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USC moving during K-1 process

Ok thanks for the replies! I think I'll go ahead and change it if I move.

Alhamdulillah

Female

Libya

2006-08-22 07:37:00

USC moving during K-1 process

I am the USC and my petition has been approved and forwarded to the embassy. My fiance has received the first packet and returned and is just waiting on the interview date now.
If I need to move before this, is it allowed? I can forward my mail but I think some things won't get forwarded. Do I need to change my address with USCIS even though our petition is not there anymore? Is there anything else that I should be expecting in the mail at this point or is it pretty much just on him from here on out?

Alhamdulillah

Female

Libya

2006-08-19 13:22:00

Birth Cert. Q

When you get it from the county clerk's office it will have an offical seal.

Alhamdulillah

Female

Libya

2006-11-07 12:08:00

did you guys use an immigration lawyer?

No, we've just been doing it ourselves and with the help of this site.

Alhamdulillah

Female

Libya

2006-11-08 08:30:00

Interview Success!

Congratulations! That's terrific news. :dance:

Alhamdulillah

Female

Libya

2006-11-07 12:11:00

Fiance Visa vs Marriage Visa

This is personal opinion, but I am a BIG fan of DCF. Not all embassies offer it though. And if they do they might not offer it for all of the visas. The down side it the money involved in flying to and fro. The up side is that you get to see your sweetie a bit more then waiting Stateside.

Joel

Agreed. If you can do DCF while you're still in his country I believe it could be a lot faster for you.

Alhamdulillah

Female

Libya

2006-11-09 08:45:00

K-1 visa... how long is it good for?

My fiance was approved for his visa and told he can come back to get it after a month but I'm condused about one thing... he asked the consular officer how long it's good for and she told him 3 months. What he meant was how long is it valid before he uses it.... how long does he have before it is invalid? I thought I read someplace that it is good for 6 months... is this correct? :help:

I know it's only good for 90 days once he's here.

Alhamdulillah

Female

Libya

2006-12-06 20:53:00

Why do VJ MENA members fight so much with each other?

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the hot guys thing

Ding Ding Ding...

We have a Winner!!!!

I thought you were gonna say "gross" and "abnormal"

Alhamdulillah

Female

Libya

2008-07-19 19:50:00

MENA User_names

Alhamdulillah = All the praise is for God and I chose it here because I'm grateful to God for my husband and that we're finally together. It used to be Patient and that was what I was striving to be while waiting to be reunited with him.

Alhamdulillah

Female

Libya

2007-09-12 09:39:00

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Isn't Mikha'il the name of one of the angels, according to Islam? My husband and I discussed angels a while back, and I remember similarities to the Biblical names.

Michael is one of the archangels; along with Gabriel and Rafael. As found on Wikipedia, here are the Islamic translations of the archangels...

In Islam,[15] the named archangels include: • Jibrail (or Jibraaiyl or Jibril or Gabriel in English and the Bible). Jibra'il is the Archangel responsible for revealing the Qur'an to Muhammad. Jibra'il is known as the angel who communicates with the Prophets. He is mentioned specifically by name and as the Holy Spirit in the Qur'an. (Gabriel, for those that don't know it, was also the archangel that announced to Mary that she was expecting Jesus)
• Mikail (or Mikaaiyl or Michael). Michael is often depicted as the Archangel of mercy who is responsible of bringing rain and thunder to Earth.

• Israfil (or Israafiyl or Raphael). According to the Hadith, Israfil is the Angel responsible for signalling the coming of Judgment Day by blowing a horn and sending out a Blast of Truth. It translates to Hebrew as Raphael.

My only suggestion on the name Mikha'il is to spell it without the apostrophe as that could be a headache for all in the future. Just my two cents. I would just spell it Mikhail and he'll be a-ok.

Interesting. Just got home and asked my husband about this. He said Moroccans will use the name Jibrail but not Mikha'il or Israfil. He's not sure why that is.

I'm sure it has to do with the importance of the Archangel Gabriel in his announcement of the Quran to the Prophet Mohammed - I would assume it is out of reverence to this historical even.

From my understanding, some scholars consider it taboo to name children after any angels.... never figured out why some name them Jibreel though.

