Forum	Title	Content	Member	Sex	Country	Date/Time
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	2010 Interviews at HCMC Consulate: MEMBER NAME................INTERVIEW DATE.....RESULT............ JANUARY JasonandHien (CR1)..................01-20-2010...Blue-Timeline-Resubmit 00-00-2010....APPROVED VN10 (CR1)..............................01-21-2010...APPROVED Josh_A(CR1).............................01-21-2010...Blue-Police Cert, Parental info, Timeline-Resubmit 03-05-2010...Blue-AP Scottthuy (K1)...........................01-26-2010...Blue-Police Cert, ex's info, Timeline-Resubmit 02-23-2010...Blue-police cert resubmit 3-1-10...Blue-AP FEBRUARY VanNick (K1) .............................02-02-2010...APPROVED Asian206 (CR1)..........................02-02-2010...Blue-Timeline-Resubmit 03-03-2010...APPROVED Hantinh (K1)..............................02-02-2010...Blue-Timeline-Resubmit 03-03-2010...APPROVED Kevin and Tuyen(CR1 reaffirm)....02-05-2010...Green-I-864, Passport Photos-Resubmit 03-05-2010...APPROVED MARCH Shy1akaanh (CR1).....................03-01-2010...APPROVED Robert & Mai (K1 reaffirm)...........03-04-2010...Blue-AP Steve & Chi (K1).........................03-15-2010	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2010-03-15 18:44:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	2010 Interviews at HCMC Consulate: MEMBER NAME................INTERVIEW DATE......RESULT............ JANUARY JasonandHien (CR1)..................01-20-2010.........Blue.....Timeline....Resubmit 00-00-2010 VN10 (CR1).............................01-21-2010.........APPROVED Josh_A(CR1)...........................01-21-2010.........Blue.....Police Cert, Parental info, Timeline....Resubmit 03-05-2010 Scottthuy (K1)........................01-26-2010.........Blue.....Police Cert, ex's info, Timeline.....Resubmit 02-23-2010.....Blue.....police cert resubmit 3-1-10......Blue.......AP FEBRUARY VanNick (K1) ..........................02-02-2010.........APPROVED Asian206 (CR1)........................02-02-2010.........Blue.....Timeline....Resubmit 03-03-2010 Hantinh (K1)............................02-02-2010.........Blue.....Timeline....Resubmit 03-03-2010 Kevin and Tuyen(CR1 reaffirm)....02-05-2010........Green.....I-864, Passport Photos....Resubmit 03-05-2010 MARCH Shy1akaanh (CR1)....................03-01-2010.........APPROVED Robert & Mai (K1 reaffirm)..........03-04-2010 Steve & Chi (K1)......................03-15-2010 Edited by jeromebinh, 03 March 2010 - 10:53 AM.	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2010-03-03 10:50:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	2010 Interviews at HCMC Consulate: MEMBER NAME................INTERVIEW DATE......RESULT............ JasonandHien (CR1)..................01-20-2010.........Blue.....Timeline....Resubmit 00-00-2010 VN10 (CR1).............................01-21-2010.........APPROVED Josh_A(CR1)...........................01-21-2010.........Blue.....Police Cert, Parental info, Timeline....Resubmit 03-05-2010 Scottthuy (K1)........................01-26-2010.........Blue.....Police Cert, ex's info, Timeline.....Resubmit 02-23-2010.....Blue.....police cert resubmit 3-1-10......Blue.......AP VanNick (K1) ..........................02-02-2010.........APPROVED Asian206 (CR1)........................02-02-2010.........Blue.....Timeline....Resubmit 03-03-2010 Hantinh (K1)............................02-02-2010.........Blue.....Timeline....Resubmit 03-03-2010 Kevin and Tuyen(CR1 reaffirm)....02-05-2010........Green.....I-864, Passport Photos....Resubmit 03-05-2010 Shy1akaanh (CR1)....................03-01-2010.........APPROVED Robert & Mai (K1 reaffirm)..........03-04-2010 Steve & Chi (K1)......................03-15-2010	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2010-03-03 10:42:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	My wife said the same thing before she was ultimately denied and we asked the Mullins group who was working on our case what the pink paper was and they said it's there checklist. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. that was a long time ago, and we are past that, so no big deal, but fyi when Binh said she saw pink, it was not any checklist it was the actual approval letter. She was actually able to see her name and the case number and a few other words, and it was not any type of checklist. Jerome	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2010-02-27 16:58:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	They said the police cert was from her district and not the city near where she lives.. so we have to get yet a 3rd police cert and it will be fed-ex'd here thurs and we will submit as soon as we get it... the man said everything was ok except for the police cert. makes no sense.. I would think it would be the other way around.. that they would want a police cert from the local office but that was not the case... only 3.5 hours of waiting to find that out... I only see a few pinks coming out... many blues and some greens... only around 25 people came with pinks to pickup visas... 2010 Interviews at HCMC Consulate: MEMBER NAME................INTERVIEW DATE......RESULT............ JasonandHien (CR1)..................01-20-2010.........Blue.....Timeline....Resubmit 00-00-2010 VN10 (CR1)..............................01-21-2010.........APPROVED Josh_A(CR1).............................01-21-2010.........Blue.....Police Cert, Parental info, Timeline....Resubmit 03-05-2010 Scottthuy (K1)...........................01-26-2010.........Blue.....Police Cert, ex's info, Timeline.....Resubmit 02-23-2010--- another police cert required will submit 2-25 VanNick (K1) .............................02-02-2010.........APPROVED Asian206 (CR1)..........................02-02-2010.........Blue.....Timeline....Resubmit 03-03-2010 Hantinh (K1)..............................02-02-2010.........Blue.....Timeline....Resubmit 03-03-2010 Kevin and Tuyen(CR1 reaffirm)....02-05-2010........Green.....I-864, Passport Photos....Resubmit 03-05-2010 Shy1akaanh (CR1).....................03-01-2010 Robert & Mai (K1 reaffirm)...........03-04-2010 Steve & Chi (K1).........................03-15-2010 That sucks, I am glad that we submitted everything they wanted early just for that reason. Hopefully they will allow you to resubmit after the requested date. It would be C?C BÒ if they refused to accept it. Edited by jeromebinh, 23 February 2010 - 10:04 AM.	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2010-02-23 10:03:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	2010 Interviews at HCMC Consulate: MEMBER NAME................INTERVIEW DATE......RESULT............ JasonandHien (CR1)..................01-20-2010.........Blue.....Timeline....Resubmit 00-00-2010 VN10 (CR1)..............................01-21-2010.........APPROVED Josh_A(CR1).............................01-21-2010.........Blue.....Police Cert, Parental info, Timeline....Resubmit 03-05-2010 Scottthuy (K1)...........................01-26-2010.........Blue.....Police Cert, ex's info, Timeline.....Resubmit 02-23-2010 VanNick (K1) .............................02-02-2010.........APPROVED Asian206 (CR1)..........................02-02-2010.........Blue.....Timeline....Resubmit 03-03-2010 Hantinh (K1)..............................02-02-2010.........Blue.....Timeline....Resubmit 03-03-2010 Kevin and Tuyen(CR1 reaffirm)....02-05-2010........Green.....I-864, Passport Photos....Resubmit 03-05-2010 Shy1akaanh (CR1).....................03-01-2010 Robert & Mai (K1 reaffirm)...........03-04-2010 Steve & Chi (K1).........................03-15-2010	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2010-02-21 16:36:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	VJ Members currently in AP at HCMC: Vi&Art__________________8/5/2009 K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Frank And Duyen (effjaye)___10/20/2009 CR1 Visa - First Blue RFE: Timeline James & Nicole_____________12/4/09 Blue-timeline, ex-wifes address, medical results from Cho Ray 1/4/10 White/AP medical results from Cho Ray AnhBob___________________12/07/09 Blue:proof of bonafide, timeline, info about ex, info about child VJ Members who made it out of AP & results: Lindal24 ________________7/8/2009 - 10/7/2009 - 91 days in AP - APPROVED CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & List of Relatives FrednDaoHoney__________1/17/2009 - 10/15/2009 - 271 days in AP - APPROVED JohnCali9 _______________8/6/2009 - 10/21/2009 - 76 days in AP - APPROVED K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Ex-wife's situation & Timeline MichaelAndKha___________8/15/2009 - 10/21/2009 - 67 days in AP - Denied K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Timeline Reasons for Denial: 1.Inconsistent photos, 2.No engagement ceremony, 3.Lack of marriage ceremony details Andy (not a VJ member)____8/17/2009 - 10/23/2009 - 67 days in AP - Denied K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Minh&Nhan (not a VJ member)__09/07/2009 - 10/23/2009 - 46 days in AP - APPROVED Huong and Phung _________9/8/2009 - 10/27/2009 - 49 days in AP - Denied CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline JeromeBinh______________8/20/2009 - 10/28/2009 - 69 days in AP - Denied K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Ex-wife's situation, Timeline & List of Relatives Reasons for Denial: 1.Inconsistent Photos, 2.Communiciation not credible, 3.One visit, 4.Small engagement, 5.Engagement shortly after meeting, 6.B has 3 relatives in US, but only listed 2; P lived close to B's relatives, 7.Lack of marriage ceremony details Ly Trinh _________________8/21/2009 - 10/28/2009 - 68 days in AP - Denied (?) CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Timeline Ituan __________________8/10/2009 - 09/15/2009 - 36 days in AP - Denied Additional interview granted for 11/11 2nd denial K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline ToanTien________________8/20/2009 - days in AP APPROVED CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline-- co-sponsor	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2010-02-16 13:53:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	2010 Interviews at HCMC Consulate: MEMBER NAME................INTERVIEW DATE......RESULT............ JasonandHien (CR1)..................01-20-2010.........Blue.....Timeline....Resubmit 00-00-2010 VN10 (CR1)..............................01-21-2010.........APPROVED Josh_A(CR1).............................01-21-2010.........Blue.....Police Cert, Parental info, Timeline....Resubmit 03-05-2010 Scottthuy (K1)...........................01-26-2010.........Blue.....Police Cert, ex's info, Timeline.....Resubmit 02-23-2010 VanNick (K1) .............................02-02-2010.........APPROVED Asian206 (CR1)..........................02-02-2010.........Blue.....Timeline....Resubmit 03-03-2010 Hantinh (K1)..............................02-02-2010.........Blue.....Timeline....Resubmit 00-00-2010 Kevin and Tuyen(CR1 reaffirm)....02-05-2010........Green.....I-864, Passport Photos....Resubmit 03-05-2010 Shy1akaanh (CR1).....................03-01-2010 Robert & Mai (K1 reaffirm)...........03-04-2010 Steve & Chi (K1).........................03-15-2010	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2010-02-16 13:51:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	Isn't this the same as the original topic? They should be combined Jerome Edited by jeromebinh, 07 January 2010 - 10:09 AM.	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2010-01-07 10:05:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	VJ Members currently in AP at HCMC: Vi&Art__________________8/5/2009 K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Frank And Duyen (effjaye)___10/20/2009 CR1 Visa - First Blue RFE: Timeline VJ Members who made it out of AP & results: Lindal24 ________________7/8/2009 - 10/7/2009 - 91 days in AP - APPROVED CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & List of Relatives FrednDaoHoney__________1/17/2009 - 10/15/2009 - 271 days in AP - APPROVED JohnCali9 _______________8/6/2009 - 10/21/2009 - 76 days in AP - APPROVED K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Ex-wife's situation & Timeline MichaelAndKha___________8/15/2009 - 10/21/2009 - 67 days in AP - Denied K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Timeline Reasons for Denial: 1.Inconsistent photos, 2.No engagement ceremony, 3.Lack of marriage ceremony details Andy (not a VJ member)____8/17/2009 - 10/23/2009 - 67 days in AP - Denied K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Minh&Nhan (not a VJ member)__09/07/2009 - 10/23/2009 - 46 days in AP - APPROVED Huong and Phung _________9/8/2009 - 10/27/2009 - 49 days in AP - Denied CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline JeromeBinh______________8/20/2009 - 10/28/2009 - 69 days in AP - Denied K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Ex-wife's situation, Timeline & List of Relatives Reasons for Denial: 1.Inconsistent Photos, 2.Communiciation not credible, 3.One visit, 4.Small engagement, 5.Engagement shortly after meeting, 6.B has 3 relatives in US, but only listed 2; P lived close to B's relatives, 7.Lack of marriage ceremony details Ly Trinh _________________8/21/2009 - 10/28/2009 - 68 days in AP - Denied (?) CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Timeline Ituan __________________8/10/2009 - 09/15/2009 - 36 days in AP - Denied Additional interview granted for 11/11 2nd denial K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline ToanTien________________8/20/2009 - days in AP APPROVED CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline-- co-sponsor... yes I said co-sponsor	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2010-01-01 18:00:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (effjaye @ Dec 24 2009, 02:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Were still waiting for a response. I went to see my wife november 26 thru dec 12. Went to the consulate 4 times to submit yet more evidence and speak to a co. the first three times I went all they would tell me was our case is waiting to be looked at, on the fourth trip they told me our case was now being reviewed. It could be that all the additional evidence we submitted is causing further delay. Duyen and I both email them regularly and I also have had my congressman inquire about our case as well. I now spend my lunch hour calling the state dept for a status change. Otherwise had a great time with my wife, son and extended family ate and lounged around a lot also took a trip to Vung Tau for a weekend, what a fantastic getaway that was. All too soon it was time to say good bye again and fly back to ice cold SF. Good byes are harder now as we hoped to be together by now. All we can do is pray we get some good news from the consulate soon. From what I can see on the AP list here is 60-90 days seems about the the time we should know something, today is the 64th day in AP. I will update you all when there is a change in our case. Merry Christmas to all Frank And Duyen Yes the resubmittion could cause more delays, but at least they know you were there again, and it should help. Good luck and I wish you the best! Jerome	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-12-24 15:12:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (Dai_Tx @ Nov 2 2009, 02:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I feel ya Huong. Just take it a day at a time hopefully things get better for you. It sucks you got the denial man, I truely felt that you are your wife are genuine. IF I was in your situation I would drop everything I had going on in the US and fly to Vietnam Immediately to go plead yourself to the consulate and demand the reason of the denial of your wife's visa. Family comes 1st before all things. But that is just me and how I would feel if I was in your situation.. Good Luck. He got all his information back, all the evidences they sent, the whole 9 yards, this means it has been sent back to the USA already. If they still had things this means they have not sent it back yet, but in his case they got everything back, not just the denial like Binh and I. Brother Huong, hang in there man. Think of it like this. They were wrong, you know that, people make mistakes, but you still have options, one option is to refile today, and you also know why they denied you the first time, you can front load all the proof that they said were reasons for denial, you also know that you can now make them take the other evidences. I know that another 7 plus months suck, but if this is the way it has to be it has to be. There is no use crying over split milk, it only makes you feel better why you are crying. Life is not over, you are a;live and so is your wife. In a perfect world, we would only need to make one phone ca;l;l and say " hey I want my wife here" and she would get a visa. But this is not a perfect world, you just have to realize that some people get denied wrongfully, and others get approved when they are being scammed. Some even sponge all the info from other people they can, ask them to write letters to congressmen and other things like this, then they try to offer advice to others saying they are good to go when we all know they got lucky, this is no reason to get mad at them, we know the truth, it is just luck of the draw, no matter who gets approved, they can NOT tell you how to do your case and GUARANTEE you a approval, all cases are DIFFERENT, this is the facts. You, Ly, and me were the unlucky ones this round, cuc happens bro. Hang in there, you do still have options, but for your options to be fully realized you need to try to be calm and as happy as possible. Look forward, not at the past. What you wanted 2 days before the denial you still want today, remain focused on your prize and eventually everything will fall into place. Housing in HCMC in some places is cheap, others is high, but in the countryside it is dirt cheap, with your translation cert, and your English skills, working in Vietnam will be easy for you, and if you are there for over 6 months you can do a direct consular file, and how can they then deny you the visa?? Stay strong bro, your wife, and family are depending on it Jerome VJ Members currently in AP at HCMC: Ituan __________________8/10/2009 - 09/15/2009 - 36 days in AP - Denied Additional interview granted for 11/11 K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Vi&Art__________________8/5/2009 K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline ToanTien________________8/20/2009 CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Frank And Duyen (effjaye)___10/20/2009 CR1 Visa - First Blue RFE: Timeline VJ Members who made it out of AP & results: Lindal24 ________________7/8/2009 - 10/7/2009 - 91 days in AP - APPROVED CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & List of Relatives FrednDaoHoney__________1/17/2009 - 10/15/2009 - 271 days in AP - APPROVED JohnCali9 _______________8/6/2009 - 10/21/2009 - 76 days in AP - APPROVED