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Scott is correct on his point. If you are not worried about waiting, do it before you file, and take photos and front load with them and make it a big part of your time line. Don't worry about asking to many questions, we have all been there or we are there right now.
Jerome
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-09-29 21:42:00
Asia: East and PacificHere is my timeline that i sumbit and get second blue slip
QUOTE (Lý Trinh @ Aug 22 2009, 10:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Here is my timeline that i submit and get second blue slip

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LY C. NGUYEN
(address)
(phone #)

U.S. Consulate General
Immigrant Visa Section
4 Le Duan St., Dist. 1
Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam

Re: Timeline of relationship with my wife, name: TUYET TRINH THI TRAN
DOB: ** December 19**
Case #: HCM2009******

I, LY C. NGUYEN, DOB: ** December 19**, SNN: xxx-xx-xxxx, a citizen of the United Sates of America, am the husband of TUYET TRINH THI TRAN. The following is a sworn affidavit documenting the timeline of our relationship since 2 August 2008 to present.

Brief description of our relationship:
We were introduced to each other by Mrs. Loan and Mr. Phuc. My wife and Mrs. Loan were close friends from their childhood. Mrs. Loan, Mr. Phuc and I have been very close friends over years. I have been seeing Phuc and his wife (Loan) at their house for many times. I knew Trinh by her video and photos. I asked Loan and Phuc for their opinion about Trinh, both of them strongly recommended me to be friends with Trinh. Mrs. Loan often says that I have the same ways of thinking and hard work as Trinh. For that reason, I asked Mrs. Loan for Trinh’s phone number. Mrs. Loan says that she will get back with me on that. Couple days later Mrs. Loan gave me Trinh’s phone number, and Mrs. Loan told me that she had mentioned about me to Trinh already.

? 20 July 2008: Phuc and Loan invited me to their house at 2802 SE 82nd Ave. Apt#6, Portland, Oregon 97266 for a weekend meal with their family. During the dinner, Phuc and Loan played a video film about a wedding party of their relative in Vietnam, in which there was a photo of my wife, Trinh. Talking about the girl whose name is Trinh, Loan also showed me some other photos of Loan in her family album. I asked Loan if Trinh was still single and whether I could make friends with her. Loan told me that she would let me know later after she called to ask Trinh’s opinion and then she would give me her phone number.

? 26 July 2008: I invited Phuc and Loan to eat out at a Chinese restaurant, Jin Wah Restaurant at 8001 SE Powell Blvd. Suite# P. Portland, Oregon 97206. During the meal, I asked about their health and their business. Loan told me that she had contacted with Trinh and she agreed to give me her phone number so that we can get in touch and make friends with each other. I filed her phone number.

? 02 August 2008: The first time I called 84908864129 to Trinh at 10:44 pm, that was on Sunday morning in Vietnam. She was not surprised as Loan, her close friend had told her about me already. We started the conversation and introduced each other, exchanged information about our job and our family. We were both very happy as we had another new friend. During this first call, due to the international call, it was interrupted and I had to call back 3 times. We spend 42 minutes over the phone.

? 03 August 2008: The second time I called Trinh was at 03:57 am, that was the time I was on my way to work from my home. That was the time Trinh was just been back from the Church. We talked for about 23 minutes then I arrived at my company. I told her I would call back at another time as I had to work then. I wished her a good night and stopped the call and started my working day.

? 04 August 2008: I had 2 phone called to her. The first one was at 03:53 am. It lasted for about 27 minutes and then I started work. The second one was on the same date at 03:10 pm, and we had 20 minutes talking to each other. Trinh said that she would be very busy next week as she had to work overtime at her company. She promised to continue the chat next week.

? 12 + 14 August 2008: I called her back but she said she was still very busy so we could not talk much. She said she would call me when she finished her job.

? 15 August 2008: at 04 am, that was 06 pm in Vietnam, Trinh called me and then she hanged up so that I would call her back after that. I called her at 04:02 am. She told me about what she did during the past week. We talked to each other about 14 minutes and then we stopped as her family got prepared for the dinner.

? 16 August 2008 up to the end of August: We often contacted each other via phone, almost every day. We often talked about the subject of family. We exchanged information about life, our jobs.

? 01 September 2008: It was one month since we knew each other. I kept contact with her by phone. It was only one month but I found that I had fallen in love with her. I got to know that Trinh was born into a big family. Her family was not rich in terms of materials, but it was a truly happy family. Trinh is the oldest sister, so she knows how to take care of her little brothers and sisters. She studied and worked to support her family with her parents. That made me admire her and loved her more. I called her four times during the day with the total minutes up to 63.

? 07 September 2008: I called and told her that the following week I was very busy and had on time to contact her, not to wait for my call. When I finished my work, I would call her.

? 12 September 2008: I called her just to let her know that I was home after one week I was far away for forklift drill. I told her I would call her the next day.

? 13 September 2008: I called Trinh and she asked me about my forklift drill. We had about 20 minutes together.

? 14 September 2008 to 20 September 2008: During this time we talked to each other almost every day. I was very happy hearing her voice. When I was busy not calling her I felt something lost. I asked her if she was happy when getting my phone call. Trinh was happy when she had a boyfriend who took care and concerned about her life and her thought.

? 21 September 2008: I called her and started the conversation. I asked her if she had used internet. I said that she used internet at work just for company business. She had no internet at home. She said she would check if the network was available at her locality. She then gave me her two nick names for chatting via skype video.

? 30 September 2008: I called her. She told me that she had connected with internet already. I asked her if we could be on internet then. She turned on the computer and we talked and saw each other in person the first time. Though it was the first time but her face looked familiar to me for a long time. My first impression about her was that she was a friendly and honest girl. This made me love her more and more.

? 03 October 2008: I called her again. We got more and more familiar with each other. I told her that I missed her a lot and I could not sleep when I saw her via video chat the previous time. Her face always wandered in my mind to find something to connect with.

? 04 October 2008: I called her again. We talked to each other for a long time. I asked her about her ideal husband. She told me that she liked the kind of man who belongs to family, humorous, caring and especially child loving. A man that can she can confide in to build up a happy family. After almost half an hour hearing her telling me about her ideal husband, she asked me the same question about my ideal wife. I told her that what I need in a wife is not her riches or honors but a woman with a heart filled with love for her husband and their kids. I totally agreed with her as we all loved children. We are both northerners of Vietnam left for Christ to the South in 1954. We had many things in common especially family affairs. I found that Trinh is very skilled at cooking, especially foods of northerners. Our love were getting developed more and more. We spend 82 minutes over the phone.

? 05 October 2008 to 10 October 2008: We had phone calls almost every day. I asked her if she missed me. She stopped for a while and told me that she had the same feeling with me waiting for my call. Time flies and our love got developed more and more.

? 11 October 2008 to 18 October 2008: We kept contact very often. At this time we were not hesitant any more. We shared everything of life. We had no distance any more. When there was happiness or sadness, we often shared to each other. I found that I cannot lack the other better half, that is Trinh. After work, I was always thinking of Trinh and missing her. I called her to confide my feelings and listened to her nice voice.

? 19 October 2008: I called back to Trinh. She told me that the next day she would be in Vung Tau for a job interview. We talked for about 19 minutes then I arrived at work. I told her I would call again the next day to talk more.

? 20 October 2008: I made two phone calls. The first call was at 4 am. She told me she wanted to have another well paid job so she decided to go to Vung Tau for the interview. In fact at that time I loved Trinh very much and I did not want her to go very far working hard to earn a living. I told her that if she had difficulty I could be of help to her but she refused. This call we had 23 minutes together. The second call was at 5:7 pm. We had only 3 minutes then her phone battery faded. She gave me her friend’s phone number in Vung Tau and told me that I can call that number in case I cannot reach the cell phone.

