Forum	Title	Content	Member	Sex	Country	Date/Time
Philippines	What's the most memorable event in your sporting life?	The best I can come up with is completing 'The Cannery' mission in Wolfenstein 2009. That was one tought dude, my hands were shaking when I finally took him out. -Phil QUOTE (El Ilocano @ Nov 21 2009, 07:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I presume most of us here are into sports, either as a player participant or as a fanatico. And as such, there should be that one particular moment or event that gave us the thrill of all thrills and will forever be etched in our memory. For example, our buddy from East Texas and his wife would probably never forget that day when the missus caught her first bass. Or, perhaps that day when the Stanford Cardinal roughed up the once mighty USC Trojans, a day that my friend will always remember as he was in the bleachers at the L.A. Coliseum, so was his son who plays the saxophone with the band from Palo Alto. Mine happened 25 years ago, at Bonita Golf Club outside San Diego. With a 7-iron in my hands, I made a hole-in-one at the 160-yard 9th hole. Wow, what a memorable sensation that was! As if I just kissed my first date when I was fifteen. That was my first ace, to be followed by another one 24 years later at Eagle Glen GC in Corona, Calif. How about you?	PhiLandShiR	Female	Philippines	2009-11-30 13:53:00
Philippines	Foods from Philippines?	Sending things from the Phils to US would be really costly. Finding a source in the US on the internet would be a lot cheaper. -Phil QUOTE (mybaby @ Nov 25 2009, 10:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I am two months and one day pregnant now and I am really craving the "danguet fish" in the Philippines. Lots and lots of food cravings like turon, budbod (in visaya) I don't know the tagalog of it,orange na buko,palamig yong maraming kulay,halo-halo nang Ice castle,gulaman,piritong isda talagang danguet. ,I got a lot of foods going on inside my head and very frustrating it's because most of them are not here. Any suggestions if they can send it to me?I looked at the asian stores already here in Indianapolis,but really nothing Anyone here tried receiving foods from the Philippines? Is it possible for them to send it to me? Just wondering if maybe someone had experienced the same thing. How did they send it,what do they used to do it? Thanks a lot..	PhiLandShiR	Female	Philippines	2009-11-25 11:54:00
Philippines	Ana's Interview Date	Its always best to jump on the spelling errors as soon as you can. Congrats on your interview and good luck!! -Phil QUOTE (Joseph & Ana @ Nov 30 2009, 09:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Anyway.. I just called back and had them change it. Which involved cancelling her interview and then scheduling it for the exact same time. whew!	PhiLandShiR	Female	Philippines	2009-12-01 10:33:00
Philippines	Travel to the USA once you have the visa	QUOTE (tallcoolone @ Dec 1 2009, 08:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> My wife is flying back to PI this month. I hope she has a nice filght. QUOTE (tallcoolone @ Dec 1 2009, 08:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> She will bring back some Coach / Louis Vutton Luggage from PI. Maybe.... if its not fake.... QUOTE (tallcoolone @ Dec 1 2009, 08:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Bring back some SmartBros International Sims Cards Why would she need more than one card? -Phil	PhiLandShiR	Female	Philippines	2009-12-01 10:37:00
Philippines	Travel to the USA once you have the visa	Unless you want to pay extra for baggage she will be limited to 2 bags plus a carry on bag that must fit either under the seat or in the overhead baggage bins. There is a weight limit but I think it varies from airline to airline... You will need to call youe specific airline to get the numbers. Good Luck!! -Phil QUOTE (James & Erma @ Nov 30 2009, 12:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> My Fiancee's interview is next Tuesday, December 8th. Of course we are very hopeful of being approved, so she wanted me to ask others about their experience of coming to the USA to live. She wants to know what the limit is on the amount of luggage she can carry here, as she is thinking of how many clothes should she bring? What did some of you do? Is there a weight limit on the luggage she can carry? Thanks for any ideas, suggestions. James and Erma	PhiLandShiR	Female	Philippines	2009-11-30 13:32:00
