Forum	Title	Content	Member	Sex	Country	Date/Time
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (ScottThuy @ Oct 3 2009, 11:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> A tennis team from Japan was going through security the same time I was and one of the kids had 2 jars of jelly in his carryon sportpak.. one would have thought it was a pound of plastic explosives... The poor kid... he spoke no english and the jelly looked so good.... they threw it all away and scared the ####### out of him... so make sure its all in checked bags.. Yeah, I have one bag that is devoted to the jelly and pickles, and I have pillows all around them with the other soft things on top, the tortillas, and jerky and candy as well, give it as much of a fighting chance as possible to make it there in one piece. I had it in a smaller bag and that bag inside my big bag, but when I lifted it it was pretty heavy so I repacked it all again and am planning on checking 2 bags then carrying on only my computer. I was going to bring jelly last trip but did not want to check a bag, this time I don't feel like running in the airports dragging baggage.	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-03 14:37:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (Huong and Phung @ Oct 2 2009, 09:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Good luck man and doesn't matter how bad things are, you're that much closer to your SO now. Enjoy it and have fun for us all waiting here in the States. Thanks! I wish for all of us that there was a real pattern, but the more I think about it I do not think there really is. To bad they wont just clear out all the AP at once to get caught up with all approvals! Tell your wife to expect a call on Friday, I get in about Midnight on Thursday/Friday morning. I think Customs is going to ####### a brick when they see all the things I am bringing! I got jars of home made jelly, salsa, pickles, tortillas, beef jerky, Budweiser, candy, and cans of things you cant find there or if you do it cost like $5 a can, got chicken broth and cream of mushroom soup. I am going to make hotpot for her family, my way, so I need canned chicken broth. The only good thing about what I am bringing, I have sent it all over the mail, at least all but the beer and pickles. The look on his face when he opens a bag full of jars of jelly and pickles, I bet it will be a priceless moment! Jerome	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-03 07:36:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (lindal24 @ Oct 2 2009, 10:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (luckytxn @ Oct 2 2009, 09:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Don't think the engagement was too short as mine was about 3 months after we first started to chat. The marriage was pretty short though thereafter but have seen others here who had a short one also and got a pink. I think it stems from my mom and dad not travelling back with me when I got married. They asked him why my parents didn't come back for my wedding. Well, my parents both work and they had already taken 6 weeks off from work only 5 months prior and my mom was sick so she didn't want to risk it. QUOTE (Hien @ Oct 2 2009, 08:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Linda, I think that your reason of "talking on Yahoo more than on the phone" is not correct. We knew each other by website and only email conversation within 2 years, I didn't have phone records for the first time we contact each other and I still got pink. The main reason is your time to get engagement, that is too short from the first meeting to the engagement decision time. That is Jerome & Binh...but I also don't think that's an issue either. I am just thinking of potential red flags...I wouldn't know if it was or not though... I do not think it had anything to do with our yahoo chatting or anything else, I feel our ap was because of the answers my Fiancée gave. It is hard for some people to believe that a woman is in prison and then when she gave the reason it was even harder to stomacher. I think there is no real pattern to follow, and this forum just keeps us all guessing, and I think the Co's are loving every minute of it when they read all the posts. If something does not feel right they give you AP. Point blank, Jim addressed what he thought was red flags, he may or may not get put in AP I just think it will have to do with the answers at the interview more than anything we put in for evidence. I think they asked Binh one maybe 2 questions about my last petition if that, and as I have said countless times she saw pink, up until the the time the CO asked about my ex wife, and when Binh answered shortly after he left and came back with blue. If it was anything else he would have stopped asking questions long before and just asked for more evidence then and gave her a blue. So please people, I really think you are trying to analyze this subject way to much. Each case is different, what one CO thinks is different from another. They give us the standard requests with blue slips for a reason, and I think this reason is to not let us know what they are really thinking. I mean if you truly look at it, most people at the interview have a time line and yet they all ask for it, some even come with proof of relatives because so many people get blue for that as well. SO when you look at all of it it makes sense, no pattern, they just give the same reason time and again because something was said in the interview they did not understand or like. They do give clues with the blue, but nothing to form a real pattern. Front loading may or may not help, I am actually starting to think that if you give all the reasons they give on the blue slips ahead of time instead of blue they will start handing out denials instead. They are just either overwhelmed or don't like what they hear. This is my opinion, but as I said with all the people front loading, and people having the evidence they request at the interview and the Co refusing to look at it??? That is your pattern, I think maybe half of the people that are on the list with AP had most if not all of the requested evidence and they REFUSED to look at it, so that is your first clue, they refused to look at what they wanted to see. POINT BLANK no pattern, they are busy or just did not like what they heard. Good luck with all of your AP, I am getting ready for my trip I hope to talk with the CO and with any luck maybe we can get our visa. Jerome	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-02 20:00:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (Kevin&Loan @ Sep 30 2009, 03:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I have seen enough in this forum to safely say one thing that out of all the red flags you mentioned above, the reddest of all is: RELATIVES IN THE US and second to it is Petitioner is introduced to Beneficiary by uncle, couisn, aunts, friends ... As soon as one of this thing come up during the interview. Count your luck out and expect a blue sheet. They never asked Binh about her relatives in the us the entire time during the interview, they just requested that when they handed the blue out. None of her family even lives in the same state that I live in. I think they just threw that on because they knew we already had the timeline and proof of my ex wife residence. Jerome	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-09-30 18:07:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (ScottThuy @ Sep 27 2009, 08:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (lindal24 @ Sep 27 2009, 07:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> First & Only Husband...First & Only petition... I seriously think my case is just sitting on some empty desk awaiting a CO who probably decided he liked Thailand over Vietnam and decided to leave his post... Or he took the file with him... Jerome, Nobody is panicking.. Actually we are trying to help those that come along after us so they can be better informed... If I was just starting out and saw a bunch of people in AP I would freak out.. But if