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Philippinesk1 visa

K1 visa checklist from application to interview:


I. The petitioner must be:

a. natural born U.S. citizen,
b. naturalized US Citizen
c. Born outside US but with US Citizen parents



II. Requirements in Filing K1 visa

for petitioner

1. I-129F [type legibly, if not applicable put N/A]
2. Letter of intent to marry
3. Birth certificate
4. Submit a completed and signed Form G-325A
5. Give USCIS a passport-style color photograph.
6. Provide copies of evidence that you and your fiancé(e) have personally met. e.i Pictures, photocopy of Receipt, photocopy of Boarding pass.
7. FEE of $170



If either you or your fiancé(e) were married before, give copies of documents showing that each prior
marriage was legally terminated.



for petitionee

1. letter of intent to marry
2. Birth certificate
3. Submit a completed and signed Form G-325A
4. Give USCIS a passport-style color photograph. * if youre from cebu i recommend COLOURS AYALA, tell them US VISA*




If either you or your fiancé(e) were married before, give copies of documents showing that each prior
marriage was legally terminated.




after you gather all the document the petitioner will file the petition.

Filing the Petition

You must file the Petition for Alien Fiancé(e), Form I-129F, with the Department of Homeland Security's U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) office that serves the area where you live. See the Department of Homeland Security's USCIS Field Offices for information on where you can file the petition. Note: You cannot file this petition at an embassy, consulate or U.S. immigration office abroad.

After the USCIS approves the petition, it sends the petition to National Visa Center for processing, prior to sending it to the embassy or consulate where your fiancé(e) will apply for a K-1 nonimmigrant visa for a fiancé(e).

sample: you can revised your very own letter of intent.. just basic format and wording.

LETTER OF INTENT TO MARRY


date:

I__your name____, of legal age.
I hereby certify that I am legally free to marry and intend to marry _fiancé(e)_, a U.S. citizen, within 90 days of my admission into the United States.

signed,

________




After sending the petition all you have to do is to wait. The consular section at the embassy or consulate where you, the fiancé(e) of an American citizen, will apply for a visa, will tell you about any additional specific requirements that you need to fulfill to complete your visa application.

How Long Does It Take?

The length of time varies from case to case according to its circumstances. The time it takes each USCIS office and each consular office to process the case varies. Some cases are delayed because the applicant does not follow instructions carefully or supplies incomplete information. (It is important to give correct addresses and telephone numbers.) In addition, the embassy or consulate may need to get security clearances for the applicant. Security clearances take time.


TVISA INTERVIEW APPOINTMENT where you can find your Medical and Interview Schedule


III. PREPARING FOR THE MEDICAL AND INTERVIEW

MEDICAL

A. APPOINTMENT LETTER FROM THE EMBASSY
B. A passport valid for travel to the United States and with a validity date at least six months beyond the applicant's intended period of stay in the United States.
C. 3 pieces of 2X2 PICTURES


Passport will be sent by ST. Lukes to the Embassy.


INTERVIEW


YOUR DOCUMENTS TO BRING

A. Birth certificate
B. CENOMAR
C. NBI
D. DS 156 [TWO COPY]
E. DS 156K [ONE COPY]
F. DS 157 [TWO COPY
E. Divorce or death certificate of any previous spouse for both the applicant and the petitioner



DOCUMENTS FROM PETITIONER

A. Evidence of financial support (Form I-134, Affidavit of Support ) *NOTARIZED
B. EMPLOYEMENT LETTER
C. INCOME TAX RETURN
D. BANK STATEMENT
E. Divorce or death certificate of any previous spouse for both the applicant and the petitioner



EVIDENCE OF MEETING


A. PICTURES
B. RECEIPTS
C. BOARDING PASS
D. REMITTANCES




EVIDENCE OF ENGAGEMENT


A. RECEIPT OF ENGAGEMENT RING
B. PICTURES


DONT FORGET THE PAYMENT OF $100 FOR THE VISA PRIOR TO THE INTERVIEW.


Credits: Maricel


this is old information. everyone would probably like if those were still the fees.

the current filing fee for the I-129f petition...$340
the current K Visa appliction fee................$350
sunandmoonMalePhilippines2012-01-13 12:17:00
Philippinesk1 visa
here's where to start...

