ForumTitleContentMemberSexCountryDate/Time
Middle East and North AfricaWhy do VJ MENA members fight so much with each other?
QUOTE (Gaby&Talbert @ Jul 20 2008, 02:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
why does it seem the mena women aren't let's say the prettiest girl on the block?

Speak for yourself! LOL
AlhamdulillahFemaleLibya2008-07-20 19:15:00
Middle East and North AfricaCurious MENA question...
QUOTE (Ganja_Girl @ May 27 2008, 02:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I do things because it is the right thing to do, I just know this deep down,

That's called fitrah in Arabic. smile.gif We are all born in this natural state but it's our surroundings who influence us to change from it as we grow up in this world. That's why God sent messengers with books and laws.... so we'd remain upon that natural state of worshipping Him and obeying His laws that he engrained into our souls upon creation even when our surroundings tempt us to change from it.
AlhamdulillahFemaleLibya2008-05-27 14:48:00
Middle East and North AfricaCurious MENA question...
QUOTE (Virtual wife @ May 27 2008, 01:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'll answer your question specifically. I'm a Muslim and a mother-in-law. If any of my 5 kids, male or female, showed up with an atheist, agnostic or secularist with the intent to marry, we would have a serious problem. This is not allowed in my faith and I don't understand why any practicing Muslim would accept it from their Muslim son. I know most would not accept it from a daughter. We're sending our sons to hell with such indulgences, even if they only intend to get a green card thru marriage, two wrongs don't make a right.

Ditto.... all except the MIL part smile.gif And that I wouldn't accept my daughter marrying anyone other than a muslim man smile.gif
AlhamdulillahFemaleLibya2008-05-27 01:08:00
Middle East and North AfricaCurious MENA question...
QUOTE (julianna @ May 27 2008, 12:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sorry, proof that the Tanakh is altered in any way.

I'm sorry, I should be more clear.... I know Christians consider the OT to be part of the "bible" but when I say "bible" I mean the injeel which is, supposedly, the NT.
As far as the torah.... who authored Deuteronomy? Moses couldn't have possibly authored it and wrote his own obituary in Deu. 35:5-7. Also, there are other contradictions in the OT that proves it's not the actual, unaltered words of God because God doesn't make errors.

As far as the NT, there are many missing books, not to mention that there is nothing that was written in Jesus' lifetime or even immediately after he departed this Earth.... not until at least 50 years later. Then there is the issue with Paul, a well known pagan/jewish christian slayer coming along with this grand story that Jesus never spoke of and is actually against everything Jesus taught.
AlhamdulillahFemaleLibya2008-05-27 00:43:00
Middle East and North AfricaCurious MENA question...
QUOTE (sereia @ May 27 2008, 12:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Alhamdulillah @ May 26 2008, 08:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Ganja_Girl @ May 26 2008, 11:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I am more of what you call a free thinker

And us religious folk are a bunch of lug heads? blink.gif
Scientists can be, and frequently are, wrong!

QUOTE (geenee @ May 26 2008, 11:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Islam is also very patient and understanding... Only God can truly be the judge of what is acceptable and not. Discouraged is a better word

No, the Quran is quite clear that only chaste women from the ppl of the book are halal for muslim men to marry (other than muslim women of course).


So pretty much everyone on VJ-MENA were not an acceptable mate to marry their Muslim husbands! whistling.gif

Are you saying the majority of women in VJ MENA are unchaste?
AlhamdulillahFemaleLibya2008-05-26 23:20:00
Middle East and North AfricaCurious MENA question...
QUOTE (julianna @ May 27 2008, 12:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Alhamdulillah @ May 26 2008, 11:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You have to read it and refer to the explainations and Sunnah to fully understand the meanings. The bible, however, is confusing because it's been altered and has men's words mixed with God's.

God does abrogate laws or give different laws to different ppl at different times....


(Sorry, I cut up your quote, just wanted to make myself clear) I disagree with both points, and I have yet to see evidence for the former point you make. You have proof of verse insertions and removals, but those are known... I'd like to see proof of this in the Tanakh other than the assertion in the Qu'ran/Sunnah.

What exactly are you asking for proof of? That the bible is not God's unaltered words or that God has changed laws over time?

Edited by Alhamdulillah, 26 May 2008 - 11:19 PM.

