Forum	Title	Content	Member	Sex	Country	Date/Time
Asia: East and Pacific	Ok, back from vietnam but need some help	QUOTE (Josephs @ Aug 25 2009, 11:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (JimVaPhuong @ Aug 25 2009, 01:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Josephs, why the obsession with SMS? It seems silly to get dinged every time you send a few words back and forth. Why not use email or instant messenger? well I like to talk to her when i am on my break at lunch at work. or before I sleep. with the time difference sometimes i am not home or she is not home when i want to talk to her. Her speaking English is ok, not good. but her reading and writing English is very very good. half the time I have to send her a SMS while we are on the phone because she doesn't understand something i am trying to say. When we are together we have little problems talking. if she doesn't understand what i am saying and we are together, I just get out my phone and type it and show it to her. or if its only 1 word that she doesn't understand. I write it on my hand with my finger. So that is why we use SMS so much. and if i or she try to spell the word on the phone, that sometimes is worse. d sounds like b or she forgets how to say a letter or some of her letters sound the same. we are working on the whole B as in BALL D as in Dog system. maybe after we get that sorted out there will be less need for SMS. communication will be the hardest thing in our relationship. but we are ready to deal with it. I think and her family agrees, that after she has lived here for about a year she will be able to talk English and understand very well. So that is why we use SMS so much. If your she lives in HCMC I can recomend a great english tutor. My fiancee Binh is a school teacher and she tutors people all the time. Her english is great. I think her english is better than mine at times! Jerome	BinhJerome	Male	Vietnam	2009-08-25 17:41:00
Asia: East and Pacific	Ok, back from vietnam but need some help	QUOTE (Josephs @ Aug 25 2009, 12:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Huong and Phung @ Aug 24 2009, 10:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> hey, welcome back. It's great to hear about your wife's interview. As of the phone card, I use to use lots of them but they dont keep the record of who you're calling. Well, you said that you dont need it anymore so I guess I can suggest you to use "Mambo" That's the phone card that i use. Lots of minutes for such a good quality card. You don't loose minutes if you stop talking like some of the other cards. I don't know much about text messaging because we don't use them at all. Great to hear you're back safely. How is the situation over there with the H1N1 stuff? I'm coming back there in three days. no worry N1H1, If you feel worried, then wear a mask when you fly, I saw people wearing them on the plane, but most were children and elderly people. also when on the plane, wash your hands often with soap, bring small bottle of hand sanitizer. (less than 3oz remember for carry on!!!!) I got really lucky on my flight home. from Hong Kong to Chicago my ticket didnt have a seat number on it. they over sold economy and economy Plus.... (united Airlines) so I got to Fly 14 hours in business class at the cost of Economy!!!!!! it was like sitting in my living room. and Im 6' 1" so the leg room was great! but I have to say, my 1st time I flew Korea Air, and this time was United. I would fly a non USA airliner if you can. the flight attendants on Korea Air were so nice and polite. but United were rushed and not polite. (but the ones in business class were very polite on united) just my 2 cents Good Luck on your Trip!!!!! and watch out for dunk honda's!!!!!!!!!!!! I almost forgot, when I first got Vonnage you can add a line and it would have a us number, if you sent her the router and she had high speed internet it woudl not cost you a penny to call her, just the monthly actavation fee and I think that is only like 14$ You might look into it. The first Vonnage line would be $25 a month and then the second, beats the heck out of a $400 phone bill	BinhJerome	Male	Vietnam	2009-08-25 17:37:00
Asia: East and Pacific	Ok, back from vietnam but need some help	QUOTE (Josephs @ Aug 24 2009, 11:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ok, so i am back in USA va nho phi rat nhieu (and miss Phi very much) now that the interview part is over and now we are just waiting for her TB test results, and maybe waiting treatment for TB. I was wondering about calling cards. We dont need evidence anymore. my cellphone bill this month was soooooo high. it almost made me sick(400+USD). we talked alot and we sent MANY MANY SMS to eachother. Anyone know of a good calling card, and maybe a program other than Skype for SMS? I sometimes use yahoo to send her SMS. that is free for me and costs her less. but she needs to be signed on yahoo on her yahoo account for her phone for her to get my SMS. My Phone contract is up, so I can also look for a new company if it has better SMS rates. I am with Verizon Wireless. SMS send =$.25 USD SMS Rcv'd =$.20 USD International Long Distance - Mobil = $0.56 / min TXT Messaging-Int'l Sent messages -- 301 301 75.25 TXT Messaging-Int'l Rcv'd messages -- 235 235 47.00 International Long Distance - Mobil 165.76 I have Vonnage and I want to say it is only like .32 per minute, maybe .36 Still high, but for the price of your phone bill you can buy a cheap net book and send it to her and pay for internet. Just use Skype or Yahoo or msn. They all have video and voice connect and other than the internet bill you have no bill. We use our phone when the internet does not work or if I travel I use the Cell. Keep your head up I am sure that everything will work out for you! Jerome	BinhJerome	Male	Vietnam	2009-08-25 17:33:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	VJ Members currently in AP at HCMC: Vi&Art _____________________8/5/2009 K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline MichaelAndKha______________8/15/2009 K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Timeline JeromeBinh_________________8/20/2009 K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Ex-wife's living situation, Timeline, List of Beneficiary Relatives in US ToanTien___________________8/20/2009 CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Ly Trinh ___________________8/21/2009 CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Timeline Huong and Phung ___________9/8/2009 CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline VJ Members who made it out of AP & results: Ituan _____________________8/10/2009 - 09/15/2009 - 36 days in AP - Denied K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Lindal24 ___________________7/8/2009 - 10/7/2009 - 91 days in AP - APPROVED CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline FrednDaoHoney_____________1/17/2009 - 10/15/2009 - 271 days in AP - APPROVED JohnCali9 __________________8/6/2009 - 10/21/2009 - 76 days in AP - APPROVED K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Ex-wife's living situation, Timeline Please if you have any updates post them here. Nice sounding ride Scott.	