Forum	Title	Content	Member	Sex	Country	Date/Time
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Another excuse by USCIS..	LaL, well, I got this from her neighbor, who works for the China Consulate/Embassy before ( but now she has helped others file visa since that time)... according to her, I can't send her certificate in now.. they won't be able to match it together with her petitions.. if there was a problem from the start, they will just push it aside until later.. but I'm not sure on this.. since they didn't ask for a RFE, can I still send it in? She actually had the "former" ceritificate right from the start when I filed it.. but we discussed it and I saw that people were just sending in their divorce certificates only, and it seemed to work.. so we didn't send that in along with the I-130 or the I-129F... have people sent in stuff just because it was missing from the start? However, I should get a RFE at least to add to my case, but I never did.. that is wrong on their part, but I can't prove that... so at least I have the letter from the FBI saying I had no security/background checks done on my case.. so pretty much it is good for the lawsuit.. the court will hopefully be on my side with all my infopasses/calls.. Edited by gogo, 11 July 2008 - 01:00 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2008-07-11 12:55:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Another excuse by USCIS..	also the article states this right after the chart: "USCIS adjudications officers and managers are rated on productivity based on numerical formulas for expected case completions." I haven't had a chance to take a look at the whole thing.. but I'll read it sooner or later... seems like they have a "quota" everyday, and do the easier cases first.. and then pile any cases with problems in a different pile.. but I knew this long before from a few other sources..	gogo	Male	China	2008-07-11 12:53:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Another excuse by USCIS..	Todd_Leah, I did everything I can.. letters to senators, congressmen, ombudsman, presidential candidates (haha), whoever works there.. their letters come back with the same thing... "since they aren't done with background checks, we can't continue with your case".. something like that.. also, that local office interview was promising too... I brought my parents too for the interview, and they interviewed my parents as to the "validity" of our marriage (have they met her and her family? and other stuff like that).. the guy said everything looked good and you will get your approval within 2-3 weeks.. but recently (from the various sources I gathered), they transferred my case back to the local office again (my last infopass in mid-June, they told me that my case was "received in May 2008").. I asked them what happens between my priority date (April 2007) and May 2008, and they said they didn't know.. they come out with so many excuses about our case... it's not even funny.. so I'm trying to "disprove" them by collecting my own stuff... also, I filed the "writ of mandamus" (lawsuit) with a team of lawyers and hopefully that will help out.. I hear this article is good for people who are under "security checks"... http://www.aila.org/...spx?docid=25895 (pages 8-12) shows what kind of departments they go through (not necessarily the FBI - more likely the ICE group).. haha, I collected a lot of information in my time.. look for something called the "FDNS Referral Flow Chart" (that's where these so-called "RFEs" come in).. Edited by gogo, 11 July 2008 - 12:50 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2008-07-11 12:46:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Another excuse by USCIS..	thanks shenxu.. but sometimes you don't want to wait too long.. If she was here already, then they can take a few years and I wouldn't care..	gogo	Male	China	2008-07-11 12:42:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Another excuse by USCIS..	haha, no they didn't.. that's the thing.. if they wanted me to send some more, they would do that.. here's the latest service request I did on my case (July 7, 2008).. The status of this service request is: This case is in process and was sent to the USCIS local office in Los Angeles in November, 2007 for field review and investigation. The case file is currently in transit to this location, California Service Center. You will be notified by mail when a decision has been made or if additional evidence would be needed. if you haven't followed up.. that is a "new" message to me.. normally they will say I was under "security checks" or "additional processing".. but I had a local office interview in February 2008, and also a letter from FBI (March 2008) that I had sent to the president stating I had no security checks done on my case.. so hopefully they are telling the truth this time.. it is ACTUALLY going back to CSC??... wow... maybe, maybe not... also, another "excuse" when I called the 1-800 number... they said : "your case has been transferred to the local office, but since they don't have processing times for these types of cases (I even told them they don't normally go there).. then we don't know how long your case will be processed.. you should check with your local office.." and you saw my last post on the local office visit.. so they aren't too helpful... Edited by gogo, 11 July 2008 - 12:36 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2008-07-11 12:33:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Another excuse by USCIS..	