K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Ex-wife's situation & Timeline MichaelAndKha___________8/15/2009 - 10/21/2009 - 67 days in AP - Denied K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Timeline Reasons for Denial: 1.Inconsistent photos, 2.No engagement ceremony, 3.Lack of marriage ceremony details Andy (not a VJ member)____8/17/2009 - 10/23/2009 - 67 days in AP - Denied K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Minh&Nhan (not a VJ member)__09/07/2009 - 10/23/2009 - 46 days in AP - APPROVED Huong and Phung _________9/8/2009 - 10/27/2009 - 49 days in AP - Denied CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline JeromeBinh______________8/20/2009 - 10/28/2009 - 69 days in AP - Denied K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Ex-wife's situation, Timeline & List of Relatives Reasons for Denial: 1.Inconsistent Photos, 2.Communiciation not credible, 3.One visit, 4.Small engagement, 5.Engagement shortly after meeting, 6.B has 3 relatives in US, but only listed 2; P lived close to B's relatives, 7.Lack of marriage ceremony details Ly Trinh _________________8/21/2009 - 10/28/2009 - 68 days in AP - Denied CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Timeline Please add yourself if you are currently in Administrative Processing "AP" (aka the 2nd blue slip). LindaL24 has a copy of the Blue AP slip, Pink Approval Slip, and US Visa issued by HCMC Consulate under "My Photos"	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-11-02 06:15:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (toantien @ Oct 30 2009, 02:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (jeromebinh @ Oct 30 2009, 02:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (toantien @ Oct 30 2009, 01:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (ScottThuy @ Oct 30 2009, 01:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (toantien @ Oct 30 2009, 11:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm just worried that we might got denied and they haven't inform us. Thats what making me go nuts. I want to come back before they make any decision and submit more evidence...If we got denied it better be a really good reason. I can't imagine what the reason would be...It's giving me the chills. Everyone after me has gotten a decision, but not us yet....That's what's really driving me crazy. Call Department fo State and ask the status of the case.. 202-663-1225.. they will know if the consuate has decided yet... thanks scott, i just called them, wow i was so nervous asking for case status, i'm still shaking...my case is still under review they haven't gotten a decision yet...wheewwwwwwwww glad we still have hope.. Not trying to keep you down, when I went in, they told me that they HAD not even looked at it since resubmission, then all at once we got denied and they said I had only made one trip. I think it was already denied while I was there, and they just did not want to tell be because they knew with me there it would be hard to argue their bs. I HOPE what they say to you is true, and hopefully if they are not telling the truth or the person you talked to did not really "LOOK" into it and it is sitting there approved waiting for someone to sign off and send the notice out. There are hundreds of positives if you just called and they said nothing new, just be ready if something changes over night, they might have been telling me the truth, and me going there made them think "Ohh sht" he is almost past his 90 days we better get on it, and then decide to make the wrong decision and deny us. Good luck. Jerome That would really sucks, if they treat everyone's case like that. I'm praying everyday and night. Its has only been over a month since my wife and i are together, it's been hard seems like a long time. I just can't imagine having to do a rebuttal and waiting again. Regardless i'm gonna keep my heads up and fight to the end. I really feel bad for all of those who just got denied, I keep on imagining how i would be if we got denied, and how my wife would be. Thanks all. Toan Thanks, I cant speak for the rest, but I know even with a denial my life is not over, i am still depressed, but that is expected. This just means instead of retirement, I will live in Vietnam that much sooner. The only real reason we wanted a visa for her was to get her citizenship was so that we could raise our children here, and give them a good education, then go back to Vietnam and retire there, but with citizenship she could come with me for visits to my family, and she really wanted to get to know my family. That sucks, but the real thing is we still know we will be together no matter what. Jerome Edited by jeromebinh, 30 October 2009 - 03:07 PM.	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-30 15:06:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (toantien @ Oct 30 2009, 01:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (ScottThuy @ Oct 30 2009, 01:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (toantien @ Oct 30 2009, 11:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm just worried that we might got denied and they haven't inform us. Thats what making me go nuts. I want to come back before they make any decision and submit more evidence...If we got denied it better be a really good reason. I can't imagine what the reason would be...It's giving me the chills. Everyone after me has gotten a decision, but not us yet....That's what's really driving me crazy. Call Department fo State and ask the status of the case.. 202-663-1225.. they will know if the consuate has decided yet... thanks scott, i just called them, wow i was so nervous asking for case status, i'm still shaking...my case is still under review they haven't gotten a decision yet...wheewwwwwwwww glad we still have hope.. Not trying to keep you down, when I went in, they told me that they HAD not even looked at it since resubmission, then all at once we got denied and they said I had only made one trip. I think it was already denied while I was there, and they just did not want to tell be because they knew with me there it would be hard to argue their bs. I HOPE what they say to you is true, and hopefully if they are not telling the truth or the person you talked to did not really "LOOK" into it and it is sitting there approved waiting for someone to sign off and send the notice out. There are hundreds of positives if you just called and they said nothing new, just be ready if something changes over night, they might have been telling me the truth, and me going there made them think "Ohh sht" he is almost past his 90 days we better get on it, and then decide to make the wrong decision and deny us. Good luck. Jerome	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-30 14:46:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (toantien @ Oct 30 2009, 10:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm just worried that we might got denied and they haven't inform us. Thats what making me go nuts. I want to come back before they make any decision and submit more evidence...If we got denied it better be a really good reason. I can't imagine what the reason would be...It's giving me the chills. Everyone after me has gotten a decision, but not us yet....That's what's really driving me crazy. Good luck and try to relax, If you show up and still no word it might be a good thing. We are praying for you. Jerome	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-30 10:40:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (lindal24 @ Oct 30 2009, 10:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Any updates from Vi&Art, ToanTien, or LyTrinh? Ly denied same day as houng and us QUOTE (toantien @ Oct 30 2009, 10:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm going back to vietnam on the 4th. My wife spoke with lytrinh and she told me he got denied. This is getting crazy guys. I dont'' know what's going on at the consulate. I just got back from vietnam on the 23rd of september now i'm going back again next week, i hope this will let them know that i'm no fraud. I'll update if anything goes. Bro, even if it extends your AP, submit proof of your extra trips, and any new chat logs, just my advice, might be worth the wait if it helps get you approved. Jerome	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-30 10:27:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (fred n Dao Honey @ Oct 29 2009, 08:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (jeromebinh @ Oct 29 2009, 06:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Here are the reasons for our denial. Mark Ellis thinks it has something to do with my end and my ex wife history with her being in prison for such a serious crime. he also said our time line was great and the mock interview that he had with binh went well. She was slightly confusing when she talks about my job, but my job is hard to explain to anyone. This is also the feed back from Mark Ellis about my case, if anyone has questions about anything here, pm me, and i can give you answers, or if you need help i will share our experiences with you. supposedly we had 5 days worth of photos showing we were together.----we had hundreds of photos at the interview and hundreds more now communication not creditable, our phone records show only short calls, 1 to 3 minutes in length.------we only use phone when INTERNET is down, and to save money we usually simply keep it short and just wait to the next day to chat I only visited her once and has not been there since December.