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Middle East and North AfricaMahr - What Determines Worth?
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I also understand that you were p*ssed if someone made a comment about your wife. However, carrying it on and on is just unecessary. Bringing your cronies onboard is also uncool IMHO.
It's like watching a mad highschooler get all of his friends, then get a mob mentality going and standing back laughing.

Hopefully everyone can chill out and stop the bashing. Im a little ashamed that some of the women on this board so freely drew out their claws and got to "mobbn" also.

Lisa


For the record, I didn't bring anyone over, nor did I ask them to take up the torch. There was already a topic at Expats about that thread, so I posted about the latest in there as a means to rant and curse and complain. If people felt the desire to come over to VJ and post their feelings about it, that's entirely up to them. I didn't recruit them.


Come on, you know you put up a billboard.


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I knew this was a bait thread from the beginning. That's why I wouldn't comment on the topic. You guys over at Expats act your posts are transparent and no one can tell how you plot to come over to VJ and stir sh!t up with people you don't like. Frankly, Expats or no expats, platy, amby, len, tara, just your being here together in one thread is a red flag coz you have no other reason to be here other than to bait. Why anyone would spend so much time gossiping about people you never met but just don't agree with, putting out negative speculations, plotting to "get back" at them, and acting like gangbangers on a message board is beyond me. MENA women sanctioning a foray into MENA such as this is even more pathetic. Think whatever you want about your "enemies", but it takes a specially low-esteem type to waste time in groups doing that. There are all kinds in the world.




Why am I not surprised that you picked the one about you? lol

For the record, I NEVER thought Tara would actually post what I wrote. I wrote it to be funny. I meant every word, don't get me wrong. I really do feel that way. But I didn't for one second think she would post it verbatim over here.


I posted the one about me and the one about narina, but there are more, of course. Why waste time complaining about the supposed bad behavor of others while engaging in worse behavior? That kinda negates the point.

Oh, and I'm also the one who got Mike/Ewok to put the kabash on the plotting, too.



Of course you are.

You read more stuff over there than the actual members.

You should join up.
PlatyPiusMale02008-11-19 23:57:00
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QUOTE (Y_habibitk @ Nov 19 2008, 10:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I also understand that you were p*ssed if someone made a comment about your wife. However, carrying it on and on is just unecessary. Bringing your cronies onboard is also uncool IMHO.
It's like watching a mad highschooler get all of his friends, then get a mob mentality going and standing back laughing.

Hopefully everyone can chill out and stop the bashing. Im a little ashamed that some of the women on this board so freely drew out their claws and got to "mobbn" also.

Lisa


For the record, I didn't bring anyone over, nor did I ask them to take up the torch. There was already a topic at Expats about that thread, so I posted about the latest in there as a means to rant and curse and complain. If people felt the desire to come over to VJ and post their feelings about it, that's entirely up to them. I didn't recruit them.


Come on, you know you put up a billboard.


yes.gif

I knew this was a bait thread from the beginning. That's why I wouldn't comment on the topic. You guys over at Expats act your posts are transparent and no one can tell how you plot to come over to VJ and stir sh!t up with people you don't like. Frankly, Expats or no expats, platy, amby, len, tara, just your being here together in one thread is a red flag coz you have no other reason to be here other than to bait. Why anyone would spend so much time gossiping about people you never met but just don't agree with, putting out negative speculations, plotting to "get back" at them, and acting like gangbangers on a message board is beyond me. MENA women sanctioning a foray into MENA such as this is even more pathetic. Think whatever you want about your "enemies", but it takes a specially low-esteem type to waste time in groups doing that. There are all kinds in the world.




Why am I not surprised that you picked the one about you? lol

For the record, I NEVER thought Tara would actually post what I wrote. I wrote it to be funny. I meant every word, don't get me wrong. I really do feel that way. But I didn't for one second think she would post it verbatim over here.
PlatyPiusMale02008-11-19 23:48:00
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QUOTE (Y_habibitk @ Nov 19 2008, 10:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I also understand that you were p*ssed if someone made a comment about your wife. However, carrying it on and on is just unecessary. Bringing your cronies onboard is also uncool IMHO.
It's like watching a mad highschooler get all of his friends, then get a mob mentality going and standing back laughing.