? 21 October 2008: I called Trinh but I could not get connected. I waited until evening to make sure that she was there and I called her friend’s house. I started saying I love you and proposed to her over the phone. Because I was worried about her life. I felt sorry for her when she had to work her way through for a living. I wanted to take care of her every day. I wanted the rest of my life having Trinh beside me. I wanted Trinh to be my wife and the mother of my children. I love her and cannot live without her. She was surprised at my proposal, she paused for a few minutes and said that she loved me also and wanted to be besides me for the rest of her life as she understood my case that I have lived alone, without any brothers or sisters, or relatives besides and I take care of everything on my own. Trinh wanted to be beside me and shared part of my life. Before she hanged up the phone, she told that she agreed with my proposal and reminded me to take care of myself as I was already her better half.

? 22 October 2008 to 26 October 2008: after proposal we kept contact and talked over the phone. She asked me to manage time to call her parents to ask for their news and get a permit for our relationship.

? 09 November 2008: I called Trinh’s parents. She had told them about our relation. I asked them for our love and marriage. They told me that Trinh was old enough to make decisions about her own life. They did not force or forbid her about that. They always wish their daughter has a happy life. They said that if we really have a true love, they would support us to become husband and wife. That’s what we really wish for.

? 10 November 2008: I called her and we had a long talk. I told her that I wanted a wedding at the end of this year. The next year would be not good for my age. At that time we really wanted to be side by side together.

? 14 November 2008: after talking with Trinh, I called to talk to my father about our relation. After that my father called Trinh’s parents to discuss our love and asked them to take care of the wedding preparation as my father was far away. He said he would manage to be back Vietnam to be the host of the wedding ceremony.

? 15 November 2008: I bought an airfare for Vietnam at Asia Tour & Travel at 8211 N.E. Brazee, Suite F, Portland, OR 97220.

? 16 November 2008: at 11:39 pm before boarding at Portland airport, I called her. When I arrived at Seattle airport, WA I called her again to make her confident. She told me that she was very happy and nervous waiting to see me at Tan Son Nhat Airport.

? 18 November 2008: I arrived in Vietnam at 11:40 am. After finishing all check out procedures, I found her waiting me for a long time. It was only Trinh and me at the airport. After that Trinh took me to her house to see her parents. I stayed there until I came back to USA on 31 December 2008.

? 21 November 2008: after taking a few days for rest. I asked for a permit to take Trinh to Phuoc Hai to see my grandparents and relatives. I held my mother’s death anniversary in Chu Hai. We stayed there for two days. On the afternoon of 22nd day, we returned Trinh’s parents’ home.

? 24 November 2008: after asking for a permit form Trinh’s parents, we went to Dong Nai Province Department of Justice for marriage procedures. Due to the complicated procedures, I had to stay in Bien Hoa at Diamond hotel until 26 November 2008 to solve the problem.

? 28 November 2008: We went to Department of Justice for the interview and then we got an appointment for getting the certificate.

? 29 November 2008: Trinh’s mother took Trinh and me to Duc Long Church to see the priest for a Christian marriage procedure. After meeting all requirements for a marriage in a church as certificate of baptism, certificate of enforcement, certificate of introduction from US where I live certifying that I had not registered to get married to any one before and got the appointment. Trinh had to attend some lessons to fulfill the requirements. Our names were then announced in three consecutive Sunday church ceremony. The priest found no trouble and decided to hold the ceremony for us as per Church regulations.

? 02 December 2008: We went for photo taking at Oanh Oanh Studio in Thong Nhat District, Dong Nai Province.

? 03 December 2008: Trinh and I continued for a outdoor photo taking in Thac Giang Dien resort, Trang Bom District, Dong Nai Province.

? 05 December 2008: Trinh and I went to Bien Hoa for placing order of wedding invitation printing. We stayed in Bien Hoa that night and she took me out for sea foods and introduced me to some of her friends.

? 07 December 2008: Trinh and I went to Vung Tau for a birthday party of my old friend. We stayed in Vung Tau for 2 days.

? 09 December 2008: We return to Trinh’s house. Her parents took us to visit some of their relatives and grandparents.

? 10 December 2008: Trinh held my birthday party at her house.

? 11 December 2008: We went to rent wedding clothes at Hoa Hong Shop for our wedding ceremony.

? 12 December 2008: We went to Bien Hoa to get wedding invitation. We then bought wedding rings at PNJ shop in Bien Hoa City.

? 13 December 2008: Trinh and I went out to deliver wedding invitation letters.

? 14 December 2008: Trinh and I went to Phuoc Hai, Phuoc Tinh and Chu Hai to invite friends and relatives. We stayed at my grandparents’ in Phuoc Hai.

? 16 December 2008: We rent a car to go to the airport to pick up my father to bring him to Phuoc Hai. We stayed at my grandparents’ house at that night.

? 17 December 2008: Trinh, my father and my grandparents, my uncles and I went to Loc An cemetery. My father wanted to introduce the daughter-in-law to the ancestors of Nguyen family. We went back Trinh’s parents’ home in the afternoon of the same day.

? 19 December 2008: My father went to Trinh’s family to meet and discuss and finalize the wedding preparation. My father left for my grandparents’ in Phuoc Hai in the afternoon.

? 20 December 2008: At 6 am, Trinh and I were at Duc Long Church for a wedding preparation.

? 21 December 2008: The date we held the wedding ceremony at Duc Long Church hosted by Priest Joseph Nguyen Xuan Triet at 9 am. The wedding party was held in the campus of Duc Long Church. Our relatives, friends, colleagues, neighbors from both families were present at the party. My father from US was also present to be host of the wedding. In our wedding there were 4 khem fruits according to our homeland custom. Total guest was 450 people sitting in 45 tables.

? 22 December 2008: My close friend died of traffic accident. We had to visit and present condolences at Chu Hai Church. We went to Phuoc Hai to have meals with my grandparents. We stayed there for 2 days.

? 24 December 2008: My father had to come back USA. We helped to arrange the luggage and rented a car to take my father to the airport. We went to An Dong market after that and bought some things for my return to USA. We came back Trinh’s home for a rest on the same day.

? 27 December 2008 to 28 December 2008: As we did not have much free time, we spent our honeymoon in Binh Chau Hot Mineral Water resort. We then came back Trinh’s parents to stay there until we came back to USA.

? 31 December 2008: My wife along with her brothers and sisters, her grandparents saw me off to USA. (Total days of my first return to Vietnam was 44 days).

? 01 January 2009: I arrived at my home in USA. I called my wife and her parents to let them know that I was home safely.

? Upon coming back to USA, we often kept contact via telephone and letters. Due to my long time in Vietnam, I was very busy when I came back, I called her more than I wrote to her. We often kept contact via telephone every day. My wife often woke me up for work every morning.

Since 03 January 2009 to end of June 2009: We often kept contact via phones and post letters. Total letters she got during this time was 29 letters. My wife sent to me 23 letters.

? 29 January 2009: I sent my first letter to my wife and I sent my guarantee letter to US immigrant department.

? 25 March 2009: I missed my wife so much so I decided to take my annual leave to return Vietnam to see my wife. I bought a ticket at Asia Tour & Travel at 8211 N.E. Brazee, Suite F, Portland, OR 97220 to be back to Vietnam on 01 July 2009 and came back to USA on 15 July 2009.

? 02 June 2009: I got a invitation letter for interview sent by email from visa center. I got to company to ask for more leave. I got a permit to stop work until 28 July 2009.

? 03 July 2009: I arrived in Vietnam at 10:00 am. My wife and her family saw me at the airport. We went back her home after that.

? 05 July 2009: I held my mother’s death anniversary at my uncle’s house in Chu Hai.

? 07 July 2009: at 1 pm, we went to Health Service of Ho Chi Minh City – International Health Quarantine Center at 40 Nguyen Van Troi, Phu Nhuan District, Ho Chi Minh City to complete the vaccination as requested by US Consulate. We went to Cho Ray hospital for a health check appointment after that.

? 15 July 2009: 6:30 am I took my wife to Cho Ray hospital at 201B Nguyen Chi Thanh, Dist. 5, Ho Chi Minh City. At 9 am, my wife completed all procedures and got an appointment from the doctor. We got the result on the next day so we stayed in a hotel at that night.

