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K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresmuch older woman/younger man

Thank you for all your help. It makes things a little clearer now. With everything I've told you do you believe that I have enough evidence to verify the relationship or do you think I need something more?



I am going to say this diplomatic, there was nothing wrong with your evidence whatever happen at the interview between your husband and the interviwer gave them cause to have doubt about his intent in the marriage. Start there.
LIFE'SJOURNEYFemaleJamaica2011-11-30 14:54:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresmuch older woman/younger man

Ok I just want to understand you correctly. If the NOID is given, are you saying that I won't be given the opportunity to give more evidence? This isn't what the immigration consultant told me. He said that if their intention is to deny the Visa that I would be given the oppotunity to give more information to verify the relationship. I also want to know if we have to start the process over will we need to pay all the fees again. I was told there is no expiration date on this type of Visa.



Read Jim responds again:

They were recommending that the approval of the petition be revoked, probably because they suspected the relationship was a sham. They do not return petitions to USCIS without denying the visa. USCIS says they were "asked to review" the returned petition, but what they were asked to do was to revoke the approval of the petition. They're accusing your husband of fraud.

You'll eventually get a notice of their decision. If they decide that they disagree with the consular officer then they'll reaffirm the approval of the petition, and it will be sent back to the consulate for another interview. If they decide that the consular officer is probably right then they'll send you a Notice Of Intent to Revoke (NOIR), and give you a very limited window of time to respond. Depending on the strength of the evidence you respond with, they'll either reaffirm the approval or revoke it. If they revoke the approval then your husband will likely be considered guilty of material misrepresentation.


If USCIS revok4 the petition, then it's as if you never had an approved petition, therefore there would be NO petition to have an expiration date. So you will have to start all over from step 1, filing and paying the correct fees.
LIFE'SJOURNEYFemaleJamaica2011-11-30 14:40:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresmuch older woman/younger man

I'm sorry but I don't know exactly what you are talking about. Will we have to start the whole process over and pay for everything again?



Yes, that is correct, you can only do this after you have an official notice of intent to denie. So, you still have to wait it out.

Edited by LIFE'SJOURNEY, 30 November 2011 - 02:28 PM.

LIFE'SJOURNEYFemaleJamaica2011-11-30 14:27:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresmuch older woman/younger man

Yes we are married. We married in Jamaica on 9/6/2010. I filed the I 130 on Oct. 29, 2010. I really don't know what to do if they deny the Visa...



You will just re-file with more evidence.
LIFE'SJOURNEYFemaleJamaica2011-11-30 14:16:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresmuch older woman/younger man

What is a CR1? I didn't go to his interview and I'm still kicking myself in the rear because I didn't. I really believe it would have been approved if I would have been there.



You are married correct, then that was the type of petition you applied for. Yes, being there may have made a big difference to the outome of the interview.

Edited by LIFE'SJOURNEY, 30 November 2011 - 02:09 PM.

LIFE'SJOURNEYFemaleJamaica2011-11-30 14:08:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresmuch older woman/younger man

I have pages and pages of phone records, emails, pictures of me and him and pictures of me and his family. I have wedding pictures and a wedding video. His family and mine were present at the wedding. I have numerous letters from my family and his family that has actually spent time with us while we were together. I have all my flight information for each trip I made there. I even have pictures that he took of me without my knowledge of me washing my clothes out side his house when I stayed with him for a month. As you, we talk everyday. I have over a years worth of phone logs all highlighted with our calls. We don't text much because he doesn't have the capability to text. I even have a couple in New York that spent a week with us in January that wrote a letter for us. I really don't know what else I have to do or give these people to verify our relationship is real. Did you have any of these problems when you filed? Did he get his Visa on his first interview?



No, I didn't have any of these issues, we didn't have any red flaggs. I went to the interview with my husband,plus when my husband was in the states we lived together for a short period of time.
You'll can allways re-file another CR1, if this one gets revolked.
LIFE'SJOURNEYFemaleJamaica2011-11-30 14:02:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresmuch older woman/younger man

I appreciate your honesty and knowledge pertaining to the information I gave in the prior post. The immigration consultant told me the same thing that you just said but as of right now the Visa hasn't been denied. I have tons of proof that it is a bonafide relationship. I am ready for whatever they ask for. It isn't a scam on our part and I beleive I have evidence of that. Do you by any chance know what they would need to verify the relationship. I just want your advice so I can cross referance with everything I have to make sure I haven't missed anything.