Hopefully everyone can chill out and stop the bashing. Im a little ashamed that some of the women on this board so freely drew out their claws and got to "mobbn" also.

Lisa


For the record, I didn't bring anyone over, nor did I ask them to take up the torch. There was already a topic at Expats about that thread, so I posted about the latest in there as a means to rant and curse and complain. If people felt the desire to come over to VJ and post their feelings about it, that's entirely up to them. I didn't recruit them.

(Except for the Cash for Gold thing. lol)

Edited by PlatyPius, 19 November 2008 - 11:02 PM.

PlatyPiusMale02008-11-19 23:00:00
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And yet, out of all of the people who read my original post in the closed thread, only the Queen got bent out of shape about it. Everyone else knew it was a joke, or assumed I was just trying to start drama, and left it alone. Don't blame me for your own insecurity.

You think I don't hear stuff all the time about "smelly Brits with rotten teeth" and ####### like that? Of course I do. Do I realize that it is usually in jest? Yes. So do I go on a vendetta against those people and essentially whip my willy out and proudly proclaim it to be bigger than anyone else's? No.

The only people who were offended by my OP are the one(s) who saw themselves therein, or who just like to b1tch and moan.
PlatyPiusMale02008-11-19 22:56:00
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QUOTE (Y_habibitk @ Nov 19 2008, 10:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, I did mean you. I realize you have friends here...thats obvious.

Oooook, so they dont come JUST for drama.... they just like to stir it up when the opportunity arises
which still isnt cool.


I know we haven't really run into each other elsewhere on the board, so you probably don't know me very well. Yes, I can be a complete and total ####. But there is always a reason for me to be such. If you read the original exchange in one of the closed threads, you'll see that I didn't intend to start anything. I posted 4 humorous lines about MENA relationships. I didn't make them up. They were collected by me from comments made by MENA posters. We both know that examples of each and every one of those 4 things are in the MENA forum. My posting them was intended to by amusing to those who don't fit any of those four things.

"Someone" got bent out of shape over them. I even posted earlier on that there was no reason to get defensive if they didn't apply to you... that I had posted them in jest. It was still mostly amusing until comments were made about about me "buying" my wife from Russia or Asia. Mags wasn't bovvered though, so I didn't worry about it. But when the "rotten coochie" comment was made....well, Platy got not so nice and full d!ckhead mode was enabled.

I like to joke around, and I can take it as well as dish it out. I don't deal well with people bringing Mags into it, though.

So.....yeah. I didn't intend to piss all over 'your' forum - since I'm a scary outsider. I really DID want to learn more about the dowry/mahr thing from people other than the ones I talk to over at Expats. Not acting like a martyr or anything, because I HAVE been chopf##k. But ya need to look at where it all began before ya blame the Platy.
PlatyPiusMale02008-11-19 22:28:00
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QUOTE (Hanging in there @ Nov 19 2008, 08:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
sad.............but i guess when guys have to drp that much money along w their families for a greencard,they think twice about leaving...good jon narina...get a couple thousand more out of them in my name...at least you got some dough
true love exists people............never give up......i lost a billion dollars 2 months ago and no gold in the world will ever bring that treasure back


I'm sorry for what you went through. My husband doesn't need a greencard. He's from a VWP country. His brothers are also US citizens and have been here for over 20 years (that's how our families know one another). I'm not worried about being used for a greencard, because he could have come to America years ago. I didn't ask for a large mahr, I was given one. His family is kinda wealthy. Even more than my family. His concern would not be losing money if he divorced me. His concern would be the rift it could cause between our families as we have other family members who are married to each other.

It's a fact that you have a 50/50 chance of your marriage working. The divorce rate is 50% or maybe even more now. Well it's the same thing with an American marrying a foreigner. If you don't really know the person and you just meet on vacation or over the internet, there's always gonna be the possibility that you're being used. It's something that everyone who decides to marry a foreigner, has to think about. A close friend of mine married an Indian guy. She should have suspected something was up because their marriage was a nightmare. Sure enough, as soon as they denied his I-130 he was bye bye!