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-20 23:32:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (johncali9 @ Oct 20 2009, 09:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (ScottThuy @ Oct 19 2009, 07:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> who better to ask?.... [/size][/font][/color] Anh scott oiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii my wife approve to dayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy scott QUOTE (johncali9 @ Oct 20 2009, 06:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (ScottThuy @ Oct 19 2009, 07:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> who better to ask?.... [size=7] Anh scott oiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii my wife approve to dayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy scott troi oi oh my goddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd we got Pink John[font="Book Antiqua"]	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-20 22:39:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (johncali9 @ Oct 20 2009, 12:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (ScottThuy @ Oct 19 2009, 07:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The few questions I remember from the posts and phone call reports: Where does she/ex live? When did you divorce? Why? When did you marry the beneficiary? (trick question since it was a fiance / K-1) They have called the Ex's, Relatives and Petitioners.. and now they are checking with the local gossip.. I guess the trick is to make sure everyone knows everything in case they get the call. They also asked the routine questions about the current relationship... when start , how etc... The thing that is odd is that they clearly presented themself as someone other than the CO and asked questions that only a CO would ask... With the way that VN culture treats a wedding or engagement, The fact that they called on the gossip or called relatives is not a bad thing... If the neighbors in a VN village don't know about an engagement, then it likely is a sham.... since everyone knows who is engaged in my fiance's village and to whom.... Nobody said anything about being private since it was under the premice that it was someone else calling.. I posted about this topic before... no secret.. nothing that new... Hello Scott and cac anh ca chi The first thing i would like to say that make sure jeromebinh understand (he was debate a lot) hard men of the USA (please do not debate ) SHUT THE PIPE HOLLE DO NOT OPEN,THANNK'S okay here you go i would like to tell any one know ,(not try to scare the people) The Co was call me and investigate my family before one day after that i did call tell scott(FL) know that after that scott knew any thing ,scott(FL) was nice guy he was try to help ,help lot people in Vj, i personal to thank you scott(FL) and all my friend John John, I will reply to every post where you make some statement about me. Leave my name out unless you are going to ask me a question. Jerome	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-20 05:52:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (johncali9 @ Oct 18 2009, 11:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (ScottThuy @ Oct 18 2009, 07:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It is an investigation, that is part of the processing of the application... I think thats why they call it AP rather than an investigation... AP can cover any time delay in processing that is not normal. It is personal for all of us... I get pissed off half of the time when I call NVC to check the staus of our case and they say the same scripted statement every time (you are in AP and there is no timeframe for this process).. Some care and you can hear it, but its not personal to them or the ones actually handling the case.. its just a job and they are showing up at work each day and doing what we pay them to do... It just so happens that those that end up in AP have some red flag associated with the case that causes them to not be able to sign off on it withoud further investigation... they could be looking at phone records.... calling relatives.... looking on Facebook... we never know what they are doing in this investigation... or the decision process that takes place when they are done "investigating" but it all is additional time and processing that they otherwise would not have had to do if we had not had the red flags... I found out why I got pulled into AP @ NVC based on Gary's discussions with the VSC director last week... Having a security clearance is grounds enough for them to want to know who we are sleeping with and how it may affect our clearances so most of us in NVC AP have government clearances.. not all.... Because of my role with institutions that are on military bases around the world, the DoD wanted us to have certain clearance levels so there would be no issues if something came up during a lecture regarding technology. Its ridiculous, but I actually am glad that they are doing something to keep our bases safe... We all know that there are still many people in our government that consider us as "sleeping with the enemy".... That may be the guy that saw my file and said OMG what is he up to? Hello all ,(Not Jeromebinh) The girl she was call me last week ,today 8pm sunday california time ,she was call TRinh ly ask the same question ,she was asking me,i wuold like let you guy in VJ know (not Jeromebinh) she call from HCMC Good luck Trinh Ly Johncali Not trying to stir up things, but John regardless of whether or not you like me, this is a public forum, and to put (not jeromebinh) when you post looks funny. It is funny that you do it and I got a good laugh from it. I do not have any hard feelings toward you at all. I wish everyone luck in getting their visa and YES this includes YOU!!! Good luck John, hopefully with the phone calls you will soon get pink. (for Johncali) Jerome and Binh	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-19 06:03:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (WeatherEmperor @ Oct 18 2009, 04:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Jerome, You made an interesting point when you said that the CO gives a blue slip requesting evidence that you already have available for the CO to see that same day at the interview. What I still do not understand is how other people have gotten the CO to actually look at the evidence and get a pink slip. Those that got the pink slip did something different then those who got the blue slip. There just has to be something that the blue slip people are missing. I looked at the list of people that got blue slips or are in AP and it looks like the common denominator is the time line. Just about everybody has listed the time line as a reason for the blue. I also see list of relatives for the beneficiary and evidence of bonafide relationship....which brings me back to the evidence for the interview date issue. There has to be a link from the evidence submitted with the I-129F to the evidence that needs to be presented on the interview date. That "link" should force the CO to look at the evidence. I don't know. Im just trying to figure all this out before I file my petition I guess. Am I thinking wrong? Somebody please shed some light on this. <CARRICK> I do not think there is anything anyone can do to force anyone to actually look at more evidence, Half the people have the timeline and they still request it, well maybe not half but many do have it with them. I think they give the blue because it is either something said in the interview that they do not quite like or that it is to late in the day and they just dont want to make the decision. I might be wrong, but Binh stressed to them many times at the interview and after she got the blue she had the information they needed. So I think they were just set on giving the blue after she told them abpout my ex wife even though she had the proof right there for them to look at. Just do your best that is all anyone can do at HCMC QUOTE (jeromebinh @ Oct 18 2009, 06:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Huong and Phung @ Oct 18 2009, 12:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Jerome, I know that it's frustrating getting into the Consulate and get the same generic answer but don't get too pushy. I know you have your way of doing it but it's best for us to present ourselves professionally. I was there talking to them and they actually takes note of what you said. Say something truthful and touching, you'll see they have feeling too. Don't get too agressive and it might turn on you. Good luck Jerome and Binh. I thank you for your opinion, we have decided to just email them. I was never going to get pushy, or at least never intended to, I just wanted to feel out the waters and ask some straight forward questions, like if they are supposed to be looking for evidence of a bonafide relationship