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K-1 denied for marriage in Philippines

you obviously not paying attention to what im say. # 1 I said IF the person seeking the divorce is Philipino. good luck, they DO NOT grant divorce only Annulments and for only about four reasons so your spouse could try to kill you and thats not grounds. #2 Do your homework check with USCIS. He said he filed for his Ex. What i said was if it has been less than 10 yrs since he filed for his EX not since he divorced her then he will be denied. unless that law has change it was instituted due to fraud.

You apparently have a reading comprehension issue on this thread. No one is seeking a divorce, the USC has already gotten a divorce in the USA from a Filipina he married in the Philippines. His current Filipina fiancee is concerned USCIS will reject a K-1 petition because he once married in the Philippines. That simply is not true, its not what the Philippine Family Code says or how the Philippine legal system looks at it, and its not how USCIS or the Manila embassy looks at it. The 10 year thing you apparently pulled out of your butt, because nowhere in Philippines law or USA law is there some magical 10 year clause on what ever you seem to think is correct. You've never said what it is, instead say because of 10 years they will be rejected.

Quit giving advice on things you know absolutely nothing about. You are hurting real people's lives with these totally made up rules which even you can't define but some how think you know. If your reading comprehension was is as poor reading the laws, as it is with understanding the situation of the OP, its no wonder you're giving totally incorrect advice.

Caryh

Male

Philippines

2013-11-05 08:22:00

K-1 denied for marriage in Philippines

You are wrong because both are US citizens at the time of divorce. And nowhere anywhere is there a must be divorced 10 years before petitioning requirement.

Yes the USC marry a Philippine citizen in the Philippines. The Philippines limitations on divorce do not pertain to him in any manner, as he is a USA citizen. So was his ex spouse at the time of the divorce filing. Either of them can go to the Philippines and legally marry someone even if they have a marriage record with the NSO. They only need to show they are USC and have a divorce decree.

The laws you are referring pertain to Philippines citizens, which the OP is not. And you being certain about something, does not mean you're correct.

exactly what am i wrong about? he said he was divorce and that he had filed for his ex. well im certain there is a time limit on how often you can file for someone so im stating that if it has not been 10yrs unless that time limit has been changed he will be denied. and if its the person in the philippines that needs to get A DIVORCE THEN GOOD LUCK:

Marriage Annulment & Divorce in the Philippines

POSTED BY DAVE ON FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 20TH, 2009

1 ? My wife and I are Filipino citizens living overseas can we obtain a divorce in our country of residence?

Divorce is not acknowledged under the laws of the Philippines. Filipino citizens, no matter what their country of residence must follow the procedure indicated in the Family Code of the Philippines to have their marriage nullified or voided by filing a Petition of Annulment of Marriage before the pertinent Office of the Executive Clerk of Court of the Regional Court.

2- I am Filipina married to an American citizen. My husband obtained a divorce in the USA, am I now allowed to remarry?

No, divorce is not recognized in the Philippines. But this is a special circumstance which is covered by the Family Code of the Philippines:

Based on this the Filipino Citizen may now apply to have the foreign divorce validated by the courts of the Philippines and may marry again. To do this, the petitioner must show that the divorce was obtained in conformity of the foreign laws of the country of the foreign citizen.

ART. 26. All marriages solemnized outside the Philippines in accordance with the laws in force in the country where they were solemnized, and valid there as such, shall also be valid in this country, except those prohibited under Articles 35(1), (4), (5) and (6), 36, 37 and 38.

Where a marriage between a Filipino citizen and a foreigner is validly celebrated and a divorce is thereafter validly obtained abroad by the alien spouse capacitating him or her to remarry, the Filipino spouse shall have capacity to remarry under Philippine law.

Caryh

Male

Philippines

2013-11-04 15:07:00

K-1 denied for marriage in Philippines

A divorce filed by a USC to a Philippine Citizen in the USA is automatically recognized in the Philippines for the USC. For the Philippine Citizen, they must go through the courts to get that divorce recognized by the NSO before they can marry again in the Philippines. If the divorce was filed by a Philippine Citizen, for the USC the divorce is automatically recognized, but the Philippine citizen must get an annulment if they wish to remarry in the Philippines. There was some talk in the Philippine congress a while back about requiring the foreign citizens to also go through getting the divorce recognized by the courts before they could remarry in the Philippines, but it went nowhere. They argued it wasn't fair that Filipinos needed to jump through such hoops while foreign citizens did not.

