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Africa: Sub-SaharanThanks everyone!
QUOTE (aba anoma @ May 18 2009, 05:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi everyone!

I just wanted to let you know that my husband's visa was approved today in Accra. He was in and out of the embassy in an hour! I guess they called his name first- perhaps it's done alphabetically. Anyway, while I haven't posted much on VJ recently, I have definitely used it as a resource/support group/sanity-maintainer for the past 10 months and I wanted to thank you all for your support, advice, and encouragement!

Best wishes to everyone still in the process!

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CONGRATS!!! Enjoy this day and the many more to come! :dance1 I would love to see Ghana, have a friend living here from there. Hope your reuniting is a refreshment and energizes you after the draining months. HAPPY day!!!
Afrilaskan QueenFemaleNigeria2009-05-18 20:41:00
Africa: Sub-SaharanHow did you prepare for the Interview?
QUOTE (reeses16 @ Jun 24 2009, 09:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm not sure what the potential interview questions you looked at were. But some of them only apply to certain stages. For example, when were were engaged and my then fiance lived in Ethiopia there would be no reason for him to know my vehicle license plate number. (In fact, if I was a CO and a fiance could answer this question it might make me suspicious. I would think they just memorized a bunch of facts about someone, not that they were in a relationship ). If he was asked this at the K1 stage, I would have expected him to say something like "I don't know her plate number. But I know she drives a black ford truck and she talks about how much she loves having a truck. I think I have a picture of her with her car in my album." Now if we were married,and at an AOS or ROC interview I would expect him to say something like "I don't know our license number, but its in our insurance documents, I can show you the paper work from the insurance company." This is just speculation, but I would think there are different expectations at different phases, and that there can be a range of acceptable answers.

I think its fine just to know in general where relatives live- like neighborhood, city, or state. No need to get into house number etc.

Highly personal questions are not common. My attitude is that they are of course inappropriate, but the CO/Interviewer has something I want (an approval) and if I or my hubby need to answer the question we will. There is a tactful way to answer everything. For example, if you are asked "How often do you have sex?" Depending on how private a person you are you can answer the question or say, "I think that question is a little too personal. But I will tell you that my husband and I have a happy sex life that we both enjoy."


As far as not having a copy of your documents, you could just fill out new ones and send them to your husband so that the two of you can practice.

I also wanted to mention again to give your hubby advice about eye contact and voice. In some cultures it is rude to look someone in the eye or talk loudly. But the COs are Americans and they may perceive someone who refuses to look them in the eye or speaks very low as deceptive. Even check the inflection of your SOs voice. When they answer a question, does it sound like they are answering or rather that they are answering a question with a question.


I don't think everyone practices to this extent. But my hubby was nervous and it made us both feel better prepared for the interview.



Reese's16,

Thanks again for all this helpful information, I too do not want my Hubby to be nervous so I too think it will make us BOTH feel better - lol. Thanks for the extra pointers about body language and voice, like you were saying every culture has a different set of unspoken ques. I am nervous about that just because my own husband is very shy in many respects and will worry about whether he may stammer if he does not feel calm and well prepared.

Also appreciate your point of view on the context of the questions. Like your example of the license plate. That's what concerns me, my Hubby tends to speak the minimal to others, it's easier for him to open to me... I'm concerned he will be so shy that he doesn't make it personable. Somehow I have to help him see that he can draw his heart out for the interviewer, not just for me and our close family.

p.s. I found the mock interview questions here on the site, under beneficiary and petitioner questions.

Thank You Kindly,
Afrilaskan QueenFemaleNigeria2009-06-25 06:49:00
Africa: Sub-SaharanHow did you prepare for the Interview?
QUOTE (reeses16 @ Jun 24 2009, 04:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You would prep for it the way one would for any interview.

(1) Review the paperwork- its the USC who normally does most of the work. So your foreign SO may not be as familiar with specific dates, and titles of positions you held in the past. Also you can help with the pronunciation of places. I always had a lot of problems remembering and saying the names of places in Ethiopia that I was not personally familiar with; my hubby had the same problems with US cities. But if you followed the VJ guidelines your SO and you should both have exact copies of your petition and additional evidence, this makes it easier to review the paperwork together on the phone.

(2) Mock interview- Focus on questions from the paperwork. Do not ask it in an orderly way. They CO will most likely ask questions related/based on the paperwork somehow. Through in random questions to see how your SO thinks on their feet and how they approach questions they don't know. Also advise them on the eye contact, voice, and remind them its okay to ask for help understanding a question ("can you please repeat the question?" I didn't understand, can you ask the question differently?".

In regards to inappropriate questions. My hubby was never asked any, but his plan was to respond tactfully and succinctly.



Reeses16,

Thank you for these suggestions and some of your experience. I read through all of the info on VJ. We should have copies of the petition, it is irretrievably gone, but should match the I-129 petition. We sent an addendum just to be certain all the dates were written correct on the I-130 that was done over 2 years ago that we have no copy of... [yes, that has made me nervous! it was done a year prior to the I129.]

