Forum	Title	Content	Member	Sex	Country	Date/Time
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	these stories make me so mad...	true.. but their parents should have thought about it.. otherwise, that is NOT being a good parent.. so if I find a story on an "illegal adult", then everything is ok? I'm just saying that they should be lucky to even be here and having a good education.. lots of people want to come here to get a good life (and education).. but some of us (like my wife) are doing things the LEGAL way.. and yet she still can't come.. does that not account for the same thing the "children" are going through?.. My wife will come here and go through college too.. but she won't have to worry about her "legal" status because of me.. because of what I (and her) had to go through to make her a PR (US Citizen)... the children are here in America and they will continue to worry about what their parents did before.. This is the "consequence" of their parents' actions.. On the other hand, I have waited my time and still nothing for me and my wife.. This may be our "consequence" for not coming here illegally, but I would want this more than having to look over my shoulder and also worry about getting a good job and education.. so tell me how that is wrong.. we both want the same thing (good education and job).. the "children" are here, my wife is NOT.. you even went through the whole visa process, so you know how it is.. Edited by gogo, 08 July 2008 - 01:07 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2008-07-08 13:02:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	these stories make me so mad...	Also, I couldn't get into UCLA because it was so expensive for my parents.. I went to the "Cal State" (pomona and LA) to help my parents save money... while these illegal "children" can get financial support from the UC system..	gogo	Male	China	2008-07-08 12:52:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	these stories make me so mad...	but why are they afraid if they can't find a job after college? Is it because they are afraid of their "skills" or "legal status"? If they were here legally, they wouldn't have to worry about finding a job.. with most people, the education (and work experience) you receive can land you a good job.. even the lowest paying jobs (McDonald's?) can work part-time and go to school part-time and not worry about the "legal" status.. They brought it upon themselves (or their parents caused it by coming here illegally) the "fear" of having no job and being caught.. yes, the children's meanings are good (wanting a good education).. but does it mean just because they are here, they want all the 'good' things that legal immigrants get? I just don't like the fact that they are complaining (this isn't the first article by far).. My Wife doesn't even complain as much.. she is just sad and she has a right to be... because we are apart.. you can find a lot more of these on http://www.idexer.com Edited by gogo, 08 July 2008 - 12:48 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2008-07-08 12:46:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	these stories make me so mad...	haha, but that wasn't my point.. but a good point nontheless.. they are in the US and they are complaining... complaining about what??... it's better than their own country (otherwise they wouldn't have come).. and they have stress... ####, I have stress for not getting approved for 15 months.. their "college" stress doesn't even compare to that.. and I have been through it too.. I have a Masters degree too.. Edited by gogo, 08 July 2008 - 12:26 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2008-07-08 12:24:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	these stories make me so mad...	"undocumented students have a degree of anxiety" (title of article).. well, no ####.. I do too.. and I do things the LEGAL way too, and see where it got me... 15 months of nothing... http://www.latimes.c...,0,115980.story Edited by gogo, 08 July 2008 - 12:20 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2008-07-08 12:19:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	What happens to CR-1 ( I-130) if K3 ( I-129F) is denied?	it won't look good for the CR1 interview.. but don't think about that just yet... it's not that bad.. there's plenty of ways to argue/fight for the petition.. but I never seen an example yet as where they deny the K3, and approve the CR1..	gogo	Male	China	2008-07-11 13:46:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	VSC Processing	http://ndnblog.org/node/2097 from this article... "The agency has begun to hire an additional 1,500 employees, of whom 723 are adjudicators. To date, 580 have been hired, including 274 adjudicators" 274 more people were hired.. to tell you the truth, there probably never was a backlog.. now they have an excuse to raise the fees and hire more lazy workers.. (if your calculations are correct)... with 274 more workers, it would probably only take a week or two to clear the backlogs... Also, if you are under security checks, just send a letter to the president (or FBI).. they will tell you that you don't have a security check and that it's all false.. most of their security checks are done within 48-72 hours anyway.. so at most a week (or a month)... but nothing like 6-8 months to get approved... that is ridiculous.. Edited by gogo, 11 July 2008 - 12:00 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2008-07-11 11:57:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Approved April/May/June Filers waiting for NVC	still waiting here.. thanks guys I still have a few things I can do (get a job at USCIS just to approve my case and others still waiting -- not too hard since their requirements are so low, lol), get a lawyer (do you guys think hiring a lawyer now would be a good idea?)	gogo	Male	China	2008-04-21 