I know MENA men use American women. I was in Egypt just last month and our tour guide was talking to me in Arabic, telling me how his best friend married a British woman who is older than him, just for papers. Once his friend got to the UK he offered the tour guide a chance to hook him up with another old lady and the tour guide turned down the offer. So not all of them are users, but some of them are. In March 2007 I was in Morocco and heard the same stories. I'm sure they tell me this because I talk to them in Arabic and they feel that I won't take offense. They would never admit it to just anybody. Yeah, it happens, and alot!

I know that in 5 years, there's gonna be alot of women on here telling the same sad story you've told. For that, I'm truly sorry. You don't deserve that. I hope you find someone new that will make you so happy you'll forget the sadness you're in now.



Um... I understand that is a reality but seriously... be nice. A lot of us are/will/did struggle with our marriages and you're not exactly giving us something to look forward to. It's probably "easier" for you because of your culture. I'm just saying (regardless of what you've said in the past and regardless of what others are saying about you) you need to be a little nicer. We are trying to stay positive. We need support.

Like I said, I know the green card thing is a reality but it isn't necessarily OUR reality. We're all happy (genuinely) that you have a great marriage, a great husband, a big mahr etc, but you're being a bit .... stuck up about it. I don't think the way it is coming off is the way you intend. I just want you to know how these messages are being perceived. It SOUNDS like you're saying: My marriage is perfect. I have gold, and I go on trips and my marriage will never end. But you're all American and those marriages usually don't last and he's only there to get a green card.

Honestly, congratulations on your happy marriage. I hope it continues. But just understand how some of your comments are coming off. Please.


So, some memebers are allowed to elude to the fact that we're all being used for a GC, but others arent supposed to say that SOME will end up that way?

Honestly? I dont think ANYONE should even bring it up unless someone asks SPECIFICALLY for advise on the subject OR they say it first... others here, will jump to conclusions and write 8 paragraph posts about how "you should leave him" "he's using you" "just wait"...ect ect and everyone is silent!
People dont want to read that stuff!

Lisa


I think everyone should cool down. Period. I'm not putting the blame on any ONE person. Sorry if I come off that way.

Honestly, I don't like stepping on toes. I hope I'm not.


I really dont think you mean any harm. I just have issue when someone says 1/4 of what another poster has said and they get jumped on... its ridiculous and unfair.

I remember when i first joined VJ, I used to read the MENA forum and be: blink.gif Then it cooled down for a while. Now, I guess its the cycle.... oh ya, and we have people coming into the forum, just for drama

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Hope you ain't talking about me. I actually DO have friends in here, and I used to drop in much more frequently than I do now. I don't visit the MENA forum just for drama. I read posts in here to learn stuff, too. The drama is an added bonus.
PlatyPiusMale02008-11-19 22:11:00
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QUOTE (Y_habibitk @ Nov 19 2008, 06:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, since the OP asked women who are "are actually involved with a culture that still has dowries/Mahrs/etc."
I thought I would bring us to that perspective.
This thread was clearly created to mock a member of VJ, that part has been accomlished, the remarks and attacks have been made...(ya, i said it) so i thought i would ask us, as if we were involved in the culture....since, after all we have married into it, havent we?
Also, some of us may plan to eventually settle in the SO's country at least part time. That may play a role in the mahr.

I do agree that if I was a MENA woman, I would except what the groom could afford...no more no less.

Lisa

:I'll get my fire retardant gear on:


You're partly right.
I started this thread because I was completely dumbfounded at what I can only describe as the biggest ego I have ever seen. I wanted to see if this was considered normal or if it was an anomaly. I was also genuinely curious about the custom, since I don't have a lot of interaction with MENA people, except the few that post on Expats.

I'm still a little shell-shocked at the blatant belief in "beauty" and money over any real substance, and the vulgar display of "wealth" and perceived worth.