Thank you for your suggestion on pronunciation, I too cannot pronounce some of his family's name's etc.. easily, very good point!

When I read through the potential interview questions on this site I was struck by the oddness of some of the questions. For example, vehicle license number??? I would never know that and I can't imagine memorizing such a fact would be considered normal, we're not FBI here...lol. Are you really supposed to know the answer to that odd of a question?

Also another question I have is if asked for where your relative live's, how specific do they want - like address or just the general area?

Thank you for focusing my mind. I have read individuals being asked highly person questions about their marriage and I wondered what that was all about, since there is nothing of that nature in the approved petitions.

Bye for now,
Afrilaskan QueenFemaleNigeria2009-06-24 19:58:00
Africa: Sub-SaharanHow did you prepare for the Interview?
Hi Fellow VJ'ers,

I've often read on the site that individuals here feel if you prepare your foreign SO very well that the interview will likely result in success. I'm not so sure it's that simple but I would like to hear any and all tips about how to prepare and have a smooth interview. How do you pinpoint the issues that may arise in your own interview so that you are prepared to address them?

I'm asking this question because I am so concerned about doing this correctly. Some people are very good at interviews for jobs etc, I'm definately a nervous wreck popping xanax and such...lol. The best way for me to combat is to prepare.

For example, today it occured to me that between visits me and my husband had to be separate for about 2 years, never thought of it as a issue because there were valid serious reasons for the length of time - however, another VJ post indicated they were concerned how that would be viewed. Point being, I never thought about it as something to defend against potentially - are there other areas of concern that will need to be addressed that I'm not aware of. Any pointing in the right direction is most appreciated!

Also how do you handle inappropriate questions asked? You cannot record or have a transcript and last time my guy was asked inappro. questions.

Thanks,
Afrilaskan QueenFemaleNigeria2009-06-24 16:31:00
Africa: Sub-Saharanjust a few days to leave prepare for interview and have questions!
QUOTE (Y's_habibitk @ Jun 29 2009, 04:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just want to say that Im SO happy that you guys got some movement on your case and will get another interview.
GOOD LUCK!


Thanks! I'm relieved to have some movement on the our case... star_smile.gif
Afrilaskan QueenFemaleNigeria2009-06-29 17:37:00
Africa: Sub-Saharanjust a few days to leave prepare for interview and have questions!
Hi Mrs. J, yes this is good news! I'm in a bit of shock as everything turned around with just one phone call. Our case is at NVC still so still awaiting all the news from the Senator's office. I am told to prepare for an interview. I'm excited that me and my Hubby might interview together. I'm just hoping everything goes well now. I wonder if they will be easy on us since we've been married over 2 years Now...I don't expect anything to be easy...lol.

Thanks for the encouragement Mrs. J - I'm still in shock but thanks to the group here who gave advice to call and knock at NVC's and CIS back door - that is how I found the info that was needed to move this along. Now I want to rely on God and be prepared, keep what is important in front of me and enjoy and live in the moment.
Afrilaskan QueenFemaleNigeria2009-06-29 06:58:00
Africa: Sub-Saharanjust a few days to leave prepare for interview and have questions!
Hi Everyone please help - I just got notification that I may have to get everything under the sun together for an interview for spouse within a few days and I'm also leaving the country at the same time! I'm excited about a possible interview but notice was so fast that I'm ill prepared. CIS forwarded everything after concluding that everything was handled incorrectly, I wish I had time to explain more.

This could be good or bad, I'm being told our I-130 could be denied like the I-129 at the interview. We don't even know why the I-129 was denied, they've been reviewing it for a year and a half but are sending our I-130 onward. So I don't know how to address any questions about the I-129, I know the mistakes we made but I have no idea what they think.

I'm having all this information flooding in every direction and I'm sleep deprived. I'm hoping someone on this site can help me focus. I got a letter from the lawyer and I've copied their statements below with my questions in bold. I want to be sure to walk in so prepared at this interview. If you have any thoughts about Lagos/experience and can answer my questions soon I'd most appreciate it!

If there is anything you can’t get done in time to mail with the other originals, you are allowed to ask permission to bring that to the interview. [Can we really bring out originals to the interview? Because they lost everything before I'm a wreck about mailing anything!]

Because you have been married for over two years they will be substantially easier on you. They will give you back your originals [marriage certificate etc.] at this interview. o[I find this unlikely, is this true?]

BE SURE you bring in all of your originals not requested by or sent to NVC. What originals is this like tax returns or emails or what???

But it does matter that you come prepared. They notice this. They will probably not ask you about the denied I-129F and it will be nice for you if they don’t. They will be aware of it, though. [b][Will they really not ask about our denied I-129? she's not preparing us for that, our review did not complete so we do not even know why it was denied.]

By interviewing you two together, they will get to see the good faith of your marriage first hand. [Do they really interview I-130 in Lagos together?]

AFTER THE INTERVIEW, they will take passport so they can put the immigrant visa (permanent residence) into it. They will either instruct you to come back and pick it up or they will mail it by courier to you. If you want to come back, as for this. (They can sometimes do it on the spot while you wait, but this is rare.) Make sure you get a letter authorizing you to come back into the Consulate if that is the plan.. [Is that how it usually has done?]



