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PhilippinesIncome Question

Haha I should really relax. My fiance and I have been fighting the past few days because of me obsessing and.worrying over every single thing

 

It got like that when my wife was coming and we were near the end of the process to. We just started doing the Removal of Conditions, and again she wanted to start a little fight. She had misunderstood when we could file, and did not like it when I told her correct info. I guess just starting this got her nerves going again. So far further processing of our evidence and papers has gone smoothly. I think the size of the evidence pile has her feeling more secure laughing.gif


CaryhMalePhilippines2014-03-19 07:42:00
PhilippinesIncome Question

My guess is you're going to be fine. They understand a student just out of school is on the rising curve of his income. They understand he made less in previous years because he was in school. And they're also likely to accept a co-sponsor if needed because of those factors. Its the older, no or little chance of increasing income people they get hard on. I'd put your worries aside for now, as it appears you have this well covered.

 


CaryhMalePhilippines2014-03-18 07:44:00
PhilippinesIncome Question

They do not have to accept assets on a K-1 visa. They must be convinced the petitioner can support you and keep you off of government support. They don't even have to follow the 125% on a K-1, but if they don't feel the petitioner can support the beneficiary, they can still reject based on risk of public charge. I'm not sure why the petitioner in this case is low on income, but the ability to show that income will rise (a recently graduated student), and over exceeding assets are all helpful to get over the public charge issue. The embassy has considerable latitude on K-1/2 visas in deciding who is likely to become a public charge.

 


CaryhMalePhilippines2014-03-17 10:51:00
PhilippinesTickets purchased outside the Philippines

 

I don't know about that one, I have read on here of tickets being purchased through expedia, etc. and the airline still asking to see the CC, that is pretty much the same as a travel agent.   I still think it is more airline specific, and Delta is one that seems to ask more then others.

 

Definitely airline specific. But I know with Delta, they know if you bought direct or from someone else. If you buy direct and the ticket is for someone other than you, they want the purchaser to show the credit card to one of their ticketing agents. Had I bought through someone else, they told me that wouldn't be required. BTW they say this was all to protect me from fraud, even though the max out of pocket could have been $50 and the cost to go to and pay parking at the airport exceeded that. laughing.gif


CaryhMalePhilippines2014-02-28 13:59:00
PhilippinesTickets purchased outside the Philippines

 

Whether a copy of the CC is going to be needed is dependent on the airlines, some want to see a copy, some don't.  

 

Also depends where you purchase them. If he paid the travel agent, and not the airlines direct, then the airline need not worry about CC fraud, so they'll not ask as they don't even know if a card was used. If the agent ran the card through the airline's system, they may ask to see the CC or a copy. When I bought for my wife through Delta, travel tax was included and Delta made me go to an airport to show my card before my wife could travel.


CaryhMalePhilippines2014-02-28 09:42:00
PhilippinesCFO and the AOS

So your wife was not a LPR then, no GC for working, did she ever enter the USA? Did you ever sign an AOS? Yes he is in better condition due to her working but still this is a huge hammer hanging over his head, and yes he needs to be prepared for when it falls.

 

Have you read this? There is a detailed document that can be downloaded at the end, a bit overwhelming...

 

http://www.avvo.com/...avit-of-support

 

You keep picking your sources and then reading only the parts that feed your fears. Then ignoring the parts which show he need not worry.

 

 

From your own link - 

 

"The sponsor promises to provide support equal to 125% of the Federal Poverty Guidelines. This is $14,363 annually ($1,197 per month) for a single individual. The immigrant will be able to collect money from the sponsor only if she does not have another source of income. So if the immigrant is earning $2,000 per month, she will not be able to collect I-864 support from her sponsor."

 

 

 

Even that article says they need to sue, usually in federal court, but some federal courts say they must sue in the local court. This woman is working full time, making over the poverty level. She can not sue for more money and win period. If she quits her job to sue for it, she'll lose the case because she purposely failed to mitigate damages. 

CaryhMalePhilippines2014-04-28 10:22:00
PhilippinesCFO and the AOS

You just don't get it.  Neither does your friend.  Keeping his head in the sand will get him burned for sure.

 

My ex-wife didn't have a job, didn't even have authorization to work in this country, yet the judge awarded her NO alimony and ordered HER TO PAY child support, based on imputed wages.   This was based, in part, upon the fact that she was young and healthy and would be CAPABLE of working someday. 