So....partly right. The mocking was quite secondary to the actual inquiry.
PlatyPiusMale02008-11-19 21:24:00
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QUOTE (PlatyPius @ Nov 19 2008, 01:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

hey wait, that looks like it's from the movie "kiss the girls" blink.gif


I thought so tooo.... so platy is not only one cheap b@st@rd, he is also a psycho???????????? unsure.gif unsure.gif unsure.gif

And Dolma --- your survival and growth into who you are is more than proof that you are more worth it than any effing bimbo who tries to tell you otherwise. Besides you are my friend, and we all know what happens to those who mess with my friends.... heart.gif


You force them to eat your cooking?
PlatyPiusMale02008-11-19 16:07:00
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IF
I were a woman
AND
I lived in a MENA country
THEN
Yes, I would expect a mahr and I would want it to be as much as the guy could afford.

That point, however, if pretty much a non-issue on VJ, since the overwhelming majority of MENA posters are Female USC petitioners.

To expect, accept, and gloat about a sizable mahr here is in poor taste, a sign of insecurity, and just....disgusting.
PlatyPiusMale02008-11-19 15:38:00
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I didn't do the Mahr thing with Mags, obviously.

The best I could do was take her into the woods, where no one could hear her scream in terror, and propose.

Here's a pic of where I proposed.... It was, however, not covered in snow at the time....


PlatyPiusMale02008-11-19 14:55:00
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My search skillz has failed me. I can't find anything viable for Egyptian Arabic that's similar.
PlatyPiusMale02008-11-19 01:18:00
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QUOTE (charles! @ Nov 18 2008, 11:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
what is "meskina" (used by hanging in there). unsure.gif


"destitute/poor" in contemporary Eastern Assyrian


Very good Platy.


I iz the interbutts search guru!

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QUOTE (TamaraLovesAdam @ Nov 19 2008, 12:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
the Definition by Platy... Im sure it was either googled or quoted from someone on Expats laughing.gif


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http://www.christian....com/assy3.html

Edited by PlatyPius, 19 November 2008 - 01:01 AM.

PlatyPiusMale02008-11-19 01:00:00
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QUOTE (PlatyPius @ Nov 19 2008, 12:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (charles! @ Nov 18 2008, 11:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
what is "meskina" (used by hanging in there). unsure.gif


"destitute/poor" in contemporary Eastern Assyrian


Very good Platy.


I iz the interbutts search guru!

tongue.gif
PlatyPiusMale02008-11-19 00:54:00
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QUOTE (charles! @ Nov 18 2008, 11:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
what is "meskina" (used by hanging in there). unsure.gif


"destitute/poor" in contemporary Eastern Assyrian
PlatyPiusMale02008-11-18 23:50:00
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QUOTE (morocco4ever @ Nov 18 2008, 03:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sorry, I forgot to select quote Narina, but is your origins somewhere in Turkey?


No, I am not Turkish. Circassians do not come from Turkey. Our homeland is the Caucasus Mountains of modern day Russia. However, most live in diaspora and are in the Middle East now. You can look it up on Wikepedia. They actually have a very good write up on the history of our people.

You might be thinking about the "Circassian beauties" who were kidnapped and/or purchased by Sultans during the time of the Ottoman empire. They were highly coveted for their beauty. They were caught and sold at slave markets oftentimes at prices thousands of times higher than any other women. Turkish Sultans wanted them for their harems. Many of them gave birth to the future Sultans of Turkey. Even the British and Americans wrote about it and marketed beauty products bearing the Circassian name.


You were born in the US. The Caucasus Mountains are not your homeland.
You're really obsessed with this beauty thing. Why is that?


QUOTE (narina77 @ Nov 18 2008, 07:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Aww...it's true though. Most foreign women don't get any dowry. Lisa honey, you're gorgeous though, you could have asked for anything and I'm sure he and his family would have paid it. And that's not to say he loves you only because you're beautiful...I know you're a complete sweetheart too.


Please use the correct term. You're confusing people.

A dowry (also known as trousseau or tocher) is the money, goods, or estate that a woman brings to her soon to be husband in marriage.[1] Compare bride price, which is paid to the bride's parents, and dower, which is property settled on the bride herself by the groom at the time of marriage. The same culture may simultaneously practice both dowry and bride price. Many cultures had dowries prior to any existing records.