Afrilaskan QueenFemaleNigeria2009-06-28 22:16:00
Africa: Sub-SaharanDoes FBI or Immigration call?
QUOTE (Efia06 @ Jun 22 2009, 06:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks for your replies. My husband has been getting calls saying they are from fbi asking for his birthdate. I told him to never give out any information unless he called them and even then to be very careful. I didnt thinkfbi would call but just checking. we cant check our status online. the number we have doesnt work so we are in the dark about where his application for gc is. my husband said to tell yall to tell your S.O.s to be very careful who they give their cell number too because he gave it to one ghanaian man here who seemed very friendly and now he is getting all these calls. He said maybe they think cause he is newly in america that he is a bulu bulu (not sure of spelling, its my husbands word that means knuckle head (loose translation)). thanks smile.gif



Efia06' I think you're very smart! I am not sure if that is the fbi calling but I too would not be giving out information, I'd take their ID and name and let them know you all will contact the FBI with your info to talk at a better time. Glad to hear nothing bad has happened. All the Best.
Afrilaskan QueenFemaleNigeria2009-06-23 00:09:00
Africa: Sub-SaharanDoes FBI or Immigration call?
QUOTE (Efia06 @ Jun 19 2009, 10:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Does the FBI ever call the applicant when doing a background check? or does uscis ever call to verify information with us?


I have never heard of the FBI calling the applicant - you, but I think I've heard of background checks of individuals going to people's homes or area to confirm certain facts like for example, one person wrote here on the website that they investigators went to her home to confirm she was indeed single. I am not sure if that is accurate, it was posted here and people can write anything on the internet.

I do think uscis calls to ask for more information whenever they need it because they did that with my family member. I wonder if you're worried about something in particular or if you're hoping to find out if there is information receive. Someone here mentioned to me the freedom of information act in requesting information about the FBI that has been found on you. I have no idea what that is either since I've never done that.

I hope that's somewhat helpful - you must have asked this question because you have a concern of some sort. All the Best.
Afrilaskan QueenFemaleNigeria2009-06-19 21:06:00
Africa: Sub-Saharanwho has similar experience at the US embassy in Lagos,Nigeria
Oh my this is so stressful for both you and your wife. I am curious how you felt you were treated at the Embassy?

So this attorney that your wife has contacted, what papers are they asking for? I wonder if they're a local lawyer, whether they deal with immigration denials specifically too. With immigration lawyers they do not have to be local for you to acquire them and that can help you to find the proper one. I only say that because it is a lot of money, I am wondering if the lawyer wanted to sign a contract for the amount paid as well? If you can find an attorney that is on AILA - this is an immigration lawyer association that only has members in good standing before the legal bar association etc. I only suggested looking at this because so many people without knowing it end up with a lawyer that costs money and time and does not do things properply - but I'm sure your wife is taking that into consideration. I'm so sorry for your struggle.

From the questions that they asked you it does sound like the length of time you've known each other and the Internet meeting were significant to them but also I'm sure the answers were on the approved petition. Did you have a copy of the approved petition? I am sure your answers matched your wife's answers - sometimes looking at the wording on the petition can be helpful. I'm so sorry I wish I had more helpful information to give you. I do think that embassy's must be suspicious of Internet meeting and yet it's a new world and that's how many people are meeting now, so perhaps they don't have a sophisticated way of weeding out the good and bad yet.

Keep us posted about your case and ask as many questions as you need. I'm sorry I can't be more helpful but I wish you the best.
Afrilaskan QueenFemaleNigeria2009-06-21 17:07:00
Africa: Sub-Saharanwho has similar experience at the US embassy in Lagos,Nigeria
QUOTE (Zee Bee @ Jun 18 2009, 05:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You need to start by reading this forum: http://www.visajourn...?showtopic=3896

You will find some answers there.

Good luck rose.gif


I'm sorry to hear your news - I imagine this was a shock for you, and I'm not sure what all you've gone through. I know many have been denied visa's at Lagos and other Embassy's. I believe if your case was just denied you need to try to get it not to leave Lagos and act fast! I'm not sure if you have legal counsel or can get it, but I would try to now. Sometimes a case can stay 2 months in Lagos, othertimes they forward it on in a week or two... if you can keep it there for a reinterview you have got to try! I believe some people contact state Senator's too at this point in the game.

Keep in mind that an consulate interviewer cannot deny a visa - they've likely recommended it be revoked and are sending it for review back to the US at a service center for immigration where uscis will determine the facts and allow you a rebuttal. But the review can take some disheartening amount of time. So I really urge you to speak to someone who can give you very accurate and fast advice - there may even be a step by step guide on this site that I am not aware of.

Also keep in mind that many people are denied and the denial is overturned or the needed proof to overcome any objection is shown and your petition is sent back through the system and back onto what would be Lagos in your case.