Philippines	I dont believe half of the timelines here...	Please check our timeline. It is as accurate as I can make it. We waited for a very long time before we finally got our NOA2. Some go fast and others go slow but they all finish. Hang in there!!! -Phil QUOTE (only4mikki @ Oct 1 2009, 06:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I have been keeping an eye on peoples timelines here...how is it possible apply in August, NOA1 , then NOA 2 Also August...and approval? Also How is it correct that K1 Visas are faster to approve than people filing for K3, married already? this is upside down... Our case has not been touched since the first time back in June 6th, for the I130, and June 26 for the I129f..nothing, no status change, no updates, no info, nothing...until your past 5 months there is nothing anyone will tell you...this system is broken...over 2 million applications a year, they need HELP!...we are taking the legal route yet we must wait in LIMBO, with nobody telling us anything, as people walk across our borders...this is so frustrating, God, how I miss my wife... Why can nothing be done? Don't we as fee payers and tax payers pay these people salary? does congrees work for us? Oh, how frustrating and heartbreaking is this process...grown men brought to tears... M and M	PhiLandShiR	Female	Philippines	2009-10-05 14:41:00
Philippines	I learned something new today	Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary states that the word "yo-yo" probably derives from the northern Philippine Ilokano language word "yóyo". Many other sources including Panati's Extraordinary Origins of Everyday Things say that "yo-yo" was a Tagalog word supposedly meaning "come-come" or "return". It is sometimes asserted that the yo-yo was a weapon in the Philippines. Others assert this is an urban legend and that stories about how the yo-yo was a Filipino weapon did not originate in the Philippines. Lucky Meisenheimer, author of "Lucky's Collectors Guide to 20th Century Yo-Yos - History and Values", characterizes this as popular but fabricated. -Phil QUOTE (Jasman0717 @ Dec 1 2009, 01:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> D.F. Duncan Sr. was the co-patent holder of a four-wheel hydraulic automobile brake and the marketer of the first successful parking meter. He was also the genius behind the first premium incentive where you sent in two cereal box tops and received a toy rocket ship. However, Duncan is best known for being responsible for promoting the first great yoyo fad in the United States. Duncan was not the inventor of the yoyo; they have been around for over twenty-five hundred years. In fact the yoyo or yo-yo is considered the second oldest toy in history, the oldest being the doll. In ancient Greece, the toy was made of wood, metal and terra cotta. The Greeks decorated the two halves of the yoyo with pictures of their gods. As a right of passage into adulthood Greek children often gave up their toys and placed them on the family alter to pay homage. Around 1800, the yoyo moved into Europe from the Orient. The British called the yoyo the bandalore, quiz or the Prince of Wales toy. The French used the name incroyable or l'emigrette. However, it is a Tagalog word, the native language of the Philippines, and means "come back". In the Philippines, the yoyo was used as a weapon for over 400 hundred years. Their version was large with sharp edges and studs and attached to thick twenty-foot ropes for flinging at enemies or prey. Close up of a yo-yo Getty Images More Images (3)<DIV id=sidebar>zSB(3,3) Sponsored Links Free Inventor's Info KitWe Can Help Get Your Idea Patented Packaged & Sold. Request Free Info.www.InventionHome.com YoYoExpert Yo-Yo StoreLearn Yo-Yo Tricks and buy some of the most advanced yo-yos ever!yoyoeXpert.com We'll Sell Your InventionYou provide the idea. We'll protect and market it for you. Free info!www.InventionResource.com zob();if(zs	PhiLandShiR	Female	Philippines	2009-12-01 14:20:00
Philippines	I learned something new today	Actually they are popular... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yo-yo -Phil QUOTE (charles! @ Dec 1 2009, 12:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Bob 4 Anna @ Dec 1 2009, 12:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Darnell @ Dec 1 2009, 11:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ya, was a tool for attack, first, yes? Yep, originally used for hunting. A skilled striker could render the target game (like a wild pig) unconscious with a single blow to the head! good thing they are not popular in the usa, otherwise we'd have to get a license to carry them concealed.	PhiLandShiR	Female	Philippines	2009-12-01 14:04:00
Philippines	I learned something new today	Countless households across America would be stunned to know they have bought weapons for their children to play with... I learned 2 things today! -Phil QUOTE (Bob 4 Anna @ Dec 1 2009, 12:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Darnell @ Dec 1 2009, 11:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ya, was a tool for attack, first, yes? Yep, originally used for hunting. A skilled striker could render the target game (like a wild pig) unconscious with a single blow to the head!	PhiLandShiR	Female	Philippines	2009-12-01 13:31:00
Philippines	I learned something new today	I think the Filpino people lost out big time here.... 1929: Yo-Yos (Duncan) Hotel bellhop Pedro Flores, attracted a crowd playing a traditional Filipino game with an object on a string during his lunch break, he started the Flores Yo-Yo Company. (Incidentally, "yo-yo" means "come-come" or "come back.") Could have been a major money maker for some smart Filipino.... -Phil	PhiLandShiR	Female	Philippines	2009-12-01 11:36:00