AlhamdulillahFemaleLibya2008-05-26 23:18:00
Middle East and North AfricaCurious MENA question...
QUOTE (Ganja_Girl @ May 26 2008, 11:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have read the Quran, 4 times, also the bible 7 times, so I need to re-read them because I didn't find many answers. Both books are confusing, I have to say the bible is over the top confusing, but yea to be such a divine book, it didn’t leave me much inspired. Lots of rules, so many different rules, makes no sense to me, but more power to you, that you understand. I also noticed that there are tons of contradictions, one time they state this is the way to do things, the next they break that and state that God had told them to do this now. But when they hear the word of this God, no one is around, strange. Books are hard reads to be sure, I even did a presentation on Islam in college, so I am familiar with some of the beliefs, but I am no means an expert.

You have to read it and refer to the explainations and Sunnah to fully understand the meanings. The bible, however, is confusing because it's been altered and has men's words mixed with God's.

God does abrogate laws or give different laws to different ppl at different times.... He has His reasons and it's not necessarily for us to understand. I don't understand the level of arrogance some ppl have to think they have to understand or comprehend everything God does in order to believe in Him. If we were capable of comprehending everything about God, we wouldn't be human.
AlhamdulillahFemaleLibya2008-05-26 23:00:00
Middle East and North AfricaCurious MENA question...
QUOTE (geenee @ May 26 2008, 11:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We also need to remember todays day and age has very much changed from the days of the holy quran.

I don't believe religion is meant to be changed by men because of times changing....
AlhamdulillahFemaleLibya2008-05-26 22:55:00
Middle East and North AfricaCurious MENA question...
QUOTE (Ganja_Girl @ May 26 2008, 11:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
To claim that my husband is somehow going to die a fiery death in the bowels of hell is a little insulting and really does not help the cause for religion or God. How do you feel about separation of church and State?

I'm not the one who sends ppl to hell and I never said your husband is going anywhere. I don't make such statements. I just said the majority ruling is that it's considered zina (fornication) to marry a non-believer (other than chaste ppl of the book).

I am against the serparation of religion and the govt.
AlhamdulillahFemaleLibya2008-05-26 22:37:00
Middle East and North AfricaCurious MENA question...
QUOTE (Ganja_Girl @ May 26 2008, 11:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
NO I never meant anything negative about being a free thinker, what I do mean is I ask a lot of questions, that is all. Of course science is wrong, but we also admit to the fact, and go back and re-draw the plans. Do you ever ask yourself why so much misery in the world? Why a baby dies in her mother's arms, or a young father is shot in an arm robbery and leaves a wife and kids? Why so much hurt and hardship? Just things I wonder about, and this is nothing to say you have your faith and for that I am very happy for you.

I'm not against science GG, in fact, my faith encourages it but I don't rely more on science than what the Creator has told us. One is flawed while the other is not. I'm not saying the men who interpret God's laws aren't flawed, they obviously are since they're humans too.
Imam Ash-Shafi'i said: I believe my opinion to be the truth, while entertaining the possibility that it is wrong. star_smile.gif

I have asked myself these questions you posed but I found all the answers in the Quran.
AlhamdulillahFemaleLibya2008-05-26 22:34:00
Middle East and North AfricaCurious MENA question...
QUOTE (Ganja_Girl @ May 26 2008, 11:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I am more of what you call a free thinker

And us religious folk are a bunch of lug heads? blink.gif
Scientists can be, and frequently are, wrong!

QUOTE (geenee @ May 26 2008, 11:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Islam is also very patient and understanding... Only God can truly be the judge of what is acceptable and not. Discouraged is a better word

No, the Quran is quite clear that only chaste women from the ppl of the book are halal for muslim men to marry (other than muslim women of course).
AlhamdulillahFemaleLibya2008-05-26 22:28:00
Middle East and North AfricaCurious MENA question...
QUOTE (geenee @ May 26 2008, 10:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Virtual wife @ May 26 2008, 07:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm especially curious about practicing Muslim men marrying agnostic, atheist or secular Christian and Jewish women. They don't catch heck like Muslim women who marry Christian or Jewish men do, and rarely are called out to justify it.

In the Muslim culture it is believed that the man is the decision maker on the childrens religion. This is why is it ok for men to marry out of his religion but it is harder to accept from women being ... it is believed that the man is the decision maker in the childs religion
This is why they discourage woman from marrying out of their religion

It's only acceptable (religiously) for him to marry outside of the faith if he's marrying a chaste Christian or Jewish women.... other non-muslims are not allowed for him to marry and he would be considered a fornicator for having a sexual relationship with her if she was other than muslim or a chaste Christian or Jewess since this marriage isn't valid in Islam.
AlhamdulillahFemaleLibya2008-05-26 22:11:00
Middle East and North AfricaCurious MENA question...
QUOTE (Virtual wife @ May 26 2008, 10:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
They don't catch heck like Muslim women who marry Christian or Jewish men do, and rarely are called out to justify it.