Now you know about Jibreel. But I think it is a shame that those scholars view all those children named Michael, Raphael, and Gabriel and all derivatives of those names as just little taboo children who they and their parents just aren't going to get to heaven because of a name. Seems a little strange to me.

Whoaaaaa!!! I don't know what you were just reading but I didn't say any scholars said someone wouldn't go to heaven because of their name! Go back and read it again please!

Alhamdulillah

Female

Libya

2008-07-24 20:18:00

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Isn't Mikha'il the name of one of the angels, according to Islam? My husband and I discussed angels a while back, and I remember similarities to the Biblical names.

Interesting. Just got home and asked my husband about this. He said Moroccans will use the name Jibrail but not Mikha'il or Israfil. He's not sure why that is.

I'm sure it has to do with the importance of the Archangel Gabriel in his announcement of the Quran to the Prophet Mohammed - I would assume it is out of reverence to this historical even.

From my understanding, some scholars consider it taboo to name children after any angels.... never figured out why some name them Jibreel though.

Alhamdulillah

Female

Libya

2008-07-24 12:57:00

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I can honestly say that if I have another boy....I dunno if I'll allow him to be circumcized coz the infant they were performing the procedure on was crying so hard and loud and he couldn't do anything to stop the pain. It was so horrible.....

I'd much rather have it done as a baby so he won't remember for more than a few days at most than to not have it done, and when he's grown and finds out that it's a requirement in the religion, he has to have it done as an adult. I'd think that would be WAY more traumatic IMHO.

I don't know about today but medicaid paid for my son's 11 years ago.

Alhamdulillah

Female

Libya

2008-07-16 16:34:00

The Sunnah is at 7 days old but I don't think it's a big deal to do it in the hospital when he's born and then have the party when he's a week old. I wouldn't wait too much past 7 days though because it seems like the older they are the more it would hurt and the longer the pain would linger. My son was done in the hospital when he was born and he was over it as soon as he got to nurse lol.

Alhamdulillah

Female

Libya

2008-07-16 11:33:00

Iraq Banned From Beijing Olympics

Iraq banned from Beijing Olympics amid feud
By BRIAN MURPHY, Associated Press Writer

BAGHDAD (AP)—Just two weeks before the start of the Olympics, Iraq was told Thursday it’s not welcome in Beijing because of a political feud in Baghdad that angered the games’ guardians and exiled a country that arrived to a roaring ovation at the opening ceremony four years ago.

The International Olympic Committee told Iraqi sports officials in a letter that it would uphold its ban imposed in June after the government in Baghdad replaced its national Olympic panel with members not recognized by the IOC.

The IOC had called the move unacceptable government interference.

In Iraq, it also smacked of the lingering sectarian bitterness between the new Shiite power brokers and the Sunnis who were once favored under Saddam Hussein—whose son, Odai, ran the nation’s Olympic committee as a personal fiefdom and was accused of torturing athletes who came up short.

“Clearly we’d very much like to have seen Iraq’s athletes in Beijing,” said IOC spokeswoman Giselle Davies. “We are very disappointed that the athletes have been so ill-served by their own government’s actions.”

But Davies suggested there was still a possibility for last-ditch talks to salvage Iraq’s place before the games open Aug. 8.

“If there can be some movement and if a resolution can be found, that’s still an open door,” she told CNN. When asked if there’s a window of about a week, she said “Correct.”

At the 2004 Summer Games in Athens, the crowd at the opening ceremony rose to its feet as the small Iraqi team entered the stadium for the first Olympics since the fall of Saddam. The team was led by Najah Ali, a 106-pound boxer who carried the red-white-and-green flag. Later, the pint-sized underdog pumped his fists after winning a bout in an early round and shouted from the ring that his victory was “a symbol of freedom.”

Iraq’s soccer team also became one of the feel-good stories of Athens when it made a surprising run to the semifinals—only to be defeated by Italy 1-0 in the bronze-medal game.

This year, at least seven Iraqi athletes were expected to compete in Beijing in sports including weightlifting, rowing and archery. Their spots were given to other nations by the IOC.

Iraqi sports officials reacted with disbelief and outrage as they watched the efforts for Beijing vanish. Iraq has only one medal—a bronze in weightlifting in 1960—since its first appearance at the Summer Olympics in 1948.

