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K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresK-1 or F-1
K-1s don't usually get left pending for years and years. Either they are left pending for a very long time and people withdraw them and move on to another visa route (like CR-1) or they get their congressmen on them and something ends up happening -or they at least find out *what* is going on...and then it's not really left "pending" (as in nothing is going on at the moment) but "processing" (as in something is happening like AP, but it's still in the process. So your point is a bit moot, IMO.

And yeah, I see what you're trying to do. Have him come on the F-1 so that he can get to the US to study a couple months before he'd arrive there on the normal K-1.

That still doesn't answer my question though. Even if the CO approves the F-1 (which I doubt, again), how are you going to continue with the K-1 at the same time. Ie. how is your fiancee going to go back to Kiev in the middle of the semester for their interview?

And another question: which is more important to the two of you: that you get married and be together as soon as possible or that he/she starts school in the Fall?

And I disagree about another one of your points. You are saying that you will use the fact that she/he came on a B-1 visa a couple months ago and didn't marry you then (even though they could have) and that will be evidence as to why he/she wont marry you on the F-1 visa. I don't think that's very good evidence. As you yourself have clearly stated, people change their minds and clearly get fed up with the processing times of this visa....
Marina-DelFemaleBrazil2009-07-01 19:27:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresK-1 or F-1
QUOTE (conny @ Jul 1 2009, 08:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
- Lack of immigration intent was shown by multiple visits on various visas and existing multi-year tourist visa which was actually used after NOA1 with on-time come back to the homecountry
- Enrollment into major university with relatively short study cycle (way less than 5 years) and urgent need to start a study since the enrollment is conditional on certain classes to be taken in the Fall 2009
- Very long time since K1 was pending - couldn't his intent change since then? I heard 90 days is enough for OK on chnaged intent in USCIS books
- Need to come back to homecountry for finishing K1 process anyway

Not good enough reasons? IMO, NO, NO AND NO. Nothing against you, but if I were the CO, I would deny you.


And your K-1 has not been pending a VERY LONG TIME. Please take a look at some other members timelines and then you can see a very long time! Your NOA2 should be any day now and then as Gary tells us so often you'll be in and out of Kiev in a matter of 3 months (on average).

I think we might as well give up everyone. I seems like she's not going to change her mind so we might as well let her go and waste her money and possibly spend lots and lots of time without her fiancee (either now before the K-1 or after he has to go back to Ukraine).

Edited by Marina-Del, 01 July 2009 - 06:24 PM.

Marina-DelFemaleBrazil2009-07-01 18:22:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresK-1 or F-1
QUOTE (conny @ Jul 1 2009, 08:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Marina-Del @ Jul 1 2009, 05:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Or, you can TRY for the F-1 (maybe get denied, maybe not, but remember NEVER LIE!) and you'll see your fiance a couple months later, then they'll have to go home in a year or so, then you'll have to apply for the K-1 or CR-1 visa ALL OVER AGAIN!


This is where I think we disagree. Why all over again? He would need to come back whenever the Kiev consulate receives a packet and he schedules an interview there, yes, but why all over again? it's a continuation of the same K1 process and I don't see why they would deny us to continue it if he receives F1 (or gets a denial for that matter)...


Okay, you answered one of my questions while I was typing an answer to your first response.

And I don't see how that is possible? How does your fiancee expect to pick up and leave the US in the middle of his/her school semester??

If you can do that, AND convince the CO that there is no intent to immigrate (which I think we all agree is a LOOOOOOOOOOOONG shot) then go ahead and use lots of extra money so that you can spend a month or two together.
Marina-DelFemaleBrazil2009-07-01 18:18:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresK-1 or F-1
QUOTE (conny @ Jul 1 2009, 07:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Right, let's just call the ones who disagree the thread highjackers and go on with your "be on the safe side" comments. Could anyone suggesting that please comment on the 100,000 question that can potentially negate OP's nice summary altogether? WHAT HARM CAN POSSIBLY DENIAL OF F1 DO TO K1 APPLICATION???

I also think OP is missing one point here based on this last post. We have almost identical situations, so I kinda see it in different light than everyone responding here. Not sure what you meant by "if you are coming to study on an F-1 and have NOT yet filed for the K-1", I presume you meant applying for visa after NOA2 - but you definitely missed the most obvious scenario - apply for F1 BEFORE NOA2 is received, get it if lucky convincing consul of non-immigrant intentions for the period of study (if let's say it's MBA it could as little as 18 months) and if not, just continue to wait for K1 without suffering any consequences.