they said I need to submit the former marriage certificate from a previous marriage for her.. I thought the only thing you needed was the divorce certificate.. I didn't submit it, so they are placing my file in the "problem" pile.. is this correct? they said that was a problem with my case.. so let's say if you were married 5 times, then you have to find all 4 former marriage certificates (plus the 4 divorce papers)... that's not fair.. just because we lack one paper, they have to hold it a long time.. http://www.uscis.gov.../I-130instr.pdf You have to prove that there is a family relationship between you and your relative. If you are filing for: 1. A husband or wife, submit the following documentation: What Documents Do You Need to Prove Family Relationship? C. A passport-style color photo of yourself and a passport-style color photo of your husband or wife, taken within 30 days of the date of this petition. The photos must have a white background and be glossy unretouched and not mounted. The dimensions of the full frontal facial image should be about 1 inch from the chin to top of the hair. Using pencil or felt pen, lightly print the name (and Alien Registration Number, if known) on the back of each photograph. B. If either you or your spouse were previously married, submit copies of documents showing that all prior marriages were legally terminated. (*THIS MEANS ONLY THE DIVORCE CERTIFICATE NEEDED, NOT THE FORMAL MARRAIGE CERITIFICATE*) A. A copy of your marriage certificate. D. A completed and signed Form G-325A, Biographic Information, for you and a Form G-325A for your husband or wife. Except for your name and signature you do not have to repeat on Form G-325A the information given on your Form I-130 petition. Edited by gogo, 11 July 2008 - 11:52 AM.	gogo	Male	China	2008-07-11 11:50:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Approval finally after 375 days!	Congrats!! YAY.. so there is still hope...	gogo	Male	China	2008-07-15 15:16:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Visa Journey "estimated" approval times	haha, watch what happens when mine gets approved..	gogo	Male	China	2008-07-09 12:50:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	My wife get frustrated from waiting and want to divorce	oh, but I'm the petitioner in the US (US Citizen), and I had a local office interview for the I-130.. the standard interview should be for the petitioner living in the US.. this is different from the regular interview that everyone gets at the Consulate.. sort of a "pre-interview"... that's to clarify for you.. Edited by gogo, 15 July 2008 - 03:20 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2008-07-15 15:19:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	My wife get frustrated from waiting and want to divorce	you should do that to USCIS.. Edited by gogo, 15 July 2008 - 01:11 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2008-07-15 13:11:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	My wife get frustrated from waiting and want to divorce	you will probably need a lawyer for this one.. they are suspicious and won't let go of my case..	gogo	Male	China	2008-07-15 13:08:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	My wife get frustrated from waiting and want to divorce	they are suspicious of your case.. I had a local office interview at the LOS ANGELES office back in February 2008.. I brought my parents too and he (immigration officer) was asking them questions on have they met her and her family, did you attend the wedding, those kind of questions.. I also brought a whole backpack full of pictures, and two other backpacks full of evidence (call logs, emails, western unions, receipts, and other things).. Edited by gogo, 15 July 2008 - 01:01 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2008-07-15 13:01:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	My wife get frustrated from waiting and want to divorce	Thanks Paris_Husband, I hope that your "problem" isn't really a big one and that you guys can get it solved.. You guys will be together soon enough.. You might even get approved ahead of me.. Edited by gogo, 14 July 2008 - 05:28 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2008-07-14 17:28:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	My wife get frustrated from waiting and want to divorce	hi Paris' husband Edited by gogo, 14 July 2008 - 05:15 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2008-07-14 17:15:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	My wife get frustrated from waiting and want to divorce	no, I just go cut my hair.. then I show her that I got a haircut.. and she says "yay" (this is all on the webcam too).. seriously, if you do something she doesn't like, she will