 

From what you have told us, you're friend is in a much better position that I was. 

 

No one who has demonstrated capacity to work is going to be awarded full support by a judge, unless they allow it to happen (poor defense, not  understanding the legal proceedings, consulting idiots for advice, etc.)

 

But if you'd rather just wait for her to be better prepared, then by all means, wait it out based on a hypothetical worst case for which there is little, if any, evidence of ever happening.

 

 

Yep, I foresee her moving all the couple's assets to the Philippines, where they will be untraceable. And then divorcing her husband after ROC, including going after support. He'll sit with his head in the sand, not get decent or any representation, and she'll get that support. Then live on easy street, while he lives on ramen noodles for the rest of his life. Even after she returns to work, but continues to collect support. Maybe she'll even have someone else's kid before divorcing him and collect child support off him to.


CaryhMalePhilippines2014-04-28 09:45:00
PhilippinesCFO and the AOS

The point is if she does not have income my friend will support her, after she sues of course and he will pay the legal fees most likely. She can lose employment in anyway she wants. For the time being he will stick his head in the sand and hope it does't happen SOON. 

 

The Sponsor?s Obligations

The Form I-864 Affidavit of Support is a legally enforceable contract, meaning that either the government or the sponsored immigrant can take the sponsor to court if the sponsor fails to provide adequate support to the immigrant. In fact, the law places more obligations on the sponsor than on the immigrant -- the immigrant could decide to quit a job and sue the sponsor for support.

 

Your friend really needs to see a lawyer. Attempting to sue and prevailing a two very different things. Quitting a job in order to get the other person to pay you more money, is more likely to backfire than succeed. In any tort case the plaintiff is under an obligation called "Avoidable Consequences". Willfully quitting a job to gain more in a suit, would come under this clause, as the plaintiff would of had no need to sue had they not quit their job. All injured parties are required to mitigate damages. 


CaryhMalePhilippines2014-04-28 08:17:00
PhilippinesCFO and the AOS

She has only this month started 5 days a week at min wage, so 400 a week lets say, over the 125% level yes. Maybe thats the best thing, divorce while she is making her maximum month salary. I think if she quit though she could then sue for the support, needs the 40 quarters first remember and no guarantees in this employment market. Staying with her friends and not working, no commute, no taxes possibly....

 

Seems like many are really not sure about the implications of the 864. My friend had no idea. Myself when I filled out the form it was 6 months or more before I had to turn it in and I never reread mine either.

 

Would be interesting to hear from some of the old VJ'ers whose marriage has fallen apart but I think they would rather not do so.

 

You are truly over worrying about the 864. If a person quits a job to gain benefits in a divorce, they don't get those benefits. Even a first year law student could fight that type of tactic. You should read some of the cases where its been used. It certainly isn't a given they automatically get a guaranteed 125% of poverty level. There hasn't been many cases that have succeeded, but there are some. I was reading one case where the USC argued she could work so he need not pay, the court ruling was it was up to the USC to prove she could work, which he failed to do because the immigrant did not speak English and had a young child to care for. If she quits and he argues she can work, she was working making over 125% poverty, but she quit when the divorce was filed. Then he's proved she intentionally attempted to increase damages. Of course he should get his hands on some pay stubs to prove she's working.


CaryhMalePhilippines2014-04-25 09:42:00
PhilippinesCFO and the AOS

In the context of a divorce, she's gonna have to demonstrate the need for support first.  

 

Read up on the relevant case law, it's much more informative than a for-profit web site sponsored by lawyers.  There isn't much case law out there, but there's enough to understand that she's got a very steep, very high mountain to climb; I haven't seen anyone in with her circumstances just be able to cash out on the basis of a I-864.  If it were as easy as you allude, there'd be cases popping up left and right; there are not.

 

She's already demonstrated the legal capacity, capability and willingness to work, presumably at a wage sufficient to meet federal poverty guidelines.  Whether it's enough to support her or not will be her problem.  

 

Her mortars are barely gonna leave their firing tubes, assuming you haven't left out any crucial information.  