? 16 July 2009: We got the result at 03 pm and came back home.

? 18 July 2009: We went to Vung Tau with my wife’s family. We climbed to Tao Phung mountain where there is a Christ statue. We went for a sea bath and had lunch at Bien Dong at the back yard of Vung Tau city.

? 23 July 2009: Due to the long journey, we went to Ho Chi Minh one day in advance for the interview on time. We stayed in a small hotel in Tan Binh District.

? 24 July 2009: At 7 am we were present at 4 Le Duan, Dist. 1, Ho Chi Minh City, USA Consulate to stand in line to get in. I waited for her and the interview result outside. After 4 hours my wife came back with a sad face. I asked her why and we had to supplement more documents. I consoled her and came back home to complete the requests given in the paper.

? 25 July 2009: I scanned the appointment of the US and sent to my company to ask for more leave. I got the reply from my company that I can stay until 26 August 2009.

? 26 July 2009 to 05 August 2009: We spent all time to sit down and remember and wrote down the timeline of our relationship. And we tried to contact my ex-wife to get the information as requested by the US Consulate.
My wife is all of my life and the one I love most. Moreover I want to live beside my wife until the rest of our life. My wife is always beside me and encourages me in everything, sharing all happiness and sorrow in our life. One more thing is the happy family in which all members love and take care of each other. That is all I find in my wife. We hope to be reunited and start a new life in USA.

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Name Signature

Sworn to and signed before me this ______ day of _____________, 2009



here is the link of our second blue slip
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Is it 14 pages?


QUOTE (Lý Trinh @ Aug 22 2009, 10:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Here is my timeline that i submit and get second blue slip

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LY C. NGUYEN
(address)
(phone #)

U.S. Consulate General
Immigrant Visa Section
4 Le Duan St., Dist. 1
Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam

Re: Timeline of relationship with my wife, name: TUYET TRINH THI TRAN
DOB: ** December 19**
Case #: HCM2009******

I, LY C. NGUYEN, DOB: ** December 19**, SNN: xxx-xx-xxxx, a citizen of the United Sates of America, am the husband of TUYET TRINH THI TRAN. The following is a sworn affidavit documenting the timeline of our relationship since 2 August 2008 to present.

Brief description of our relationship:
We were introduced to each other by Mrs. Loan and Mr. Phuc. My wife and Mrs. Loan were close friends from their childhood. Mrs. Loan, Mr. Phuc and I have been very close friends over years. I have been seeing Phuc and his wife (Loan) at their house for many times. I knew Trinh by her video and photos. I asked Loan and Phuc for their opinion about Trinh, both of them strongly recommended me to be friends with Trinh. Mrs. Loan often says that I have the same ways of thinking and hard work as Trinh. For that reason, I asked Mrs. Loan for Trinh’s phone number. Mrs. Loan says that she will get back with me on that. Couple days later Mrs. Loan gave me Trinh’s phone number, and Mrs. Loan told me that she had mentioned about me to Trinh already.

? 20 July 2008: Phuc and Loan invited me to their house at 2802 SE 82nd Ave. Apt#6, Portland, Oregon 97266 for a weekend meal with their family. During the dinner, Phuc and Loan played a video film about a wedding party of their relative in Vietnam, in which there was a photo of my wife, Trinh. Talking about the girl whose name is Trinh, Loan also showed me some other photos of Loan in her family album. I asked Loan if Trinh was still single and whether I could make friends with her. Loan told me that she would let me know later after she called to ask Trinh’s opinion and then she would give me her phone number.

? 26 July 2008: I invited Phuc and Loan to eat out at a Chinese restaurant, Jin Wah Restaurant at 8001 SE Powell Blvd. Suite# P. Portland, Oregon 97206. During the meal, I asked about their health and their business. Loan told me that she had contacted with Trinh and she agreed to give me her phone number so that we can get in touch and make friends with each other. I filed her phone number.

? 02 August 2008: The first time I called 84908864129 to Trinh at 10:44 pm, that was on Sunday morning in Vietnam. She was not surprised as Loan, her close friend had told her about me already. We started the conversation and introduced each other, exchanged information about our job and our family. We were both very happy as we had another new friend. During this first call, due to the international call, it was interrupted and I had to call back 3 times. We spend 42 minutes over the phone.

? 03 August 2008: The second time I called Trinh was at 03:57 am, that was the time I was on my way to work from my home. That was the time Trinh was just been back from the Church. We talked for about 23 minutes then I arrived at my company. I told her I would call back at another time as I had to work then. I wished her a good night and stopped the call and started my working day.

? 04 August 2008: I had 2 phone called to her. The first one was at 03:53 am. It lasted for about 27 minutes and then I started work. The second one was on the same date at 03:10 pm, and we had 20 minutes talking to each other. Trinh said that she would be very busy next week as she had to work overtime at her company. She promised to continue the chat next week.

? 12 + 14 August 2008: I called her back but she said she was still very busy so we could not talk much. She said she would call me when she finished her job.

? 15 August 2008: at 04 am, that was 06 pm in Vietnam, Trinh called me and then she hanged up so that I would call her back after that. I called her at 04:02 am. She told me about what she did during the past week. We talked to each other about 14 minutes and then we stopped as her family got prepared for the dinner.

? 16 August 2008 up to the end of August: We often contacted each other via phone, almost every day. We often talked about the subject of family. We exchanged information about life, our jobs.

? 01 September 2008: It was one month since we knew each other. I kept contact with her by phone. It was only one month but I found that I had fallen in love with her. I got to know that Trinh was born into a big family. Her family was not rich in terms of materials, but it was a truly happy family. Trinh is the oldest sister, so she knows how to take care of her little brothers and sisters. She studied and worked to support her family with her parents. That made me admire her and loved her more. I called her four times during the day with the total minutes up to 63.

? 07 September 2008: I called and told her that the following week I was very busy and had on time to contact her, not to wait for my call. When I finished my work, I would call her.

? 12 September 2008: I called her just to let her know that I was home after one week I was far away for forklift drill. I told her I would call her the next day.

? 13 September 2008: I called Trinh and she asked me about my forklift drill. We had about 20 minutes together.

? 14 September 2008 to 20 September 2008: During this time we talked to each other almost every day. I was very happy hearing her voice. When I was busy not calling her I felt something lost. I asked her if she was happy when getting my phone call. Trinh was happy when she had a boyfriend who took care and concerned about her life and her thought.

? 21 September 2008: I called her and started the conversation. I asked her if she had used internet. I said that she used internet at work just for company business. She had no internet at home. She said she would check if the network was available at her locality. She then gave me her two nick names for chatting via skype video.

? 30 September 2008: I called her. She told me that she had connected with internet already. I asked her if we could be on internet then. She turned on the computer and we talked and saw each other in person the first time. Though it was the first time but her face looked familiar to me for a long time. My first impression about her was that she was a friendly and honest girl. This made me love her more and more.

? 03 October 2008: I called her again. We got more and more familiar with each other. I told her that I missed her a lot and I could not sleep when I saw her via video chat the previous time. Her face always wandered in my mind to find something to connect with.

? 04 October 2008: I called her again. We talked to each other for a long time. I asked her about her ideal husband. She told me that she liked the kind of man who belongs to family, humorous, caring and especially child loving. A man that can she can confide in to build up a happy family. After almost half an hour hearing her telling me about her ideal husband, she asked me the same question about my ideal wife. I told her that what I need in a wife is not her riches or honors but a woman with a heart filled with love for her husband and their kids. I totally agreed with her as we all loved children. We are both northerners of Vietnam left for Christ to the South in 1954. We had many things in common especially family affairs. I found that Trinh is very skilled at cooking, especially foods of northerners. Our love were getting developed more and more. We spend 82 minutes over the phone.

? 05 October 2008 to 10 October 2008: We had phone calls almost every day. I asked her if she missed me. She stopped for a while and told me that she had the same feeling with me waiting for my call. Time flies and our love got developed more and more.

