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K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresDivorced twice...how to get copy of first divorce certificate?
QUOTE (Erin G. @ Jun 24 2009, 01:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've been divorced twice. I have my most recent divorce certificate, but my first one is packed away in storage in another city. Can anyone tell me how to go about getting another copy? Would it be as good as the original?


You should be requesting a copy from the couty clerk that services the city where you divorced.The mail you certified copies for a small fee.

Edited by Minya's wife, 24 June 2009 - 01:17 PM.

Minya's wifeMaleHungary2009-06-24 13:16:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresdoes this make sense?
QUOTE (incafan @ Jun 23 2009, 11:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Does anyone know how I might find a complete list of the things that are neccesary to get married in Peru? I really apreciate any information anyone may have.


are you the USC or the foreign beneficiary? if you're the USC, I would think that your fiance(e) would be the best person to find out the pre-requisites to marry in his/her home country. In some countries the requirements can differ from city to city, county to county. You might try the US consulate in Peru, to see if they have any information on their website for USC's wishing to marry in that country.

-P
Minya's wifeMaleHungary2009-06-23 11:16:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresK1:How to ask questiones to Forum Moderators or Administrator on this website??
QUOTE (pureheart @ Jul 3 2009, 10:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Anh map @ Jul 3 2009, 11:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The K1 petition begins with the US citizen filling out the I-129F. It makes more sense for the USC to learn the process and help the beneficiary. The US citizen will have an easier time understanding (generally) the instructions as they have been in the US for a significant amount of time.

Petitioners address is the US citizen's address.

Follow the list of Petitioner's state of residence for where to file the forms.

Nature of submission means what is the package about.

Again, have your fiance do the work that he/she is supposed to do. There is enough for the beneficiary to do later on. That will help your process go easily and bring you success.

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Thank u so much for responding. but actually i also wanna being farmiliar with all of this process, so when he said he hopes me to do that and then he only needs to sign his name that i agree with that, because i know he needs me to take care of him, so for me its the first step to learn the real life towards USA, and i m not working now that means i have lot time to learn new knowledge, im curious to learn anything new:)

actually i already learn most of process of K1 and also have taught him the detail of petition, so now only how to fill the cover letter of I-129 im not sure that i wanna be sure here:) and im a newbie here so that i dont know how to ask my questions to forum moditator or administrator either.

so hopefully if u know the answer of my question detail one by one, then pls responding me again, thank u very much!!!


The process is designed in such a way that both the US citizen and the foreign beneficiary have portions which they should do themselves, because obtaining a K-1 is a two-fold process. The petition completion/submission/approval, which happens here in the US, then the visa application/interview/approval which happens overseas. During the first process, it is the US citizen who is in charge...and if something goes wrong, (as it has been known to happen) or if there are delays, you the foreign beneficiary have no power to investigate or take any action. If he does not know the details of the i-129 petition because he just signed "i agree with that" he will have no clue how to move the petition along if an when that would be necessary.

What is it with USC petitioners 'not having enough time" to do the work necessary to bring their fiance(s)/wives here? unsure.gif
Minya's wifeMaleHungary2009-07-03 11:33:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresK1 Expedite Request Approved
QUOTE (lancer1655 @ Jul 3 2009, 02:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Basically when I refiled my attorney said give it 30 days as she had requested an expedite of our petition in writing. Nothing happened. She then suggested asking my congressman to request in my place. He did and was kind of ignored. They replied that there was no proof of the previous submittals (there was in the file--who's file?) and they cannot do anything regarding errors, they must go by the NOA1 date and you must wait your turn. So then the attorney said she would request it herself. So she sent an email to USCIS and my petition was approved the following day.


I'm still not seeing the direct link, to your expedite being approved because of USCIS error...did they specifically state they're approving your expedite becuase they ef-ed up, otherwise it could just be a coincidence that the petition was approved the day after the attorney e-mails USCIS.
Minya's wifeMaleHungary2009-07-03 11:23:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedureshmm what if.... we let the date to get married pass by?
QUOTE (ioukta @ Jul 3 2009, 09:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hello,

We're this close to send the package, I'd say few weeks a month tops.

I was wondering, I'm the French fiancee and i know i have 6 months to move to the US from the time i have the visa.... what if... I don't go in 6 months?

*If i let the date pass by what happens? and how do i go about trying to get another visa with the same person? or can i ask for more time?

Here's the deal, my fiance and i want to get married, but we believe in being saved before getting married. Not only that, but we believe in receiving the Holy Ghost to get saved. And that will be all God's timing.

Now on the practical side : what happens if we're not both saved yet when the date to move comes? We want to try now cause it takes so much time for the papers anyway that we think we'll probably be saved by then. But if not, and since we want to get married together we'll try again another fiance visa...

*the fact we petitioned already does it change anything for the second time around?
*the fact it's cause of dates and timeframes instead of being denied the visa does it change something?

So yeah there are my questions with the (*).