get mad.. try to think of it in her shoes.. why she feels that way.. maybe you and her can agree on something to do with your hair.. but to tell you the truth, that's a big argument coming from a small one.. it is not worth it.. especially when you are still on this rough visa journey together.. besides, you can argue so much later too , hehe.. there's better things to do now than argue.. Edited by gogo, 14 July 2008 - 03:41 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2008-07-14 15:39:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	My wife get frustrated from waiting and want to divorce	I want some "lip service" from my wife..	gogo	Male	China	2008-07-14 15:23:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	My wife get frustrated from waiting and want to divorce	I'm tired of waiting.. hehe... but I'm staying here until it gets approved..	gogo	Male	China	2008-07-14 14:23:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	My wife get frustrated from waiting and want to divorce	Do You Believe In Fate? I heard a quote from a movie that is coming out in awhile that struck me and stuck with me. It goes, "...fate can only take you so far, the rest is up to you." Fate got Romeo and Juliet together, and it set everything up, but in the end, I do believe we have some say in how we turn out. Fate can make things happen, such as the case in Romeo and Juliet, but it was also the love between them, the deep emotions that ran through their hearts mixed with the scorn and hatred driven in by their parents. Their actions may have been predestined, but they were their own. They may not have realized the consequence of their love, but even if they did, they didn't care. Things happen because of fate, and actions happen because of things. It's a never ending circle of power and feeling, destiny and actions. Each depends on the other, yet each has the power to affect everything on it's own. Fate needs the action of it's "puppet" just like the puppet needs the puppeteer. One can't exist without the other. People's hearts will run freely, and fate simply will lead them, but the rest is up to them to achieve, even if fate is guiding them, the power to stop fate lies simply in a strong gesture where the "puppet" has the power to become the "puppeteer." Edited by gogo, 14 July 2008 - 02:17 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2008-07-14 14:15:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	My wife get frustrated from waiting and want to divorce	only you can tell that for yourself.. to see if she is real or not.. she can not hide the "fake" emotions forever.. there's bound to be time when you discover the truth.. what I mean is that you can tell by the actions by her and her family.. they can only hide their true feelings for so long.. Edited by gogo, 14 July 2008 - 01:22 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2008-07-14 13:21:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	My wife get frustrated from waiting and want to divorce	wow, that's a wonderful phrase.. I haven't given up on my case yet, so you shouldn't either.. like our case, we may cry every week, but we will stay strong and keep pushing.. I told her that she is my "strong baby".. haha.. it's childish I know, but it works.. I really do mean it though.. you need to comfort each other and always be there to support each other.. a few times I have "crashed" emotionally because of the long wait and also cried.. then she will say "we will get approved soon and have a wonderful family" and say other things to comfort me.. so now I stay strong for the fight.. I'm not giving up and neither should you.. we may be long in our battle, but the reward will definitely overshadow the war.. when times are tough, just look to each other for support.. that's what marriage and love is about.. Edited by gogo, 14 July 2008 - 01:10 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2008-07-14 13:08:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	My wife get frustrated from waiting and want to divorce	and that's why I'm willing to fight (even with the US government) on behalf of the two of us.. if you didn't know, mormp3, I'm doing a lawsuit against them to hurry up with my case.. but seeing how this post is about you, I'll leave it at that.. I will bring loads of hurt upon them for doing this to us.. My parents, friends, and I will all attend the court date when it happens.. at least you found out before you starting having a life together.. guess she wasn't as strong as you about the distance/time being apart.. that is why I made a promise to my wife.. I will call her everyday no matter what.. we will at least talk for a hour or two.. I just call to simply see how her day was (and if she is ok).. I'm not sure if there's much you can do at the moment.. seeing as how you need both sides for it to work out.. both sides need to be strong throughout this journey.. it may be the toughest "journey" you have together in your life, but you will appreciate it at the end.. next time you and your wife argue, just think about the time you had spent apart.. then the argument hopefully can be solved