09:10:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Approved April/May/June Filers waiting for NVC	awww... you are even faster than me, phewl... now I'm jealous.. Edited by gogo, 14 April 2008 - 05:55 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2008-04-14 17:55:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Approved April/May/June Filers waiting for NVC	good luck edp333 and Urge to Race!! wow, you guys are still waiting so long too.. but at least you guys are approved ... YAY both of you are almost done with all this mess..	gogo	Male	China	2008-04-14 16:50:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Approved April/May/June Filers waiting for NVC	I added a new entry in my signature.. nothing but bad news for me I would give anything just be on this list above.. Edited by gogo, 01 April 2008 - 04:37 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2008-04-01 16:35:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Approved April/May/June Filers waiting for NVC	Congrats Puerco!! I hope you two get to be together soon.. On the other hand, I am way behind any of you now.. by far...	gogo	Male	China	2008-04-01 16:16:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Approved April/May/June Filers waiting for NVC	Congratulations everyone!! I hope that you get to be with your spouses soon!! The wait has been over for many of us..	gogo	Male	China	2008-03-26 09:28:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Approved April/May/June Filers waiting for NVC	Congrats everyone!! Everyone is moving so fast now.. I'm still here waiting for my approval.. I'll get there slowly.. wish me good luck on February 21... that is the "ultimatum" date for me.. even if I lose, I am prepared to go back to China.. ... you know what happened today guys?? The senator office called me and said they received "9" of my faxes just recently and that they received it and there is no need to send more.. haha.. I finally annoyed the heck out of them.. This was Senator Feinstein's office.. she didn't help much.. she just sent a letter stating "security checks" are required for our country and there is no way to hurry them... HOWEVER, Senator Boxer's officer will come me look into the situation more.. but I have a date of 2/21/08.. so no need to send more faxes... Edited by gogo, 30 January 2008 - 01:49 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2008-01-30 13:47:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Approved April/May/June Filers waiting for NVC	Thanks G&A! But it really makes no difference on here (I don't apply to the timeline anymore, but I still have one).. I'll be going in on December 26 to figure out what is wrong.. she did say I can add more evidence if I wanted to.. so I'll bring more emails, wedding pictures, phone records ( + Skype records ), pay stubs, and even my parents.. they can vouch for me that my wedding is real.. sheesh... they can do the interview right there if they want to.. Edited by gogo, 20 December 2007 - 01:25 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2007-12-20 13:25:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Approved April/May/June Filers waiting for NVC	Congratulations, My Honey!!! From what I see, it takes about 1-2 months after the NOA2 to get the final visa interview?? That is good.. Hopefully my time will come soon so I can join you too.. YAY!!!	gogo	Male	China	2007-12-20 12:53:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Approved April/May/June Filers waiting for NVC	YAY... CONGRATULATIONS!!! aww.. now I am so jealous of you guys...	gogo	Male	China	2007-12-14 11:12:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Approved April/May/June Filers waiting for NVC	still nothing yet, JohnWendy?? seems I am the same way with my security checks..	gogo	Male	China	2007-11-26 18:50:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Approved April/May/June Filers waiting for NVC	that's ok.. not your fault.. you didn't have to apologize (they should be the ones apologizing to all of us for being stupid)..	gogo	Male	China	2007-11-15 12:34:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Approved April/May/June Filers waiting for NVC	they said they are sending me a notice of action (didn't mean NOA2 though) within 30 days... their typical line.. Thanks for the two replies Urge to Race! Edited by gogo, 15 November 2007 - 12:16 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2007-11-15 12:16:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Approved April/May/June Filers waiting for NVC	thanks pkewl! Hopefully something comes through for me.. Congratulations everyone!! Hope that your journey past the CSC will be much smoother... I'm still trying to climb out (did I even start climbing??)	gogo	Male	China	2007-11-15 11:59:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Approved April/May/June Filers waiting for NVC	beats me... I thought they were doing security checks.. now she said "let me check your filing date -- did you file in April?".. I said "Yes".. she said "we are having computer glitch , like you heard before.. we will be able to process your case late this year , or early next year"... she said we will send you a notice of action... I already have ONE!!! what the goddamn hell is going on?? SHE EVEN VERIFIED I SENT MY I-130 IN APRIL!! that is so ridiculous.. so it's been over 180 days already... she told me to wait 30 days for the Notice of Action (I asked her if it was RFE, she said "no") to be sent to my address (she verified that too)... Edited by gogo, 15 November 2007 - 11:38 AM.	gogo	Male	China	2007-11-15 11:36:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Approved April/May/June Filers waiting for NVC	I posted on this topic before... booooooo... haha.. just kidding.. but I did get some bad news today.. I just called in and they said my application is not looked at yet.. no notice received... she said that they have a computer glitch recently and will be processing my application "late this year, early next year"... what the hell?? Why can't I get approved like everyone else?? Maybe the ones who are stuck with me are going to be "looked at" late this year... this is so ridiculous..	