there was some common thread that did not apply to me, then I would be less stressed... I started this forum to help those that are in AP to get through it easier as a group... and those that are starting to see what they can expect... You have to admit that if you knew why you were in AP it would reduce the stress associated with being in AP... Only worry now is the storm heading to VN... I know my SO's apt floods easily.... I do admit that it helps knowing that you are not the only one going through this, but if you read my post, you also have to admit if we keep posting horror stories people will get freaked out and scared. That has happened with me and I brought that point up also. But if you currently look at most of the post's in this forum there are more horror stories from regular posters than help going on. When I first got on here there was mostly information and help, people asking for advice and what not. Now we have all these posts about waiting and red flags, and very few questions accept for a massage and a tug and the price of a aircon, then throw in the posts of the wife or fiancée that skipped out on their husband or fiancée. This is becoming more of a chat room than of actually helping anyone. I am sure you have to also admit that. To truly help a person you first have to give them hope, not tell them "HCMC?? ohh you are in for a long road, you wont get pink 99% fail for the visa, and most go in AP for 6 months, and this woman did this and that one did that" Lets keep the hope and help. I might sound crabby, but come on man, look at the other forums out there they are not chat rooms like ours is becoming. I think it is time for all of us to wake up and start asking questions for ourselves and helping those that ask for help instead of having 9 page posts. Jerome	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-09-28 04:13:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	BTW, the interval that matters for determining whether an IMBRA filing limitation waiver is required is the time between the previous petition approval and the current petition submission. Sounds like you were within two years, so you would have had no choice - your petition wouldn't have been approved if you didn't ask for the waiver. [/quote] Ummm, I know the rules, that is why I filed the petition, I was just making a statement that I had could have waited just a day or two and not needed to file for the waiver. I just added that part to my post so that other people would know and so that I would not get any backlash with some people thinking I go from one woman dirrectly to the next, or from one denial to the next petition. Jerome	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-09-28 04:04:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (ScottThuy @ Sep 27 2009, 08:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (lindal24 @ Sep 27 2009, 07:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> First & Only Husband...First & Only petition... I seriously think my case is just sitting on some empty desk awaiting a CO who probably decided he liked Thailand over Vietnam and decided to leave his post... Or he took the file with him... Jerome, Nobody is panicking.. Actually we are trying to help those that come along after us so they can be better informed... If I was just starting out and saw a bunch of people in AP I would freak out.. But if there was some common thread that did not apply to me, then I would be less stressed... I started this forum to help those that are in AP to get through it easier as a group... and those that are starting to see what they can expect... You have to admit that if you knew why you were in AP it would reduce the stress associated with being in AP... Only worry now is the storm heading to VN... I know my SO's apt floods easily.... A few months ago, I was the one who read VJ a lot, not my fiance and I was panicked before my interview. Now, when we have been in AP and experienced our interview, we are happy to help people who will have their interviews in HCMC. No storm in HCMC, just rainy season and cloudy days. Binh Le.	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-09-28 02:57:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (ScottThuy @ Sep 27 2009, 03:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (JimVaPhuong @ Sep 27 2009, 03:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Man, Scott's brain just never stops churning over this stuff. BTW, the interval that matters for determining whether an IMBRA filing limitation waiver is required is the time between the previous petition approval and the current petition submission. Sounds like you were within two years, so you would have had no choice - your petition wouldn't have been approved if you didn't ask for the waiver. It actually came up when John and I were OTP the other day and were discussing Tuan's options... He was doing his second filing and I knew John and Jerome were also and John mentioned that there were others in AP that had filed before.. so a light went off... maybe... hmmmm .... This is likely not the case in all of those in AP as I assume Huong has not filed before... But if most in AP have filed previously it could be just an extra fraud detection phase that VN is doing.... If there are a bunch of folks in AP that did not file before this could just be one of the factors they used to put the case in AP. I think each case is different. Binh said that she saw the pink slip on the paperwork with our case. The CO then asked about my ex wife and when she told him that she was in prison his face went from polite to "#######" he then got up and when he came back the pink was gone and she got a blue. I just think that when Binh told him about my ex wife and what she was in prison for he did not believe her at all, and that is why he asked for proof of where my ex wife currently lives. I am sure when he got the proof he crapped a brick because she did exact ally what Binh told him she did. I think there is to much time wasted on links. The only common thread that you can truly link the blues to is that this is HCMC. If you worry about this and that then you go to the interview scared and not confident, or you load your petition with to much ####### that looks like you are trying to prove something and this sends its own red flag. I have seen un detailed time lines accepted and visa's given. I have seen long timelines accepted and visa's given. When I was there and she was inside turning in evidence I watched a woman go in with a small folder while her family waited outside. The medical folder was bigger than her evidence folder. About a hour later she came out and I was sitting by her family and she showed a pink visa and her Fiancée was not even there. I think she had maybe 5 or 6 photos no time line and about 10 pages of things. I asked her if she had the blue before and she said it was her first time there. SO with that said you can compare every case and if you look at it the right way you can see connections, I just try to let people know coming on this site that each case is different so do not get worried about all the horror stories that go on in this forum. Remember guys, I know you are trying to be prepared, but for the people that come on this site when they see some of these stories they get scared, Binh was one of them, she was so worried because I only had one trip in, and then about the time line as well. Ohh the woman said her Fiancée and her had known each other for about 6 months only before his trip, and he was there for only 4 days with no second trips. Jerome	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-09-27 18:08:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	I had one but before HCMC ever got my petition it passed the 2 year point. I did go ahead and file for a waiver prior to sending in for the visa	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-09-27 13:54:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	Binh emaile them this time. I have emaild 2 times, each non automated response was a little different. Binh's email was way different, but basically the same. I am still working on the trip to go there again, and if I do we plan on going to the consulate. If I can talk to the CO, I am going to invite him to dinner, and tell him that if he is worried about what it looks like that he can pay for himself! I just want him to know that I want him to be able to see us together so that he can get more infor on our relationship. If I can swing it I will get him to go to Ralfp's place as well :-D Maybe kill 2 birds with one stone. I doubt it will work, but at least if we get denied we can say we truly tried everything humanly possible to give them the proof they wanted that our relationship was and is real. Jerome	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-09-26 07:33:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (lindal24 @ Sep 24 2009, 10:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Those in AP at HCMC: FrednDaoHoney_____________1/?