Forum	Title	Content	Member	Sex	Country	Date/Time
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Case on hold for calling too much!	these might help http://www.duluth.li...ct/Federal.html http://www.visaserve.....ct%20List.pdf Also, just look up fax numbers regarding your senators, congressmen and ombudsman.. Edited by gogo, 12 February 2008 - 02:24 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2008-02-12 14:23:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Case on hold for calling too much!	Thanks for the article! I'm reading it now..	gogo	Male	China	2008-02-12 12:08:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Case on hold for calling too much!	go Obama! haha, just reading your signature.. but I am getting nervous, even though I am mad.. but even like my dad say : What's the worst that can happen? You move back to China and be with her.. They can't do anything else, because they don't have authority in China.. haha..	gogo	Male	China	2008-02-12 11:47:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Case on hold for calling too much!	haha, Thanks SusieK!! I hope you get your approval soon too and not have to go through what I am going through.. but like I said, that day (February 21) is an all-or-nothing day... I have seen the decision made right after the interview.. I am really worried about what they are going to ask and hope for a quick interview.. I really hope it is nothing like the "stokes" interview..	gogo	Male	China	2008-02-12 11:38:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Case on hold for calling too much!	I'm going to throw the dartboard at USCIS.. is that what you meant? quick overview of my case too.. transfer from NBC => CSC => local office => NBC => local office .. and that's where it stands.. To USCIS : on February 21, be prepared for a showdown!! Edited by gogo, 12 February 2008 - 11:31 AM.	gogo	Male	China	2008-02-12 11:28:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Case on hold for calling too much!	if I DIDN'T do what I did, then I would still be sitting here twiddling my thumbs instead of getting an interview with them.. They brought the battle, and I'll bring the ammunition!! Firstenburg, forget about this so-called Becky person.. just call again after a few days.. MsZ says we all should wait our "slice" of the USCIS time.. well, sometimes this "slice" is much bigger (like in my case).. 311 days just to get ###### approved... I don't think so.. that is almost DOUBLE of what other people are waiting at.. so I had to do something in my position.. by faxing letters, calling them and getting a STRAIGHT answer... and that is how I got my LOCAL OFFICE INTERVIEW set up.. I have seen people waiting from 2006 and not doing anything.. This isn't some item you buy at the store and if they run out of stock , you just sit there waiting.. This is a life between you and your spouse!! I AM NOT GOING TO LOSE TO THEM... They know I have been calling too (my most was about 2 weeks ago.. got fed up and called 4 times).. they even knew it and didn't get mad.. because I was going to get mad first if I heard another stupid reply like this : "There are many factors that may affect your case...".. My reply : "WHAT THE #### ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!!" Then that CSC person got mad too.. but I said "what the hell are you getting mad at me for? You can't even do your job right!" ... Then I got my local office interview.. well, after a few days getting mad at them.. (since it was already under security checks, I knew about the local office interview already).. Edited by gogo, 12 February 2008 - 11:27 AM.	gogo	Male	China	2008-02-12 11:22:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Case on hold for calling too much!	Nita.. you only submitted the letter twice so far? You can do better than that.. I was expecting you to submit twice in ONE DAY.. Anyhow, some people (like me) TAKE ACTION because it has taken so long to do something already.. I have faxed HUNDREDS of faxes already (I have about 100 fax numbers, and did about 20-30 every time I faxed).. I don't bother faxing the USCIS because it will get nothing done.. get the other people to FORCE them to do things.. I had seen people who are still patiently waiting for something to get done.. that is NOT the way to approach this.. don't be afraid of the USCIS... don't let them control your lives and your every move..	gogo	Male	China	2008-02-12 11:16:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Case on hold for calling too much!	they are hornswaggle.. the USCIS... for those we don't know the meaning... hornswaggle - Moby Thesaurus II by Grady Ward, 1.0 : 36 Moby Thesaurus words for "hornswaggle": bamboozle, beguile, betray, bluff, cajole, cheat on, circumvent, conjure, deceive, delude, diddle, double-cross, dupe, forestall, gammon, get around, gull, hoax, hocus-pocus, humbug, juggle, let down, mock, outmaneuver, outreach, outsmart, outwit, overreach, pigeon, play one false, put something over, snow, string along, take in, trick, two-time you can choose one (or all) and just apply it to them.. Edited by gogo, 11 February 2008 - 05:54 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2008-02-11 17:53:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Case on hold for calling too much!	hornswaggle... Edited by gogo, 11 February 2008 - 05:42 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2008-02-11 17:42:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Case