with both people in a better mood.. that's what we talked about together and hopefully will do.. we don't need another reason to separate and be apart (based on a small argument).. Edited by gogo, 14 July 2008 - 12:20 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2008-07-14 12:17:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	My wife get frustrated from waiting and want to divorce	I'm sorry to hear that.. we will NEVER do that, no matter how long we wait.. this process is actually a TEST of your love for each other.. this may count as a big hurdle in your life, but if you can't make it together through this, then the other little stuff doesn't matter.. I would rather move back and live with her than to lose her.. are you willing to move back to her country? We have been waiting over 15 months now and will continue to wait for each other no matter how long.. (well, up until my deadline anyway).. We will be together no matter what happens.. you can't let USCIS take control of your lives and tell you who you can/cannot live with.. Edited by gogo, 14 July 2008 - 11:43 AM.	gogo	Male	China	2008-07-14 11:40:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Love the waiting	the journey is just starting for you... you should learn to be patient and hope everything goes according to plan.. it should be around 6-8 months.. there are some people that have waited a long time and still heard nothing.. just try to find things to do.. you might try learning some new things or taking some classes.. that might make you not think of the long process.. Edited by gogo, 30 July 2008 - 03:42 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2008-07-30 15:40:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	the_dip_sticks FINALLY APPROVED!!!!	YAY, CONGRATULATIONS!!	gogo	Male	China	2008-06-23 12:13:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	OMG! We're one step closer to being reunited	YAY, sweety10!! Congratulations!!	gogo	Male	China	2008-03-06 10:01:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	California - April 2008 K3 Filers	more info on me.. http://www.visajourn...p;#entry1648963 http://www.visajourn...howtopic=117282 http://www.visajourn...howtopic=115793 but this topic is about you =) so I don't want to intrude too much.. Edited by gogo, 23 April 2008 - 09:57 AM.	gogo	Male	China	2008-04-23 09:56:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	California - April 2008 K3 Filers	hi Renatchi, lots of things have happened.. =( back in November, they transferred my case to the local office.. seems like they don't like people from China.. then I had a local office interview in February 2008.. I even brought my parents and the guy said "everything is ok , you will get approval notice within 10 days".. then nothing after that.. kept calling and faxing, but everyone gives different excuses.. they didn't even give me a RFE... now I mention it every time and they said "when they need more evidence, they will send you one".. in-between all this, lots of calls and faxes to senators, congressmen, and others.. and a little recent update from my signature below.. Edited by gogo, 23 April 2008 - 09:51 AM.	gogo	Male	China	2008-04-23 09:50:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	California - April 2008 K3 Filers	Thanks Urge to Race! I feel so left out.. all new people around me..	gogo	Male	China	2008-04-23 09:19:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	California - April 2008 K3 Filers	That's the spirit I filed in April too.. just not this year	gogo	Male	China	2008-04-23 09:06:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Writ of Mandamus sent in..	congrats again kelah and ramiro.. I see many people get the RFEs and get approved in just a few weeks.. good luck on that.. hi Ilya, how come you didn't go back to visit her? I tried to be apart for one year at the beginning, but it was tough.. now I just go back every 6 months.. I can probably get about a week or two vacation time, and then just lose another week to get a total of 3 weeks.. that's what I'm planning to do in November.. but if she gets approved soon, then I'll just wait for the "final" trip and go with her for the interview.. We both agreed that we would wait just a few months more..	gogo	Male	China	2008-09-09 09:22:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Writ of Mandamus sent in..	you are almost done with everything... I'm so jealous congrats on almost being through.. Edited by gogo, 05 September 2008 - 03:28 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2008-09-05 15:27:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Writ of Mandamus sent in..	haha, still going SusieK.. It's Day 40 out of 60 days now.. 60 days is the timeframe (from July 29) when they are supposed to have an answer.. if they don't, it's automatic YES.. but they can also extend for another 30 days though.. so 85-90% of cases are "YES", so I'm confident we will get approved soon.. It's just the waiting of 60 days that's killing me..	gogo	Male	China	2008-09-05 15:21:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Writ of Mandamus sent in..	but your info shows you got approved in 8 months? I-130 in your signature?	