Forum	Title	Content	Member	Sex	Country	Date/Time
Middle East and North Africa	Its Caturday MENA!	QUOTE (julianna @ Jul 27 2008, 12:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Alhamdulillah @ Jul 26 2008, 11:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If a man has an extra-marital affair with a woman for 20 years it's OK in the US.... no laws preventing it and even if there are some still on the books they'll never be enforced but IF a man takes responsibilty for the woman he wants to have a relationship with, other than his first wife, and marries her then he's looking at serious prison time. Why is it better in this corrupted society to make whores of women than wives??? It may be legal but it is not culturally acceptable. As to why polygamy is not allowed-- well one, it's culturally unacceptable to the point where it is not up for change at this point, and two it would likely involve a change to our legal codes ebcause we have difficulty at this point with that the way things are set up. Our default inheritence, benefits (who is covered under the husband's insurance? All of the wives and kids? insurance would not want that to happen), what if the first wife was the basis for insurance? etc are a one-spouse situation. i think that's why gay marriage is making more headway than polygamy, even though it's obvious polygamy is an older tradition. You'd probably have to restructure our society to re-position the male as central and dominant figure and then either make all the incomes of the wives independant and the one male to be the only commonality, or just remove the wives from wealth and make the male one commonality. I am sure there are other ways to do it, but for simple ease of legality that seems like the way to go. You couldn't really make peopleco-equal in the situation because then you would end up with situations where a wife had to pay allimony to a divorced wife, etc if that should happen... so it would involve basically, something like teh implementation of Sharia which is a closed system for this amongst other things-- which Muslims would find OK, but the majority of people here would object to having. I disagree that it's not culturally accepted. If it were only a matter of how to adjust our laws then they wouldn't prosecute violators so harshly. A man can live with two women and not marry either one of them... or marry one and not the other but still live with both and it's perfectly OK here, legally. That's disgusting.	Alhamdulillah	Female	Libya	2008-07-27 00:23:00
Middle East and North Africa	Its Caturday MENA!	QUOTE (S and S @ Jul 27 2008, 12:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Why is it okay for a man to sleep with another woman at all? Yet a woman does not have the same option legally or islamically? I stopped trying to figure that one out. Well, legally in the US she has every "right" to sleep with as many men other than her husband that she pleases.... women's liberation at it's peak! See what good muslim women across the world have to look forward to when the US comes to free them from oppression and liberate them??? Why is it ok for men and women to sleep together if they're married? Because marriage makes it permissable in Islam and in Islam he's allowed to have up to four wives. QUOTE (julianna @ Jul 27 2008, 12:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Alhamdulillah @ Jul 26 2008, 10:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I agree no one is perfect.... everyone sins but it's American culture to do these disgusting things and it's accepted and in most cases legal. At least in true muslim countries it's not allowed and those who do it have to hide it. They can come to America and do it in the freaking streets with praise from the public audience! It's from Islam to hide your sins and not expose what Allah has hidden for you. Speaking of corrupted muslim countries..... why do you suppose they are so corrupted today? Because of American influence..... they see our movies and TV shows and want to follow the American dream of being as trashy as you can possibly be n'autho billah! But with all this, Islam is bad because it allows more than one wife! Pfft! Whatever. Sorry, "the west" did not invent extra-marital affairs, drinking, drugs, etc. They were doing that before our movies ever came out. It's even regulated in your Qu'ran, which means they knew about it. It wasn't widespread like it is today.	Alhamdulillah	Female	Libya	2008-07-27 00:11:00
Middle East and North Africa	Its Caturday MENA!	QUOTE (julianna @ Jul 26 2008, 11:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Alhamdulillah @ Jul 26 2008, 10:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I see, so righteous men in the bible did things that God did NOT condone..... OK. Yes. And I do agree-- extramarital affairs are not preferred in our society any more than polygamy... but.. you do have a point in that it is a cultural familarity moreso than polygamy (or in this case polygyny). That doesn't make it accepted. Both are considered disgusting. I think the latter is met with more revulsion because it is a permanent state of having an affair and you are forced to deal with it and accept it as being just as valid (speaking from the cultural perspective, not from your perspective on it of course. i acknowledge polygamy is the preferred form of marriage across the world, although monogamy is the most practiced due to varying restrictions (like Islam's request of ebing able to support muslitple wives fully-- even if it were something encouraged, it would erquire the man to be of a certain wealth level before he could obtain this status if he was to follow the) rules. If a man has an extra-marital affair with a woman for 20 years it's OK in the US.... no laws preventing it and even if there are some still on the books they'll never be enforced but IF a man takes responsibilty for the woman he wants to have a relationship with, other than his first wife, and marries her then he's looking at serious prison time. Why is it better in this corrupted society to make whores of women than wives???	Alhamdulillah	Female	Libya	2008-07-27 00:02:00