Of course this is not an open debate on religion lool just looking for practical answers
Thank you so much for your help everybody, i love this forum it's a gold mine

Aurelie


From the date of petition is filing, to issuance of visa takes about seven months...isn't that enough time to be saved? unsure.gif

Once you have the visa in hand, you have 6 months to use it (move to the US) and once here, 90 days to marry...i don't think there's a way to extend the 6 month visa validity. Your option may be to postpone the date of the visa interview, if you're not ready, or postpone the issuance of the visa. Both of these are issues which you should discuss with the visa issuing consulate.
Minya's wifeMaleHungary2009-07-03 09:39:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedureshelp me with this income!pls!
QUOTE (Tygrys @ Jul 2 2009, 08:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (AlGosia @ Jul 1 2009, 03:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
ok i do have couple more q.just have to be sure.so the last anual income is the most important?for 2008? bc his other incomes were enough.n doesn't it matter that he changed his job n now he works a lot n makes more money?


Please update your timeline with (at least) your NOA2 date.

Also, try to remember you're writing on the message board, not texting your fiance... use English, please.


good.gif Ditto what Tygrys said.

AlGosia, the standard requirements for the I-134 form (which your fiance will have to fill out) are available on the instructions for the form and downloadable on USCIS's website, but there may be documentation that is specific to the Warsaw consulate which you will need to include. For example, some consulates ask for more years worth of tax returns to prove income than others. Your best bet is to check out the website for the US Consulate in Warsaw. The applicable page for fiance(e) visas is below, but you may want to browse the whole site to get better informed.
http://poland.usemba...ing_fiance.html

If you're not finding the information specific to your situation, your fiance should contact the consulate via e-mail at: fiancewrw@state.gov which is the e-mail address given specifically for fiancé(e) visa inquiries.
Minya's wifeMaleHungary2009-07-02 10:35:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedureshelp me with this income!pls!
QUOTE (AlGosia @ Jul 1 2009, 11:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hi!if the household is 3 how much the income must be? n if we need a sponsort he must fill in I130 n that's all?
N what if the income is ok but my finacee doesn't have any properities etc?help bc we don't know what to do


Income must be 125% of the 2008 Federal Poverty guideline amount for the # in your household.
http://aspe.hhs.gov/...08poverty.shtml

So for 3 people, 125% of $17,600 is 22,000. That's what the income needs to be.
(Unless your fiance lives in Alaska and Hawaii, where the poverty guideline is slightly higher. Please see link above.)

Owning property is not needed if the income requirement is met that's good enough.
Minya's wifeMaleHungary2009-07-01 12:10:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedurespls i need advise
QUOTE (marie_yahya @ Jul 17 2009, 11:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
ok everyone sorry for the confussion forget about the first application it was denied for abandonedment just cos they said they did not get the evidence but that is over with. now i have filed with them in May 2009 work from here. i make 1,100.00 for me,my fiance and my daughter we just want to know if it is ok to do like i said go to morocco til an answer is determind and either come back or stay forever ty


You're posting the same thread all the forums, yet those who respond may not see the responses you've received to your other threads.
What you're calling confusion is exactly what's going to get your second petition to get derailed unless you deal with it. (Your income does not matter at this stage...you still haven't gotten your petition approved sateside).
Which petition is your congressman inquiring about? #1 or #2?
Minya's wifeMaleHungary2009-07-17 11:57:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresPregnant and anxious....want my fiance here!!!
QUOTE (*Len* @ Jul 15 2009, 01:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (almaty @ Jul 15 2009, 10:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (tbaygrrl @ Jul 14 2009, 11:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
One thing that you could do, is provide your fiance with a letter from your doctor confirming the pregnancy and due date and also copies of the pictures from your ultra sound if you have any, as these will have your name on the top of the screen, and any e-mails to your fiance discussing the pregnancy and baby. He can use this as proof of an on-going relationship. It will not expedite the procedure, but it does give the consulate more proof of a legitimate relationship.

Congratulations and good luck



that is no proof as she could be preg. by another male.



Indeed. All that proves is she is pregnant. Is is not proof of bonafide relationship whatsoever no0pb.gif


Why is it that people constantly think having a child by/with the beneficiary somehow goes towards proving relationship legitimacy? This seems to be a constant and I just don't get it. unsure.gif
It only proves that two people had sex...not that the 'relationship' underpinning the visa application is legitimate. The consulate issues family based visas on the legitimacy of the relationship between petitioner and beneficiary, not upon the legitimacy of the coitus between them.
Minya's wifeMaleHungary2009-07-15 13:56:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresPregnant and anxious....want my fiance here!!!
QUOTE (Lina y Mario @ Jul 12 2009, 06:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Okay, so, if everything goes according to MY plan, my fiance should be getting his interview date approximately for the last week of August (God willing!). I won't be able to go to Bogota to accompany him to the interview as I will be 38 weeks pregnant by then. Is there anything that I can do to assure the issuance of the visa? I would love for him to be here by the time our daughter is due - September 15!