I've noticed that too and it's wrong but I think this stems from ignorance. Most muslims are aware of the fact that muslim women aren't allowed to marry non-muslim men but it seems like many muslims aren't aware that a muslim man is only allowed to marry chaste Christian or Jewish women and not those that are non-practicing or non-believers in general (other than ppl of the book).
AlhamdulillahFemaleLibya2008-05-26 22:09:00
Middle East and North AfricaJust wanted to share my news with you all!
Mabrookalations!!! It's about time! 16 months???? mad.gif
AlhamdulillahFemaleLibya2008-05-27 19:06:00
Middle East and North AfricaI think they wore us out
QUOTE (morocco4ever @ May 30 2008, 04:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't know what he is going to tell you, but I would insist on knowing ALL of his account names and passwords, then I would log into them quickly before he has a chance to delete. Sorry, but I think he will try to smooth it over, but if he hesitates to give you this info then this will give you a little more insight on his intentions.

My husband and I know each others screen names and passwords for each other. I have nothing to hide, and neither do I, so neither of us had an issue giving each other the info. Not just that but we are constantly asking each other to check each others emails when we are looking for something.

Some like to keep a personal life apart from their spouse, which is their business, but it appears he has crossed the line. You have earned some rights to know here.

He may have already deleted anything he didn't want her to see.... and who's to say he'd give her ALL his accounts anyway?
And what's to prevent him from making new accounts after she has access to these?
AlhamdulillahFemaleLibya2008-05-30 17:12:00
Middle East and North AfricaI think they wore us out
QUOTE (BarbSami @ May 30 2008, 04:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (ME~n~HIM @ May 30 2008, 02:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Belinda, I think it's pretty obvious what's going on here and IMO it's totally unacceptable behavior. I agree w/ whoever said "RUN AND RUN FAST". However, many women have put up w/ far worse, so, clearly it's your decision to put up w/ whatever you decide to put up w/. It's my understanding that he's not even here yet, correct? It's highly unlikely he'll change once he's here. Let him go to Finland.......... whistling.gif

If he is hiding things from you now, dont it make you wonder whatelse he is not honest about. I wish I had saw red flags before I married then I would have had the chance to see was it worth it . I know because I have been there and believe me once trust is gone ITS GONE.
At the end of the day the final decision is yours. I hope you resolve your concerns in a manner that make you feel good about you.

Barb

I agree 100% with Barb. It's not likely to stop when he gets here and you'll only feel worse then.
AlhamdulillahFemaleLibya2008-05-30 15:13:00
Middle East and North AfricaI think they wore us out
QUOTE (Nagishkaw @ May 30 2008, 03:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Mr too, Bridget! Greasy deep fried cod with lemon and loads of tartar sauce.

We had shrimp last night.... innocent.gif
AlhamdulillahFemaleLibya2008-05-30 14:32:00
Middle East and North AfricaI think they wore us out
QUOTE (Nagishkaw @ May 30 2008, 03:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Compare it to fishing. Men know that when they catch a good sized fish, they put it in the bucket instead of throwing it back. They cast their line out in the water again, even though they have a fish already, they always hold out in hopes that they will land an even bigger and better fish.

**coughcoughbullshitecoughcough**
AlhamdulillahFemaleLibya2008-05-30 14:31:00
Middle East and North AfricaI think they wore us out
QUOTE (wahrania @ May 30 2008, 11:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think he has given up on your visa.

So he's just after a visa then? Even more reason to run now while you still have an ignore button to get rid of him and his games.
He's not likely to stop talking to other girls once he has his visa anyway if that's all he's after. It'll just be easier for him to meet up with the trollops that couldn't afford to sponsor him once he's here! mad.gif
AlhamdulillahFemaleLibya2008-05-30 14:07:00
Middle East and North AfricaI think they wore us out
RUN!!! Trust me!! RUN hard and RUN fast but RUN!!! good.gif
This is not likely to change.
AlhamdulillahFemaleLibya2008-05-30 14:04:00
Middle East and North AfricaFriday pieday
I need a freaking pie! It's been a rough week!
AlhamdulillahFemaleLibya2008-05-29 23:48:00
Middle East and North AfricaHump Day!!! Camel Pix Posting Day!
QUOTE (amal @ Jun 4 2008, 04:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (just_Jackie @ Jun 4 2008, 12:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
mmm potato chips from the work vending machine...I affectionately call it 'lunch' 2 more hours and I am free free free! Measure a house on the way home, then pick up Alexis.