Middle East and North Africa	Its Caturday MENA!	QUOTE (S and S @ Jul 26 2008, 11:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Alhamdulillah @ Jul 26 2008, 11:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (ahmkri @ Jul 26 2008, 11:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Sorry but tht was a really weird post and did not help at all in your argument. You seem like you are rationalizing the hitting and that is sad. ALthough multiple wives were in Bible, it does not mean it was condoned by God...Americans dont "prefer extramarital affairs" but it happens. I'd rather it be that way than be the one to allow my husband to have relations with anohter when I know about it. The latter is more of a fall from grace whereas the previous is an allowance and acceptance of it...anyway or either way it is disgusting. I dont know what your deal is you showcase ur relgion in your signature and now complain. I see, so righteous men in the bible did things that God did NOT condone..... OK. I'm explaining what I understand it to mean. I don't put myself above God to make up my own laws to live by judging by what I prefer or not as I am a human being who is incapable of seeing the bigger picture. God made the laws as He saw fit. I find American culture of sex, drugs, drinking, stealing and killing to be disgusting.... much more so than a man having more than one wife. I'm muslim.... the fact that I am doesn't mean I have to be happy when I see my religion forever trash-talked on this forum. I've found that there is sex, drugs, drinking, stealing and killing in the middle east too, or at least the four muslim countries I've been to. For that matter, I believe those things are in every country on earth. One country hiding its sins better than another doesn't mean its a better country. Don't even let us get started on the exploits of the Saudi Royal family and their exploits and they are supposed to be from the most holy place in Islam of all. All countries have their good and their bad. I try to see both. Yet, I also thank God I am an American and a muslim. I agree no one is perfect.... everyone sins but it's American culture to do these disgusting things and it's accepted and in most cases legal. At least in true muslim countries it's not allowed and those who do it have to hide it. They can come to America and do it in the freaking streets with praise from the public audience! It's from Islam to hide your sins and not expose what Allah has hidden for you. Speaking of corrupted muslim countries..... why do you suppose they are so corrupted today? Because of American influence..... they see our movies and TV shows and want to follow the American dream of being as trashy as you can possibly be n'autho billah! But with all this, Islam is bad because it allows more than one wife! Pfft! Whatever.	Alhamdulillah	Female	Libya	2008-07-26 23:57:00
Middle East and North Africa	Its Caturday MENA!	QUOTE (ahmkri @ Jul 26 2008, 11:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Sorry but tht was a really weird post and did not help at all in your argument. You seem like you are rationalizing the hitting and that is sad. ALthough multiple wives were in Bible, it does not mean it was condoned by God...Americans dont "prefer extramarital affairs" but it happens. I'd rather it be that way than be the one to allow my husband to have relations with anohter when I know about it. The latter is more of a fall from grace whereas the previous is an allowance and acceptance of it...anyway or either way it is disgusting. I dont know what your deal is you showcase ur relgion in your signature and now complain. I see, so righteous men in the bible did things that God did NOT condone..... OK. I'm explaining what I understand it to mean. I don't put myself above God to make up my own laws to live by judging by what I prefer or not as I am a human being who is incapable of seeing the bigger picture. God made the laws as He saw fit. I find American culture of sex, drugs, drinking, stealing and killing to be disgusting.... much more so than a man having more than one wife. I'm muslim.... the fact that I am doesn't mean I have to be happy when I see my religion forever trash-talked on this forum. eta: this is why I and other practicing muslims have left this forum in the past. Edited by Alhamdulillah, 26 July 2008 - 11:48 PM.	Alhamdulillah	Female	Libya	2008-07-26 23:45:00
