ForumTitleContentMemberSexCountryDate/Time
Asia: East and Pacificvisit US (urgent)
Like I said before and like what was said after. It would not be the best idea in the world, and it would probably bring them more grief in the long run than they both would want or expect.
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-09-18 08:16:00
Asia: East and Pacificvisit US (urgent)
If she comes to the US on a visitor visa she will not be able to stay to my knowledge. Also if she comes on a visitor visa when they try to get her over here the right way it will not look good as with her entry visa was for visiting and she got married in a short time. It will throw up lots of red flags. I would have your friend not get married while she is here. It will only complicate matters later on. She could try to stay as a illegal but I am sure that is not her plans.
Jerome
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-09-18 07:50:00
Asia: East and PacificCase Updated
Glad to hear you all got approved. I just hope that soon we will also have the approval!!
Jerome and Binh
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-09-18 07:39:00
Asia: East and PacificGoing to HCM city sept 25, 8 months additional processing
QUOTE (ScottThuy @ Sep 20 2009, 12:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Its not her its only John on here... he's been in the US for 30 years... his written and spoken English is not the best but he tries... Its amazing how very successful he is and how highly intelligent he is and the English communication can cause many here great confusion... Just remember its John and he's trying to get his message across but it may take some clarification from time to time...


I have never said brother John was not intelligent and I think it is strange that you say it is only him. At times the English is just horrible and makes no sense to me. I have seen your posts as well being totally confused and then to see the post he just did it looked like a totally different person wrote it. My post was for me and for anyone else that has criticized him in the past over his English while posting. Because on his last post there was no mistaking what he said. If it is him all the time it makes no difference, just letting him know that it was a good post last time.
Jerome
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-09-20 17:35:00
Asia: East and PacificGoing to HCM city sept 25, 8 months additional processing

Hey fred
How are you doing ?,It saddens me to see the AP list growing and as Received in the the HCMC of Vietnam,they have nothing positive or hopeful to post We all need to see a case finish the AP that will give hope to us all
Good luck to you and Bring home good new make some warm ok
God's will give you Fred.

JOhn
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John,
I think that some of us had been hard on your writing skills. After reading this post I think most of the time it is your fiancée writing and not you. I apologize for anyone that is critical of how she writes. She is trying and it is a good thing. Please ask her when she posts to say it is her and not you. this way there will be less confusion. But I truly feel she is getting better with her English with each post it is easier and easier to read and understand.
Jerome and Binh
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-09-20 10:44:00
Asia: East and PacificGoing to HCM city sept 25, 8 months additional processing

Would you guys please get a second nick for the forum? This multiple personality thing is making me dizzy! wacko.gif
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If it is Jerome then Jerome signs at the end and if it is Binh she signs and if it is from both of us we both sign. No reason to get dizzy
Jerome
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-09-19 14:34:00
Asia: East and PacificGoing to HCM city sept 25, 8 months additional processing
QUOTE (jeromebinh @ Sep 18 2009, 10:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (jeromebinh @ Sep 18 2009, 11:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I am in the process of making a second trip to Vietnam as well. Hopefully if all works out I will leave October 1st and come home on the 22nd, if there is something that someone needs sent Let me know I will be in HCMC and within the next week I should be able to verify my trip.
Jerome


Honey,

A third trip you mean? Binh Le.



Yes a third trip honey. Thanks for the correction
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-09-19 09:18:00
Asia: East and PacificGoing to HCM city sept 25, 8 months additional processing
QUOTE (jeromebinh @ Sep 18 2009, 11:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I am in the process of making a second trip to Vietnam as well. Hopefully if all works out I will leave October 1st and come home on the 22nd, if there is something that someone needs sent Let me know I will be in HCMC and within the next week I should be able to verify my trip.
Jerome


Honey,

A third trip you mean? Binh Le.
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-09-18 21:24:00
Asia: East and PacificGoing to HCM city sept 25, 8 months additional processing
I am in the process of making a second trip to Vietnam as well. Hopefully if all works out I will leave October 1st and come home on the 22nd, if there is something that someone needs sent Let me know I will be in HCMC and within the next week I should be able to verify my trip.
Jerome
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-09-18 10:39:00
Asia: East and PacificGoing to HCM city sept 25, 8 months additional processing
QUOTE (fred n Dao Honey @ Sep 12 2009, 09:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi to all,

I want to thank everone that posts on here. I have learned a lot about the process. I am not happy to learn but I am relieved to learn that we are not the only ones waiting.

On the 14th of September Dao and I will have waited on AP for 8 months. I went to the Consulate on my last trip in May. I will go to the Consulate again this trip. Sept 25 to Oct 5 . I have hired Marc Ellis to represent us. I will meet him in person.

I have been looking back in the posts for information about an American guy that decided to go to Siagon and open a coffee shop so he could be with his sweetie. Can anyone can help me find their shop? I would like to show them some support and visit their cafe.

