ForumTitleContentMemberSexCountryDate/Time
Middle East and North AfricaFriday
I'm here! smile.gif So what should we do this weekend option a) Pick your own fruit farm (peaches, strawberries etc) OR cool.gif Beach. hmmmm
MrsAmeraFemaleMorocco2009-06-19 07:51:00
Middle East and North AfricaTatoo Discussion
I've heard that having a pre-existing tattoo is somewhat like the issue of non-Muslim name. As long as it's not anti-Islam then there's not much issue with it. I've also thought it was funny that it's totally ok to have your ears pierced (a form of mutilating your body), or your nose pierced (in countries like Pakistan/India/Afghanistan) but tattoos are a taboo. Also a lot of Berber and even Arab women in North Africa tattoo their chins and foreheads and this is considered acceptable. Who knows!
MrsAmeraFemaleMorocco2009-06-10 11:37:00
Middle East and North AfricaTatoo Discussion
I have one small one on my lower back. It's a symbol that I use to sign my artwork. Don't regret it but don't really show it off either. Husband has none and would never get one!
MrsAmeraFemaleMorocco2009-06-10 10:55:00
Middle East and North AfricaTraveling from London to Casablanca
There's a new interstate from Marrakech to Casa - only takes about 2-2.5 hrs driving now wink.gif Not bad!
MrsAmeraFemaleMorocco2009-06-20 23:13:00
Middle East and North AfricaTraveling from London to Casablanca
jenn's right it's easyjet not funjet sorry!
MrsAmeraFemaleMorocco2009-06-20 12:01:00
Middle East and North AfricaTraveling from London to Casablanca
I know FunJet (think that's what its called) has flights to casa. Also try Atlas Blue (they may only go into Marrakech though) I'll keep looking.
MrsAmeraFemaleMorocco2009-06-20 08:33:00
Middle East and North AfricaMonday!!I
I-94 = white piece of paper put into passports when they are entering the country.
CBP = Customs and Border Patrol

smile.gif me = government acronym specialist LOL
MrsAmeraFemaleMorocco2009-06-22 13:49:00
Middle East and North AfricaMonday!!I
Good morning everyone! We had a fun but not too overly active weekend. Saturday we went to a lunch/dinner/swimming party at a friends house. Lots of people and we had a good time. Yesterday sort of a lazy day, got up around 11am, made breakfast, and watched a movie. Had lunch. Then we went to a park on the Potomac, right near Reagan National airport. So we went for a walk, hung out and watched the planes take off! It was really nice, and I think we're going to make a picnic and go to another park tonight. I'm so tired of being stuck indoors and the rain seems to have finally stopped so best to take advantage of that!
MrsAmeraFemaleMorocco2009-06-22 07:24:00
Middle East and North AfricaIslam and Chicken Marsala
Maybe it's in the reading - I read her comment to be the that the situation was as such - not that the person was as such.

My point in all of it is that some people on all sides have a holy than thou complex. As in we're right, you're wrong and I'm not going to listen to anything different. This isn't just in religion or contained to this board, it's all over. A lot of people don't agree with things Tamara says, I am one of them, but that is the same as anyone else. Sometimes you have to just let things roll. This goes for both sides. Maybe what she said was insensitive but it's not the first time something insensitive has been said. I hear Muslims all the time make comments against other religions. Sometimes it's best to let a fire die that stoke it (AGAIN).
MrsAmeraFemaleMorocco2009-06-19 14:54:00
Middle East and North AfricaIslam and Chicken Marsala
QUOTE (aisha kandisha @ Jun 19 2009, 03:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (TamaraLovesAdam @ Jun 19 2009, 02:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Because I dont hate muslims. I just dont agree with alot of things some of the women on here have said. I have more respect for VW and her opinions than some on here. And if I agree with something someone says, then I say so.


There is some irony if you look at those who seem to favor VW/geg's opinions. whistling.gif


Seriously, just because things are interrpreted in Islam or any religion for that matter doesn't mean everyone has to a) agree with them and B. remain silent if they don't. Back off a little bit and don't get so bent out of shape because someone doesn't agree with you.

Edited by MrsAmera, 19 June 2009 - 02:29 PM.