? 11 October 2008 to 18 October 2008: We kept contact very often. At this time we were not hesitant any more. We shared everything of life. We had no distance any more. When there was happiness or sadness, we often shared to each other. I found that I cannot lack the other better half, that is Trinh. After work, I was always thinking of Trinh and missing her. I called her to confide my feelings and listened to her nice voice.

? 19 October 2008: I called back to Trinh. She told me that the next day she would be in Vung Tau for a job interview. We talked for about 19 minutes then I arrived at work. I told her I would call again the next day to talk more.

? 20 October 2008: I made two phone calls. The first call was at 4 am. She told me she wanted to have another well paid job so she decided to go to Vung Tau for the interview. In fact at that time I loved Trinh very much and I did not want her to go very far working hard to earn a living. I told her that if she had difficulty I could be of help to her but she refused. This call we had 23 minutes together. The second call was at 5:7 pm. We had only 3 minutes then her phone battery faded. She gave me her friend’s phone number in Vung Tau and told me that I can call that number in case I cannot reach the cell phone.

? 21 October 2008: I called Trinh but I could not get connected. I waited until evening to make sure that she was there and I called her friend’s house. I started saying I love you and proposed to her over the phone. Because I was worried about her life. I felt sorry for her when she had to work her way through for a living. I wanted to take care of her every day. I wanted the rest of my life having Trinh beside me. I wanted Trinh to be my wife and the mother of my children. I love her and cannot live without her. She was surprised at my proposal, she paused for a few minutes and said that she loved me also and wanted to be besides me for the rest of her life as she understood my case that I have lived alone, without any brothers or sisters, or relatives besides and I take care of everything on my own. Trinh wanted to be beside me and shared part of my life. Before she hanged up the phone, she told that she agreed with my proposal and reminded me to take care of myself as I was already her better half.

? 22 October 2008 to 26 October 2008: after proposal we kept contact and talked over the phone. She asked me to manage time to call her parents to ask for their news and get a permit for our relationship.

? 09 November 2008: I called Trinh’s parents. She had told them about our relation. I asked them for our love and marriage. They told me that Trinh was old enough to make decisions about her own life. They did not force or forbid her about that. They always wish their daughter has a happy life. They said that if we really have a true love, they would support us to become husband and wife. That’s what we really wish for.

? 10 November 2008: I called her and we had a long talk. I told her that I wanted a wedding at the end of this year. The next year would be not good for my age. At that time we really wanted to be side by side together.

? 14 November 2008: after talking with Trinh, I called to talk to my father about our relation. After that my father called Trinh’s parents to discuss our love and asked them to take care of the wedding preparation as my father was far away. He said he would manage to be back Vietnam to be the host of the wedding ceremony.

? 15 November 2008: I bought an airfare for Vietnam at Asia Tour & Travel at 8211 N.E. Brazee, Suite F, Portland, OR 97220.

? 16 November 2008: at 11:39 pm before boarding at Portland airport, I called her. When I arrived at Seattle airport, WA I called her again to make her confident. She told me that she was very happy and nervous waiting to see me at Tan Son Nhat Airport.

? 18 November 2008: I arrived in Vietnam at 11:40 am. After finishing all check out procedures, I found her waiting me for a long time. It was only Trinh and me at the airport. After that Trinh took me to her house to see her parents. I stayed there until I came back to USA on 31 December 2008.

? 21 November 2008: after taking a few days for rest. I asked for a permit to take Trinh to Phuoc Hai to see my grandparents and relatives. I held my mother’s death anniversary in Chu Hai. We stayed there for two days. On the afternoon of 22nd day, we returned Trinh’s parents’ home.

? 24 November 2008: after asking for a permit form Trinh’s parents, we went to Dong Nai Province Department of Justice for marriage procedures. Due to the complicated procedures, I had to stay in Bien Hoa at Diamond hotel until 26 November 2008 to solve the problem.

? 28 November 2008: We went to Department of Justice for the interview and then we got an appointment for getting the certificate.

? 29 November 2008: Trinh’s mother took Trinh and me to Duc Long Church to see the priest for a Christian marriage procedure. After meeting all requirements for a marriage in a church as certificate of baptism, certificate of enforcement, certificate of introduction from US where I live certifying that I had not registered to get married to any one before and got the appointment. Trinh had to attend some lessons to fulfill the requirements. Our names were then announced in three consecutive Sunday church ceremony. The priest found no trouble and decided to hold the ceremony for us as per Church regulations.

? 02 December 2008: We went for photo taking at Oanh Oanh Studio in Thong Nhat District, Dong Nai Province.

? 03 December 2008: Trinh and I continued for a outdoor photo taking in Thac Giang Dien resort, Trang Bom District, Dong Nai Province.

? 05 December 2008: Trinh and I went to Bien Hoa for placing order of wedding invitation printing. We stayed in Bien Hoa that night and she took me out for sea foods and introduced me to some of her friends.

? 07 December 2008: Trinh and I went to Vung Tau for a birthday party of my old friend. We stayed in Vung Tau for 2 days.

? 09 December 2008: We return to Trinh’s house. Her parents took us to visit some of their relatives and grandparents.

? 10 December 2008: Trinh held my birthday party at her house.

? 11 December 2008: We went to rent wedding clothes at Hoa Hong Shop for our wedding ceremony.

? 12 December 2008: We went to Bien Hoa to get wedding invitation. We then bought wedding rings at PNJ shop in Bien Hoa City.

? 13 December 2008: Trinh and I went out to deliver wedding invitation letters.

? 14 December 2008: Trinh and I went to Phuoc Hai, Phuoc Tinh and Chu Hai to invite friends and relatives. We stayed at my grandparents’ in Phuoc Hai.

? 16 December 2008: We rent a car to go to the airport to pick up my father to bring him to Phuoc Hai. We stayed at my grandparents’ house at that night.

? 17 December 2008: Trinh, my father and my grandparents, my uncles and I went to Loc An cemetery. My father wanted to introduce the daughter-in-law to the ancestors of Nguyen family. We went back Trinh’s parents’ home in the afternoon of the same day.

? 19 December 2008: My father went to Trinh’s family to meet and discuss and finalize the wedding preparation. My father left for my grandparents’ in Phuoc Hai in the afternoon.

? 20 December 2008: At 6 am, Trinh and I were at Duc Long Church for a wedding preparation.

? 21 December 2008: The date we held the wedding ceremony at Duc Long Church hosted by Priest Joseph Nguyen Xuan Triet at 9 am. The wedding party was held in the campus of Duc Long Church. Our relatives, friends, colleagues, neighbors from both families were present at the party. My father from US was also present to be host of the wedding. In our wedding there were 4 khem fruits according to our homeland custom. Total guest was 450 people sitting in 45 tables.

? 22 December 2008: My close friend died of traffic accident. We had to visit and present condolences at Chu Hai Church. We went to Phuoc Hai to have meals with my grandparents. We stayed there for 2 days.

? 24 December 2008: My father had to come back USA. We helped to arrange the luggage and rented a car to take my father to the airport. We went to An Dong market after that and bought some things for my return to USA. We came back Trinh’s home for a rest on the same day.

? 27 December 2008 to 28 December 2008: As we did not have much free time, we spent our honeymoon in Binh Chau Hot Mineral Water resort. We then came back Trinh’s parents to stay there until we came back to USA.

? 31 December 2008: My wife along with her brothers and sisters, her grandparents saw me off to USA. (Total days of my first return to Vietnam was 44 days).

? 01 January 2009: I arrived at my home in USA. I called my wife and her parents to let them know that I was home safely.

? Upon coming back to USA, we often kept contact via telephone and letters. Due to my long time in Vietnam, I was very busy when I came back, I called her more than I wrote to her. We often kept contact via telephone every day. My wife often woke me up for work every morning.

Since 03 January 2009 to end of June 2009: We often kept contact via phones and post letters. Total letters she got during this time was 29 letters. My wife sent to me 23 letters.

? 29 January 2009: I sent my first letter to my wife and I sent my guarantee letter to US immigrant department.