I have had about a 50% sucess rate with sending things(cards and letters) in the regular mail. The cost of sending anything except documents is well over 50usd using courier services. If any of you would like something transported for free to your sweetheart in saigon I have room. It must be legal to transport and I must be able to see what it is. You can send me a phone number on here to make arrangments. I have one 70lb bag of space available. I am hoping I can find others that can do the same for me someday.

One more thing since I have your attention. Ever since my first trip I have taken 3 Wheel Chairs to Vietnam to gift to a person in need. The airline will allow you to take it with no questions as long as you tell them it is yours. I get them free on Craigslist. Make someone cry and take a Wheelchair to Vietnam. You will never regret it.

Thanks,
Fred



there are a lot of us in your boat. I hope we do not have 8 months of AP our thoughts and prayers are with you. I will remember the wheel chair thing next time I go to HCMC it sounds like you are a great person, we both wish you the best!
Jerome and Binh
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-09-12 20:55:00
Asia: East and PacificCR1 Approved !
Congrats!!
One step down now only a few more to go. Best of luck
Jerome and Binh
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-09-21 13:52:00
Asia: East and PacificGood News for a Saturday
That is great. It is always good to see someone try hard and get what they work for. I do not know if going out to eat would be as nice as you just preparing a great meal. Candle light you and her alone at home and all she has to do is sit back and enjoy your meal. mmmm mmmmm What every you choose have a great night and congrats again!
Jerome and Binh
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-09-19 14:40:00
Asia: East and Pacificwant to read my HCMC timeline?
QUOTE (NQT1976 @ Sep 22 2009, 02:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
there will be no more pink in HCMC .

I come submit timeline for my wife on 8/25/2009, almost 99% with blue slip get another blue slip again.

I also get a blue sip but this time is administrative close( the chief officer make final review and then send back to USCIS).

it say I can appeal @ USCIS but if USCIS revoke my case my wife will not be elligable for visa anymore.

this is such really such.

I askd the immigration lawyer if I can sue the consular, but he said that he can't sue them there is no court to sue. that too bad, no body can help me.

anybody know "administrative close" ?


Sorry about the denial, I do not know what to tell you. It really sucks. I would ask though that you not post there will be no more pink. Some people might get worried, and it might be true, but lets try to keep our hopes up and with words like that it is hard. I would wait until it comes back to USCIS and then see why they gave you the denial, I have heard some people contest it and they can get a second interview and then get it approved, just dont give up hope.
Jerome
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-09-22 18:16:00
Asia: East and PacificMy wife interview, blue sheet @ HCM consulate
QUOTE (NQT1976 @ Sep 22 2009, 03:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
there will be no more pink in HCMC .

I come submit timeline for my wife on 8/25/2009, almost 99% with blue slip get another blue slip again.

I also get a blue sip but this time is administrative close( the chief officer make final review and then send back to USCIS).

it say I can appeal @ USCIS but if USCIS revoke my case my wife will not be elligable for visa anymore.

this is such really such.

I askd the immigration lawyer if I can sue the consular, but he said that he can't sue them there is no court to sue. that too bad, no body can help me.


Before in your earlier post you mentioned that you did not make much last year this might have been the problem, I bet if you waited until next year with the income you made for the full year this year you would get pink second time around. Either way good luck and just keep strong if you want it bad enough you will eventually get it.
Jerome and Binh

QUOTE (NQT1976 @ Sep 22 2009, 04:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
there will be alot more come soon.

these day only people who has baby may get pink


If you see, you believe. I saw people with babies got blue or even got denied. Binh Le.
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-09-22 19:54:00
Asia: East and PacificMy wife interview, blue sheet @ HCM consulate
QUOTE (johncali9 @ Aug 8 2009, 08:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (jeromebinh @ Aug 8 2009, 05:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You will need to do the timeline, not her. It will have to be signed and notorized by you. My fiancee had a timeline that she did and they did not accept. They will interview your wife, so with a timeline they can hear from you in your words about your relationship not in hers. I will email you snippets from my timeline.
Jerpome

Hey brother Binh
What's up men long time no talk,how you case going let us know why you keep bommbard men
john


Post your timeline. You want to help people.
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-08-19 19:50:00
Asia: East and PacificMy wife interview, blue sheet @ HCM consulate
QUOTE (Huong and Phung @ Aug 8 2009, 08:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Did anyone see the dates are different on the bluesheet? On the English section it says 25/8/09 but on the vietnamese translation it says 2/9/09. What's going on there? Can anyone explain?



Yes, the date for resubmission is different. Why?
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-08-19 19:41:00
Asia: East and PacificMy wife interview, blue sheet @ HCM consulate
QUOTE (NQT1976 @ Aug 8 2009, 08:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Huong and Phung @ Aug 8 2009, 08:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Did anyone see the dates are different on the bluesheet? On the English section it says 25/8/09 but on the vietnamese translation it says 2/9/09. What's going on there? Can anyone explain?