Philippines	Small Misunderstandings May Result In A Lifetime Of Regrets	It is indeed a very sad story. I think a very valid message to also be learned is that sooner or later, a man must choose. This man in this story, chose his mother before his wife. I think this is the truely sad part, for if he had chosen his wife there may have been a very different ending....	PhiLandShiR	Female	Philippines	2009-09-29 16:42:00
Philippines	Hey, Philippine VJers!	Sooo... you assume she will not be staying long?? QUOTE (MikeMc @ Nov 24 2009, 11:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Welcome! I hope you had a good flight and enjoy your stay	PhiLandShiR	Female	Philippines	2009-11-24 13:06:00
Philippines	K1 visa interview	Good luck!! Make sure your hon has all the papers needed and is well informed about you and your life. With that, its all over but the shouting -Phil QUOTE (MayaLar @ Dec 3 2009, 09:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hi everyone! Anyone here scheduled for DEC17 interview at 7am? Will be glad to know someone with same schedule.... And wishing all luck December interviewees!!!!....and to others who will have their own schedule soon!!!! May the Lord guide us on our day!	PhiLandShiR	Female	Philippines	2009-12-03 10:59:00
Philippines	interview pointers	Be honest in all your replies. Speak up if you can't hear the questions. Now is not the time to be shy. -Phil QUOTE (ladyinpink @ Dec 1 2009, 08:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (lotieganda @ Dec 1 2009, 03:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hi all, just scheduled my fiance's interview.. just wonderin if any of you guys had any pointers to give out???? thank you all. be confedent just make it sure all the documents is complate and organize the documents during her interview when the consul ask the question answer immediately eye to eye contact good luck	PhiLandShiR	Female	Philippines	2009-12-01 10:29:00
Philippines	In the Philippines, are rules considered to be suggestions?	Oh... But your post shows you are Removing Conditions.... -P QUOTE (jsnearline @ Dec 3 2009, 01:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (PhiLandShiR @ Dec 3 2009, 11:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You do understand that your wife can't petition anyone unless she is a US Citizen... Neither can you for that matter... This item might solve all the troubles... -Phil My wife is a US citizen already and her mom knows that. That's why she's bugging us about it.	PhiLandShiR	Female	Philippines	2009-12-03 14:11:00
Philippines	In the Philippines, are rules considered to be suggestions?	You do understand that your wife can't petition anyone unless she is a US Citizen... Neither can you for that matter... This item might solve all the troubles... -Phil QUOTE (jsnearline @ Dec 3 2009, 12:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> A big part of the problem is that my wife is not willing to say no to her mom directly. She's told her sister to tell things to her mom and asked me to try and explain to her mom why she can't come as an immigrant on a tourist visa. But when she talks to her mom, she gets all wishy-washy and tells her what she wants to hear. I told my wife nicely that she has to put up or shut up. Either she needs to file a petition for her mom now, or she needs to tell her mom in no uncertain terms that it's just not going to happen for the forseeable future. Leading her mom (and her mom's friends here) along while trying to ignore the situation is not going to resolve it. The one possible advantage to my wife of petitioning her mom is that if her mom could then get a job here, my wife would have some help sending money back home. Now it just seems like she's pouring money into a black hole. It's never enough and just one crisis after another. Edited by PhiLandShiR, 03 December 2009 - 01:57 PM.	PhiLandShiR	Female	Philippines	2009-12-03 13:56:00
Philippines	In the Philippines, are rules considered to be suggestions?	I don't think it was his wife causing the problem but rather his mother-in-law. While your suggestion has some truth to it, it does seem a bit... brutal... Marriage is supposed to be a 2 way street. Work things out rather than dump and run after another. Both sides need to come to an understanding. If you are not willing to do this you may find yourself dumping and running your entire life. Not a good option in my eyes... -Phil QUOTE (tallcoolone @ Dec 3 2009, 04:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (bmtrrbt @ Dec 3 2009, 12:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> you really have so much issues with your wife's family...money before and now immigrating here... I have not read your prior post, but if you are having issue like this, then I will make a suggestion. You may not want to hear it, but here it is. If you keep getting slack from your wife, then you may want to consider finding another girl. I would give yourself a few months and set some deadline in your mind, and if your girl don't straigthen up then Divorce her and find another. Life is too short to live with a partner that you are having issues with.	PhiLandShiR	Female	Philippines	2009-12-03 09:39:00