Middle East and North Africa	Its Caturday MENA!	QUOTE (S and S @ Jul 26 2008, 11:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Alhamdulillah @ Jul 26 2008, 11:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (S and S @ Jul 26 2008, 11:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Alhamdulillah @ Jul 26 2008, 11:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Olivia* @ Jul 26 2008, 03:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (ME~n~HIM @ Jul 26 2008, 01:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Alhamdulillah @ Jul 26 2008, 02:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ya I I wonder why you'd marry someone who follows a religion you hate? Oh well.... Que Sera, Sera!! I wanted to correct that too! There's so many times I want to correct typos/misspellings that I see on here (cuz I'm ####### abt that stuff when it happens repeatedly). Good question.......... Does that help answer the question. Do you muslimias seriously believe I hate Islam because I question it? And why doesn't anyone answer those questions for me about the several wives & beating wives acceptance? Everytime I bring it up it becomes a moot point on here. What I don't understand is how someone who isn't raised that way comes to accept those beliefs? You don't understand about men being allowed more than one wife because you live in america and have been told your whole life that it's bad and wrong when it's not. If you're christian you should know that prophets and other important ppl in the bible had multiple wives so I don't see what the big issue is or why American women make such a huge deal about it. I understand we're jealous.... I am too but it's taken to whole new levels with American women threatening divorce and other such punishments if a man does something Allah has allowed him to do. I'd much rather my husband have another wife than to have an affair but in America affairs are widely accepted while having more than one wife is illegal.... it's a crappy culture that prefers men to have affairs instead of marrying the other woman. As far as "wife-beating" it's not allowed. Americans love to over exaggerate things and make them seem worse than they are.... this is NO different. Allah says in the Quran that a man can lightly hit his wife if she's unruly and he's tried everything else to bring her to the correct way and failed but even that "hitting" has to be lightly and with something no bigger than a siwak if you know what that is.... it doesn't hurt! And then it can only be done if it would actually help her to realize what she's doing is bad.... if not he'd be better to just divorce her and leave her to her evil ways. The prophet sal allahu alayhi wa salaam discouraged men from hitting their wives many times. I can assure you that my ex-non-muslim-husband had absolutely nothing preventing him from beating me regularly.... and when he beat me it was a true "beating" and not a little slap on the wrist. Alhamdulillah, please be patient with her. She is not muslim and doesn't understand the differences in religion or culture. Wouldn't it be better to explain Islamic practices in a nice manner where it makes her feel more encouraged to study Islam than to brow beat her. Sure these would have been good questions to ask before she married a muslim, but it is too late for that now. We should support her and encourage her to learn why things are done in Islam they way they are. The prophet (peace be upon him) never spoke harshly to people trying to understand Islam, even if they spoke harshly to him. Please think of the ways of the prophet (peace be upon him) as an example of how to help others in understanding. I get tired of seeing my religion dragged thru the mud on this forum. It's old. I know and I understand that being in a family full of Christians who don't understand. My work environment isn't welcome to muslims either. Mostly though, I try to set a good example and explain parts of Islam that can help people and be useful to them. There have been several times I have talked to people that they actually asked me for a Quran so they might study it because I was patient even during their criticism. I thank God that when I chose to learn about Islam and had things that I didn't like, someone took the time to explain them in a good way for me so that I was encouraged to continue my studies. Without those people, who knows if I would have chosen to revert. I didn't reply to a comment asking why these things were allowed at first.... I replied to a comment that she didn't want to raise her kids in Islam because it's a bad religion since it allows these two things she mentioned. It's one thing when someone asks questions because they want to learn or understand.... it's another thing when women are forever bitching and moaning about how horrible Islam is because of all these rulings that they don't understand.	Alhamdulillah	Female	Libya	2008-07-26 23:32:00
Middle East and North Africa	Its Caturday MENA!	QUOTE (charlesandnessa @ Jul 26 2008, 11:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ok, what's a "siwak" It's a small stick we use to clean our mouths.	Alhamdulillah	Female	Libya	2008-07-26 23:29:00