VJ K-1 Guide... http://www.visajourn...content/k1guide
sunandmoonMalePhilippines2012-01-12 20:10:00
PhilippinesDocuments for Manila Interview
....................................................................................................:thumbs:

Which makes it confusing sometimes. Just follow the instructions in the packet here: http://photos.state....3__rtf2_003.pdf and you won't have any problems.


sunandmoonMalePhilippines2012-01-30 13:06:00
PhilippinesDocuments for Manila Interview

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(3) I do not know what that security surcharge is, never heard of it. Not sure where you got that from.



the Immigrant Visa Security Surcharge only applys to immigrant visas. it does not apply to K-Visas since they are non-immigrant visas.
sunandmoonMalePhilippines2012-01-30 12:51:00
PhilippinesDocuments for Manila Interview

3. Do we pay the Immigrant Visa Security Surcharge ($74)? And if yes, do we pay it also for her daughter? (that is, $74 x 2?)


It is not needed for K-Visas.

if you haven't already seen it, here's a link to the Embassy Webpage with links to the interview preparation instructions...
http://manila.usemba...v/wwwh3224.html

a don't forget about CFO, a Philiipine Govt. requirement...

http://www.cfo.gov.p...onals&catid=140
sunandmoonMalePhilippines2012-01-30 00:31:00
Philippinesregarding on poverty guidelines

Wat if i claim on my 2 kids would it effect the k1 visa?


how do you mean? :unsure:
sunandmoonMalePhilippines2012-01-27 13:36:00
Philippinesregarding on poverty guidelines
your household size would be 4. you, fiance, and two children. according to the USCIS Poverty Guidelines for 2011, a household size of four requires $27,937.

http://www.uscis.gov...form/i-864p.pdf
sunandmoonMalePhilippines2012-01-25 00:11:00
PhilippinesHow to set up Embassy Interview?
first pay the visa application fee. The application fee for a K1 or K2 nonimmigrant visa is US$350, payable only in Philippine pesos at the prevailing exchange rate.

http://photos.state....3__rtf2_003.pdf
sunandmoonMalePhilippines2012-01-30 23:07:00
PhilippinesD-160 form for Non immigrant VIsa
the DS-160 is not required for a K-1 Visa.
sunandmoonMalePhilippines2012-01-31 20:20:00
PhilippinesAOS requirements

OK, thanks T. :thumbs: We must have sent tax transcripts. I thought they're more concerned with showing you filed joint returns than proving income for AOS but maybe both are important.


in most cases of K-1 AOS , a joint tax return would not be available when filing for AOS. a joint tax return is good evidence when filing for ROC.
sunandmoonMalePhilippines2012-02-03 12:04:00
PhilippinesPetitioning son by conditional GC holder
she can petition her son now. unfortunately, I think it's about a 10 year wait for the visa to be available.
sunandmoonMalePhilippines2012-02-04 01:02:00
PhilippinesK1 I-129F Visa Question [USA/Philipians}

He has the MNL#, even paid the visa fee already... they are rockin 'n' rolling!!!


if the child is coming at the same time as the mom, it will require a separate visa fee.
sunandmoonMalePhilippines2012-02-03 11:45:00
PhilippinesK1 I-129F Visa Question [USA/Philipians}
you've listed the child in the i-129f, so you're set to go. :thumbs: the child will need a separate visa application. the child will also need a medical. the DS-230 is not used in Manila for K-1/K-2 Visas. here are the DS forms that will be used.
DS-156 ( fiance & child ), DS-157 ( fiance & child ), DS-156k ( fiance only ).

if you haven't seen it already, here's a link to the interview preparation instructions...

http://photos.state....3__rtf2_003.pdf
sunandmoonMalePhilippines2012-02-03 11:38:00
PhilippinesCOF Seminar before departure
the children will not attend a seminar, but they will need to be registered with CFO and have the sticker in their passports.

http://www.cfo.gov.p...-visa&catid=139
sunandmoonMalePhilippines2012-02-06 16:26:00
PhilippinesEAD
I think you'll be getting your card in a couple of days.
sunandmoonMalePhilippines2012-02-01 01:05:00
PhilippinesSmiles and Excitement Tonight!!
Congrats :thumbs: one down, two to go...
sunandmoonMalePhilippines2012-02-08 14:21:00
Philippinesreputation

Just as " The Darren Turns" closes to a packed house a new feature opens!!