“Unjust,” said Fawzi Akram, a member of the sports committee in parliament. “Iraq is passing through an exception period and should be given special consideration.”

The official who received the IOC’s letter—Jassim Mohammed Jaafar, the minister of sport and youth—grumbled: “We reject this unfair decision.”

But it’s been coming to a head for months.

In May, Iraq’s government dissolved the 11-member National Olympic Committee. Among the claims was that it was illegitimate because it lacked enough members for a legal quorum—even though four members of the committee, including its chief, were kidnapped two years ago and their fates remain unknown.

There’s also possible echoes of Iraq’s sectarian rifts. The Youth and Sports Ministry is dominated by Shiites who also control the government. Iraq’s Olympic Committee had included several holdovers from the Saddam era.

The IOC banned Iraq in June, but said it was open for talks. Iraq, too, promised to meet the IOC and present “solid evidence” of corruption, unfair elections and other alleged failings by the committee.

But on Thursday, the IOC said the deadline to open negotiations had run out — just as athletes begin their final preparations for Beijing.

“We are deeply sorry for this result,” said the IOC letter.

Iraq is not the first country to miss an Olympics because of government interference.

In the most recent case, Afghanistan was prevented from sending a team to the Sydney Games in 2000 when the Taliban regime’s heavy hand extended to sports.

The U.S. Olympic Committee also had a stake in the Iraq team, signing an agreement in 2006 to help with training for Beijing.

White House press secretary Dana Perino expressed disappointment.

“I’m sure that the Iraqi athletes who have trained so hard and were finally going to represent a country that is free and sovereign and working to establish its democracy, they have to be terribly disappointed, and I’m disappointed for the athletes as well,” she said.

While many Iraqi officials rallied behind the government, the mood among fans was sour.

“The (IOC) decision will be a catastrophe for Iraqi sports,” said Dia Hussein, coach of the Iraq Police Soccer team, which plays in the national league. “I blame the Iraqi government for bringing this on the country.”

Yaroub Kadim, a 22-year-old university student, described sports as “one of the only real lifelines connecting everyone in the country.”

There’s a cruel irony in the suspicions that sectarian power plays may have sunk Iraq’s Olympic hopes. Sports has become one of the few genuine sources of national unity since the U.S.-led invasion in 2003.

In July 2007, Iraqis erupted with joy when their national team—the Lions of the Two Rivers—won the Asia Cup. Sunnis, Shiites and Kurds poured into streets lined with blast walls to celebrate, shoot guns in the air and bask in a common Iraqi pride.

The soccer team was also hit by a ban by the sport’s governing body, but was lifted in time for Iraq to compete in the World Cup qualifying tournament. Sports figures also have joined the long rolls of civilians killed in the war.

The Olympic cycling coach, national wrestling coach, a soccer federation member and a prominent volleyball player have been killed, most in 2006 during the height of sectarian slayings.

Alhamdulillah

Female

Libya

2008-07-24 23:14:00

Ohmigod! Ohmigod you guys!

Mabrookalations!!!

Alhamdulillah

Female

Libya

2008-07-25 19:55:00

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I also can't, for the life of me, figure out how they get the samboosa to be so thick and soft after frying because my eggrolls and my failed attempt at samboosa are both crispy. I tried baking some once to see if that did the trick.... it didn't.

I would try double-wrapping them.

Now there's an idea!! Seems really obvious too....

I should have thought of that lol

Did you oil them before baking? If I make vegetable wraps using giant wonton pasta sheets, I brush them in olive oil and then bake them. If I pull them out before crispy, they are very soft.

No, I haven't tried that either. I just found out that someone else is bringing samboosa today so I'm going to ask her how she makes it

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I think I'll try them your way first to see how they are (and leave out the stuff you leave out). After that I can always modify them if I want. Thanks again!

Ok, but keep in mind that the stuff I leave out is good.... I only leave it out because my hubby doesn't like it lol. The noodles give them more of a filling so you get more with less meat and the fish sauce gives it a unique flavor (it just has a fishy smell that my hubby can't stand). I haven't figured out why he doesn't like the dried mushrooms because he likes mushrooms.... I guess because it's dried so it looks weird.

Alhamdulillah

Female

Libya

2008-07-26 14:19:00

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I would try double-wrapping them.