Middle East and North Africa	Its Caturday MENA!	QUOTE (S and S @ Jul 26 2008, 11:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Alhamdulillah @ Jul 26 2008, 11:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Olivia* @ Jul 26 2008, 03:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (ME~n~HIM @ Jul 26 2008, 01:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Alhamdulillah @ Jul 26 2008, 02:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ya I I wonder why you'd marry someone who follows a religion you hate? Oh well.... Que Sera, Sera!! I wanted to correct that too! There's so many times I want to correct typos/misspellings that I see on here (cuz I'm ####### abt that stuff when it happens repeatedly). Good question.......... Does that help answer the question. Do you muslimias seriously believe I hate Islam because I question it? And why doesn't anyone answer those questions for me about the several wives & beating wives acceptance? Everytime I bring it up it becomes a moot point on here. What I don't understand is how someone who isn't raised that way comes to accept those beliefs? You don't understand about men being allowed more than one wife because you live in america and have been told your whole life that it's bad and wrong when it's not. If you're christian you should know that prophets and other important ppl in the bible had multiple wives so I don't see what the big issue is or why American women make such a huge deal about it. I understand we're jealous.... I am too but it's taken to whole new levels with American women threatening divorce and other such punishments if a man does something Allah has allowed him to do. I'd much rather my husband have another wife than to have an affair but in America affairs are widely accepted while having more than one wife is illegal.... it's a crappy culture that prefers men to have affairs instead of marrying the other woman. As far as "wife-beating" it's not allowed. Americans love to over exaggerate things and make them seem worse than they are.... this is NO different. Allah says in the Quran that a man can lightly hit his wife if she's unruly and he's tried everything else to bring her to the correct way and failed but even that "hitting" has to be lightly and with something no bigger than a siwak if you know what that is.... it doesn't hurt! And then it can only be done if it would actually help her to realize what she's doing is bad.... if not he'd be better to just divorce her and leave her to her evil ways. The prophet sal allahu alayhi wa salaam discouraged men from hitting their wives many times. I can assure you that my ex-non-muslim-husband had absolutely nothing preventing him from beating me regularly.... and when he beat me it was a true "beating" and not a little slap on the wrist. Alhamdulillah, please be patient with her. She is not muslim and doesn't understand the differences in religion or culture. Wouldn't it be better to explain Islamic practices in a nice manner where it makes her feel more encouraged to study Islam than to brow beat her. Sure these would have been good questions to ask before she married a muslim, but it is too late for that now. We should support her and encourage her to learn why things are done in Islam they way they are. The prophet (peace be upon him) never spoke harshly to people trying to understand Islam, even if they spoke harshly to him. Please think of the ways of the prophet (peace be upon him) as an example of how to help others in understanding. I get tired of seeing my religion dragged thru the mud on this forum. It's old.	Alhamdulillah	Female	Libya	2008-07-26 23:19:00
Middle East and North Africa	Its Caturday MENA!	QUOTE (Olivia* @ Jul 26 2008, 03:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (ME~n~HIM @ Jul 26 2008, 01:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Alhamdulillah @ Jul 26 2008, 02:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ya I I wonder why you'd marry someone who follows a religion you hate? Oh well.... Que Sera, Sera!! I wanted to correct that too! There's so many times I want to correct typos/misspellings that I see on here (cuz I'm ####### abt that stuff when it happens repeatedly). Good question.......... Does that help answer the question. Do you muslimias seriously believe I hate Islam because I question it? And why doesn't anyone answer those questions for me about the several wives & beating wives acceptance? Everytime I bring it up it becomes a moot point on here. What I don't understand is how someone who isn't raised that way comes to accept those beliefs? You don't understand about men being allowed more than one wife because you live in america and have been told your whole life that it's bad and wrong when it's not. If you're christian you should know that prophets and other important ppl in the bible had multiple wives so I don't see what the big issue is or why American women make such a huge deal about it. I understand we're jealous.... I am too but it's taken to whole new levels with American women threatening divorce and other such punishments if a man does something Allah has allowed him to do. I'd much rather my husband have another wife than to have an affair but in America affairs are widely accepted while having more than one wife is illegal.... it's a crappy culture that prefers men to have affairs instead of marrying the other woman. As far as "wife-beating" it's not allowed. Americans love to over exaggerate things and make them seem worse than they are.... this is NO different. Allah says in the Quran that a man can lightly hit his wife if she's unruly and he's tried everything else to bring her to the correct way and failed but even that "hitting" has to be lightly and with something no bigger than a siwak if you know what that is.... it doesn't hurt! And then it can only be done if it would actually help her to realize what she's doing is bad.... if not he'd be better to just divorce her and leave her to her evil ways. The prophet sal allahu alayhi wa salaam discouraged men from hitting their wives many times. I can assure you that my ex-non-muslim-husband had absolutely nothing preventing him from beating me regularly.... and when he beat me it was a true "beating" and not a little slap on the wrist.	Alhamdulillah	Female	Libya	2008-07-26 23:03:00
