Forum	Title	Content	Member	Sex	Country	Date/Time
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	April K3 Filers	Choose one of the following when you call them next time: 1.)You're so stupid you sent me a fax with a stamp on it! 2.)You're so stupid you thought a quarter back was a refund! 3.)You're so stupid you tried to put M&M's in alphabetical order! 4.)You're so stupid you thought Boyz II Men was a day care center! 5.)You're so stupid you thought Eartha Kitt was a set of garden tools!(not that many kids know who Eartha Kitt is, she's a singer) 6.)You're so stupid you thought General Motors was in the Army! 7.)You're so stupid you thought Meow Mix was a CD for cats! 8.)You're so stupid you thought TuPac Shakur was a Jewish holiday! 9.)You're so stupid under "education" on job applications you put "Hooked on Phonics"! 10.)You're so stupid you tried to drown a fish! 11.)You're so stupid you tripped over the cordless phone! 12.)You're so stupid you stared at the orange juice carton because it said "concentrate"! 13.)You're so stupid you got stabbed in a shoot out! 14.)You're so stupid you asked me to meet you at the corner of "WALK" and "DON'T WALK"! 15.)You're so stupid they had to burn down the school to get you out of 3rd grade! 16.)You're so stupid on applications that say "Sign Here" you put Libra! 17.)You're so stupid you asked for a price check at the Dollar Store! 18.)You're so stupid it takes you 3 hours to watch "60 Minutes"! 19.)You're so stupid you studied for a blood test and failed! 20.)You're so stupid you tried to buy tokens to get on to "Soul Train"! 21.)You're so stupid when you saw under 17 not admitted at the movies you went out and got 16 friends! 22.)You're so stupid when you heard 90% of accidents happen at home you moved! 23.)You're so stupid you think Taco Bell is the Mexican phone company! 24.)You're so stupid when you missed the #44 bus you took the #22 bus twice instead! 25.)You're so stupid when the sign said Airport Left you turned around and went home! 26.)You're so stupid you climbed over a glass wall to see what was on the other side! 27.)You're so stupid you sold your car for gas money!	gogo	Male	China	2007-09-10 17:03:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	April K3 Filers	Hiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeee My Honey!!! Hiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeee edp333!!!! Edited by gogo, 10 August 2007 - 02:53 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2007-08-10 14:52:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	We are the longest one from Guangzhou, China	well, 30 minutes before he called, I noticed that my two cases got transferred to the LOCAL office of Los Angeles.. you think something is wrong? well, I really have nothing to go for me now except this.. just take a look at my profile.. I am one of the longer waiting ones now..	gogo	Male	China	2007-11-28 10:55:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	We are the longest one from Guangzhou, China	my latest thing is I got transferred to the LOS ANGELES LOCAL office (both I-130 and I-129F on November 27)... today, the I-129F got touched again (November 28 last updated date).. if it does get approved soon, I have a trick for all you guys still waiting.. email the Vice President (####### Cheney) and President... http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/ talk about how your case is over 180 days and your situation ... I did, and received a letter in the mail in about 2 weeks from them stating they will look into my case (from Homeland security, who is the boss of USCIS).. they want to keep a record of all dealings and will have a person contact me... which was yesterday (from area code 202 -- Washington D.C.).. I got to talking someone from USCIS - Homeland Security Dept.. a person called Mr. Miller... good.gif he stated there was something going to happen soon with my case..	gogo	Male	China	2007-11-28 10:49:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	We are the longest one from Guangzhou, China	Thank you guys for your thoughts and prayers... It's good to have a community to talk with that is going through the same thing as me.. I hope that Divine Mercy got through with your problems with the I-130.. were you able to retrieve the approved I-130? At least you are on your way.. good for you	gogo	Male	China	2007-11-28 10:44:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	We are the longest one from Guangzhou, China	wow, congratulations on such a speedy journey!! Guess I'm not one of the lucky ones.. I tried calling in yesterday, and the lady laughed at me.. she laughed at how many times I called recently, and I asked her "what, do you want me to call in 1 year?"