I was trying to find out if it is you or your mate who went to the interview? Either way you need to write down every detail you can remember of that interview, remember the ascending order such as walked through gate, such and such happened, went to this room, such and such happened. Write down the name/and/or description of the interviewer. Then try to remember with complete accuracy all questions and answers - no guesses - just what you remember. The goal is to try to find out why you may have been denied. For example, if any answers to questions are a bit off from the answers on the approved IR-1 that is an problem. Or if the person being interviewed refuses to answer a question - there are many points to look at.

You should have been informed why there was an denial.

I'm suspecting it has to do with having met on the internet??? All internet relationships will be looked at with suspicion, really actually anyone who walks in the door for an interview is likely considered suspicious - you can only present all the evidence that is contrary to that suspicion. So many people meet by internet that marriage fraud has become a huge concern - perhaps it makes you feel like your relationship is degraded and that could be heart breaking, because from your words you asked if it is a crime to meet on the internet. Hang in there, because while many use the internet to committ crime - it is the individual that matters, you need to gather proof that discounts whatever proofs they have. In the end perseverence and the truth prevail! Hang in there.

All the Best
Afrilaskan QueenFemaleNigeria2009-06-19 21:20:00
Africa: Sub-SaharanSOOOOOOOOOOOO RELIEVED
Huge Congratulations to you and your wife!!! dancin5hr.gif dancin5hr.gif dancin5hr.gif dancin5hr.gif
Afrilaskan QueenFemaleNigeria2009-05-19 19:33:00
Africa: Sub-SaharanPicking packet from Lagos consulate
QUOTE (zariagirl @ Jul 30 2009, 06:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi everyone! Well, my SO went to the embassy to pick up the instruction packet but was told that due to construction, he would have to direct his enquiry to 'LagosIV@state.gov'. My questions are, has anyone else's SO emailed them for the packet? What was the response? Should I email or call them myself? I'm rather concerned that the clock is ticking. I appreciate any response. Thanks!!!


Keep up the good work! I had the same problem, my hubby never did receive his packet and we emailed, lawyer emailed, eventually the senator was involved and ultimately we had just a few days notice for his interview after emailing for two months straight, then my hubby couldn't get in the building because he didn't have the original interview letter. That packet is important so stay on it for sure! I know it's nervewrecking but it will be ok, just keep copies of your emails.

All the Best! star_smile.gif

Afrilaskan QueenFemaleNigeria2009-08-23 11:33:00
Africa: Sub-SaharanTravel to Nigeria 3 times
[quote name='MONIQ' date='Sep 13 2009, 03:30 AM' post='3306204']
Africqueen,

Thank you so very much for your reply. Its really hard for me. And even harder to keep traveling to Nigeria to see him. Please keep us in your prayers.

Hi again Moniq,

When I read your responce today I remember my own feelings. I'm working hard to bring my husband home too and it's very costly - the cost of traveling and staying in Nigeria, being safe in a unstabe political environment, and also the phone bills - do I KNOW about the phone bills! I have a modest income, and had to save for two years to visit him again. It's not easy. With God all things are possible. I noticed others also suggested you contact your Senator, they can fight for you with people on levels that you are not able to talk to - I definitely hope you're able to get contacted with them. you're going to make it through this, one day at a time.

Take Care,
Afrilaskan QueenFemaleNigeria2009-09-14 02:11:00
Waivers (I-601 and I-212) and Administrative Processes (221g)SHOCKED BEYOND BELIEF!!!!!!!
Ok, that's really weird. Of course you are devestated - that is the fastest rollercoaster ride ever.

Have you heard anything new yet? I would think it must be a glitch in the system to get a denial and an approval. I have to be honest I am not familiar with these two petitions you filed and have no experience in them, but I have found that customer service also only can read what is on the screen in their computer. I called them today about something to do with my case and they were unable to be have any help so I called National Visa Center [in my case] and it helped a bit - I have no idea who you call in this situation. I hope someone here does.

I wonder if the approval notices and the denial notices have different codes or numbers? You know how when you call to ask about an update, an approval notice might have some kind of code or numbers you repeat to them to look it up on. I would see if those numbers for the denial and approval letters match. Perhaps you were sent someone else's denial or something.

To wait 2 years and have this happen is horrible. If you call again and get no headway I guess I would say you need to talk to someone but who that is I don't know, senator. very good lawyer, someone higher up in the uscis chain, I have no idea. Someone help here! My thoughts are with you!
Afrilaskan QueenFemaleNigeria2009-05-28 20:14:00
Waivers (I-601 and I-212) and Administrative Processes (221g)2 years since denial - no review yet
QUOTE (NigeriaorBust @ Dec 6 2009, 05:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I am a K1 so I don't exactly know the I130 process. Did you pay all the fees at the NVC for the 130 and if so when ? Are you sure the I130 has been considered abandoned ? You need to find the I 130 I am not sure if you can file another 129 if the 130 has been approved. Don't count on anyone at this moment track it down yourself.