Ah, but this 'journey' almost never goes according to our plans. I hope you will be the exception, though and daddy can be there for birth of baby. smile.gif

Good luck!
Minya's wifeMaleHungary2009-07-15 13:50:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedurespictures--photos
Everyone seems to be jumping all over the place with these answers. Getting a K-1 visa for your fiance(e) is a two part process, as we know. For the first part, I-129F petition, the burden of proof is that the petitioner (US citizen) prove that he/she has met his fiance(e) at least once in the 2 years prior to filing the petition. To do this, primary evidence is the best way to go. Primary evidence includes, but is not limited to, passport stamps, flight tickets, hotel receipts, credit card statements (showing charges in the country/city of the beneficiary) etc. Photos are considered secondary evidence at this stage and not necessarily needed. The OP sounds like he has solid primary evidence, and could consider filing without having to make another trip back.
The second stage of the process happens after the petition is approved stateside, and it travels to the country of the beneficiary, where the beneficiary will have a visa interview. At this stage, 'ongoing' relationship is what must be proved. Photos together can become crucial at this point....so while waiting for the petition approval, the OP should make that trip to see his fiancee and take all the pictures possible. Once he comes back, he should document all phone calls, e-mails, IM's, cards and letters. The fiancee can then take all that evidence of ongoing relationship with her to the interview to prove the ongoing relationship.

OP, for a list of all documents you will need, and a good overview of the process, please check out the GUIDES tab. It can be found at the top section of VISA Journey page.


Edited by Minya's wife, 28 July 2009 - 09:21 PM.

Minya's wifeMaleHungary2009-07-28 21:20:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresquestion.... please help!!
Did she not have a medical and get the needed vaccines before she was issued the K-1 visa? If she is missing the necessary vaccines, an immigration medical exam will be needed, performed by a Civil Surgeon. You can check on the USCIS website for a list of Civil Surgeons in your geographic area and contact them.
-P
Minya's wifeMaleHungary2009-08-03 15:48:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresyour document I129F, PETITION FOR FIANCE(E) was processed and mailed to the address on record
QUOTE (@@@@@@ @ Aug 10 2009, 09:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
well you just said earlier that you put my forum into the introduction member thats why i ask
if where i can see it if not in this forum
sorry im not familiar on this site


If you're posting, it means you're viewing the thread correctly....not sure what your original question is though? unsure.gif Your relationship with the petitioner who filled out the I-129F ended...why do you care what happens to the petition?
Minya's wifeMaleHungary2009-08-10 09:32:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresWrinkle in the marriage law? Please explain.
In Peru, if a couple only gets married in church, and does not follow through with marrying in a civil ceremony, are they still considered legally married? If the church ceremony is considered a legal marriage, then it would not be an option for you to do before the K-1 visa interview, and before you fiancee is issued the visa. Many in your situation have used he K-1, came to the states married and then planned a larger church ceremony for the family 'back home' at a later date. It is the more sure route, IMO.


Minya's wifeMaleHungary2009-08-11 21:44:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresKI VISA FOR FIANCE--DOES APPLICATION NEED TO BE TOUCHED FIRST
QUOTE (Jolex @ Aug 17 2009, 10:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey All,

Quick question, does the application need to be touched first before approval. We filed in Feb, it will be 6 months next week.... Still waiting


Not only does it need to be touched, it needs to be FONDLED thoroughly before approval. laughing.gif

Seriously though, there is no rhyme or reason...some petitions show several touches before approval, others...nothing until it is approved.
Hang in there...

-P
Minya's wifeMaleHungary2009-08-17 10:36:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresnot consolidated marriage under US law
QUOTE (ashlesha @ Aug 21 2009, 03:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi, I'm confused..What do you mean, when you say

"I just got my approval letter for fiance application. Now am appling for k1 visa "..

Isn't approval letter for fiance application same as 129 approval?


One is the I-129F fiance visa petition. Once that is approved, the benefiiciary (the foreign fiance(e)) applies for the K-1 visa. The approval letter for the 'application' is the petition, I-129F approval. The next step is to complete the K-1 visa application procedures at the foreign consulate in the country of the foreign beneficiary.
Minya's wifeMaleHungary2009-08-21 15:28:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresnot consolidated marriage under US law
QUOTE (azagurfa @ Aug 21 2009, 11:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
yes I meant consumated not consolidadted , and yes USCIS already approved my petition I think documentations I presented regarding darfur war and and the documentation that refers to on going relations (money transfer receipt for years back to the present) and also I think for the fact that they did not considered my proxy marriage is a legal marriage . I need help for what my fiance would say during the interview if her luck put her with really hard interviewer although the USCIS allready saw my sudanese marriage certificate and they did approve the case.
best regards to you all.


So then what is your question? If your I-129F was approved then you proceed with the interview as any other....you prove ongoing relationship to the satisfaction of the consular official doing the interview. It sounds like you do have documentation of that.
Minya's wifeMaleHungary2009-08-21 11:34:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresnot consolidated marriage under US law
Azagurfa,

Can you please provide us a timeline of your process? It is a little confusing to ascertain where you are in the process. Has your I-129F petition been approved here by USCIS? Are you now waiting for an interview? Have you been in contact with the consulate regarding your question?
Minya's wifeMaleHungary2009-08-21 10:45:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresnot consolidated marriage under US law
QUOTE (azagurfa @ Aug 21 2009, 07:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
its been 8 years since last i met with my fiance and that due to alot of issues concerning civil war and genocide in darfur but i have many documents that prove we have on going relations throughout these years and that it's almost impossible to get there for those reasons. I quess that was the reason the approval of my case .