Thanks Binh,
Your timeline look very good, I'm writing my timeline now. I will get it notified and send to my wife Monday.
hopefully we get pink sheet.



Make sure you get it notorized
Jerome
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-08-19 18:08:00
Asia: East and PacificMy wife interview, blue sheet @ HCM consulate
You will need to do the timeline, not her. It will have to be signed and notorized by you. My fiancee had a timeline that she did and they did not accept. They will interview your wife, so with a timeline they can hear from you in your words about your relationship not in hers. I will email you snippets from my timeline.
Jerpome
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-08-08 19:00:00
Asia: East and PacificAnother HCMC black eye
QUOTE (JimVaPhuong @ Sep 21 2009, 12:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (lindal24 @ Sep 21 2009, 07:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (JimVaPhuong @ Sep 20 2009, 10:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My fiancee is 43. Does that mean I get the runner-up plaque instead of the trophy? unsure.gif


Wow...she looks great for 43!! smile.gif


In all fairness, we got up at 3:30 am so the makeup artist could work on her. We got to the temple at 5:30 am for the ceremony. But even without the makeup, I think she's gorgeous (I'm biased, of course). When we left for the party that afternoon, she was in her gown and I was in my tux, we got off the elevator and everyone in the hotel lobby gasped when they saw her - and then they started to applaud. My sister said she thought she was with "Branjolina"! tongue.gif


Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I agree we are all probably biased on our loved ones, but you do have a looker Jim.
Jerome
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-09-21 13:56:00
Asia: East and PacificAnother HCMC black eye
QUOTE (vietazn @ Sep 20 2009, 05:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Spoke with several other Vietnamese people about the fiancé visa process. We are of the opinion that the process would be better if there were two different channels: one for couples with one or both who have already been married, and one for couples with neither married. Couples with previous marriages should not clog up the channels because their application demands more scrutiny, and plus they have already had their chance in marriage. Too bad this is not the presidential election cycle because I would like to personally ask Mitt Romney his opinion on this issue because he has made family values the central portion of his campaign.


I do not know if I understand you correctly. But if I did, I totally disagree. America is land of the free. If a person wants to get married more than once he should have that option, I think if they had separate channels, that this would just slow down the entire process even further because there might be breaks in one channel and the other over flowing. I just think they need to have more co's and they need to get one case done at a time instead of putting half or more on ap then on ap again. If they truly need more time then that is fine, but half of these cases could be straightened out with one or two questions or phone calls. They just do not want to do it or they truly do not have the time to do it. I prefer to think they are just taking their sweet time and enjoying playing god with the countless peoples lives that come in front of them.
Jerome
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-09-20 17:31:00
Asia: East and PacificAnother HCMC black eye
QUOTE (Kevin&Loan @ Sep 20 2009, 04:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Love is blind. My first marriage to a doctor failed miserably simply because we approach the life differently. She dissed everything Viet, worshiped the American way of life while I tend to favor Viet culture more. Nonetheless, I loved her once. With my wife now, I never ever thought of the possibility of marrying anyone in Vietnam but it was love that brought us together. This December will mark 5 years of our marriage and our son will turn 3 soon and until today, I still don't know how I could possibly fall in love for someone who was half way around the globe. All I know is I took a chance. So did my wife. She had a very successful restaurant in Vietnam, made more than "enough" and she had met many Viet Kieu before me. I have a solid great job, professional by day, bachelor by night but somehow our destinies crossed path. I now trade my party nights for quite nights with my son and my wife gather around the living room laughing over comedy skits on TV. She traded her lucrative but always busy business for a very simple job with much less money at the nail salon but more quite and happiness. So I guess our 50/50 chance turned out favorably for us. We either made it or break it. Simple as that. So guys, don't doubt. Don't worry about what others say. You live your life they way you see fit. Just love and treasure what you have. Everyone has intentions, good or bad but it is all about the betterment of their lives. We are here to lend hand of support for each other. The bickering does us no good. Let's focus to the matter at hand ... that is getting that PINK smile.gif


great post, and I am very happy for the three of you.
Jerome
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-09-20 16:07:00
Asia: East and PacificAnother HCMC black eye

All good points. Thankfully, Phuong and I have none of these. blush.gif
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Good luck ! We wish you the best
Jerome and Binh
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-09-20 11:27:00
Asia: East and PacificAnother HCMC black eye
QUOTE (ScottThuy @ Sep 20 2009, 11:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (jeromebinh @ Sep 20 2009, 10:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I also think Scott is correct and incorrect. I do not think it is just Vietnam that people say be careful not congrats to, but to all countries.
Jerome

When did I say this only happens in VN or with VN spouses? VN is one of several countries dealing with this, but it happens to be one of a few at the top end of the list. The reason they are saying you are being scammed is because the SO is from VN. They would not say that if she was from Canada.