Now there's an idea!! Seems really obvious too....

I should have thought of that lol

Alhamdulillah

Female

Libya

2008-07-25 22:47:00

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I have the recipe on my multiply page. This is the direct link to it http://veiledprinces...reviews/item/10

Thankyou so much. I looked at the recipe and it doesn't look too hard. I am already planning when I can try it!

It's not really hard..... it's mostly just time consuming but well worth the effort. The great thing about them is that you can add or omit things to your liking. Some ppl use other meat besides ground beef.... The Vietnames way is with ground pork but since I don't eat port I use beef instead. I've also tried it with ground turkey and it's good too but the turkey cooks a little too quickly for me.
You could also put peppers in if you like spicy foods (I don't) and could even experiment with different flavors really.
I've tried to make the ME/NA version of eggrolls (samoosa or samboosa) but I butchered that pretty badly. It was a really great recipe too found here (I added a little ground chicken that the recipe doesn't call for) but when I fried them the middles burned out of every one of them!

I even tried frying them on low and they still burned right through the middle

Needless to say, we had empty samboosa shells with dinner that night because we don't waste food in my house

Alhamdulillah

Female

Libya

2008-07-25 22:39:00

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Hi everyone, i just got approved. My 130 only, but hey I'll take it!

Woo Hoo!!

(I'm dancing entirely too much today lol)

I'm tired and hungry.... we had couscous after jumu'ah and then went shopping for a while.... I've got some sauce left over from lunch so I think I'll make iftaat (thareed) {{{{ again!! }}}} that's my new favorite dish

I'm making eggrolls for a sisters meetup tomorrow afternoon and I'm trying to decide now if I want to mix everything and roll them all tonight so all I have to do in the morning is fry them or if I'll just wait and do it all in the morning..... it's hard to predict if you'll be more or less lazy in the day to follow!

make them tomorrow after coffee u will have more energy.
i do all of my hard work between 6-9am, it all goes downhill after that.

You are the opposite of me. I have the most energy between 9pm and midnight. So annoying since it doesn't go well with my work hours!

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Eggrolls, that sounds good!

My husband likes them too... which is saying a lot since he doesn't like Asian food and complains a bit if I cook it too often. When I went to buy the eggroll papers I picked up two packs (50 sheets) and he was like "you're not making any for us?????!

" so I got two more packs.... that's 100 eggrolls I get to hand roll.........

How do you make them if you don't mind an explanation. That really does sound good. My husband isn't here yet, but inshallah he will be here soon and I want to have lots of different things for him to try.

I have the recipe on my multiply page. This is the direct link to it http://veiledprinces...reviews/item/10

Alhamdulillah

Female

Libya

2008-07-25 20:52:00

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Eggrolls, that sounds good!

" so I got two more packs.... that's 100 eggrolls I get to hand roll.........

Alhamdulillah

Female

Libya

2008-07-25 20:35:00

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Hi everyone, i just got approved. My 130 only, but hey I'll take it!

Woo Hoo!!

Alhamdulillah

Female

Libya

2008-07-25 20:16:00

ANOTHER OMIGOD OMIGOD

Great news! Congrats!!

Alhamdulillah

Female

Libya

2008-07-25 20:03:00

Travel from Egypt

My husband came on a K1 from Libya using a one way ticket... they have military service there too but maybe it's more strict in Egypt?

Alhamdulillah

Female

Libya

2008-05-24 19:05:00

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You know what I love about America? I love that if a woman choses to be conservative, we know she does it because she wants to. No one is making her be that way. You can't say that about most middle eastern countries. Many women are conservative there only because the law or their families force them to. If its not in your heart, it doesn't really count.

What's great about America is you can spend years teaching your children to be modest and righteous and all they have to do is walk at the door and into their school to unlearn everything you've taught them because no one holds the other ppl around them accountable for their immodesty like they do in conservative muslim countries.

Alhamdulillah

Female

Libya

2008-07-27 22:46:00

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ganja, next time can we just get the cliff notes version?

I enjoyed the read.

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May we all be rightly guided.

Ameen.