MrsAmeraFemaleMorocco2009-06-19 14:29:00
Middle East and North AfricaIslam and Chicken Marsala
I think it has a tiny bit to do with personality but a lot to do with culture. (oh and he would have a glass of water next to his bed...gag). Boys are soooo catered to - I see it even in how my MIL treats her grandsons vs grand-daughters...
MrsAmeraFemaleMorocco2009-06-19 12:57:00
Middle East and North AfricaIslam and Chicken Marsala
I didn't say I agreed with it smile.gif
MrsAmeraFemaleMorocco2009-06-19 11:18:00
Middle East and North AfricaIslam and Chicken Marsala
I always thought the basis for that was the passing of religion - whereas the faith of the child was passed through the father. By a woman marrying a non-Muslim man, then the faith of the children would not be Islam. Patriachical lineage...
MrsAmeraFemaleMorocco2009-06-19 11:15:00
Middle East and North AfricaIslam and Chicken Marsala
Yes and no - I think that he has to accomodate a little. It's not like she he has to go out of his way to pick things up for her. He wants to eat, he has to fulfill his end of the bargain too because a) she doesn't speak the language and cool.gif he's being uber careful with finances. Also think of everything we had to do - so the shoe should be on the other foot - he should be taking care of those things for her...right??
MrsAmeraFemaleMorocco2009-06-19 09:26:00
Middle East and North AfricaIslam and Chicken Marsala
Ughhh!! Men and their mothers. My husband was the SAME way I mean waited on HAND and FOOT from day one. When I went to visit he couldn't even tell me where the water glasses were because *gasp* he had never gotten his own glass of water!!! How come mothers do that and then tell you "hey yea don't keep it up" well gee maybe if you didn't spoil the H*** out of them in the first place we wouldn't have this issue. I too hate the "oh whatever" when I ask what my husband wanted to eat. Eggs are your friend at least for my husband, Scrambled, omelets, fried all good standbys. Add a little salt, pepper and cumin on top. Bread and cheese, honey or butter and jelly. Some fruit, a glass of juice ta da! My husband doesn't mind repetition and until you learn other recipes these are good.

My husband never really told me what he liked. I just made things trial and error. If he liked it great, I would make it again, if he didn't well I would either tweak it or hold off and try again in a few months. It's been 3.5 years and I just now feel like I really "get" what he does and doesn't like. Don't worry Olivia you will figure it out smile.gif

Oh yes and the shopping - sorry he has to do the errands it's going to be easier at least until you get your footing there. Make him a list and send it in the morning - that way he can pick things up on his way home or during a break in the day. He really shouldn't complain as someone else mentioned usually the men do do this kind of shopping there....
MrsAmeraFemaleMorocco2009-06-19 06:28:00
Middle East and North Africaladies with moroccan fiance' or husband............
Yea I'm with Kenza on this one. Didn't vote - met in person first.
MrsAmeraFemaleMorocco2009-06-25 08:50:00
Middle East and North AfricaThursday!!
Hi Everyone. Boiling hot here in DC today. Tomorrow afternoon I'm going to New York with my husband for the weekend. I'm trying to plan stuff for us to do for the 2 days we'll be there. His Brother and sister in law live there but will be working all weekend and I don't plan to sit in the apartment all weekend long. We're thinking about going to Coney Island but I have a feeling it will be loaded wiht people. We've seen some stuff (quite a bit actually) but I was thinking of taking him to Ellis Island. I think it would be interesting for him to see how my family came here and the difference between his immigrant situation and those of the past. Other suggestions welcome smile.gif
MrsAmeraFemaleMorocco2009-06-25 08:58:00
Middle East and North Africawrite Arabic without an Arabic keyboard
Very cool!
MrsAmeraFemaleMorocco2009-06-25 08:51:00
Middle East and North AfricaFirst Jobs in the US for MENA SOs
There is a demand for Arabic translators esp with contracting companies BUT for most of them you need 1) to be a USC 2) to have a very high level of spoken AND written English. Hubby is up for Citizenship in late August and if all pans out this is something he plans to apply for. ESP in the DC area, there are so many embassies and govt agencies that it's a good gig smile.gif
MrsAmeraFemaleMorocco2009-06-10 10:59:00
Middle East and North Africaalgeria K1 visa... this is a problem
Get married in Algeria and file for a spouse visa.
MrsAmeraFemaleMorocco2009-06-16 10:58:00
Middle East and North AfricaAre Muslims in America Unfriendly?
Oooh also - for the dreaded "Oh where are you from" question. I've taken to responding "Wisconsin!" like it's an exotic foreign location - simply out of irriation that NO ONE who asks that questions expects you to say somewhere in the United States
MrsAmeraFemaleMorocco2009-06-26 12:20:00
Middle East and North AfricaAre Muslims in America Unfriendly?
I think it's sort of hit and miss. When we lived in a small town in the Midwest ALL the Muslims were very friendly, however many had lived in the US for 10+ years and were Arab. It was the rest of the population that was not so friendly. I would hardly ever get a hello out of a non-Muslim. Now that we live in a big city with a huge Muslim population I feel like it's the opposite. Everyone else is very comfortable with Muslims (for the most part) and they don't think twice about talking with you any differently. It's HARD to get "in" with the Muslim community. I sometimes feel like high school all over again. We have just become "in" with a group of Moroccans - all who are friends and have been here for awhile.