I know Scott, but there is high fraud from the Philippines, Ukraine, Russia, and other countries as well. Maybe not as high as Vietnam, but every person going abroad is stuck with the stigma that you are being scammed. Really sit back and think for one moment and you will see it is not only Vietnam. I had a different foreign Fiancée before Binh and she was from the Ukraine, I got the same thing there. Then after we broke up I started to write people from other countries and before the woman from Ukraine I was writing a woman from Indonesia, same thing there, and with the Philippines as well and now with Vietnam. I think people say "be careful" because they worry about you genuinely and they know you are not with the person and can not easily check up on them because they are thousands of miles away. I have truly heard of more fraud from the Philippines and former Soviet countries than in Vietnam, but everyone insists of Vietnam is the worst in this forum. On paper maybe, but I have heard of friends friends from other countries way more than from Vietnam.
Scott, about your other post. I know the doubt, but it is not good, do not worry about what people say, and try to not let it get into your head. Your fiancée will do things for you that no other person can do. No matter how mad or your family gets (not saying they are mad) once she is here and they see how happy you two are together they will understand they were wrong. If you have doubts now clear your head and trust your heart. If I get played for a green card, who cares. I trusted in my heart, how can you go wrong in doing that?? I trust Binh, and I believe in her. I do not and will not try to tell you to or not to trust your fiancée, but I will tell you to trust in your heart, don't look for red flags you will always find them if you look hard enough. Remember it is always easier to doubt than to accept. Just trust in your heart and you will be fine. If something strange happens, write a letter then tear it up before you talk to her about it. There is never anything good coming from assuming the worst and expecting a explanation. I have jumped the gun in the past, and I saw how it affected my relationships. I still do at times it is human instinct, just try to cool down and bring things up casually this way you do not make her feel you are pointing fingers. As you said you already told her how your family views it so each time you point a finger and ask what the heck it makes her feel worse and worse. Eventually she will get the doubts as well. If you accuse someone of something long enough more often than not they will do what they were accused of simply because you already thought they did it.
Just have faith in your heart all else will work out.
Jerome
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-09-20 10:29:00
Asia: East and PacificAnother HCMC black eye
QUOTE (JimVaPhuong @ Sep 20 2009, 09:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Hien @ Sep 19 2009, 08:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm not trying to persuade all of you that all Vietnamese brides came to US are in truthful marriage, but if your guys didn't believe them, why don't your guys come to Vietnam to live with them to avoid scammers coming to your country? Hummm, I like that idea.

I should ask him to come to VN so I didn't have to give up my house, my University degree and my good job to come to the USA to work in McDonald restaurant to look for money to came back to school. I had to start over everything.

You chose the wrong ones by yourselves and now complain for all of the brides. mad.gif crying.gif


Most men don't have any doubts that their VN fiancee or wife is sincere. If we did, we wouldn't go through with it, and we certainly wouldn't move to Vietnam in order to make her prove it. That's like saying you should burn your money in order to prove your fiancee isn't marrying you for money.

I would happily move to Vietnam in order to be with my fiancee, but I consider that an absolute last resort. My fiancee also has a house, a degree, and a good job (by Vietnam standards). I have the same. In order for us to be together, we're going to have to make sacrifices. If I move to Vietnam I would have a lot to lose, and very little to gain other than being with my fiancee. She also has a lot to lose by moving to the US, but also a lot to gain. The standard of living in the US is a lot better, the quality of healthcare and university education is a lot better, and there's far less corruption in the US. If she lives in the US then we'll be able to freely travel back to Vietnam. If I move to Vietnam, then she'll never be able to travel with me back to the US. In fact, I can't think of a single aspect of living in Vietnam that would be better than living in the US.

Nobody get's married for only one reason. Everyone has a lot of factors to consider when choosing a partner, and those factors vary greatly from one person to another. The only common factor is love, and in a lot of cases love is not the top priority. This isn't necessarily a bad thing. For instance, a pregnant girl might want to get married right away so that her child will be legitimate. She might love her fiance very much, but the pregnancy has made the marriage more urgent. Another person might have a serious health condition, but they've recently lost their job and their health coverage. They might decide to marry right away in order to get health coverage from their partners employer. Again, they might be very much in love, but life has changed their priorities.

We have a lot of reasons for wanting to marry our Vietnamese fiancee's, and they have a lot of reasons for wanting to marry us. The only thing either of us should require from the other is that love be an important factor on that list of reasons.

The "wrong ones", as you say, are the girls for whom a green card is the top priority, and love is nowhere on their list of reasons for getting married. The majority of Vietnamese girls applying for fiancee or spousal visas are not one of these girls. Unfortunately, the percentage of girls in Vietnam who do this is much higher than it is in most other countries. As a result, the consulate suspects everyone of fraud, and it makes it much more difficult for all of us. Nobody would intentionally "choose" one of these girls, but the heart often does not think as clearly as the head. In some cases there are warning signs that a man in love chooses to ignore. In many cases, there are no warning signs. We read about far too many of these cases here on VJ.