Middle East and North Africa	Its Caturday MENA!	QUOTE (Olivia* @ Jul 26 2008, 02:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ya I want my own babies. Ooooooh but nearly everytime we talk we go rounds on how to raise them which puts off having them even longer. At first I was willing to raise them Muslim but now after everything I've learned from ppl on here, and converts, and independent research, and stuff his sister sends me I'm thinking it's better not to have them at all then raise them Muslim. He's willing to just have me if this is the case but it's very sad for both of us when we both want them. He tells me to consider the sources where I learn things and is hopeful that after six months living in Egypt that I will have a change of heart and see a different side of Islam then what I have learned about. I admitted to him I am still young at learning about it but there are things I just can not accept and would never want my kids to learn those things. When I point out does her really want his kids to learn that it's ok to have more than one wife and it's ok to beat your wife it becomes a mute point. I don't know what to do. It's a moot point not a mute point I wonder why you'd marry someone who follows a religion you hate? Oh well.... Que Sera, Sera!!	Alhamdulillah	Female	Libya	2008-07-26 14:24:00
Middle East and North Africa	Muslim Americans Video	Cute video. I didn't watch with the music on though.	Alhamdulillah	Female	Libya	2008-07-27 00:18:00
Middle East and North Africa	me thinks there are posers in MENA	QUOTE (morocco4ever @ Jul 24 2008, 12:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE Don't trust anyone!! Even some who aren't posers like to make fitnah behind the scenes.... I hope I haven't made fitnah behind the scene....of course I don't know what that means. I said some, not all. But seriously, with all the gossiping and rumor spreading that goes on in PMs who can know who to trust or not? There are surely some vultures in PM here that act like angels in public.	Alhamdulillah	Female	Libya	2008-07-24 12:47:00
Middle East and North Africa	me thinks there are posers in MENA	QUOTE (Rajaa_Reda @ Jul 23 2008, 09:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The other's often cause us to question our men and their motivations. Yeah, there are some jinn and shayateen on here that want nothing more than to make fitnah between spouses as well.... n'authobillahi minash shaytaani rajeem. QUOTE (charlesandnessa @ Jul 24 2008, 12:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (brnidokiegurl @ Jul 23 2008, 02:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> divorced and still around? do we know they are divorced? i'd dayum sure divorce a few of them QUOTE (Nutty @ Jul 24 2008, 10:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ok. Now I am worried. I don't know who is a poser and now I worry that I can't trust anyone. I haven't given my phone number or anything to anyone. But I have shared some personal experiences (nothing risque) via PM. How can you tell if they are a poser???? Don't trust anyone!! Even some who aren't posers like to make fitnah behind the scenes....	Alhamdulillah	Female	Libya	2008-07-24 12:37:00
Middle East and North Africa	me thinks there are posers in MENA	I have no doubt at all that some of the memebers of VJ, particularly in MENA, are fake/posers/trolls.... no doubts at all.	Alhamdulillah	Female	Libya	2008-07-22 22:56:00
Middle East and North Africa	Charlesandnessa	QUOTE (Asante Maroon @ Jul 26 2008, 09:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (charlesandnessa @ Jul 25 2008, 04:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> i'm at work right now, does that answer the question? Quite popular are we, Charles? ....You have a whole thread dedicated to you! It's not the first.... probably won't be the last LOL	Alhamdulillah	Female	Libya	2008-07-26 22:34:00
Middle East and North Africa	Charlesandnessa	QUOTE (charlesandnessa @ Jul 26 2008, 01:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Alhamdulillah @ Jul 26 2008, 12:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Maggie724 @ Jul 25 2008, 11:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Nessa is pretty too. I didn't get to see Nessa!!! that's ok, we don't get to see you either Yeah well that's different	Alhamdulillah	Female	Libya	2008-07-26 14:27:00
Middle East and North Africa	Charlesandnessa	QUOTE (Maggie724 @ Jul 25 2008, 11:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Nessa is pretty too. I didn't get to see Nessa!!!	Alhamdulillah	Female	Libya	2008-07-26 00:58:00
