Forum	Title	Content	Member	Sex	Country	Date/Time
Middle East and North Africa	Avoiding a denial	The Lawyers I have seen comment, and the posts here I have read said that living together is the biggest plus. Has your Lawyer commented?	Boiler	Male	Wales	2012-01-09 14:13:00
Middle East and North Africa	Avoiding a denial	She said he will be leaving soon....	Boiler	Male	Wales	2012-01-09 13:50:00
Middle East and North Africa	Avoiding a denial	I looked at the other posts, he is still here so will have a 10 year ban to deal with. So he will be gone for a few years.	Boiler	Male	Wales	2012-01-09 13:23:00
Middle East and North Africa	Avoiding a denial	You are currently living in Morocco? That would help a lot.	Boiler	Male	Wales	2012-01-09 13:06:00
Middle East and North Africa	So what happens to couples who don't get the visa???	There is an age difference between my husband and I and his mother and father have the same age difference. That is very unusual with regards to this Consulate, normally the women are much older.	Boiler	Male	Wales	2012-01-10 21:15:00
Middle East and North Africa	So what happens to couples who don't get the visa???	I did, she made it very obvious that she was an American. Now admittedly originally the idea was that she was going to move to the UK, things changed. As they often do. I note a distressing lack of flexibility in many of these posts. Somebody has to move eventually, often it seems only the non American. If you are talking about this Consulate then most seem to connect through Social Media, and the ones I use show your location.	Boiler	Male	Wales	2011-12-28 11:45:00
Middle East and North Africa	So what happens to couples who don't get the visa???	It's not a problem for me,but for some others it's misery. Let the govt warn the people about the pros and cons of securing a visa especially when it isnt a definite process meaning once on visas and then the ones who hire lawyers, for something that is indefinite. Boiler you should stay away from EVERYONE with your mentality. Since when has been obtaining a visa every been guaranteed? In case you missed it, the Consulate has a specific warning: http://morocco.usemb...ance-visas.html	Boiler	Male	Wales	2011-12-28 10:11:00
Middle East and North Africa	So what happens to couples who don't get the visa???	then there should be* thorough checking...I'm saying there shouldnt be such an expensive price tag slapped on the pursuit of love and happiness. That's my problem Then stay away from long distance relationships. Edited by Boiler, 28 December 2011 - 09:09 AM.	Boiler	Male	Wales	2011-12-28 09:08:00
Middle East and North Africa	So what happens to couples who don't get the visa???	As for fraudulent marriages then there should thorough checking and due diligence on the part of the govt in finding it and stopping it. So what is your problem. There are no profits from the fees, they are set to recover costs.	Boiler	Male	Wales	2011-12-27 23:08:00
Middle East and North Africa	Think Really Hard Before Marrying Someone from MENA	I guess not every Female thinks that way, there are always exceptions to most rules.	Boiler	Male	Wales	2012-03-13 08:34:00
Middle East and North Africa	Think Really Hard Before Marrying Someone from MENA	My grandparents emigrated when my mother was 12, and whilst my mother never had any adjustment issues my grandparents always kept their traditions even though they lived for another 60 years. I have been in the US for 7 years, and looking back it probably did take me a year to fully get used to things. But there are certain tenets that will never change, you are what you are. Probably a female thing to think that the man you marry is raw material to be moulded into what you want. That is just not the case. My guess here is that the attractions of coming to the US do not include religous/beliefs/culture so those thing will not alter.	Boiler	Male	Wales	2012-03-13 07:13:00
Middle East and North Africa	Think Really Hard Before Marrying Someone from MENA	No	Boiler	Male	Wales	2012-03-04 13:58:00
Middle East and North Africa	Think Really Hard Before Marrying Someone from MENA	I don't have all the facts. I can only report what I"ve seen work in real life in our area. I can say that I see a lot of really mismatched couples on VJ as a whole....women and men that they would not be able to get if it weren't for their blue passport. However, immigrants are not some monolithic group. Sure there are standards but not everyone likes to go along with the status quo. So yes, I think there can be successful non traditional marriages, but I think thats the exception and not the norm. I agree, when you see that exception being the norm your eyebrows raise.	Boiler	Male	Wales	2012-02-27 18:25:00