It is not "consolidated"...I think you mean "consumated", as in you haven't had intimate husband/wife relations? unsure.gif

For the K-1 petition to be approved you have to prove that you have physically seen/been with your fiancee withing the past 2 years. It is the only hard rule that seems to be a constant. In very rare cases, (and I don't think I've seen of a successful case in my time here on VJ) an exemption can be made to this rule if you can prove that due to religious or cultural rules you are not able to meet your fiancee.
I understand that the civil upheaval in your fiancee's country prevents you from going there, but as far as USCIS is concerned, you can both go to a 3rd country to meet and satisfy the petition requirement of meeting before filing the petition.

As for you having filed the I-129F (the K-1 visa petition) and having included a marriage by proxy documents, you have pretty much garnered yourself a petition denial. The I-129F stipulates that you are both unmarried....being married to each other, even if by proxy, would mean you have to file for a spousal visa, not fiancee visa.
Minya's wifeMaleHungary2009-08-21 10:21:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresPlease help, from UK, would like a k1 visa, b2 temporarily?
QUOTE (lancer1655 @ Aug 21 2009, 01:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I would apply for the B2 first. You might look in to some sort of "packaged US trip" that takes say 4 months or something and use that as the reason. You obviously wouldn't actually take the package. If you use the VWP your going to want to stay away for awhile.

Also, either with the VWP or B2 plan a flight that you know gets a US Immigration check in Dublin...it will save you time and money if do get denied entry for some reason.


This is advocating visa fraud and against VJ's Terms of Service. If you're using a tour package then it can be listed as a reason for application on the tourist visa app...but if once just uses the 'itinerary' to strengthen the tourist visa app, with no intention of booking the tour....that's fraud. Not OK to advocate doing that on this site.

To the OP...people are trying to tell you that being in love and not wanting to spend any time separated from your SO is a feeling all of us have gone through...some for longer periods than others. If you're going to navigage this visa journey without any trouble you have to stop and be a little patient. Repeated consecutive uses of VWP may draw attention of tha CPB official at the airport and you may very well find yourself with a denial at entry, and possibly with a ban from entry...which will very well affect the issuance of your K-1.
You definitely can go back and forth...and as demonstrated by many on this forum, it is rather easily done for those that come from countries enjoying VWP....but (and this is the kicker) you must not be perceived to be using that VWP to circumvent immigration laws and the burden to prove otherwise is always on you, the traveler. So, if you've just left the US 4 days ago and now you're back, that could very well look suspicious and saying "well it's unnaceptable for me to wait the possibly 12 months to get a K-1, I have to be with my loved one" is not a valid excuse as far as they're concerned. They will ship you back to the UK on the next available flight on your carrier and won't let you leave the airport premises. Just please keep all that in mind before you book your next trip back here too soon.
Minya's wifeMaleHungary2009-08-21 15:15:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresPlease help, from UK, would like a k1 visa, b2 temporarily?
QUOTE (fsfsfsfs @ Aug 21 2009, 01:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thank you for your reply!

QUOTE
This is a bit of a tricky thing, because the K-1 is a 'non-immigrant visa with an immigrant intent', so by having an I-129F petition in you're basically declaring your immigrant intent....how then do you prove 'non-immigrant' intent which is necessary for the B-2 tourist visa?


I was hoping they would be compatible as long as I didn't have immigrant intent on that specific trip?. As long as I followed proper procedures and can prove that I don't intend to break any laws or stay illegally I was hoping this would be ok. Maybe I just misunderstood the immigration policies? Is this not how it works?

Anyhow I've decided that I will visit on a VWP instead, to avoid any complications. Has anybody here ever been denied entry on a VWP for going back too soon? And can a K1 affect a VWP since that then declares immigrant intent?


Going back after 4 days of returning, too soon....waiting a couple of months, and then going, shouldn't be a problem. The K-1 doesn't affect VWP, because VWP is not a visa...it is a 'privilege' extended to everyone in the UK, you included....there is no application per/se for it...it is a decision that the US has made to grant visa free temporary travel rights to the citizens of your country.
Minya's wifeMaleHungary2009-08-21 13:31:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresPlease help, from UK, would like a k1 visa, b2 temporarily?
QUOTE (fsfsfsfs @ Aug 21 2009, 12:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi, this is my first post here. I hope you guys can help...

I met a girl online over 2 years ago and I recently stayed with her for 45 days. She lives in the US and I in the UK. We would like to live together in the US as soon as possible
I read that it could take upto or even more than 12 months to get a K1 visa. This is just not possible for me. I would like to go and be with her as soon as possible and stay as long as possible.

Ahh, the beauty of love! wub.gif The best advice anyone on here can give you is to learn and practice patience. Even for those that had a relatively short journey, it can seem like eternity. There is no sure-fire way to tell how long it can take, but 12 months seems to be a little excessive. 6-8 months seems to be more accurate.

Is it possible to apply for both a K1 and a B2? I would like to apply for the B2 to stay there for 6 months, with full intent to return back to the UK and then return to the US at a later date on a K1 Visa? Can we state this when applying for the B2?
This is a bit of a tricky thing, because the K-1 is a 'non-immigrant visa with an immigrant intent', so by having an I-129F petition in you're basically declaring your immigrant intent....how then do you prove 'non-immigrant' intent which is necessary for the B-2 tourist visa?
Besides, you have VWP travel...you can use that for trips, and many have traveled back and forth while their visas were processing. Just keep in mind that no matter what visa you have, entrance is never guaranteed...it is always up to the CPB official to grant entry or not. I would certainly wait a little more than 4 days before attempting to come back to visit your fiancee.