@Umm - you know I cook just as good as any Moroccan woman (sometimes better if I do say so lol) and even my Moroccan women friends who have eaten my food agree. Recently we were at a bbq and discussing an upcoming get together. They were talking in Arabic and said "oh yea Amanda can bring soda and plates like the single guys" I spoke up right away and said (in English), "Hey I CAN cook Moroccan food - I know you might not think so but I can." They apologized right away and said "oh no we didn't mean that we just didn't want it to be too much for you". (ya right they don't think I can!)

@Bigbear - The whole Arabic thing is a huge issue. I have another friend (in the group I recently talked about) who is American and married to a Moroccan. I am fortunate that I can understand a lot of conversations in Arabic but she can't. When we are at functions together the only language is Arabic. A few of the other women will translate for us sometimes but otherwise forget it. It's really discouraging and makes you feel really alienated and not welcome.
MrsAmeraFemaleMorocco2009-06-26 12:16:00
Middle East and North AfricaFor those who have MENA spouses already in the USA.
Mine is the same as Jenn's - probably has gained 25 lbs since he came 3.5 yrs ago.
MrsAmeraFemaleMorocco2009-06-25 06:41:00
Middle East and North AfricaSummer Reading ~ sizzlin' favorites?
I've seen maybe 2-3 episodes but then I started reading so I stopped watching.
MrsAmeraFemaleMorocco2009-06-03 19:37:00
Middle East and North AfricaSummer Reading ~ sizzlin' favorites?
I'm reading the #1 Ladies Detective Agency. You should check out this site for new books - www.paperbackswap.com I've gotten rid of and gotten a bunch of new books here!
MrsAmeraFemaleMorocco2009-06-03 18:38:00
Middle East and North Africasuspicious quick engagement?
In my opinion there is nothing wrong with your situation. Will you be able to visit again sometime before she comes to the US? Also you may want to provide any information from the study abroad tour - tuition statement or something of the sort just to prove that was legitimate. Best wishes!!!
MrsAmeraFemaleMorocco2009-07-07 07:41:00
Middle East and North AfricaQuestions about vacations
Jenn beat me to it but for most Caribbean countries all that is needed for a GC holder is the GC and their national passport - specifically for cruises. Some countries have different requirements for air entries.
MrsAmeraFemaleMorocco2009-07-15 07:57:00
Middle East and North AfricaArab American Demographics
During the immigration rush of the early 1900's there were a lot of Arabs that were coming into the US particularly from Syria/Lebanon and that area which was considered Eastern Europe at the time.
In 1921, Congress enacted a law limiting annual immigration to the US to 350,000 people per year. Each year, European nations could send to the US a number equal to 3 percent of its nationals who were in the US in the year 1910. In 1924, Congress amended the immigration law and reduced the number of immigrants to 150,000, and the quota to 2 percent, and the base year to 1890. This law favored immigration from nations like Great Britain, but discriminated against central and eastern European nations like Poland, Russia and Syria.

There was a big build up of immigrants from that part of the world, but then it was virtually shut off until the immigration system was reworked in the 60's and 70's.
MrsAmeraFemaleMorocco2009-07-16 09:51:00
Middle East and North AfricaIts Friday!!!
That's what I was thinking too Jackie....ruh row....