why did they not even look at 300 plus pages that we had, and also why they did not want to look at the time line that we had, and the evidence of where my ex wife currently lives?, and ask why they would have refused to look at it then give us a blue requesting the same information, all in a polite way, but if at the time I was talking with him I sensed he was in a pissy mood I was not going to mention any of it, and just simply ask when they thought they might actually get to our case, but instead we will email them and mention these facts to them but not question why just mention that we had and still have over 300 pages of information that proves we have a ongoing relationship as well as this was my 3rd trip to HCMC to be with her. But thanks for all you advice. Jerome and Binh	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-18 19:43:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (jeromebinh @ Oct 17 2009, 09:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (jeromebinh @ Oct 16 2009, 10:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (jeromebinh @ Oct 15 2009, 07:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (jeromebinh @ Oct 15 2009, 05:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Lets divide up those of us that are in AP. Please add to this post and put if you are in AP on a K1 visa or on a CR1 visa, please list your first blue and your reason for that blue along with your second blue that put you into the AP limbo. This will help those determine what they need to do, and help us figure out if we can expect results and possibly when. With the difference in case and people emailing and getting the same response that they do not go out of order it might be helpful to separate us all out. Please if you are denied, give us that reason as well. This is the current list of those I know that are in AP Those of us currently in AP at HCMC: Vi&Art 8/5/2009 K1 Visa First blue requesting Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline JohnCali9 8/6/2009 K1 Visa First blue requesting Ex-wife's living situation, Timeline MichaelAndKha 8/15/2009 K1 Visa First blue requesting Timeline JeromeBinh 8/20/2009 K1 visa First blue requesting Ex-wife's living situation, Timeline, and where Binh's family live in the USA ToanTien 8/20/2009 Cr1 Visa First blue requesting Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Ly Trinh 8/21/2009 CR1 Visa First blue requesting Timeline Huong and Phung 9/8/2009 CR1 Visa First blue Requesting proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Those who are out of AP w/ results: Ituan 8/10/2009 - 09/15/2009 - 36 days in AP - Denied Lindal24 7/8/2009 - 10/7/2009 - 91 days in AP - APPROVED FrednDaoHoney 1/17/2009 - 10/14/2009 - 271 days in AP - APPROVED	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-18 08:26:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	[/quote] Ok if you want to call it Additional Processing you can. The man told me investigation. Maybe for you it is not personal but, when in an interview they ask about a Wedding date knowing they are not going to give the visa I take that personal. When Dao's two sons come here and go to school it will be hard enough to start in a foriegn school, now because the Consulate drag their feet they have to start late in the year without summer english tutoring. I take that personal. When I have to figure out when and how to get attention from a government employee that is too busy for me. I take that personal. I laid all my information out for the Visa process expecting to be treated fair and with respect, the Consulate did niether. I take that personal. I agree with you. If I hadn't spent the time to go to the Consulate and bang on window 15 I think we would still be in AP. Also agree that our commitment to or relationship is stronger but I think it would be the same without AP/investigating. The consulate wasted my time. I take that personal too. Does anyone else take it personal? Fred Linda, Please don't take this personal, I am just having fun stirring the pot. [/quote] You go boy!!! I do agree with you they asked Binh the same #######, when and where we were going to get married, she was not as quick of a thinker as I am and I would have told them the reason she does not know where we are having the wedding, because we have issues to work out. We do not know for sure when we would get the visa, we did have plans for the first week of September during the holiday, but before I spent money on deposits and had my preacher clear his schedule and contact her family to see what locations would be best for everyone to come that we had to wait for the visa. AP is just another word for investigation, plane and simple. They want to look over your info, and this means to look into it as well, so investigative processing should be more accurate in my book. How can they say AP and ask for you to come back with the things you already have there that they refuse to look at???? If they were not going to investigate your questions. If there were additional processing it would be for children involved maybe needing more time to make sure there were no other parents not wanting their child to leave Vietnam or something along those lines, but if it was simply additional processing and not investigative processing they would not need any evidence, why would you want to know where a persons other family lives? a ex spouse? a time line? This is to make sure what was said matches up and to me this is investigation, not processing. but to some it might be different, this is simply my spin on the AP or as I call int IP. Not trying to poke the fire, just simply putting my two cents worth in. Jerome	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-18 05:53:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (Huong and Phung @ Oct 18 2009, 12:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Jerome, I know that it's frustrating getting into the Consulate and get the same generic answer but don't get too pushy. I know you have your way of doing it but it's best for us to present ourselves professionally. I was there talking to them and they actually takes note of what you said. Say something truthful and touching, you'll see they have feeling too. Don't get too agressive and it might turn on you. Good luck Jerome and Binh. I thank you for your opinion, we have decided to just email them. I was never going to get pushy, or at least never intended to, I just wanted to feel out the waters and ask some straight forward questions, like if they are supposed to be looking for evidence of a bonafide relationship why did they not even look at 300 plus pages that we had, and also why they did not want to look at the time line that we had, and the evidence of where my ex wife currently lives?, and ask why they would have refused to look at it then give us a blue requesting the same information, all in a polite way, but if at the time I was talking with him I sensed he was in a pissy mood I was not going to mention any of it, and just simply ask when they thought they might actually get to our case, but instead we will email them and mention these facts to them but not question why just mention that we had and still have over 300 pages of information that proves we have a ongoing relationship as well as this was my 3rd trip to HCMC to be with her. But thanks for all you advice. Jerome and Binh	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-18 05:40:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (ScottThuy @ Oct 17 2009, 10:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (lindal24 @ Oct 17 2009, 09:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Dai_Tx @ Oct 17 2009, 08:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> come to think of it... Like all government organizations like the IRS and social security office we just have to take what they give us. I remember being frustrated whenever I had to deal with the government on my taxes or even to dispute something at the driver's license office. I feels the consulate