----------- 3 provable trips total now we submitted only evidence of a small inconsequential engagement ceremony no American guests.-------there were close to 100 guests, and in photos there were white people, CO never asked her if any of my family came there or not, and never commented on the white people in the photo's I proposed in a short time of meeting her and had a engagement ceremony shortly after.-----in time line we mentioned that we talked about marriage, but wanted to meet in person to make sure, when I went first time we knew then we were going to be engaged, so we started to plan for Dam Hoi binh said 3 relatives living in Texas, California, and Ohio, then she submitted evidence of California and Kansas and supposedly public records show that I live in Kansas-----Old public records show I live in Kansas, never Kansas City where her aunt lives, the relative in Texas would never send any thing to her to show he lived there so we left that one out unable to prove facts about our wedding, she did not know about estimated costs, or guests---------I did not even know this answer as we only had the date figured out, I have no idea who would come because they say not to plan anything until we have the visa. they investigated where I live and it shows that I do not live where I live. my passport records from 2007 show I live in Salem Indiana, not campbellsburg, which I did live in Salem when I filed for my passport, They also say that I have a record showing that I lived at my work address, this was because when they sent my passport back someone had to sign for it and I was working 5 days per week so I had them send it to work so I could sign for it. RECOMMENDATIONS: Free background check on petitioner. The consulate is obviously looking at something on his end. The background check might show us something. File new K-1 with IMBRA waiver request & full explanation of P’s ex-wife’s incarceration, criminal & marital history. This a K-1 with CSC. There will be no review of this K1. It’s expired, dead, finished. Another option, if he can get the time off, he can go the marriage route & file an I-130. But the disclosure of information about this K1 application & his ex-wife’s problems is absolutely necessary CONCLUSIONS: Chief has signed off on petition return. No turning case around this time at the consulate. P’s ex-wife is incarcerated. She began her incarceration in February, 1999. She could possibly be released in 2013. If P has a criminal history, this needs to be disclosed in the new petition package. The conoff focused on the period from 2006. I’m not sure what he was referring to. Apparently P moved from Kansas or Missouri to Indiana. P submitted a very good time line & his application is pretty well-prepared also. I think problems arose because of he did not disclose his ex-wife’s problems. I don’t know if P has any criminal history. If so, it needs to be disclosed also in the new application. B speaks excellent English. She was extremely well-prepared for the interviewer’s questions. The only incorrect answer involved the move in 2006. The couple presented a good case. The consulate was looking at something else. The evidence was not even considered. B is unclear about his occupation. She says he inspects wood for barrels. But the explanation doesn’t make a lot of sense. Apparently, he is a QC inspector for a company that constructs wooden barrels. They met on line at saigondarlings.com on 23 May, 2008. P has made 3 trips as of late October, 2009. (1st trip 18 Dec 2008 – 17 days, 2nd trip – 1 week, 2 August, 2009, 8 October 2009- 20 days.) P proposed second day after his arrival on 1st trip. B has family in the US, 2 cousins in California and an aunt in Kansas City. Despite the proximity, P had never met B’s aunt in KC. Consulate may not believe that they actually met on-line. As of late October, 2009, P has still never met her aunt. Consulate may also think B would not want to marry a man who has such a dangerous ex-wife. P raises boxers in his kennel. Jerome, I feel your pain. What happened to you and Binh is what I was affraid of happening to us. I don't mean to poor salt in your wounds but I want to point out so others may learn. From what I understand you visited Binh In Vietnam 2 times that were not in the case record after the interview. For those reading this, you or your fiance/wife may introduce more evidence/information at anytime through certified mail or in person at the embassy between 1 and 2 everyday or USA petitioners only at 4 to 5pm Tuesday and Wednesday. IF you submit more Information the Consulate must review it and that can extend your time in AP. This can be anything you think is relavent to your case. Chat Logs, Pictures, An explanation letter, Airline tickets, Copy of passport, updated timeline.... If they tell you they don't need it. Tell them you insist it goes into the file for review. Re- apply for K1. You are more educated now and should be able to overcome the obsticles. If you go CR1 or K3 and fail it will take a very long time to get it back to VN for a second chance. You could go ahead with the marraige requirements and planning if you want while a new K1 application is going through. Good luck, Fred Don't worry Fred, it might be salt in my wounds, but people do need to read this, and it is true, very true. If you have filed any petition, and go back for a visit, do not go to the consulate and just ask about your case. Submit evidence, even if it is just a copy of your passport with the new visa stamp on it, i did not want to risk more AP. I stand by my decision, with no regrets. With the current state of the American economy and with me going in for surgery this might have actually been a blessing. We will do a rebuttal when it gets back to the USA, this is just to clear our names from any fraud labeling, we are not going to refile, I am making plans after surgery and recovery to move to Vietnam. My ultimate goal, has and always will be to be with Binh, not just to get Binh to America. I really don't care any more, i would like for her to be able to visit my mother and family, but most importantly I want to be with her. Good luck to all and god bless you as well. Jerome	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-30 05:19:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (lindal24 @ Oct 29 2009, 11:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Jerome - is your list of the reasons for denial from the Consulate or from Marc Ellis? If it is from the CO, how were you able to get a response back so quickly? The reason I ask is so that maybe Huong and Phung could do the same thing so they could start working on their rebuttal... QUOTE (jeromebinh @ Oct 29 2009, 05:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Here are the reasons for our denial. Mark Ellis thinks it has something to do with my end and my ex wife history with her being in prison for such a serious crime. he also said our time line was great and the mock interview that he had with binh went well. She was slightly confusing when she talks about my job, but my job is hard to explain to anyone. This is also the feed back from Mark Ellis about my case, if anyone has questions about anything here, pm me, and i can give you answers, or if you need help i will share our experiences with you. supposedly we had 5 days worth of photos showing we were together.----we had hundreds of photos at the interview and hundreds more now communication not creditable, our phone records show only short calls, 1 to 3 minutes in length.------we only use phone when INTERNET is down, and to save money we usually simply keep it short and just wait to the next day to chat I only visited her once and has not been there since December.----------- 3 provable trips total now we submitted only evidence of a small inconsequential engagement ceremony no American guests.-------there were close to 100 guests, and in photos there were white people, CO never asked her if any of my family came there or not, and never commented on the white people in the photo's I proposed in a short time of meeting her and had a engagement ceremony shortly after.