Dower or morning gift (Latin doarium, or Latinized Germanic morganaticum; Fr. douaire, German Morgengabe) was a provision accorded by law to a wife for her support in the event that she should survive her husband (i.e., become a widow). It was settled on the bride by agreement at the time of the wedding, or provided by law. ("Settled" here refers to a gift into trust.)

Mahr (Arabic: ????; also transliterated mehr, meher, or mahrieh) is a gift, mandatory in Islam, which is given by the groom to the bride upon marriage in Islamic cultures.[1] (in contrast to other cultures' bride price, which is paid to the bride's father). It is considered to be a form of appreciation, as well as providing certain guarantees for the woman.

The gift can be intangible or negligible, it can take the form investments or real property. The mahr may also be divided into portions, one to be given to the bride at marriage, the other to be given to the wife if she is widowed or divorced. It should be given according to the social status of the bride.[2]

Islamic scholars consider it as a way of emphasizing the importance of the marriage contract and preparing the husband to fulfill his marital responsibilities.[3] It also can be a form of protection against arbitrary divorce.
PlatyPiusMale02008-11-18 23:47:00
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QUOTE (Sheherazade @ Nov 18 2008, 12:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It should be given according to the social status of the bride.

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So there's your answer, Platy. It is supposed to be determined by her "social status." Not sure how that would work with MENA husbands and American wives though...

oh you just know there's gonna be some interesting conversations today in mena homes. whistling.gif


Which all of this just goes back to Platy's original question about someone's skin or hair color. Her worth was normally deemed as greater because she didn't have to work in the sun, or her fair skin and blonde or lighter colored hair were deemed as making her more desirable. Just think, "Mirror, mirror on the wall, who's the fairest of them all." Freaking SNOW WHITE!!!! You think she was a prize because she was holed up in some shack with 7 dwarfs - nope, it's cause her skin was as pure as snow.

Now discuss. rofl.gif


This was actually kinda where I was going with this topic. I know that in Indian culture, lighter-skinned people are typically of the upper caste. I was wondering if it also applied to more Muslim countries.
PlatyPiusMale02008-11-18 14:34:00
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QUOTE (morocco4ever @ Nov 18 2008, 11:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
One other note, if it were appropriate to place a value on a woman it should be placed on her heart, her kindness, her generosity, and her personal values. That is worth more than looks.


I agree. Average-looking and kind, intelligent, etc or "Hawt" and a total b!tch? No real choice on that one. I can't tolerate a b!tch.

I got lucky with Mags. Didn't have to make a choice.
PlatyPiusMale02008-11-18 12:19:00
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Okay, the "minimum" is 10 Dirhams of silver, which is 1.08001 ounces. At the current silver price of $9.45/oz, that means the minimum mahr is $10.21. That really doesn't sound like much.

Edited by PlatyPius, 18 November 2008 - 10:51 AM.

PlatyPiusMale02008-11-18 10:51:00
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No, I really AM curious about it.

However, if people have fun in this thread too, even better! tongue.gif
PlatyPiusMale02008-11-18 10:43:00
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QUOTE (just_Jackie @ Nov 18 2008, 10:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Penny a pound isn't it?

Jax


Wow! A whole $1.05?! All for you to do with as you want???

Maybe this mahr thing is over-rated.....
PlatyPiusMale02008-11-18 10:19:00
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QUOTE (bridget @ Nov 18 2008, 10:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm white but I have freckles all over me so mine was discounted.


LOL!

No, seriously.....
I really AM curious.

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PlatyPiusMale02008-11-18 10:08:00
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Ok, first one disappeared before anyone got to read it.

I read somewhere that someone said that her Mahr was more than normal based on being white and fair-haired.

Do you believe this is really a factor in the determination of the size of a woman's Mahr?

How DOES that get determined, anyway? I've always wondered about dowries and such, so I figured I'd ask people who are actually involved with a culture that still has dowries/Mahrs/etc.
PlatyPiusMale02008-11-18 10:04:00
Middle East and North AfricaThe hijab is a symbol of oppression, sexism and perversion - Agree or disagree?
QUOTE (hichoufy @ Nov 23 2008, 08:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't want to waist my time anymore smarty. I do speak 4 languages and I'm more intelligent than you rofl.gif rofl.gif rofl.gif rofl.gif rofl.gif rofl.gif rofl.gif
don't write anything back because I'm not going to write anything more because I have more important things to do than answering you back
good luck to you smarty


You know this for a fact, do you? How? Have you illegally accessed my high school and college transcripts somehow? Should I be reporting Identity Theft?