Had so much fun with my weedeater, I will do more today! Thanks for all the tips yesterday on how to use and NOT use it. I was swinging it all over the place and my toes were in grave danger. Today will be all out armor! Glasses, pants, shirt and shoes!



wait wait wait.. so are u saying that the last time u did this..u did it topless??? blink.gif

I didn't even catch that! I bet ur neighbors had fun watching Jackie! laughing.gif

Edited by Alhamdulillah, 04 June 2008 - 08:43 PM.

AlhamdulillahFemaleLibya2008-06-04 20:42:00
Middle East and North AfricaHump Day!!! Camel Pix Posting Day!
Oh sorry it's hump day... guess I should post a camel pic....

AlhamdulillahFemaleLibya2008-06-04 11:13:00
Middle East and North AfricaHump Day!!! Camel Pix Posting Day!
QUOTE (Nagishkaw @ Jun 4 2008, 08:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Im still wondering what he plans to change.

Did somebody say................














CHANGE????





























whistling.gif


Mabrookalations Melinda!!!! kicking.gif kicking.gif kicking.gif
AlhamdulillahFemaleLibya2008-06-04 11:11:00
Middle East and North Africaits me again
Mabrookalations!
AlhamdulillahFemaleLibya2008-06-04 12:03:00
Middle East and North AfricaAnimals become prey at Egypt's Giza Zoo
I like taking my kids to the zoo but we don't do the circus. Most of the animals at the zoos around here couldn't survive in the wild anyway and they're not in cages so much as fenced in surroundings.
I don't understand why a poor country like Egypt needs a zoo though. Feed your ppl and get them off the streets begging for food and money and then worry about these other things.
AlhamdulillahFemaleLibya2008-06-07 14:54:00
Middle East and North AfricaAnyone in TX??
QUOTE (HisLittleMasriyah @ Jun 6 2008, 01:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wishing all the best sister..... and i can imagine how fun it will b moving next to Amal kicking.gif luv.gif becoz Amal u sound so active n funny i like that biggrin.gif

I'm growing kinda fond of her! biggrin.gif

I feel like I'm back in AR hell and waiting for the visa again! I hope he comes back to get me soon!!! crying.gif
AlhamdulillahFemaleLibya2008-06-06 18:48:00
Middle East and North AfricaAnyone in TX??
QUOTE (amal @ Jun 6 2008, 05:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I wanna save a cheerleader too....question is..what do they need saving from? unsure.gif

Other mutants LOL Heroes And it's not just a cheerleader it's THE cheerleader LOL

Edited by Alhamdulillah, 06 June 2008 - 06:04 PM.

AlhamdulillahFemaleLibya2008-06-06 18:04:00
Middle East and North AfricaAnyone in TX??
QUOTE (Jenn! @ Jun 6 2008, 05:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Aww, shucks. I thought you were gonna move to Odessa....save the cheerleader, save the world!!!!!

Was that in Odessa????????? That would have been cool!! LOL
AlhamdulillahFemaleLibya2008-06-06 16:30:00
Middle East and North AfricaAnyone in TX??
QUOTE (amal @ Jun 6 2008, 01:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
lol, i have a gps too...i still get lost! it even tells me when to turn! heaven forbid if there are 2 roads side by side coz i'll pull over and freak out about which one to take...i definitely do not travel well!

rofl.gif headbonk.gif
AlhamdulillahFemaleLibya2008-06-06 16:18:00
Middle East and North AfricaAnyone in TX??
QUOTE (amal @ Jun 6 2008, 12:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
arrrrrrrrrrreeba!!!!!!! I am excited!!!!!! I can take u around the area a little bit when u get here! my driving abilities are somewhat limited since I get lost so quickly but I can take u to the areas that I feel safe going to!!!!!















are you here yet?????
hehehe amal


LOL No, not yet. I won't be leaving until at least the 17th. Hopefully it won't be long after that. If I can leave ON the 17th it would be GREAT!
Don't worry about directions! I gotz GPS on mah blackberry biggrin.gif
AlhamdulillahFemaleLibya2008-06-06 11:43:00
Middle East and North AfricaAnyone in TX??
QUOTE (charlesandnessa @ Jun 6 2008, 12:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Alhamdulillah @ Jun 6 2008, 10:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks everyone! I'm very excited!! I'm trying to get everything packed up and ready now. I have to find a storage room and start moving my stuff in before I can move!!