... and then she got mad and starting taking me seriously.. she said "don't talk like that, I'm just trying to help"... so sometimes you just have to push them to get stuff done.. but I don't know if she was for real or not in helping me get approved... (by faxing in a letter to her and stating I wanted my I-130 to continue, and not I-129F)... when I asked them about what kind (and for who?) of security checks.. they couldn't tell me... =( I would think they do the "background check" on me first.. Edited by gogo, 02 November 2007 - 01:37 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2007-11-02 13:32:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	We are the longest one from Guangzhou, China	haha.. thanks just trying to help others to what I have learned through this process.. nevertheless, it does take lots of patience even for this 1st step.. I'm mad because 200 days and not even touches.. Those "touches" were from USCIS, but I called in on 10/15, 10/16, 10/17 and pushed them... so those don't really count as real touches.. someone from USCIS was planning on helping me (fax them a letter and they said they will look at my case and approve if no problems).. but the status on the USCIS website hasn't changed yet.. Edited by gogo, 02 November 2007 - 01:27 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2007-11-02 13:26:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	We are the longest one from Guangzhou, China	What is an "appropriate expectation" then? I was figuring I would be the same as everyone else.. but a few of us in March/April are still waiting for approvals.. while people in May are getting approved... maybe I should wait maybe another 6 months for them to approve?? Pushbrk, according to your profile, you got the final interview around 239 days.. with 200 days under my belt, I should be nearly at the final interview, don't you think? My original expectations was for April 2008 for her arrival.. even that won't hit now with my new "expectations" above (of 500 days)... ######, it won't even be this time NEXT YEAR... I just don't like the fact that people are getting approved ahead of us.. Congrats to the May filers who got lucky, but those were uncalled for.. I have to apologize for my previous posts... just a little uneasy today =( I'm sorry about that.. They said they were doing "security checks" on my case... I thought the "checks" (administrative processing) weren't until after you get approved (way after Packet 3 even).. Edited by gogo, 02 November 2007 - 01:23 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2007-11-02 13:20:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	We are the longest one from Guangzhou, China	just take a look at these.. http://www.visajourn...le.php?id=35698 http://www.visajourn...showtopic=94336 I-130 Sent : 2007-05-22 162 days http://www.visajourn...le.php?id=20852 http://www.visajourn...showtopic=94333 I-130 Sent : 2007-05-29 156 days both of these people got approved already... are they even doing it in order?? I know "each case is different".. but not that different... these people are from Mexico and Phillippines... don't tell me they are "highly rated" countries for the USCIS... I can't even concentrate on work or sleep.. it's so frustrating.. 200 days + 6 weeks (NVC trip) + 3-4 months (NVC-> Consulate) + 2 months (Consulate) ==> 500+ days Edited by gogo, 02 November 2007 - 12:48 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2007-11-02 12:45:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	We are the longest one from Guangzhou, China	I know my applications are with the dumb-### USCIS people.. where did I mention in my original post that it was from China?? All I was saying that it is taking them way too long compared with previous people who applied for "China"... .. so what's the whole point of being a US Citizen if we are the last to get approved? I'm trying to find whatever way I can to get approved... emailing the two senators from California , governor, DHS (Homeland Security), white house.gov, whatever it takes.. I lost my patience already and it stings everyday.. time for waiting patiently is over!! Edited by gogo, 02 November 2007 - 12:38 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2007-11-02 12:36:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	We are the longest one from Guangzhou, China	why don't you just chill it? Just because you have your visa already doesn't mean you have to be insensitive towards others.. yes fine, then the dumb-### US has my app for 200 days... those ###### piece of ###### USCIS workers don't do ######.. I'm just trying to look for some sympathy... I thought you would at least know because you been through this journey.. Edited by gogo, 02 November 2007 - 12:29 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2007-11-02 12:27:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	We are the longest one from Guangzhou, China	It's been over 200 days, and not even approval... I just searched Visajourney's timeline for past approvals, and most of them were under 100 days... only a handful were over 100... We are the longest application from there.. What the heck are they doing? Are they trying to win a World's Record or something?? Edited by gogo, 02 November 2007 - 10:54 AM.	gogo	Male	China	2007-11-02 10:53:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Both my applications got transferred...	