Overcast and gloomy here - headed to VA beach tomorrow and I hope it clears up!
MrsAmeraFemaleMorocco2009-07-17 11:55:00
Middle East and North AfricaHaram in Islam to profess love publicly
Where did this come from? And who died and made this dude the judge and jury?
MrsAmeraFemaleMorocco2009-07-21 12:28:00
Middle East and North AfricaMissing you so much
Syrianlion - DON"T READ IT!!! If you don't like it no one is making you stay on this board and read it. Jealousy is a bad thing I suggest you go stumble off to your own corner and wallow in your misery.
MrsAmeraFemaleMorocco2009-07-21 12:30:00
Middle East and North AfricaThursday!
My husand and I used to really go back and forth about bills/food/cost of living stuff. It led to me "fibbing" about how much I was spending and where the money was going. But now for whatever reason he has really backed off. I think it's his realization that I really am/was doing whatever I could to save money. Clipping coupons, not eating lunches out, getting cheaper versions of things etc. I must admit things are so much nicer and mroe calm now that I can be completely honest and he doesn't flip out.
MrsAmeraFemaleMorocco2009-07-23 14:36:00
Middle East and North AfricaDoes anyone else feel this way?
We are going on 4 years of marriage. There are success stories (we definetely have our struggles!) but like someone else said, a lot of people who end up being used had warning signs of the relationship and chose to ignore them. Also I think there is something to be said for just a rough adjustment. Some people get here and just REALLY hate it, and/or can't handle the stress of the change of country/spouses expectations/work expectations/family at homes expectations/step children (possibly), etc. They may have thought it would work out but in the end it's not going to. I think that some guys stay in those relationships to at least get the GC out of it. They didn't go into it with those intentions but couldn't handle the stress of the situation.

There definetely are users who go into it with bad intentions but I would like to think that the bulk fall somewhere in between.

Just remember ot keep your head open and use it to think and not your heart - becauce a heart can be decieving, and can hear whatever you want it to hear, but when you really use your head you might get a different conclusion. smile.gif
MrsAmeraFemaleMorocco2009-07-17 09:02:00
Middle East and North AfricaTranslating Docs here in the US
Wow that really sucks, can he go and take his MN drivers test and avoid the hassle?

I know in WI my husband drove for a year on his Moroccan license, no translations needed. He even got pulled over once, ticketed, we appealed and it was fine - the police just didn't know what to do (po-dunk WI town...)
MrsAmeraFemaleMorocco2009-07-21 08:06:00
Middle East and North AfricaTranslating Docs here in the US
Unfortunately that's about the going rate. We had 3 documents translated here (Washington DC) and it cost $125 - they were 2 birth certificates (very very minimal writing) and our civil marriage certificate - again very little writing. Translators charge by the word - the longer the document the more expensive. If you can - get it translated in Morocco - cheaper to have someone there translate and mail it to you then to pay over $100 to have it done in the US.

can I ask why you need the DL translated?
MrsAmeraFemaleMorocco2009-07-20 16:27:00
Middle East and North AfricaAnyone have trouble from their ex's with taking your children to North Africa?
My situation is a little different as my son’s father had no relationship to either of us at all until recently (my son is almost 6) this is a sticky situation anyway as my husband is my son’s “father” having raised him since he was less than a year old. However because he was not involved I had no problems obtaining his passport (only my name was on the birth cert) and taking him to Morocco with me. He was young when we went, 1 ½ yrs old so there were challenges but he ate most everything with no issues. Now that his biological father has taken an interest, whole other thorn in my side, I specifically had it written into our custody agreement that I am allowed to take him to Morocco for up to 31 days with no written consent necessary. If we go for longer then it is needed. This was a tough point to push with him but I am glad that I did. Like I said our situation is different and my honest feelings are that he doesn’t really have a whole h*** of a lot to say about any of it since he’s been absent for the last 6 years and should merely be thanking his lucky stars at this point I even let him see my son. But, anyway.

Our other son will be 3 in December. Last year he went to Morocco with his dad for almost a month. I went at the end of the trip for about 10 days and flew back with them. This year he again went with his dad for a month. My husband came home but my son is staying until mid-August, when he will be coming back with his nanny who is in Morocco with her kids for the summer. I completely trust my husband and his family and feel that if something were going to happen it would happen with or without me present. My son is having a fantastic time getting to know his cousins and my husband’s family and there is no way that I would be able to take that extended of a vacation from work. We hope to send them both together in a year or two for the summer. I really think that at least for us it’s important for our kids to know both sides of their family. I know that I would trust either of them with my parents/ grandparents here and feel like my husband’s family deserves the same opportunity to get to know them.