They will need proof that you'll are operating as a married couple. Phone call records, letters from friends and family members on both side. Visitations that aren't stage as vacations but living as husband and wife. Show things being done as common interest and on behalf of each other, marriage is not a one-sided event. There needs to be things done on his side as well, he can write letters to you even if it is in patios. Christmas is coming, he can start there, sending a gift if you are not going to be in JA for Christmas.

When I was filing for my husband in JA, we spoke every day, first thing in the morning, and last at night, and many time more durning the day. Our phone records from rebtel, was over 300 pages. The call may not have been long in interval, but they were many durning the day.

We sent texts all day long, sometime the message was short, but it was showing that we were invovled with each other work and fun time on a daily basis. Again, our situation was different and we meet here in the US, but got married in Jamaica.

Edited by LIFE'SJOURNEY, 30 November 2011 - 01:45 PM.

LIFE'SJOURNEYFemaleJamaica2011-11-30 13:43:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresmuch older woman/younger man

This is one of the reasons I quit corresponding with people on this web site due to lack of knowledge when a question is asked. You seem to be a little different so I would like to communicate with you about this. I contacted an immigration consultant after my husbands interview. He basically told me that they were more than likely questioning if it was a bonafide relationship. He explained that USCIS would contact me to request information to verify the relationship. He also recommended that I go and stay with my husband for a long length of time. I followed his instructions and went for 10 days in June and then left again in the middle of August and didn't return to the states until the middle of September. I have been to Jamaica 5 times in the past year and a half. And for the other person that chimed in about how the Visa was already denied you don't know what your talking about so please do not respond with your garbage opinion because it WASN'T DENIED. I would appreciate any information from anyone has that has had this same issue when they applied.



Okay, I will respond to what the attorney advised to you too, he was trying to give evidence in the future for a bondafide relationship. First, let clear one thing up, it was your husband answers and demeanor at the embassy that gve the CO reason to doubt the marriage. Whatever happen it happen.

Now, you can refer to what has happen to your petition as a return or a denial, but what is factual is that no visa was offered.

Sending the petition back to USCIS for future review can lead to 1 of 2 things, they can review the petition again and request additional evidence, or they can denie it. Now, this is being explained in language that you want it to be, because you fell that you didn't get a straight out denial.

Please go back and read Jim's post, it is right on the money, and he has given you some Good advise. Again, I know all of this is hard, but if you wish to see a good outcome of this in the future I would follow Jim's advise.
LIFE'SJOURNEYFemaleJamaica2011-11-30 13:22:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresmuch older woman/younger man

The OP does not have a denied visa situation, just asking questions about the age gap causing issues when she does apply.


""I am wondering if anyone had a situation similar to mine and went through K-1 visa process (I am not sure we will be doing this but looking into it).""




Jim is correct, Jim replied to cgayle post, not the orginal poster post.

Edited by LIFE'SJOURNEY, 30 November 2011 - 07:55 AM.

LIFE'SJOURNEYFemaleJamaica2011-11-30 07:53:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSending in I129F Before Divorce Final
The race isn't over until you are at the finish line.
LIFE'SJOURNEYFemaleJamaica2012-06-29 18:19:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresOnce i have k1 can i still enter on my b2 or crewman visa?
They will cancel the crew visa aswell. You should be speaking to your employer about this.
LIFE'SJOURNEYFemaleJamaica2012-07-30 09:39:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresStarting K-1 process, but I live abroad
You have too many variables that could not aline correctly,

You will need a job in the US to be able to show support or you will need a co-sponsor.

You should not plan on a particular wedding date until the visa is in hand.

Both of these objectives could take upward to a year.

So your timing to leave Germany to look for employment may have to be adjusted.

Edited by LIFE'SJOURNEY, 15 June 2012 - 05:39 AM.

LIFE'SJOURNEYFemaleJamaica2012-06-15 05:39:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresIs it fair
So what was un-normal about your marriage. The CO can do about any type of comparisons analysis they want, but they must follow the guidelines that are set up to establish how they make their decisions.
LIFE'SJOURNEYFemaleJamaica2012-08-14 09:40:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresHE IS READY BUT THE CHILDREN ARENT...WHAT NOW
When the children are ready, you just inform the Consular and they schedule their appointments. They must do this within a year of the K1 visa being issues. Please search for K2 visa information, there are many disussions about this.
LIFE'SJOURNEYFemaleJamaica2012-08-20 08:40:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresRequirement For POE
From a female perspective, after I have traveled for 12-18 hours flying, a 3 day road trip would be the last thing on my list of things to do. I would only be intrested in looking at the place I would be living and some much needed sleep.

The next week, 3 days traveling around would be nice couples time. Ask her what do she think before you plan.