You're wrong. It doesn't work like that. It doesn't matter when you apply for the F-1 Visa (before NOA2, before intereview, whatever) it makes no difference at all! The fact remains that you have to convince the consular that you aren't going to use that visa to get married.... If you aren't going to use that visa to get married, then you have to ABANDON THE K-1 VISA! K-1 visas are not visas that never expire, they expire.

If you happen to convince the consular officer that you aren't using the F-1 to get married: If you apply for the F-1 visa now, I assume your fiance will get it for the Fall semester. And study how long? During that fall semester sometime he/she will have their interview in Kiev....then what? How are they going to go to the interview? They can postpone the interview for a certain amount of time (more or less 90 days it seems). So they will probably have to have the interview around November at latest. But November is right in the middle of the semester!? How is your fiancee going to take off from school in the US to go to Kiev and do the interview!?!? If they don't go to the interview then the K-1 is abandoned and you have to START ALL THE WAY OVER AGAIN, AFTER YOUR FIANCE GOES BACK TO KIEV AFTER HIS/HER F-1 VISA.

You ask why attempting to apply for a F-1 can jeopardize the K-1. I guess it can't really...except your wasting your own money for nothing. AND, if I was the consular officer it would look like to me that you and your fiance are trying to bypass the system and that raises huge red flag! So if I was the consular I might put your case on hold to overlook it and make sure I"m not missing anything else. Maybe the consular would do this (and if so, it would put you back even more time!) or maybe they wouldn't (in which case, good for you).

I honestly think that there is something you're not understand here, but I'm not sure what it is. I have a feeling that you don't understand exactly how the K-1 works.

I'm not trying to attack you. All of us on VJ are here to help and we really want to help you if we can. Either with our advice or our opinions based on what we are read, experienced, and seen here on VJ and in real life.

So please, outline for us step by step what you and your fiance plan on doing. How long would they have the F-1 visa for? How could you possibly persue both visas? What would be the benefit of abandoning the K-1 visa to go with the F-1 visa instead (except for 2-3 months of being together sooner), but most likely longer than that being apart later?

And by ""Not sure what you meant by "if you are coming to study on an F-1 and have NOT yet filed for the K-1","" The OP means that if you HAD NOT applied for the K-1 visa yet then the consular officers when you apply for the F-1 would not know that you tend to immigrate to the US. So, you could apply for the F-1, marry in the US while here on that, then file AOS right away (of course if you did in fact intend to marry on the F-1 and you didn't tell them or lied about that, that is visa fraud as well....but at least they would be less likely to catch you). But, since you have applied for the K-1 already, then they wouldn't believe you for a second.
Marina-DelFemaleBrazil2009-07-01 18:14:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresK-1 or F-1
QUOTE (conny @ Jul 1 2009, 01:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Marina-Del, the truth is that he intends to marry me only if my K1 petition is approved and only AFTER coming back to Ukraine and getting a new immigrant visa (if issued). See the difference? That's not the same as getting to US on F1 and getting married here.
As I already mentioned, he got admitted to a university for Fall 09 semester. Our K1 has been pending in the initial phase for 6+ months, who knows how long it's going to be pending, hence F1 application - he just wants to come here and study, otherwise he'd need to get enrolled for another semester while doing nothing in Ukraine, it's just a horrifying thought...


I understand your point, I truly do, I but don't think you are listening to what any of the other posters are saying and are only choosing to think that the plan you have made up for yourself is the best (maybe it is, maybe it's not). None of us here are professionals but a lot of us have been around a long time (myself since 2006 for example and others a LOT longer) so we've read a lot of posts and seen a lot of stuff happen. We are only giving you our advice, which you can take our not.