:rofl:

:pop:


there are a couple of minor episodes in other threads. he's probably working on a sequel. I'm sure he'll come up with Blockbuster.
sunandmoonMalePhilippines2012-01-03 17:54:00
PhilippinesSon Brought Illegally?
as far as custody, under Philippine law, the mother would have sole custody.
Chapter 3. Illegitimate Children

Art. 175. Illegitimate children may establish their illegitimate filiation in the same way and on the same evidence as legitimate children.
The action must be brought within the same period specified in Article 173, except when the action is based on the second paragraph of Article 172, in which case the action may be brought during the lifetime of the alleged parent. (289a)

Art. 176. Illegitimate children shall use the surname and shall be under the parental authority of their mother, and shall be entitled to support in conformity with this Code. The legitime of each illegitimate child shall consist of one-half of the legitime of a legitimate child. Except for this modification, all other provisions in the Civil Code governing successional rights shall remain in force. (287a)

http://www.chanroble...eorderno209.htm
sunandmoonMalePhilippines2012-02-12 00:34:00
PhilippinesFiance's beware

My wife surprised my one day with something she calls a 'buttercup'. She farts in her fist and delivers it deceitfully to my nose. It's very effective and shocking. I've since made several clever attacks. My proudest attack was farting into the tube of a toilet paper roll and offering it to her to blow her nose. She may have introduced this modern warfare tactic but i have advanced the technology.



I'm afraid to ask what she has in her hand in your picture


:rofl: it may not be something any of us wants to know...
sunandmoonMalePhilippines2012-01-17 23:20:00
Philippinesk2 inquiry

thanks, yeah we are aware about her schooling...About AOS, maybe we will figure it out.Thanks so much again :)


whether coming at the same time or follow to join, the child will require a separate AOS application.
sunandmoonMalePhilippines2012-02-15 13:53:00
Philippinesk2 inquiry

Yes, it is the same case number and you should proceed just like she will be traveling with you. Get the medical all done and the interview and all of that. She has up to a year to follow you, but she will need have entered the U.S. before you can file for AOS unless you do a separate AOS for her which will cost more. Another thing she needs to understand is that just because she has her High School done in the PI, it will not be equal to a U.S. diploma and she will need to return to high school here in the U.S. to complete some of the courses that are required for a U.S. High School diploma or be able to pass a GED test. She won't have the U.S. specific courses like History, Government, 4 years of English, and possibly many others.

--Jim


:no: if following to join, a K-2 Visa must be issued within one year of the date the K-1 Visa. if you apply for the K-2 Visa at the same time as your K-1 Visa, then the child must enter the US before the visa expires, which is 6 months. for AOS, the child will require a separate application, whether coming at same time or follow to join. the difference is when applying at the same time, the fee is $685, if the child is under 14 years old. when filing separately, the fee is the regular $985.

Edited by sunandmoon, 15 February 2012 - 01:24 PM.

sunandmoonMalePhilippines2012-02-15 13:19:00
PhilippinesThings you had to buy and/or throw away?

Oh that comment. Well it does not appear it was meant in a bad way. I think everybody is way too sensitive about race nowadays but that it is my opinion


I think my post got twisted into it was about the racial overtones of American White Boys. I didn't take AWB that way. I meant the OP's generaliztion that insinuated we don't show our wives enough respect was ignorant.

Edited by sunandmoon, 17 February 2012 - 01:19 PM.

sunandmoonMalePhilippines2012-02-17 13:12:00
Philippineshelp with mama
This thread was been going for well over a week... here's a recap of Darren's posts...

ok, new post. Sorry so long but hopefully the more information, less torment from others. How to deal with mama in law? told her and the family: "akin sya ngyon" (she is mine now. Gretchen is extremely happy I said this. It seems to have really improved our relationship. i told Gretchen "your parents no longer control you. I do. We are not married yet in vows, but you live with me here. In my heart, we are already married.")