 

What we don't know is where the OP's friend lives. The state in which the couple is being divorced has a huge affect on what she can get. But I agree with you, automatically getting 125% of the poverty level for life is not going to be an easy thing regardless of where they live. We also don't know her income level. But if she's above the 125%, and making more money than him, she'll get nothing, even if she suddenly chooses to quit her job in order not to work. The cases I have read, have required the immigrant to mitigate the damages. If they are unable to speak the language, and/or have young children at home, they can make a case for not working. But if they're working and quit when the divorce is filed, its easy to prove they have not made any attempt to mitigate the damages.


CaryhMalePhilippines2014-04-25 08:30:00
PhilippinesCFO and the AOS

Exactly what I thought but the information was from someone he knew who knew the circumstances. I believe that most all states have the pre existing assets that go to whoever had them before marriage but who knows. Now under Philippine law everything is 50-50 regardless and this is something to consider for someone who does not have a PI prenup before the marriage, if he went there to live that is.

 

Biggest threat though is the darn 864. 30yrs would be almost 440k at todays level. Like some replies it would be hard to be successful in getting that but thats a really big black cloud hanging over his head and if he does stay with her he will always be a yes man to not upset her. 

 

Get this...she read the news about the visa waiver for the PI and she already hit him up about bringing family over, haha. I told him that it is a hoax. Hopefully she is not reading this...

 

I told him he would need to sign a few more AOS's to get them over, go for it!

 

So the ROC can or cannot be a time to use a little levarage? He told me just an hr ago that she will NOT go back anytime soon. She knows the game for sure

 

 

There is no real leverage in the ROC. If he refuses to sign, she can divorce him and file on her own. 

If she is making that kind of money, at or over 125% of poverty level, he would owe her no alimony based on the I-864. If he filed for divorce, and she quit her job in order to get it, the courts would surely see that as an attempt to get alimony when she's perfectly able to support herself over the poverty level. Every case I've seen on someone getting money based on the I-864, and there hasn't been many, income made by the immigrant is subtracted from the amount.  

 

I'm fairly sure you're incorrect about the 50/50 split in the Philippines. In annulments, what each party owns separately is theirs to keep. Its only assets owned together that are split 50/50. So any property they purchase, would be 100% her's in a split because foreigners cannot own land there. He can, rather than buy, take out a long term lease on property though. He can inherit the property if she were to die before him, but he'd be required to sell the property at that point.


CaryhMalePhilippines2014-04-25 08:18:00
PhilippinesCFO and the AOS

One story I heard were that the Filipina ended up with the house the sponsor had before they got married

 

when you hear of those totally unbalanced results like that, its either just an urban legend, or else one had a good lawyer and the other went in thinking they knew it all and represented themselves. Never represent yourself in a contested divorce. 


CaryhMalePhilippines2014-04-24 13:33:00
PhilippinesCFO and the AOS

don't really want to say right now...but my guess is it would be more on her side. There have been some other local stories I have heard and they are not favorable to the man. A bit of legal advice before the chit hits the fan would be a good idea for sure

 

I totally understand the desire for keeping that undisclosed right now. Too bad he lives in one of the less than fair states. A person can rest a lot easier when they live in a state that actually has fair laws in the event a marriage falls apart. 


CaryhMalePhilippines2014-04-24 10:03:00
PhilippinesCFO and the AOS

What actual state does this couple live in? His exposure is highly going to depend on the jurisdiction he lives in.

 


CaryhMalePhilippines2014-04-24 08:45:00
PhilippinesCFO and the AOS

Your friend really needs to put himself in adversarial mindset.  I wouldn't take the risk that she's dumb enough to fall for returning to the PI and then missing her chance to return to the USA.  Your friend also needs to assume that VAWA is an option she has considered and potentially is planning for.  Your friend should focus on how to protect himself from potential abuse claims that would be supportive of a VAWA claim and pursue a divorce and remove himself from her as soon as possible. 

 

 

No VAWA required, she has a green card. Although false abuse charges are often used as leverage and control in divorce cases, even when immigration is not an issue in the divorce. A "pit viper" would not be immune from attempting this strategy.


CaryhMalePhilippines2014-04-23 14:49:00
PhilippinesCFO and the AOS

Seems like I read something about the immigrant if they do not file tax returns they are in violation of the rules and can be deported. "Yes dear, I just filed our taxes" (married filing separate)

 

She has even mentioned the ROC date to him. They were already thinking of taking a trip back to the PI and she wanted to make sure she would be back in time to file for the removal

 

Get ROC done, return home and buy some property, return to USA, divorce husband and sue for alimony. Sometimes people just go bad, or are bad and the start and hid it well.