is going to treat us like the other government agencies in the US where they are paid with US tax payers money. I think this is a little different since this is more subjective than objective. The IRS and SSN offices are supposed to follow rules to the "T" but the consulatar officers, not so much... One of my students got pushy with the CO a couple of months ago... He felt the questions being asked were ridiculous... (they were) and he said just give me the visa I am busy today..... The CO quickly said denied and threw him out... There was no other reason for denial as the guy has very strong ties to VN being the wealthy CFO of a large company and having a large family there... if the case is in AP, there is already some reason that they did not approve it.... it would not take much to piss them off and have them deny it... Thanks for the advice, I was not planning on getting really pushy, but I did want to stress some points if the person I was talking with seemed in a good mood, but I really don't want to risk getting put back another 60 days or even more, we have decided to simply email them and mention the fact that we had 300 plus pages of chat logs that they did not even look at. The only red flag that i am really worried about is we strictly use chat unless the INTERNET is down, it is cheaper. But thanks again for the advice Jerome and Binh	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-18 05:33:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (jeromebinh @ Oct 17 2009, 09:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (jeromebinh @ Oct 16 2009, 10:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (jeromebinh @ Oct 15 2009, 07:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (jeromebinh @ Oct 15 2009, 05:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Lets divide up those of us that are in AP. Please add to this post and put if you are in AP on a K1 visa or on a CR1 visa, please list your first blue and your reason for that blue along with your second blue that put you into the AP limbo. This will help those determine what they need to do, and help us figure out if we can expect results and possibly when. With the difference in case and people emailing and getting the same response that they do not go out of order it might be helpful to separate us all out. Please if you are denied, give us that reason as well. This is the current list of those I know that are in AP Those of us currently in AP at HCMC: Vi&Art 8/5/2009 K1 Visa First blue requesting Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline JohnCali9 8/6/2009 K1 Visa First blue requesting Ex-wife's living situation, Timeline MichaelAndKha 8/15/2009 K1 Visa First blue requesting Timeline JeromeBinh 8/20/2009 K1 visa First blue requesting Ex-wife's living situation, Timeline, and where Binh's family live in the USA ToanTien 8/20/2009 Cr1 Visa First blue requesting Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Ly Trinh 8/21/2009 CR1 Visa First blue requesting Timeline Huong and Phung 9/8/2009 CR1 Visa First blue Requesting proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Those who are out of AP w/ results: Ituan 8/10/2009 - 09/15/2009 - 36 days in AP - Denied Lindal24 7/8/2009 - 10/7/2009 - 91 days in AP - APPROVED FrednDaoHoney 1/17/2009 - 10/14/2009 - 271 days in AP - APPROVED	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-17 22:35:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (jeromebinh @ Oct 16 2009, 10:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (jeromebinh @ Oct 15 2009, 07:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (jeromebinh @ Oct 15 2009, 05:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Lets divide up those of us that are in AP. Please add to this post and put if you are in AP on a K1 visa or on a CR1 visa, please list your first blue and your reason for that blue along with your second blue that put you into the AP limbo. This will help those determine what they need to do, and help us figure out if we can expect results and possibly when. With the difference in case and people emailing and getting the same response that they do not go out of order it might be helpful to separate us all out. Please if you are denied, give us that reason as well. This is the current list of those I know that are in AP Those of us currently in AP at HCMC: Vi&Art 8/5/2009 K1 Visa First blue requesting Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline JohnCali9 8/6/2009 K1 Visa First blue requesting Ex-wife's living situation, Timeline MichaelAndKha 8/15/2009 K1 Visa First blue requesting Timeline JeromeBinh 8/20/2009 K1 visa First blue requesting Ex-wife's living situation, Timeline, and where Binh's family live in the USA ToanTien 8/20/2009 Cr1 Visa First blue requesting Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Ly Trinh 8/21/2009 CR1 Visa First blue requesting Timeline Huong and Phung 9/8/2009 CR1 Visa First blue Requesting proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Those who are out of AP w/ results: Ituan 8/10/2009 - 09/15/2009 - 36 days in AP - Denied Lindal24 7/8/2009 - 10/7/2009 - 91 days in AP - APPROVED FrednDaoHoney 1/17/2009 - 10/14/2009 - 271 days in AP - APPROVED	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-17 20:17:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (Dai_Tx @ Oct 17 2009, 09:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> And then I forgot to add... Like all those government agency it just takes time for the results we want. Good Luck I know and that is why I say I will play it by ear when I get there. I want to see how they are reacting as I get a little more pushy, but not to pushy. If they seem on edge then I will just ask questions and if I think i can push it a bit I will.	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-17 20:15:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (WeatherEmperor @ Oct 17 2009, 03:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thanks for your help. Now I understand that evidence of the bonafide relationship should be submitted at the time of the interview. I have read some other posters say that when they tried to submit evidence at the time of the interview such as time lines and list of relatives in the US, the CO refused to accept those. Basically, how can HCMC tell people to bring evidence to the interview if the CO just refuses to accept some of it anyways? <CARRICK> QUOTE (b_weeks @ Oct 16 2009, 11:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> evidence of Bona Fide relationship should be submitted at the time of INTERVIEW. Not before. The only requirement for the submission of the I-129F is that you have met in person in the past 2 years. Because HCMC does not play by the rules, when i go in Tuesday I am going to ask the Co about it as well. I know I have not been in AP for 90 days yet but quite frankly I do not care. I pay my taxes which helps pay their salary, they are supposed to do their job, and I am going to ask why they can give a blue for specific reasons when the person has that information right there with them, and also that if they do not look at all the evidence presented, why can they request more time to process??? They had her there and more info to make a decision yet they did not make it. BS in my mind, if they do not look at all the evidence, then they should have given pink. But Tuesday I will play it by ear and see what the supervisor has to say.	