Middle East and North Africa	Charlesandnessa	QUOTE (S and S @ Jul 25 2008, 08:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Alhamdulillah @ Jul 25 2008, 08:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Charles' pics remind me of my daddy!!!! TMI, lol Maybe he is my daddy He tried to pass himself off as my brother once	Alhamdulillah	Female	Libya	2008-07-25 20:17:00
Middle East and North Africa	Charlesandnessa	Charles' pics remind me of my daddy!!!!	Alhamdulillah	Female	Libya	2008-07-25 20:08:00
Middle East and North Africa	Habibi Has Arrived!	QUOTE (Nutty @ Jul 25 2008, 04:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The problem is that I can not adjust to living in the US anymore. I just don't have the stamina to keep up this life. I understand this completely!! Losing my job has been one of the best things to happen to me! And I'm NOT going back!! I told him I have absolutely NO desire to EVER work outside the home another day of my life and he's cool with that. He prefers me to be home to cook and clean and all that good stuff lol. Maybe I'll babysit some kids when we get a house of our own inshallah but that's about it. If he starts a business or something I'll help him with that.... I want to go back to school though and get my teaching degree, just in case I decide later I want to work again or if I need it overseas when we move in the future.	Alhamdulillah	Female	Libya	2008-07-25 20:27:00
Middle East and North Africa	You know you're Arab when...	QUOTE (sarahaziz @ Jul 2 2008, 12:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> - Getting a visa to Europe or the States is like getting a baby, everybody tells you "mabrook" Not my hubby's family.... they cried and begged him not to go. They asked him repeatedly why he'd want to come here. QUOTE -Your dream is holding a different passport. QUOTE -Your relatives alone could populate a small city. it's funny coz it's true QUOTE -You pronounce your p's as b's (bebsi and bolice) I love that! He calls them "spitty p's" lol QUOTE -You ask your dad a simple question and he tells you a story of how he had to walk miles just to get to school. I'm not Arab but MY dad used to have to walk for miles, up hills in the mountains, barefoot, in the snow to school every day...... to hear him tell it at least QUOTE -You're speaking arabic with someone and everyone (who isnt arabic) thinks you're arguing, but instead you're actually having a peaceful conversation.	Alhamdulillah	Female	Libya	2008-07-02 14:42:00
Middle East and North Africa	Does your muslim husband mind if you drink?	QUOTE (Shpat @ Aug 5 2008, 04:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well i was married at the age of 21, when I went back home to visit her almost everynight I drank mostly beers though. And when it comes to my wife she doesnt drink nor smoke, but if she does want to drink she usually asks if she can have a mixed drink. Of course I say yeah... I dont know us Albanians in Kosova are some weird Muslims, well i'm speaking for myself and alot of people that i know. Shaykh al-Albani was one of the greatest scholars of our time. I also know a some practicing Albanian muslimaat in the US mashallah. Neither me nor my husband drink or sit with those who are drinking.... we are both practicing muslims walhamdulillah. I'm quite amazed at the number of muslims who take such a major sin so lightly but to each their own.	Alhamdulillah	Female	Libya	2008-08-07 12:55:00
Middle East and North Africa	The MENA thread about nothing	QUOTE (charlesandnessa @ Jul 22 2008, 11:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> WHY PARENTS HAVE GRAY HAIR! ============================ The boss of a big company needed to call one of his employees about an urgent problem with one of the main computers. He dialed the employee's home phone number and was greeted with a child's whispered, "Hello?" Feeling put out at the inconvenience of having to talk to a youngster the boss asked, "Is your Daddy home?" "Yes", whispered the small voice. "May I talk with him?" the man asked. To the surprise of the boss, the small voice whispered, "No." Wanting to talk with an adult, the boss asked, "Is your Mommy there?" "Yes", came the answer. "May I talk with her?" Again the small voice whispered, "No." Knowing that it was not likely that a young child would be left home alone, the boss decided he would just leave a message with the person who should be there watching over the child. "Is there any one there besides you?" the boss asked the child. "Yes" whispered the child, "a policeman." Wondering what a cop would be doing at his employee's home, the boss asked, "May I speak with the policeman?" "No, he's busy," whispered the child. "Busy doing what?" asked the boss. "Talking to Daddy and Mommy and the Fireman", came the whispered answer. Growing concerned and even worried as he heard what sounded like a helicopter through the ear piece on the phone the boss asked, "What is that noise?" "A hello-copper" answered the whispering voice. "What is going on there?" asked the boss, now alarmed. In an awed whispering voice the child answered, "The search team just landed the hello-copper." Alarmed, concerned, and more than just a little frustrated the boss asked, "What are they searching for?" Still whispering, the young voice replied along with a muffled giggle: "Me" That was GREAT!!! I have to send this to my mommy!!!!!!	Alhamdulillah	Female	Libya	2008-07-24 13:00:00