your welcome, jrmach1.. just finding any way for her to come.. just send an email to the Vice President.. they will respond to you about 2 weeks (letter in the mail like me).. the letter should say someone from Homeland Security will call you regarding your case.. I just received the call yesterday.. and my cases got transferred yesterday (10:00, the transfer was made, and 10:30 he called).. also, my case got touched today too I-129F : Last Updated 11/28 I-130 : Last Update 11/27 (both were transferred 11/27)	gogo	Male	China	2007-11-28 12:51:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Both my applications got transferred...	my latest thing is I got transferred to the LOS ANGELES LOCAL office (both I-130 and I-129F on November 27)... today, the I-129F got touched again (November 28 last updated date).. if it does get approved soon, I have a trick for all you guys still waiting.. email the Vice President (####### Cheney) and President... http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/ talk about how your case is over 180 days and your situation ... I did, and received a letter in the mail in about 2 weeks from them stating they will look into my case (from Homeland security, who is the boss of USCIS).. they want to keep a record of all dealings and will have a person contact me... which was yesterday (from area code 202 -- Washington D.C.).. I got to talking someone from USCIS - Homeland Security Dept.. a person called Mr. Miller... he stated there was something going to happen soon with my case.. Edited by gogo, 28 November 2007 - 10:49 AM.	gogo	Male	China	2007-11-28 10:48:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Both my applications got transferred...	I really hope something will come up soon.. Edited by gogo, 27 November 2007 - 02:41 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2007-11-27 14:40:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Both my applications got transferred...	It's a trap set by them... if both of you can't REPORT to the interview, then it makes your marriage look bad.. but then she can't even come here in the first place!! then they have a good excuse to deny the application, probably stating "not enough evidence of bona-fide relationship".. Also, I have been calling in more than other people.. doesn't that signify more of an urgency (that I actually DO CARE my case? not that you guys don't.. hmmm..) Edited by gogo, 27 November 2007 - 02:34 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2007-11-27 14:33:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Both my applications got transferred...	Outcome not good.. now I feel really bad.. pushbrk mentioned there was ANOTHER recent LOCAL OFFICE transfer.. let me try to find that... Edited by gogo, 27 November 2007 - 02:31 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2007-11-27 14:29:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Both my applications got transferred...	Hi YuAndDan, actually nothing has been approved.. both are sent (transferred) to the LOS ANGELES office this morning (about 1 hour ago).. at least it was a movement on their part.. the number that was left on my voicemail was from area code (202).. seems like it is from Washington.. Thanks Urge To Race!! I'll take a look at it.. Edited by gogo, 27 November 2007 - 02:26 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2007-11-27 14:24:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Both my applications got transferred...	My Honey, yes, they did security checks (background checks + credit checks too) when I got hired .. so I don't get it why they have to do it again so soon... I got hired last September... so half a year's time... also, they can just look at my SSN and look in the system for it.. not too hard Urge to Race, yes, they usually do it on the beneficiary, but sometimes on the petitioner.. this is something from my previous post.. http://www.asianjour.../?c=157&a=12724 To ensure that immigration benefits are given only to eligible applicants, USCIS adopted procedures that address a wide range of possible risk factors. Different kinds of applications undergo different levels of scrutiny. USCIS normally uses the following three background check mechanisms: Inter-Agency Border Inspection System (IBIS) Name Check – IBIS is database of lookouts, warrants, arrests, and convictions consolidated from over 20 agencies.USCIS can quickly check information from these multiple government agencies to determine if the information system affects the adjudication of the case. Results of an IBIS are usually available immediately. In some instance, information found during an IBIS