Hi NigeriaorBust,

I never paid fees to NVC. That is how I am certain our I-130 went there. However our lawyer didn't push that issue on CIS. I am sure the I-130 is not considered abandoned. It is CIS that says they've been reviewing it to decide to revoke/deny - reapprove, etc. I guess I am wondering if it's significant that NVC never sent the I-130 back to CIS. What if CIS had it all this time? I have in writing that NVC never had that case number. But if CIS had it all of this time, why would they do this to us? Why would they lie and say it was at the consulate when it was never at NVC? And if it wasn't is it significant and how would I go about tracking it down? I did the FOIA and am still in waiting.

All of this makes me panic a bit when I think that they will possibly revoke us. It just doesn't sound right. I don't know why the lawyer hasn't pointed it out, perhaps there is no point. They claim to have the I-130. However I had called CIS and been tracking down the I-130 when I realized that it was MIA. It was just after I contacted NVC and found that they never had our I-130 that suddenly CIS said that month they had JUST received the I-130 after it sat at the Consulate for a year??

I feel like if I can get to the bottom of this it will be of help. The lawyer we have said we may never know the "consular's findings" from the interview. Is that true?

That comment and the lawyer's not knowing our I-129 was expired and not validated is what has made me question whether they are looking and doing things correctly because otherwise have been really good to deal with. I also was the one who did some calls that found out the I-130 had indeed not existed at NVC.

This is our life though. I want to be sure nothing is missing and nothing has gone bad. We don't want to have kids until we're together and our life is on hold. I don't want to risk anything. If I need to contact the ombsbudsman or get new legal advice I will have to. We're out of money but I can try.
Afrilaskan QueenFemaleNigeria2009-12-06 22:51:00
Waivers (I-601 and I-212) and Administrative Processes (221g)2 years since denial - no review yet
The only other detailed information I could think to give you is that the responces received have been to the senator's office.

The first email stated a standard 12-24 month wait. We were all surprised as the senator had reasons solid valid reasons to expedite us.

Later we found info that could expedite matters.. based on more information. At that time we were given a 6 months wait and informed that although it had been 1 year the other petition - the I-130 had just been returned and that needed now to be reviewed and the standard wait time was 6 months.

The time passed. Now 9 months and the senator has contacted again.

You said to be persistant and keep calling uscis. Do you mean keep calling the supervisors or the standard customer service people?
Afrilaskan QueenFemaleNigeria2009-12-06 20:50:00
Waivers (I-601 and I-212) and Administrative Processes (221g)2 years since denial - no review yet
QUOTE (NigeriaorBust @ Dec 6 2009, 07:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You have followed up on the I 129 and it is expired , what was the response to your last service request on the I 130 case number and when did you make it ? Have you contacted an Ombudsman yet ? Nigeria is an evil consulate to deal with and bend the rules all the time.


Hi NigeriaorBust,

Thanks for your responce as well. I assumed since the senator's office has checked the status of our case many times and has again this last week that I did not need to contact the Ombudsman - is that a false idea?

Also I will feel like an idiot - I posted it in my last post. I am wondering what the "service request" is? is it formal? If I think I know what you mean - the senator's office was told that it was apprx. 6 months to process and review a returned I-130, that was May 2009. The lawyer anticipated contact in October. So when December arrived that is why the Senator has now contacted again.

Perhaps things are being handled the way that they can?? There has just been so many off the wall problems

The ONLY paper I have received on the I-130 was in the summer that our case was sent to NVC. After the standard 90 days I called and stated it was not there and that's when I found out the I-130 did not go to NVC.

Thanks for following up and sharing your thoughts...
Afrilaskan QueenFemaleNigeria2009-12-06 20:43:00
Waivers (I-601 and I-212) and Administrative Processes (221g)2 years since denial - no review yet
QUOTE (byran910 @ Dec 6 2009, 07:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You have to know the whole process and that very petition filed has a time line . A returned I 130 petition take average of ten months to be reviewed and adj . Since it is over a year ,you should contact (CIS Ombudsman Form DHS-7001) at http://www.dhs.gov/f...orial_0497.shtm and file out that form . They would check to verify why your petition has not being processed . What was the reason the two petition were returned and what is the status online on the uscis web site . You have to be persistent and keep calling the uscis and researching your case. When u Call the uscis number with I 129 and I 130 what is the status of your case .



Hi bryan910, I am wondering - you said I should contact the omsbudsman, I've thought of it before but I thought also that since the senator's office is doing the same thing did I not need to contact the omsbudmans. The office is supposed to hear information this week I wonder if I should go ahead and contact the omsbudsman anyhow.

I appreciate you mentioning this. I've thought of it but our lawyer hasn't thought it necessary. You say a RETURNED petition takes 10 months to be reviewed. It is 9 months since that file was returned. BUT it was a year prior to that file being returned that our interview occurred. That is why I say they had our case 12 months and then returned it to CIS (supposedly) and that's the added 9 months tacked on.

I've kept calling uscis. I've talked to supervisors even. I've only ever received one piece of paper regarding our I-130 since that interview nearly two years ago. That notice said that petition was going to NVC. But that did not happen. The standard 90 days came and so I contacted and researched and someone at CIS said the paper was incorrect and we were not reapproved.

I have a question - everyone asks about the "service order" I last received. What is that?