I have savings so I should be able to support myself in the US. And I can live with her for all of the 6 months.

Am I likely to be rejected for a B2? There is no way to tell, but in explaining to them why you want a B2, when you can travel on VWP, may give them reason to think twice before issuing a tourist visa.

Does living in the UK mean that there could be a shorter wait time for K1? Not that I know of.

Has anybody here ever been unfairly denied a K1 for a genuine relationship, maybe even a UK/US relationship? What is the chance of this happening? All denials are 'unfair' to the person who gets denied. wink.gif K-1 visas are relatively straight forward if you have met the burden of proof. You can be denied, sure...but I think there are more approvals than denials....especially in the country you're from.

Also, is there some other way for me to be with her in the US besides a B2? She is a student so it isn't possible for her to leave the US. Wait is she in a year round program....if not then most students here have Christmas and Spring breaks and quite a nice long vacation in the summer. All great times for her to go visitin'

Thank you in advance for the help. It means so much to me.

Minya's wifeMaleHungary2009-08-21 13:02:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduressafety of my fiance
QUOTE (FaridS @ Aug 20 2009, 12:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I called USCIS and the lady was very nice to me. She did submit an expedition request for me and told me that I should hear from them within a week if i need to submit anything further. For some reason, her system went down and she couldn't give me a reference number. I am crossing my finger that the request went through before her system crashed.


Have you tried calling back to see if this expedite request has indeed been submitted? I thought expedite requests, for whatever reason, were done in writing....not by whoever's on the other line at the USCIS customer (mis)service center? unsure.gif No wonder "system crashed" and there is no reference number... dry.gif
Minya's wifeMaleHungary2009-08-20 12:36:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresWrath of Creditors
QUOTE (NgocThuan @ Aug 28 2009, 10:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Minya's wife @ Aug 28 2009, 09:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (NgocThuan @ Aug 28 2009, 01:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The most important thing is for you to hide your credit cards when he arrives. Also, get a bank account together for AOS, but don't put any of your money in there; just keep it in your regular account and make sure he doesn't know or have access to that account. Good luck with your marriage.


Yes, definitely good advice to start out a marriage...hide your money from your husband and don't let him access. rolleyes.gif Ever heard of the "...for better for worse, for richer for poorer,...'till death do us part?" Once you marry, you begin to combine your life, which should include finances. USCIS is looking for exactly that at the AOS stage...that you've begun to intermingle your life, and you can bet that they will look even more closely two years down the road at the ROC stage. Suggesting that the OP get an account together but not put money there or utilize it for what its intended "common spending" is suggesting that the OP lie for the purposes of Adjusting Status....which is against the TOS of this site, not to mention really bad advice.

If the OP is really worried that this type of behavior may come up in the future....perhaps a pre-nup is in order. That way she can at least be protected if heaven forbid the relationship ends.
If the future husband has problems managing his finances, perhaps you can look into some sort of classes that teach basic finance to help him understand the importance of money management and credit.
Good luck,
-P

First of all, I never suggested a fake account for AOS purposes. It's still a legit joint account but she doesn't have to keep her life savings in there. Just in case he decides to go on a shopping spree, he won't have access to all of her money. Second of all, a pre-nup wouldn't do any good if he were to max out her credit cards and make a major withdrawal from their account. Finally, we're talking about his character here, not that he doesn't know how to manage his finances. His intention is to run up his credit cards and leave the country. So should she not be concerned about his behavior, and is this a better way to start off a marriage. Get real Opie, we aint in Mayberry anymore! good.gif


Insulting me is definitely winning you points, let me tell you.
You suggested that the OP hide all her credit cards from her husband and get a joint account for AOS, but not deposit any money there. You may have meant something else, but that's not how it read. The way you phrased it, sounded like you were suggesting an end-run around a requirement for the AOS. What you're failing to see is that upon marriage, there should and has to be (especially for the AOS of the immigrant) a co-mingling of finances. Putting safe-guards in place will only hinder that process, and is only a 'band-aid' on the larger problem of risky financial behavior. I'm not sure I would term it a character flaw from only this one snippet of information, but it certainly is something that is giving the OP pause. She should absolutely be concerned about his behavior, and it is definitly a bad way to start off a marriage...but suggesting that she do things to protect her finances, without going further and resolving the underlying issue - which is that the OP's fiance is showing signs of not being financially responsible - is not the way to go either.
Minya's wifeMaleHungary2009-08-28 11:10:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresWrath of Creditors
QUOTE (NgocThuan @ Aug 28 2009, 01:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The most important thing is for you to hide your credit cards when he arrives. Also, get a bank account together for AOS, but don't put any of your money in there; just keep it in your regular account and make sure he doesn't know or have access to that account. Good luck with your marriage.


Yes, definitely good advice to start out a marriage...hide your money from your husband and don't let him access. rolleyes.gif Ever heard of the "...for better for worse, for richer for poorer,...'till death do us part?" Once you marry, you begin to combine your life, which should include finances. USCIS is looking for exactly that at the AOS stage...that you've begun to intermingle your life, and you can bet that they will look even more closely two years down the road at the ROC stage. Suggesting that the OP get an account together but not put money there or utilize it for what its intended "common spending" is suggesting that the OP lie for the purposes of Adjusting Status....which is against the TOS of this site, not to mention really bad advice.