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You got to love a country whose president uses young, beautiful, virgin women to guard him and one has even died saving his life. Here is a link with a pic of some of his guards. If Charles could be so kind and post the pic I would appreciate it.

http://www.google.co.../...=image&cd=1

I'm not sure I follow.... are you saying that women in Libya shouldn't have the same right to have the same job in secret service as a man or is it that you think they should be deflowerd before they'd be able to do the job effectively?

Are there no women in the secret service in America?

I'm saying I find it highly suspect that he has this many beautiful female guards around him all the time because he wants "equality". The fact they all wear make-up, do their hair and nails. These are not characteristics an Islamic nation would want to showcase to the world, at least in my opinion.

Perhaps he's trying to counter the negative image the world has cast on him by showing that women in his country are free to act unislamicly if they so choose

Nonetheless, the majority of women in Libya do not look or act like that while the majority here do so Libya still wins in that regard.

Edited by Alhamdulillah, 27 July 2008 - 10:31 PM.

Alhamdulillah

Female

Libya

2008-07-27 22:30:00

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Are there no women in the secret service in America?

Alhamdulillah

Female

Libya

2008-07-27 22:22:00

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I would like to make it clear that, contrary to the common perception, there is no allowance in Islam for a Muslim man to marry more than one woman just because he wants to. The idea that he can rises from pre-existing cultural norms, not from the practice of the Prophet nor the Quran.

What kills me about this and so many other interpretations that have no true support in the text is that they are often taken from ONE verse, and other verses either tempering it or discouraging it are ignored. This is the case with polygyny in Islam. The verse allowing it also limited it, and was revealed at a time when battles left many widows and unaffiliated females that needed protection. It was a form of social welfare for the time. However, Allah strongly and repeatedly warns against the kinds of abuses that have become associated with it. He warns of hellfire for those who exceed His limits. It is an irony that Muslims who consider themselves to be in step with tradition engage so readily in a practice that Allah has, in fact, cautioned them against.

One must always be aware that Muslims are not representative of the Message of the Quran. Sadly, most don't know what the text means, nor do they know the history that contextualizes the words and gives them denotation. I advise caution with websites; unfortunately, many of them are serving a cultural paradigm or a sect rather than the Straight Path. There is soooo much that is believed and defended that cannot be supported by the Quran or Sunnah alone. How much of the Truth we have been able to discern from culture, tradition, and hubris will be our test on the Day of Judgment.

You have your opinions and others have theirs

The thing is, everyone is free to have their own opinions, but not free to have their own facts. What I said is fact, not opinion.

No, what you stated is your opinion of the facts, not just the facts.
It's your opinion that men have to have certain reasons for marrying more than one wife while the Islamic evidence does not back that opinion up. 'Aisha had a fiance' before the prophet but was married to the prophet instead.... she wasn't in dire need of a husband because of war, nor was she a widow.

I do agree that there are conditions that Allah set that a man must follow when marrying more than one wife.... of course, they are no different than the conditions he must follow when marrying the first one to be honest.
Scholars do not make rulings on polygyny based on one verse in the Quran, this is also your opinion and not a fact. They also take into account ahadith showing the Sunnah of the prophet sal allahu alayhi wa salaam and his companions and how they practiced it. This is why I like to read what actual scholars have to say about these matters and not just read it off message boards on the internet

Alhamdulillah

Female

Libya

2008-07-27 22:11:00

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On July 24, the government allowed six foreign health workers, detained since 1999 and accused of intentionally infecting 426 children with HIV in 1999, to depart the country.

They should have been put to death or at the very least infected with AIDS themselves and allowed to die in the same manner as those children they infected with the virus!

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According to the U.S. Department of State’s annual human rights report for 2004, Libya’s authoritarian regime continued to have a poor record in the area of human rights.

I don't trust the US Dept of State's opinon on human rights.... if women aren't free to ####### it up in the streets then they don't consider them free. Freedom by American standards is a joke.

Alhamdulillah

Female

Libya

2008-07-27 22:02:00

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Actually, in my religion (Catholic) you don't abandon your spouse or your children, as divorce is not permitted. You're with your spouse until you die.

What if your husband is abusive? My ex is Catholic and used to beat me almost daily.... ten years seems like a lifetime.... I'd probably have killed myself if I wouldn't have been allowed to divorce him..... actually, I probably would have killed myself if I didn't have my kids to think about. Thank God I found the stregnth to get myself and my children away from him and found a good husband who would never treat me like that.