My status has remained exactly the same online and on the phone for the past two years. If our review is in process or has finally come about it is now my concern that our review and reapproval be handled correctly. Any suggestion?

I really appreciate your responce. May I ask, you said you are in the same position - how long has your review been going on?
Afrilaskan QueenFemaleNigeria2009-12-06 20:35:00
Waivers (I-601 and I-212) and Administrative Processes (221g)2 years since denial - no review yet
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I am in the same process ,but i need you to give details of when the I-129 and the I-130 was filed . You don,t have to wait two years to have your petition reviewed and the embassy cannot hold your I-130 for 12months . There alot of things you can do right away than wait and i am will to help you once you respond
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Hi, Thanks for your responce. I am interested - you said you are in the same process. You asked when our petitions were filed. You mean originally?

I filed the I-130 in.. mid-2007, and in late 2007 our lawyer filed the I-129.
They were approved the same day early in 2008.
Our interview was in 2008.

I really doubt the embassy did hold our file for 12 months. It's a long story. One that I'm trying to figure out. It doesn't seem to be something our lawyer wants to pursue. The senator contacted CIS about our file in the last week. The lawyer believes we'll be reapproved. after all that has occurred and been mishandled I feel hesitant to believe that's true, but I hate to be unhopeful either.

Our interview was for the I-129, in summer of 2008 was the interview.
And it was one year later in May 2009 that our I-130 was returned by CIS by NVC/the Consulate....

I am certain the consulate did not hold our I-130. I had no knowledge that they ever had it

So our I-129 came back to the US pronto after the interview .. The senator tried to reverse it before it ever left the consulate because of problems in the interview. So they were very expedient in returning our file back to you US within 2 weeks. And they held onto our I-130 - I don't think so, I have no material proof ever entered NVC or the consulate - ever. that separate number doesn't exist in NVC system. I never got the AOS fees. This seems significant to me since now they're reevaluating whether to reapprove our I-130 based on the I-129 interview.

Of course I am praying as more information is looked into that we are just reapproved. But we have waited this year and a half to get any information from California about our case being reviewed. I got the letter that said the I-129 had expired and could reapply. But I already knew this. I had discovered through some research and talking one time to a different lawyer that this was the case.

I am anxiously awaiting your information. I hope you followed all of this information I gave you.



Afrilaskan QueenFemaleNigeria2009-12-06 07:38:00
Waivers (I-601 and I-212) and Administrative Processes (221g)2 years since denial - no review yet
I am curious if anyone here who was denied a visa for their fiance or spouse that have been reviewed in the US and had their case returned to the Consulate.

We're about 2 years out with no movement since our denial. We should be coming up to the review soon.

If so I wondered what was involved in your rebuttal. I realize it's countering the reasons for the denial, were you given a letter about why you were denied? We've never found out why. Yes, we have a lawyer and made strong solid guesses. The lawyer we have is using the rebuttal to concentrate on our strong relationship evidence. I wonder if that is how your rebuttal was presented or if you found legal reasons the findings were inaccurate.

Our denial was the "not enough evidence of bonafied relationship." So for last two years just gathered the weekly/daily phone records, my travel to my husband/pictures etc.

How does it compare to your own? I also wonder what happens when you're revoked. I just can't imagine it. I feel in shock as is my family and friends and my hubby's - our relationship is grounded and close, our families know each other.

Our lawyer who cares and knows our case in and out that will give our info and evidence for review. I just wondered how it was handled by different lawyers or families. Because of the time wait I've gone through periods of wondering if we needed a different lawyer because some of our circumstances seem so odd.

Like our I-129 that was denied was expired by the time my husband interviewed but not revalidated and they just told us it expired just not long ago. We also got a go - a letter from CIS saying our I-130 was headed to NVC and then they said no that the embassy had held it for that whole year and so they were going to need another 12 months at most to look at the I-130 and review it. He never interviewed for the I-130 but it was approved at the same time as the I-129

It has been nearly 2 years since our denial. We've been together about 5 years now.

Has anyone been reviewed and then reapproved and their case sent back to NVC and onto the consulate? What happened?

Any information from those who are denied and are years out from that - would appreciate. I love my husband and my family so much, I feel ill daily, I think it's affected my health. Last time we had to part at the airport I just felt torn and broken, I didn't know how to do that again. To do that once more in the future or repeatedly - I just feel weary. I would like to have my husband with my family here for special occasions. I know in my heart the truth will set us free, the evidence is all here - just waiting to find it's way to the desk of someone that will look at our case at immigration.

Yes, we have senator's involved. I don't know what else to do. What if we do this wrong and we're separated indefinitely?