MrsAmeraFemaleMorocco2009-07-25 07:52:00
Middle East and North AfricaFrance to ban Burqas/Niqab in Public?
Fair enough - but a woman living in a devloped nation wouldn't suffer from a poor diet most likely- therefore what is the basis for the vitamin deficiency. Also it has been shown that vitamins through supplements are not as good as acquring them naturally through nature or food.

QUOTE (CnT4ever @ Jun 25 2009, 10:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Ahmeds Girl @ Jun 25 2009, 09:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Desperate? Can you prove she is lying? I had never considered that rickets would be an issue, so that part of the article surprised me too. Perhaps a doctor can give an opinion?


Can't prove she's lying and can't prove she's telling the truth either. I just think that something which is normally fixed by a change in diet is a desperate way to argue the banning of an article of clothing.

Rickets
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rickets
Classification and external resources
ICD-10 E55.
ICD-9 268
DiseasesDB 9351
MedlinePlus 000344
eMedicine ped/2014
MeSH D012279

Rickets is a softening of bones in children potentially leading to fractures and deformity. Rickets is among the most frequent childhood diseases in many developing countries. The predominant cause is a vitamin D deficiency, but lack of adequate calcium in the diet may also lead to rickets (cases of severe diarrhea and vomiting may be the cause of the deficiency). Although it can occur in adults, the majority of cases occur in children suffering from severe malnutrition, usually resulting from famine or starvation during the early stages of childhood. Osteomalacia is the term used to describe a similar condition occurring in adults, generally due to a deficiency of vitamin D.[1] The origin of the word "rickets" is probably from the Old English dialect word 'wrickken', to twist. The Greek derived word "rachitis" (meaning "inflammation of the spine") was later adopted as the scientific term for rickets, due chiefly to the words' similarity in sound. In many languages it is known as "English disease".

Epidemiology
Those at higher risk for developing rickets include:
Breast-fed infants whose mothers are not exposed to sunlight
Breast-fed infants who are not exposed to sunlight
Individuals not consuming fortified milk, such as those who are lactose intolerant
Individuals with red hair have been speculated to have a decreased risk for rickets due to their greater production of vitamin D in sunlight.
If a mother has low vitamin D levels during pregnancy, her infant may have rickets at birth; this is often referred to as Congenital Rickets.

Etiology
Vitamin D is required for proper calcium absorption from the gut. In the absence of vitamin D, dietary calcium is not properly absorbed, resulting in hypocalcemia, leading to skeletal and dental deformities and neuromuscular symptoms, e.g. hyperexcitability. Foods that contain vitamin D include butter, eggs, fish liver oils, margarine, fortified milk and juice, and oily fishes such as tuna, herring, and salmon.

A rare X-linked dominant form exists called Vitamin D resistant rickets.


Presentation

Radiograph of a two-year old rickets sufferer, with a marked genu varum (bowing of the femurs) and decreased bone opacity, suggesting poor bone mineralization.Signs and symptoms of rickets include:

Bone pain or tenderness
dental problems
muscle weakness (rickety myopathy or "floppy baby syndrome" or "slinky baby" (where the baby is floppy or slinky-like))
increased tendency for fractures (easily broken bones), especially greenstick fractures
Skeletal deformity
Toddlers: Bowed legs (genu varum)
Older children: Knock-knees (genu valgum) or "windswept knees"
Cranial, spinal, and pelvic deformities
Growth disturbance
Hypocalcemia (low level of calcium in the blood), and
Tetany (uncontrolled muscle spasms all over the body).
Craniotabes (soft skull)
Costochondral swelling (aka "rickety rosary" or "rachitic rosary")
Harrison's groove
Double malleoli sign due to metaphyseal hyperplasia
Widening of wrist raises early suspicion, it is due to metaphysial cartilage hyperplasia.[1]
An X-ray or radiograph of an advanced sufferer from rickets tends to present in a classic way: bow legs (outward curve of long bone of the legs) and a deformed chest. Changes in the skull also occur causing a distinctive "square headed" appearance. These deformities persist into adult life if not treated.

Long-term consequences include permanent bends or disfiguration of the long bones, and a curved back.