Alhamdulillah

Female

Libya

2008-07-27 21:37:00

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THE ISLAMIC REPUBLIC CONDEMNS A 13 YEAR OLD GIRL TO STONING
By Safa Haeri Iran Press Service

I plan on moving to Libya, not Iran..... why don't you post something about Libya?

Alhamdulillah

Female

Libya

2008-07-27 21:31:00

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I don't need a visa.... I am a citizen.
I am not free to leave..... since you don't know me or my situation you are welcome to keep your opinons to yourself.

I don't know your situation, but unless you are imprisoned, you are free to leave. Furthermore, you can renounce your US citizenship at any time. It can be done.

If you'd like to do it, it can be done. Good luck!

Some people are parents here with shared custody. Free to leave is a loose term.

If the sentiment is strong enough, as it appears to be, some people will renounce their custody to their children and leave their country of birth - it has happened.

Yet another wonderful part of American culture? The abdonment of children?

Alhamdulillah

Female

Libya

2008-07-27 20:57:00

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You are in for a surprise, VP. I worked with family law jurists in the Muslim world for 22 years. It's no bed of roses there either.

It'll be better than here.... probably not perfect but better than here nonetheless. I can't wait to move to Libya.... or Saudia if that becomes a possibility.

Alhamdulillah

Female

Libya

2008-07-27 20:25:00

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I don't need a visa.... I am a citizen.
I am not free to leave..... since you don't know me or my situation you are welcome to keep your opinons to yourself.

I can assure you that as soon as I'm "free to leave" this place will be a distant memory.

Alhamdulillah

Female

Libya

2008-07-27 20:08:00

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I don't need a visa.... I am a citizen.
I am not free to leave..... since you don't know me or my situation you are welcome to keep your opinons to yourself.

I usually do, but your statements of how awful America is I had to say something, I am the first one to point out our countries faults, but to say that the Middle East is so much better is really a little far fetched. You just seem so unhappy with the country, with all the freedoms we have, but with freedom comes things we see we don't always agree on, but that is the beauty of America at least we can say what we feel without worrying about being arrested, oh well, at least we used to.

If America is such a awful country why do they all want to come here?

IMO, muslim countries ARE much better because they have values that the US doesn't. I don't agree with all the fake "freedoms" in America.
You don't really think everyone wants to come to the US because it's such a great, safe place to raise their children? Or because there are so many spiritual advantages to living here? The only reason most ppl come to this country is to make money and go back home

Alhamdulillah

Female

Libya

2008-07-27 19:34:00

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Why would that start a fight?

Because it is regarding Islam.

We are going to have to agree to disagree about affairs in the west because clearly neither one of us are going to change our POV!

I have no problems with agreeing to disagree... what I have issue with is the idea that it's OK to talk trash about Islam or its laws are on here all the time and muslims on the board who are repeatedly offended by these remarks are always expected to suck it up and get over it.
It's more bothersome that so many of the ones making these comments are married to muslims but to each their own.

Alhamdulillah

Female

Libya

2008-07-27 19:28:00

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You have your opinions and others have theirs

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Every country has corruption but even the most corrupted muslim country in the world is better a thousand times than the US.... it's not accurate or fair at all to say that muslim countries are just as bad as the US because, if that was true, they would also have an epidemic of unwed teenage mothers like we have here.... or strung out druggies on street corners.... or 16,000+ deaths each year due to drunk driving. Disgusting....

Than if you feel so much hate towards America, why bother getting a visa? I am just don't have words, I guess you agree with stoning as a way of dealing with sin. If you have an unwed mother in some of these countries you won't hear about it, or you see her being stoned to death. If you hate America you are free to leave at any time, and go to a place you will be happier.

I don't need a visa.... I am a citizen.
I am not free to leave..... since you don't know me or my situation you are welcome to keep your opinons to yourself.

Alhamdulillah

Female

Libya

2008-07-27 19:24:00

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I wonder why you'd marry someone who follows a religion you hate? Oh well.... Que Sera, Sera!!

I wanted to correct that too! There's so many times I want to correct typos/misspellings that I see on here (cuz I'm ####### abt that stuff when it happens repeatedly).
Good question..........