Scott is correct - when an American man tells his friends and family about his engagement to a Vietnamese girl, the first thing most of them say is NOT "Congratulations!". The first thing they say is "Be careful! Make sure she's not scamming you for a green card!". It's unfortunate, but Vietnamese girls should realize that this problem is huge, and at some point their fiance is going to wonder if he's going to be a victim.


I dont know about some of the statements you made. I agree if you just move there it would and should be last resort. I agree with that. If just being with your fiancee is not enough reason to move to be with her then I do not know what is. You might ponder this when the time comes. If you do not get the visa, move there then file the cr1 Live there while this process is going on, this also helps prove your relationship as well. Then when it is approved come to the us and get the green card. IF/when I have to move there I am not selling my house this way if we are forced to file for the cr1 while I work and live there I will still have a house here to move to after we get that visa. I also think Scott is correct and incorrect. I do not think it is just Vietnam that people say be careful not congrats to, but to all countries.
Jerome
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-09-20 09:02:00
Asia: East and PacificAnother HCMC black eye
QUOTE (ScottThuy @ Sep 19 2009, 11:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Hien @ Sep 19 2009, 11:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm not trying to persuade all of you that all Vietnamese brides came to US are in truthful marriage, but if your guys didn't believe them, why don't your guys come to Vietnam to live with them to avoid scammers coming to your country? Hummm, I like that idea.

I should ask him to come to VN so I didn't have to give up my house, my University degree and my good job to come to the USA to work in McDonald restaurant to look for money to came back to school. I had to start over everything.

You chose the wrong ones by yourselves and now complain for all of the brides. mad.gif crying.gif

If I could take my son to live there and be sure he could get a high quality education, I would move this week. And I know she would prefer if I move there anyway...



Scott the international schools are very good in Vietnam, most have a foreign curriculum and they are focused on English language not the Vietnamese language. I know there is more to the move than just good schooling, maybe you can petition the courts for your child to be able to go there. Send him back during the summer breaks so he can be with his mother and maybe the Christmas break as well, and alternate between tet and Christmas each year. Just a thought.
Jerome
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-09-20 08:41:00
Asia: East and PacificAnother HCMC black eye
QUOTE (Hien @ Sep 19 2009, 11:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm not trying to persuade all of you that all Vietnamese brides came to US are in truthful marriage, but if your guys didn't believe them, why don't your guys come to Vietnam to live with them to avoid scammers coming to your country? Hummm, I like that idea.

I should ask him to come to VN so I didn't have to give up my house, my University degree and my good job to come to the USA to work in McDonald restaurant to look for money to came back to school. I had to start over everything.

You chose the wrong ones by yourselves and now complain for all of the brides. mad.gif crying.gif


I agree with your statement. I think the living conditions with health care are a bit better in America, and I think the schooling is just a bit better than the international schooling over there. Most of the brides in Vietnam do not have their own house and live with family. I would not mind living with her family if I moved there at all. Some people would. Also most or some of the American men over here have their own houses and good jobs as well. So for them to move to a foreign country would be a bit harder. I understand that some Viet brides do have their own house and good jobs as well. But for a foreign person to try to get a good job in Vietnam might be hard. I am currently getting my teaching degree so that I can move there to be with Binh if we get denied for her Visa, also we have the plan on moving back to Vietnam after she gets a green card. This way when we live in Vietnam and I can teach we will be able to travel back and forth without the hassle of the visa so that she can come with to visit family. I also try to not blame all this fraud on the wife either. One person tells us a story that the fiancée just left and said nothing, then calls and says it is over. The next thing we hear is that she came home, then we hear that he forbid her to see her family, then the next 100 posts he is trying to say what he did not say. I know there is 2 sides to each story. Yes there are many women that commit fraud, and there are also many men that only want house slaves as well. I agree that they need to make it harder to get citizenship. I think if the husband beats on the woman then she should go back to her country, then forbid the man to ever bring another foreign woman to America. If you make it where a person can skip a process to get the green card it makes it easier to fraud the system, but if you make it where when you attempt to skip a step you are forced to go home. That might not be rite to the people that are truly being abused or cheated on or what ever, but look at all the people that can not come to America that are not trying to fraud the system. It is not fair for us either. My mother always told me "life is not fair" She was very correct about that.
Jerome
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-09-20 08:38:00
Asia: East and PacificAnother HCMC black eye
This case sounds so very similar to Calilove, maybe the same person?
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-09-19 19:52:00
Asia: East and PacificHCMC: CR1 interview-->blue slip-->AP-->PINK slip.
QUOTE (luckytxn @ Sep 24 2009, 10:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Many thanks too for coming and telling us about the interview and everything else. We ask over and over but many do not but they have no problem coming in and whining about what to do and stuff and read the few that do bother to post their experiences and using that to help themselves. It helps us all a lot when they do as you did for us and gain many thanks. Any other info you remember please come back and post it.