You're the one who can't grasp the concept that this is not an Immigration forum. This is a regional forum, where people talk about anything and everything. If you want immigration topics, go to the immigration forums rather than demanding that everyone in here immediately stop talking about non-immigration things simply because you wish that it be so.

Edited by PlatyPius, 23 November 2008 - 08:21 PM.

PlatyPiusMale02008-11-23 20:20:00
Middle East and North AfricaThe hijab is a symbol of oppression, sexism and perversion - Agree or disagree?
QUOTE (hichoufy @ Nov 23 2008, 06:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I said I don't speak english and I do know how to look around But I just got cut by a wrong person headbonk.gif headbonk.gif headbonk.gif headbonk.gif headbonk.gif headbonk.gif

QUOTE
This is called the "General Forum", and it is specific to the MENA. I think it qualifies. If you want information only on immigration they have specific threads for the Service Centers, Consulates, NVC, etc. Perhaps you need to look around more.




It's obvious you don't speak English. Or any other intelligible language.
PlatyPiusMale02008-11-23 18:48:00
Middle East and North AfricaThe hijab is a symbol of oppression, sexism and perversion - Agree or disagree?
QUOTE (hichoufy @ Nov 23 2008, 03:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is not any more fun to read anything in this topic. Honestly we should talk about immigration


Then perhaps you should maybe go to an immigration topic, rather than this one? Just a thought.
PlatyPiusMale02008-11-23 15:36:00
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QUOTE (Hoomsfuturewife @ Nov 23 2008, 02:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (morocco4ever @ Nov 23 2008, 12:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Trolls are like an onion, well that's what I heard anyway. tongue.gif


You mean they make you cry when you slice them? I wouldn't know. I've never murdered a troll before. But now that I know what your past-time is... helpsmilie.gif


And they're crunchy and make a really nice soup.
PlatyPiusMale02008-11-23 14:55:00
Middle East and North AfricaThe hijab is a symbol of oppression, sexism and perversion - Agree or disagree?
QUOTE (Hoomsfuturewife @ Nov 23 2008, 02:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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QUOTE (Sinergy @ Nov 22 2008, 09:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
AJ your a troll now? whistling.gif


A Christian Troll rofl.gif



I thought trolls were Pagan and worship the Norse gods. Are you telling me they converted?! If so, they should immediately be killed for apostasy.




Nah, "Heathens" is the term used by Asatruar and Odinists. Trolls are strictly forbidden from worshipping the old gods.

Especially trolls that smell like curry.
PlatyPiusMale02008-11-23 02:57:00
Middle East and North AfricaThe hijab is a symbol of oppression, sexism and perversion - Agree or disagree?
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QUOTE (charles! @ Nov 22 2008, 05:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i'm in a subsect - the bottle beer church. we don't get along too well with the canned beer sect. happy.gif



And what's your opinion of the boxed wine sect? Are they heretics/infidels? Keep in mind that the bottled wine sect disapproves of the boxed wine sect due to their lower caste status. Let's not even get started on the wine cooler sect... Everybody knows they are fanatics.


Those who drink wine from a box are sub-human.

QUOTE (Sinergy @ Nov 23 2008, 12:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
AJ your a troll now? whistling.gif


No, he was troll before. Before that he was Agent Smith.