Philippines	packet 3	All of the packet 3 items are now downloaded. Its unlikely you will get more than the email... See the lists of things needed here on VJ. You need to have your tax information for the past 3 years. Copies of your 1040's and W2's, 1099's... Lots of photos, chat logs, intent to marry letters from both of you, your affidavit of support (I-134), and your girl needs to have submitted her application (the I-156) at the local BDO bank office. ( Costs about $132 USD ) Also the I-157 and I-156K There are a bunch more things but thats all I can think of off the top of my head... If you have only a week left before your interview you best get cracking on these!! Do you have the medical completed??? -Phil QUOTE (eMonster @ Dec 3 2009, 11:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> hi guys! i would like to know if its ok that i haven't gotten any packet 3 from the USEM? Its been almost a month since I have scheduled my interview date and its next week already. The lady that I've talked to told me to check the USEM website for the things that I need to do and bring during the interview. They sent me an email confirming my interview date and i just printed it. I'm just curious if there's anything in Packet 3 that I need to send back to USEM before the interview? or is it just a checklist of what I need to bring on my interview? Thank u.. Your replies would be very much appreciated. God bless	PhiLandShiR	Female	Philippines	2009-12-03 13:51:00
Philippines	how to deal with the stress of this journey!!!	I played Guild Wars about 4 hours a day keeping my sanity. I built a keggerator in my garage that also helped a great deal... Do find some kind of hobby, aside from drinking a lot of beer... -Phil QUOTE (nowhereman @ Dec 3 2009, 12:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (charlie&pam @ Dec 3 2009, 12:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hi all!!!!....I was just looking for some advice and Ideas on hold to handle the stress durring this process.....Personally it has been becomming harder and harder for me....Please dont judge me but I have been drinking more and more .....snapping at my employees and worse of all blowing things WAY out of proportion with Pam and loosing my mind over the littlest things !!!! please help me with some idea's on a way to relax..... I played lots of World of Warcraft & drank lots of beer... often at the same time	PhiLandShiR	Female	Philippines	2009-12-03 13:37:00
Philippines	Embassy approval to arrival in the USA timeline.	I don't think there is an expiration on CFO, I could be wrong... you will just need to make 2 trips. Go ahead and file your I-129F. You will have a lot of time before its approved. Use this time for your girl to get all the papers she needs. Birth Cert, NBI, CENOMAR, spelling corrections, etc.... You also have a lot of papers you need to also get completed... IRS 1040's, W2's, 1099's, I-134, I-156(K)(157), Letter of Intent to Marry( with original signatures ) .... etc... Use these tasks to keep both of you busy and sane... -Phil QUOTE (Angel and Gendy @ Dec 3 2009, 02:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (tallcoolone @ Dec 3 2009, 01:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Philippines Govt. will make her do CFO Seminar and get a stamp before she can board a plane and leave PI. Kinda like the old communist Russia We are already making plans for her to take the CFO, are we jumping the gun?	PhiLandShiR	Female	Philippines	2009-12-03 16:21:00
Philippines	any pinay here in El Paso Tx	Have you spent any large amount of time driving the back roads in the Philippines??? I have. The basic rules I have determined are: 1: Lines?? Oh those... don't they make the road look nice? A 2 lane road does not mean you can't have 4 across.... 2: Blind mountain corners? What do you mean I can't pass?? Just because you can't see oncoming traffic is no excuse not to pass. For that matter, even if you can see them its ok cause they will move. 3: Only two on a bike?? Can't make any money hauling only 2 people. If there is a peg or a flat spot jump on!! And the best one: 4: Accident Prone Road. What? You mean the driver is responsible for this?? All this being said... I saw some of the best extreamly high density driving while in Baguio. Cars and Jitneys with only inches between bumpers moving through intersections completely packed and never a scratch or a bump. I was impressed. I also recall seeing 3 traffic signals... none of which were powered on... not even sure they had light bulbs... All in all, some of the drivers I saw while in province were better than many I fight with here in the US, everyday, on my way to work. -Phil QUOTE (Ndrangeta_one @ Nov 30 2009, 06:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (PhiLandShiR @ Nov 30 2009, 05:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Very true but the roads in Texas are much better than those in Phils so traveling greater distances is much more simple. Yea...RIGHT...have you seen how those TEXAN drive on those roads? Especially the one with the BOAT hooked in the back of their trucks.....	PhiLandShiR	Female	Philippines	2009-12-01 13:58:00