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Afrilaskan QueenFemaleNigeria2009-12-04 19:39:00
Waivers (I-601 and I-212) and Administrative Processes (221g)understanding the waiver and when and how to use it
Thanks momof1, for all this info. I now understand that I'm not in line for a waiver. You really have been through a lot. I can only imagine how you coped each day through all of that stress. I was interested to read that your lawyer inquired to the status of your case every 30 days - our lawyer has inquired at the times that they were instructed to. I see you left another reply that I want to read and reply to separately. I don't see how asking for the help of the Omsbudsman can hurt at this point. Somtimes I think our lawyer is very helpful, sometimes I get conflicting information that puzzles me exceedingly. Take Care...
Afrilaskan QueenFemaleNigeria2009-12-16 07:54:00
Waivers (I-601 and I-212) and Administrative Processes (221g)understanding the waiver and when and how to use it
QUOTE (taurean @ Dec 15 2009, 01:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Let me preface my statement by saying that I am not well-versed in the area of waivers and such, but I'd still like to add my two cents here. I don't think you can file a waiver in this case until some application or petition have been denied. As you have stated the facts, there has been no denial yet. Instead your I129f expired, and your I130 has been misplaced. It seems like the key to moving your situation forward is to determine where your I130 actually is. Until that application is located you will not know where you are in the process.

Although you have retained an attorney, I feel you have to be your own best advocate. You don't have to sit back and wait for your attorney to call USCIS, DOS or NVC. If I were you I would devote some time to getting in touch with the right person at the NVC to determine where your application is. I think byran mentioned contacting an Omsbudman. That sounds like a great place for you to start. The thing is you have to do something! And your attorney (who may be well meaning) should take direction from you. If you want your attorney to make the calls, then have him/her make the calls!

Hopefully there will be others to come along to help give you more direction, but I just wanted to encourage you to be more proactive.

Good luck to you!!!!



Hi Taurean,

Thanks for your encouragment. Well CIS claims that they have our I-130, back from NVC, they tied it to the denied but expired I-129.... So yes, they have denied us, at the interview, but that is the last thing that occured. Since that 2 years nothing has happened. However we were told there are background checks going on. In all those years we never received an request for AOS fees. Either CIS never sent it, or NVC's denial of record for our petition is false. I am not sure if that is important to find out - but I feel somehow it must be key.

The reason I haven't been contacting CIS myself, or now the Omsbudsman is because the senator was helping but also - most importantly - is that the attorney said it a bad idea to call and annoy CIS regularly - that they don't like it and could take it out on us a bit. That is why I keep holding back, I figured that the senator called repeatedly.

But from what I'm reading, it's like you're fighting for your case not to get lost among millions of others. Thank you again for your points, I'm carefully considering everyone's view, I hate sitting here doing nothing for so many years, just as everyone else who has experienced it would feel I imagine.
Afrilaskan QueenFemaleNigeria2009-12-15 21:33:00
Waivers (I-601 and I-212) and Administrative Processes (221g)understanding the waiver and when and how to use it
Hello All,

I have read through the waiver section here on the website. Can you please give me some focus or direction? As I understand the waiver is to prove a hardship is created for the petitioner if the beneficiary cannot immigrate. Correct? Though I have read that people have taken a waiver with them to an interview in case that visa is denied. Correct? I have been under the impression that a hardship wavier is the last choice on the list, when you run out of options. Is that accurate? I would like to understand how people have used this waiver and how long it takes to apply for it.

Thanks.
Afrilaskan QueenFemaleNigeria2009-12-15 12:07:00
Africa: Sub-SaharanWhat's next? Married 2 years I129 interview visa denial
Hi Sylvia - yes I have heard of Enugu but my husband is not over there. My Hubby is Igbo too. yes.gif

Afrilaskan QueenFemaleNigeria2008-12-29 18:58:00
Africa: Sub-SaharanWhat's next? Married 2 years I129 interview visa denial
idocare - thank you thank you thank you SO much! star_smile.gif
Afrilaskan QueenFemaleNigeria2008-12-29 18:55:00
Africa: Sub-SaharanWhat's next? Married 2 years I129 interview visa denial
That's wonderful - I am trying to learn some Igbo language, it's a difficult one but from the sounds of it it's also a dieing language. What is it like in Sierra Lione? ~ Cheers
Afrilaskan QueenFemaleNigeria2008-12-29 10:50:00
Africa: Sub-SaharanWhat's next? Married 2 years I129 interview visa denial
Forshika, thank you for your warm welcome as well. ~ biggrin.gif
Afrilaskan QueenFemaleNigeria2008-12-29 10:32:00
Africa: Sub-SaharanWhat's next? Married 2 years I129 interview visa denial
Omoba thank you again, I'm very curious what your profile name means. I do wonder if the dangers of Nigeria are media induced, that was my opinion last time I was there. Although there are definately risks - that's the case wherever you go it seems like the country is suffering - well the whole world has suffered due to economics and so forth so it is far too generalized. Some who watch the news, when I met my husband were more then concerned it was a scam. As all of those close drew around and approved and knew it wasn't a scam others seem to back off due to the confidence. But still there are those who if you marry outside the country will truly think until the end of time that they're using you no matter what you say. You really can't seem to care what others think otherwise it would be down-heartening to hear someone you love being called a scammer or a fraud.