No joke! Some things on here make no sense and when you get people posting complaints without real evidence it just makes it bad for everyone that has to read the posts. I wish that when people would say something they would have real facts. I hate it when people say that 99% get denied or "no more visa's" Each day is different, and before I would ever say that 99% or even 50% get denied I would want to do actual research, not just that days research or what people say here. There are countless people that do not use this site at all or any site, and the people that do usually have problems or are just worried and want to make sure they know what is going on. When binh was there there were many people that got pink, and when I came back and we were at the consulate I saw many pink as well as many blue. I would say that day it was about 50/50 on pink or blue, but that was only one day, not a week, or not a month, so for me to tell everyone that it is 50/50 chance to get a visa would be false. I like true facts, not " my friend said that bla bla bla" in any case, we need the input and the constructive help not just the bad stories or mis information.
Jerome
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-09-24 10:02:00
Asia: East and PacificHCMC: CR1 interview-->blue slip-->AP-->PINK slip.
congrats
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-09-24 08:10:00
Asia: East and PacificHCMC VN feedback needed
Scott,
It sounds like a all around bad situation. If there is any plus side is that you trust your fiancée and that with your job you make frequent trips as well. I would get signed papers from anyone you can, if they do not look at them you at least tried to confront the problem head on. You may or may not get blue, but at least you know what you thought was right by not trying to hide anything and also by getting as much documentation to back up your points.
Jerome
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-09-24 08:07:00
Asia: East and Pacificwhere to buy office supplies in HCMC?
QUOTE (vietazn @ Sep 24 2009, 07:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Near District 1. Specifically, letter size (8.5 x 11) printer/copier paper? Thanks


D1 is quite expensive. You can buy in D5 or Cholon for wholesale or any book shops every in HCMC.
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-09-24 20:40:00
Asia: East and PacificCost of Air Conditioners in Vietnam?
QUOTE (NQT1976 @ Sep 22 2009, 09:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Matt_Stevens @ Sep 22 2009, 06:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What do air conditioners cost in Vietnam? What price range? Here in the USA it's easy to get models starting at 89.99, but my wife is saying her brother had to spend near $400 on one the other day and that the cheapest start around $300.

Is that possible or is my wife delusional?


you don't trust your wife, why marry her ?


I do not think it is a trust issue I think it was more of a issue if we knew a different place to get one cheaper or that he might have mis understood her.
Jerome
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-09-22 20:58:00
Asia: East and PacificCost of Air Conditioners in Vietnam?
Binh just told me it was 10 million for the one her brother put in or about $600 usd
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-09-22 19:42:00
Asia: East and PacificCost of Air Conditioners in Vietnam?
QUOTE (Matt_Stevens @ Sep 22 2009, 07:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What a p!sser. ohmy.gif We are kinda broke right now, but could easily send them $150 or so, but $400... No, not right now.


They are your family, send them what you can when you can they will understand.
Jerome
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-09-22 18:17:00
Asia: East and PacificCost of Air Conditioners in Vietnam?
That seems correct. In america we get a simple window unit, in Vietnam their ac's are much different, a lot better. They usually are installed as well. Binh's brother just bought a Samsung ac unit, I will ask her later the price, but I think it cost about $400. Remember it is much hotter and humid in Vietnam and most buildings are concrete.
Jerome
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-09-22 18:11:00
Asia: East and PacificHCMC Interview docs organization...
QUOTE (ScottThuy @ Sep 25 2009, 03:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You must arrange the copies of your documents in order as listed below and separate all the original documents.

OK this seemed pretty straight forward a week ago... And after reading it for the 100'th time I am rethinking it...
I created an outline that works as a coverpage for each group of documents submitted.
I had originals and copies together and now I am stuck on the words "separate all the original documents"...
The thing is.... some originals will be kept by them and some will be returned to us.... an example.. the original DS 230 medical paperwork, justice report etc will all be kept by them... but Divorce decrees BC's and the like will be returned... all are technically originals

Rather than originals and copies, should I seperate them into what they keep and what they will return groupings?
Here is the list I have for docs they keep (in many cases copies):
1. Appointment Letter
2. Visa Photo’s (4)
3. MVR Receipt
4. Visa Application Forms
a. DS-156 (2 copies)
b. DS-156K
c. DS-230
5. Applicant Identification Card
6. Household registration book
7. Applicant Birth Cert.
8. Petitioner Birth Cert.
9. Marital Documents
a. Petitioner Divorce Decree 1
b. Petitioner Divorce Decree 2
c. Petitioner Evidence of separate domicile
d. Applicant Divorce Decree
10. Applicant Passport Copy with photo attached
11. Justice record
12. Applicant Passport with photo attached
13. Evidence of Support
a. I-134
b. Tax transcripts 2006-2009
c. 1040’s 2006-2009
d. W-2’s & 1099’s 2008
e. Pay Stubs