And our advice seems to be that, sure, you can try your plan. But the majority doesn't think that it will work. Like Heather/Nick (I never know which one is posting!!) said, we all feel like we're stuck in the bottom of the barrel at some point. There are LOTS of K-1 visas on this site that are waiting for NOA2 at 6+ months now (if you haven't found the thread for that, it's in the K-1 processing times forum). If you've been waiting over 6 months than you're almost there!!! In my opinion, it would be very silly to risk doing the F-1 visa. Personally, I think it will be denied...and even if it's not, why would you want to do that? If you wait probably 2-3 more months than you'd have to wait for the F-1 visa your fiancee could be in the US, MARRIED TO YOU, and study! I'm sure the University would allow him to begin Spring semester, especially if you explain to them why you need to wait. Or, you can TRY for the F-1 (maybe get denied, maybe not, but remember NEVER LIE!) and you'll see your fiance a couple months later, then they'll have to go home in a year or so, then you'll have to apply for the K-1 or CR-1 visa ALL OVER AGAIN! I just really don't understand why someone would want to do that? And the F-1 is not even guaranteed. If you want to go ahead and try, that's up to you.

Marina-DelFemaleBrazil2009-07-01 17:35:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresK-1 or F-1
Conny: As I think you have seen here, the plan you and your fiancee have in place is not only a plan that will almost certainly back-fire in the end, but also a plan that could end up with you being charged for visa fraud and getting either prison time or a large fine.

The fact is: They will not issue an F-1 visa to your fiance if he tells the truth. If he says that he intends to marry you (which is what he wrote down on the K-1 petition, letter of intent ring any bells?) then they will deny the F-1. I'm confused as to how you are misunderstanding this?

If you've already applied for a K-1 (which you can use to study, AFTER your marry your fiance int he US), why would you apply for an F-1 too??

Edited by Marina-Del, 01 July 2009 - 08:40 AM.

Marina-DelFemaleBrazil2009-07-01 08:39:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresNot living together a problem?
QUOTE (rebeccajo @ Jul 2 2009, 11:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I wasn't planning on having a discussion about the frequency of coitus, etc.

All I'm saying is that questions have been asked, even if inappropriate.


Oh, I don't particularly want to get in a discussion about the frequency of it either, but now I'm genuinely curious of how the USCIS would react if a genuinely married couple answered that they didn't have sex during an AOS interview...anyway.... Off-Topic2.gif
Marina-DelFemaleBrazil2009-07-02 21:57:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresNot living together a problem?
QUOTE (rebeccajo @ Jul 2 2009, 11:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Marina-Del @ Jul 2 2009, 09:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Inna @ Jul 2 2009, 10:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nuh... You either have to live with her and her roomate or get a place of your own while she is going to school or wait till spring for you to arrive in the U.S. Either way, if you are only starting your K1 process soon, it will take at least 3-4 months up to 9 months (rarely) to process. In USCIS perspective, you must be living together and having sex smile.gif


You CLEARLY did not read the other posts on this thread because a lot of your post is just flat out WRONG!. Seriously....learn to read.

And USCIS doesn't ask about your sex life. If you and your husband have never had sex with each other, USCIS isn't going to care, as long a both you and your husband are okay with that. If one of you isn't then I think that might be grounds for an annulment, but otherwise, USCIS doesn't give a sh!t about your sex life.


Questions about the "love life" of the couple have been known to occur both at the consular and stateside levels of the process.


Okay, fair enough. But what were the questions and what answers could a couple give that would hurt their chances of getting the approval? For example, if the CO asked, how many times a month do you have sex? And the couple says "1, but that's fine with us" are they going to get denied because they "don't have sex enough"? Or even if they say that have sex about once every couple months, does that mean you get denied? Every bodies different. Some people like sex everyday ( devil.gif), some people like sex once every couple weeks. But that doesn't mean that couple is unhappy. The above poster that I replied to said that you *must* be living together and having sex and I just don't think is true. I do not think there is a requirement that the couple must have sex a certain number of times a month to make their marriage valid. Also, I don't think that USCIS could deny an AOS petition for the simple fact that a couple is not having sex (even if they are not having sex at all!). If the couple is living together, shares bank accounts, shares bills, even sleeps in the same bed every night and does everything else like a married couple and just don't have sex does that mean they aren't married? That's not how I want to be married, but I'm sure there are couples out there like that. Do they not qualify for AOS?
Marina-DelFemaleBrazil2009-07-02 21:52:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresNot living together a problem?
QUOTE (Inna @ Jul 2 2009, 10:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nuh... You either have to live with her and her roomate or get a place of your own while she is going to school or wait till spring for you to arrive in the U.S. Either way, if you are only starting your K1 process soon, it will take at least 3-4 months up to 9 months (rarely) to process. In USCIS perspective, you must be living together and having sex smile.gif


You CLEARLY did not read the other posts on this thread because a lot of your post is just flat out WRONG!. Seriously....learn to read.