Middle East and North Africa	Think Really Hard Before Marrying Someone from MENA	I can't say which is the most important characteristic of these relationships. These are the characteristics that all of these successful marriages that I know of share. USA/EGYPT- woman 3 months older, 3 children, 8 years married USA/ALGERIA- man older, 4 children together, 2 from previous marriage, 14 yrs married USA/ALGERIA- man older, 4 children, 9 years married USA/ALGERIA- man 10 years older, 2 children, almost 10 years married -me and my husband USA/ALGERIA-man older, 1 child, 5 years married USA/MOROCCO-man older, 1 child, 6 years married USA/EGYPT- same age, 3 children, 8 years married USA/MOROCCO-same age, no children, 9 years married USA/MOROCCO-man slightly older, 3 children together and 1 from previous marriage, 8 years married USA/BANGLADESH-man older, 2 children, 9 years married USA/BANGLADESH- similar age, 3 children, 6 years married This is just a quick snippet of relationships in our circle that involve mixed marriages. Interestingly enough, the only couple seriously on the verge of divorce is an ALGERIAN/ALGERIAN couple with 4 kids and 12 years of marriage. Things went sour after he lost his job, but it's not a MENA thing. It's a marriage thing. These are not the norm on VJ. usually the woman is significantly older. Often with children from a prior relationship(s).	Boiler	Male	Wales	2012-02-27 18:16:00
Middle East and North Africa	Think Really Hard Before Marrying Someone from MENA	There was a very long thread some time back, about I think Morocco, the lady I think there said it was about 75% from her research.	Boiler	Male	Wales	2012-02-27 12:56:00
Middle East and North Africa	Think Really Hard Before Marrying Someone from MENA	Unfortunately there is a lot more than one other thread.	Boiler	Male	Wales	2012-02-26 09:24:00
Middle East and North Africa	Is there anyone lived my story	Boiler, can you help me out?? Where in your profile does it say you have something against Muslims and Islam? I kept looking and looking, but seem to be too stupid to find it?? The same place where it says I am against Buddhists, Christians, Jews and anybody else I guess? I guess I tend to be sceptical about anybody too involved in a belief system, but that would include Treckies as well. Big Bang Theory excepted. Edited by Boiler, 22 March 2012 - 05:37 PM.	Boiler	Male	Wales	2012-03-22 17:37:00
Middle East and North Africa	Is there anyone lived my story	okk what things i said on here you did not understand,sicne you commented on here means you already understood otehrwise u will not comment,and one anotehr thing i did nto pretend i speak English its my forth language so i do as i can but many understand me on here its enough for me about sorry tell you you did not say anything since you started comment only try critic people i was in your profile you ahev soemthign against Muslim and islam so keep your comment for your self about my English Mr You rather proved my point. I wish you a long and happy marriage.	Boiler	Male	Wales	2012-03-22 12:21:00
Middle East and North Africa	Is there anyone lived my story	Farid why doesnt your Lisa write on here? Most people earnestly wish to help another honest person in need Obviously she is Computer literate and her English may be more understandable..	Boiler	Male	Wales	2012-03-22 11:34:00
Middle East and North Africa	Is there anyone lived my story	I can.	Boiler	Male	Wales	2012-03-22 09:06:00
Middle East and North Africa	Is there anyone lived my story	I think in this case they should look at her being the one to move, at least for a few years. If they want to consider moving to the US they would be in a much better position.	Boiler	Male	Wales	2012-03-21 21:02:00
Middle East and North Africa	Is there anyone lived my story	Cool so if what i brought with me as proof and eveience of our bonafide relationship are the same that already my fainced sent with the petiotion to uscis and got apprvoed i mean evrything why the Co will eturn my case to uscis again then this is the things i did not get and did not understand ,or there is soemhing else they want know as my printfingers to chekc my backroud .if yeah then iu understand hoiw things woirk better now They can issue the visa, or send it back. I doubt if there is much chance of a visa been issued in your current circumstances supplying the same evidence.	Boiler	Male	Wales	2012-03-21 16:35:00
Middle East and North Africa	Is there anyone lived my story	The person you spoke to can not refuse the visa, they can only recommend.	Boiler	Male	Wales	2012-03-21 14:17:00