gogo	Male	China	2007-11-15 11:28:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Approved April/May/June Filers waiting for NVC	Too fast for us.. let us catch up to you first.. I hear that it takes 5-6 weeks for "normal" delivery now?? There seems to be a backlog there too.. Edited by gogo, 29 October 2007 - 09:30 AM.	gogo	Male	China	2007-10-29 09:29:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Another excuse by USCIS..	haha, thanks guys.. yes, probably you are right in that they keep a record of all the times that you call.. they said I have called 12 times from the time of April 2007 (when I filed) to December 2007.. and probably a lot more this year too.. another topic shows people getting approved after 365 days (2 of them recently), so I should probably just wait some more..	gogo	Male	China	2008-07-15 15:17:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Another excuse by USCIS..	but what am i supposed to do then? just sit here and wait quietly??.. I know that's hard to do.. especially after 15 months..	gogo	Male	China	2008-07-15 10:31:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Another excuse by USCIS..	that's a bit far from Guangzhou.. yeah, we are only about one hour away (bus ride) from Guangzhou, so that's good when the time comes..	gogo	Male	China	2008-07-14 15:26:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Another excuse by USCIS..	she is from Taishan, Guangdong I hear that place is not liked (like Fujian)..	gogo	Male	China	2008-07-14 14:08:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Another excuse by USCIS..	well, no, not her last name.. but I'm guessing they are doing so-called "security checks" on her.. it's a lot easier to find a person's background here than over there..	gogo	Male	China	2008-07-14 13:05:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Another excuse by USCIS..	haha, and that's why we are having problems with USCIS...	gogo	Male	China	2008-07-14 12:21:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Another excuse by USCIS..	haha, that's true.. her last name is very common.. "CHEN".. and she even said herself that there were 6 students in her class (when she was younger) that had similar / same names as her.. so doing a "security database check" on names there would take forever.. QUOTE (rebeccajo @ Jul 13 2008, 12:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Catt @ Jul 13 2008, 12:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (rebeccajo @ Jul 13 2008, 06:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Catt @ Jul 12 2008, 05:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (rebeccajo @ Jul 12 2008, 02:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It's not uncommon for the female half to need to produce former marriage certificates as well as divorce decrees. It's done to 'match up' the names listed on the G325a and any other biographical forms. If this really is commonly asked, then it is strange that the DOS website itself doesn't even mention them as required, it only says termination of prior marriage documentation. And it isn't even mentioned on the I-130 instructions by CIS. If the reason would really be comparing the names listed to those on the bio information, then that reason is questionnable. The names are also on the divorce (or other termination) papers themselves. Also, why would only women be asked for them and not men? But if the documents are really required by CIS or NVC/Consulate, Gogo, then I would try and obtain them best I can. You think there is a way for your wife to get this document quickly? However, in general, I doubt that this really is or will be asked as a rule. I am real sorry about the way they are treating you and your wife, Gogo. Gogo's petition isn't even to DOS yet. So I'm not certain why you are looking there. But anecdotally it is quite common especially at the interview stage (which is under DOS juris) for marriage certificates to be requested. But in case you were wondering why it might be asked for now, look to the instructions for form I-129F, #6 Section C and form I-130, Page 3 "What if your name has changed?". As already mentioned in my previous post, it isn't mentioned in the I-130 instructions from CIS either and that is definitely where Gogo is at right now. Furthermore, names don't change per definition due to marriage. Unlike in the US, here it is the big exception in fact. There are plenty of other countries where the same applies. So I fail to see the relevance of your reference to that. And again, why would it only be asked for women and not for men? I wonder on what basis you assume that this would be common practice (since other people, like rcars, seem to state the exact opposite). The basis is anecdotal evidence through the years. Kathryn mentions above the 'whole picture' and things we cannot see. I presume when you post it is a 'big exception' here you are alluding to China (you don't indicate a country of origin in your profile). I presume you mean that women don't change their name? One thing I have never mentioned to gogo is all the Communist Party trouble that goes on with Chinese beneficiaries. Who knows what is delaying his case. If his wife was a former member (or is now) this could be causing delays. I should like to add here that I'm fully aware membership in the Communist Party isn't some sort of 'black label' - I'm aware many people in China are forced to join. So I'm making no judgment calls on gogo's wife. What I am saying is there may be some effort on the part of USCIS to acertain exactly who gogo's wife is. Her name could be similar to someone very notable. It's all just a guess.	