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-17 19:33:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (WeatherEmperor @ Oct 16 2009, 11:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hey guys, I looked through the list Jerome created for those that got a blue slip and I see many of those are because of the Time Line and Evidence of Bona fide relationship. When should the evidence of a bonafide relationship be submitted? During the interview or sometime before? I am assuming this bonafide evidence should include the emails, chat longs, letters, pictures, passport stamps for travel, etc. Is this correct? <CARRICK> Carrick, I would submit some of it when you file for the K1 and make sure what you submit she has copies of. People here suggest to front load your file with lots of things, and then they also say to not put that much in it. I would submit a time line with the original K1 application, and then also submit some of the proof of a bonifide relationship along with it. Send many photos of the two of you together, a few chat logs, maybe a phone bill or two just basic things, the hard part is not getting past the service center in America, but getting past the CO in HCMC. Submit everything you have with the interview, and hope for the best. Just as I said remember to have copies of everything you submit. I am going back to the consulate Tuesday to resubmit more evidence and try to talk to a supervisor about our case. I am going to submit everything that they did not accept at her interview. They did not look at our chat logs, and our screen shots with times on them for our voice and video chats, so they will get them Tuesday this way they can not try to use the phone calling card against us. We chat more than we call if you were to only look at my phone bills it would look like we do not have a bonifide relationship because we chat and talk on yahoo every day. It is free, well not free but we both already pay for INTERNET so it is free in that sense, and even paying for INTERNET for both of us would be far cheaper than just calling her. Good luck bro, hope you get everything worked out with your trip and that you do not go through what most of us in AP are going through now. Jerome and Binh	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-16 22:51:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (lindal24 @ Oct 16 2009, 11:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> IMO...I think it's just another thread to have to read through--esp if this thread also gets to 18 pages... If it gets to 18 pages then a new thread can be made. People choose what they want to read, if they want to read this thread they can read it if not they wont read it. Half of the threads that get up to 18 pages only get read by new people and when we go to a thread that has that many pages we go tot he back first and read what is new any way. This gives people more things to read, love it or hate it it is your choice.	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-16 22:27:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (jeromebinh @ Oct 15 2009, 07:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (jeromebinh @ Oct 15 2009, 05:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Lets divide up those of us that are in AP. Please add to this post and put if you are in AP on a K1 visa or on a CR1 visa, please list your first blue and your reason for that blue along with your second blue that put you into the AP limbo. This will help those determine what they need to do, and help us figure out if we can expect results and possibly when. With the difference in case and people emailing and getting the same response that they do not go out of order it might be helpful to separate us all out. Please if you are denied, give us that reason as well. This is the current list of those I know that are in AP Those of us currently in AP at HCMC: Vi&Art 8/5/2009 K1 Visa First blue requesting Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline JohnCali9 8/6/2009 K1 Visa First blue requesting Ex-wife's living situation, Timeline MichaelAndKha 8/15/2009 K1 Visa First blue requesting Timeline JeromeBinh 8/20/2009 K1 visa First blue requesting Ex-wife's living situation, Timeline, and where Binh's family live in the USA ToanTien 8/20/2009 Cr1 Visa First blue requesting Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Ly Trinh 8/21/2009 CR1 Visa First blue requesting Timeline Huong and Phung 9/8/2009 CR1 Visa First blue Requesting proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Those who are out of AP w/ results: Ituan 8/10/2009 - 09/15/2009 - 36 days in AP - Denied Lindal24 7/8/2009 - 10/7/2009 - 91 days in AP - APPROVED FrednDaoHoney 1/17/2009 - 10/14/2009 - 271 days in AP - APPROVED	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-16 21:52:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (lindal24 @ Oct 16 2009, 09:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> IS there still reason for two threads now? Can we get a MOD to combine the two threads?? The reason is the same as it always was. I feel that there needs to be more information and not simply just the list of those on AP. There are threads posted about who is for what kind of visa, those that got blue for what reasons, and those that got AP. I just tried to combine 3 threads onto one, and with the old thread and 18 plus pages for new readers they have to sift through 18 pages of only one part of the information. A new thread breeds new life into a good thread. We went from the model A to the Smart car. Evolution is what makes humanity great, let this thread evolve into what it can be. Eventually with all the suggestions of using wiki this thread may also become outdated as well. With the original thread, there is a bunch of great information on it that deserves to be read, and hopefully this thread will grow and be as beneficial to people as well.	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-16 21:00:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	Those of us currently in AP at HCMC: Vi&Art 8/5/2009 JohnCali9 8/6/2009 K1 Visa MichaelAndKha 8/15/2009 JeromeBinh 8/20/2009 K1 visa Interview date with first blue requesting proof of where my ex wife lived, Time line, and Proof of where Binh's family live in the USA ToanTien 8/20/2009 Ly Trinh 8/21/2009 CR1 Visa Huong and Phung 9/8/2009 CR1 Visa Interview date with first blue requesting BONEFIDE MARRIAGE & TIMELINE Those who are out of AP w/ results: Ituan 8/10/2009 - 09/15/2009 - 36 days in AP - Denied Lindal24 7/8/2009 - 10/7/2009 - 91 days in AP - APPROVED FrednDaoHoney 1/17/2009 - 10/14/2009 - 9 months in AP - APPROVED	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-16 19:17:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (jeromebinh @ Oct 15 2009, 07:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (jeromebinh @ Oct 15 2009, 05:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Lets divide up those of us that are in AP. Please add to this post and put if you are in AP on a K1 visa or on a CR1 visa, please list your first blue and your reason for that blue along with your second blue that put you into the AP limbo. This will help those determine what they need to do, and help us figure out if we can expect results and possibly when. With the difference in case and people emailing and getting the same response that they do not go out of order it might be helpful to separate us all out. Please if you are denied, give us that reason as well. This is the current list of those I know that are in AP Those of us currently in AP at HCMC: Vi&Art 8/5/2009 JohnCali9 8/6/2009 K1 Visa MichaelAndKha 8/15/2009 JeromeBinh 8/20/2009 K1 visa Interview date with first blue requesting proof of where my ex wife lived, Time line, and Proof of where Binh's family live in the USA ToanTien 8/20/2009 Ly Trinh 8/21/2009 CR1 Visa Huong and Phung 9/8/2009 CR1 Visa Interview date with first blue requesting BONEFIDE MARRIAGE & TIMELINE Those who are out of AP w/ results: Ituan 8/10/2009 - 09/15/2009 - 36 days in AP - Denied Lindal24 7/8/2009 - 10/7/2009 - 91 days in AP - APPROVED FrednDaoHoney 1/17/2009 - 10/14/2009 - 9 months in AP - APPROVED	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-16 19:14:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (jeromebinh @ Oct 15 2009, 05:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Lets divide up those of us that are in AP. Please add to this post and put if you are in AP on a K1 visa or on a CR1 visa, please list your first blue and your reason for that blue along with your second blue that put you into the AP limbo. This will help those determine what they need to do, and help us figure out if we can expect results and possibly when. With the difference in case and people emailing and getting the same response that they do not go out of order it might be helpful to separate us all out. Please if you are denied, give us that reason as well. This is the current list of those I know that are in AP Those of us currently in AP at HCMC: FrednDaoHoney 1/17/2009 Vi&Art 8/5/2009 JohnCali9 8/6/2009 K1 Visa MichaelAndKha 8/15/2009 JeromeBinh 8/20/2009 K1 visa Interview date with first blue requesting proof of where my ex wife lived, Time line, and Proof of where Binh's family live in the USA ToanTien 8/20/2009 Ly Trinh 8/21/2009 CR1 Visa Huong and Phung 9/8/2009 CR1 Visa Those who are out of AP w/ results: Ituan 8/10/2009 - 09/15/2009 - 36 days in AP - Denied Lindal24 7/8/2009 - 10/7/2009 - 91 days in AP - APPROVED More great news, Joseph got the visa!!!!!! Congrats!!!!!	