If the OP is really worried that this type of behavior may come up in the future....perhaps a pre-nup is in order. That way she can at least be protected if heaven forbid the relationship ends.
If the future husband has problems managing his finances, perhaps you can look into some sort of classes that teach basic finance to help him understand the importance of money management and credit.
Good luck,
-P
Minya's wifeMaleHungary2009-08-28 10:00:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresFiance Received K1 Visa....
I think the OP is not so upset about how long her fiance is taking in coming here after receiving the visa, I think it is what he is proposing to do during that extra time that is giving her pause. That and the fact that this a complete change of plans from what had been previously discussed. (BTW, my then fiance took 4 weeks after the receipt of the visa to come here...he had to give 2 weeks notice at work, went to see his family for a week, and tied up loose-ends for a week before coming here, but it was something we did discuss before hand so it was not an issue.) He should have discussed with you his plans to max out his credit cards before coming to the US. This type of behavior in your loved one would give anyone pause. What if this means he/she will again make unwise spending choices? Its a valid consideration given what the man proposes to do.

IMHO, the OP is right to be upset...what the fiance is planning on doing is wrong, and the OP is just explaining her frustration with not being able to make her man see that. Attacking the OP with comments like "You must be a peach" are really unnecessary.

Perhaps you can talk with him further, and stress your objection to what he's planning on doing. You definitely should tell him that you will not "cover' for him with his and your family....that if asked you will tell them what he's planning on doing. Asking you to not tell your family about what he's planning on doing indicates that he realizes that his greed for material things is not exemplary behavior. Is there a friend or family member who can perhaps also talk to him? Maybe a cousin or uncle?

I hope you get things sorted out soon.

Minya's wifeMaleHungary2009-08-28 09:43:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresEntering USA on a K-1 Visa. How long must I remain?
CPB can refuse you entry at any time, at their discretion. You could be perceived to be violating the terms of your visa waiver travel privileges...there's no way to tell for sure what will happen. If you've already had issues trying to enter, I would not risk it...

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Minya's wifeMaleHungary2009-08-04 12:32:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresfee
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Is there another fee at the Consulate for the K-1 visa?


US$131 for a non-immigration visa.

She will be coming to live with me in Houston an whe will be immigrating. I paid a $455.00 fee to USCIS for the I 129 F. I looked on their website and from what I could figure out from their tables is that there will be no other fee. However, I continuously see references to another fee sucha as the Citibank fee and do not know if this applies to the fiance visa (K-!) or just others.


K-1 has to pay a fee for the visa to be issued. K-1 is a non-immigrant visa and pays the fee for that type of visa.

How do I find out what that fee is? This is amazing. Without a forum such as this website, there is not enough clear information in any one place as to make this process fluid.


$131 like I said above. Should be on the consulate/embassy's website too.

Just FYI, you know you have the fees for the medical exam and any posible vaccines, plus the AOS fee once your fiance married you. The $455 for the petition is just the tip of the iceberg smile.gif

I know about the other fees. I just wasn't sure about the Consulate.
I am a bit confused though. How is the K-1 a non-immigrant visa? When she marries me, she will be immigrating.
Nevermind. I found all the information of the Consulate website.

Bob and VladiaMaleBrazil2009-05-28 09:20:00
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QUOTE (barrusb @ May 27 2009, 01:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is there another fee at the Consulate for the K-1 visa?


US$131 for a non-immigration visa.

She will be coming to live with me in Houston an whe will be immigrating. I paid a $455.00 fee to USCIS for the I 129 F. I looked on their website and from what I could figure out from their tables is that there will be no other fee. However, I continuously see references to another fee sucha as the Citibank fee and do not know if this applies to the fiance visa (K-!) or just others.


K-1 has to pay a fee for the visa to be issued. K-1 is a non-immigrant visa and pays the fee for that type of visa.

How do I find out what that fee is? This is amazing. Without a forum such as this website, there is not enough clear information in any one place as to make this process fluid.


$131 like I said above. Should be on the consulate/embassy's website too.

Just FYI, you know you have the fees for the medical exam and any posible vaccines, plus the AOS fee once your fiance married you. The $455 for the petition is just the tip of the iceberg smile.gif

I know about the other fees. I just wasn't sure about the Consulate.
I am a bit confused though. How is the K-1 a non-immigrant visa? When she marries me, she will be immigrating.

Bob and VladiaMaleBrazil2009-05-28 09:01:00
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QUOTE (barrusb @ May 27 2009, 01:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is there another fee at the Consulate for the K-1 visa?


US$131 for a non-immigration visa.

She will be coming to live with me in Houston an whe will be immigrating. I paid a $455.00 fee to USCIS for the I 129 F. I looked on their website and from what I could figure out from their tables is that there will be no other fee. However, I continuously see references to another fee sucha as the Citibank fee and do not know if this applies to the fiance visa (K-!) or just others.


K-1 has to pay a fee for the visa to be issued. K-1 is a non-immigrant visa and pays the fee for that type of visa.

How do I find out what that fee is? This is amazing. Without a forum such as this website, there is not enough clear information in any one place as to make this process fluid.


$131 like I said above. Should be on the consulate/embassy's website too.