gogo	Male	China	2008-07-14 09:36:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Another excuse by USCIS..	Thanks rebecca, lots of interesting news from you!! actually, the thing is she never changed her name... so it has always been the same throughout her life.. it's even the same as to her birth certificate.. so I don't know.. I'll look up more information on this.. yeah, I didn't know about the "women" side needing the former marriage ceritificates.. QUOTE (rebeccajo @ Jul 12 2008, 11:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Catt @ Jul 12 2008, 05:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (rebeccajo @ Jul 12 2008, 02:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It's not uncommon for the female half to need to produce former marriage certificates as well as divorce decrees. It's done to 'match up' the names listed on the G325a and any other biographical forms. If this really is commonly asked, then it is strange that the DOS website itself doesn't even mention them as required, it only says termination of prior marriage documentation. And it isn't even mentioned on the I-130 instructions by CIS. If the reason would really be comparing the names listed to those on the bio information, then that reason is questionnable. The names are also on the divorce (or other termination) papers themselves. Also, why would only women be asked for them and not men? But if the documents are really required by CIS or NVC/Consulate, Gogo, then I would try and obtain them best I can. You think there is a way for your wife to get this document quickly? However, in general, I doubt that this really is or will be asked as a rule. I am real sorry about the way they are treating you and your wife, Gogo. Gogo's petition isn't even to DOS yet. So I'm not certain why you are looking there. But anecdotally it is quite common especially at the interview stage (which is under DOS juris) for marriage certificates to be requested. But in case you were wondering why it might be asked for now, look to the instructions for form I-129F, #6 Section C and form I-130, Page 3 "What if your name has changed?".	gogo	Male	China	2008-07-14 09:33:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Another excuse by USCIS..	Hi 4theloveofhenry, thank you very much! seems like I'm just frustrated with the process.. It would just be nice to hear why they are holding up my case.. I hope to hear some good news from the lawyer (the lawsuit is my last fight).. and that's forcing them in action too.. but I did get something a few days ago from USCIS based on a service request.. something new that's not "additional processing" or "security checks"... maybe this is a good sign?? but yet the local office said they recently received my case in May 2008.. so still different stories from each place.. =============== On 07/07/2008 you, or the designated representative shown below, contacted us about your case. Some of the key information given to us at that time was the following: The status of this service request is: This case is in process and was sent to the USCIS local office in Los Angeles in November, 2007 for field review and investigation. The case file is currently in transit to this location, California Service Center. You will be notified by mail when a decision has been made or if additional evidence would be needed. =============== QUOTE (4theloveofhenry @ Jul 12 2008, 09:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I have been following your story and have to say that I am soooo sooo sorry you and your wife are going through this. No family should forcefully seperated in this way and it is so unfair the way you are being treated. You have every right to be angry! However as someone posted before me, dont let yourself get so worked up and upset. You have every right to be upset but you also have every right to get your case approved and you do not want to do or say anything to the powers that be that will put that in detriment. Someontimes when we get very angry and upset we can lose all rational thought and going purely on emotion with someone that holds this much power over your life can be a dangerous thing. Take some time out and do somthing nice for yourself, like going to get a massage or having dinner out with a good friend or family memeber. Somone you can vent to that will be understanding. Give yourself a couple of days away from this situation letting some of these wounds heal. I know it is easier said than done but the best thing you can give yourself and this situation is a clear head. You cannot go into battle with a foggy mind. And that is what this is, a battle of wits and stamina. You want to be the one to outwit and outlast the USCIS and the only way to do that is to put your emotions on the back burner and have a clear and sharp picture of things. Take care and I cannot wait to hear the good news of your approval Edited by gogo, 14 July 2008 - 09:32 AM.	gogo	Male	China	2008-07-14 09:30:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Another excuse by USCIS..	