In this case both were USC's at the time of the divorce, and the divorce is recognized in the Philippines without the need for judicial review or annulment for either of them.

Caryh

Male

Philippines

2013-11-04 12:13:00

HI Caryh... I have the exact same concerns you have! So, on the1040 and W2, was it okay to black out the SS number? I am planning to tell my fiance to do the same thing. I am not comfortable on having other people aside from my him to get a hold of those 9 precious digits!!! =)

I prepared clean copies and backed out copies for my wife. I gave her the instructions, clean copies were not to be given to anyone, just shown. Except the embassy could get clean copies if they needed them, but to offer the blacked out copies first. I forget if the embassy took the clean copies. The CFO was happy with the blacked out copies. I didn't give the 1040 forms, I had transcripts from the IRS instead, and also the W-2s.

Caryh

Male

Philippines

2014-02-24 08:50:00

Well u both don't know the reason why we fight.. So..
And if u want ur partner to be with u which that is really the
Plan then why not do everything needed to get it all done right? lol
And everyone know's that the documents that are sent in
The embassy are well guarded. If that makes the american
Petitioner informations/identity harm then why did they put
That in their one of requirements.. Im sure its not the president
Of the Philippines nor Indonesia made that requirements right? Makes sense

But wait until the CFO asks to see the exact same documents. The tax copies with the SSN blacked out were for them to see.

Caryh

Male

Philippines

2014-02-20 12:57:00

I got his ITR for 2012 and 2013 guys.. He did file
His taxes, he just thought i don't need it.. But finally i have it
After 4 days of bugging him about it..
I will have my interview tomorrow morning, i hope i will
Hear the good news like everyone does..
Wish me luck guys!

Great news! He woke up and smelled the coffee finally. Did the instructions from the embassy clue him in that it is required?

Good luck on your interview.

Caryh

Male

Philippines

2014-02-20 09:11:00

Did he actually file his taxes ? I can understand the personal information problem . Maybe I missed it , but I did not see that for a reason why he hasn't given them . I don't see why he would not give all the possible information to you without a reason .

I don't think she's given us his reason, beyond he thinks she doesn't need it. I hadn't thought of him not having filed and paid his taxes. That would surely put the brakes on the visa.

Caryh

Male

Philippines

2014-02-19 15:54:00

I completely understand what you mean but i hope you also understand all the frustrations
And stressed we are facing to get all this done. It's not easy as you know.
I know there are informations you cannot share with anyone,
But you are sharing it with someone you are bringing in your
Country to live with you, to marry and to grow old with you. It takes
Time and trust for you both to get to that point right?
So what's the point of you marrying someone you love if you cannot
Even give your trust? I hope that does makes sense to you..

Yes what you're saying makes sense to me. But so does how I know I felt about the handing out of so much personal information.

For my own self, it wasn't my fiancee seeing the information, it was all the people it was getting handed off to that worried me. Embassy, CFO, other people in her house, etc... Also she didn't really understand what parts of the documents are dangerous if they get out in circulation. What we did is she had two copies of things. One set to show but not allow to be taken and another set they could have, which had things like the SS number blacked out. We talked about what was the sensitive documents and which were no big deal. She learned a lot, and I felt a lot more comfortable with her handling of them then. She actually hand carried back all the original and sensitive documents when she came here. The extra edited copies her family used as paper in the Philippines.

This is really a stressful time on both sides. Until he actually sees how you handle having that type of information in hand, its hard to trust until he know's you truly understand it. For you, you're taking it very personal that this reflects on his trust of you. For him its more likely he's worried who is going to have copies of this information, and even just a little burn out at feeling people are asking him to bend over, spread his cheeks and let the world have its way with him.