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-16 07:06:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	[/quote] if i dont have engaged party and wedding in vietnam how can i have evidence before wedding and after wedding, he propose me on valentine's day 2009 and we got rings together on 23rd May 2009 should i put evidence how? pls help me, i had appointement on nov 5th 2009, i'm waitting fot that hopefully pink sheet...thanks for everyone [/quote] Do as Linda said, get other evidence, if you have any reciepts for things you did like going to the movies or on tourist trips, any dinners out in nice places, all the photos of not only you two together, but in different places and with her family as well. I have seen some people and talked to some at the consulate that were denied because the evidence they provided showed only 2 or 3 days together, so make sure you have many photos in different clothing, this shows at least you were changing clothes between photos lol, but seriously, I do not know how anyone could only show proof for being together for such a short time unless they did not have many photos and not of just a few poses, make sure your photos show different days, and not with a date on the photo, I hope you understand what I mean with different clothes, and lots of photos, Just be prepared as much as possible. Good luck! Jerome and Binh	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-16 04:15:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	I did forget to mention one thing that was said. I will now address the "censorship" What I asked was for people to not glorify all the negative, because it scared people and to simply try to post more positive posts than negative. There are far to many people that glorify all the negative posts and most of which are not needed, if a question was asked and the answer was negative, then it needed to be posted, but to simply post negative because they had a bad day or just to post it I felt was un needed, and instead of calling a person out in a public forum, I went to him in private to try and solve this problem, and when I did this words were put into my mouth, and then it came on a public forum as well instead of trying to settle things like a grown up it has turned into a childish game. Regardless of what else is said about this, I am no longer going to comment on what was or was not said, but I did want everyone to know he was talking about me, and for me to give my version of what transpired. I think it is sad that he had to stoop so low as to put this on a public forum when I was simply trying to give his post new life because it is a good post. I never try to poke at people behind their back, I might be brash and rude at times, but that is who I am, I do apologize when I make mistakes, and no one is perfect, that is what makes us human. But there is one thing that I refuse to do and that is stand by when someone is making accusations about me that I feel is untrue. I apologize that everyone had to read all these negative posts, but when one person decided to make it public when I went to him in private then I had to make a stand. I am by far not god, nor do I ever claim to be. I claim to be a straight shooter, if I feel something is not right I will point it out, if I am mistaken I am not to proud to eat my own words. I believe that posting good things will help the confidence of people going into a interview, if you scare them with only horror then why should they even try? If you know you are going to get blue or that everyone is getting white why even try? If you go to a interview scared how is that going to help you?? Yes people need to be aware of what it is like, I agree with that, but how many times have everyone of you read posts from me or other people about the horror that was not needed? How many times have you read that someone says 95% fail how do you get this information? Why should it be posted? I do not see the value in things like that. But as I said, sorry for you all having to read this, but I refuse to bow down to someone making accusations against me. I am here to help, and I am also here to try and cheer people up, and make them confident and not scared. Jerome	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-15 20:01:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (Krikit @ Oct 15 2009, 07:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> There is no need to be rude. I politely asked for clarification because I obviously did not understand the situation..... despite the fact that I "read that and then looked". I was not trying to sound rude, if you feel i was, i do apologize for that. I just thought it was clear as to why I put up the new thread, also i thought it might help to fine tune the previous thread as it was/is a really good thread, I just wanted to give it new life. Jerome	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-15 19:01:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	[/quote] There have been Pm's to censor what I post. To the other VJ member that feels he is the GOD of VJ and decides who should post and what they post... enjoy yourself... VJ members have the right to freely post and I have not submitted the communication to admin to have you reprimanded for the TOS violation as I will not lower myself to that level. Its easier to ignore a fool. You will eventually realize that bullying VJ members is not the way to help people... That said... This forum was started to help everyone stay in touch as they go through AP. The REALITY of what happens during the Entire Visa process is what is important... Unfortunately this is not a pleasant journey. The difficult voyage is worth it when we reach the destination. There are many pitfalls that have been identified by others that have gone before us and those experiences are what prepares those that journey behind them. It has been argued that the reality is too scary, but it is what it is "Reality". If someone denies the reality that exists in this Journey and in life, then they have some serious issues to address. I really hope with all of the visa fraud, that has taken place, that nobody here has denied the reality of a fraud that is being perpetrated on them. Just because another forum has been created for those in HCMC AP does not mean I will close this one.. by keeping this one open it allows for others to stay in touch with reality rather than censorship. [/quote] First off, I did not ask for this forum to be shut down, and the reality of it all is that I simply wanted to group people a bit better than just put us all in the same AP. If you stop and look at what I have asked in my thread it makes perfect sense. If you want to throw things out there, why don't you mention the truth and not your twisted version of the truth, why do you say that I bully people because of their bad English when you know you were doing that long before I made the post apologizing to the person for remarks I had made that were far less abusive than yours?? Then why don't you mention the fact that in your Pm's to me you we putting words in my mouth??? you want to make