/2009 Lindal24 ___________________7/8/2009 Vi&Art _____________________8/5/2009 JohnCali9 __________________8/6/2009 Ituan ___________________8/10/2009 - 09/15/2009 36 days in AP Denied MichaelAndKha______________8/15/2009 JeromeBinh_________________8/20/2009 ToanTien___________________8/20/2009 Ly Trinh ___________________8/21/2009 Huong and Phung ___________9/8/2009 Please add yourself if you are currently in Administrative Processing (AP) 2nd blue slip. The initial blue slip (*IF you don't get pink) at the initial interview date IS NOT	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-09-24 17:04:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	bump	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-09-24 08:08:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (Huong and Phung @ Sep 22 2009, 06:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (lindal24 @ Sep 22 2009, 03:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Updated list: Those in AP at HCMC: FrednDaoHoney_____________1/?/2009 Lindal24 ___________________7/8/2009 JohnCali9 ___________________8/6/2009 Ituan ______________________8/10/2009 Denied Vi&Art _____________________8/?/2009 JeromeBinh_________________ 8/20/2009 Ly Trinh ____________________8/21/2009 Huong and Phung ____________9/8/2009 NQT1976____________________Denied SO SAD TO SEE THE WORD START WITH A "D". keeping fingers crossed. I think we are all keeping our fingers crossed. Sorry to hear about the new denial. Jerome	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-09-22 18:07:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (johncali9 @ Sep 19 2009, 11:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (ScottThuy @ Sep 19 2009, 08:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (johncali9 @ Sep 19 2009, 11:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hello all I was called on THURDAY In HCMC ask that,now they procssing who was interview second time isssue ,from Jan to Aug the man say very nice and polite John John, I'm not real clear on what you are saying.. I think you said that you called HCMC on Thursday and asked what is up with the people in AP? The man told you that they were working on files from Jan-Aug? It is amazing that they can have a file in the works for 8 months... there is no valid reason that could justify this situation. They should have a 90 day limit on this... if you cant find a reason to deny in 90 days.. for gods sake give them the visa... its easy for them to make up a reason to deny and send it back to the states. Hi scott I called dos ask about my case they say That ,they were working on Jan to aug who was interview second ,the mean time some case who was Jan ,I thing some thing wrong issue relationship i had ask more and the man say who in this range will know soon the notice issue , Dear scott i spoken with some one in tx he told me that a lot people to deny this time,i was ask him " he say some one call him that, so like brother Tuan tell me today from Fl i was called Co very week John What person did you talk to. I called and got no where they just said they were working in the order they were recieved and that was the info I got. No info on my case and they did not say what month they were processing now or what they were processing, just that they were processing in the order they were recieved. Jerome	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-09-20 08:53:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	Hey I Was there not only me Tuan and Huong also see that ,i was spoken with them i was see the white slip ,those peoles ask me the question 3 day i was there 95% fail not much pink John [/quote] John, not to sound rude, but where do you get your information at? It might be that bad, but I would not want to post bad news, this just hurts the people trying to stay positive. I am also sure that 95% if far from what actually fail. but if you have proof of sources close to the interview process I am sure that we would like to see them. You can ask 10 people on visa journey and maybe 9 fail, but what about the 100 that are not on visa journey when 89 of them passed? I try to never put figures out there unless I can back them up or if I can not but I am sure they are right I say "at least to my knowledge bla bla bla" try to keep the faith not the worries Jerome	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-09-20 08:50:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	Binh said they have not contacted any of her fairly members yet. I do not know if I will make a 3rd trip or not. I was wanting to surprise her brother to be there for his engagement party but I guess it has been put on hold. I am still fighting work over my shoulder they told me not to go to work until my shoulder was 100% healed, but workers comp wont pay because a doctor did not put me off work, and then my work sent fmla papers for me to sign. I refused that and hopefully my lawyer will be able to either get me to file for unemployment since I am fit for work, just working in pain if my boss said not to come in then it is lay off in my eyes. If I can get the unemployment started I still might be able to get there before I have the shoulder surgery. I want to get there to try and talk to the co, maybe it will help because I will have been there 3 times then. But we just have to see what goes on next week with the lawyer and work. Jerome	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-09-19 19:39:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (lindal24 @ Sep 19 2009, 03:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (ScottThuy @ Sep 19 2009, 11:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Has anyone been emailing the consulate weekly to inquire about the current status of the case? John and I talked about this yesterday and it may be advantagous since all communication for a case ends up in the case. At a minimum they will see that you are actively concerned about the case. If I were a co I would not be impressed if there were no inquiries about a case in AP. I know the uscis website says wait 60 days, but why wait. If they have everyone in AP as a ploy to look good at end of fiscal, then we should see some visas after the end of the month. I have been actively emailing. You get an automated response, but then a follow up, personalized response about 5 days after you send the email. I was told by the CO when I went in that it is adventagous since they see and keep track of the emails you send. When I send emails, I usually try to provide more details or go more in depth about my relationship with my husband, but keeping with a theme. For example, the last email I sent had a theme of the # of vacations and the duration of the vacations that my job has allowed me to take. I did wait a full month after the 2nd blue slip date, but I don't think that is a big issue or anything. When I was there this past trip, I made a trip to visit a CO, but since I'm no longer there, I'll continue to send weekly emails until we hear something... I have emailed 2 seperate times. Each time I use the email that they replied to this way it gets longer and longer. I also add a bit about