Just FYI, you know you have the fees for the medical exam and any posible vaccines, plus the AOS fee once your fiance married you. The $455 for the petition is just the tip of the iceberg smile.gif

I know about the other fees. I just wasn't sure about the Consulate.
Bob and VladiaMaleBrazil2009-05-28 08:28:00
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QUOTE (Ed+Cindy @ May 27 2009, 03:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (barrusb @ May 27 2009, 01:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is there another fee at the Consulate for the K-1 visa?


US$131 for a non-immigration visa.

She will be coming to live with me in Houston an whe will be immigrating. I paid a $455.00 fee to USCIS for the I 129 F. I looked on their website and from what I could figure out from their tables is that there will be no other fee. However, I continuously see references to another fee sucha as the Citibank fee and do not know if this applies to the fiance visa (K-!) or just others.


K-1 has to pay a fee for the visa to be issued. K-1 is a non-immigrant visa and pays the fee for that type of visa.

How do I find out what that fee is? This is amazing. Without a forum such as this website, there is not enough clear information in any one place as to make this process fluid.
Bob and VladiaMaleBrazil2009-05-27 20:12:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresfee
QUOTE (Ed+Cindy @ May 27 2009, 03:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (barrusb @ May 27 2009, 01:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is there another fee at the Consulate for the K-1 visa?


US$131 for a non-immigration visa.

She will be coming to live with me in Houston an whe will be immigrating. I paid a $455.00 fee to USCIS for the I 129 F. I looked on their website and from what I could figure out from their tables is that there will be no other fee. However, I continuously see references to another fee sucha as the Citibank fee and do not know if this applies to the fiance visa (K-!) or just others.
Bob and VladiaMaleBrazil2009-05-27 17:27:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresfee
Is there another fee at the Consulate for the K-1 visa?
Bob and VladiaMaleBrazil2009-05-27 15:14:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresCant believe I just found Visa Journey
QUOTE (Rewaudi @ Aug 5 2009, 02:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
WOW!! This site is amazing, I only wish I had found it sooner. Probably would have saved me a lot of time and money. Yesterday my fiance was approved her K-1 Visa in Brazil. I am so excited especially since this whole process has lasted just about a year. I (unfortunately) got a lawyer thinking it would expedite the whole process but looking back on it I think I would have been better off just finding this website. I plan on sharing my story and all the trials and tribulations, but first I would like to say HELLO and venture around this new found website.
I did it without a lawyer and we just got approved by USCIS. Now it is off to Rio. I'm getting nervous.

Bob and VladiaMaleBrazil2009-08-05 15:23:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSealed envelope from medical
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My fiance has to fly from Fortaleza to Recife to get her medical. It's hard to believe that a city as large as Fortaleza does not have a doctor certified by the American Consulate. I'm concerned about 2 things. How long will it take to complete the medical and how long till the doctor has the sealed envelope? Does she have to pick up the envelope herself? This is crucial because if it takes a couple of weeks to get the envelope then she is going to have to fly back to Recife just to pick it up which is a waste of money and time. Can the doctor send it to her or can she have someone who lives in Recife pick it up for her?


It is very common that there is only one medical clinic authorized for this in the country. In Ukraine you have the medical exam in the morning and have the results same day after 3pm. It varies by country. Ask in the latin American forum for specific answers for Brazil
This post shows up on the Brazil portal page so I'm sure it is being seen by Brazilian immigrants. It looks like I have to call the doctor's officed. fortunately there are 2 doctors in Recife, better chance of having one of the doctors help out.

Bob and VladiaMaleBrazil2009-08-06 14:31:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSealed envelope from medical
My fiance has to fly from Fortaleza to Recife to get her medical. It's hard to believe that a city as large as Fortaleza does not have a doctor certified by the American Consulate. I'm concerned about 2 things. How long will it take to complete the medical and how long till the doctor has the sealed envelope? Does she have to pick up the envelope herself? This is crucial because if it takes a couple of weeks to get the envelope then she is going to have to fly back to Recife just to pick it up which is a waste of money and time. Can the doctor send it to her or can she have someone who lives in Recife pick it up for her?
Bob and VladiaMaleBrazil2009-08-05 15:30:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresNOA2
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How long would my fiance have to complete the interview and get her visa after we recieve the NOA2? unsure.gif



It depends on how fast your case gets passed to the consulate when I have been reading on the forums.
M and F ForeverMaleIndia2009-08-22 05:18:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresI need your help......
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QUOTE (Gemmie @ Oct 20 2008, 06:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I wish people wouldn't pass judgement on someone just because she's trying to do this with her heart AND her head. I did the same thing myself, used my heart and my head, not because I didn't trust my partner.. but because I wanted to look logically at all of the aspects before making such a big decision and leaving my previous life behind.