Sorry for butting in.
LIFE'SJOURNEYFemaleJamaica2012-08-21 19:08:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresOverstay as minor, able to file k-1?
here is your reading material on that

http://www.uscis.gov...000082ca60aRCRD


This is the wavier appliccation
http://www.uscis.gov...00045f3d6a1RCRD

Edited by LIFE'SJOURNEY, 25 August 2012 - 01:11 PM.

LIFE'SJOURNEYFemaleJamaica2012-08-25 13:10:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresis my fiance a fraud?

Absolutely on point.

I meant o say down pack. That accent takes some of them far. LOL
LIFE'SJOURNEYFemaleJamaica2012-08-25 15:52:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresis my fiance a fraud?
Emmit Tx not to sound harsh the same way he got someone to pay for those 7 visitor visa applications, he can convince someone to aid him in this if he felt he need to. But that's for the father to fiqure out if he should choose that route.

I know of men in Jamaica who have it down pat on having multiple womens taken care of them very well from the US, UK, German and Canada.

Edited by LIFE'SJOURNEY, 25 August 2012 - 03:42 PM.

LIFE'SJOURNEYFemaleJamaica2012-08-25 15:38:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresis my fiance a fraud?

Nope i said more after that. But the timelines are good.



I sent U an email to your email address thru VJ
LIFE'SJOURNEYFemaleJamaica2012-08-25 15:29:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresis my fiance a fraud?
What she is saying, you knew up front that he really wanted to come to the US, by the mere facts that he had previously applied for 6 your +1 visitor visa, before you applied for the K1 application.

As you have added more details, mpieces are being filled in.

No advise on relationship to be given/
LIFE'SJOURNEYFemaleJamaica2012-08-25 14:55:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresis my fiance a fraud?

Kristina,
The best advice given here I feel is

1) Focus on you. If you decide that you need more time to know for sure on this man, withdraw the petition and give no reason and let time give you more answers if you need it. If you have reasons to give to Kingston Embassy, report him as fraud and protect those who will come next.

2) 7 tourist visas- I beg to know HOW this man paid for the fees each time? Asking my (Jamaican) husband his first statement was ''well the man must have 3 or 4 or more woman here already supporting him to get here... but won't try to marry him for whatever reason (only applied tourist visa and never K-1 I'm assuming)'' Either that, or he's a rich man? Jamaica (and many other countries) have a very amount of fraud, particularily men making a living off foreign women and eventually making it to their country, maybe four five six women later but they do reach.

3) For your baby, there's nothing wrong with not putting the father's name on the birth certificate. I can speak from personal experience. There's nothing wrong with changing your number and forgetting it all, for the sake of you AND your unborn. The two of you (baby and you) can start fresh with a new life.


I speak from first hand experience and experience that I've seen others go through. Feel free to message me. I hope you find calm in the midst of all the storm.



As I said before.........

Thks, eagle+eyed

Life.. tryin to Pm u.. ?? Not working.



I tired to PM you too, yours is not working either.
LIFE'SJOURNEYFemaleJamaica2012-08-25 09:53:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresis my fiance a fraud?

That's what i meant.. lol.... i know she did a club in Kingston.. but to me. Story doesn't add up well. Maybe its just me. Who would still try to get a visa after 6-7 times of being denied.... nuh mek sense.


LOL, u c why I don't part take in these love relationship stoies. More to it than what is generally posted.

I let the dumb # rollover me. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Life.. tryin to Pm u.. ?? Not working.



Let me ck...
LIFE'SJOURNEYFemaleJamaica2012-08-25 09:39:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresis my fiance a fraud?

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Hold off on the personal attacks against me and the OP,lifejourney. Take it to pm if you need to.
I repeat, all I've asked for is information that is verifiable. If you're going to bring up DNA tests etc that the father might pursue, then back it up with information that he can do so through Jamaican-U.S. courts... That would be useful. How would proving the child is his be useful to his immigrating? He can't use it to get to the U.S. anyways, the child would have to petition IF the child wanted to- after age 21 years. The father can't force the mother to bring it to him in Jamaica via courts.
I truly am curious as to what legal rights he would have from another country, no sarcasm at all here, I think it's an interesting point that wasn't substantiated.
S.



HOLD IT, I have never stated that this father would be using this child for immigration purpose. Jamaican men lay claims to their children, even if they can't even feed them.. They hold to heart a child of theirs is precious, since they relaized that children lives are hard.

Second, I never attached you, it's how YOU read the post.

Third, I am not saying anything to the poster that i wouldn't say to my own sister.