And USCIS doesn't ask about your sex life. If you and your husband have never had sex with each other, USCIS isn't going to care, as long a both you and your husband are okay with that. If one of you isn't then I think that might be grounds for an annulment, but otherwise, USCIS doesn't give a sh!t about your sex life.
Marina-DelFemaleBrazil2009-07-02 20:09:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresNot living together a problem?
Also as was briefly mentioned, but I fear overlooked and am therefore mentioning again!, you CANNOT legally work in the US until you go through AOS successfully and get your EAD. So, even if you got to the US before Dec 2010, you could not LEGALLY work at your parents company until after successfully AOS.

That being said, I do agree that you could attempt the AOS without living together. As long as you had other sufficient proof of marriage (perhaps even proof that the two of you are visiting each other on the weekends, joint bank accounts, joint bills, owned cars, and a really convincing and provable plan of the two of you living together once she graduates.
Marina-DelFemaleBrazil2009-07-02 20:02:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresK1 Expedite Request Approved
Hey Lancer, can you give us more details? I'm not even applying for a K-1 but if you give us more details than maybe it will help someone else later who searches and finds this topic.
Marina-DelFemaleBrazil2009-07-02 20:35:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresK1 Expedite Request Approved
cdneh: Thanks for the info! Good to know!

I'd just like to go ahead and state here for all that are reading this and will read this in the future though, that they almost NEVER grant these expedites. Just FYI.
Marina-DelFemaleBrazil2009-07-02 20:17:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresK1 Expedite Request Approved
Yeah, expedites are only available to those in the military, if I'm understanding correctly.

That option has been there as long as I have been around here (since 2005), it's nothing new. But unless you qualify (and unless you are an ACTIVE duty military person, then you don't), then you can't use the option.
Marina-DelFemaleBrazil2009-07-02 20:07:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresLittle Situation about age.
Let me clarify something......

Couldn't the OP apply now for the I-129F (since they wont care at NOA2 stage if they have met 1 time or 2000) and just make sure he gets another visit in before the interview?

That way they don't have to wait? I'm not saying waiting is not a good idea though, I think it's a GREAT idea...just wondering.
Marina-DelFemaleBrazil2009-07-06 15:56:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresLittle Situation about age.
I agree with above. In case you don't understand, the reason that the close family relationship is a potential problem is because it looks like visa fraud. For example (I'm not saying this is what you are doing! I'm just trying to enlighten you on why it might be an issue), your step mom talks to her *sister and finds out that her sister's daughter really wants to come to the US, you and your step mom talk about it and her sisters and her sisters daughter is willing to pay you X amount of money for helping her come over on a fiancee visa, get marriage and put on a show for USCIS. This is only the beginning usually. Then once you and the girl have been married for a while, she lifts her conditions, becomes a citizen and then brings over her mom...and your step mom and her sister, and her sisters daughter (and whoever else they choose to petition for) are all in the US together and happy now. You've gotten a bit of money in your pocket, or severely scammed and are heart broken. This is obviously a pretty far out example, but you get the point!

*I have no idea if it's your step moms sister, I was just using that as an example...and again, I am *not* saying you are doing this! Just showing you why it is extra important for you and your lady to prove a real, ongoing relationship.

If I understand, Laos is not a particularly easy consulate to go through. And while the age and family relationship are not reasons per se that you can be denied, they are definitely reasons that could affect your case. You must remember that you have to convince the CO that your relationship is genuine and based on only 1 visit (on her 18th birthday making her now legal) and the family relationship, if I was the CO I might have some questions about that.

It might be okay to go ahead and file the I-129F, but you really really should get more than one visit in before interview.

Edited by Marina-Del, 06 July 2009 - 12:03 PM.

Marina-DelFemaleBrazil2009-07-06 12:02:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresK-1 visa applied for-- now Islamically married
QUOTE (JimVaPhuong @ Jul 2 2009, 10:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Gary and Alla @ Jul 2 2009, 05:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>


Question...if they were to separate, would they need a divorce?


Would the Egyptian government allow him to marry someone else without first divorcing your daughter under Islamic law?


Golden questions there. Now where the OP to come back and give the answers?