Philippines	any pinay here in El Paso Tx	Very true but the roads in Texas are much better than those in Phils so traveling greater distances is much more simple. -Phil QUOTE (tallcoolone @ Nov 30 2009, 01:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yea ,But Texas is about 3 times the size of Philippines. I'am in Dallas, Texas I might be closer to you in Iowa than El Paso QUOTE (PhiLandShiR @ Nov 30 2009, 01:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Good Luck on your search. There are many people here from Texas. -Phil QUOTE (don and jen @ Nov 30 2009, 01:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hi there, im looking for a filipina here in El Paso, my wife just got in here and doesnt have any friend yet. If you are here in town feel free to give me message. tnxz	PhiLandShiR	Female	Philippines	2009-11-30 17:36:00
Philippines	any pinay here in El Paso Tx	Good Luck on your search. There are many people here from Texas. -Phil QUOTE (don and jen @ Nov 30 2009, 01:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hi there, im looking for a filipina here in El Paso, my wife just got in here and doesnt have any friend yet. If you are here in town feel free to give me message. tnxz	PhiLandShiR	Female	Philippines	2009-11-30 14:25:00
Philippines	Our Christmas tree	Shirr did a wonderful job. I was really impressed. All I can claim is putting the angel on the top. By greatwhitenorth at 2009-12-03	PhiLandShiR	Female	Philippines	2009-12-03 16:40:00
Philippines	Custom Clearance	BINGO!!!! there is the problem. When customs sees the word 'cellphone' alarms go off. All they see is another 3000 to 4000 PHP in charges. Never use that word!!! You MIGHT be able to claim the package for a much smaller charge if you can prove that it does not acutally contain a cell phone... maybe... At this point they will not be willing to release it for no charge... -P QUOTE (loveaboo @ Oct 29 2009, 10:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> He said he only used the declaration for cellphone at the drop down menu at fedex website and added that the value is $15 and for personal use. When he checked at fedex website, it's said to be exempted from duties and taxes.	PhiLandShiR	Female	Philippines	2009-10-29 10:19:00
Philippines	Custom Clearance	I must sadly agree... depending on how much they want, it may be cheaper to simple abandon the package and have another one sent but be a bit careful about what is declared... -P QUOTE (loveaboo @ Oct 29 2009, 09:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Additional info, my fiance put that the value is $15 which is true since the $30 prepaid phone package has $15 prepaid load. He also put that the duties and taxes will be billed to sender. Oh well, I have a feeling that the Custom people just wants some money, as always...	PhiLandShiR	Female	Philippines	2009-10-29 10:02:00
Philippines	Custom Clearance	Customs is always a ####### shoot in Manila. Some things can go through with no charges at all and others will cost you thousands... I think it all depends on if the clerk has a bad hair day or not... Exactly how was the phone card declared on the FedEx forms? Did Manila say how much they wanted in fees?? -P QUOTE (loveaboo @ Oct 29 2009, 09:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> My fiance sent me a prepaid phone plus $40 load with total cost of $55 ($30 prepaid phone set + $25 load). It should arrive tomorrow so I can bring it with me during my trip on Nov. 4. Today, my fiance and I both just received an e-mail from Fedex saying that the package was held up at Customs because the importer needs to pay the taxes and duties. Anyone experience this? My fiance said that he put in the package that it's for personal use. Also, I thought that there's a minimum value for the Custom to require payment of duties and taxes and if it's for personal use, it's free of duties and taxes. I've been looking online for the minimum amount and rules and regulations about paying duties and taxes at Customs but I can't find any. Is there anyone here familiar with it? I would really appreciate it. Honestly if the Custom will require me to go to Manila, I'd rather let it there. It would be so much hassle to go to Manila to claim it with the heavy traffic nowadays. But if someone can suggest any idea on how to resolve it, I would really appreciate it. Thanks!!!	PhiLandShiR	Female	Philippines	2009-10-29 09:24:00