I really truly very very very very much respect the parents of mahal ko.
mama is holding a grudge against others from the village here in the USA because they are not helping out the village. mama does not want her daughter associating with them. mama does not understand if mama cuts off her daughter from them, her daughter may not succeed in adjustment to USA. She does not seem to understand USA too much. the others helped out their family. They could barely afford to do that and right now have lost much. mama seems to want to really "run the village since she is president of the chapel". I told the brother I am trying to be nice. mama does not want to make me upset. (I haven't told Gretchen or her parents yet, but those same people mama does not want her daughter to associate with will be the witnesses for the wedding here in the USA. the same people mama does not want Gretchen seeing will confirm the marriage and help Gretchen to stay here. mama is messing with Gretchen's future and in turn mama's own future.)

(But when I hear mama trying to influence things on her daughter, who no longer lives at home, she had better start thinking who wears the pants and who wears the dresses. Also mama needs to start thinking of the "gravy train". I am focusing on here now with Gretchen. I have told papa very little money will be coming until I recover financially from the trip. Gretchen and I went shopping here tonight. Gretchen noticed the cost of food and items was much, much higher than back home. Plus, we have to go Sept 8 through Sept 29 with no paychecks. What we spent while I was there in the philippines is now affecting us here. Gretchen is learning the budget was there for a reason. the next 2 or 3 weeks will be tough, but better to teach now than later. Friends have offered to help out, but i have told them, "thanks, but helping out does not re-enforce the budget or how her parents home affects her new home. How she lives here is directly affected by the money which was spent over there.")

Also, I am going to be really putting down my foot. Seems mama was out buying paint today. I just saw things while I was there. I believe and not yet confirmed the 6,000php I gave to Gretchen in Manila went directly to mama with or without papa knowing. Mama getting her hair done right after we landed, eating lunch at the mall makes me believe that. papa may not have known since he asked me for money to go home and food. Or maybe they told Gretchen not to tell me. (they bought a new purse for Gretchen and underwear (Gretchen told them but not me which upset me) as well which makes me believe they had the 6,000 php) Either way, it has upset me and Gretchen now knows hiding things from me is a bad, bad thing. I have told Gretchen to tell me her needs and wants. Gretchen did not yet see herself as belonging to me while we were there. I hope I have finally cleared this up.

I have told the oldest brother, mama would do well and may fare better in the long run by listening to the daughter of the mom who I am friends with here. I have talked with Gretchen about this too in much length today. (I will post more on this discussion later.) Gretchen now understands fully where I am coming from.



The phrase is what Gretchen gave me. What phrase helps to understand in her village.

gretchen is not property. Gretchen is mine just like I am hers. The idea is Gretchen and I are a family unit belonging to each other. Gretchen can make her own decisions. the idea is Gretchen and I make decisions together.

As for pants and dresses. She comes from a very very province town. The saying goes in the village, if the women start wearing the pants, the men will start wearing the dresses because "someone has to wear the dresses" You may call it a 1950's mentality, but it is still something which is found in 90% of the world. America is the only country which chooses to call the mentality "old fashioned". And I ain't looking for sympathy. I am looking for input..... like johnny 5 .... input, input, innnnnpppuuuuttttt.



ok, I know some parts of what I have said are objectionable to some. I hope people understand I do not "own" or "control" Gretchen except in sense which helps her to "feel" as such in her culture. Please note the phrase I posted means more in their culture, plus establishes me as the "role" in the family for me and Gretchen. I am having to walk a very hard line between being respectful, and dealing with other issues. AS for the people at the wedding. These are the "family" they introduced me to. Stating in the beginning these people were "family". Arrangements to have them at the wedding was made a long time ago just after Gretchen and I were engaged in order to provide witnesses for the finalizing of the k-1 visa to AOS. This was before the moeny I started sending to support Gretchen each month. There was a major falling out between families after my second visit. Not sure what it was, but believe it was related to support I was sending Gretchen. Seeing what I saw my last visit. I think it was the purchasing of furniture and other items for the house in June without telling me. Just taking the money and abusing what I was sending. the "family" who they introduced me to tried to warn the mother-in-law, but mama-in-law chose to ignore them. I am not sure the whole story yet. But I am digging very very deeply now before the wedding.

this is the part I am trying to deal with the demands for money from Kanos. I learned about the "what goes in, goes out". Having been working with Gretchen on it. However, the hard part is her turning over money to her parents, thinking I just had more money to give or for to support both me and Gretchen. I am trying not to offend people on here. Nor am I trying to offend her parents. However, I know I have to start setting some ground rules on money or I will go nuts trying to make everyone happy. then when I am broke no one will understand why in the heck we cannot send any money.