-----in time line we mentioned that we talked about marriage, but wanted to meet in person to make sure, when I went first time we knew then we were going to be engaged, so we started to plan for Dam Hoi binh said 3 relatives living in Texas, California, and Ohio, then she submitted evidence of California and Kansas and supposedly public records show that I live in Kansas-----Old public records show I live in Kansas, never Kansas City where her aunt lives, the relative in Texas would never send any thing to her to show he lived there so we left that one out unable to prove facts about our wedding, she did not know about estimated costs, or guests---------I did not even know this answer as we only had the date figured out, I have no idea who would come because they say not to plan anything until we have the visa. they investigated where I live and it shows that I do not live where I live. my passport records from 2007 show I live in Salem Indiana, not campbellsburg, which I did live in Salem when I filed for my passport, They also say that I have a record showing that I lived at my work address, this was because when they sent my passport back someone had to sign for it and I was working 5 days per week so I had them send it to work so I could sign for it. RECOMMENDATIONS: Free background check on petitioner. The consulate is obviously looking at something on his end. The background check might show us something. File new K-1 with IMBRA waiver request & full explanation of P’s ex-wife’s incarceration, criminal & marital history. This a K-1 with CSC. There will be no review of this K1. It’s expired, dead, finished. Another option, if he can get the time off, he can go the marriage route & file an I-130. But the disclosure of information about this K1 application & his ex-wife’s problems is absolutely necessary CONCLUSIONS: Chief has signed off on petition return. No turning case around this time at the consulate. P’s ex-wife is incarcerated. She began her incarceration in February, 1999. She could possibly be released in 2013. If P has a criminal history, this needs to be disclosed in the new petition package. The conoff focused on the period from 2006. I’m not sure what he was referring to. Apparently P moved from Kansas or Missouri to Indiana. P submitted a very good time line & his application is pretty well-prepared also. I think problems arose because of he did not disclose his ex-wife’s problems. I don’t know if P has any criminal history. If so, it needs to be disclosed also in the new application. B speaks excellent English. She was extremely well-prepared for the interviewer’s questions. The only incorrect answer involved the move in 2006. The couple presented a good case. The consulate was looking at something else. The evidence was not even considered. B is unclear about his occupation. She says he inspects wood for barrels. But the explanation doesn’t make a lot of sense. Apparently, he is a QC inspector for a company that constructs wooden barrels. They met on line at saigondarlings.com on 23 May, 2008. P has made 3 trips as of late October, 2009. (1st trip 18 Dec 2008 – 17 days, 2nd trip – 1 week, 2 August, 2009, 8 October 2009- 20 days.) P proposed second day after his arrival on 1st trip. B has family in the US, 2 cousins in California and an aunt in Kansas City. Despite the proximity, P had never met B’s aunt in KC. Consulate may not believe that they actually met on-line. As of late October, 2009, P has still never met her aunt. Consulate may also think B would not want to marry a man who has such a dangerous ex-wife. P raises boxers in his kennel. It was both, Binh had a interview with Mark and those were comments on what he made, and his recomendations, but what I said for denial was from the consulate. They will mail that denial paper to her so they should have theirs any day	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-29 13:42:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	Here are the reasons for our denial. Mark Ellis thinks it has something to do with my end and my ex wife history with her being in prison for such a serious crime. he also said our time line was great and the mock interview that he had with binh went well. She was slightly confusing when she talks about my job, but my job is hard to explain to anyone. This is also the feed back from Mark Ellis about my case, if anyone has questions about anything here, pm me, and i can give you answers, or if you need help i will share our experiences with you. supposedly we had 5 days worth of photos showing we were together.----we had hundreds of photos at the interview and hundreds more now communication not creditable, our phone records show only short calls, 1 to 3 minutes in length.------we only use phone when INTERNET is down, and to save money we usually simply keep it short and just wait to the next day to chat I only visited her once and has not been there since December.----------- 3 provable trips total now we submitted only evidence of a small inconsequential engagement ceremony no American guests.-------there were close to 100 guests, and in photos there were white people, CO never asked her if any of my family came there or not, and never commented on the white people in the photo's I proposed in a short time of meeting her and had a engagement ceremony shortly after.-----in time line we mentioned that we talked about marriage, but wanted to meet in person to make sure, when I went first time we knew then we were going to be engaged, so we started to plan for Dam Hoi binh said 3 relatives living in Texas, California, and Ohio, then she submitted evidence of California and Kansas and supposedly public records show that I live in Kansas-----Old public records show I live in Kansas, never Kansas City where her aunt lives, the relative in Texas would never send any thing to her to show he lived there so we left that one out unable to prove facts about our wedding, she did not know about estimated costs, or guests---------I did not even know this answer as we only had the date figured out, I have no idea who would come because they say not to plan anything until we have the visa. they investigated where I live and it shows that I do not live where I live. my passport records from 2007 show I live in Salem Indiana, not campbellsburg, which I did live in Salem when I filed for my passport, They also say that I have a record showing that I lived at my work address, this was because when they sent my passport back someone had to sign for it and I was working 5 days per week so I had them send it to work so I could sign for it. RECOMMENDATIONS: Free background check on petitioner. The consulate is obviously looking at something on his end. The background check might show us something. File new K-1 with IMBRA waiver request & full explanation of P’s ex-wife’s incarceration, criminal & marital history. This a K-1 with CSC. There will be no review of this K1. It’s expired, dead, finished. Another option, if he can get the time off, he can go the marriage route & file an I-130. But the disclosure of information about this K1 application & his ex-wife’s problems is absolutely necessary CONCLUSIONS: Chief has signed off on petition return. No turning case around this time at the consulate. P’s ex-wife is incarcerated. She began her incarceration in February, 1999. She could possibly be released in 2013. If P has a criminal history, this needs to be disclosed in the new petition package. The conoff focused on the period from 2006. I’m not sure what he was referring to. Apparently P moved from Kansas or Missouri to Indiana. P submitted a very good time line & his application is pretty well-prepared also. I think problems arose because of he did not disclose his ex-wife’s problems. I don’t know if P has any criminal history. If so, it needs to be disclosed also in the new application. B speaks excellent English. She was extremely well-prepared for the interviewer’s questions. The only incorrect answer involved the move in 2006. The couple presented a good case. The consulate was looking at something else. The evidence was not even considered. B is unclear about his occupation. She says he inspects wood for barrels. But the explanation doesn’t make a lot of sense. Apparently, he is a QC inspector for a company that constructs wooden barrels. They met on line at saigondarlings.com on 23 May, 2008. P has made 3 trips as of late October, 2009. (1st trip 18 Dec 2008 – 17 days, 2nd trip – 1 week, 2 August, 2009, 8 October 2009- 20 days.) P proposed second day after his arrival on 1st trip. B has family in the US, 2 cousins in California and an aunt in Kansas City. Despite the proximity, P had never met B’s aunt in KC. Consulate may not believe that they actually met on-line. As of late October, 2009, P has still never met her aunt. Consulate may also think B would not want to marry a man who has such a dangerous ex-wife. P raises boxers in his kennel.	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-29 05:58:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (toantien @ Oct 28 2009, 01:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> after hearing about these denials i'm really scared. I just bought tickets to vietnam. I'm leaving next week. I'm goiing in at every possibilities to the consulate. Really sad to hear huong and phung and jeromebinh. Keep your heads up and keep on going. Thanks and good luck to you. I would not only go there but submit evidence. I think if I had submitted evidence instead of just going there we might have been better off, I did not want to rick getting put back another 90 days if I resubmitted more evidence, so for my error, I now have to do a rebuttal, or move on with our plans in case of a denial. Honestly, I had planned on moving to vietnam, this just makes this decision easier to do. Good luck, once we find out the reasons why they denied, I will post it. I am sure it has to do with me only having one trip, and the fact that they never looked at our chat logs, so I think it will be no proof of on ongoing relationship, then mention that we do not talk on the phone but maybe once a week, even though we chat for at least 1 or more hours every day, and that I only made one trip. I feel a rebuttal should be easy if this is the reasons for denial, they might also throw in that we did not have wedding plans in stone, in which case I can point to our letter that we both signed stating we were getting married within the 90 days and then also add their own words for people to make NO plans until after they receive the visa. i did get a release form today for my senator so they can also make a inquiry which he said he would gladly do for me, so this also helps keep our hopes up, but in any case we know we will be together even if this means selling the house and moving, after surgery we will figure out what