good to see your name back btw luv.gif

Yes, I owe the captain big time for understanding that us women sometimes do stupid things in fits of anger tongue.gif
AlhamdulillahFemaleLibya2008-06-06 11:21:00
Middle East and North AfricaAnyone in TX??
Thanks everyone! I'm very excited!! I'm trying to get everything packed up and ready now. I have to find a storage room and start moving my stuff in before I can move!!
AlhamdulillahFemaleLibya2008-06-06 10:59:00
Middle East and North AfricaAnyone in TX??
QUOTE (amal @ Jun 5 2008, 10:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm in houston..i'm in houston!!! move by meeeeeeeeeeeeeee i need a friend!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm moving just minutes from u my lovely sister!!! biggrin.gif
AlhamdulillahFemaleLibya2008-06-05 23:21:00
Middle East and North AfricaAnyone in TX??
A quick update! It's actually Houston where I'm going and I'll be leaving by the end of the month inshallah! Hopefully I'll be able to go in about two weeks but it may end up being three. The hubby and I have talked everything through and have decided to work it out inshallah biggrin.gif Alhamdulillah! So I'm moving down there.... for good! biggrin.gif
AlhamdulillahFemaleLibya2008-06-05 19:56:00
Middle East and North AfricaAnyone in TX??
Please reply or PM me... I'm going to be making a trip to Odessa, TX later this week inshallah and it would be nice if there was someone anywhere in that area that I could maybe talk to and could help me out with something.
AlhamdulillahFemaleLibya2008-06-01 19:51:00
Middle East and North AfricaCaturday!
QUOTE (amal @ Jun 7 2008, 10:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
NO, U don't ahve to re-sponsor him BUT try ur best to get some form of employment if at all possible. We moved before we lifted conditions but made sure that we both were working when we filed. Also, both you and ur hubby have 10 days to report a change of address. Make sure that you send in those forms EVEN IF IT IS A TEMPORARY ADDRESS and send them in again once u get a permanent one. You'll both have to send in the form seperately as they are 2 different forms. 1 for the sponsor and 1 for the immigrant.

I don't want to go to work!!! crying.gif I'm exhausted! lol

I've been trying to get him to go to mailboxes etc near the hotel we'll be staying at and get us a mailbox and address so I can put in the change of address here and with USCIS but he doesn't know how to do it so he keeps saying we'll do it when I'm there. I'm gonna call that store on Monday and ask if I can get one over the phone!
AlhamdulillahFemaleLibya2008-06-07 22:23:00
Middle East and North AfricaCaturday!
QUOTE (Jenn! @ Jun 7 2008, 10:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Alhamdulillah @ Jun 7 2008, 10:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I wonder how me losing my job is gonna affect us removing the conditions if I don't get a new job? Does he have to be sponsored again? unsure.gif


There is no affidavit of support for the I-751 so one less thing to worry about.

Oh Thank God coz I am really tired of working and wasn't planning on going back any time soon smile.gif
AlhamdulillahFemaleLibya2008-06-07 22:20:00
Middle East and North AfricaCaturday!
QUOTE (amal @ Jun 7 2008, 10:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I asked my husband if we could kitty-sit for u for a couple days...he is thinking about it. I'd be more than happy to .. but it is ultimately up to him.

and by the way..I'm currently uploading around 40 before and after pictures of my kittahs!!! and just in time for the end of caturday too!!! stay tuned!

rose.gif amal rose.gif

Oh that would be VERY helpful! If you could just take one of them I could keep the other at the room with me too inshallah.... whispers: but I hope you don't shave them while they're visiting laughing.gif

I can't wait to see the pics! biggrin.gif (Did you get my texts?)
AlhamdulillahFemaleLibya2008-06-07 22:16:00
Middle East and North AfricaCaturday!
QUOTE (Nagishkaw @ Jun 7 2008, 10:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Maybe you can hire a pet sitter?

I can't even imagine how much that will cost. Remember, we're two unemployed ppl right now lol

I wonder how me losing my job is gonna affect us removing the conditions if I don't get a new job? Does he have to be sponsored again? unsure.gif
AlhamdulillahFemaleLibya2008-06-07 21:39:00