on hold for calling too much!	you go girl!!	gogo	Male	China	2008-02-11 17:13:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Case on hold for calling too much!	and that's why you should start complaining, haha... like what I did.. I seen people who got transferred to local office way before me (in 2006) and still waiting there for USCIS to do something.. but YOU should do something and make more people aware of your case.. I have provided lots of numbers / contact info for you.. it's all up to you.. I can get you more (but I think it is different because you live in different place to contact your senators, congresmen, and others).. basically, just be prepared for the "worst-case" scenario as well as the "best case" (approval).. I have talked with my parents and wife and WILL MOVE back to China to be with her if we fail.. I really don't want it that way, but ANYWHERE is good if I am with her... it really doesn't matter.. we can have a happy family in America, China, Iceland, Africa, Antarctica even... we are on this Earth for no more than 100 years (avg).. so enjoy the time with that special someone.. MY RULE : DON'T LET USCIS CONTROL YOUR LIVES AND WHO YOU WANT TO BE WITH... Their system is stupid and inefficient (the right hand doesn't know if the left hand slapped it or not).. QUOTE Nita - Going to bump the thread a bit but what has been the outcome on your senator or congress persons assistance on this wait time - I understand the tension in the region where your SO is, but NOVEMBER 2006??? Hugs hun Edited by gogo, 11 February 2008 - 04:52 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2008-02-11 16:48:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Case on hold for calling too much!	well, you can just write to your senators, congressmen, white house (vice president, president), ombudsman, district attorneys, governor, whoever.. that's what I did.. and fax often to bug the hell out of them.. One of the people called from the senators office and left a message : We received your request and appreciate it if you didn't send more. We recently received 9 faxes just last week regarding your situation. Your original one was sent in November." Write to anything that has a .gov extension =) Make the whole country know about the issue that you are having.... Here's something to get your started : http://www.duluth.li...ct/Federal.html http://www.visaserve.....tact List.pdf Edited by gogo, 11 February 2008 - 04:33 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2008-02-11 16:31:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Case on hold for calling too much!	good, so writing faxes does help.. look up some of my previous posts (for the link) to write to the different people.. sometimes you do have to complain a lot if nothing gets done (as in my case).. Edited by gogo, 11 February 2008 - 04:20 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2008-02-11 16:20:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Case on hold for calling too much!	well, I called after 6 months.. about 6 1/2.. so I'm not "jumping the gun".. but you shouldn't have to call everyday.. maybe if you are really, really late (maybe like I was, at around 9 months time and still nothing)... well, you can also do some faxing letters.. Edited by gogo, 11 February 2008 - 03:05 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2008-02-11 15:04:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Case on hold for calling too much!	call again... you should bug them get a STRAIGHT answer... the most I called was 4 times in one day (2 weeks ago to get this LOCAL OFFICE INTERVIEW).. they knew that too, they can tell.. haha.. I would be on the phone the whole day bugging the hell out of them to get my answer, but I have to work.. I even got mad at one ... she told me "there are many factors that may affect your case...".. I told her to stop reading and "shut it" + some bad words... then I asked for her supervisor... =) QUOTE (Jimmy and Angela @ Feb 11 2008, 02:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> just called the RFE line and the very rude lady there told me I call too much and I can only call every 30 days. She said that she would not check my account for me and even if she did there won't be any work done on it because after it is assigned to an officer that it will still take 30 days to hear anything !!!!! Does anyone in USCIS know what they are doing ???????? Edited by gogo, 11 February 2008 - 02:49 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2008-02-11 14:44:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Case on hold for calling too much!	keep pushing, that's all I say... just take a look at me.. finally got something done with them.. people say don't mess with the government and seem scared of them.. well, I DON'T.. I want my wife to be here, so we can have a good family together.. DON'T GIVE UP.. never let the USCIS control you.. if I were you, I would send letters to my senators, congressmen, white house (vice president, president), whoever.. I have sent so many faxes recently that the senators office told me "we appreciate if you would stop sending, we recently received 9 of your faxes just in the last week"... that's because I faxed not just to them, but to others (so it fowarded to them, hehe).. Edited by gogo, 11 February 2008 - 02:42 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2008-02-11 