I mean things started getting out of hand on the second week being there in the village. Money to get home and for food. Money for a farewell party. Money to travel back and forth from village. Money to rent a jeepney. Money for class party. Money for a church seminar. No load on phone, No load in internet smart card. The phone you bought me went to my brother. I bought this phone with money you sent me, it now is going to my mother. Mother got electric to the house in her name. Some of the clothes I took for Gretchen ended up going to other aunts and cousins in the family. It was getting tiring for me. Also, please understand I have sent 160,000php since meeting Gretchen. the money was to support Gretchen. Internet per month was only 1200 php (200php unlimited internet for 5 days, I found this out as leaving.) With the money I sent, they could have bought a boat had they saved each month. But the money was spent on other items without thought to when Gretchen was leaving. Now Gretchen is seeing the living here. Wondering why no furniture yet. buying groceries. Spending time with the kids. My work. Gretchen is happy. But I feel so bad because of how much the trip bit into finances for home here. the first week was fine. the second week, in the village. The budget went nuts. It should have been less for just the two of us. But it absolutely went crazy. The harder I tried to keep on budget the worse it got. I spent nearly 60,000 php or better the second week compared with 35,000php the first week and I did not know the 6,000php was gone until Saturday, the 17th. Talk about being shocked.

I am not trying to control. But I went on a limited budget, with some allowances for overages. But the problem is the expectations. Somehow there is this thinking the money came in, just spend it. then when she runs out for load, he will send more. No thought as to how it made me feel when I found out what had been going on. You can say all you want about culture, this, that, robbing the cradle. But I feel so much like a schmuck over all the money sent.



Please note, I am dealing with a tribal customs not todays mentality in most of the world. Everything Americans believe or hold true go out the door in this area. they are not barbaric, however, there are certain customs of a tribal nature which hold true. I am dealing with mentality of a "Kano" in their minds, plus the customs and traditions they hold to. What I am not posting is much more shocking then what I am posting. What I am learning and the translations would send most Americans into fits, tantrums, and human rights activists screaming.



This is a tribal custom. A right of passage into marriage for a girl. It is the changing of being a child into being a responsible adult. I am having to research the old tribal customs of the philippines to even understand these things myself. I am involved in many tribal customs having to be performed. I just wish I knew how to explain it. It is more closely related to native american customs then anything else I can find. But even then the customs as still different.



man, I haven't posted on the thread for a while, jsut letting it take its toll on [people winding out. Sheesh. I love mahal ko. I am happy she spent money on her family and took care of them versus spending money on herself. It shows me how important family is to her. If she cares about her parents and family that much, how much more will she care about our family we have together?

the problem is the lack of forethought. the spending without saving. Being ready for a "rainy day". there is a typhoon right now in northern Philippines. I feel sad for everyone it is affecting.
It is also affecting the village. they cannot fish. I do not have money to send them. I just got back and have to catch up again. MIL went out and spent money on paint instead of saving the money. Now the family is hurting for food, plus learning, I just cannot send money right now. No matter how much I want to, there are bills and responsibilities here now with Gretchen. (MIL had money to make it through rough times until I recovered here and MIL spent it on paint. I can't fix the "little red wagon" when I have to wait on the parts to fix "the wagon" myself.) I even told FIL it will be a few weeks before I can send money and then only 4300php a month. (it cost me including work loss a total of 740,000php for the trip) the problem is they are not and were not considering the expenses here. that money I sent to Gretchen had to be coming from somewhere. there was no thought to the fact the money might be the same amount I would spend to take care of her here in the US per month. I am now in the learning curve. MIL, and the family in the village is learning. If you take form the pocket, you are affecting something else. This time the money you took from the pocket affected their daughter in the US when we got back. I tried to explain to Gretchen how tight the budget was. The first week it worked. The second week, it did not work. I hate putting my foot down right now. But there is no better time to learn. Get through the rough weeks now versus not learning and having to repeat again down the road. Next time, Gretchen will be saying "no" much more often when she knows how it affects things back home.



hehe, geez. I do not want control. How do I know how to say it???? if I wanted control, I would run for political office and get in politics. Wanting to control to me is like wanting to tame the wind. Forget it, no fun. I absolutely hate it.