And remember: NEVER LIE TO THE CO!
Marina-DelFemaleBrazil2009-07-02 10:07:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresProof of ongoing relationship when you are living in the same country?
I don't think any of us (excluding the last poster who is clearly just messing with you) said that for sure 100% they would be fine. Gary or I didn't say that at all.

We simply said that since they live together they should have plenty of evidence to show that they are in a genuine relationship. Do you see the difference there???
Marina-DelFemaleBrazil2009-07-01 17:38:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresProof of ongoing relationship when you are living in the same country?
I agree with Gary, you live with him, therefore you have the BEST EVIDENCE POSSIBLE.

I assume that somewhere on your passport you have evidence that you went to Indonesia and then you'll have boarding passes from when you arrived and boarding passes from when you left (if you are leaving before the interview). That's all you'll need really. Letters from the family saying that you are there. How have you been getting money while you are there? Have you been using your credit cards or ATM card?? Take the receipts from the ATM machines (which have the name of the town your fiance lives in) and show those as evidence, show credit card statements showing you bought stuff in that town. Are you doing anything while you are there? Going to the gym, staying in any hotels (at all---if you do, get them to put both of your names on receipts), photos, ect.

If you are living there they will not require letters and emails from that time. Just prove that you were there (in that town) during that amount of time.
Marina-DelFemaleBrazil2009-07-01 08:28:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresComing up on our NOA2...
QUOTE (Todd&Dani @ Jun 18 2009, 12:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
1. If she is unable to secure employment how will this affect our application?
2. Would it still help if we got a co-sponser even if she is unemployed?
3. Is it possible if the petitioner has funds in savings sufficient to cover us through the AOS period will this help?
4. Will it help that her tax years for 2004 thru 2007 are very good stable income years?
5. My father is a US citizen residing in the US, can he co-sponser my fiancee?

We would both appreciate feedback on these thoughts and ideas. Thanks for any and all help!

Todd & Dani


1. It wont affect your application as long as you can find a co-sponsor. If you cannot find a co-sponsor then it will dead-end your application
2. It doesn't matter if she is employed or unemployed, if she doesn't meet the guidelines then you have to have a co-sponsor
3. No. They will look at her savings, but you cannot use savings alone as proof that she can cover everything. You can also use assets (like if she owns a house) in the same way that you can use your savings. They will look at your savings and assets and that will make them more happy, but you still have to have a co-sponsor if you don't meet the guidelines
4. Yes, but if she doesn't currently meet the guidelines you still have to have a co-sponsor
5. Any US citizen can co-sponsor.

Marina-DelFemaleBrazil2009-06-18 11:10:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresCould not stay in US on K-1 (no jobs!)
Correct....the K-1 is a one entry visa and you used that entry. It doesn't matter whether you got married or not. As stated as long as you left before his 90 days was up (and it sounds like you did), you're done until you are ready to apply for DCF. Also as stated, you may be asked why you didn't proceed with the wedding in the states and immigrate then at the DCF interview...in which case you just say exactly what you typed here. There was a freeze for teachers, I'm a teacher, no job, no money, no life, ect. That is a perfectly reasonable answer!

Good luck!
Marina-DelFemaleBrazil2009-08-04 12:59:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresShould I laugh or cry?
QUOTE (itzallgood @ Aug 29 2009, 12:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (jbiel590 @ Aug 28 2009, 06:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The cards I sent reference recent meetings we had or trips we took, so they supported other evidence we had, that's why I included them. And yes, I did send copies and my fiancee will have the originals of everything for the interview.

I double and triple checked it, or so I thought. How embarrassing....but thanks to everyone for their comforting words!

I have to say, if the person reviewing it pores over these cards looking for XXX material, he/she will be sorely disappointed!! We didn't send THOSE cards. devil.gif devil.gif



It really doesn't matter. The reviewers of your packet have seen it all and would likely just yawn...


laughing.gif I bet that really is true though, and they have seen it all!!! You should be happy you didn't send in real XXX photos by accident. I bet there have been people who really have sent in XXX photos to prove a relationship....
Marina-DelFemaleBrazil2009-08-29 17:17:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresNative Arabic Language used on K1 Visa Forms
Looks like you've already gotten the answer to your question!