CaryhMalePhilippines2014-04-23 14:25:00
PhilippinesCFO and the AOS

 

My oops.... but there is a barb-less hook hiding in there just the same;  one requirement is the beneficiary has to have legal residence status.

 

This is where the "pit viper" has to be watched carefully.  (hmm I wonder if she is reading this forum ... ? )

 

I'd definitely be making a trip home with the "pit viper". Not many would have the resources to return without their passport and green card. Even more so if you're on one of the further out islands.


CaryhMalePhilippines2014-04-23 13:20:00
PhilippinesCFO and the AOS

This info is be good to know, especially for co-sponsors who could be on the hook for someone they do not even know. There are so many scammers in the PI and for someone who has not had significant time on the ground could be really duped by them, and they are experts at this. My friend had lots of time with her prior to starting the K1 process. I was the one who encouraged him to do it so and is why I am helping him with ideas. You nailed it on this one!

 

There is no new I-864 when applying to remove conditions. He cannot get off the hook that easily. 


CaryhMalePhilippines2014-04-23 12:55:00
PhilippinesCFO and the AOS

Yes, it is not emotional now...logical steps now...keep the emotions far from his actions.

 

He could buy a cheap little apartment there for her 'to rent' (he won't have rights to property there unless he is a Filipino citizen by the way, another way for her to run with his money).  Snag her green card and run from the country...hehe.

 

He sells his home here and buys property there in her name he will be finished.

 

Yep, take on a trip back to the Philippines in order to look at property to buy. While she's out, catch a plane back to the USA, with her passport and green card in hand. When he's back, get divorced.

But first, document the threats to sue for 125% of poverty unless he sells his home and hands all his assets to her, so she can put them into her sole possession in the Philippines.


CaryhMalePhilippines2014-04-23 11:13:00
PhilippinesCFO and the AOS

Can you elaborate on this?

 

I got this online...

 

When the government sues the sponsor, it collects enough money to reimburse any public agencies that have given public benefits to the immigrant. When the immigrant sues, he or she collects cash support up to 125% of the amount listed in the U.S. government?s Poverty Guidelines 

 

There have been cases where the beneficiary has managed to sue based on the I-864 and get support at 125% of the poverty level. 

This assumes the beneficiary doesn't work, as any income they make offsets the amount required. Winning these cases in not a given, it can work in some jurisdictions and fail in others. 


CaryhMalePhilippines2014-04-23 09:52:00
Philippinesreporting marriage to phil embassy... spouse previously married in PH but was divorced.

Hank is right, OP can opt to renew her passport in her maiden name but not with her married name..

 

Article 15 of the Civil Code of the Philippines provides that "  Laws relating to family rights and duties, or to the status, condition and legal capacity of persons are binding upon citizens of the Philippines, even though living abroad."...that's why any Filipino citizens even though living abroad cannot institute any action that are not recognize in PI. and unless they are naturalized, they are still Filipino citizens and they carried with them these obligations.......OP's husband knows that they cannot validly get divorce in the very first place that's why they didn't report their divorce decree in the Philippine embassy to have in annotated in their MC in PI and now their facing the consequences of their acts...we are all bounded by laws and we cannot just do what we want.

 

Since they didn't report/register the dissolution of the first in the Philippine embassy, in PI and under PI laws the first marriage was existing and binding...I just wonder why this issue was not taken during the interview..The Filipino Officer in USEM could have required the OP to show CENOMAR for her husband since he was once a Filipino citizen.. Anyhow, IMHO, OP's husband should fix this problem before the Phil embassy..

 

It doesn't matter what the husband was, it matters what the husband is, and that is a USC at the time of filing the K-1. The embassy is not establishing if the petitioner has a valid petition, its already been approved, they are only establishing if the petitioner can support the beneficiary, the relationship is valid and if the beneficiary meets the health requirements.


CaryhMalePhilippines2014-04-29 13:31:00
PhilippinesEXIT PERMIT for my 1 year and 11month old son

Thanks for the information here--it is quite comforting to know that this can be done just by obtaining a Philippine passport as well for my son, who was born abroad and we obtained his US passport. I have a question--I have filed a K1 petition (waiting for NOA2), but wondered if you paid visa fees, got medical, etc., for child with US passport as part of the K2? I am having trouble finding specific information on that here at visajourney. It seems unnecessary, but wanted to check to see if you or anyone knew. Thanks in advance for any help.