what we have done to each email. I am planning on writing another email tomorrow and then I will wait 1 week from their formal reply to email again. It might bug them, but I feel as you do that they will at least see that I am not going to sit by without a fight or argument. Jerome	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-09-19 14:37:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	I think this is a important topic and feel it should still be easily read so I am just making a post to get it closer to the top	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-09-18 10:36:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (ScottThuy @ Sep 14 2009, 06:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (jeromebinh @ Sep 14 2009, 05:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> We were asked for more info on the first blue. Binh said she had everything in order, and we went through it countless times. They just seemed like they were not interested in any of our evidence. We had the chat log history and the actual chat logs printed out and in each month by its self. They did not even look at chat logs which I thought was bull. Why do people call and spend money on calling when they already are paying for Internet and they both have cams and mic? I know I would rather see who I was talking to than to just hear a voice. We even went as far as to record a screen shot photo of her desk top when any call was over a hour long with video this way they could see the physical yahoo messenger box with a call time and then you could see both her and my web cam on the screen plus what we were talking about up to that point. They did not look at 1 single piece of paper from those. Binh said she saw a pink paper on his stack, but they asked about my ex wife and when Binh said she was in prison they asked why and when Binh answered his face went white and then he came back with a blue a short time later. But if this was the case, when we turned in the requested evidence I had a print screen of my Ex wife's prison photo and location not to mention what she was convicted of along with all the offenses she has had while in prison to back up what Binh said. So I just think they were planning on handing out a blue from the start, but Binh swears there was a pink sheet at the beginning of the interview. Jerome What info did they ask for? Timeline, list of her relatives, and proof of where my Ex wife currently lives	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-09-14 17:48:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (ScottThuy @ Sep 14 2009, 04:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (luckytxn @ Sep 13 2009, 11:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Or as they have done before they stopped issuing visa' because of a investigation of a large fraud ring. Also I noticed many timelines being prepared here by people that were large enough to read like a novel and maybe they needed time to read them. Some people are slow readers. How can I get away with a one page timeline and others need 15 plus pages? But we can all keep coming up with all kinds of scenarios. I personally would like to know what people are Catholic or Buddhist and if that makes a difference or easier to get a pink or blue. So far it seems like it was limited to July for the most part... there were several others here since that got pink... we should be seeing a bunch of people going for interviews in the coming weeks.... I don't see them scheduled, but as long as they are not hung up in NVC AP they should be getting appointmnents... There are actually a bunch of people here that are already into the consulate phase or have just started the consulate phase.. we can only wait and see if they start getting pinks or blues again... I feel like an author that is preparing a newly written book to go to the publisher... in recent days I have spent so much time organizing the paperwork to go to the interview.... I want to have it laid out in a manner that makes it very easy for the CO to navigate and provides everything that they need, to avoid a request for additional info. I think i am on track with that. For those that are in AP, do you think the quality or organization of your paperwork had any impact on the process? Was everyone in AP asked for additional info in an initial blue slip? We were asked for more info on the first blue. Binh said she had everything in order, and we went through it countless times. They just seemed like they were not interested in any of our evidence. We had the chat log history and the actual chat logs printed out and in each month by its self. They did not even look at chat logs which I thought was bull. Why do people call and spend money on calling when they already are paying for Internet and they both have cams and mic? I know I would rather see who I was talking to than to just hear a voice. We even went as far as to record a screen shot photo of her desk top when any call was over a hour long with video this way they could see the physical yahoo messenger box with a call time and then you could see both her and my web cam on the screen plus what we were talking about up to that point. They did not look at 1 single piece of paper from those. Binh said she saw a pink paper on his stack, but they asked about my ex wife and when Binh said she was in prison they asked why and when Binh answered his face went white and then he came back with a blue a short time later. But if this was the case, when we turned in the requested evidence I had a print screen of my Ex wife's prison photo and location not to mention what she was convicted of along with all the offenses she has had while in prison to back up what Binh said. So I just think they were planning on handing out a blue from the start, but Binh swears there was a pink sheet at the beginning of the interview. Jerome	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-09-14 16:51:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	Honestly Jerome, dont you have better things to do with your time? You arent helping anyone in AP with you stories, true or not. I think that a CO saying that when a file gets put into AP that it is up to the petitioner to prove them wrong and that the relationship is legit is a good thing to let people know. Some people simply wait and do nothing, while others email them all the time, and some people even tell others not to email them often because they get no real response. You are entitled to your opinion as everyone is. But when a CO that I have become friends with tells me something I feel that it is helpful to those. Maybe not the fact that most cases are in AP are basically a denial, but that is what it is, there is no way to change it there was a thread on what AP really meant. It might not be something people want to admit to, but facts are facts. My post was not to get people to worry, but to tell all of you that ARE in AP that there is still hope, and that instead of doing nothing like some people suggest, you should send them emails, make them aware that you are serious about your petition and that you are not simply going to let them keep your file on a desk collecting dust for 3 or 4 months. Regardless of your opinion that I am not helping, I am sure other people also feel the same, there are times when you have to be brutally honest, and when a person chooses to be brutally honest there will always be people that object that is what makes a public forum so great. Jerome	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2010-05-23 11:21:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	I can only wonder if it is possible to politely ask/insist for and get to talk to a supervisor when at the window... it has been said that when one submits the paper at the first window, to note the request to talk to a supervisor on the paper as the paper becomes part of the case... I would expect a supervisor to try to provide the same copy paste type of responses, but it could be possible that they would potentially provide some insight or influence on the case... The congressional