I trust my wife completely. But I also know she had a lot to learn about fraud and what type of information to keep safe. What she learned when all those documents were sent over, is just a fraction of what she's learned since she been in the USA. She never imagined there were so many different attempts going on to steal personal information from Americans. But for us Americans, this mostly comes as second nature because we're warned about it constantly and most of us have had cases of dealing directly with fraud.

Caryh

Male

Philippines

2014-02-19 11:24:00

Thanks a lot! I really really appreciate this.
That is what i also told him and that the blame will be all
Thrown to him. I don't mean but sometimes it made you say
Words you don't mean because of your anger.
But thanks a lot..

If you'd like some unsolicited advice, stop with the blame game. I noticed my Filipina wife also is big on deciding who's to blame or at fault all the time to. If something doesn't work out or an argument starts there's the assumption someone should be to blame. This is actually rather destructive in a relationship, when you'd best place your efforts on finding solutions to a problem regardless of the fault. When you get caught in the blame game, you'll find yourself continuing to fight over something silly just to make sure you're not the one considered to blame. Its better to put your efforts on what feelings your partner had that lead to the conflict to begin with so you understand them better and can possibly avoid setting the same conflict off again.

As I mentioned, your fiance is probably feeling a bit upset at how much personal and private information he's being asked to hand over to complete strangers. Americans are taught some of the paperwork that is being asked for are things you never let anyone see. We're also taught that letting some of this stuff get out, can destroy us financially if it gets in the wrong hands. Which is very true actually. When we're asked for more and more of this, our defenses automatically start going up, and we start reacting by saying no or finding reasons why we need not give that information.

Just trying to give you a possible idea of why he doesn't want to hand over some of these financial documents. Be easy on him, its not easy for most Americans to hand over all that is being asked for by the embassy.

Caryh

Male

Philippines

2014-02-19 09:54:00

http://photos.state....tober 2013_.pdf

This scares me now coz i will be having my interview this coming friday.
He kept insisting that i don't need the 1040 coz he is not self employed.
Im pissed right now. I only have his verification of employment, 3 recent pay stubs, W2's from 2011 to 2013.. I ofcourse have the affidavit of support..

Here's the link with instructions on what to bring with to the embassy. While they may decide what you have is enough, they may also demand you get the tax forms or tax transcript. They won't deny the visa if they decide they need it, they'll give you time to provide it. My wife once said when she was asking for things I didn't think she needed, "Well if you don't mind us being delayed a month of two because they want it, then its OK if you don't send it to me." Anything she even thought she might need was sent to her after that comment. I understand where he's coming from, it starts to feel like they truly are asking for way too much as a certain point. But looking at in the light of my wife's comment and realizing how bureaucrats can be a total pain in the butt, I no longer minded making sure she had these things.

k. EVIDENCE OF SUPPORT. You should be able to demonstrate that you will not become a public charge

or be a burden on the U.S. taxpayers for financial support. A completed I-134 Affidavit of Support Form

with original signature will be useful to the consular officer to evaluate your petitioner?s ability to be financially responsible for you. You should also submit your petitioner?s most recent U.S. Federal income

tax return (Form 1040) and wage statements (Form W-2). Employment letters stating salaries and bank

statements may be included to substantiate the I-134.

Edited by Caryh, 19 February 2014 - 09:23 AM.

Caryh

Male

Philippines

2014-02-19 09:22:00

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You will need his tax transcripts (these are requested and received direct from the IRS) or his complete tax return, including all forms and the W2's. If his income is close to the qualifying income, they'll want multiple years.

Caryh

Male

Philippines

2014-02-19 08:33:00

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Thank you Carhy, I will do that (contact them both). What amount of time did it take you to hear from them (Congressman/Senator)

and to get good news from USCIS?

We did it on my wife's AOS application. They were publishing 6 months at the time, but going way over. The rep's office I called directly and spoke with the aid and he was right on top of it. We communicated back and forth via email on every step he did, and what he got back from them. In 4 days we got notice that process should be complete within 6 weeks, but he said normally when he got that response, the card can within two weeks. It did, and he followed up to make sure we got it, and in case we needed any more help. Wonderful dealing with them, even though politically I'm opposed to most of that reps positions.