gogo	Male	China	2008-09-05 15:15:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Writ of Mandamus sent in..	Thanks sara.. I really hope that we get approved too.. We are just too sad now and miss each other a lot.. 17 months is a long time (from April 2007)	gogo	Male	China	2008-09-05 10:46:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Writ of Mandamus sent in..	Hi, have you tried writing to the FBI and White House? (faxing them..) My "package" contains about 2 pages in WORD of my whole situation from the start and all the updates so far.. the ONLINE CASE STATUSES from USCIS, and other replies I received from senators and other kinds of government people.. usually about 10-15 pages worth... with the recent letter from the FBI, I also include that in now too.. but I haven't faxed in a few months now because of the lawsuit and getting the lawyer.. but I do call them every week though.. I can't miss that, that's a ritual now.. =) Security Checks Info : http://usaimmigratio...tiveReview.html "At USCIS (Homeland Security Department) stage, currently, NCIC, IBIS and NIIS database checks are done, with the option, if warranted, to do additional database checks." =========================== Contact Info: (write the same "package" and fax them in to any and all people) http://www.duluth.li...ct/Federal.html http://www.visaserve.....tact List.pdf http://209.85.173.10...2...cd=55&gl=us ============================= Writ of Mandamus: (I prefer working with a team of lawyers, or just a lawyer with a good review), but you can try yourself http://www.visalaw.c...b3/2feb305.html http://www.ailf.org/..._mandamus.shtml http://www.ailf.org/...c_pa_081505.pdf Edited by gogo, 05 September 2008 - 09:51 AM.	gogo	Male	China	2008-09-05 09:46:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Writ of Mandamus sent in..	Thanks guys.. I really appreciate it It has been too long for us.. recently, they said the file is "in transit" to CSC.. doesn't really know what that means.. called many times and got different answers.. It takes them from November 2007 to June 2008 to transfer to CSC.. just give it to me and I can drive from Los Angeles to Laguna Niguel (1 hour away?).. I can even walk there in 7 months time.. sheesh.. kelah and ramiro, try to write a letter to the FBI (or White House).. and this is for anyone else who has problems.. As you know, I wrote plenty of letters and faxes bombarding anyone who works in the government (governor, senators, presidential nominees (yes, McCain, Obama, Hilary) and other state senators as well.. Also, White House, Ombudsman, Attorney generals, whoever had a name linked with the word "immigration").. anyway, the president fowarded my letter to Dept of Justice who forwarded to FBI.. they sent a letter (in the mail) back to my home saying I had no security checks (from Director of Records Management, Michael Cannon).. so USCIS is lying to me.. that is excellent proof to have and also written in the lawsuit (if you are going to do one).. what else can they say now? SOMEONE is lying (either FBI or USCIS, and I place my bets that it is not FBI's fault).. after 17 months waiting I lean heavily in favor of USCIS as the culprit..	gogo	Male	China	2008-09-05 09:09:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Writ of Mandamus sent in..	Hi guys, sorry I was just away.. today is day 38 / 60 of our writ of mandamus.. I see that the lawsuit is pretty successful (90%+) rating, it just takes about 4 months time on average to get something.. I also created an account here http://pacer.uspci.uscourts.gov/ to check my own case without the lawyer and will notify them when something comes up.. that is similar to the USCIS Case Status except it is for individual lawsuits.. How are you guys doing? Are you going to apply soon, Paris Heart? Congrats on the recent approval, babybebita.. YAY... Edited by gogo, 03 September 2008 - 11:56 AM.	gogo	Male	China	2008-09-03 11:55:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Writ of Mandamus sent in..	Thank you! I hope that you can get your approval soon too.. I hope you don't have the same problems like I do..	gogo	Male	China	2008-07-30 18:03:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Writ of Mandamus sent in..	Thanks guys for all the support!! I really hope that it will come to an end soon.. so I can actually go through what most of you are going through with the Consulate and NVC "problems"... I want to go and experience those too.. haha..	gogo	Male	China	2008-07-30 17:32:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Writ of Mandamus sent in..	I know.. it's pretty rare to see any petition over that long (we had a few longer on here too, and one person , the_dip_sticks, just got approved while waiting over 2 years)... I don't understand why they are lying and giving excuses everyday.. I even tried to get the FBI letter (which helped the lawsuit) stating I had no security checks.. no record of the two petitions (I-129F/I-130) I sent had gone through the FBI.. that was from the "Records Management Division Chief" too..	gogo	Male	China	2008-07-30 15:57:00