However, I wanted to point you in the direction of the MENA forum in the Regional Forums second where there are lots of people who will have a process much more similar to yours than everyone up here in the K-1 forum. This is not to say that the K-1 forum cannot answer you questions, but if you haven't found the MENA forum yet, it's a good resource for you! Good luck!
Marina-DelFemaleBrazil2009-09-01 11:25:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresFiancee (USC) has very strict parents.
I'm a bit with the OP on the issue of "asking the father for the daughters hand", this is quite old-fashioned. While I think asking her father for permission to marry her is nice and romantic, I don't think it's a requirement in this case really.

What I do think is a requirement is that the daughter talk to her parents and let them know what's going on. As someone else stated, maybe her dad doesn't want her to get married yet because he doesn't think she is mature enough. And the way I see it, not telling them is just proving that she's not mature enough!! And if you, the fiance, aren't insisting that she tell her parents, then you're not mature enough either!

Her parents need to be told because they WILL find out -either through the mail or when you show up in the US ready to marry their daughter. And if you are worried about them blackmailing her into not doing it (cutting her off or something like that) they can do that just as easily when you arrive in the US. They can tell her that they wont allow you to marry her after you've already spent thousands of dollars moving and changing your life completely. Or you guys could get married behind their back and then they can cut her off forever (not just money, but emotionally) and while you may think that she would be okay with that (maybe she thinks she would be okay with that too) she will regret it later on. Just tell them and get it over with now before it causes more problems.
Marina-DelFemaleBrazil2009-09-01 05:32:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresFiancee (USC) has very strict parents.
Agreed, as stated earlier there is nothing her parents can do to stop her. They, I suppose, could stop supporting her unless she pulls the application (and if they threatened that then just file using a third address!) but barring that type of blackmail there is nothing they can do.

It sounds like it might be best for you to have the ability to work when you enter the US so that you can help support her and yourself. In that case, you guys might be better off getting married either in the US on a tourist visa (AND NOT SAYING AFTER THE WEDDING, ONLY GETTING MARRIED AND THEN GOING BACK TO AUS) or her coming to Aus and you guys getting married there, then applying for the CR-1. Look at all options and as Kathryn suggested read the whole process from START TO FINISH.

And while I agree that a marriage in ultimately between a husband and a wife, the family of the two of you (espeically the ones that will live in the same country as you) will affect your marriage! Just read around this forum! There is no good reason that you've given so far why you should not tell her parents.

I don't know them or you, but you and your fiancee aren't being very mature doing everything behind their backs....
Marina-DelFemaleBrazil2009-08-31 19:20:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresFiancee (USC) has very strict parents.
Follow up question:

Have you guys met in person???
Marina-DelFemaleBrazil2009-08-31 11:28:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresFiancee (USC) has very strict parents.
Just because he works in the US does not necessarily mean that all is fine. The information about his/her parents needs to be correct. If her dad is illegally in the US then I doubt that USCIS will notice, but you never know. There might be others who can offer more information on this aspect though. Assuming it is okay for her to put her illegal dad on the form and not get in trouble (if he is illegal, I have no idea....hopefully not!), then she still needs to have the right information. The information on the form shouldn't be too hard to get from her parents, even if they don't know about the situation! All you need is their place of birth, surely she could ask them that without them suspecting something!

Anyway, that being said, how old is she? If she is over 18 years old (and she has to be for this prcoess) her parents cannot stop her from filing and there is absolutely nothing they can do to prevent her from doing it! I know she lives there, but they cannot stop all of the mail she sends out! And FYI, she WILL receive mail from USCIS at her house so unless she plans on using a second address (of a friend or something, which is fine) then she's going to have to tell her parents anyway! Plus I think they'll figure it out when some Aussie shows up on their door and is there to marry their daughter!

My advice: tell them now because they are going to find out sooner or later and I promise you there is NOTHING they can do to stop you from filing. She can mail things without their permission just fine. She doesn't need anything from them, unless of course she wants them to co-sponsor but somehow I doubt that would work in this case. Tell them now and get it over with. And do not lie on the form!
Marina-DelFemaleBrazil2009-08-31 11:23:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresJust a few questions
Quick question:

Have you two only visited each other once? Has she ever come to Aus to visit you? This one visit is enough to qualify you for the process....however, it would be better if you have more than one visit between now and your interview. The one visit will be fine for the NOA2 stage and MIGHT be enough for the interview stage as well...but it is highly recommended that you get another visit in there. And not just for this process, but for the two of you in my opinion...but whatever.
Marina-DelFemaleBrazil2009-08-29 17:24:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresDCF and I-129F possible?
Agreed. DCF is for married persons only. But if you qualify for DCF because you -the USC has been living abroad there for more than 6 months, than that is by far the fastest and cheapest option!!
Marina-DelFemaleBrazil2009-09-08 11:50:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedureshow long we have to wait to reapply?
I agree with the above poster. No matter what I think you are better off trying to get them the information they need. And it is correct that you cannot just abandon the petition; however, you (the USC) can cancel the petition and try again.