liason tried to tell me yesterday that they could be sitting on cases waiting for the end of the fiscal to near so they could shift other visas from other visa categories as they are limited the numbers of visas in different categories and near the end of fiscal will shift visas around to use the extras from other categories... this made some sense, but we were already in the queue for a visa when we had our initial interview... it should not be that since we were not granted one then, we have to wait to see if there are any left over at the end of the year... quite an odd theory IMO.. but who knows what the consulate is doing.... I have great hopes that we will all get decisions in the next 70 to 90 days... I know it seems like so much more time to wait, but in the big picture of life, its only 10 to 13 weeks... if anyone gets a face to face with a supervisor,please ask if they clean house in August.. it can't hurt to ask can it? Scott, I talk with a CO from HCMC on a regular basis, and I turned him onto this site. He doesn’t post here, but he does enjoy reading everyone’s posts. He says they DO NOT clean house anytime of the year, and that it is funny to even think this way. There is also NO limit to any visa they can issue PERIOD. If they had one million K1 visa’s that looked good they could approve all one million. He does not know where your senator got his information, but it is wrong. He did say that when a file is in AP for a long time it is not usually a good thing depending on what the petitioner does while in AP. He has a file that he has been “sitting on” for 4 months, the people have only sent in 2 emails requesting information, to him this is a bad thing, and he wants to see lots of inquiries, but he also stressed that other CO’s feel differently, and feel they can be a nuisance. He did say that when they get put into AP and just sit is because there is a bad feeling on the case, or it could be a great case with a very bad interview. He also stressed that for him when he sits on a petition it is usually because he wants to deny, but that he is giving the people one last chance to change his mind, and most of his co workers feel the same way. I showed him the papers from my lawyer in regards to my case with the CO’s notes, and I guess he said that our CO still works there, but that after my inquiry he was suspended and just recently was allowed to start doing interviews again. Jerome VJ Members currently in AP/AR at HCMC: · Frank And Duyen ___________10/20/2009 CR1 Timeline ..... 214 Days · Terry1____________________11/00/2009 CR1 - proof of paternity ....approx 190 Days · AnhBob___________________12/07/2009 CR1- proof of bonafide, timeline, info about ex, info about child... 166 Days · RaymondV_________________12/00/2009 K1- timeline.....approx 150 Days · Ronnie&Hang______________12/29/2009 K1- timeline, medical results from Cho Ray....144 Days · James & Nicole_____________01/04/2010 K1- timeline, ex-wifes address, medical results from Cho Ray:awaiting TB treatment ....138 Days · ScottThuy__________________03/01/2010 K1- timeline, ex-spouse address,police cert.......... 82 Days · Josh_A___________________03/05/2010 CR1- timeline, Parent info, police cert......... 78 Days VJ Members who made it out of AP & results: · Lindal24 ________________7/8/2009 - 10/7/2009 - 91 days in AP - APPROVED CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & List of Relatives · FrednDaoHoney__________1/17/2009 - 10/15/2009 - 271 days in AP - APPROVED · JohnCali9 _______________8/6/2009 - 10/21/2009 - 76 days in AP - APPROVED K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Ex-wife's situation & Timeline · MichaelAndKha___________8/15/2009 - 10/21/2009 - 67 days in AP - Denied K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Timeline Reasons for Denial: 1.Inconsistent photos, 2.No engagement ceremony, 3.Lack of marriage ceremony details · Andy (not a VJ member)____8/17/2009 - 10/23/2009 - 67 days in AP - Denied K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline · Minh&Nhan (not a VJ member)__09/07/2009 - 10/23/2009 - 46 days in AP - APPROVED · Huong and Phung _________9/8/2009 - 10/27/2009 - 49 days in AP - Denied CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline · JeromeBinh______________8/20/2009 - 10/28/2009 - 69 days in AP - Denied K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Ex-wife's situation, Timeline & List of Relatives Reasons for Denial: 1.Inconsistent Photos, 2.Communiciation not credible, 3.One visit, 4.Small engagement, 5.Engagement shortly after meeting, 6.B has 3 relatives in US, but only listed 2; P lived close to B's relatives, 7.Lack of marriage ceremony details · Ly Trinh _________________8/21/2009 - 10/28/2009 - 68 days in AP - Denied CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Timeline · Ituan __________________8/10/2009 - 09/15/2009 - 36 days in AP - Denied Additional interview granted for 11/11 2nd denial K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline · ToanTien________________8/20/2009 - 12/18/2009 120 days in AP APPROVED CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline-- co-sponsor... yes I said co-sponsor · Vi&Art____________________8/5/2009 K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline No results reported. · Robert & Mai_______________03/04/10 - 3/30/2010 no docs required--26 days in AP APPROVED	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2010-05-22 23:48:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	it is not refering to after approval... you may need to read all of the associated reference material tounderstand what they mean... DoS does not want consulates leaving visa applicants waiting in limbo... unless thereis a background or DHS check going on and in that case it can take as long as they want... Scott, regardless if it is not after approval or not. People can poop in one hand and wish in another and see which one fills up first. Regardless of what DOS wants, it rarely happens. Look at your case; do you really think they are still investigating something? Look at our case, same scenario we were out much longer than 30 days after we submitted evidence, and the list goes on and on and on. In a perfect world (which this is defiantly not) every visa application would be done in 30 days or less once all documents were submitted. I am not sure how long it takes to do a background check in Vietnam, but I know firsthand that I was able to get them done on employees that worked for me in 24 to 48 hours stateside. I also know that it takes about 3 days on average for anyone here to request a police check for the work permit when they have been here for over 6 months, so to think they are still conducting checks is just ludicrous, unless they just set them in a area and 2 or 3 or even 4 months later they finally send them off for checks. I really doubt that is what happens since so many people get a senator involved like you and I did along with countless others, then to throw in all the personal inquiries and complaints that people file. But regardless of what you or I think we will never really know what they are doing, or what they are not doing, but I truly feel that your checks have been done long ago and it is just sitting somewhere waiting for the stamp of either approval or denial. With our case I was there 10 days prior to our denial requesting information in person, I talked with the interviewing CO and everything, he said they had not got to it yet, and then poof we got a denial. I know they were not doing any background checks for quite a while since my lawyer got all the evidence, and even the CO’s personal notes. They had not done anything with my case accept note when the evidence was submitted and then he put another note in it that I had show up at the consulate making an inquiry into the case. No background check on me, Binh, or my ex wife, his mind was made up at the interview and nothing I could have done or submitted would have changed his mind, and I do have the proof to back that up since I have our complete file. Now this is not to say that they are not doing