The senator's office I did everything through their web page. Never talked with anyone. But they did follow up with me, got the same response and their feedback was about a weeks behind the reps. I give both of them high marks for helping out and being there when we needed them.

Even though in the end, it took almost 8 months to get her green card, those that were waiting and not doing anything were taking 10 to 12 months. Before I went the rep and senator assistance, I did the request via the customer support system which just gave the standard form letter telling us to wait. We probably would have got her card in 7 months if we didn't waste time with that.

Caryh

Male

Philippines

2013-10-21 14:51:00

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Members, USCIS still says that they dont know when my case will be responded to. Remember it is now five months since I got an rfe. Should I now call my congressman or tmy Senator? Is it okay to call both of them or contact both of them at the same time? What should I do, so tired and the waiting has been over a year. Please help, thank you

Yes contact them. They'll need to you fill out and return a consent form before they can contact USCIS on your behalf. Normally they have an aid that does all the work contacting USCIS and getting back to you. There is no problem with getting both involved. I went to their web sites and downloaded the consent form for both a senator and rep, and got them both to inquire for me.

Caryh

Male

Philippines

2013-10-21 14:29:00

K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports

im so frustrated my bf applied for k1 in march we have been in initial review for 8 month and now i go to check my case and i found they are asking me more evidence wow why they do that im pregnant i just want to be with my bf, get marry and raise our kid together. any body knows what kind of evidence they request.

No one can guess that until the RFE arrives in the mail for your BF. That you got an RFE means at least your file is finally being looked at. Had everything they wanted been included with the petition, you could be getting the NOA2 now.

Caryh

Male

Philippines

2013-10-18 14:51:00

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As another just mentioned, did you send things about your visit you made prior to the the application? If not I'd definitely attempt to add to the RFE, because if you only send info about visits afterwards, you did not answer their question. Its like them asking your age and you answering by saying apples.

They should have replied on the RFE before those 90 days are up, and you're at 150 days now.

As to saying they have your file, they only know that because its marked in the system that they received your response. No one has gone and looked to see your file sitting somewhere. Lost files are not unheard of, and when it happens people get placed in the limbo world of being told to wait. When you inquire, that resets the clock on a new wait 60 days while we look into it. When its not found and you check into they say wait again. You can be stuck in that loop forever, unless you step out of the loop and get a congressman, senator and the ombudsman involved.

When I contacted them last month about the delay of my rfe response. Their response indicated that the four months I had been waiting isnt outside their normal processing time of RFE:

The status of this service request is:

U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Service (USCIS) records show that your pending application or petition is not Outside the Normal Processing Time frame.

When a Request for Initial Evidence is required, the 90-day time period for processing your application or petition ends. A new 90-day period begins once USCIS receives your response to our Request for Initial Evidence. Your petition is currently under review and you should receive a decision or notice of other action within 60 days.

Please take this process into account prior to contacting USCIS regarding your application or petition as outside the normal processing time.

The status of this service request is:

U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Service (USCIS) records show that your pending application or petition is not Outside the Normal Processing Time frame.

When a Request for Initial Evidence is required, the 90-day time period for processing your application or petition ends. A new 90-day period begins once USCIS receives your response to our Request for Initial Evidence. Your petition is currently under review and you should receive a decision or notice of other action within 60 days.

Please take this process into account prior to contacting USCIS regarding your application or petition as outside the normal processing time.

Caryh

Male

Philippines

2013-10-18 12:53:00

K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports

By the way, thank you guys for all your responses. It means a lot to me and it is so encouraging to get all your advice.

I understand your frustration Jose, I'd be going bat shite crazy if I was waiting 5 months for an answer to an RFE. Now way would I have let it get that far, I would have been chasing every avenue there was to get USCIS to get the process completed. If I were you, I'd be putting together every time shred of evidence of having met in the two years previous to filing, and getting ready to resubmit the RFE response. I honest think they've lost your's, and once you can finally get someone to look and realize it, you'll be resubmitting the response. But you're going to have to have someone beating them up on why they haven't acted to get that to happen. Otherwise you could wait in limbo forever because your lost file never gets to the top of the pile.