? 25 March 2009: I missed my wife so much so I decided to take my annual leave to return Vietnam to see my wife. I bought a ticket at Asia Tour & Travel at 8211 N.E. Brazee, Suite F, Portland, OR 97220 to be back to Vietnam on 01 July 2009 and came back to USA on 15 July 2009.

? 02 June 2009: I got a invitation letter for interview sent by email from visa center. I got to company to ask for more leave. I got a permit to stop work until 28 July 2009.

? 03 July 2009: I arrived in Vietnam at 10:00 am. My wife and her family saw me at the airport. We went back her home after that.

? 05 July 2009: I held my mother’s death anniversary at my uncle’s house in Chu Hai.

? 07 July 2009: at 1 pm, we went to Health Service of Ho Chi Minh City – International Health Quarantine Center at 40 Nguyen Van Troi, Phu Nhuan District, Ho Chi Minh City to complete the vaccination as requested by US Consulate. We went to Cho Ray hospital for a health check appointment after that.

? 15 July 2009: 6:30 am I took my wife to Cho Ray hospital at 201B Nguyen Chi Thanh, Dist. 5, Ho Chi Minh City. At 9 am, my wife completed all procedures and got an appointment from the doctor. We got the result on the next day so we stayed in a hotel at that night.

? 16 July 2009: We got the result at 03 pm and came back home.

? 18 July 2009: We went to Vung Tau with my wife’s family. We climbed to Tao Phung mountain where there is a Christ statue. We went for a sea bath and had lunch at Bien Dong at the back yard of Vung Tau city.

? 23 July 2009: Due to the long journey, we went to Ho Chi Minh one day in advance for the interview on time. We stayed in a small hotel in Tan Binh District.

? 24 July 2009: At 7 am we were present at 4 Le Duan, Dist. 1, Ho Chi Minh City, USA Consulate to stand in line to get in. I waited for her and the interview result outside. After 4 hours my wife came back with a sad face. I asked her why and we had to supplement more documents. I consoled her and came back home to complete the requests given in the paper.

? 25 July 2009: I scanned the appointment of the US and sent to my company to ask for more leave. I got the reply from my company that I can stay until 26 August 2009.

? 26 July 2009 to 05 August 2009: We spent all time to sit down and remember and wrote down the timeline of our relationship. And we tried to contact my ex-wife to get the information as requested by the US Consulate.
My wife is all of my life and the one I love most. Moreover I want to live beside my wife until the rest of our life. My wife is always beside me and encourages me in everything, sharing all happiness and sorrow in our life. One more thing is the happy family in which all members love and take care of each other. That is all I find in my wife. We hope to be reunited and start a new life in USA.

--- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- ---



___________________________ ___________________________
Name Signature

Sworn to and signed before me this ______ day of _____________, 2009



here is the link of our second blue slip
http://www.visajourn...cture1_copy.jpg


Is it 14 pages?

BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-08-27 19:08:00
VietnamHCMC Interview roll call
QUOTE (ScottThuy @ Sep 13 2009, 09:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Updated list:
Those in AP at HCMC:
FrednDaoHoney_____________1/?/2009
Lindal24 ___________________7/8/2009
JohnCali9 ___________________8/6/2009
Ituan ______________________8/10/2009
Vi&Art _____________________8/?/2009
JeromeBinh_________________ 8/20/2009
Ly Trinh ____________________8/21/2009
Huong and Phung ____________9/8/2009

Anyone see the trend here? July seems to have been a bad time to interview for many. Based on the completed timelines Everyone that interviewed after Jerome is approved except Huong and Josephs, but Josephs had the medical issue and were given a blue requesting medical..likely a pink when medical is provided.


Yeah I know that is why i wish there was something we could do, or say or even explain our thoughts about this to. I know it looks strange and I am sure that in the same month of July there were many pinks. Binh even said as much, but it still does not make any of us that got the blue feel better. I just wish we could at least complain to someone if not to get anything changed to at least vent to someone that we would feel could do something. You know what I mean?

Jerome
jeromebinhMaleVietnam2009-09-13 17:02:00
VietnamHCMC Interview roll call
QUOTE (ScottThuy @ Sep 12 2009, 10:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (bryonm4 @ Sep 12 2009, 12:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you want to see whats in the mind of the CO the following link is a good article

http://www.ilw.com/a...8-seminara.shtm

A good article, but I must say that I really disagree with the authors idea on K-1 visas being abolished. I truly think they should do more interviews with both the USC as well as the SO to get a better picture of the relationship and avoid the AP BS.... I am a firm believer in the idea.... "why put off for tomorrow what you can do today?" If they have both parties there, why not do the interview of both parties and get a good idea of what the deal is and get it approved or denied in one day.... it really amazes me that the USC is not welcome into the consulate (A US refuge abroad) when the case is being evaluated... they must wait accross the street. That truly makes no sense.... its like reading a book and one of the important chapters, or a few pages from each chapter, is on a table accross the room and wont be read.... the full story cant be known... if they truly go by the ideology that "if the usc believes it, then it is real" why not bring us into the loop?


I agree with you Scott, I also feel that if the sponser is not there that they should have some sort of interview in the states before the fiancee's view and then let the person over here doing the interview send his/her opnions or transcripts over there for the Co in HCMC. This way they would at least get to hear both sides.
jeromebinhMaleVietnam2009-09-13 16:58:00
VietnamHCMC Interview roll call
QUOTE (ScottThuy @ Sep 8 2009, 04:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Since there are so many stuck in HCMC AP it may be helpful to have a discussion to let everyone know were they are in relation to others in the same situation….
Those in AP at HCMC:
Lindal24 7/8/2009
JohnCali 8/6/2009
Ituan 8/10/2009
JeromeBinh 8/20/2009
Ly Trinh 8/21/2009
Huong and Phung 9/8/2009
Michaelandluyen ?
Han & James ? no word since 7/6 interview…..


Let the others there know what you have heard since the blue slip and this way it may not be such a painful wait.... there are at least 6 couples in the same boat at the moment....


We know there are hundreds od people in HCMC got blue too and they are waiting for AP. Most of them are K1 and CR1. I wonder what future interviews will be if they had loads of cases like these? Binh.

jeromebinhMaleVietnam2009-09-11 09:22:00
VietnamHCMC Interview roll call
I have sent 2 separate emails to the Consulate, and I have gotten one response. Each time I send in a message I reply with the last one I sent this way they can see each letter if they choose. It is a hard road to hold, and we all need to remain strong. Good luck to all!
Jerome
jeromebinhMaleVietnam2009-09-08 17:18:00
USCIS Service CentersK 1 Visa

Does anyone know how to actually talk to a human at the Vermont Service Center


It is next to impossible. What it takes is time and patience, any number you have call it, and ask to be put through to where you want to talk, or to give you the number. I did this when I was trying to find out status on my return and how to argue their decision. It took me about 2 hours, I wish I still had my notes, and I would just give you the number, but it took me something like 8 different numbers to finially get someone to talk to, then they could not give me any information that I needed. Good luck, just dont give up. Jerome and Binh
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2010-02-22 15:09:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusWebCam with limited Russian connection speed
QUOTE (johnj @ Aug 16 2009, 11:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey Russian, Belarus and Ukraine Members;

I tried my first real venture with a webcam. Of course, speeds in Russia are slow so it is not true video. I am sure most of you have been using webcams for months if not years. I must admit, this was great fun. I have not see Natalya since my last trip, almost two months ago. Seeing her on webcam reminded my how sexy she is, reminded me of her beautiful smile and reminded me of her home and her room.

What have been your experiences with webcams? Other than chats, what other uses (related to our SO's) are there for webcams?


Hi, I am from Vietnam. I am Jerome's fiancee. I love the way my fiace show me the webcam around his garden and his kitchen. It seems like I am with him all the time while he is cooking or he is palying with puppies in the garden. My fiance plants lots of trees such as pears, apples and flowers such as roses and honeysuckles. He is walking around with the laptop and talk to me on yahoo voice and his neighbours thought he was crazy because they thought he talked to himself. We fall in love with each other via cam. We talk and laugh via cam twice a day. we know each other routines. We can even watch game shows on TV or talk to my friends in The U.S via his telephone speakers. Lots of things by using cam feature. More and more, find out by yourself!

BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-08-18 10:21:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusVonnage is free in Russia!!
QUOTE (Steve S @ Aug 29 2009, 12:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This sounds good if you are calling to a landline. However, if you want to call to a mobile phone in Russia, that will cost a whopping 8 cents per minute, on top of the monthly fee with one-year contract. I have looked into Skype, MagicJack and various other options, but my fiancee often talk when she is out of the home and on her mobile phone, so the best option I have found is to use a calling card -- Diamond Europe or Red Tiger. For $10 we can talk for a little more than two hours. It is cheaper than this to talk with someone in Moscow or St. Petersburg.


If you look at the deal Vonnage has there is no charge to mobile phones in Russia, at least that is what it says. And even if it does if it is only 8 cents that is better than a calling card
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-08-29 17:56:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusVonnage is free in Russia!!
Hello all! I have Vonnage phone, and I wanted to let all of the people with Russian fiancé's that Vonnage now offers free phone calls to Russia on their call all over the worked plan for free. This is a great deal, and I am sure that many of you would like to know this information. Instead of hundred dollar plus phone bills you can talk for over a hundred hours a month for only $25 I just wish they had that feature for Vietnam sad.gif Good luck to all of you and your visa's!!!!!
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-08-29 08:04:00
Chinamoney in bank
I just want to ask at the interview if it is required a big sum of money must have in the bank otherwise the visa is denied??? Thanks.
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-05-12 10:22:00
Asia: SouthVisa fee paid in citibank of HCMC. Is it right?
Is the citibank HCMC at 115 Nguyen Hue Street, SunWah Tower?

Thanks.
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam5/21/2009 8:40
Asia: East and PacificAnyone use a good Van Phong Dich Vu place in Ho Chi Minh City?
QUOTE (Dai_VN @ May 12 2009, 11:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Can anyone give any good recommendations on which office does immigration (Van Phong dich vu) help to prepare out documents and prepare my wife for the interview that's coming up. I didn't plan on using one of those services but since they gave me short notice, since my expedite request was granted for medical emergency, that my interview is coming up I would like to get as much help as I can. If you used one can you give me a name, address and maybe phone number if you have it. I appreciate all your help.

Also, my appointment letter has not come in the mail yet and I want my wife to get the medical examination done as soon as possible, is it possible to get the medical examination with out the appointment letter?


-Dai_VN


So did you use Van Phong Dich Vu for your wife?
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-06-01 09:01:00
Asia: East and PacificHCM Visa Approved!
QUOTE (toddandhien @ May 29 2009, 04:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sorry for the late post but we had internet access issues until now...

Hien's interview on May 27 went very smoothly and she got PINK!!! Wow, we are SOOOOO Happy!! A few details and then the list of questions:

We arrived at the consulate at about 5:45 AM. Her interview slip said 9:30 but everyone can go in when they open the doors. At 6:30, the doors on the far right opened and she was first in line on the immigrant visa side.

She was interviewed by an american guy with a male VN translator. She was approved and back out on the sidewalk at 9:30 where I was waiting. Interview lasted between 10 and 15 minutes. The CO was very cordial and she was treated well throughout the whole process when inside the consulate.

She was not asked if she spoke English. They just launched into the interview in VN and without realizing it she was answering in VN. Halfway through, she realized she was speaking VN and switched to answering in English because many answers were easier to give in English. All the questions kept coming in Vietnamese through the translator, even when she answered in English. That was kind of good because it prevented any misunderstandings on her part and she did not have to have questions repeated.

First thing they asked for was pictures before any questions. She gave them ALL of our pictures. We had Dinh Hon pictures separated from other pictures together (in chronological order). He looked at the Dinh Hon photos but the other 100 pictures together he just fanned through with his thumb and then handed them all back.

He did not ask for ANY evidence that she brought with her. However, I had placed a notarized copy of our timeline in the package of info submitted at the beginning with the I-134, birth certificates, etc. She saw him looking at the timeline while he was interviewing her. I had also placed in the original package a notarized statement of my current residence and my ex-wife's, along with copies of bills showing that we live at separate addresses.

She can pick up her visa on June 3 (1 week wait). We will leave VN together on June 7 after a big Bon Voyage party at her family home in Hau Loc on June 6. POE SFO on June 7. OK, now the questions:

Interview Questions

Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam
May 27, 2009

1. What is your fiance’s name?
2. When did you meet him?
3. How did you meet him?
4. Was he married before?
5. How many times was he married?
6. Do you know why they got a divorce?
7. When did they get divorced?
8. How many children does he have?
9. What are their names?
10. How old are they?
11. Where do they live?
12. How often does he see them?
13. Where does he work?
14. How long has he worked there?
15. What does he do for work?
16. Where does he live?
17. Can you describe the town he lives in?
18. What are his hobbies?
19. Why did he come to Vietnam so many times? (I came several times for work and many more times to see Hien)
20. Is he working in Vietnam now?
21. Where do his parents live?
22. What are their names?
23. Does he live with his parents?
24. Where have you traveled together?
25. Do you have any pictures together outside Vietnam?
26. Do you have any family in the US?
27. What do you do for work?
28. What did you do for work before?
29. Where do you live now?

I agree completely with ErikandChinh's comments in an earlier post. Confidence in the interview and prep before are certainly keys to success. I firmly believe that when in applicant comes in well-prepared, confident and in love, they can see it/feel it and it makes an impression.

Best of luck to all with upcoming interviews! THINK PINK!!!!


COULD YOU SHOW HOW TO DO THE TIMELINE? WE ARE NOT CLEAR. THANKS.


BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-06-09 00:42:00
Asia: East and PacificWhat documents requested in packet 4?
QUOTE (johncali9 @ Jun 8 2009, 09:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (jeromebinh @ Jun 8 2009, 05:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (johncali9 @ Jun 7 2009, 04:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hello JoromeBinh
do you have receiver the packet4 yet please let me know ,i think you me same date to mail in Co HCMC
Thank's


IT HAS BEEN 3 WEEKS SINCE WE SENT PACKET 3 BACK ON MAY 19 2009. I THINK IT TAKES 2 TO 3 MONTHS TO RECIEVE PACKET 4 AROUND JULY OR AUGUST I THINK. HOW ABOUT YOU? YOU NEED GIAY KHAI SINH ORIGINAL AND GIAY XAC NHAN TINH TRANG HON NHAN ALSO.

yes i do need those and i did not p#4 yet



WHEN IS YOUR INTERVIEW. MINE IS JULY 23 2009.
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-06-11 06:12:00
Asia: East and PacificWhat documents requested in packet 4?
QUOTE (johncali9 @ Jun 7 2009, 04:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hello JoromeBinh
do you have receiver the packet4 yet please let me know ,i think you me same date to mail in Co HCMC
Thank's


IT HAS BEEN 3 WEEKS SINCE WE SENT PACKET 3 BACK ON MAY 19 2009. I THINK IT TAKES 2 TO 3 MONTHS TO RECIEVE PACKET 4 AROUND JULY OR AUGUST I THINK. HOW ABOUT YOU? YOU NEED GIAY KHAI SINH ORIGINAL AND GIAY XAC NHAN TINH TRANG HON NHAN ALSO.

BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-06-08 07:40:00
Asia: East and PacificWhat documents requested in packet 4?
QUOTE (jeromebinh @ Jun 6 2009, 10:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Could you please tell me what documents beside ones requested in packet 3 such as original birth certificate, Li Lich tu phap etc.. What else does the Consulate in HCMC asked us for more documents? Our case is K1 visa.

Thanks a million!


BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-06-06 19:26:00
Asia: East and PacificWhat documents requested in packet 4?
Could you please tell me what documents beside ones requested in packet 3 such as original birth certificate, Li Lich tu phap etc.. What else does the Consulate in HCMC asked us for more documents?