a post and say that you could have me reprimanded, I would have to say that is funny. This post might get me reprimanded, but any pm I sent you would not, although I think the ones you sent to me would do the job. But truly unlike you, I want to help people and this cat fighting is not doing that, I went in a pm instead of a public forum, and yet you try to bash us without mentioning any names, man get a life, and you should really look at my post, because after our little disagreement I was still posting on this thread, but then I wanted to simply separate things out and give your original thread new life, I thought it was a good thread and still do think that, but I simply wanted to sharpen it a bit or at least in my mind I thought to sharpen it would help to clarify the differences in cases, as well as group the reasons we got a initial blue slip and that it would be all in one place, so instead of having to look for other posts in different threads or send pm to ask why they got a blue it would be right there in front of you. Jerome	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-15 18:56:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (Krikit @ Oct 15 2009, 11:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I guess I don't understand the need for a duplicate thread. jeromebinh, could you please explain how this thread is different than the other? Thanks very much. Link to original HCMC AP thread First off, on this thread I asked for people to say what visa they are filing for, and to also put why they got a original blue slip, if you would have read that and then looked you would see that I have the reasons for our first blue with the list. Instead of a reader looking through 2 or 3 posts and the persons status it will be all on one place. It should be easier for readers to look and understand that each case is different, and to simply group them all together can be confusing. I simply wanted to take out most of the confusion. I hope this clarifies this for you. Jerome QUOTE (jeromebinh @ Oct 15 2009, 07:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (jeromebinh @ Oct 15 2009, 05:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Lets divide up those of us that are in AP. Please add to this post and put if you are in AP on a K1 visa or on a CR1 visa, please list your first blue and your reason for that blue along with your second blue that put you into the AP limbo. This will help those determine what they need to do, and help us figure out if we can expect results and possibly when. With the difference in case and people emailing and getting the same response that they do not go out of order it might be helpful to separate us all out. Please if you are denied, give us that reason as well. This is the current list of those I know that are in AP Those of us currently in AP at HCMC: Vi&Art 8/5/2009 JohnCali9 8/6/2009 K1 Visa MichaelAndKha 8/15/2009 JeromeBinh 8/20/2009 K1 visa Interview date with first blue requesting proof of where my ex wife lived, Time line, and Proof of where Binh's family live in the USA ToanTien 8/20/2009 Ly Trinh 8/21/2009 CR1 Visa Huong and Phung 9/8/2009 CR1 Visa Those who are out of AP w/ results: Ituan 8/10/2009 - 09/15/2009 - 36 days in AP - Denied Lindal24 7/8/2009 - 10/7/2009 - 91 days in AP - APPROVED FrednDaoHoney 1/17/2009 - 10/14/2009 - 9 months in AP - APPROVED	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-15 18:31:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (jeromebinh @ Oct 15 2009, 05:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Lets divide up those of us that are in AP. Please add to this post and put if you are in AP on a K1 visa or on a CR1 visa, please list your first blue and your reason for that blue along with your second blue that put you into the AP limbo. This will help those determine what they need to do, and help us figure out if we can expect results and possibly when. With the difference in case and people emailing and getting the same response that they do not go out of order it might be helpful to separate us all out. Please if you are denied, give us that reason as well. This is the current list of those I know that are in AP Those of us currently in AP at HCMC: Vi&Art 8/5/2009 JohnCali9 8/6/2009 K1 Visa MichaelAndKha 8/15/2009 JeromeBinh 8/20/2009 K1 visa Interview date with first blue requesting proof of where my ex wife lived, Time line, and Proof of where Binh's family live in the USA ToanTien 8/20/2009 Ly Trinh 8/21/2009 CR1 Visa Huong and Phung 9/8/2009 CR1 Visa Those who are out of AP w/ results: Ituan 8/10/2009 - 09/15/2009 - 36 days in AP - Denied Lindal24 7/8/2009 - 10/7/2009 - 91 days in AP - APPROVED FrednDaoHoney 1/17/2009 - 10/14/2009 - 9 months in AP - APPROVED	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-15 06:08:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	Lets divide up those of us that are in AP. Please add to this post and put if you are in AP on a K1 visa or on a CR1 visa, please list your first blue and your reason for that blue along with your second blue that put you into the AP limbo. This will help those determine what they need to do, and help us figure out if we can expect results and possibly when. With the difference in case and people emailing and getting the same response that they do not go out of order it might be helpful to separate us all out. Please if you are denied, give us that reason as well. This is the current list of those I know that are in AP Those of us currently in AP at HCMC: FrednDaoHoney 1/17/2009 Vi&Art 8/5/2009 JohnCali9 8/6/2009 K1 Visa MichaelAndKha 8/15/2009 JeromeBinh 8/20/2009 K1 visa Interview date with first blue requesting proof of where my ex wife lived, Time line, and Proof of where Binh's family live in the USA ToanTien 8/20/2009 Ly Trinh 8/21/2009 CR1 Visa Huong and Phung 9/8/2009 CR1 Visa Those who are out of AP w/ results: Ituan 8/10/2009 - 09/15/2009 - 36 days in AP - Denied Lindal24 7/8/2009 - 10/7/2009 - 91 days in AP - APPROVED	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-15 04:09:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (JimVaPhuong @ Oct 13 2009, 09:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (jeromebinh @ Oct 13 2009, 06:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Got back from the consulate today. It was only about 10 seconds long. He asked why I was there and I told him that I wanted to see if there was anything they needed from me while I was there that could help with the visa, he stated that they had all the evidence they needed and that they would notify me when they went through our file if they needed anything else. On a different note, while I was waiting to go in I was watching people and to see what they had, I wrote down 25 people that I saw with blue or pink, or white or if I could not see what they got, here is a list as follows. Pink 6 Blue 4 White 2 could not see the papers on 13 of the 13, 4 looked happy, and 5 looked sad, the rest just walked out like nothing was wrong, it seems far from the 95% fail rate that was posted earlier so this might be good news for all of us in AP They knew you were coming so they decided to pull a mind scramble, and they printed the 221(g) notices on random color pieces of paper! Seriously, that's good news. I'm still telling Phuong to be prepared for the blue slip, but this gives me some hope that she might actually be coming back with me. I've sort of been thinking the odds were in the 20% range. If it was a mind scramble it worked lol! I bet most of the people that walked out with out reaction were blue, but some might have been pink. I was just happy to see so many pinks, wish they could have told me more but I knew they wouldn't after all we have only been in AP for about 2 months. Fred's wife said to bug them and to demand to speak with a supervisor, but I think that might just do more harm than good, I really do not want to piss off the people deciding my life. But i am still planning on emailing them at least once a month and then having Binh do the same, just