Fourth, yes a court order set forth in a Jamaican court can be brought forth to a US court. The same is vice-versa, a court order set forth in a US court can be brought forth to a Jamaican court.

Fifth, as I stated before the OP can carry-on with her head in the sand, but life has taught me, the un-expected dos always seems to have a way to raise his head.

Sixth, he doesn't need the mother or the child for nother shot at immigration, tourist visit this island on a daily basis. As the saying goes what happens in Jamaica, stays in Jamaica. The OP is just one of many, her relationship could be real.

Power is not in doing something, but knowning that something can happen.

Edited by LIFE'SJOURNEY, 25 August 2012 - 09:21 AM.

LIFE'SJOURNEYFemaleJamaica2012-08-25 09:13:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresis my fiance a fraud?

So when was it decided to let him come on K-1 visa? Knowing he had applied for 6-7 times for visa... wouldn't you think that was suspicious from the get go? Just a lil confused on the story... where did you stay when u were with him etc?



This part of the story everyone seems to have over-looked. It doesn't matter now.

I would ask, where did she met a Kingston man, generally tourists aren't on that side of the island.

Edited by LIFE'SJOURNEY, 25 August 2012 - 08:57 AM.

LIFE'SJOURNEYFemaleJamaica2012-08-25 08:54:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresis my fiance a fraud?

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All I'm asking is that if someone posts saying how the biological father is going to come after her legally, that the poster reference or give some sort of real substance of information as to how that can happen. That would be genuine advice and very useful, she can then be proactive in a real way. Posters should not create more confusion and drama, they should lessen the confusion and fear.
Sera



Sera, the same way a biological father establih paternity in any country, thru DNA. You'll only wants to hear one side stories, in this case the OP has more to think about than just canceling a K1, she is about to have this man's child.

Stop thinking Jamaica is this backward country, everything that can happen in the US, New Zeland, can happen in Jamaica. I am not creating any drama, the poster has created that on her own.

Being proactive is she can no longer just think about herself, she also has to think about what right for her child.

AsI have stated over and over I don't give relationship advise, I am giving her other things she might nees to consider. I leave the relaionship advise to VJ, you'll do such a good job at it.

Edited by LIFE'SJOURNEY, 25 August 2012 - 08:57 AM.

LIFE'SJOURNEYFemaleJamaica2012-08-25 08:51:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresis my fiance a fraud?
Well since we only wants to talk about the nice and good stuff, please delete my posts. When hard knocks are knocking at her door, she should come back and talk to you'll.

I will continue to say this every father have rights, regardless if you'll like it or not.

Her baby daddy may not care or Her baaby DAddy may care.

Edited by LIFE'SJOURNEY, 25 August 2012 - 07:34 AM.

LIFE'SJOURNEYFemaleJamaica2012-08-25 07:31:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresis my fiance a fraud?

I didn't tell her to do anything at all. I'm a straight talker. No need to read anything extra into what I write. "Perhaps" is a word with meaning that leaves open the possibility that everything you think "might" happen, "could" happen. Perhaps you overreacted. Posted Image

Do you see actual "have to's"? If so, what are they? Are they REALLY "have to's" or are they MAY "have to's"? Words have meaning.


Pushbrk the american is me would have agreed with you, but sine being in the Jmaican circle my etes have been opened and I have seen and heard it all.

A mother heartstring is something noone can control.

As I said i have seen this movie before.
LIFE'SJOURNEYFemaleJamaica2012-08-25 07:14:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresis my fiance a fraud?

Perhaps. It depends on the father. However, having a child in the USA does not give father any open door to a visa to come to the USA. I doubt it would come to that but I suppose it's possible for the father to obtain a court order for the mother to bring the child to Jamaica for a visit at some point. It's certainly possible for the mother to obtain a court order for child support. Without court orders though, there are no 'have to's" regarding dealing with the father.


Pushbrk, In you'll prefect world this maybe true, but in the non prefect world, that father may be a part of her nightmare life for the next 18 years.
I only telling it from my perspective,and you can tell from your perspective. Because I can guarantee you they are still communicating while you'll are telling her to run.

I have been to this show before.
LIFE'SJOURNEYFemaleJamaica2012-08-25 07:03:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresis my fiance a fraud?
To those who asked her to tell him she would move there, everything he stated as to why it wouldn't work is true he has spoken the truth on these facts. The rest are relationship issues, those I don't/won't address.
LIFE'SJOURNEYFemaleJamaica2012-08-25 02:31:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresis my fiance a fraud?
K, if he found her to petition for him, why do you think he won't find another YDS USC to petition for him. If he has tried 8 times to get to the US, he will try a 9th time and he may/will succeed. So as I say, that child will tie her to him.