Why do they want more information though? More proof of relationship or what? I do think that you should try to get them some information and/or ask if they will give you more time to get that information. If you have a good reason for needing 60 days, for example, they *might* give you that amount of time!
Marina-DelFemaleBrazil2009-09-08 11:07:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedureshow long we have to wait to reapply?
I'm a bit confused here and not sure how I can answer!!

We need more information if you want us to give you an answers that will help you out!

1st: why were you denied, for what reason? This should be on the letter of denial or the letter requesting more info

2nd: You say you aren't going to submit more info because you don't have much time!? What does that even mean? That you don't have enough time to get that info together? Or what?
Marina-DelFemaleBrazil2009-09-08 10:46:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresNew to VJ
Random comment about meeting in person:

I dated an Australian before meeting my Brazilian soon to be husband. We met in person in a hostel, exchanged emails and chatted online for 6 months. Then I went and stayed with him in Oz for 3 months, then online again for 4, then he was with me in the US for 3 months, then online for 5, then we lived together in London for a year.

Point being, about half of our relationship was online and half was not. Online we worked GREAT...in person, we were okay. It wasn't horrible, but it didn't make either of us happy. And we were so stuck on how great it was online that we suffered for a whole year living together in London before we decided to call it quits. See my signature below! He and I were within a month of the wedding when we called it off. We wasted time together and LOTS of money on the K-1 visa and wedding plans that were canceled at the last minute!

Obviously the internet is not all to blame as we did live together for a year, but there is just one example for you.
Marina-DelFemaleBrazil2009-09-08 12:20:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresFacebook Concern?
QUOTE (jsnearline @ Jul 6 2009, 12:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I could see something being an issue if you petitioned for a fiancee but your Facebook stie said you were already married to someone else.


I can't. I don't think that USCIS is stupid enough to think that because it says I (a female) am married to Jessica (obviously another female) and I'm petitioning for my fiancee (who is again obviously a male) that my relationship is not valid and they should deny our visa. Or even if I was "married" to another male....if they ask questions, then explain! I agree that you should be prepared to answer questions about it though. If the consulates did ask questions about it, then answer and that's that.

I've been married to Jessica (my best friend) on FB for about 5 years. If they asked about that at the interview I'd say, "oh yes. That's my best friend and we were also college roommates. We don't like putting our personal life on the internet for everyone to see so we marked that were are "married" to each other, which obviously everyone who knows us knows is not true and we're just friends. I'm friends with lots of people on the internet that I meet on briefly and I don't like them having complete access to my life, ect ect ect"

Edited by Marina-Del, 06 July 2009 - 08:30 AM.

Marina-DelFemaleBrazil2009-07-06 08:29:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresFacebook Concern?
I'm a bit torn on this. I kinda agree with Gary and I kinda agree with jundp on this one.

I agree with jundp in the sense that yes, a lot of companies do care about facebook and perhaps USCIS is one of them (in that they might check our FBs)

But I agree with Gary in that I really doubt that USCIS would deny a visa because it said that you and your fiancee where only friends!

And for the record, USCIS has been known to check VJ. Maybe not looking for individual people (I don't know the answer to that one!) but they definitely troll around VJ to get ideas about things (like new ideas of how to break their laws).
Marina-DelFemaleBrazil2009-07-01 18:34:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresFacebook Concern?
As other said, I highly doubt they are checking facebook. But again, really it's a good idea to work on your privacy settings anyway so that the whole world can't see your stuff, but that's your own personal business so whatever.

Also, even if they did check your FB they ARE NOT going to care that it says in a relationship instead of engaged, or even if it says single they aren't going to care. The letters of intent that you included are far more important than that. The only thing that I can think of that they might ask about (if they indeed check our FBs) is if you and your fiancee said "married". IF they do check FB and you say you are married, then they might ask about that at the interview.