And here is what I think they mean by originals that will be returned:
1. Appointment Letter
2. MVR Receipt
3. Visa Application Forms
a. DS-156
b. DS-156K
c. DS-230
4. Applicant Identification Card- original included in Attachment Envelope
5. Household registration book- original included in Attachment Envelope
6. Applicant Birth Cert.
7. Petitioner Birth Cert.
8. Marital Documents
f. Petitioner Divorce Decree 1
g. Petitioner Divorce Decree 2
h. Petitioner Evidence of separate domicile
i. Applicant Divorce Decree
9. Justice record
10. Applicant Passport- included in Attachment Envelope
11. Evidence of Support
j. I-134
k. Tax transcripts 2006-2009
l. 1040’s 2006-2009
m. W-2’s & 1099’s 2008
n. Pay Stubs
12. Evidence of Relationship
12 a Pre engagement (separate Attachment)
12 b post engagement (separate Attachment)



What we did was basically make 2 seperate folders, one with originals, and the other with copies. We put a cover letter on top and then had the originals in order on top, then behind it was in order with copies. We has 1 copy of each original so that the second stack was in order as they requested, and they could just sort through the originals and if need be look at the rest. We did get blue, so I am not sure if it was correct or not, but the CO did not say anything to Binh about doing it wrong.
Jerome
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-09-25 16:34:00
Asia: East and PacificDo Vietnamese need Visas to shop in Japan on the way to America?
Go to the japaneese embassy and see what the visa requirements for Japan are in relation to you being a vietnameese citizen. Some countries do not require a visa for different countries, and some do. If you plan on leaving the airport at any country other than where you are traveling to, I would look into it before trying to leave. Congrats on getting a visa to the usa, it is hard through hcmc!
Jerome
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-09-26 14:39:00
Asia: East and PacificVisits
QUOTE (WeatherEmperor @ Sep 30 2009, 10:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Jerome,

Thu and I plan to have our engagement ceremony around February next year. In a way, our relationship journey may look similar to yours in a sense that the ceremony will be held before the initial I-129F filing. I noticed also that you and Binh still got the blue slip. I know my next question will be silly, because if you knew the answer, you would have prepared for it before hand but what do you believe is the reason you and Binh got the blue slip? Perhaps something you missed on the forms? Perhaps not enough email, picture, phone record evidence?



That is the million dollar question for sure. During the interview Binh said she saw a pink visa. Through the questioning it went great, then they asked about my ex wife, not to get into great detail on a public forum about what she did I will just say this. Binh told them she was in prison, and that it was for a very and i mean very serious crime, and his face went from a smile to a not sure look. He got up and went somewhere and came back with a blue, and in the blue it asked for proof where my ex wife lived and what her nationality was. Binh had proof that she was in prison with her, and of the charges, but the CO refused to look at them. They also asked for a time line, which Binh did have, and they asked for proof of her relatives in America, this she did not have. I think the CO did not believe my ex was in prison and that if she was it was not for what Binh said. And I feel this is what the blue was all about. Binh could have lied, but I am glad she told them the truth, this way we know we were 100% honest about every question they asked, and no matter the ending of our journey, we know we did what we felt was the right thing to do every step of the way. It could have been other things that sent up red flags, Yes I had filed for a visa before, and as I said in other posts that was right at 2 years before I filed for this petition and I put in a waiver and was deemed eligible to proceed. We talked more on Yahoo than on the phone, our reasoning is simple, we both already have INTERNET and why then pay for a phone call? hmm 32 cents a minute or 30 dollars a month?? No brainier for me and probably well over half of the other visa petitioners. Taking your time is a great thing, it does help, and it will also help you. I could have found a American woman over here, but I wanted to truly get to know someone without the lust involved first, and when I got to know Binh, I knew I had finally found the right one. We both hope you have found the right one as well. and good luck with all that lies before you.

Jerome and Binh
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-09-30 10:10:00
Asia: East and PacificVisits
QUOTE (JimVaPhuong @ Sep 29 2009, 11:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (jeromebinh @ Sep 29 2009, 06:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I totally disagree. I do not care if they are overwhelmed or not, if they have 2 minutes or 5 hours to look at the chat logs, it will be their choice what they look at no matter what, I say give them more than they can handle. No offense Jim, but as I said, there is no way I agree with that statement to give them what you think is important or will help, if you have a 2 year or 1 year relationship and you say that you chat all the time you need to prove it, but by taking only 1 day a week or so worth of chat logs looks to me like you were not to worried about talking with your loved one. I do like the input about WackyB, I wish I would have had that when we started our relationship. It would have made it easier to get all the chat logs together.
Either way you choose, as I said before do what your heart says. Jim does make a good point I will give him that the CO does not have tons of time to view everything, but if you have everything there or even if you have half of it there he will look at what he chooses to look at. On Binh's interview they did not even look at the chat logs, but they were there if he would have wanted them. Just remember this is our advice, choose what you want to do from our suggestions or do something that you think of yourself. Just do what you feel is right and then if good comes from it you are happy, and if bad comes from it, you know you did what you thought was right. If you do what we did you might get pink, or white, who knows, if you do what Linda says or John says, same thing it is a roll of the dice, so what ever you do, make sure that is what you want and not what we think you should do. Good luck Jerome and Binh