The US and Jamamica does have reciprocity between certain states. Second, you are making an assummumption that he doesn't have any tie to the US, he may have more family in the US than in Jamaica. We don't know any of this, and the OP doesn't either based on what she has posted.

Edited by LIFE'SJOURNEY, 25 August 2012 - 02:20 AM.

LIFE'SJOURNEYFemaleJamaica2012-08-25 02:18:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresis my fiance a fraud?
He has rights as a father, US and Jamaica have reciprocity rights toward custody and childsupport within some states in the US. I really doesn't matter where he lives he has rights as a father.

He has the father has done no know harm toward the child, the parents are at conflict, not child and parent.

As the parent of the child she may have to deal with him for the next 18 years, if ther was no child she could leave him in the wind and hve no follow up. Since there will be a child between the two, they will have to deal with each other.

Edited by LIFE'SJOURNEY, 25 August 2012 - 12:49 AM.

LIFE'SJOURNEYFemaleJamaica2012-08-25 00:45:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresis my fiance a fraud?
You do realize you are carry this man's child, so it's not over that easy. :o :o :o
LIFE'SJOURNEYFemaleJamaica2012-08-25 00:19:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresadopt a child after NOA1
Why adopt if she can sponsor the child as a God parent, since the financce is only looking to provide financial funds toward an education in the far future.

The motive looks to be different than what you have described.
LIFE'SJOURNEYFemaleJamaica2012-08-27 21:37:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresK1 Visa K1 guide question
At a party called 'Naked". TMI, save this for your friends.
LIFE'SJOURNEYFemaleJamaica2012-08-27 19:12:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresFile Returned to USCIS

It appears that you did not file for a K1 visa. Your timeline says I130. The guidelines are different. There are plenty of people on here that have been approved after only meeting once in person.



Maybe you need to read up on the consular reviews for the country your SO is interviweing within to see how they handle limited relationship contacts. I have been on this board long enough to see that one visit in a middle eastern country generally doesn't persuade the CO that the couple has a valid relationship. Again, you can continue down the route you are going, I wish you much success on your journey.

For some countries doing just the minimal just doesn't work.
LIFE'SJOURNEYFemaleJamaica2012-07-22 15:25:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresFile Returned to USCIS

I contacted one of my senator's office last week and today I found out that our file is being sent back to USCIS.The Consular officer says that the relationship was entered soley for immigration. I have only seen him once in 3 years. We are trying to save our money for our future. He had his interview last month and was given a 221G form requesting proof of relationship. He brought hotel receipts, engagment ring receipt,emails, my phone log from my calling card and pictures to the interview. I thought that was enough. In response to the 221G we sent pictures, emails (about 65) , engagment ring receipt (again), envelopes from the mail I sent him.
The only possible red flag I can think of is that I am a lot older than him (about 17 1/2 years) We get along great and the age has never bothered us.

I plan to call USCIS tomorrow or Monday. I also plan on calling my representative in congress. I am doing the right thing by contacting USCIS? I am unsure what to do at this point. I am also considering hiring a lawyer but I thought I would contact USCIS first.

Has anyone else gone through this? What is my best course of action.

Thanks to all





Sorry about this, but wasn't getting the visa your future, not spending time with your SO was a hugh mistake. You can try all of the things listed above, but you must overcome the "the relationship was entered soley for immigration" denial.
LIFE'SJOURNEYFemaleJamaica2012-07-22 07:56:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresFinancial stuff
You are applying for a K1, so you'll will have to provide this information twice, once at the interview, then durning the AOS process. I am only pointing this out since you wrote you don't know this person well. Will she be up for signing on for a 10 year obligation to the US government.
LIFE'SJOURNEYFemaleJamaica2012-09-16 14:22:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresHow to file for K1 when my fiance is in jail?
HSN, the petitioner is a USC, serving time in a US jail. All of this was presented in the orginial post.
LIFE'SJOURNEYFemaleJamaica2012-09-23 08:03:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresHow to file for K1 when my fiance is in jail?
Use his home mailing address, USCIS will find out everything about him when they do a background check.
LIFE'SJOURNEYFemaleJamaica2012-09-23 06:48:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresEmailed Kingston Embassy last week

Here’s the thread on DHL tracking from NVC to US Embassy:

http://www.visajourn...-to-us-embassy/



That is for CR1's.
LIFE'SJOURNEYFemaleJamaica2012-09-25 11:36:00