Thanks a million!
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-06-06 09:28:00
Asia: East and Pacificpacket 4 received today
We got packet 4, interview date July 23, 2009. JohnCali, have you got it?
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-06-11 05:43:00
Asia: East and Pacifictimeline?
I have heard about timeline notarized. I do not understand this, please explain. Thanks.
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-06-08 08:59:00
Asia: East and PacificK1 Approved - Pink Pink Pink
QUOTE (Anh map @ Jun 10 2009, 12:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wonderful. Congrats to the both of you!!



Anh map,

I have no clue of timeline? please tell us what it is and how to do it?
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-06-10 18:43:00
Asia: East and PacificK1 Approved - Pink Pink Pink
QUOTE (Matthew&Huong @ Jun 10 2009, 04:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
OK thanks all for their kindness, now here's the story from Huong's perspective ---

Huong went into the interview with ALOT of evidence, more than anyone else either of us saw, she filled a Samsonite luggage bag with paper. she organized it by category and everything was in chronological order within the category as well. she printed out all of our emails and chats, thousands of pages, and was extremely ready to show anything they asked for. One very important point - thanks to some research she did on VJ and other sites, I had sent via Fedex a notarized TIMELINE including the interview date and updated personal statement regarding our relationship two week before the interview. Huong recognized immediately the interviewer had attached that entire pkg including the Fedex Bill to her paperwork, and many of his questions were connected to what I wrote in those pages. Also something that helped very much was that several times I had played the part of the interviewer in the days leading up to my flight and she got comfortable talking about these details in English - its a very good idea if possible for the fiance to request the interview be conducted in English, fortunately for us Huong speaks great English so that was no problem.

When Huong was let into the main gate at 7:55 they scanned her evidence bag for metal etc. then they gave her an order # that would tell her when to go to the interview window. her # was A55 but by no means was the calling in sequence, it seemed they picked the numbers at random. The order # also indicated what window she would be interviewed at so she could sit nearby and start going thru the evidence. At some point the fiances are called for the "general" interview and they go thru the minimum documentation checklist to ensure the fiance has everything the consulate requires. Huong noticed quite a few girls sitting with just a plastic folder containing a few photos and a few pages of documents, they were not prepared and could only speak Vietnamese, for the most part they all received blue. Huong sat and sat and watched her potential interviewer, a tall white guy with grey hair at #12, be very rough and meticulous and give almost all his interviews the blue slip. She got very worried. Then at 12 the staff left and everyone was given a slip saying they could go and come back at 1 so they could eat too but almost everyone stayed, fearing they would lose their spot on line. Huong stayed behind as well, and was worried for me as she knew I was outside for so long but figured it would be better to stay to get it done.

she was finally called for her interview at about 1:45. she walked up to the window carrying all the documents. after greeting, she realized he must already know she could speak english because his vietnamese translator was not even present. his first question was "Tell me about your fiance" and Huong, quite the talker, hehe, went on and on telling him about my job, house, family, friends, and life. She felt something good because he smiled the whole time she spoke and this was the first time she had seen him smile all day. Then he asked "How\when did you meet?" "How long did you chat\email before he came to see you in person?" As Huong was answering she noticed him shuffle some papers around and right there on his desk was the pink slip with her name on it, it seemed he had already made up his mind we were OK after reviewing my 134 and her paperwork, and the interview was just to confirm his findings. This made her very excited and happy. He asked to see our engagement party photos in Ao Dai and liked them alot, Huong said he really enjoyed them and said the pictures were "really great". Then he asked where and how we would get married and she told him our plans, and at that point his translator appeared and he said to her "I have just been talking to this young lady, she performed very well for her interview." Then he took the pink slip out and signed it and said to Huong "Have a nice trip and wedding. Welcome to America". So quick, her interview was less than 15 minutes when that same guy had taken 45-60 mins for everyone else he talked to that day.

Then at the end he asked if her fiance liked American football and what team did he like, Huong knew I was a Miami Dolphin fan so she told him, he laughed and told her he liked the Philadelphia Eagles and they would beat Miami this year if they play.

Somehow we got lucky, I guess because of all our prayers and pagoda visits, for some reason things went so smooth when they finally interviewed her.

The main points Huong felt were very important is that the fiance has to try to manage the interview, dont be shy and let the interviewer control the conversation, answer everything with confidence, even if you dont know the answer, just say "I dont know, we never talked about that, please ask me something new", and keep the discussion rolling, if they ask a question you know alot about, answer it completely, go into detail, if gives them a good idea that you have a great deal of knowledge about the petitioner.

here is the complete interview, to the best of Huongs recollection, in order:

1. Tell me about your fiance
2. How and when did you guys meet
3. How long after chatting and email did he come visit you
4. When and how did he propose marriage to you
5. Do you have any pictures from your engagement
6. Do you know any of your fiances work colleagues
7. Did you guys travel together when he came to visit you the 1st time?
8. What hotel did he stay at during his first trip? When did he leave to go back to the USA?
8a. how many people attended your pre-wedding party (the more the better!), he was happy to hear 350
9. What is your job in Vietnam?
10. Do you often travel abroad? Which countries have you been to?
11. Your fiance is a fan of american football, what team does he like?
12. what are your wedding plans for the US if you get the visa?

when reviewing her pictures he took careful note of all my trips, and to see that Huongs parents were included in some of them, particularly those of the engagement\pre-wedding parties.

Hope this info helps anyone who's got an interview date coming up, so many people helped us here, we hope we can return the favor in some small way!

best regards to everyone, good luck!
H&M



WHERE TO GET THE TIMELINE NOTARIZED? TIMELINE IS WHAT YOU WROTE LINES OF TIME ABOUT YOUR RELATIONSHIP? CONGRATS!

BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-06-10 09:08:00
Asia: East and PacificHotels in Viet Nam
QUOTE (Huong and Phung @ Jun 3 2009, 09:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi everyone!
I know that Dai_vn is currently living in Vietnam and some of you might know more about Hotels in VN than me. Could You guys please tell me or recommend any three to four stars. Please let me know soon and maybe their phone number if you have them. Thank you soooo much in advance.
Have a great day and GOOD LUCK to those who are having your interview soon.



I am living in Phu Nhuan and very close to district 3 Le Van Sy. Let ,e know if you are intersted in looking for a hotel?
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-06-04 20:22:00
Asia: East and Pacificbirth certificates of parents?
Thanks for your reply. Johncali9, are you ready for the interview yet? Let us know how it is going on ok! Best wishes to you Johncali9.
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-07-03 07:16:00
Asia: East and Pacificbirth certificates of parents?
Do birth certificates of benificiary's parents need to supply in K1 visa???
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-07-02 09:02:00
Asia: East and Pacificpacket4 HCMC
QUOTE (johncali9 @ Jun 7 2009, 12:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hello all,
I just send out the packet 3 in on may 7 ,I trying to find others out there are currently waiting for an interview date from the HCMC consulate. It's been almost 5 weeks we've been waiting and still nothing. I need to commiserate , Please help
Thank you



It takes 2 to 3 months so be patient!
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-06-08 08:46:00
Asia: East and Pacificdivorced decree?
Beside divorced decree, what else need to prove that there is no relationship with the exwife? It seems like johncali9 need to prove more. It is so hard but you can get pink though.
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-07-09 02:49:00
Asia: East and PacificMy wife ineterview was ok but attached blue pager@HCMC
QUOTE (johncali9 @ Jul 9 2009, 01:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Ronnie&Hang @ Jul 8 2009, 10:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey John,
Personally I havenot experience this, but my guess is they may need more time to look into your exwife situation.
Just be prepare to show any evidence that you and your exwife have no connections.
Look like Anh Map can help you further into this subject than me but just want to show my support and wish you lots of luck on Aug 6. Hang in there !!!