First, we need to differentiate between "chat logs" and "chat sessions". A "chat log" is simply a list, like a directory, of all of your "chat sessions". A "chat session" is an actual transcript of an entire conversation. I recommended printing the entire chat log, but only selected chat sessions. I did not recommend picking one per week, or any other specific interval. I recommended picking from the "best of the best". If two of them happen to be on consecutive days, no problem. If there are weeks in between a couple of them, again, no problem.

The problem with "he will look at what he chooses to look at" is that you will have no way of knowing what he'll choose to read. He'll flip through and randomly grab a page to read. What if that particular chat session was talking mostly about the visa interview, and what kind of questions are going to be asked? Is that going to sound to the CO like a couple in love, or is it going to sound like a couple just trying to get a visa? I don't know about your conversations with Binh, but the bulk of my conversations with Phuong are not gushing about how much we love each other. There's a bit of that in every conversation, but we spend most of our time talking like two intelligent adults about a wide variety of things. Most of it the CO would probably find pretty boring, but there are specific parts of specific conversations that, if taken out of the context of the entire conversation or even series of conversations, could be badly misinterpreted. There are other conversations that are, frankly, none of their godamn business.

Your SO will have one real shot to make her case, and precious few minutes to do it. I would want to make damn sure that there is a 100% chance he'll see our best evidence, and absolutely 0% chance he'll see anything less than that.



John, I am not here to argue with you, and you already know everything. You do as you choose, and as I told the OP do what he wants to do and as long as he does what he thinks is correct then he will be happy with the outcome, but I do want to make one point, there is not a CO alive that does not suspect that we do not go over the visa interviews before the interview. And quite frankly I am sure that there are many couples that say things in chat logs that would make a good rated R film or worse, and I am sure the CO expects that as well, maybe not expecting to read it. And you say you want a 100% chance he will see your best evidence, that will not happen, He did not look at 1 single chat log from our case, he saw that we had stacks of papers with us, and knew that we were well prepared to prove our case and that we had plenty of evidence to support that we talked on a daily basis.


Do what is in your heart, and what you think is right, Luckytxn put it all in and he made one trip and got his visa, use his experience, Binh and me put it all in and got a blue, Jim has yet to even get to a interview this time yet, and listen to his advice as well, and the same with Scott he has not made it to the interview yet either, use all our advice and pick what works for you and if you are not satisfied then go with something else, just do what you think is right this way no matter what the outcome is, you will be proud to know that you did not hold anything back and that you gave it 100%.
Good luck as always Jerome and Binh

QUOTE (WeatherEmperor @ Sep 29 2009, 11:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No I am not Vietnamese. I was born in Suriname which is a tiny country in South America. I have lived in Florida since 1995. In any case, I do see your point. You know, I frequently ask Thu if her parents approve us being together and she keeps telling me that they like me and they are happy for us. I do believe her, but I will feel much more comfortable once I meet them in person when I go to VN early next year.


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QUOTE (lindal24 @ Sep 29 2009, 11:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (WeatherEmperor @ Sep 29 2009, 09:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks Scott. I agree with you. I think that makes the most sense for Thu and I. Maybe we should just both relax and enjoy the relationship for now and file after the engagement. I see that you have the dam hoi for you and Thuy planned for November. How long will you be staying in VN? Any plans to return to VN early next year?
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Are you Vietnamese? Because another thing, and I don't know if the CO will find it important or not, is that the parents have a "talk" regarding you guys' relationship...it's basically the parents' approval to "date" their child...it's different from the dam hoi and I'd say pretty important, and out of respect for elders, for younger couples say in their 20s to have traditionally...




I was the same as you Binh told me her mother and brother were very happy for us, and when I went the first time, it only took about 5 minutes to know for sure I wanted to marry her. I already knew that, but what I mean is her family made me feel so at home and comfortable it was just wonderful.
Jerome

BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-09-30 07:31:00
Asia: East and PacificVisits
Scott is correct on his point. If you are not worried about waiting, do it before you file, and take photos and front load with them and make it a big part of your time line. Don't worry about asking to many questions, we have all been there or we are there right now.
Jerome
BinhJeromeMaleVietnam2009-09-29 21:42:00