Philippines	to add to the stress....lol...has anyone changed there adress?	Also keep your email address current so you can get the email notice. That would alert you to when you might be getting the hard copy in the mail. And, yes, I know that sometimes they never send an email but its better to keep all options up and working. Even filing the CoA forms with the government does not always mean that they send your NOA to the new address. I am not sure if the government form has the Do Not Forward tag on it or not.... -Phil QUOTE (charlie&pam @ Dec 7 2009, 01:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Scott and Mhay @ Dec 7 2009, 11:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I believe you are most concerned with receiving your mail at this point right? You can do it online...just check it out here and see. I am pretty sure you can change your physical address later. https://egov.uscis.g...i/go?action=coa The big thing at this point is that you can receive mail from them. I dont think they care about your physical address. You can update that when you do the 156 & 157 forms later ok that is good then ....just get a po box and go from there I guess	PhiLandShiR	Female	Philippines	2009-12-07 14:54:00
Philippines	Im in shock and I dont know what to do	Interesting thought... How about this one? The legal definition of prostitution varies from state to state, but typically includes language along the following lines: "Prostitution" shall mean the commission by a person of any natural or unnatural sexual act, deviate sexual intercourse, or sexual contact for monetary consideration or other thing of value. A person who engages in, or agrees to engage in, or offers to engage in, sexual penetration or sexual contact or in any sexual conduct or act with another person in return for a fee or in consideration of a pecuniary benefit commits the crime of prostitution. So lets see... "Pecuniary benefit" is benefit in the form of money, property, commercial interests or anything else, the primary significance of which is economic gain to defendant or to any other person or entity in whose welfare he is interested. Hummm.... the immigrants family... his/herself..... How many men on this forum would have adopted the philosophy of 'another fish in the sea' if their SO had said marry me first or no sex on their visit to the Phil's? I bet many would have found another girl... So lets see.... "other thing of value"... like a US citizenship.... married to a US citizen.... Things of value.... hummmm.... I only try to defend the OP's girl. I maintain that simply being a bar girl is not automatically guilty for prostitution and does not mandate answering Yes to the the question at issue. I think a No answer given a lack of police record is acceptable and honest. Perhaps many here should have answered that way but for a fudge factor.... I am done with this thread. If you don't understand my perspective there is little I can do from here. -Phil QUOTE (charles! @ Dec 7 2009, 02:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (PhiLandShiR @ Dec 7 2009, 01:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I do understand your point Charles. And to some degree, I agree... But you must understand that laws ARE an exercise in semantics. This is proven by the very existence of the Judicial Branch... If everyone agreed on what the law says, we would not need them. But people do not agree. That's why we have so many lawsuits... That's why so many people on this very forum disagree all the time. -P QUOTE (charles! @ Dec 7 2009, 01:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (PhiLandShiR @ Dec 7 2009, 01:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Charles, I contend, that its not all that clear. If USCIS meant that a 'bar girl' was not allowed a visa, then they would have stated such. They did not do so. What they did, was choose words that have an amount of 'fudge factor'... -Phil QUOTE (charles! @ Dec 7 2009, 12:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> phil, what webster has to say for a definition is inmaterial. what matters is what uscis says and it's spelled out quite clearly. i think everyone here knows better than to try to "fudge factor" given the potential for a lifetime ban. i'd appreciate it if we don't have an exercise in semantics. i think a vast majority on vj will agree that offering sex for money, or taking money for sex, is prostitution. to try to coat it as less than that by attaching a different name or by trying to give it some imaginary wiggle room is a disservice to the op.	PhiLandShiR	Female	Philippines	2009-12-07 16:21:00
Philippines	Im in shock and I dont know what to do	Well said. -P QUOTE (charlie&pam @ Dec 7 2009, 01:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Can't we all just get along!!!...lol.....well to the OP dude it is your call if this happened years before u were in the picture ....give her props for clearing her conceince.......I am glad it doesnt matter to mine about how many girls I was with before her.....I doesn't matter....LOVE IS LOVE!!!!!......If you love her there shouldn't be a question about it ....U may never feel this way again.........In my eyes it is obvious how much she loves you since she told you and didn't want it to come up in the future and for you to think she was using u!!!!....Dont get me wrong I dont believe anyone should sell their body at all and I do not condone it .....but things in the past are just that the past!!!!!....if you cant deal with your love for her anymore just move on ....but remember you might always tell yourself what if!!!!>>>>and you will be the one dealing with that pain	PhiLandShiR	Female	Philippines	2009-12-07 14:59:00