14:40:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	OMG USCIS actually friendly and helpful	he's probably still new...	gogo	Male	China	2008-02-19 12:48:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	YAY!!!! YAY!!!! YAY!!!! YAY!!!!	yay, we defeated the WACs... well almost.. until I actually get the NOA2 paper in the mail, then I'm still "suspicious" of celebrating.. haha.. a verbal agreement means nothing... especially not with the WACs there.. but nevertheless it is a big step for me..	gogo	Male	China	2008-02-22 10:30:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	YAY!!!! YAY!!!! YAY!!!! YAY!!!!	wow, so many congrats for us... I'm embarrassed.. haha... thank you everyone!! If any of you have any questions, I can help look it up before I start my research for Packet 3 and Packet 4.. well, she is starting on Packet 3 now (we aren't going to wait, haha).. and I would have to start my research on what Packet 3 and 4 contains (we have the link to the Guangzhou website already with the forms, just have to go look through it more).. of course I may not have all the answers, but I want to give other people a chance to fight and not give up!!	gogo	Male	China	2008-02-22 10:09:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	YAY!!!! YAY!!!! YAY!!!! YAY!!!!	nooooooooo..... local interviews are BAD STUFF... they are suspicious of your case.. even this officer told me upfront about that.. he said it was because lots of cases have been fraud cases (also , especially among the young people).. get approved the normal way.. but if you do end up like me, you can bring your other family members to help (preferably your parents, since they have known you the longest).. or whoever has known you the longest.. Basically, It was THEIR IDEA to have the local interview, since they didn't trust me... The local office has the power because they are SUPPOSED to do only I-485 (Naturalization) green card interviews... I would assume they are more powerful than the USCIS Service centers.. well, once we get past the I-130/I-129F stage.. I think the local office does the adjustment stuff as well as the Naturalization stuff... yes, faith11, this was a long fight.. "all or nothing" like I had put it.. but I got the "all" on my side... just like my signature says... we are finally going to be together Edited by gogo, 21 February 2008 - 07:12 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2008-02-21 19:08:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	YAY!!!! YAY!!!! YAY!!!! YAY!!!!	haha, thanks everyone!! still feeling that "adrenaline" pumping... even after 1 hour.. just can't believe the interview went so fast... Rebecca, yes this is only "halfway" for me... only the approval for me.. but that's good enough for now... I can have patience waiting again.. hopefully she will be here before the end of the year... I made a promise (either way on what happens) we won't be apart for Christmas again... I haven't visited her on any of the major holidays, so we haven't been together... well, at least it is a start, so that's good.. they will be sending the application to the consulate within 1-2 weeks (as to what I saw from others who had a local interview)... wow, I still can't believe it.. I was expecting very hard questions or having you to draw her room or something like that.. some of you it seem also have a recent approval... Congrats QaSiM--aIsHa!!! Yay, now you are on your way out too... I hope that you get to be with your spouse soon... good luck!! and good luck to all those that are still waiting ... if you need any help, SusieK, tell me.. seems like "bringing the parents" work.. but I know some of us are too old to bring our parents... Edited by gogo, 21 February 2008 - 06:33 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2008-02-21 18:29:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	YAY!!!! YAY!!!! YAY!!!! YAY!!!!	not sure, he didn't say actually... The local interview was actually for my I-130... I'll take anything now.. while we were leaving, he even told his supervisor that "there was no problem with our case, we will approve it right away..." Edited by gogo, 21 February 2008 - 06:10 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2008-02-21 18:09:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	YAY!!!! YAY!!!! YAY!!!! YAY!!!!	thanks everyone!! it's been 311 days for I-130 and 255 days for I-129F... but I hear the I-129F is not longer valid??... so 311 days.. whew... (10 months) now for the next step.. all we did was go over the big speed bump in the middle.. now it's downhill and the journey to the other side... I'll be busy preparing Packet 3 and Packet 4 soon... the guy even said that he would send it 'directly to Guangzhou Consulate, no need for NVC".... but is that true? Edited by gogo, 21 February 2008 - 06:03 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2008-02-21 18:02:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	YAY!!!! YAY!!!! YAY!!!! YAY!!!!	yay.. we are so happy now.. Edited by gogo, 21 February 2008 - 05:57 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2008-02-21 17:56:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	YAY!!!! YAY!!!! YAY!!!! YAY!!!!	