Middle East and North Africa	Is there anyone lived my story	How do you know its commun for this Consulate ;explain more Just go to the MENA forum.	Boiler	Male	Wales	2012-03-21 00:25:00
Middle East and North Africa	Is there anyone lived my story	what do you ean you try find why the co will aprrove mY Petition,you think all my story is Red Flag??!!!!!!!!! Your case seems a very common one for this Consulate.	Boiler	Male	Wales	2012-03-20 21:26:00
Middle East and North Africa	Is there anyone lived my story	I am trying to find what reason the CO had to revoke your petition. I am trying to find a reason why the CO would approve the petition.	Boiler	Male	Wales	2012-03-18 21:36:00
Middle East and North Africa	NEED JusT Advice !	That would depend on whether it was the male or the female.	Boiler	Male	Wales	2012-05-26 16:10:00
Middle East and North Africa	DO they deport me if my fiance leave me in US?	Absolute classic VJ thread. Congrats.	Boiler	Male	Wales	2012-05-25 17:51:00
Middle East and North Africa	any advice	The age gap is relatively small, that is true.	Boiler	Male	Wales	2012-05-25 22:11:00
Middle East and North Africa	any advice	To be fair your basic scenario is very common for this Consulate. She will find plenty of people in similar situations.	Boiler	Male	Wales	2012-05-25 20:23:00
Middle East and North Africa	any advice	Are you of the same religion?	Boiler	Male	Wales	2012-05-25 20:00:00
Middle East and North Africa	Morocco sex debate rages after imam's death call	If it is God's will that the Dayoute should be killed, what is the problem? God is great.	Boiler	Male	Wales	2012-07-08 09:39:00
Middle East and North Africa	221g in Casablanca Morocco	And many more who did not. Hardly culturally normal.	Boiler	Male	Wales	2012-08-10 23:10:00
Middle East and North Africa	221g in Casablanca Morocco	If you are the male and are 5 or 6 years older, then no that would be normal and not an issue.	Boiler	Male	Wales	2012-08-04 11:19:00
Middle East and North Africa	Waiver for meeting...	Nothing wrong with marrying on a Tourist Visa. There is a whole industry out there. Las Vegas Baby!	Boiler	Male	Wales	2012-08-15 20:05:00
Middle East and North Africa	Waiver for meeting...	i've seen it come up in a couple of comments now-did i miss when it suddenly became an easy, no big deal for the average, single, under age 65 MENA guy to get a tourist visa here? or an afghan? i was under the impression that in these here parts, they were still pretty much as rare as unicorns. I am not going to disagree, but not relevant.	Boiler	Male	Wales	2012-08-15 17:34:00
Middle East and North Africa	Waiver for meeting...	Well, technically if you obtain a "tourist visa" with the pure intent of getting married, then it is "misrepresenting" your reason for coming to the US, and it is technically "fraud". If just going the tourist visa route was that was the correct process, then the K-1 Finace visa wouldn't exist...because a tourist visa is WAY easier to get than a K-1. Now that being said, obviously (as it appears you are an example of) plenty of people get married while on a tourist visa and it works out okay. But again, its not technically supposed to be "pre-meditated," and I think the system is in place for people who came as a tourist, and then just in the "heat of moment" decided to get married. Honestly I don't know how smoothly the process goes after that, and again, from what I see here on Visa Journey, plenty of people do it. But I think our lawyer was just playing it safe, wanting us to do everything by the book, so we didn't encounter any road bumps, and so that we could minimize the time we'd have to be apart. Nothing wrong with Marrying on a Tourist Visa, and leaving.	Boiler	Male	Wales	2012-08-15 16:44:00
Middle East and North Africa	Waiver for meeting...	All he can do is apply. Worst they can say is "no." True	Boiler	Male	Wales	2012-08-13 21:31:00
Middle East and North Africa	Waiver for meeting...	He applies for a Visitor Visa, which in the circumstances could be challenging. Certainly not a given that you seem to imply.	Boiler	Male	Wales	2012-08-13 20:01:00
Middle East and North Africa	Waiver for meeting...	There is no requirement to date, there is a requirement to meet. The more often you can meet, the more trips etc, the better your chances of success. There are very very few situations where this exception applies, certainly him being Muslim does not prevent you from meeting. You can meet anywhere that is practical and convenient. Edited by Boiler, 13 August 2012 - 04:28 PM.	Boiler	Male	Wales	2012-08-13 16:26:00