check will require further investigation. FBI Fingerprinting Check – The FBI’s Automated Fingerprint Identification System (IAFIS) matches criminal history records from federal, military, and most state apprehensions.It provides information relating to criminal background within the United States. Generally, the FBI forwards responses to USCIS within 24 to 48 hours. If there is a record match, the FBI forwards an electronic copy of the criminal history to USCIS.At that point, a USCIS adjudicator reviews the information to determine what effect it may have on eligibility benefit. About ten percent of the inquiries submitted by USCIS uncover criminal history, including immigration violations. FBI Name Checks –The FBI name check is totally different from the FBI fingerprint check. USCIS electronically submits the applicant’s name to the FBI National Check Program.The records maintained in the FBI name check process consist of administrative, applicant, criminal, personnel and other files compiled by law enforcement. Initial responses to this check generally take about two weeks. In about 80 percent of the no match is found. Of the remaining 20 percent, most are resolved within six months. Less than one percent of cases remain pending longer than six months. For petitions and application filed in consulates, there are other security checks involved.These are: (1) Visa Condor checks which arise from information disclosed on a Form DS 157 or because a person is from designated terrorist countries like of Iran, Cuba, Syria, Sudan, North Korea or Libya; (2) Visa Mantis checks relating to an applicant, who because of his actions or background, may be involved in the transfer of sensitive technology; and (3) criminal background checks which arise from a hit in the National Crime Information Center (NCIC) database or from other sources.	gogo	Male	China	2007-11-27 14:22:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Both my applications got transferred...	Hi Urge to Race , I have a question.. how do I get an "interview with spouse"? they would let her come to the US just for an interview? well, at least she is able to come somehow.. even just for a few minutes	gogo	Male	China	2007-11-27 14:17:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Both my applications got transferred...	Hi My Honey.. what do you mean? "security checks against my employment"? but I work for public safety (Fire Dept) already.. do I have to work for the White House? I seen how at least a government office works... no security, and can't even make a decent backup.. even worse than private sectors.. so it's too easy to penetrate.. Edited by gogo, 27 November 2007 - 02:15 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2007-11-27 14:13:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Both my applications got transferred...	if this application does take years to approve, you have cost me my love and my family.. I will make the USCIS people suffer.. Edited by gogo, 27 November 2007 - 02:08 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2007-11-27 14:07:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Both my applications got transferred...	now it has been transferred to a LOCAL office.. so it means it will be stuffed into the dungeon and left there to rot? both I-130 and I-129F just got transferred this morning.. about 10AM PST.. I'm not scared of the final interview, because I still haven't gotten that far yet... no need to be scared of something you can't get to.. there still are plenty of problems beforehand.. On November 27, 2007, we transferred this case to our LOS ANGELES, CA location for additional processing. You will be notified by mail when a decision is made, or if the office needs something from you. If you move while this case is pending, call customer service. We process cases in the order we receive them. You can use our processing dates to estimate when this case will be done. This case has been sent to our LOS ANGELES, CA location. Follow the link below to check processing dates. You can also receive automatic e-mail updates as we process your case. Just follow the link below to register. I really don't like America anymore.. their treatment of my case as well as treatment of China in general... not letting them into the international space station "over US Concerns"... they didn't finish the sentence.. "because they fear China will overpower them soon".. I'm going to use this as my jury duty excuse next time I get picked.. I'm just going to choose "Gulity" regardless who.. make all the Americans pay.. Edited by gogo, 27 November 2007 - 02:06 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2007-11-27 14:01:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Both my applications got transferred...	