It is a good thing she spent money on the family. However, the problem was the lack of concern for us. She never said it was too much, or where the money was going to go. It was for food, and for her and I to talk. Instead of letting me know it was too much, they just used the money, then next month she was out of money again and needed more for us to continue talking. Instead of being thrifty with a little money, they went overboard with excess. Instead of thinking ahead to when I did find out. Of course I was upset and mad when I found out. She knows it upset me. It was for a good cause for the family. However, it has affected things here.

I am a contractor. I do not work. No money. I lost as much money from not working as the trip cost me. And yes I came back with $300 in my pocket, $17 in savings, and $500 overdraft in my checking account with no payday for 10 days. From Saturday to payday, we are living on $30. Now that I am working, money will start flowing again. But I will have gone 21 days without a paycheck.

AS for her working, that is not what we want. She wants children. I want her to be at home with the children. I do not want her working. To me family is important. Very important. Also, in her village no women work. It is not like the "modern" society views. Sorry, but those of you who a liberals on here. I am a traditionalist. I respect your views, please respect mine and Gretchen. her working to send money home to family does not solidify our marriage. She ends up being married to me so she can send money home to mom and dad. How is that a good thing for the marriage? Her parents are still her master, not you. In a marriage, there is a family unit. If she is serving her parents by working to send them money, How are you and her being a family?

In my own humble opinion, the parents need to be told what I told my fiancee's family. She is mine now. We will take care of you. But do not make any demands of her without ME knowing. Do not put pressure on her, come to ME. I am the head of the household. I care for her and for her family. But I will not allow them to make demands or cause her to hide things from me as has been done. I am cutting to the root of the cause. I now know you enjoyed the "excess" money I sent. I now know I sent too much money. Your house is built, you have done things. Now I am building my house with my fiancee. Once our house is built and in order then and only then will we come back to the family in the village. You have enjoyed excess. You have taken advantage. I need time to think this over with Gretchen and talk with her. my house is important. Just as your house is there. However, I am not moving to the village, nor do I intend to live in the Philippines. Gretchen does not want to live in the Philippines either. I am allergic to fruit pollen and some raw fruit. I suffered while there. Only Gretchen knows and I did not tell her until we were leaving.)

Right now, my ex is pissed over Gretchen and hauling me back to court. I have to take care of that issue now. and my ex does not even know I know yet. She thinks it is still a surprise.



Gretchen knows exactly all that is happening. I do not hide anything from her. I tell her all that is going on. She has seen my ex. But they have not spoken. I do not know how Gretchen will re-act to her. Gretchen is very very shy. But I think if you corner her, you had better watch out. I don't think Gretchen is a girl you can push around. My ex may make that mistake and find out exactly what filipinas are like. Gretchen and I make jokes about "clubs" and "husband attention getters" (rolling pins and skillet-cast iron pans) But she knows how much I love her. nothing is as important to me as she is.

My frustration is just over the cost of the trip with the little incidentals the second week of the trip, with the "unknown" issues coming back. It is like saying no is something which makes you look bad because of what has been said about you by her family. then when she comes back here, she finds out you are not rich but just living a normal good life. And food is something you have plenty of. Also working a normal 9 to 5 job is something new. You work everyday. (sometimes more) and when you say you are leaving to go somewhere, you are actually going somewhere. Village life is much more relaxed then life in the USA.....


sunandmoonMalePhilippines2011-09-29 23:27:00
Philippineshelp with mama

I thought there was a boat in this deal that is still forthcoming.


maybe MIL and FIL blew that deal due to misappropriation of funds. or maybe FIL wanted an upgrade from a pump boat...

http://sulit.com.ph/3672781
sunandmoonMalePhilippines2011-09-27 23:35:00
Philippineshelp with mama

darren likes to give so much information bcoz he likes the attention that is given to him by all the members who posted here... same as in the village too he liked the attention that was given to him by the village thats why he loose out of control in spending his money. its already sickening hearing about the MIL issues now he is pulling out the ex issues... Its a never ending drama... you can almost make a tele novela out of your dramatics. :)


we can either stayed tuned for the next episode or change the channel. giving input or advise to Darren seems to be the same as talking to the TV.
sunandmoonMalePhilippines2011-09-27 19:55:00
Philippineshelp with mama