YAY!!!! WE GOT APPROVED!!! I went with my parents to the local office and sat there for 2 hours in the waiting room.. then they called my name and an asian person called us in.. before we had even sat down, he asked "who are these people with you?".. my dad said "dad and mom"... then he said "in that case, you will be approved".. then he just asked my parents a couple of questions (where are you guys from, how long lived in US, have you met her and her parents).. then he looked at some pictures from the backpack I brought.. (maybe 6-10).. I didn't even have to show my DVD or my copies of my forms.. then he said: "We are doing this because there are many fraud apps with young people".. "if the parents are there, it would be much better... automatic wild (trump) card"... we didn't even have time to react.. everything was over in less than 2 minutes.. we didn't have time to get comfortable (not that I wanted to) in the chairs yet... so if you want to get approved.. GET YOUR PARENTS TO COME AND SUPPORT YOU (or other CLOSE family members -- brothers and sisters)... Edited by gogo, 21 February 2008 - 05:54 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2008-02-21 17:49:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Local Office Interviews	Thanks Nita&Assaad!! No need to apologize... I am still worried about if it is real or not.. they aren't the most "trusted" people when they say things... I'll celebrate more when I get the NOA2 paper in the mail... does anyone know how long a local office interview approval will take to get the NOA2 in the mail? I'm guessing about 1-2 weeks.. I'll be calling next Friday (to USCIS) to see if I have an approval or not.. then the following Friday again if I don't get the NOA2 in the mail by then... Edited by gogo, 22 February 2008 - 12:26 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2008-02-22 12:26:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Local Office Interviews	oh, haha.. you didn't read my other topic here it is... http://www.visajourn...howtopic=111838 basically this is it, but there other "additions" throughout the topic =) "I went with my parents to the local office and sat there for 2 hours in the waiting room.. then they called my name and an asian person called us in.. before we had even sat down, he asked "who are these people with you?".. my dad said "dad and mom"... then he said "in that case, you will be approved".. then he just asked my parents a couple of questions (where are you guys from, how long lived in US, have you met her and her parents).. then he looked at some pictures from the backpack I brought.. (maybe 6-10).. I didn't even have to show my DVD or my copies of my forms.. then he said: "We are doing this because there are many fraud apps with young people".. "if the parents are there, it would be much better... automatic wild (trump) card"... we didn't even have time to react.. everything was over in less than 2 minutes.. we didn't have time to get comfortable (not that I wanted to) in the chairs yet... so if you want to get approved.. GET YOUR PARENTS TO COME AND SUPPORT YOU (or other CLOSE family members -- brothers and sisters)..."	gogo	Male	China	2008-02-22 12:11:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Local Office Interviews	my main question was the guy said that they will "forward the application (don't know which one, forgot to ask.. most likely the I-130 now because that was what the interview was for on the paper) to the Guangzhou Consulate".. does that mean they will skip over the NVC? I couldn't find any information about this.. so I am still suspicious of the recent approval..	gogo	Male	China	2008-02-22 11:39:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Local Office Interviews	does this happen often to the I-129F/I-130 applications.. I have seen lots of stuff on the web as to the I-130/I-485.. I hope that they didn't mess up my app.. but the guy did say what kind of application it was for : I said "I-130/I-129F for K3 Visa"... can you guys help me find some stuff on local office interviews and what happens when you get approved? Thanks..	gogo	Male	China	2008-02-22 11:24:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	YEE-HAW! NVC HAS OUR CASE!!	Thanks everyone again!! sorry to make this an everyday thing.. haha.. but the time has come for my battle.. even if I lose the battle, the war is not over.. I still have aces up my sleeves.. one would be called "direct filing" (when I move to China).. I can always try again and use direct filing (which is hopefully faster to do)... if not, another ace would be "sue" the USCIS.. more expensive, but my case would be known by a lot more people.. and the judge and jury would surely be at my side..	gogo	Male	China	2008-02-20 17:34:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	YEE-HAW! NVC HAS OUR CASE!!	yes, 1 more day for me.. 1 day and 3 minutes ... I am very nervous inside.. but my parents did tell me whatever happens will happen.. either way (living in US or China) will be determined.. but I'm just afraid I didn't put up enough of a fight to bring her here.. It would have been wonderful if she can move here.. I actually don't feel there would be a good outcome (if there was, there should have been already)... they are just going to keep asking difficult questions to me, in spite of my evidence.. did you see today's news? http://www.cnn.com/v...y.deported.kpnx they are mean Congrats Jamie & Dora... yay!! Soon you guys would be together!! That would be so wonderful!!! YAY!!!! Edited by gogo, 20 February 2008 - 03:57 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2008-02-20 15:54:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	YEE-HAW! NVC HAS OUR CASE!!	you a lyin... lol