Philippines	Im in shock and I dont know what to do	I do understand your point Charles. And to some degree, I agree... But you must understand that laws ARE an exercise in semantics. This is proven by the very existence of the Judicial Branch... If everyone agreed on what the law says, we would not need them. But people do not agree. That's why we have so many lawsuits... That's why so many people on this very forum disagree all the time. -P QUOTE (charles! @ Dec 7 2009, 01:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (PhiLandShiR @ Dec 7 2009, 01:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Charles, I contend, that its not all that clear. If USCIS meant that a 'bar girl' was not allowed a visa, then they would have stated such. They did not do so. What they did, was choose words that have an amount of 'fudge factor'... -Phil QUOTE (charles! @ Dec 7 2009, 12:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> phil, what webster has to say for a definition is inmaterial. what matters is what uscis says and it's spelled out quite clearly. i think everyone here knows better than to try to "fudge factor" given the potential for a lifetime ban. i'd appreciate it if we don't have an exercise in semantics.	PhiLandShiR	Female	Philippines	2009-12-07 14:48:00
Philippines	Im in shock and I dont know what to do	Not by the definition of Webster. Not always. Its a subjective definition. Not objective. That is the problem... This is what happens when you try to legislate morality... -P QUOTE (rsn @ Dec 7 2009, 01:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (PhiLandShiR @ Dec 7 2009, 01:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Charles, I contend, that its not all that clear. If USCIS meant that a 'bar girl' was not allowed a visa, then they would have stated such. They did not do so. What they did, was choose words that have an amount of 'fudge factor'... -Phil QUOTE (charles! @ Dec 7 2009, 12:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> phil, what webster has to say for a definition is inmaterial. what matters is what uscis says and it's spelled out quite clearly. By your logic, if we call a prostitute a chocolate sundae, then they are no longer a prostitute. There really isn't much to debate here. "Bar girls" are prostitutes.	PhiLandShiR	Female	Philippines	2009-12-07 14:41:00
Philippines	Im in shock and I dont know what to do	Charles, I contend, that its not all that clear. If USCIS meant that a 'bar girl' was not allowed a visa, then they would have stated such. They did not do so. What they did, was choose words that have an amount of 'fudge factor'... -Phil QUOTE (charles! @ Dec 7 2009, 12:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> phil, what webster has to say for a definition is inmaterial. what matters is what uscis says and it's spelled out quite clearly.	PhiLandShiR	Female	Philippines	2009-12-07 14:16:00
Philippines	Im in shock and I dont know what to do	Well.... according to http://www.merriam-w...nary/prostitute 1 : to offer indiscriminately for sexual intercourse especially for money I offer that even a bar girl does not offer indiscriminately and so as such, does not meet the definition of prostitute. And because of this can answer the question, NO. -P QUOTE (charles! @ Dec 7 2009, 12:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> INA: ACT 212 - GENERAL CLASSES OF ALIENS INELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE VISAS AND INELIGIBLE FOR ADMISSION; WAIVERS OF INADMISSIBILLITY (2) Criminal and related grounds.- (D) Prostitution and commercialized vice.-Any alien who- (i) is coming to the United States solely, principally, or incidentally to engage in prostitution, or has engaged in prostitution within 10 years of the date of application for a visa, admission, or adjustment of status, (ii) directly or indirectly procures or attempts to procure, or (within 10 years of the date of application for a visa, admission, or adjustment of status) procured or attempted to procure or to import, prostitutes or persons for the purpose of prostitution, or receives or (within such 10- year period) received, in whole or in part, the proceeds of prostitution, or (iii) is coming to the United States to engage in any other unlawful commercialized vice, whether or not related to prostitution, is inadmissible. http://www.uscis.gov.../1/2/31?hilite= link in case the one above is truncated by vj	PhiLandShiR	Female	Philippines	2009-12-07 13:52:00