My frustration is just over the cost of the trip with the little incidentals the second week of the trip, with the "unknown" issues coming back. It is like saying no is something which makes you look bad because of what has been said about you by her family. then when she comes back here, she finds out you are not rich but just living a normal good life. And food is something you have plenty of. Also working a normal 9 to 5 job is something new. You work everyday. (sometimes more) and when you say you are leaving to go somewhere, you are actually going somewhere. Village life is much more relaxed then life in the USA.....

in a previous post you said the budget went nuts in the second week, now it's little incidentals. your posts can be confusing at times.
I guess you can see now how this is an issue that should have been discussed months ago with Gretchen. were you caught totally off guard that you were thought of as a rich american with an unending flow of money or is it something you ignored, figuring you'd deal with it once Gretchen was in the USA? you've asked for input in this thread, but you only seem to respond by making excuses for your actions.
sunandmoonMalePhilippines2011-09-27 18:01:00
Philippineshelp with mama

hehe, geez. I do not want control. , no fun. I absolutely hate it.

... She is mine now. We will take care of you. But do not make any demands of her without ME knowing. Do not put pressure on her, come to ME. I am the head of the household. I care for her and for her family. But I will not allow them to make demands or cause her to hide things from me as has been done.


you don't want control? :blink:
sunandmoonMalePhilippines2011-09-27 14:10:00
Philippineshelp with mama

I am happy she spent money on her family and took care of them versus spending money on herself. It shows me how important family is to her. If she cares about her parents and family that much, how much more will she care about our family we have together?


so you've gone from shock to in awe... anyways, best of luck with future financial issues with the family and Gretchen having to deal with the financal demands from her family.
sunandmoonMalePhilippines2011-09-26 23:40:00
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we may feel that he made some mistakes with his interpretations of the Philippine culture and made some unwise decisions on financial issues, but it's unfair to make unnecessay comments as to why they entered into their relationship.
sunandmoonMalePhilippines2011-09-25 19:14:00
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I think ya'll scared Darren off! Well, sometimes the truth hurts.

I agree with nearly everything that's been said thus far and hope he takes it to heart. :thumbs:


nah, don't think so. he's just too busy researching...
sunandmoonMalePhilippines2011-09-22 12:37:00
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Please note, I am dealing with a tribal customs not todays mentality in most of the world. Everything Americans believe or hold true go out the door in this area. they are not barbaric, however, there are certain customs of a tribal nature which hold true. I am dealing with mentality of a "Kano" in their minds, plus the customs and traditions they hold to. What I am not posting is much more shocking then what I am posting. What I am learning and the translations would send most Americans into fits, tantrums, and human rights activists screaming.



This is a tribal custom. A right of passage into marriage for a girl. It is the changing of being a child into being a responsible adult. I am having to research the old tribal customs of the philippines to even understand these things myself. I am involved in many tribal customs having to be performed. I just wish I knew how to explain it. It is more closely related to native american customs then anything else I can find. But even then the customs as still different.


Dareen, maybe it's time to drop the book and face reality. more research isn't going to help you with the situation you created with the family in the Philippines. as far as the money you have spent up to this point, as the saying goes, don't cry over spilt milk. you need to work together with Gretchen to manage the financial expectations of the family in the Philippines.
sunandmoonMalePhilippines2011-09-21 11:49:00
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Darren, you've said many times that you understand the Philiipine culture, but it seems you do not understand human nature. the monthly support you were sending for Gretchen was a windfall. you knew the way Gretchen lived, yet you sent far more than what was needed to support her and now your shocked how all the money was spent. you brought her more clothes than she needed, now are surprised she gave some to members of her family.
Gretchen is the one who now will have to deal with the financial expectations of the her family back in the Philippines. you will need to work together with her, not just laying down the law. it seems there are many things do not see without your glasses...
sunandmoonMalePhilippines2011-09-20 15:56:00
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I haven't told Gretchen or her parents yet, but those same people mama does not want her daughter to associate with will be the witnesses for the wedding here in the USA.


they bought a new purse for Gretchen and underwear (Gretchen told them but not me which upset me) as well which makes me believe they had the 6,000 php) Either way, it has upset me and Gretchen now knows hiding things from me is a bad, bad thing.


these seem to be contradictory statements.
sunandmoonMalePhilippines2011-09-20 11:19:00
PhilippinesFiancee's aunt co-sponsoring my fiancee

Wow the I134 is not legally binding? This email appears to have come from the USCIC (correct me if I am wrong), but doesn't the I134 state on it that the co-sponsor and I can be sued if she becomes a public charge? I am just confused about the "not legally binding."


it's in the Foreign Affairs Manual.