Hello
Thank you so much ,for your common and help you righ i have spoken with my lawyer he sau my wife answer the question as good and CO smile was good they need more look at me because Co ask my wife that"do you think your hurband still live his exwife" my wife say bno never she smile
The timeline my wife have already anyway and tiemline for my exwife too they retuen to my wife and say that you bring back on Aug 6
John


Did you have divorce decree?
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-07-09 01:37:00
Asia: East and Pacificinterview room
I think John's case if different because they want to see your proofs of the ex wife more than to see your timeline. Good advice for documents friends.
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-07-17 09:50:00
Asia: East and Pacificinterview room
I was wondering when we hand in the proofs because the documents are separated to hand in first? And as I read somewhere, timeline is handed in with documents or wait or CO to ask? Can anyone describe the process at the interview room in HCMC for K1? Thanks.
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-07-16 19:50:00
Asia: East and Pacificinterview with a CO
QUOTE (ScottThuy @ Jul 17 2009, 11:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Here is a link to a video for the UK process.. not far off.. no snack bar ... http://www.visajourn...howtopic=205642



It is very useful information Scott. Thanks.
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-07-17 19:14:00
Asia: East and Pacificinterview with a CO
Is it true that an interview are separated with an interviewee by a window? Do they talk on micro?Can they hear us talk?
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-07-17 09:53:00
Asia: East and PacificRelatives in US?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH! I UNDERSTAND NOW. HOWEVER, I CAN NOT LIST ALL OF THEM. VIETNAMESE PEOPLE ARE ALMOST IN CALIFORNIA, WE MET ONLINE, SO IT IS VERY CLEARLY NO SHORTCUT.
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-06-29 03:35:00
Asia: East and PacificRelatives in US?
Do I really need to supply the list of relatives in the US? I have some but I do not really know where they are living?
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-06-28 06:39:00
Asia: East and Pacifichandbags or backpackers?
QUOTE (Hien @ Jul 20 2009, 11:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (jeromebinh @ Jul 20 2009, 07:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is it allowed to carry handbags, folders and clear bags into the HCM Consulate? No phones or electrical things.


It is ok if you use it for evidence in your interview.


Thanks.
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-07-21 03:40:00
Asia: East and Pacifichandbags or backpackers?
Is it allowed to carry handbags, folders and clear bags into the HCM Consulate? No phones or electrical things.
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-07-20 09:50:00
Asia: East and Pacificdocuments to bring to interview- HCMC
Make sure that you have a notorized timeline from the petitioner in the US. This is a must. I know that they do not tell you this, but trust me I am here now and i saw many many blue slips because of this. Also make sure like they said to have all proof of any relatives pof your fiancee's relatives living in the us. not just a letter with here they are, but contact them and have them send por scan a gas bill or drivers liscense. Also if you were married before I would reccomend getting a letter from your ex wife along with a gas bill to prove that she does not live with you. I know this might sound strange, but trust me. I am in Vietnam now delivering the evidence my fiancee needed and nothing that I delivered was required in ANY of the paperwork they sent. You can use DHL to get the papers here in time, but do not do like I did and think that when people said this is what we needed I thought if I needed it that they would tell. My fiancee went through hell when she got the blue, dont be stubborn like me. Get the evidence that I am telling you about. It might cost you $40 to DHL it but it will be well worth it.
Jerome
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-08-08 19:42:00
Asia: East and PacificTimeline needed for HCM Consulate Interview
QUOTE (PeterFB @ Apr 26 2009, 04:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The timeline I did was based on documenting every important event and having evidence to back it up. It was made up of two parts attached together. The first part was the actually timeline which also had a paragraph explaining that the timeline would have the evidence immediately following the timeline and the evidence was in the same order as the timeline. For example, I sent flowers and candy for Valentine's Day, the timeline listed it with a brief description, ie they delivered them while we were video chatting (really it did happen!) and included the online reciept and hightlighted photocopy of the credit card statement showing the charge. I felt doing it this way would give USCIS and HCMC Consulate the "short" version where they could see the developement of our relationship. Then they could refer to the evidence that followed to see there was third party verification of the timeline entry. If the timeline referred to an event that was only in the chat or email logs, it included the date of the chat or email log and a copy of the email or chat was included following the timeline.

Feb 14 Sent Thi flowers and candy for Valentine's Day via Saigon Flowers. They were delivered while we were video chatting.
Feb 15 Thi sent me an e card wishing me Happy Valentine's Day. She also told me her family all had some of the chocolate in our chat dated Feb 15.

I included all this in the original I-129f and expanded with everything that happened since the I-129f filing for the Interview at HCMC Consulate. Thi was one of the few who got a pink slip that day. In fact they didn't look at any of the additional evidence she brought, they looked at a few pictures, asked about 10 questions and gave her the pink!

I think it's most important to file the best possible I-129f, as complete as possible with a timeline, evidence of the relationship, etc. The one I filed weighed about 4lbs. The USCIS and the Consulate have the most time to look at your I-129f, not what you bring to the interview. It seems the outcome of the interview is mostly decided before the interview. Your fiance(e) answers are to verify what the Consulate believes to be true. If they think you have a real relationship, and her/his answers confirm that, you get the pink. IF they don't think you have a real relationship, and the answers aren't better than perfect to change their mind, you get the blue, white or green.

The good news if you have a real relationship, you will end up getting your visa, it may take longer than you want, but you'll get it.

Peter and Thi

I-129F Sent : 2007-05-26
I-129F NOA1 : 2007-06-11
I-129F RFE(s) :
RFE Reply(s) :
I-129F NOA2 : 2007-10-26
Touched: 2007-11-02
NVC Recieved: 2007-11-16
Consulate recieved ??????
Packet 3 sent 2007-12-11
Packet 3 received 2007-12-24
Packet 3 returned 2007-12-28
Packet 4 sent 2008-1-14
Email Reply with Interview Date 2008-1-23
Interview Date 2008-2-27
Passed Interview 2008-02-27
Visa Pick Up Date 2008-3-05
Received Visa 2008-2-29 (called to pick up earlier)
POE 2008-3-05 Los Angeles
Wedding 2008-4-26
Filed AOS 2009-1-2
NOA 1 2009-1-8
Peter Nguyen Brunner born 2009-1-12
Advance Parole recieved 2009-3-27
EAD recieved 2009-3-11
AOS Interview 2009-5-20


THESE ARE VERY USEFUL INFO AND VERY HELPFUL. THANKS.

BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-06-09 03:54:00
Asia: East and PacificTimeline needed for HCM Consulate Interview
QUOTE (toddandhien @ Apr 23 2009, 12:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
NOTE: This information is directed ONLY at VJ'ers going through the HCM consulate in Vietnam.

Just thought I would share this information with everyone to reinforce the importance of preparing and bringing a detailed timeline to the interview in HCM.

Hien went yesterday for her medical at Cho Ray. She said that the place was packed with people, all doing the medical for a US Visa. The topic that was discussed the most with everyone was the timeline. Many women had family members who had been interviewed before and the Number 1 reason for people not being approved at the initial interview was failure to have a timeline or having a timeline that was not detailed. She was shocked at how many people that were there had never heard about the timeline requirement and how many knew about it but did not know what it was or how to prepare it.

This timeline is an absolute must at HCM. Petitioners, please be sure that you have this timeline prepared and notarized and provided for your spouse or fiance(e) to bring to the interview. If you read this and do not know how to do the timeline, please ask and we can help you. Do not skip this thinking that you can get away without it.



PLEASE SHOW HOW TO DO THE TIMELINE? URGENT PLS.
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-06-09 00:35:00
Asia: East and Pacificrebsumission of evidence blue slip
I think what everyone on visa journey needs to do is once they get the pink if they recieved the blue requesting a timeline we should write to our senators and congressmen. If enough people all stick together and do this and allow the use pof their names eventually spomething might get done. But if we just do what they say then nothing will get done. I would not reccomend calling or emailing anyone until you get the pink just to make sure there is no retaliation, but we should all pass the word and maybe the co's will take notice if we all stand up against them and complain. I think we should all try this and all do it then something good might come from this to future petitioners!!
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-08-10 23:33:00