someone just left a voicemail on my work phone stating to call them back.. I just call them back, and he was with the White House Homeland Security responsible for USCIS... they said my applications have been transferred to my local office (Los Angeles) and based on my inquiry has talked with the USCIS about looking at my case... This morning I received two emails stating they have been transferred.. I just want an approval, how hard can that be? I asked them if he knows anything about my security checks.. he said he can't estimate a timeframe of completion.. but that the FBI just checks the name (because my name is similar to another person).. basically, still nothing..	gogo	Male	China	2007-11-27 13:55:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Pleae uelp, so lost and confused	if you are NOT married, you can file for a K1 (fiancee visa).. if you ARE married , you can only file for K3 (I-129F) or CR1 (I-130)... what do you mean "I went through both K1 and K3 visas, but not really sure which one of this option would work best for me."? I think you may also do an "adjustment of status" (not sure, since that doesn't apply to me.. didn't do enough research on it) Edited by gogo, 28 November 2007 - 01:06 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2007-11-28 13:04:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Local Office Interviews..	thanks edp333 for the suggestions!! I'll try to be calm before I start an argument.. hehe..	gogo	Male	China	2007-11-28 13:37:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Local Office Interviews..	YuAndDan, this is my "interview" for just getting approved.. I'm not approved yet for either one.. this is an example of what happens during a "local office interview".. I'll worry about the Guangzhou interview later... this one makes that too easy.. are you able to do something like this : This interview was held with husband and wife separately after the review of documents and tax returns. The officer asked each for their house keys and marked them for comparison. The officer asked for wedding pictures. The officer then asked each to draw their bedroom putting in bed, windows, closets, TV's, lights. What color was the bedroom carpet? Where was the telephone? What color was the telephone? Was the telephone a cordless or corded telephone? When did the wife last cook for the husband? What was cooked? Where was it served? What is the work telephone number for the husband? What are their intentions for children? Duration of this interview was about an hour and a half. and the thing is your answers for these have to match.. not even by one off.. Edited by gogo, 28 November 2007 - 11:25 AM.	gogo	Male	China	2007-11-28 11:23:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Local Office Interviews..	I know these are for K1, but it should be similar.. http://www.ins-fianc...-interview.html http://www.ins-fianc...s-examples.html (Examples of real short, short, long, very long interviews) damn.. that's all I can say.. those "long" and "very long" interviews scare me.. I can't draw her telephone.. I can draw her room, bed, computer, bathroom.. but not that specific.. although I have plenty of photos (1,000+) if they want those.. Edited by gogo, 28 November 2007 - 11:05 AM.	gogo	Male	China	2007-11-28 11:04:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Desperate :(	to hell with being an american... I'll fight for my own country now.. seems I lost all confidence in our government system (well, this part of it)..even though the other part is trying to help, they really can't do much until this FBI Name check thing is through..	gogo	Male	China	2007-11-28 18:58:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Desperate :(	awwww.. now I'm in 2nd place.. I even lose the longest immigration race... no offense, nerdette.. ... I sent my complaint (1) a whole page letter stating my situation - working for government , US Citizen, how my application is over 180 days, how I am going to give them deadline of 1/1/2008, and other stuff.., 2) an authorization for privacy statement, and 3) latest case status printed from the web stating 4/27/07 last case status)... I sent these to about 18 congressmen in California (including mine)... also, sent it to 2 senators from California, governor, senate.gov, also the vice president too.. also to a few other Assembly members, U.S. Attorneys, Attorney General... basically, make everyone you know in the government know about your case.. even the vice president and president (I didn't find the president's email, only vice president).. and it somehow went through.. I received a letter two weeks after, and also a phone call from them just yesterday.. Edited by gogo, 28 November 2007 - 06:14 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2007-11-28 18:11:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Desperate :(	I make you so proud, Divine Mercy.. but seriously, it did get some results for me.. at least my case has been touched twice in the last 2 days.. Edited by gogo, 28 November 2007 - 06:04 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2007-11-28 