 

You son is a USC therefore needs no fees or associated fees to be paid to the USA.


CaryhMalePhilippines2014-04-29 07:36:00
PhilippinesEXIT PERMIT for my 1 year and 11month old son

Does your son also have a Philippines passport? I guess I assumed he did, but if he does then he does not need the exit permit, just show both passports. If he doesn't have a Philippines passport, then an exit permit is required if you can't show how he entered the country. Other than that, as long as the child is traveling with a parent, they do not need the Travel clearance.

 

 


CaryhMalePhilippines2014-04-22 08:16:00
PhilippinesEXIT PERMIT for my 1 year and 11month old son

I live in Davao city with my toddler son who already have his US passport since last 2012. Is it ok to get exit permit from the beaureau of immigration here in davao city? or do i really need to go to b.i intramuros manila? 

 

No, your toddler son does not need an exit permit as he holds a USA passport. 

 

 

Who does not need a DSWD Travel Clearance to leave the Philippines?

  • A Filipino minor traveling with either parent, with his or her solo parent or legal guardian;
  • A Filipino minor whose parents are in the Foreign Service
  • A Filipino minor who holds a temporary or permanent resident visa of another country and is rejoining the parents in that country
  • A child holding a foreign passport

CaryhMalePhilippines2014-04-22 07:58:00
PhilippinesFast Visa Process for Wife to US????

I think the official term for my residency is "Permanent Resident Visa" which is called a 13a.  And in my latest research to take this "fast Track" or the DCF you have to married to your Filipino Spouse for 2 or more years.  Not sure if you need to have lived in the Philippines during that time but if you do, I do have utilities bills for records showing that I've been in country for 5 years. 

 

I know people who just got married and did DCF in the Philippines. They don't seem to look to hard at how long you've been living there either. Should be no issue at all for you. 

 


CaryhMalePhilippines2014-05-01 11:25:00
PhilippinesHow Do I Know that we've successfully filed for Report of Marriage?

I wish i can report my marriage  :crying:

 

Why can't you? a foreign divorce that was never recognised?

Oh wait, looked at your profile, yep don't hold your breath on that one, the Philippines doesn't even allow divorce and are still arguing about birth control. Forget same sex marriage in this century.


CaryhMalePhilippines2014-05-06 13:09:00
PhilippinesHow Do I Know that we've successfully filed for Report of Marriage?

Yes you get one of the forms you filled out back, but you'll note that it is now stamped. This is your copy of the report of marriage abroad. We didn't get anything we sent in back, including the original marriage certificate they said they would return. The note about applying for the marriage certificate, is just to let you know it will take that long before you can expect to have the NSO record your marriage.

 


CaryhMalePhilippines2014-05-06 09:01:00
PhilippinesCFO stickers

Thank you so much everyone for your input. I'm glad I run through a YouTube video of one pinay saying she has sticker so I googled it and found that it's CFO sticker. When I got my visa approved the staff in us consulate hongkong never mention it since I told them that I'll be back in Philippines and depart from there to USA.

 

I don't think the consulate in the Manila embassy even mention it. Its a Philippine government requirement, not a USA requirement.


CaryhMalePhilippines2014-05-16 09:30:00
PhilippinesCFO stickers

I should mention, if you have a permanent residence card in another country, the CFO sticker is not required.

 


CaryhMalePhilippines2014-05-16 08:57:00
PhilippinesCFO stickers

When you try to leave the Philippines, and they see the USA K-1 visa, they will want to see the CFO seminar stamp in your passport. 

They've set up a new system to make an appointment online. 

 

http://www.cfo.gov.p...ions&Itemid=858


CaryhMalePhilippines2014-05-16 08:19:00
PhilippinesMy FIANCE felt disconnected during my K1 Interview - 08 August 2013

Congrats. 


CaryhMalePhilippines2013-08-08 09:32:00
PhilippinesCFO - Cebu

Cebu is still walkin only, first come first served.


CaryhMalePhilippines2014-05-21 11:54:00
PhilippinesFiancee Got Arrested, Serious Question to Ask

Not necessarily Caryh.  Depending on the state/county and other details, one can start out in the hole with back child support.

