (rebeccajo @ Mar 7 2008, 12:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (hoosier @ Mar 7 2008, 01:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well I could not help myself, I finally had to give this a try on my lunch hour today. I was on hold for about 20 minutes. A representative answered the phone it was a lady with a thick asian accent. I ask her
"why does the recording say requesting more evidence?" She answers, "your case is pending"

I ask "Can you please tell me where in the division my file is now located" Her answer "Sir it is at the California Service Center"

I ask again a bit Differently" I understand it is at the California Service center, but where in the division is it, Has it been assigned to an Adjudicator?" She pauses a second " Sir it is in California Service center and it is currently in pending status"

I Say "I read on the website that cases are processed in the order that they are received and I have friends that have filed after me already have their approvals, Has my case been assigned yet? Her answer " sir I don't think that is possible as they are now only processing K-1 applications from august, we will send you something in the mail it should be a couple more months at the earliest. "

I called mid day here Central time. I have a hard time believing this was an agent, she sure sounded more like an incompetetent drone customer service person to me. Maybe they are on to us and this is no longer going to an actual agent.

Or maybe if the actual agents are all busy it eventually kicks over to generic customer service line.
unsure.gif


If the line is busy - the calls are going to get transferred.

There are not an unlimited number of these 'IO's' sitting at desks to take these calls.

This is why I have stayed in this thread. The line is in place for LEGITIMATE inquiries about an RFE. An RFE grinds a case to a halt. A non-response to an RFE will cause a case denial. A customer may not respond to an RFE if they don't understand it. The line is in place for that purpose.

I honestly don't understand how any of you can, in good conscience, abuse this service by plying the methods advocated in this thread. How would you like to be sitting looking at an RFE and not be able to get through to someone to help you?

This is patent selfishness. Call it 'power to the people' if you like. Anytime a person takes advantage of a 'hole' in a system that has been designed to help those who are truly are in need - especially for a worthless 'feel good' - is an entitlement attitude.

I'm getting really angry about this thread at this point. For two reasons.

Firstly - I see some of you whom I personally have spent a great deal of time assisting you in your cases with legitimate help. Frankly it makes me really mad that I have apparently wasted my time on individuals who are so selfish they would put their needs ahead of others. Why have I spent my time on your case?

Secondly - I am angry at Ewok for not shutting down this thread. It's one thing for our members to discover legitimate shortcuts that can aid in actually speeding a case along. It's quite another to allow information to remain up on this site that could damage cases.


QUOTE (L & P @ Mar 7 2008, 01:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Rebecca ?????

Unless I am mistaking you had your Noa2 within 15 days !!!!! You don't know what waiting means and now that you are with your SO you are not in pain as we are. some might abuse the phone I agree to that ....but we are not like that !!!!


Oh here we go again!

I am SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO sick of hearing this.

Hon, you don't know me. You don't know anything about my life and you don't know the details of my case.

Your little whine is sickening.


Rebecca, Your high and mighty stance here does not reflect well on you.

First thing is those of us that have filed since august have paid close to Triple the Fees than they were previously. Now this fee increase was justified as they needed to beef up the system, but instead we are getting slower and poorer service than prior to the fee increase. It is not my fault their system is not capable of handling the volume and me as the customer has the right to use every possible legal tool at my fingertips to find out information or possibly encourage some attention paid to my case.

There happens to be hundreds if not thousands of other K1 cases filed after mine , some up to 2 months after me that have already been processed. The system is broken, is it possible we are actually doing a service to future filers by exposing a flaw in their system? Do I not have the right to call and express my concern and try to get information regarding this situation as it pertains to my case ?

This is not a private company we are dealing with, This is our government, supposedly it is By the people , For the people. It is my right and duty to expose and draw attention to things we feel are wrong with the system.