we are going to do for sure refile for k1, do a rebuttal, or just wait until we sell the house and I move back and do a cr1. Good luck Toantien. Jerome	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-28 18:38:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	Take us off the list as well, They waited until I had left to tell us that we got denied. I think they knew we had proof of the reasons they denied us so they waited until I was gone so I could not go in and complain while it was still at HCMC. Binh goes to see Mark at 9:30 tomorrow. See if he thinks we need to do something now or wait. Huong, sorry to hear about your denial as will and also sorry to hear about LY and at the same time congrats on the upcoming baby. Jerome	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-28 07:14:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (ScottThuy @ Oct 25 2009, 10:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (jeromebinh @ Oct 25 2009, 09:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Scott, I hope you don't mind, I asked to get this topic pinned and they did it. I just felt it was a important topic that needed to stay close to the top. Jerome and Binh There have already been 3 requests to pin it I guess that my request reached the feet of the right person then. Kat said she would talk to Captain Ewok about it and then the next day it was pinned. No news on our case yet either. We got the automated response, and we are waiting on the other one. I figured we would get it after I get on the plane in the morning, just hope within the next 2 weeks we will hear something. To our knowledge they have not called anyone, or at least if they did we have not heard about it. I am sure you will get your dream to come true, just hang in there!! Jerome and Binh	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-26 01:15:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (ScottThuy @ Oct 24 2009, 09:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> VJ Members currently in AP at HCMC: Vi&Art__________________8/5/2009 K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline JeromeBinh______________8/20/2009 K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Ex-wife's living situation, Timeline, List of Beneficiary Relatives in the US ToanTien________________8/20/2009 CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Ly Trinh _________________8/21/2009 CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Timeline (no decision as of 10/22) Huong and Phung _________9/8/2009 CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Frank And Duyen (effjaye)___10/20/2009 CR1 Visa - First Blue RFE: Timeline VJ Members who made it out of AP & results: Ituan __________________8/10/2009 - 09/15/2009 - 36 days in AP - Denied K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Lindal24 ________________7/8/2009 - 10/7/2009 - 91 days in AP - APPROVED CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & List of Beneficiary Relatives in the US FrednDaoHoney__________1/17/2009 - 10/15/2009 - 271 days in AP - APPROVED JohnCali9 _______________8/6/2009 - 10/21/2009 - 76 days in AP - APPROVED K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Ex-wife's living situation, Timeline MichaelAndKha___________8/15/2009 - 10/21/2009 - 67 days in AP - Denied K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Timeline Andy (not a VJ member)____8/17/2009 - 10/23/2009 - 67 days in AP - Denied K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Please add yourself if you are currently in Administrative Processing "AP" (2nd blue slip). LindaL24 has a copy of the Blue AP slip, Pink Approval Slip, and US Visa issued by HCMC Consulate under "My Photos" Scott, I hope you don't mind, I asked to get this topic pinned and they did it. I just felt it was a important topic that needed to stay close to the top. Jerome and Binh	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-25 20:28:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (ScottThuy @ Oct 24 2009, 09:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> VJ Members currently in AP at HCMC: Vi&Art__________________8/5/2009 K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline JeromeBinh______________8/20/2009 K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Ex-wife's living situation, Timeline, List of Beneficiary Relatives in the US ToanTien________________8/20/2009 CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Ly Trinh _________________8/21/2009 CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Timeline (no decision as of 10/22) Huong and Phung _________9/8/2009 CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Frank And Duyen (effjaye)___10/20/2009 CR1 Visa - First Blue RFE: Timeline VJ Members who made it out of AP & results: Ituan __________________8/10/2009 - 09/15/2009 - 36 days in AP - Denied K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Lindal24 ________________7/8/2009 - 10/7/2009 - 91 days in AP - APPROVED CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & List of Beneficiary Relatives in the US FrednDaoHoney__________1/17/2009 - 10/15/2009 - 271 days in AP - APPROVED JohnCali9 _______________8/6/2009 - 10/21/2009 - 76 days in AP - APPROVED K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Ex-wife's living situation, Timeline MichaelAndKha___________8/15/2009 - 10/21/2009 - 67 days in AP - Denied K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Timeline Andy (not a VJ member)____8/17/2009 - 10/23/2009 - 67 days in AP - Denied K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Please add yourself if you are currently in Administrative Processing "AP" (2nd blue slip). LindaL24 has a copy of the Blue AP slip, Pink Approval Slip, and US Visa issued by HCMC Consulate under "My Photos"	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-25 04:16:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	VJ Members currently in AP at HCMC: Vi&Art__________________8/5/2009 K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline JeromeBinh______________8/20/2009 K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Ex-wife's living situation, Timeline, List of Beneficiary Relatives in the US ToanTien________________8/20/2009 CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Ly Trinh _________________8/21/2009 CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Timeline (no decision as of 10/22) Huong and Phung _________9/8/2009 CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Frank And Duyen (effjaye)___10/20/2009 CR1 Visa - First Blue RFE: Timeline VJ Members who made it out of AP & results: Ituan __________________8/10/2009 - 09/15/2009 - 36 days in AP - Denied K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Lindal24 ________________7/8/2009 - 10/7/2009 - 91 days in AP - APPROVED CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & List of Beneficiary Relatives in the US FrednDaoHoney__________1/17/2009 - 10/15/2009 - 271 days in AP - APPROVED JohnCali9 _______________8/6/2009 - 10/21/2009 - 76 days in AP - APPROVED K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Ex-wife's living situation, Timeline MichaelAndKha___________8/15/2009 - 10/21/2009 - 67 days in AP - Denied K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Timeline Andy (not a VJ member)____8/17/2009 - 10/23/2009 - 67 days in AP - Denied K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Please add yourself if you are currently in Administrative Processing "AP" (2nd blue slip).	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-25 03:16:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	/quote] Hi Fred I just buy ticket for my wife $650 to LA, Ca thx johno [/quote] VJ Members currently in AP at HCMC: Vi&Art__________________8/5/2009 K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline JeromeBinh______________8/20/2009 K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Ex-wife's living situation, Timeline, List of Beneficiary Relatives in the US ToanTien________________8/20/2009 CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Ly Trinh _________________8/21/2009 CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Timeline (no decision as of 10/22) Huong and Phung _________9/8/2009 CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Effjaye___________________10/20/2009 CR1 Visa - First Blue RFE: Timeline VJ Members who made it out of AP & results: Ituan __________________8/10/2009 - 09/15/2009 - 36 days in AP - Denied K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Lindal24 ________________7/8/2009 - 10/7/2009 - 91 days in AP - APPROVED CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & List of Beneficiary Relatives in the US FrednDaoHoney__________1/17/2009 - 10/15/2009 - 271 days in AP - APPROVED JohnCali9 _______________8/6/2009 - 10/21/2009 - 76 days in AP - APPROVED K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Ex-wife's living situation, Timeline MichaelAndKha___________8/15/2009 - 10/21/2009 - 67 days in AP - Denied K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Timeline Andy ______________)____8/17/2009 - 10/23/2009 - 67 days in AP - Denied K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Good to hear you are on your way to getting her with you John, I bet you are so excited you can't sit still!!! Congrats once again! Jerome and Binh	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-23 18:51:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	VJ Members currently in AP at HCMC: * Vi&Art ____________8/5/2009 