 

With an original support order, from day one, I was $10,000 in arrears. Having never missed a payment once served, in 4 years of bi-weekly payroll garnishments that $10,000 grew to over $25,000 with state mandated annual 10% interest and $300.00 added each month that exceeded the state maximum amount for garnishments.

 

Not knowing the details here -- its hard to know why the $7300 was ordered.

 

Point taken. 


CaryhMalePhilippines2014-05-21 13:13:00
PhilippinesFiancee Got Arrested, Serious Question to Ask

This sounds like a case where the husband in the divorce failed to show up for a contested divorce. Child support was set and never paid, so now he's deep in a hole for child support. Or child support stopped being paid, his last known legal address received a summons and he ignored it even if the mail was accepted at that location. Child support is set based on income. How its calculated depends on the location, and it can be pretty high with three kids. But those are his kids and its his responsibility to support them. He was arrested because he ignored the court summons and court orders, leading to a bench warrant. He most likely has been ordered as part of the arrest to appear in court. If someone's income drops, they can petition the courts to reduce child support, but ignoring it will create all types of trouble, as he is learning.

 

I don't care what he thinks of his ex, she could be the worst woman in the world in his opinion, but he's the one who has failed to do the right thing and see to his own children's support. This is a huge red flag. Speaks to the character of a person. You love him now, but somehow I think we'll see you back in the future under the changes in family section, although I truly hope we don't.

 


Edited by Caryh, 21 May 2014 - 11:30 AM.

CaryhMalePhilippines2014-05-21 11:29:00
PhilippinesAny chemical dependency counselors in Tacloban or Naval

ouch, do you really want to continue with a meth addict? Truly think on this as Meth is not an easy drug to kick.

 

http://en.wikipedia...._and_withdrawal


CaryhMalePhilippines2014-05-28 09:14:00
Philippinesgetting new passport after you get case #

I thought she needed to do the CFO before she could update her passport to her married name now?

 


CaryhMalePhilippines2014-05-28 14:29:00
PhilippinesCFO

 

OP hasn't had the CFO seminar yet, so it might be another case of "he said/ she said". Is a "legal capacity to contract marriage (from a petitioner)" something anybody can get here in US? It sounds kinda strange. It will be over the top for CFO to require something that essentially does not exist, especially if the applicant has her visa at hand already. Or maybe it's just their newly-coined highfalutin term?!! It does sound discriminating.  :rofl: 

 

If it were asked of me though, I would think a divorce decree or a 1040 (showing single as civil status) are more than sufficient when asked.

 

That is not something that can be obtained in the USA. Even the Philippines, it is issued by the US embassy based on the applicant swearing he can legally marry. Which is why its the Affidavit, and not a certificate. There is no central registry to look up marriages in the USA. And even some married people will file as single on taxes to pay less. Its big trouble if they get caught, but some still do it.


CaryhMalePhilippines2014-05-28 15:24:00
PhilippinesCFO

 

I was asked for my husband's tax transcript, because he was never married and I didn't have any divorce decree to show to the CFO counselor that he's single and free to marry. :)

 

Thats a little different than being asked for the CENOMAR or the affidavit in lieu of.

I'm not sure what all the CFO asked my wife for. She basically brought everything from the petition evidence to her interview evidence and docs. When they heard we'd known each other for ten years at that point though, they were kind of convinced was fine and didn't give her any hassles. It went super easy for her, even though she's a bit shy around authority figures. Which I always found a bit funny, as she can really take control when she's the boss at work. Its like seeing two different people  :lol:


CaryhMalePhilippines2014-05-28 14:52:00
PhilippinesCFO

 

Never heard that one before, besides it would be impossible to get without being in the Philippines as that is issued by the embassy.

 

I have tried to list everything I have come across that is known to have been asked for at CFO in my link below (click the CFO tab once on the site)

 

I've always heard it as "they say" or "someone said", I've never seen a first hand account of someone being asked for this.


CaryhMalePhilippines2014-05-28 14:32:00
PhilippinesImmigration bureau: Registered sex offenders barred from entering PHL

Does somebody sound an alarm when such a person boards the plane?  I noticed when I went there last July the immigration officer never looked at a computer terminal when I was at her station.  She just inspected my passport and the form I filled out, asked me a few questions and I was in.  If I were an RSO and hid that fact, how would she have known?

 

passenger manifests are sent ahead to the country when the plane has boarded and left. So they have plenty of time to check the list. 


CaryhMalePhilippines2014-06-05 14:07:00