Rebecca I am a US Citizen, I have paid my fees, followed their procedures. I have broken no laws. I feel I am being treated badly by this system. You or anyone else has no right to judge or criticize me as long as I am not circumventing the law.
hoosierMalePhilippines2008-03-07 14:19:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsHow to Shake Your NOA2 Loose from the CSC
Well I could not help myself, I finally had to give this a try on my lunch hour today. I was on hold for about 20 minutes. A representative answered the phone it was a lady with a thick asian accent. I ask her
"why does the recording say requesting more evidence?" She answers, "your case is pending"

I ask "Can you please tell me where in the division my file is now located" Her answer "Sir it is at the California Service Center"

I ask again a bit Differently" I understand it is at the California Service center, but where in the division is it, Has it been assigned to an Adjudicator?" She pauses a second " Sir it is in California Service center and it is currently in pending status"

I Say "I read on the website that cases are processed in the order that they are received and I have friends that have filed after me already have their approvals, Has my case been assigned yet? Her answer " sir I don't think that is possible as they are now only processing K-1 applications from august, we will send you something in the mail it should be a couple more months at the earliest. "

I called mid day here Central time. I have a hard time believing this was an agent, she sure sounded more like an incompetetent drone customer service person to me. Maybe they are on to us and this is no longer going to an actual agent.

Or maybe if the actual agents are all busy it eventually kicks over to generic customer service line.
unsure.gif
hoosierMalePhilippines2008-03-07 13:06:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsHow to Shake Your NOA2 Loose from the CSC
QUOTE (kmgts @ Mar 1 2008, 12:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (TBoneTX @ Feb 19 2008, 12:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
(Apologies for encroaching on Mox) To the immigration people, "expedite" is for Cuban applications, emergency asylum applications, military applications, and (only for the very few) TRULY emergent personal circumstances (life-or-death matters, if even those!). Mox may have a more complete explanation.


TBone, you mentioned military applications as far as expediting applications. I am a military member, does that mean I should have done something different, or maybe that it would benefit me to call now even though I am a possible month or two out from my NOA2.

BTW long time reader/first time poster......This is a wonderful site and community


From my understanding of the military expedite is not for simply being military it's more for cases where you going to be deployed overseas and you can be expedited to avoid conflicts with the deployment.
hoosierMalePhilippines2008-03-01 14:16:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsNOA2 in the mail today !!
Thanks a bunch everyone.!!

If it wasn't for this site and all the great people this I think I would be crazy by now.
hoosierMalePhilippines2008-03-25 23:54:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsNOA2 in the mail today !!
I received the NOA2 hard copy in the mail today!! Odd part is it still shows us as pending on the website just a touch on 3-20.

Today is my birthday, so this is my best birthday present ever biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Thanks everyone here for all their support!!
hoosierMalePhilippines2008-03-25 17:05:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsNOA2!!!!!!!! YAYYYYYYYYY
Conrats jest.gif
hoosierMalePhilippines2008-03-26 17:26:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsNovember Filer NOA2 APPROVED
Congratz good.gif

There is definately something odd going on with CSC and them updating on the website. My file is now at the embassy in Manila and it still says on the website that my application is Pending. All I got was the NOA2 letter via snail mail on 3/25 and our approval date was 3/20.
hoosierMalePhilippines2008-04-07 13:41:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsWhere is the "black hole" between CSC and NVC???
QUOTE (jzoom6 @ Apr 3 2008, 01:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I wonder if distance has anything to do with the time, which I imagine it would to some small extent.

The distance from the VSC to the NVC is around 200~ miles, which is a couple hours tops.

The distance from the CSC to the NVC is around 3000~ miles, which is quite a trek, either by plane or truck.

If you want to test them out, try maps.google.com and use Portsmouth, NH as the END and Laguna Niquel, CA or Saint Albans, VT as the BEGIN...quite the difference I must say!


Well this is almost irrelevent. Maybe the differnce in istance should add 2 days to the time. The difference is of policy and procedure,VSC sends them out to the NVC within a day or 2. CSC will sit on them sometimes for weeks until they get a sizable amount of them (Fill a pallet?) to send all at once.