telling them we are still here and maybe throwing in something that we did or talked about that week. Just trying to let them know we are interested in out case and yet not make them think we are trying to be to pushy. Hopefully you will be able to bring her back with you Jim, just because tons of us have blues do not mean you will get one. Pray for pink and hopefully you will get! Jerome and Binh	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-13 17:24:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	Got back from the consulate today. It was only about 10 seconds long. He asked why I was there and I told him that I wanted to see if there was anything they needed from me while I was there that could help with the visa, he stated that they had all the evidence they needed and that they would notify me when they went through our file if they needed anything else. On a different note, while I was waiting to go in I was watching people and to see what they had, I wrote down 25 people that I saw with blue or pink, or white or if I could not see what they got, here is a list as follows. Pink 6 Blue 4 White 2 could not see the papers on 13 of the 13, 4 looked happy, and 5 looked sad, the rest just walked out like nothing was wrong, it seems far from the 95% fail rate that was posted earlier so this might be good news for all of us in AP QUOTE (jeromebinh @ Oct 12 2009, 08:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (lindal24 @ Oct 9 2009, 11:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Those of us currently in AP at HCMC: FrednDaoHoney_____________1/17/2009 Vi&Art _____________________8/5/2009 JohnCali9 __________________8/6/2009 MichaelAndKha______________8/15/2009 JeromeBinh_________________8/20/2009 ToanTien___________________8/20/2009 Ly Trinh ___________________8/21/2009 Huong and Phung ___________9/8/2009 Those who are out of AP w/ results: Ituan ___________________8/10/2009 - 09/15/2009 - 36 days in AP - Denied Lindal24 ________________7/8/2009 - 10/7/2009 - 91 days in AP - APPROVED Please add yourself if you are currently in Administrative Processing "AP" (2nd blue slip). The initial blue slip (*IF you don't get pink) at the initial interview date IS NOT	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-13 08:12:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (lindal24 @ Oct 9 2009, 11:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Those of us currently in AP at HCMC: FrednDaoHoney_____________1/17/2009 Vi&Art _____________________8/5/2009 JohnCali9 __________________8/6/2009 MichaelAndKha______________8/15/2009 JeromeBinh_________________8/20/2009 ToanTien___________________8/20/2009 Ly Trinh ___________________8/21/2009 Huong and Phung ___________9/8/2009 Those who are out of AP w/ results: Ituan ___________________8/10/2009 - 09/15/2009 - 36 days in AP - Denied Lindal24 ________________7/8/2009 - 10/7/2009 - 91 days in AP - APPROVED Please add yourself if you are currently in Administrative Processing "AP" (2nd blue slip). The initial blue slip (*IF you don't get pink) at the initial interview date IS NOT	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-12 19:25:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (Huong and Phung @ Oct 12 2009, 11:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> so how did it go JeromeBinh? Hope it went well. busy celebrating? heheh have not went yet. Going today at 3:00 it is only 6:30 here now. I will keep you posted though Jerome	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-12 18:24:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (Huong and Phung @ Oct 11 2009, 02:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Did they keep everyone's Passport for those that are in AP? No	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-11 05:44:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	Great news Linda!! Congrats!! I am going there Tuesday, had a 2 hour delay in USA because of typhoon in Tokyo, then got delayed again in Tokyo, Finally got out of the airport at about 2 am should have been out at about 11:30 pm. Visa on arrival worked like a charm again, wont do it any other way any more. I have never heard of any CO calling and acting like they are someone else, if they did that and it got proved, I would almost guarantee they could be up poop creek without a paddle if you know what I mean. I would tell John to look into it and if he can prove that is what they are doing file a complaint. It is not only unethical, but more than not it is probably illegal as well. Jerome	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-08 23:53:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	That is great news!! Hope when I go there we can get that lucky!!	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-06 11:05:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	My two responses were very similar, but the one that they responded to that Binh wrote was much different. I think it is bull, how can they say they are not going out of order when one from 14 months gets approved and another from 2? THey just tell us that to shut us up. I hope I can get in next tuesday and talk with them. Jerome	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-05 19:47:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (luckytxn @ Oct 4 2009, 06:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Also to others about to go through the process and/or interview please do not fret so much. Just do the best one can is all that one can do. I had quite a few red flags and even had a few send me messages saying how I was going to be in AP and I screwed up something and I still got a pink and really in a decent time. Others have to so just because there are quite a few here in AP does not mean everyone will be in AP or even a majority. We discuss this because we are trying to figure out the whys and therefores and to help others. It is good to discuss this stuff. Good post!! I just think that all the new people will see all the posts when there is no real pattern and get worried, no need to go to a interview worried, if you are not confident then it will show. Our cases are not a guarentee that your case will be similar to ours, I for one feel that this post is not such a good post because of the worry factor, and the fact that we truly do not know if there is a pattern or not, and when people like luckytxn have someguarantee of the "red flags" that people think are red flags and get the pink it shows there is no real pattern, and no real reason to worry, but it is good to address these "SUSPECTED" red flags while you can. Keep up the faith and remember what works for one of us or does not work for one of us does not mean it will or will not work for you. Good luck to all and hopefully before long the people on AP will be getting good news! Jerome and Binh	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-04 18:12:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (ScottThuy @ Oct 3 2009, 11:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> A tennis team from Japan was going through security the same time I was and one of the kids had 2 jars of jelly in his carryon sportpak.. one would have thought it was a pound of plastic explosives... The poor kid... he spoke no english and the jelly looked so good.... they threw it all away and scared the ####### out of him... so make sure its all in checked bags.. Yeah, I have one bag that is devoted to the jelly and pickles, and I have pillows all around them with the other soft things on top, the tortillas, and jerky and candy as well, give it as much of a fighting chance as possible to make it there in one piece. I had it in a smaller bag and that bag inside my big bag, but when I lifted it it was pretty heavy so I repacked it all again and am planning on checking 2 bags then carrying on only my computer. I was going to bring jelly last trip but did not want to check a bag, this time I don't feel like running in the airports dragging baggage.	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-03 14:37:00