K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline * JeromeBinh________8/20/2009 K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Ex-wife's living situation, Timeline, List of Beneficiary Relatives in US * ToanTien__________8/20/2009 CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline * Ly Trinh ___________8/21/2009 CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Timeline * Huong and Phung ___9/8/2009 CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline VJ Members who made it out of AP & results: * Ituan ____________8/10/2009 - 09/15/2009 - 36 days in AP - Denied K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline * Lindal24 __________7/8/2009 - 10/7/2009 - 91 days in AP - APPROVED CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline * FrednDaoHoney____1/17/2009 - 10/15/2009 - 271 days in AP - APPROVED * JohnCali9 _________8/6/2009 - 10/21/2009 - 76 days in AP - APPROVED kicking.gif kicking.gifkicking.gif K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Ex-wife's living situation, Timeline * MichaelAndKha_____8/15/2009 - 10/21/2009 - 67 days in AP - Denied crying.gif K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Timeline Thanks for info, I did not notice that one. Jerpome	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-21 02:26:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	Please lets remain focused on what this topic is about. Cars are nice, but if we want to talk about them can we make a off topic post about vjer's rides I will have much to add to a topic like that in nature. VJ Members currently in AP at HCMC: Vi&Art _____________________8/5/2009 K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline MichaelAndKha______________8/15/2009 K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Timeline JeromeBinh_________________8/20/2009 K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Ex-wife's living situation, Timeline, List of Beneficiary Relatives in US ToanTien___________________8/20/2009 CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Ly Trinh ___________________8/21/2009 CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Timeline Huong and Phung ___________9/8/2009 CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline VJ Members who made it out of AP & results: Ituan _____________________8/10/2009 - 09/15/2009 - 36 days in AP - Denied K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Lindal24 ___________________7/8/2009 - 10/7/2009 - 91 days in AP - APPROVED CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline FrednDaoHoney_____________1/17/2009 - 10/15/2009 - 271 days in AP - APPROVED JohnCali9 __________________8/6/2009 - 10/21/2009 - 76 days in AP - APPROVED K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Ex-wife's living situation, Timeline Please if you have any updates post them here.	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-21 02:14:00
Vietnam	What is the safest way to send a package to Vietnam?	I wanted to send my wife some paperwork and documentation. and her visa in preparation for her interview, i don't mind paying a bit more for peace of mind , so long as I can get it to her safely. Any suggestions? I do not know if it has been said or not, but if it is only paperwork, or things that are flat and the originals are not needed, scan and email it. If it is just interview prep things scan and send, if they require the original with a signature, then use DHL. DHL is by far the best (biggest) shipper in Vietnam. UPS and FED EX are here, but not as big as DHL. IF it requires a signature or an original and you are making the original, IE bank statement or intent letter, make two when possible, this is just incase they do lose the original you already have a second one waiting. Even DHL can have a mistake or have a package ruined. Other ways are finding out who is headed to Vietnam and send the paperwork with them and give them your partners number so that she can meet up and collect. I personally would try this method before sending with DHL. Hope this helps Jerome	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2011-06-16 03:51:00
Vietnam	Front loading Debate	I think you're doin' it wrong. In order for your wish to come true you don't just repeat it several times. You have to wear the ruby slippers and click your heels. When they ask about wedding plans, they aren't asking for dates and copies of your embossed invitations. They just want some evidence that you've actually discussed it, and have a reasonable idea what you're going to do. They advise you not to make any concrete plans, but they don't forbid you from discussing it. I think what the CO is looking for, more than anything else, is a beneficiary who is completely stumped by the question. Their thinking, which is admittedly somewhat oblique, is that a sincere couple are planning their future life together, and the wedding would be a major milestone they would have given some thought to, while a fraudster would be thinking primarily about the immigration process, and not giving much thought to minor details like getting married. This is about bureaucracy, and not political systems. They probably pay some eggheads to think up these questions. When it becomes obvious that the majority of applicants have caught on, then they throw some new questions into the mix to stir things up. The key to getting what you want from a bureaucracy is to give them precisely what they want. They don't know how to deal with non-conformity. BTW, communism runs the gamut from oligarchy to dictatorship. Our system of government is run by a group of people based on a legal framework (a republic), and those people are elected by majority vote (a democracy), so the US is a democratic republic. Bureaucracy is universal to all modern forms of government. Jim, at our interview when asked about our wedding plans, Binh had the state, the date, and the reason for it not being where I currently lived because Missouri was closer to my friends and family, and this was still a reason for our denial, they want something more than just basic plans, and others have had the same response with similar answers, one person said his fiancee knew the name of the church and the pastor, because they had discussed it in such detail, and it was on their denial as well. BTW not ALL of our officials are elected by majority, the main "Elected official (the President)" is not truly elected by the people at all, but in fact a governing body (electorial college) chooses him, it is supposed to be based on our vote, but in states like California, New York, and Florida they get the majority of the vote for the president because they have more citizens than any other state, so in theory, if only 1 person voted in each of those states, andif every person in Montana voted those 3 people would have more effect on the outcome of the President than all the people in Montana combined, so to me that is NOT an elected official but that is of course off topic, but I did want to throw in my two cents worth, and another fun fact is that arguably one of our greatest Presidents ever actually lost the popular vote and still won the election and not not the younger Bush, do you know who he was? Jerome	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2010-06-19 19:29:00
Vietnam	Front loading Debate	Okay, I guess this should be the new question what do people call front loading. To me frontloading is not adding anything that the petition requires, meaning if you added chat logs, and emails, many photos, or how you met, because in the petition that is what’s required. For me frontloading means going into detail on what people feel are red flags. Does anyone have a list of what they consider red flags? From our denial, I think these would be considered red flags Family members living in the same state where petitioner lives Small or no engagement ceremony Only one trip (which was a lie we had 3) No concrete wedding plans once she got to America (even though they say make no plans until after you get the visa) From others Divorce close to new marriage/engagement Divorce with ex-spouse in prison Living with family members of the beneficiary These are the only ones that come to mind, please add to the list if you can think of more	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2010-06-15 21:42:00
Vietnam	Front loading Debate	I want to start this topic because of all the recent and not so recent debate over front loading. So please anyone that has gone through an interview and if you have front loaded any red flags that you thought were red flags, please comment on this thread. For those that did front load 1) What did you front load? 2) Did you get asked about any red flags you front loaded 3) Did you get a visa after the interview 4) Did you get a blue slip at the interview 5) If you got a blue slip at the interview did it ask for proof of the red flag you frontloaded Questions for people that did not front load but did have evidence at the interview addressing what was thought of as a red flag 1) What did you feel were your red flags 2) Were you asked about your presumed red flags at the interview 3) Did the CO look at your evidence for the red flags 4) If the CO refused to look at your evidence were you given a blue slip requesting what you already had at the interview 5) After the interview if you were asked about the red flags and the CO looked at your evidence were you given a pink 6) If you were not asked about any red flags, and then still given a blue were the requests for evidence what you thought of as red flags, and did you have that evidence with you I will be the first to add our experience with this post. I did not front load. We were worried about my divorce with my wife being in prison so we had the evidence at the interview. We were asked by the CO about my ex wife, and where she lived, he refused to look at our proof where she was living (prison documents) The other red flag was my previous K1 petition filed almost two years prior, this never came up at the interview, and was not on our blue slip Over all outcome of our case was denial, not based on any of our supposed red flags Edited by jeromebinh, 15 June 2010 - 02:38 AM.	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2010-06-15 02:35:00