18:03:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Desperate :(	nerdette, here's a post I did on another thread.. hope this helps =) ==================================== my latest thing is I got transferred to the LOS ANGELES LOCAL office (both I-130 and I-129F on November 27)... today, the I-129F got touched again (November 28 last updated date).. if it does get approved soon, I have a trick for all you guys still waiting.. email the Vice President (####### Cheney) and President... http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/ talk about how your case is over 180 days and your situation ... I did, and received a letter in the mail in about 2 weeks from them stating they will look into my case (from Homeland security, who is the boss of USCIS).. they want to keep a record of all dealings and will have a person contact me... which was yesterday (from area code 202 -- Washington D.C.).. I got to talking someone from USCIS - Homeland Security Dept.. a person called Mr. Miller... good.gif he stated there was something going to happen soon with my case..	gogo	Male	China	2007-11-28 14:22:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	why are people attacking me?	yes, but you got approved in less time than me.. really good for you I have to give you that.. this 1st step is the worst.. waiting for almost 7 months, and yet they tell me I'm going through security checks..	gogo	Male	China	2007-11-29 10:58:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	why are people attacking me?	You can learn some better grammar too.. Me thinks.. don't go attacking SusieK now.. Edited by gogo, 29 November 2007 - 10:56 AM.	gogo	Male	China	2007-11-29 10:55:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	why are people attacking me?	thanks guys for the defense.. guess some people are more cold-blooded than even the USCIS... Like you say, rebecca, maybe I am repeating myself.. but I am just trying to help others, just as they have helped me when I did research to apply for I-130 / I-129F.. I give them my experience to help them out (not like Platypius there who didn't even fill out a timeline).. I sometime do things that other people won't do.. have you contact your Vice President's office to get something done? I am willing to do anything to get her here.. just like you for your loved one too.. I have given support, and also received support from many people on VisaJourney.. thank you everyone.. almost everyone has put up with my complaints.. =) thanks for your patience.. Edited by gogo, 29 November 2007 - 10:55 AM.	gogo	Male	China	2007-11-29 10:53:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	why are people attacking me?	then you can't make a comment.. because you don't know enough about my situation..	gogo	Male	China	2007-11-29 10:46:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	why are people attacking me?	thank you anan... I don't get them.. they are already approved, and also within a short time.. so they don't understand me.. I was just trying to help pechez out.. he even asked me for help on another topic.. DID HE EVER ASK YOU, REBECCA OR PLATYPUS? Just because you guys have a lot of posts, doesn't mean you are helping.. it just means you have nothing better to do at home.. right now, you should be celebrating with your loved ones.. instead of sitting here looking like a dork in front of the computer the whole day... I am IN FRONT OF THE COMPUTER THE WHOLE DAY because for my wife.. You ask other people on here on what kinds of things I have been doing to get approved... I have found ways that normal people don't go through... don't think about, or can't search for.. Edited by gogo, 29 November 2007 - 10:42 AM.	gogo	Male	China	2007-11-29 10:42:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	why are people attacking me?	so what is it with you guys? you like to get people while they are down? It seems you both got approved well within 100 days... so YOU DON'T KNOW THE FRUSTRATION OF WAITING.. you can't even spell Platypus, right? dumbass.. you don't even have a timeline to help others, so what the ###### are you talking about? 5 months of waiting and you think you can outdo me? Edited by gogo, 29 November 2007 - 10:39 AM.	gogo	Male	China	2007-11-29 10:38:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	why are people attacking me?	FINE, if you think I cause more HARM here, then I'll just delete my account... see you guys, it's been fun	gogo	Male	China	2007-11-29 10:17:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	why are people attacking me?	if that is the case, then I'm not going to help.. I wasn't talking about MY CASE to him.. he can use what I have posted recently to approach his case in different ways.. FINE, I JUST WON'T HELP ANYMORE.. rebeccajo, I was just trying to help pechez with his problem.. Edited by gogo, 29 November 2007 - 10:05 AM.	gogo	Male	China	2007-11-29 10:04:00