Middle East and North Africa	Tunis?	My husband's from Libya but had to go thru the embassy in Tunis. Maybe I can help?	Alhamdulillah	Female	Libya	2008-06-21 23:05:00
Middle East and North Africa	Happy Thursday MENA!	QUOTE (?JP? @ Jul 17 2008, 05:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Alhamdulillah @ Jul 17 2008, 03:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (?JP? @ Jul 17 2008, 05:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Alhamdulillah @ Jul 17 2008, 03:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (?JP? @ Jul 17 2008, 04:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Why is it that my maternity leave which is 2 weeks away seems further away than the due date? Are you taking the standard 6/8 weeks off with pay or the full 6mo/1yr without pay? There is really no standard here in California. I can take short term disability for up to 90 days. If I am still unable to work for medical reasons, then I can take long term disability. After that, I can take Family leave. As it stands right now, I am taking leave when I am 36 weeks. Then I will take approx 6-8 weeks after depending on my Dr's reccomendation. I didn't realize it varied from state to state.... that's interesting..... but sucks for you In NC and SC (and I thought everywhere else) you can take 6 to 8 weeks and get short term disability from your job for maternity leave.... then you can opt to extend it to 6 months to a year (depending on your employer) without pay. No it actually does vary by state. I don't see what sucks about it though. As it is right now, I'm getting 10-12 weeks of leave at 75% of my pay untaxed. After that I can still take Family leave at 55% of my pay for an additional 6 weeks. Taking 6 months - 1 year off unpaid is not an option for me. Ok, I'm having a duh moment.... 90 days is a long time huh? lol that just didn't register when I read it first time. I don't know why I was thinking more like three weeks instead of three months when I read it	Alhamdulillah	Female	Libya	2008-07-17 18:19:00
Middle East and North Africa	Happy Thursday MENA!	QUOTE (?JP? @ Jul 17 2008, 05:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Alhamdulillah @ Jul 17 2008, 03:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (?JP? @ Jul 17 2008, 04:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Why is it that my maternity leave which is 2 weeks away seems further away than the due date? Are you taking the standard 6/8 weeks off with pay or the full 6mo/1yr without pay? There is really no standard here in California. I can take short term disability for up to 90 days. If I am still unable to work for medical reasons, then I can take long term disability. After that, I can take Family leave. As it stands right now, I am taking leave when I am 36 weeks. Then I will take approx 6-8 weeks after depending on my Dr's reccomendation. I didn't realize it varied from state to state.... that's interesting..... but sucks for you In NC and SC (and I thought everywhere else) you can take 6 to 8 weeks and get short term disability from your job for maternity leave.... then you can opt to extend it to 6 months to a year (depending on your employer) without pay.	Alhamdulillah	Female	Libya	2008-07-17 17:42:00
Middle East and North Africa	Happy Thursday MENA!	QUOTE (?JP? @ Jul 17 2008, 04:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Why is it that my maternity leave which is 2 weeks away seems further away than the due date? Are you taking the standard 6/8 weeks off with pay or the full 6mo/1yr without pay?	Alhamdulillah	Female	Libya	2008-07-17 17:21:00
Middle East and North Africa	Is It Thursday Yet????	QUOTE (amal @ Jun 12 2008, 04:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> no butts please.. but I thought they were praying towards meeeee.... lol I feel a lot better today.. I went str8 to bed yesterday when I got home from work (well, with the exception of my rendesvous with John) and stayed there till almost 7am today...yeah it about killed me.... U DO KNOW that I'm gonna ask u every day if ur here yet don't you.... I'm not very patient lol OK well we'll be there soon inshallah. You know, actually, they're not really praying lol that's the "I'm not worthy" move but it looks like praying so I chose it. On the site they actually stop after bowing and put their hands under their chins and bat their eyelashes	Alhamdulillah	Female	Libya	2008-06-12 15:31:00
Middle East and North Africa	Is It Thursday Yet????	QUOTE (bridget @ Jun 12 2008, 03:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Alhamdulillah @ Jun 12 2008, 03:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (amal @ Jun 12 2008, 03:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> VP u here yet....and that first video was awful..shame shame to those parents! Nope, not yet. Working on it though! Speaking of..... my hubby needs your hubby to call him when he can I hope you're feeling better today vp-technically since your meez are facing me when they're praying, isn't their salat invalidated now? Well, I don't know how to turn them around and do you really wanna see their butts?	Alhamdulillah	Female	Libya	2008-06-12 14:50:00
Middle East and North Africa	Is It Thursday Yet????	QUOTE (amal @ Jun 12 2008, 03:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> VP u here yet....and that first video was awful..shame shame to those parents! Nope, not yet. Working on it though! Speaking of..... my hubby needs your hubby to call him when he can I hope you're feeling better today	Alhamdulillah	Female	Libya	2008-06-12 14:42:00