Diagnosis
A doctor may diagnose rickets by:

Blood tests:
Serum calcium may show low levels of calcium, serum phosphorus may be low, and serum alkaline phosphatase may be high.
Arterial blood gases may reveal metabolic acidosis
X-rays of affected bones may show loss of calcium from bones or changes in the shape or structure of the bones.
Bone biopsy is rarely performed but will confirm rickets.

Treatment and prevention
The treatment and prevention of rickets is known as antirachitic.

Diet and sunlight

Cholecalciferol (D3)
Ergocalciferol (D2)Treatment involves increasing dietary intake of HGH, phosphates and vitamin D. Exposure to ultraviolet B light (sunshine when the sun is highest in the sky), cod liver oil, halibut-liver oil, and viosterol are all sources of vitamin D.

A sufficient amount of ultraviolet B light in sunlight each day and adequate supplies of calcium and phosphorus in the diet can prevent rickets. Darker-skinned babies need to be exposed longer to the ultraviolet rays. The replacement of vitamin D has been proven to correct rickets using these methods of ultraviolet light therapy and medicine.

Recommendations are for 400 international units (IU) of vitamin D a day for infants and children. Children who do not get adequate amounts of vitamin D are at increased risk of rickets. Vitamin D is essential for allowing the body to uptake calcium for use in proper bone calcification and maintenance.

Supplementation

Sufficient vitamin D levels can also be achieved through dietary supplementation and/or exposure to sunlight. Vitamin D3 (cholecalciferol) is the preferred form since it is more readily absorbed than vitamin D2. Most dermatologists recommend vitamin D supplementation as an alternative to unprotected ultraviolet exposure due to the increased risk of skin cancer associated with sun exposure. Note that in July in New York City at noon with the sun out, a white male in tee shirt and shorts will produce 20,000 I.U Vitamin D from 20 minutes of non-sunscreen sun exposure.[citation needed]

According to the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP), infants who are breast-fed may not get enough vitamin D from breast milk alone. For this reason, the AAP recommends that infants who are exclusively breast-fed receive daily supplements of vitamin D from age 2 months until they start drinking at least 17 ounces of vitamin D-fortified milk or formula a day.[2] This requirement for supplemental vitamin D is not a defect in the evolution of human breastmilk, but is instead a result of the modern-day infant's decreased exposure to sunlight (i.e. breast-fed infants who receive adequate sun exposure are less likely to develop rickets, though supplementation may still be indicated in the winter, depending on geographical latitude).


MrsAmeraFemaleMorocco2009-06-25 10:02:00
Middle East and North AfricaFrance to ban Burqas/Niqab in Public?
I wasn't writing my post in response to any one statement or person who wrote here, but as a cumulative observation having been a part of this site for 4 years. I have no problem with dressing modestly - I wear hijab, and always dressed modestly before I decided to wear hijab. The core of my argument is that France is not outside of their sovereign rights to impose whatever they wish. I don't think that their attempts are a brazen attack against Muslim women but the desire to protect their heritage. (They even banned English words some time ago if I remember correctly - in order to preserve the language.) My point is Why is it ok for Islamic nations to impose their moral and religious values on minorities in their country but not ok for western or any other nations to do the same?

Also burqa/niqab - I know people that wear it including a very dear friend, it makes life harder it isolates you and from what I've seen these things are more an imposed cultural or religious "belief" than a choice the woman makes. I also have a friend from Yemen who while in Yemen must wear niqab to satisfy her family but when outside of Yemen does not. This just goes to show that the percieved cultural/religious honor has more to do with that kind of veiling than a personal choice.
MrsAmeraFemaleMorocco2009-06-25 09:57:00
Middle East and North AfricaFrance to ban Burqas/Niqab in Public?
I guess you can look at it like depravation of rights everywhere. I just dislike when people on here think all the ME countries are "right" in their approach to life and preserving their way of life however when other countries do the same thing people are aghast. If this is French law then that's the law. I think it's idiotic that you have to wear a chador in KSA or that women can't drive, and that you have to veil in Iran, or are acid attacked in Afghanistan for showing an ankle. How come no one is outraged at that? Women are more free in France or just about any other country on Earth than those two places. And as I previously said if they don't like French laws France isn't holding them hostage.
MrsAmeraFemaleMorocco2009-06-25 08:48:00
Middle East and North AfricaFrance to ban Burqas/Niqab in Public?
That article was exactly what I was trying to articulate.
MrsAmeraFemaleMorocco2009-06-24 07:35:00