Does that help answer the question. Do you muslimias seriously believe I hate Islam because I question it? And why doesn't anyone answer those questions for me about the several wives & beating wives acceptance? Everytime I bring it up it becomes a moot point on here. What I don't understand is how someone who isn't raised that way comes to accept those beliefs?

You don't understand about men being allowed more than one wife because you live in america and have been told your whole life that it's bad and wrong when it's not. If you're christian you should know that prophets and other important ppl in the bible had multiple wives so I don't see what the big issue is or why American women make such a huge deal about it. I understand we're jealous.... I am too but it's taken to whole new levels with American women threatening divorce and other such punishments if a man does something Allah has allowed him to do. I'd much rather my husband have another wife than to have an affair but in America affairs are widely accepted while having more than one wife is illegal.... it's a crappy culture that prefers men to have affairs instead of marrying the other woman.

i don't get what the above has to do with islam. none of the prophet's multiple marriages were ever out of lust, or to keep him from having an "affair". not that he didn't feel genuine love and affection towards the women he was married to, but the marriages were born out of those women's need to have a husband to help support them when there was a shortage of available men because of war, etc.

No, not all of his marriages, or the multiple marriages of the sahaba, were for that reason.
Nonetheless, I'm not saying that's the reason for a man to have more than one wife.... what I'm saying is that the culture that prefers the evil over the righteous shouldn't be used to judge the laws in Islam.

Alhamdulillah

Female

Libya

2008-07-27 14:04:00

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Speaking of corrupted muslim countries..... why do you suppose they are so corrupted today? Because of American influence..... they see our movies and TV shows and want to follow the American dream of being as trashy as you can possibly be n'autho billah!
But with all this, Islam is bad because it allows more than one wife! Pfft! Whatever.

I will agree totally that the US and the West in general have played a hand in the corruption of many Muslim countries, but they have been committing immoral acts long before there was a United States. who do you blame for that?

Shaytaan has been tempting ppl with evil since the first man but the US has played a major role recently as acting as his agent in spreading his corruption to all ends of the earth, far and wide. It didn't begin with the US even.... before the US other western-style socities played their own roles in creating the world we know today. IMHO, the US is merely the end result of all that corruption heaped one on top of the other for centuries.
However, in the end, no man can blame another for his sins.... Allah will hold us each responsible for our own sins.

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Interesting that the Bible was brought up.

2 Cor. 11:3-4: 3 But I am afraid that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent's cunning, your minds may
somehow be led astray from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ. 4 For if someone comes to you and
preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough.

You know that is going to start a fight Nagi. I'm just sad I have to now and might miss it

Why would that start a fight?

Alhamdulillah

Female

Libya

2008-07-27 13:59:00

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I disagree that it's not culturally accepted.

If it were only a matter of how to adjust our laws then they wouldn't prosecute violators so harshly. A man can live with two women and not marry either one of them... or marry one and not the other but still live with both and it's perfectly OK here, legally. That's disgusting.

If it were culturally acceptable, then there would not be a negative stigma associated with it. How many people get divorced over affairs? it is a named legal reason to do so. WHat I hear you saying over and over is that we are ALL OK with this idea of affairs and that any American can have an affair on any other American and we all accept this as fine and good. Right? Then why is it called cheating? Why do marriages break up over it? Why isn't everyone down at the swinger's club? If that is your perception of American marriage, I wonder where you grew up! I'm from "sin city" and even the most amoral people realized it wasn't the majority culture no matter that they thought it should be.

Also, changing the entirety of the legal code is not an easy thing to do. you would have to change the very social nature of the country. The above is only accepted as deviant and marginal IF all parties are in agreement. You have people who do this, even Muslims, in the US.

I would venture to say that there are a LOT of swingers in this country LOL. Maybe a lot more than you'd like to think or believe.
All marriages do not break up when one of the spouses has an affair.... in fact there are many who will look the other way or forgive the cheater when they find out about it.
I find it strange that a man having two wives is looked down on because he sleeps with both women during the same time period (not at the same time) but it's OK, openly accepted and glorified in this country if he's had 20+ partners (and married none) before marrying his wife.

Alhamdulillah

Female

Libya

2008-07-27 13:49:00