checks on your case, after all each case is different, so there might be something going on with your case. But to try and complain about your case being past the 30 days and stating that it is not supposed to happen that way is the same as stating that some cases go past the 90 days since submitting extra evidence while in AP. Many people do get out prior to the 90 day time limit, I am not sure on your case, but ours beat it by just a few days, and Fred’s went way past it. I think Linda was within the 90 days and many others. Keep up the hope, but just because it says something on the website doesn’t mean they will have to follow it, and even if they don’t, it does not mean we can do anything about it. Just my take, but it might not be right, or maybe it is. Jerome	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2010-05-16 06:52:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	One must wonder what information they are waiting for regarding cases in AP..... 9 FAM 42.71 PN1 TIMELY VISA ISSUANCE	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2010-05-15 22:30:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	Heading over to have coffee with the congressional liason right now... we'll see if he can do something this week or if I have to wait another month for the 90 DoS stated timeframe to pass.... Good luck hopefully they can get something done	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2010-05-03 17:37:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	Josh, Scott, Jacob, any word yet on the outcomes?	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2010-05-03 01:15:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	2010 Interviews at HCMC Consulate: MEMBER NAME................INTERVIEW DATE.....RESULT............ JANUARY JasonandHien (CR1)..................01-20-2010...Blue-Timeline-Resubmit 00-00-2010....APPROVED VN10 (CR1)..............................01-21-2010...APPROVED Josh_A(CR1).............................01-21-2010...Blue-Police Cert, Parental info, Timeline-Resubmit 03-05-2010...Blue-AP Scottthuy (K1)...........................01-26-2010...Blue-Police Cert, ex's info, Timeline-Resubmit 02-23-2010...Blue-police cert resubmit 3-1-10...Blue-AP Tony&Trish(K1)..........................01-27-2010...Blue- 2-24-2010 DENIED FEBRUARY VanNick (K1) .............................02-02-2010...APPROVED Asian206 (CR1)..........................02-02-2010...Blue-Timeline-Resubmit 03-03-2010...APPROVED Hantinh (K1)..............................02-02-2010...Blue-Timeline-Resubmit 03-03-2010...APPROVED Kevin and Tuyen(CR1 reaffirm)....02-05-2010...Green-I-864, Passport Photos-Resubmit 03-05-2010...APPROVED MARCH Shy1akaanh (CR1).....................03-01-2010...APPROVED Robert & Mai (K1 reaffirm)...........03-04-2010...Blue-...APPROVED Steve & Chi (K1).........................03-15-2010...Blue - I-134/financial docs-Resubmit 04-13-2010 DENIED Only 1 visit and relationship too short Vuster (CR1)..............................03-23-2010...APPROVED APRIL Jacob & Kieu (CR1).....................04-19-2010... MAY FeelingLucky (K1)........................05-12-2010 Dee & Tee (K1)...........................05-21-2010 June Greg_N_Lien (CR1)......................06-16-2010 KenN (CR1)....................................06-16-2010 Edited by jeromebinh, 01 May 2010 - 02:22 AM.	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2010-05-01 02:19:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	2010 Interviews at HCMC Consulate: MEMBER NAME................INTERVIEW DATE.....RESULT............ JANUARY JasonandHien (CR1)..................01-20-2010...Blue-Timeline-Resubmit 00-00-2010....APPROVED VN10 (CR1)..............................01-21-2010...APPROVED Josh_A(CR1).............................01-21-2010...Blue-Police Cert, Parental info, Timeline-Resubmit 03-05-2010...Blue-AP Scottthuy (K1)...........................01-26-2010...Blue-Police Cert, ex's info, Timeline-Resubmit 02-23-2010...Blue-police cert resubmit 3-1-10...Blue-AP Tony&Trish(K1)..........................01-27-2010...Blue- 2-24-2010 Denied FEBRUARY VanNick (K1) .............................02-02-2010...APPROVED Asian206 (CR1)..........................02-02-2010...Blue-Timeline-Resubmit 03-03-2010...APPROVED Hantinh (K1)..............................02-02-2010...Blue-Timeline-Resubmit 03-03-2010...APPROVED Kevin and Tuyen(CR1 reaffirm)....02-05-2010...Green-I-864, Passport Photos-Resubmit 03-05-2010...APPROVED MARCH Shy1akaanh (CR1).....................03-01-2010...APPROVED Robert & Mai (K1 reaffirm)...........03-04-2010...Blue-...APPROVED Steve & Chi (K1).........................03-15-2010...Blue - I-134/financial docs-Resubmit 04-13-2010 DENIED Only 1 visit and relationship too short Vuster (CR1)..............................03-23-2010...APPROVED APRIL Jacob & Kieu (CR1).....................04-19-2010... MAY FeelingLucky(K1)........................05-12-2010 Dee & Tee (K1)...........................05-21-2010	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2010-04-29 23:21:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	VJ Members currently in AP/AR at HCMC: Frank And Duyen ___________10/20/2009 CR1 Timeline Terry1____________________11/00/2009 CR1 - proof of paternity AnhBob___________________12/07/2009 CR1- proof of bonafide, timeline, info about ex, info about child RaymondV_________________12/00/2009 K1- timeline Ronnie&Hang______________12/29/2009 K1- timeline, medical results from Cho Ray James & Nicole_____________01/04/2010 K1- timeline, ex-wifes address, medical results from Cho Ray:awaiting TB treatment ScottThuy__________________03/01/2010 K1- timeline, ex-spouse address,police cert Josh_A___________________03/05/2010 CR1- timeline, Parent info, police cert VJ Members who made it out of AP & results: Lindal24 ________________7/8/2009 - 10/7/2009 - 91 days in AP - APPROVED CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & List of Relatives FrednDaoHoney__________1/17/2009 - 10/15/2009 - 271 days in AP - APPROVED JohnCali9 _______________8/6/2009 - 10/21/2009 - 76 days in AP - APPROVED K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Ex-wife's situation & Timeline MichaelAndKha___________8/15/2009 - 10/21/2009 - 67 days in AP - Denied K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Timeline Reasons for Denial: 1.Inconsistent photos, 2.No engagement ceremony, 3.Lack of marriage ceremony details Andy (not a VJ member)____8/17/2009 - 10/23/2009 - 67 days in AP - Denied K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Minh&Nhan (not a VJ member)__09/07/2009 - 10/23/2009 - 46 days in AP - APPROVED Huong and Phung _________9/8/2009 - 10/27/2009 - 49 days in AP - Denied CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline JeromeBinh______________8/20/2009 - 10/28/2009 - 69 days in AP - Denied K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Ex-wife's situation, Timeline & List of Relatives Reasons for Denial: 1.Inconsistent Photos, 2.Communiciation not credible, 3.One visit, 4.Small engagement, 5.Engagement shortly after meeting, 6.B has 3 relatives in US, but only listed 2; P lived close to B's relatives, 7.Lack of marriage ceremony details Ly Trinh _________________8/21/2009 - 10/28/2009 - 68 days in AP - Denied (?) CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Timeline Ituan __________________8/10/2009 - 09/15/2009 - 36 days in AP - Denied Additional interview granted for 11/11 2nd denial K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline ToanTien________________8/20/2009 - 12/18/2009 120 days in AP APPROVED CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline-- co-sponsor... yes I said co-sponsor Vi&Art____________________8/5/2009 K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline No results reported. Robert & Mai_______________03/04/10 - 3/30/2010 no docs required--26 days in AP APPROVED	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2010-04-19 19:59:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	2010 Interviews at HCMC Consulate: MEMBER NAME................INTERVIEW DATE.....RESULT............ JANUARY JasonandHien (CR1)..................01-20-2010...Blue-Timeline-Resubmit 00-00-2010....APPROVED VN10 (CR1)..............................01-21-2010...APPROVED Josh_A(CR1).............................01-21-2010...Blue-Police Cert, Parental info, Timeline-Resubmit 03-05-2010...Blue-AP Scottthuy (K1)...........................01-26-2010...Blue-Police Cert, ex's info, Timeline-Resubmit 02-23-2010...Blue-police cert resubmit 3-1-10...Blue-AP FEBRUARY VanNick (K1) .............................02-02-2010...APPROVED Asian206 (CR1)..........................02-02-2010...Blue-Timeline-Resubmit 03-03-2010...APPROVED Hantinh (K1)..............................02-02-2010...Blue-Timeline-Resubmit 03-03-2010...APPROVED Kevin and Tuyen(CR1 reaffirm)....02-05-2010...Green-I-864, Passport Photos-Resubmit 03-05-2010...APPROVED MARCH Shy1akaanh (CR1).....................03-01-2010...APPROVED Robert & Mai (K1 reaffirm)...........03-04-2010...Blue-...APPROVED Steve & Chi (K1).........................03-15-2010...Blue - I-134/financial docs-Resubmit 04-13-2010 DENIED Only 1 visit and relationship too short Vuster (CR1)..............................03-23-2010...APPROVED APRIL Jacob & Kieu (CR1).....................04-19-2010... MAY Dee & Tee (K1)...........................05-21-2010 Any word yet from Jacob	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2010-04-19 19:58:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	It happened with ME and another VJ member a while back.. they were in AP and they hired him and he went to the consulate to inquire about the case.. He talked to the General consul and then they were approved the next day... this as per the VJ member... this was all done as I said, before the decision was made... To be clear.. the ME is Marc Ellis This is second hand knowledge, but thanks for clarification on ME being Marc Ellis, I was thinking that you were going to go there for people. Each case is different still, so it might have worked for the other VJ member, and it might not work for you, but it is always worth a shot I do agree with that point.	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2010-04-16 20:58:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	I dont expect to hear anything for at least a few more weeks... The DoS site says dont't even inquire until it has been 2 months... I actually think that cases like mine get put back in the queue with the new cases coming into the consulate and we have to wait for a date again just like a new file showing up... in essence, if the I's are not dotted and T's all crossed when the case goes to the interview and second blue... then its like starting over at the consulate all over again... I also think that they have some issue that they are trying to resolve when it comes to cases like Franks or Bob's/.... for some reason they are waiting for something to get approved before they can say yes... I have read in the AP forum where someone's file was waiting for DoS approval as the consulate had asked for DoS to do some additional investigation for them and that is what was delaying the file... I have also seen where someone is able to request an appointment with the actual CO to discuss the case.... this seems to be what happened with Ituan... had I known this, I would have submitted a request prior to leaving VN last time... for those that have waited as long as Frank and Bob, it would be worth the time to try to get an appointment to talk to the CO... or even have ME go talk to the General Consul. Scott, not trying to burst your bubble, but unless you hold a law degree, there is NO way that YOU can go talk to the General Consul about any case other than your own, maybe in general terms about waiting times, but nothing case specific, and not even then, since many people have hired a lawyer like Marc and he can not even get this done, unless you file a complaint as I did, then no one can actually talk about your personal case accept you. Before I hired my lawyer he told me that there was nothing he can do unless we actually file a complaint, and at that point because a formal complaint had been lodged (through the right channels) that he would be able to get my files, this was the same thing that my senators aid told me, the difference between a senator for general inquiries is that you sign a release form, and it is simply a general inquiry. I know this from experience, not from second hand "my friend of a friend said joe blow can look into that for you." If you are wanting to look into this just call around to local lawyers that specialize in immigration, preferably in the states as this is where any formal complaint must first come from, and see what they are willing to do for you. I had to call 8 or 9 lawyers before I found one that acted like he was willing to push hard on my case, most said there was nothing they could really do. But what it boiled down to was I spent $3000 for a lawyer to simply get files, file a complaint, and get nothing done simply because of procedure, and my case ultimately expired. The one good thing I did get out of it was satisfaction that at least one person higher up admitted that there was a problem and that the interviewing CO did in fact "make false statements" (what they called it, but I say it was a lie) and the hope that if I did file again that with what happened to me the first time I MIGHT be able to have higher ups help my case get through the second time with a different outcome, although they actually told me to wait 2 years to file again since they would not guarentee it would not happen again and that with their inquiry and a formal complaint lodged that the Consulate MIGHT remember me and i might then get denied as soon as it arrived, or they would intentionally delay my application because I caused trouble for one of their own. The Consulate general did not advise me this might happen, but my lawyer did say that it was a possibility that it would happen. But as I said, there is no way you can do anything for anyone's case without a release, and then it would be very little, if you could then all lawyers could be calling daily or emailing daily trying to get things done, so it is not going to happen. Jerome Edited by jeromebinh, 16 April 2010 - 08:49 PM.	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2010-04-16 20:47:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	Same copy paste BS that they send us when we send them email asking.. case is pending review.. blah blah... order recieved.. blah blah... Dear Sir: Thank you for your inquiry. The beneficiary's file is pending review by a consular officer. Due to the large number of cases to be reviewed and the need to be fair to each applicant, we do not review cases out of sequence except when there is an urgent need to do so. Please be assured that the application and supporting information will be given every consideration consistent with U.S. law and regulations. Unfortunately, due to the large number of cases to be reviewed by our office, we regret that we are unable to provide you with a time frame in which a consular officer will reach a final decision on the beneficiary's case. Our office will contact the beneficiary as soon as there are developments with the case. If you have further inquiries, please do not delete your original email and please include the complete case number (HCM XXXX-XXX-XXX) in all correspondence. exact same thing they told my congressman twice.. it may help that I am two blocks away and can just drive by when I have time... That sucks, when I had my Senator ask about our case his aid got a personal response, but this was also after they had made their decision Edited by jeromebinh, 16 April 2010 - 07:11 PM.	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2010-04-16 19:10:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	2010 Interviews at HCMC Consulate: MEMBER NAME................INTERVIEW DATE.....RESULT............ JANUARY JasonandHien (CR1)..................01-20-2010...Blue-Timeline-Resubmit 00-00-2010....APPROVED VN10 (CR1)..............................01-21-2010...APPROVED Josh_A(CR1).............................01-21-2010...Blue-Police Cert, Parental info, Timeline-Resubmit 03-05-2010...Blue-AP Scottthuy (K1)...........................01-26-2010...Blue-Police Cert, ex's info, Timeline-Resubmit 02-23-2010...Blue-police cert resubmit 3-1-10...Blue-AP FEBRUARY VanNick (K1) .............................02-02-2010...APPROVED Asian206 (CR1)..........................02-02-2010...Blue-Timeline-Resubmit 03-03-2010...APPROVED Hantinh (K1)..............................02-02-2010...Blue-Timeline-Resubmit 03-03-2010...APPROVED Kevin and Tuyen(CR1 reaffirm)....02-05-2010...Green-I-864, Passport Photos-Resubmit 03-05-2010...APPROVED MARCH Shy1akaanh (CR1).....................03-01-2010...APPROVED Robert & Mai (K1 reaffirm)...........03-04-2010...Blue-...APPROVED Steve & Chi (K1).........................03-15-2010...Blue - I-134/financial docs-Resubmit 04-13-2010 Vuster (CR1)..............................03-23-2010...APPROVED APRIL Jacon & Kieu (CR1).....................04-19-2010... Any news Scott, Josh???	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2010-04-15 19:32:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	after reading all your issue and problems, i will now notarize the ####### out of everything. I am heading to vietnam on may 10th anyone want to meet up and share your wisdom with me please hit me up or call me 702-683-1963, i have t-mobile unlimited, free for me anytime, but watch your minutes haha charlie just remember each case is different, but you can never give to much "good" evidence	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2010-04-11 06:59:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	Just got back from the consulate, needing to hafe my affidavit of single status redone, and I talked to a CO from California. He said they serve 18 months overseas then another 18 back at home in the US, they are broken down into 6 month chuncks so that if there is a shortage in a different country they can be josseled around, and each CO can request perminate status in any country. On a funny note, if you feel that you were given the run around by people at the consulate, dont feel alone. This CO was here to get married to a Vientamese woman and was wanting information on what was quicker the K1 or the CR1 case, and they kept telling him he needed to go to a different place (where he worked for info) He argued and argued with them, and then finally wanted to get the americans name, and the guy gave him his first name only, then this CO said "Don't you ahve a last name?" I heard the person behind the window say "I do not have to give that to you" and then the CO said that he did, it was quite funny. I told him that if he needed forms and got tired of how they handled things that he could come to this site and download them	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2010-04-05 00:01:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	Talked to someone this morning that had a recent conversation here in the US with a CO from a consulate in SE Asia and he was a CO in VN before... the CO said they get transfered every 6 months... the clerks can be there for a long period of time but that the Consular officers get transfered regularly to avoid issues... who knows... when they get to the files they get to them... I truly think those cases in AP get set aside until someone decides to address them for whatever reason... and it does not work in an FIFO order as they state in all communications... That is proven in the cases that were in AP last year.. ust look at the dates of when people got in AP and when they got out... I talked to a current CO today in district 5 while looking for a dog, and he informed they ARE here for longer than 6 months and he thought it was funny that this 6 month time frame was even brought up. He told me that there was no way they would have anyone in any consulate for less than 1 year just because each case can take up to 4 months to process so for any CO to be in ANY cousulate for only 6 months would not be efficent at all, but most of them do get transfered out every 2 to 3 years, it depends on how long they want to be in a different country, but the average is 2 to 3 years for each CO, when I asked him about AP he told me that the same CO will look over the case that is in AP since he was the one that did the interview, and he would not confirm or deny that when a CO is getting shipped out that they just hurry through the cases that are in AP, but that they DO try to clear their load before they leave this way they have been on each case throughout its time in HCMC. He also said that they when a case gets reaffirmed that the original CO usually will get the case again. He seemed like a nice guy, and I wish we would have had him instead of our CO, but that is how the ball bounced in our case. BTW we did get a english bulldog today!	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2010-04-03 03:37:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	Just got an additional clue that may shed more light on my every 6 month house cleaning theory... The CO's are transfered from one consulate to another, every 6 months... a rotation... If the file is on the desk of a CO that deals with AP, the desk needs to be clean for the next CO.. or at least as clean as can be reasonably done... If I were the one coming into the consulate, I would want to try to get the remaining files out of my way as well... Assuming that they did this in Oct, we should have a new CO at the desk in the next 30 days. I dont buy into that at all Scott, as when I was just there last week for the marriage papers I saw the same CO that did our interview, I know it was our CO because I remember him when I submitted evidencein October, and he was the CO that did our interview, that is well over 6 months, I know a guy that works at the Australian embassy, and he said he works there for 2 years then gets transfered, not 6 months, that is a DIFFERENT embassy, but the 6 month thing sounds a bit funny, if that were the case they could never get anything done, 1 month for interview from packet 4 being sent, 1 month of waiting for resubmition, then another 90 days of AP that is 5 months there. Just my thoughts, but I think that the CO getting transfered every 6 months is very unrealistic, and improvable. Jerome	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2010-04-02 19:54:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	Good observation Scott. Lets hope April brings some good news for all of us ! Frank My personal feeling is that is not a good thing, it seems that each time they "clean house" they hand out denials instead of pinks, I would rather see slow movement with pinks every few weeks than tons of denials or more blues, but hopefully if they do "clean house" this time it will be cleaning with pinks not denials	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2010-03-23 18:57:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	2010 Interviews at HCMC Consulate: MEMBER NAME................INTERVIEW DATE.....RESULT............ JANUARY JasonandHien (CR1)..................01-20-2010...Blue-Timeline-Resubmit 00-00-2010....APPROVED VN10 (CR1)..............................01-21-2010...APPROVED Josh_A(CR1).............................01-21-2010...Blue-Police Cert, Parental info, Timeline-Resubmit 03-05-2010...Blue-AP Scottthuy (K1)...........................01-26-2010...Blue-Police Cert, ex's info, Timeline-Resubmit 02-23-2010...Blue-police cert resubmit 3-1-10...Blue-AP FEBRUARY VanNick (K1) .............................02-02-2010...APPROVED Asian206 (CR1)..........................02-02-2010...Blue-Timeline-Resubmit 03-03-2010...APPROVED Hantinh (K1)..............................02-02-2010...Blue-Timeline-Resubmit 03-03-2010...APPROVED Kevin and Tuyen(CR1 reaffirm)....02-05-2010...Green-I-864, Passport Photos-Resubmit 03-05-2010...APPROVED MARCH Shy1akaanh (CR1).....................03-01-2010...APPROVED Robert & Mai (K1 reaffirm)...........03-04-2010...Blue-AP Steve & Chi (K1).........................03-15-2010	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2010-03-15 18:44:00