I was NOT passing judgement had you read it properly you would have understood that I was saying IF she has issues with the what ifs then WAIT. Like another poster stated ..get the things you want FIRST out of the way before you make a full blown commitment. Rose colored glasses do come off and then the reality hits.
YES she is loving her man and YES she is smart enough to be thinking about these issues. MY POINT WAS that IF she is thinking about these issues and saying a ton of what IFS then she does not need to get married just yet.
There was a question of trust. SO therefore it was far from naive my friend.
I was IN HER SHOES 2 times and I cant tell you how many times I wish I would have stated the what ifs INSTEAD of wearing the rose colored glasses and thinking that it was a fairytale

NOT once did I say her thoughts were unreasonable. whistling.gif mad.gif blink.gif
JEEZ


No need for getting snippy...I also read your your initial comment as a bit condescending, if not entirely judgmental. My statement that the rose colored glasses do come off, was intedended towards Haole's entirely judgemental comment that:
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Sorry but you sound like you're more concerned about getting a GC than having a loving marriage. Got to worry about getting married before you worry about staying in the US when you a divorce! blink.gif
Hint! Have a loving marriage and EVERYTHING will work out just fine!

and taken out of context for your use. I meant to say that in light of the rose colored glasses falling off after a while, the OP's worries about her future were not unfounded, and they certainly did not hint that she was a 'gold digger'...just a girl with some question..

The OP's questions were concise and had to do with immigration. It is not really our place to advise on relationship issues, unless he/she specifically asks for it...which I did not see in the original post. While it is OK that many give opinions and advice on how to best ensure that an international relationship/marriage survives, that is not the purpose of VJ, nor should it be the main focus of a reply. IMO we're here to offer advice about immigration, not relationships.

-P
Minya's wifeMaleHungary2008-10-20 12:33:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresI need your help......
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QUOTE (rocksteady @ Oct 19 2008, 07:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi first let me introduce myself, Im from Thailand, im a fashion designer and im 24. My boyfriend lives in California he is 25. We met last year in Dec.2007 and ever since we still contacting each other (long distance relationship). In May 2008 he send me a plane ticket to go visit him and our relationship sort of elevated from there. He did ask me to marry him so that we can be together but it was too sudden and I was a little skeptical. Now I realized that I want to be with him, because we survive many months of not seeing each other and that have proven to me that we have a strong foundation. He will come and visit me in Jan 2009.

At first i was going to go there using a tourist visas and see what it would be like with him there. So if everything went well, we will get married there and then apply for the K1 visas. I must admit although we knew each other for only a year, but I do trust him. But the future is uncertain, if he ever decided to divorce me or some terrible thing happen, I hope not, where does that leave me and how do i deal with it? I feel like I should plan ahead of the worst thing that can happen. The last thing I want is being deported, because I secrefied my dream job here. I don't want to go back home divorced and unemploy. The thing that scares me the most is the complicated processes will drift us apart. So I would like to know what is the best way to approach this situation?

Questions:
1. Should we get married here in Thailand and try to get the K1 visas from here or would it be faster and easier for us to married in the states?
2.If I go with a tourist visa does that allow me to get married and file for a K1 visa there?
3.If he ever decided to divorce me ,how do i deal with it? Is there anyway for me to stay there legally?
4.Once I get a green card I am save for another 3 years is that true?
5.During the time that the green card is being process/arrive will i be able to work?

Please help me....Thank you!

Sorry but you sound like you're more concerned about getting a GC than having a loving marriage. Got to worry about getting married before you worry about staying in the US when you a divorce! blink.gif
Hint! Have a loving marriage and EVERYTHING will work out just fine!


Hint, just because one has a loving marriage, does not mean EVERYTHING works out fine. Rose colored glasses only take you so far. The OP was simply asking some questions...but to me it sounded more like someone who has no idea of the process....not someone who's more interested in a GC. There is nothing wrong with wanting some security in your future, and this does not mean that one is a gold digger. The issues worrying the OP are those that have crossed anyone's mind to a certain extend because the focus on the perennial 'what if?'

rocksteady, please do more research on the choices you're facing as they pertain to your potential emigration to the US and discuss with your fiancee those issues of a more personal nature, such as your worries about the 'what if's' in case of divorce.

-P
Minya's wifeMaleHungary2008-10-20 01:28:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresI need your help......
QUOTE (rocksteady @ Oct 20 2008, 12:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Questions:
1. Should we get married here in Thailand and try to get the K1 visas from here or would it be faster and easier for us to married in the states?
No. The K-1 is a fiancee visa...intended to be used to enter the US one time to marry your US citizen fiance. So you cannot be married at the time the visa is issued to you.
2.If I go with a tourist visa does that allow me to get married and file for a K1 visa there?
No....using a tourist visa, for another purpose besides "visiting" is considered visa fraud.
3.If he ever decided to divorce me ,how do i deal with it? Is there anyway for me to stay there legally?
This is a personal issue, and should be discussed with your fiancee before any decisions are made. The second portion of your question is confusing, what do you mean is there a way for you to stay here legally? If you are the wife of a US citizen, you are eligible to apply for residency...so that you would have legal right to reside in the US.
4.Once I get a green card I am save for another 3 years is that true?
Safe for 3 years? Safe from what? Once you get the initial green card, it will be a 2 year conditional green card. After those 2 years, you will again apply to remove the "conditional" status.
5.During the time that the green card is being process/arrive will i be able to work?
Yes, if you apply for an Employment Authorization Document (EAD).
Please help me....Thank you!


I think you need to do further research to understand what is involved. You're using terms that I'm not sure you quite understand. Please read the guides available here on this site for more information, and have your fiancee also look here. Once you are better informed you can make the best decision regarding your future.
-P
Minya's wifeMaleHungary2008-10-20 01:20:00