You mentioned about having faith earlier and having a peace of knowing things are as they should be. I have felt that as well - that is also how my husband views things, our faith drew us together. Thank you for stating that and reminding me of where I should redirect my thinking. I am so relieved to have been able to find this site, I feel more stable in my feelings and a sense of hope and energy again. ~ TY
Afrilaskan QueenFemaleNigeria2008-12-29 10:29:00
Africa: Sub-SaharanWhat's next? Married 2 years I129 interview visa denial
How and where do you learn to be safe and not a spectacle? Particularly when you're recognized as a foreigner? I agree the larger a city the more crime. I wonder why people have such a somewhat extreme view of Nigeria?

Afrilaskan QueenFemaleNigeria2008-12-28 18:46:00
Africa: Sub-SaharanWhat's next? Married 2 years I129 interview visa denial
That is what I'm thinking, there is no where in the world that is completely safe. The first time I was in Nigeria friends were worried about the sex slave trade, also the kidnapping and ransom's. I know that my Husband wouldn't put me in harms way. It costs so much to live there too. Also someone else posted a lovely post about Omoba - I can see what you mean. Thank you for the comforting thoughts and experiences, it has lifted my spirits and there is a wealth of knowledge within this whole other world...
Afrilaskan QueenFemaleNigeria2008-12-28 18:43:00
Africa: Sub-SaharanWhat's next? Married 2 years I129 interview visa denial
I am going to look into the freedom of information claim to get access to the consular report, I didn't know that I could. I think I got it but the way it was given now I'm not so sure it was that actual report. Thanks for this it's most helpful!
Afrilaskan QueenFemaleNigeria2008-12-28 15:06:00
Africa: Sub-SaharanWhat's next? Married 2 years I129 interview visa denial
So that's so interesting and funny - visa hell. So you will split your time in Nigeria - is your family nervous about that? Thank you for sharing your experience. I really appreciate all this response!
Afrilaskan QueenFemaleNigeria2008-12-28 14:59:00
Africa: Sub-SaharanWhat's next? Married 2 years I129 interview visa denial
Wow that's interesting - trying to make sense of a nonsense reason, I can't wait to tell my Husband that. Perplexed we were both stunned although it wasn't probably a smoothe interview. I don't think race would determine such a thing either - it just was a kind of out there question. Thanks for your hugs and making me laugh.
Afrilaskan QueenFemaleNigeria2008-12-28 14:55:00
Africa: Sub-SaharanWhat's next? Married 2 years I129 interview visa denial
Thank you this is very helpful and encouraging! They must have taken measures for safety. I had no idea. I need to read more about this from some source.
Afrilaskan QueenFemaleNigeria2008-12-28 14:52:00
Africa: Sub-SaharanWhat's next? Married 2 years I129 interview visa denial
Wow Omoba, your serenity appears to be faith driven and determination and love. I am speechless.

Afrilaskan QueenFemaleNigeria2008-12-28 14:49:00
Africa: Sub-SaharanWhat's next? Married 2 years I129 interview visa denial
Thanks for your thoughts - I do think because Nigeria is filled with fraud that perhaps it's somewhat standard to deny a large portion of visa's for some reason, because it does seem like so many are denied. I wonder how it compares to some other countries. I wonder how many people get denied and then eventually get their visa in the end. I wonder if some people who are scamming just give up and those who don't persevere - because this is a hard process. All speculation.

Thanks and have a good day.
Afrilaskan QueenFemaleNigeria2008-12-28 14:37:00
Africa: Sub-SaharanWhat's next? Married 2 years I129 interview visa denial
Wow, they know you have a real relationship but because of a typo you are awaiting a waiver. How long a wait are you talking? That must have been heart breaking, you sound resolute though and confident. I feel resolute we'll be together I just wish someone could say a date for anything, the sitting and waiting is painful. You know I too am white. I never thought of it as an issue, it was an nuetral party that thought it could have been an issue in our denial. It's pretty speculatory but I was just curious what you thought.
Afrilaskan QueenFemaleNigeria2008-12-28 14:31:00
Africa: Sub-SaharanWhat's next? Married 2 years I129 interview visa denial
Oh my goodness I just read your timeline, you were denied and you've been together for years as well! You must have been heart broken - did you have to leave him after the interview to return to the US? How are you managing? I was going to go for the interview but our lawyer thought things were set and although advised me I could go understood the complications at that time. I wished I had gone to be with him for the denial. It sure puts your relationship through much stress.

I have to ask a tacky question. I notice you may be white...or mix race, I wonder if interracial couples recieve discrimation? I'm so sorry you're experiencing such a difficult experience...does your case look good with your lawyer? What do you think occured in the interview?

Thanks for your encouragement I think I'll buy the pretty panties now..lol.
Afrilaskan QueenFemaleNigeria2008-12-28 14:01:00
Africa: Sub-SaharanWhat's next? Married 2 years I129 interview visa denial
Thank you for your reply and welcome to the boards. I would like to look at the infopass I didn't know about that. It really is a matter of us being together ... actually trying to figure that out. Without going into detail I can't live there, not due to discomfort or any of those things - I love my family there and I've been in Nigeria and I'm most willing to be there. Safety is a huge concern. Has anyone here traveled through Nigeria?

Thank you so much for your encouragment.
Afrilaskan QueenFemaleNigeria2008-12-28 13:55:00