Edited by gogo, 20 February 2008 - 03:47 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2008-02-20 15:47:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Question to those who entered USA with K3 visa	probably bring it with your hand luggage (just to be safe).. It will be a problem if you had to go searching in your luggage for it if they asked for it.. that would look bad on your part..	gogo	Male	China	2007-10-29 10:19:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Local Office Numbers	here's a link of all the acronyms you will find =0 http://www.aila.org/...spx?docid=21564	gogo	Male	China	2008-02-25 10:47:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Local Office Numbers	Yay.. I just found a list for you guys... http://www.immigrati...p/t-201370.html but these are only for your field LOCAL OFFICES though.. well, they are probably more helpful than the CSC anyway...	gogo	Male	China	2008-02-25 10:07:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	K-3 affidavit of support	I don't think you do a I-864 for K3.. "You also need to begin preparing an I-134 Affidavit of Support. The I-134 Affidavit of Support will be filled out by the US Citizen and sent to the spouse for the K3 interview. It is not required to be sent to the Service Center with the I-129F. Some Consulates require extra information to be included with the Affidavit, some may not even require the Affidavit itself, but still require the supporting documentation, so you need to hang onto it until you have learned whether or not there are additional requirements. These will be listed on the OF-167 "financial support" document the spouse receives from the Consulate. " http://www.visajourn...4visa-I129f.htm	gogo	Male	China	2008-02-27 10:53:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	K-3 affidavit of support	take a look at this page http://www.uscis.gov...00045f3d6a1RCRD I know it is for last year.. but the numbers are similar to there... 2007 POVERTY GUIDELINES* Minimum Income Requirement for Use in Completing Form I-864 For the 48 Contiguous States, the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, the U.S. Virgin Islands, and Guam: Sponsor's Household Size 100% Poverty Line 125% Poverty Line 2 13,690 17,112 3 17,170 21,462 4 20,650 25,812 5 24,130 30,162 6 27,610 34,512 7 31,090 38,862 8 34,570 43,212 Add $3,480 for each additional person Add $4,350 for each additional person that chart is crooked... basically for "you and your spouse" (2 people) you would need $17,112 (125% Poverty Level)... Edited by gogo, 27 February 2008 - 10:51 AM.	gogo	Male	China	2008-02-27 10:50:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	interesting tidbit of news...	that's something we have to do for China.. they are real picky.. it basically 1-2 pages of how you two met , and give a timeframe of everything after that.. paragraph form (like a story, not just a timeline).. I wrote one in English already, and she wrote one in Chinese / English.. the interviewers may not be Chinese after all.. I just found the stuff on Candleforlove (mainly for China Guangzhou consulate).. also something about a picture of you in front of a post office holding a local newspaper.. where the date of newspaper and post office address are visible.. now this rule is stupid, haha.. but I still want to do it.. I see a lot of people getting blue slips (pass/fail - pink is pass, blue is need more evidence, white is fail).. normally they will give out blue slips before they give out a nasty white... you get about 2 or 3 chances, so that's good.. but I hear you have to repay the consulate fee, which is not good =( well, anyway, take a look at some interviews that happened in your consulate.. and just try to do everything.. just like my local office interview.. I had prepared for everything, but it was a quick 2 minute interview (mainly because my parents were there too, everyone dressed up).. it's better to be more than prepared than not.. Edited by gogo, 27 February 2008 - 02:34 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2008-02-27 14:31:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	interesting tidbit of news...	haha, I'm still confused.. if that is the case, then why are we waiting at the NVC in the first place? Can't they just "forward" our I-129F (since they are linked anyway now) to our consulates?.. or maybe this 4 months for Guangzhou Consulate is the "forwarding and receiving" part?...something is wrong in this situation.. well, the whole thing is wrong, but I'm at this certain part now.. Edited by gogo, 27 February 2008 - 02:21 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2008-02-27 14:21:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	interesting tidbit of news...	still not sure yet, when the NOA2 notice arrives in the mail.. that's when I will know.. I made a local office appointment on March 7 (infopass), just in case... but hopefully it will be here before then.. to tell you the truth, I don't know even if I am approved or not.. I'm not celebrating round 1 victory until I get that paper in hand.. then the round 2 battle will be the consulate battle.. I have seen some things I need to prepare (not just packet 3 or packet 4).. a "letter of evolution relationship" and also "all tickets / trips I made to China".. but that is just for people who are in China =) Edited by gogo, 27 February 2008 - 02:05 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2008-02-27 14:04:00