Bad enough CSC takes way longer to approve our applications compared to VSC then to add insult to injury they take their sweet time sending them to NVC.

Like another poster referenced, it appears one service center is definately managed better than the other. If a private business were to serve their customers in this manner, they would not last very long.
hoosierMalePhilippines2008-04-03 15:33:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsNovember Filers - CSC
I received the NOA2 hard copy in the mail today!! Odd part is it still shows us as pending on the website just a touch on 3-20.

Today is my birthday, so this is my best birthday present ever biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Thanks everyone here for all their support!!
hoosierMalePhilippines2008-03-25 17:13:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsNovember Filers - CSC
QUOTE (Ms. Hellwig @ Mar 20 2008, 02:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Woo-hoo! I am now at #68!!! Yippeee kicking.gif

There are alot of October people still ahead of me though. I really wish I could take a tour of the CSC facility to see what really happens.

Also, are the petitions reviewed by country where the fiance is located? There seems to be quite a few approved from Phillipines. Or are there just more people with Phillipino fiances using this message board? Does anyone have statistics on that?


Basically there is Just alot of k1 from the Philippines. If you look on the stats page, it's almost as many k1 from the PI than all other countries combined.

I may be a bit biased, but Filipinas are the sweetest and most beautiful women in the world. tongue.gif
hoosierMalePhilippines2008-03-20 14:42:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsNovember Filers - CSC
QUOTE (BlakeandOlha @ Mar 13 2008, 04:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (L & P @ Mar 13 2008, 03:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
laughing.gif I am 24th on the list (October filer) and getting more than obsessive with lists and stats...I hope it will come soon ....before I lost my head

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That goes for you too!! laughing.gif

2 touches in 3 days, I'm really starting to get anxious unsure.gif
hoosierMalePhilippines2008-03-13 18:45:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsNovember Filers
I received the NOA2 hard copy in the mail today!! Odd part is it still shows us as pending on the website just a touch on 3-20.

Today is my birthday, so this is my best birthday present ever biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Thanks everyone here for all their support!!

November CSC are slowly but surely get approved. Iguess all those touches mean something!
hoosierMalePhilippines2008-03-25 17:19:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsNovember Filers
QUOTE (RyaNRiza @ Mar 11 2008, 09:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We got approved for NOA2 today from CSC.

-Ryan

Congrats ! We got out 1st ever touch on Monday.. I almost feel dirty unsure.gif Let the November CSC party begin
hoosierMalePhilippines2008-03-12 01:27:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsNovember Filers
QUOTE (seabass @ Mar 2 2008, 05:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I checked the email this morning and I GOT APPROVED!!!!!

I was shaking as I clicked the email kicking.gif

I wish all of you still waiting for NOA2 best of luck and quick approval. Thanks VisaJourney.com~


Congrats good.gif

Vermont for the Win !!
hoosierMalePhilippines2008-03-04 20:08:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsNovember Filers
QUOTE (debbylyn @ Mar 3 2008, 12:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Congrats! Glad something is happening for someone!

I called CSC today and was told by a very nice immigration officer that my petition is still on a shelf.....they are currently working on October filers...she said mine may be another month....so all you Oct., Nov. filers...mayb e good news soon!


All us CSC filers are so lucky. We paid triple the previous fee to get triple with the wait time. it appears they are going to take pretty much the full 6 months to approve our application. Seems like a bunch of ####### considering the Vermont filers from January are already getting approvals.
hoosierMalePhilippines2008-03-03 13:23:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsNovember Filers
QUOTE (Queen Jenn @ Feb 29 2008, 11:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Congrats to all those who have been approved (ALL from VSC, I might add). But for those of us at CSC, it's getting closer . . . I can smell it tongue.gif


This just reinforces my opinion of anything to do with California. I just keep praying our application gets approved before another natural disaster hits like an earthquake or mudslides or big fires that god seems to throw at California every so often.

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hoosierMalePhilippines2008-02-29 12:24:00