But as Gary said, how many of us have things on our FB that is totally BS and not true??? Lots! I've been -married- to my best female friend on facebook for about 5 years now. No worries about changing it at all!!! But it's always a good idea to be prepared for any questions at the interview, FB related or not...be prepared for everything.

And to the person that said they screenshot the congrats on facebook for their I-129F packet, good idea! I haven't heard that one before. Not that that screenshot is really going to make a difference in your packet, but still...creative idea and I hadn't seen anyone mention that before!
Marina-DelFemaleBrazil2009-07-01 08:23:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresK1 interview this week - Question about filing date vs. engagement date
They don't care when you got engaged or when you go down on one knee or presented a ring or if you ever presented a ring at all!

Don't worry. And you don't even have to make up a date! If they ask when you go engaged you can just say "March 2009" and they would be fine with that. And there was a point when you and your fiance(e) talked about getting married because at some point you weren't applying for the K-1 and then you were. So whenever you decided to apply for the K-1, that's when you got engaged.
Marina-DelFemaleBrazil2009-09-08 11:35:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresK1 interview this week - Question about filing date vs. engagement date
Well......getting engaged and proposing are two different things in the long distance relationship world as I see you know!

If they ask you when you got engaged then give the date you decided that you'd get married (which is obviously BEFORE you applied for the K-1). If he asks you when you proposed then explain that the two of you official decided to get married on XX/XX/before K-1 but that you were apart at that time so you officially proposed on XX/XX/after K-1 and in this way...blah blah blah.

Just be honest. They know that many of us don't propose in the conventional manner. But it's best to not confuse them and if they ask to just be honest. But be clear that the two of you WERE ENGAGED before the K-1 was filed as that is a requirement of the visa (remember those letters you signed way back before USCIS that said you swore to get married within 90 days of entering...if that's not an engagement then I don't know what is!).
Marina-DelFemaleBrazil2009-09-08 11:29:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresFiancee visa for third time
My advice is the same as Bobby's. Perhaps some more time to get to know him better is in order, as you are about to embark upon a THIRD fiancee visa in TWO years. unsure.gif

I would be extra sure you and your fiancee have TON of information for the interview. I wouldn't be surprised if you have a very hard time convincing the officer at the interview that this is genuine.
Marina-DelFemaleBrazil2009-12-16 07:37:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresOpinion - 10/10/10 Wedding Date possible?

Originally I wanted 11/11/11 mainly because I'm obsessed with seeing 11:11 on the clock. But because of a family illness decided to move up the date. Plus after meeting, it's hard to be apart.

I could still do 11/11 or 12/12 but the year would be a bit off. I was mainly rooting for October so I could avoid a winter wedding. A winter wedding would be lovely if it snowed but chances are it would be just yuck.



It's funny...I always wanted a spring wedding...and, since we got married in Brazil, even though we got married in October we DID get married in the Sping!:lol:
Good luck! And yeah, 2011 or 2012 is sooo long to wait!

Edited by Marina-Del, 29 March 2010 - 06:58 PM.

Marina-DelFemaleBrazil2010-03-29 18:57:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresOpinion - 10/10/10 Wedding Date possible?
Aww...as other stated, you might make it, but don't get your heart set on it! Too bad though because then we'd share an anniversary!!

We were married 10/10/2009 (one day before Nik and Heather! hehe).

And as for the comment about a guy remembering, Del still asked me our wedding date the other day!! :P
Marina-DelFemaleBrazil2010-03-29 18:39:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresWhat if a spouse dies before divorce is final?
Yeah, I agree with above. The divorce would definitely not continue. Why should it? How can a dead person be divorced? Either way the marriage is no longer valid, so that's that! In this case the petitioner/beneficiary would show the death certificate of the prior spouse. Probably USCIS wouldn't even know that there had been a divorce in progress, and really they wouldn't need to know. The only way that it could be relevant is if the alive spouse started dating their new husband/wife BEFORE the prior one died, then they'd have to explain that divorce proceedings were in order at time of death.

As a side note, if you are asking about a K-1 visa, this is not the forum to be in. This is the CR-1 or IR-1 forum, but as this is a hypothetical situation, it doesn't really matter!

Edited by Marina-Del, 02 April 2010 - 04:40 PM.

Marina-DelFemaleBrazil2010-04-02 16:39:00