Hi Catt, actually my wife had it at the very start.. we just didn't send it in because we thought we didn't have to.. we actually discussed it and I saw on Visajourney that many people were just sending in their divorce certificates only... I just don't like it that they aren't send me a RFE to correct it (if it needs to be corrected).. I'm not sure why they are holding my case, and for what reason.. Lucky I even have the letter from the FBI stating I'm not under security checks (originally they transferred my case to the local office in November 2007, so I sent a letter to president, and received a reply from FBI during March 2008 stating I had no security checks).. and I know these "security checks" don't last for 4 months.. even the FBI states they do most checks within 48-72 hours.. QUOTE (Catt @ Jul 12 2008, 04:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (rebeccajo @ Jul 12 2008, 02:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It's not uncommon for the female half to need to produce former marriage certificates as well as divorce decrees. It's done to 'match up' the names listed on the G325a and any other biographical forms. If this really is commonly asked, then it is strange that the DOS website itself doesn't even mention them as required, it only says termination of prior marriage documentation. And it isn't even mentioned on the I-130 instructions by CIS. If the reason would really be comparing the names listed to those on the bio information, then that reason is questionnable. The names are also on the divorce (or other termination) papers themselves. Also, why would only women be asked for them and not men? But if the documents are really required by CIS or NVC/Consulate, Gogo, then I would try and obtain them best I can. You think there is a way for your wife to get this document quickly? However, in general, I doubt that this really is or will be asked as a rule. I am real sorry about the way they are treating you and your wife, Gogo.	gogo	Male	China	2008-07-14 09:27:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Another excuse by USCIS..	haha, lots of replies.. thanks Rajaa_Reda for your concern.. yes, I really hope to get the approval soon.. the lawyers are barely sending in the complaint now, so I would have to wait another two months for an ANSWER (not even decision) by USCIS.. they are probably going to use more of their rules to protect themselves.. at least I have proof that I'm not under security checks as of March 2008.. QUOTE (Rajaa_Reda @ Jul 11 2008, 05:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Wait..... (gulp) so I need to get the marriage certificates of my previous marriage? I sent in the divorce decree but not the marriage certificate???? my husband (the beneficary) hasn't any previous marriages I am the petitioner is that still necessary? GoGo I am sooooooo sorry for you. I hope this all changes soon for the better for you.	gogo	Male	China	2008-07-14 09:24:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Another excuse by USCIS..	ohhhhh... that's very sad...	gogo	Male	China	2008-07-11 16:53:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Another excuse by USCIS..	yes, I thought so too.. you just need the "former marriage" certificates at the interview portion.. not when you originally send the I-130 in... I had been told this morning by my wife.. she said a neighbor who previously works at the consulate said so.. she has been helping people (off the side) for over 30 years doing the DS-230s and everything after approval.. she said she told the people who asked for help to also send in the "former marriage" certificate.. I thought that you only needed to prove a "termination" (which is a "divorce" certificate).. from what I see everyday on Visajourney, that's the way it is.. but yeah, I never received any RFEs before.. just to show up for that local office interview back in February.. Edited by gogo, 11 July 2008 - 03:23 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2008-07-11 15:22:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Another excuse by USCIS..	haha, hope you get approved soon.. I even just want to get a RFE now.. that means at least they are taking the time to look at my case.. but of course I would like the approval.. that would be much better..	gogo	Male	China	2008-07-11 13:23:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Another excuse by USCIS..	Todd_Leah, yes, I got the congresswoman to help out, but she just gave me a letter stating they are doing "background checks" and that they won't know how long it will take.. each case is different, blah, blah, blah.. a whole big letter on that and the "safety of America" and why they need to do background checks.. and how "one case's delay is not as important as whole country's safety"... this letter was giving around December or so (I think, before my local office interview and letter from FBI).. maybe I should keep sending / faxing more everyday now (like I did before).. When I sent the letter to the governor (yes, Arnold) and senators, they just said that this is a "federal" issue, and that they will forward my letter to my congressman (and other congress people said the same thing).. something about "it's a courtesy to allow each district's congress person to represent their own"... Edited by gogo, 11 July 2008 - 01:05 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2008-07-11 13:04:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures	Another excuse by USCIS..	LaL, well, I got this from her neighbor, who works for the China Consulate/Embassy before ( but now she has helped others file visa since that time)... according to her, I can't send her certificate in now.. they won't be able to match it together with her petitions.. if there was a problem from the start, they will just push it aside until later.. but I'm not sure on this.. since they didn't ask for a RFE, can I still send it in? She actually had the "former" ceritificate right from the start when I filed it.. but we discussed it and I saw that people were just sending in their divorce certificates only, and it seemed to work.. so we didn't send that in along with the I-130 or the I-129F... have people sent in stuff just because it was missing from the start? However, I should get a RFE at least to add to my case, but I never did.. that is wrong on their part, but I can't prove that... so at least I have the letter from the FBI saying I had no security/background checks done on my case.. so pretty much it is good for the lawsuit.. the court will hopefully be on my side with all my infopasses/calls.. Edited by gogo, 11 July 2008 - 01:00 PM.	gogo	Male	China	2008-07-11 12:55:00