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PlatyPiusMale02008-11-23 02:53:00
Middle East and North AfricaThe hijab is a symbol of oppression, sexism and perversion - Agree or disagree?
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QUOTE (hichoufy @ Nov 21 2008, 10:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What's wrong with you people. Why are we talking about Hijab why is it a target lately by a lot of people. We shouldn't talk about this because is not bad at all to cover your head. It's everyone choice you can be a good person or a bad person with hijab or not. Or you can be a good christian or a bad christian. Not only the muslim wears a scarf a lot of people cover their hair around the world. We are here to help but not to judge people/ Do not forget we are in VISA JOURNEY!!!!!!!! headbonk.gif headbonk.gif headbonk.gif headbonk.gif headbonk.gif headbonk.gif headbonk.gif headbonk.gif headbonk.gif



Why can't we talk about it? The point is to let everyone voice their opinions on something so we can see different sides and perspectives. That is what free speech and debate are for. Some people feel offended by the hijab, then there are those of us who don't. If we don't talk about the good thing about the hijab then those who don't like it will never know or learn. Don't be offended by the discussion because its not something to take personal. The goal is to say why you think the hijab is good and acceptable so others will understand your side.


Some people like reading things like this when y'all discuss it so that we can try to understand it. It isn't something commonly seen in Indiana.
PlatyPiusMale02008-11-22 01:09:00
Middle East and North AfricaTurned down "promotion"
I don't really know anything about you, but I think you did the right thing. You refused "The Box" and you turned down an insulting "raise". Considering all of the variables you listed, I probably would have done the same thing.
PlatyPiusMale02008-11-20 12:32:00
Middle East and North Africaregarding previous post on the flip side
QUOTE (allousa @ Feb 11 2009, 12:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
WHY can't people take their dirty laundry to the corner laundromat?

Just say'in.....


I remember the day when "doing laundry" meant something completely different on VJ.....
PlatyPiusMale02009-02-11 13:19:00
Middle East and North AfricaReturning Petitions to the United States via 221g
QUOTE (bquillera30 @ Mar 7 2009, 07:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
not to be rude or anything what he felt about the result of testing is our buisness the question and my urgency is what should i do for the not to leave colombian grounds help will be appriciated


No one can give you advice if they don't know what the hell is going on.
Is the kid his or not? If not, then you certainly can't use the child as proof of a relationship. If it IS his child, then why are the tests coming back negative? If it ISN'T his child, then why does he think that it is? It isn't "personal"; not if you want accurate answers, at least.
PlatyPiusMale02009-03-07 19:41:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresWhy VSC is so slow?
Oh! Is it this time of year again already? Who's winning this year? Have they played the "married vs. not yet married" card yet? Is there righteous indignation?

I swear you don't need a calendar when you have VJ....

Next will be the plans to organize mass email campaigns, picket whichever service center is "slow", write to your congressman who never even sees your request - only an intern, and then the approvals will come in as they always do and everyone will lose interest in "fixing" the system because they've been approved and don't give a shite anymore.
PlatyPiusMale02008-11-20 02:37:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresWhy VSC is so slow?
Why is VSC so slow?

Maybe they're on the same server as VJ....
PlatyPiusMale02008-11-19 15:51:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & Proceduresvisa on hand but got small problem.........
QUOTE (cutie baby @ Nov 25 2008, 11:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i got my visa today but i have a small problem because when we file the papers at the NVC its my old passport but i renew it even it is not yet expired...


Ah. I thought you were going to say the problem was the visa was on your hand. Because that would be silly. It would wash off. That's why a visa IN your hand is so much better.
PlatyPiusMale02008-11-26 21:17:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresGlory to God
Glory to the Flying Spaghetti Monster!
PlatyPiusMale02008-11-29 14:46:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & Proceduresemail from USCIS...
Because it seems that they're sending all of the K3 apps to California. There's another thread on here somewhere, and one person who was transferred lives in New Hampshire, I believe.
PlatyPiusMale02006-07-18 07:43:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresWe can officially say..........
lol :P Get to work!
PlatyPiusMale02006-08-24 06:06:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresWe can officially say..........
Sian and Jordan's medicals are set for September 9th. Still waiting for the Police Certificate. They're at day 39 now. lol

We'll still have a wait....after (assuming) she gets the visa, she has to sell her house and give a month's notice to NHS. She used all of her vacation time visiting me, so she can't cut that last month short, unfortunately. Of course, the house selling is the big unknown.

We're hoping sometime before Xmas for her arrival, but it might be later.

I'll let you know when the interview is, though. lol
PlatyPiusMale02006-08-24 06:00:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresWe can officially say..........
Yay! 'bout time, eh?
PlatyPiusMale02006-08-24 05:32:00