Middle East and North Africa	Is It Thursday Yet????	QUOTE (tammy2688 @ Jun 12 2008, 03:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Seriously those of you who have your husbands now or are coming soon, don't know how luck you are! I totally understand! I had almost forgotten what it was like waiting for him to get here but now that he's been in TX I feel it all over again! At least my wait will be over in four days inshallah You are all in my prayers to be reunited with ur loved ones soon!	Alhamdulillah	Female	Libya	2008-06-12 14:29:00
Middle East and North Africa	Is It Thursday Yet????	QUOTE (mohamed N melinda @ Jun 12 2008, 01:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> i dont think it is was cute for the first one !!!!! I don't think the first one is cute either. If I was her dad I would jerk a knot in my wife's butt for teaching her that	Alhamdulillah	Female	Libya	2008-06-12 00:35:00
Middle East and North Africa	Is It Thursday Yet????	I get to start the Thursday thread So someone sent me a video from youtube of a little girl belly dancer and I happen to notice another one on the side bar and this one is really disturbing.... Would you think it was cute if your little girl was dancing like this? I don't think the dad was all that amused at the end of the video. Anyway, this is the one my friend gave me She has to be the CUTEST belly dancer EVER sorry Noura I hope everyone has a great day!!!	Alhamdulillah	Female	Libya	2008-06-12 00:10:00
Middle East and North Africa	TGIF !!	QUOTE (?JP? @ Jun 13 2008, 12:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> YAY! No diabietes!!!! Yay!!!! I'll pass out the candy bars!! I'm having a lazy morning. I'll be going to Friday Prayer today and then packing some more after that inshallah. I hope everyone has a great day!	Alhamdulillah	Female	Libya	2008-06-13 11:32:00
Middle East and North Africa	super duper day!	It might not be 100% over but 10 yrs is a long span not to have to worry about anything and even then it's not nearly as much of a hassle to get it renewed... and no more proving ur marriage is real for USCIS so CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!	Alhamdulillah	Female	Libya	2008-06-13 22:52:00
Middle East and North Africa	MENA Nightlife	QUOTE (Henia @ Jun 13 2008, 01:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Alhamdulliah: Did you go during Ramadan? I know here everything is closed in the daylight but opened late into the night during Ramadan. No, it wasn't Ramadan when I went.	Alhamdulillah	Female	Libya	2008-06-13 20:22:00
Middle East and North Africa	MENA Nightlife	QUOTE (Henia @ Jun 13 2008, 10:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Other then the typical Nightlife places, like discos and sexy time clubs ... what are some of the night life in your MENA country? There are no sexy time clubs in Libya No alcohol allowed in the country so no bars either Things do stay open at night though but usually it's just the men who are out after dark. When we were in Egypt I remember teasing my hubby about wanting to go out at all hours of the night.... you know here you're only up to no good if you're out that late but when he finally got me to go out I saw that EVERYTHING in Cairo is open really late at night and that's when we did our best shopping..... he says it's like that in Libya too.... I guess it has something to do with the heat during the day. I went to the dermatologist really late at night in Egypt.... they said it was his regular hours	Alhamdulillah	Female	Libya	2008-06-13 11:40:00
Middle East and North Africa	My husband arrives on Sunday	I know you're happy, excited and nervous all at the same time! What a feeling!!! I wouldn't worry too much about a size and a half! He probably won't even notice unless u tell him.... I gained quite a bit while waiting on my hubby to get here too! But he was just so happy to see me that he didn't even notice (until I was trying on the new clothes he brought me and he couldn't figure out why everything was tight when he KNOWS my sizes ) and I am sure that you will have NO problems being intimate As far as the living alone thing.... at least you recognize there are gonna be major changes so you don't make the mistake of going off doing your own thing after he gets there, and in turn making him feel like you have no respect for him	Alhamdulillah	Female	Libya	2008-06-12 18:54:00
Middle East and North Africa	HAPPY SATURDAY	QUOTE (nu7015 @ Jun 14 2008, 08:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Please send your prayers to Iowa during and after the floods here. We are safe and on high ground. We have about 4 more feet of water before the Iowa River crests next Monday or Tuesday. My husband has been watching and hearing about this while he is in Morocco. I wish he were here. Subhanallah! I'm glad to hear ur safe walhamdulillah! May Allah keep u safe and protect u, ameen.	Alhamdulillah	Female	Libya	2008-06-14 19:29:00
Middle East and North Africa	HAPPY SATURDAY	Howdeeeeee everyone! I'm moving slooooooooooowly today, I just can't get started! I need a boot in my butt coz I'm supposed to have this house all packed up when my hubby gets here Tuesday.... I need to get on it!	Alhamdulillah	Female	Libya	2008-06-14 14:26:00