9 FAM 40.41 N4.6-3 Use of Form I-134, Affidavit of Support
(CT:VISA-1317; 09-24-2009)
a. Because INA 212(a)(4)© and INA 213A require the use of Form I-864, Affidavit of Support Under Section 213A of the Act, for so many classes of immigrants, the use of Form I-134, Affidavit of Support, has been reduced considerably. Nevertheless, there still are circumstances when Form I-134 will be beneficial. This affidavit, submitted by the applicant at your request, is not legally binding on the sponsor and should not be accorded the same weight as Form I-864. Form I-134 should be given consideration as one form of evidence, however, in conjunction with the other forms of evidence mentioned below.


http://www.state.gov...ation/86988.pdf

scroll to page 15 for info on the I-134

a K-1 Visa holder is technically not considered an intending immigrant until they file for AOS, therefore the I-864 is not used until the applicant files for AOS.
sunandmoonMalePhilippines2011-10-19 23:15:00
PhilippinesPlease Tell me if assumption is correct..NBI vs Police certificate
QUOTE (Eros_the_Plumber @ Mar 16 2009, 03:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thank you all for your replies.....


Can someone please has the OUMWA web site link?
or maybe the address of the OUMWA office in Manila.....
if nothing else she may need to take a trip to Manila to request Police clearance from Baharain though the department of
foreign affair (DFA) as someone suggested. I think that may be the fasted way.....I really hope so.

Just got the HARD COPY today saying that I-129F has been approved and forwarded to the listed consulate.
Also say approval notice from 3/10/2009 to 7/10/2009.....
I am guessing this is the time she has to get the visa approved?


from what I've seen in the past, Manila will revalidate the NOA2 if the interview does not occur before the expiration date or visa issued.
sunandmoonMalePhilippines2009-03-16 17:44:00
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Time to listen to Harold Camping


his predictions are a disservice to the Christian Faith...

Edited by sunandmoon, 23 May 2011 - 07:39 PM.

sunandmoonMalePhilippines2011-05-23 19:38:00
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Stay tune, I have a second question on another thread once things settle down here. Right now there is too much dust in the air!

Time to listen to Harold Camping


another thread, what a surprise. looking forward to it with much anticipation...

as far as this thread. time for countdown to thread lock?

Btw, besides your being wrong, so was he...

Edited by sunandmoon, 23 May 2011 - 07:30 PM.

sunandmoonMalePhilippines2011-05-23 19:25:00
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1. when a lady... is bored... it means she is not happy with the person she is with @ home.



By the way, I never said mine will not get bored, I will be shocked if she does not. Hey! All I know is that I love her I do not know any one else heart. :thumbs:


sunandmoonMalePhilippines2011-05-23 18:56:00
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Thanks for hijacking my thread:

This thing was about romanticism and the beauty of love. You guys twisted like 360 degree. When love is very strong? the last thing a person thinks is about being bored, homesick, or depressed. But guys this is only my OPTION and i am sticking with it.

I guess you will not get my point and I will not settle with your term. So be it. :)

That my boys and girls are my 2 cents.


I think I love and some of us love with our hearts ! it is a different kind of love. The kind of that feels like little stars dancing in my heart. Not with ...


myself, I wouldn't try to change your view of things, since that obviously that would be impossible. But you have it wrong. when love is stong, being bored, homesick, or depressed, can be overcome.

Edited by sunandmoon, 23 May 2011 - 06:15 PM.

sunandmoonMalePhilippines2011-05-23 18:14:00
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I would like to ask my fellow readers a question that is very on topic as JR is offering his limited supply worldly experience here for our consumption and has even placed a value on it...

He says it's worth 2 cents (US pennies), I countered with 2 Mexican Pesos.

What would you place the value of his advice at?

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sunandmoonMalePhilippines2011-05-23 12:29:00