Vietnam	afer K1 visa is issued, how long till benefiary has until he/she has to travel to the US	if you got the medical 2 months prior it doesnt mean that the visa will only be good for 4 months.. but there is the chance... its all on a case by case basis... It is based on your medical and how long before your medical becomes expired. There is no case by case basis when it comes to landing in america you must have a valid medical to arrive on US soil period. The visa expiry might not be to the day that your medical expires but it will be close enough that you will land in the United States while your medical is still valid, you might have 5 months on your medical and only get 4 months before your visa expires but you will never have 5 months on your medical and get 6 months or 8 or 10 months before your visa will expire, things can change in a person's medical that would effect a person from coming to the United States, pregnancy, TB just to name a few.	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2011-07-05 01:51:00
Vietnam	afer K1 visa is issued, how long till benefiary has until he/she has to travel to the US	Aaah, now it makes sense. We were advised to wait until the last minute before the interview to do the medical, and now I understand why. It is based on the medical because the medical is only good for 6 months. If you do the medical 2 months before your interview, your entry will only be valid for 4 months. Does this track with other's experience? It does depend on how much time you have left on your medical since it is only valid for 6 months. If your medical was done 2 days prior to your interview then you would have 6 months, if it was done 5 months prior then you would only have one month	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2011-07-04 01:49:00
Vietnam	Odd Question on Residency	Just notify them, you can do this on the phone and they will send you a letter in the mail, it isnt very hard, and as others have said you have every right to live your life, and if you are buying a house it seems that you are secure and stable, things that they actually want to see	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2011-07-13 19:45:00
Vietnam	Urgent Help Needed!	Jim is right. You HAVE to get the mental check-up in Vietnam. I got mine done at the HCM mental health hospital (not sure of its exact name, but located on the East-West highway). You'll need some li xi/coffee money to expedite your file. Also, originally I was under the impression that you have to get Affidavit of Single Status from your county/state office of records. However, you can go to US Consulate in HCM and pay $50 to get it done there. Much quicker, took us maybe total of 1 hour to do so. I stated you have to get it done in HCMC, the hospital name is Chao Ray hospital, you also still must have the state record search as well as the affadavit from the US consulate. Jim, I can't seem to find the link, it was in a post that I replied to so it does not show up in my history, but if they really want the info they can do a little searching, something like "marriage requirements in Vietnam Jeromebinh" and I am sure it will come up or at least get the OP to a closer starting point. Jerome	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2011-08-22 23:12:00
Vietnam	Urgent Help Needed!	Listen to me once again you MUST do the mental test here. You MUST get BOTH proof of no recorded marriages from your state of residence for the past couple of years, AND an affidavit of single status. THEY ARE NOT THE SAME PERIOD....... One is from someone on the state level clearly stating that there is no record of any marriages in THAT state, this person is not you, remember that point. The affidavit of single status is a SWORN statement from YOU that says you are single. Have you ever heard of people going to Vegas from Maine or California, Kansas, Montana, or Indiana and getting married???? The affidavit of single status is a sworn statement stating that you are not married, the marriage documents only states in your state of residence that there is no record. As I said earlier, look in previous posts and there are more details, also you did not answer my question on how long you are going to be in Vietnam to get all this done. You really need to do research, Vietnam is not like the US. I live here, I know that, I have done the wedding here, and I know that it was NOT easy. We did all of our own things then we hired a service to look and make sure if what we had was correct, when he found some of the documents were not correct we hired him at a discount since we had many things already done, and it still took just over 30 days, and there are parts that the foreigner must be present for, one the mental test, two the marriage interview, three the signing date, if you do it on your own you can expect at least a 30 day wait, but from many of the friends I have it is closer to 45 days if you do it on your own. I understand people don't like paying for a service, but these people give coffee money to move your name towards the top of the list, they have tons of experience getting things done so there is less likely of any chance that something is wrong. It is not only hard for the foreigner, but depending on your soon to be wife they might have to locate or go to specific places for her documents, and the service helps this out as well. Read the previous posts the other threads and you will soon learn that it CAN be done on your own, but it IS harder. Jerome and Binh	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2011-08-21 22:01:00
Vietnam	Urgent Help Needed!	There have been posts on here before, I even posted the steps, just read through the posts it will help. How long will you be in Vietnam? Even if you don't want to use a service it makes it quicker. You MUST sign and do an interview in person. This usually takes about 25 days for the interview, then another 2 weeks to actually go and sign then get the papers. We used a service and it still took 30 days from start to finish, another friend just got married and didnt use a service and it took him 2 months. You will need to do the mental test here at Chao Ray, they will want coffee money, it was 200,000 when we were there. The affidavit of single status is usually good for 6 months, but I have heard of many people being made to get it done here even though they had it done in the US already. Vietnamese can be pretty picky if they want to be. Also there was a guy from the UK who was denied the wedding papers, his wife was from the country side and they had to go where she was from to do it, so there are risks by doing it yourself, time and many other things. Honestly it can be done by yourself, send your fiancee to the justice department and have her get the wedding information pack, you can have her fill out most of it without you being here, you will need to also have your state do a check and issue some sort of notary signed statement showing there are no marriage records of you for the past few years before you come. All of these documents that you do will need to be translated if they are in english, just be prepared for a long drawn out process if you do it yourself. Jerome and Binh	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2011-08-20 09:51:00
Vietnam	Anyone who got PINK use Van Phong Dich Vu in HCMC?	QUOTE (Dai_VN @ Jun 1 2009, 09:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> There are plenty of people who didn't use it and still got pink. I chose to use one because I had everything come up so quick because of my request for expedite went though and they only gave me 3 weeks from the time they gave me the interview letter to the time of the interview and I didn't feel comfortable doing everything myself like the medical exam within the 3 weeks so I went ahead and hired a place. Everything came up so fast whenever we got the interview letter that I am sort of glad we used them. But I know for a fact a bunch of people on here got pink with just doing everything themselves without assistants from Van Phong Dich Vu. I can name a handful of these people. Everycase is different though even though I got my pink already I am glad used one because it's kinda better to have piece of mind to do it. The place only charged me like $30 USD so it was cheap and I didn't mind. THANK YOU. CAN YOU GIVE US THE ADDRESS OF THE PLACE OR TELEPHONE NUBERSTO CONSIDER PLEASE?	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-06-02 09:10:00
Vietnam	Anyone who got PINK use Van Phong Dich Vu in HCMC?	Anybody who did not use Van Phong Dich Vu (Offices/Services help to prepare for K1 documents?) and still got PINK?	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-06-01 09:05:00