Philippines	Im in shock and I dont know what to do	We are not speaking of misrepresentation. We were speaking of being involved in prostitution and not being arrested. Until a person is arrested, it a moral issue and not a legal one. Ask any judge. Until the law is invoked, its not a legal issue. -P QUOTE (rsn @ Dec 7 2009, 11:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (PhiLandShiR @ Dec 7 2009, 11:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (=FoxyBLUE= @ Dec 7 2009, 09:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes sir, in my opinion....if i have been engaged in a prostitution, and wasn't arrested..then I wouldn't have proofs in NBI or any police records...then I can escape that question easily....(just correct me if imwrong please...hehe) I was referencing FoxyBLUE's comment about this issue. If the law is not involved, its a moral issue not a legal one. -P QUOTE (rsn @ Dec 7 2009, 11:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (PhiLandShiR @ Dec 7 2009, 11:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Also, its not a legal issue UNTIL you are arrested. Before that its simply a moral issue... huh? Some context would be nice here since I'm not sure specifically what you are referring to. I'm pretty sure misrepresentation is a legal issue.	PhiLandShiR	Female	Philippines	2009-12-07 13:00:00
Philippines	Im in shock and I dont know what to do	QUOTE (=FoxyBLUE= @ Dec 7 2009, 09:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes sir, in my opinion....if i have been engaged in a prostitution, and wasn't arrested..then I wouldn't have proofs in NBI or any police records...then I can escape that question easily....(just correct me if imwrong please...hehe) I was referencing FoxyBLUE's comment about this issue. If the law is not involved, its a moral issue not a legal one. -P QUOTE (rsn @ Dec 7 2009, 11:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (PhiLandShiR @ Dec 7 2009, 11:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Also, its not a legal issue UNTIL you are arrested. Before that its simply a moral issue... huh? Some context would be nice here since I'm not sure specifically what you are referring to.	PhiLandShiR	Female	Philippines	2009-12-07 12:38:00
Philippines	Shirr just called	QUOTE (PhiLandShiR @ Sep 22 2009, 04:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (FrombeachParadise @ Sep 22 2009, 03:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (PhiLandShiR @ Sep 22 2009, 02:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well... we had phone service long before you did. You were still experimenting with the pony express when our first lines went in. You would have beat us but you tried using sheep first before ponys but there was too much inbreeding and had to stop. You still got some with the ponys though. It still shows. You can see the horses a$$ in your face if you look close. -P QUOTE (tallcoolone @ Sep 21 2009, 05:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> When did ya;ll get telephone service out in BumFvck Iowa, I figured ya;ll were still on telegraph or Western Union........... talldarkugly...jacka$$ i agree with you..he seems like he's not very happy with other people's happiness.. he is really a JACKA$$!! The more he got freckles in his face the more ugly he is IN and OUT... --FRECKLES!	PhiLandShiR	Female	Philippines	2009-09-22 16:18:00
Philippines	Shirr just called	QUOTE (FrombeachParadise @ Sep 22 2009, 03:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (PhiLandShiR @ Sep 22 2009, 02:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well... we had phone service long before you did. You were still experimenting with the pony express when our first lines went in. You would have beat us but you tried using sheep first before ponys but there was too much inbreeding and had to stop. You still got some with the ponys though. It still shows. You can see the horses a$$ in your face if you look close. -P QUOTE (tallcoolone @ Sep 21 2009, 05:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> When did ya;ll get telephone service out in BumFvck Iowa, I figured ya;ll were still on telegraph or Western Union........... talldarkugly...jacka$$ i agree with you..he seems like he's not very happy with other people's happiness.. he is really a JACKA$$!! The more he got wrinkles in his face the more ugly he is IN and OUT...	PhiLandShiR	Female	Philippines	2009-09-22 16:07:00
Philippines	Shirr just called	Well... we had phone service long before you did. You were still experimenting with the pony express when our first lines went in. You would have beat us but you tried using sheep first before ponys but there was too much inbreeding and had to stop. You still got some with the ponys though. It still shows. You can see the horses a$$ in your face if you look close. -P QUOTE (tallcoolone @ Sep 21 2009, 05:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> When did ya;ll get telephone service out in BumFvck Iowa, I figured ya;ll were still on telegraph or Western Union...........	PhiLandShiR	Female	Philippines	2009-09-22 13:16:00
Philippines	Shirr just called	Holy Cow!! CSC is really on the ball this month. Shirr just called to tell me that she got her Green Card in the mail today!! We only got the notice that it was sent to production just last week. I hope everyone who is waiting for NOA2 gets just as prompt service!!! Phil	PhiLandShiR	Female	Philippines	2009-09-21 16:28:00