Caryh

Male

Philippines

2013-10-18 11:59:00

K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports

How I wish they had denied us before they sent us the RFE, if it was to take this long. We would have another chance of reapplying early.

What evidence did of meeting in the two years previous did you provide? Not much beats the the passport stamps showing you traveled to her country. And I mean literally photocopying those pages and circling the stamps showing entry and exit. Also some good advice I got from the USCIS support line, yes there is one or two good people on that line, don't assume they have not lost your evidence or didn't understand what it was. When you respond to an RFE, send everything you sent before to prove that part of the requirements plus more. And write out exactly what each piece of evidence is and how it relates to the question in a letter.

5 months is way too long a wait to get a reply to an RFE response. You should be getting your senators and congressman involved, and also the USCIS ombudsman. I am guessing, your RFE reply has been misplaced. Yes they received it, but have no idea where it is at this point.

Caryh

Male

Philippines

2013-10-18 11:14:00

K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports

Did you meet your fiancee within 2 years prior to filing the I-129F?

That is my thoughts to. His reply as to what he sent, was not what they were asking for. They don't care about meetings after he applied, they need proof they were in each other's presence in the two year period before they applied for the K-1. If they didn't meet in that time period and prove it, they will be denied.

Caryh

Male

Philippines

2013-10-18 08:57:00

K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports

yes we did.Tim contacted US embassy every year to keep the petition case updated.We also paid the visa fee twice because it is only valid for a year.I guess were lucky,they grant us extensions.i think they it is really granted as long as you keep a contact with them and let them know the real situation.We need to be patient and work for our goal because we do not want to take any chances of losing the opportunity of living life together.

I'd read that was possible, you're just the first couple I've known that have actually done it.

Caryh

Male

Philippines

2014-01-29 10:01:00

K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports

wow,i havent notice that yet in our timeline..despite the long wait we're very thankful, that US embassy have extended the petition when we cannot comply with the income requirements yet..

Wow really! Thats great they would do that. Did you need to keep requesting extensions?

I'm truly happy for you two. I hope you two make a wonderful life together now. It's inspiring that you didn't give up on each other. It could not have been easy to be caught in that situation.

Caryh

Male

Philippines

2014-01-27 08:46:00

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From your time line

Your I-129f was approved in 174 days from your NOA1 date.

Your interview took 1131 days from your I-129F NOA1 date.

I remember you from back when you filed to. My wife and I filed for her K-1 after you by a few months. I couldn't even imagine still waiting. I'm truly impressed you two stuck through it together.

Caryh

Male

Philippines

2014-01-23 11:06:00

K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports

Congrats. Wow that is really long. Someday you've got to post the story behind it all.

Caryh

Male

Philippines

2014-01-23 10:56:00

Service Requests/Contacting Senators - does it actually help?

Stated on the USCIS website.

https://egov.uscis.g...rd/ProcTimes.do

I was going to post that. Texas is currently stating 5 months on the I-129F. Senator or congressman might get involved at this point if the OP has been waiting 5 months. I know our's did on my wife's AOS. We had in green card approval shortly afterwards. Those that were not more proactive at the time were tending to wait 2 to 4 months longer. The CSC was not meeting its published time frame for the majority of its cases at the time.

A trick the service centers appear to pull when they get behind, is they will immediately process a small percentage of petitions upon arrival. Because these are done many months early, their average, or published time, will appear months shorter than it is actually taking for most petitions. It is my opinion, that getting your congressman or senator involved at such times can help speed up the process for you by a couple months. If they're not pulling that trick, then it doesn't seem to help much, unless they've truly screwed up on your case, and then you often must have their assistance to get anything done.

Caryh

Male

Philippines

2014-05-15 10:06:00

K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports

Service Requests/Contacting Senators - does it actually help?

Nothing will do any good until your case goes over the published current processing time of the center that has it. My own experience with service requests is often you'll just get a letter saying wait another 30 or 45 days. You cannot put in a service request until you're over the processing time.

If you're over the published time, it appears getting a congressman or senator to look at case can sometimes, not always, help to get it brought to the top of the pile.

Caryh

Male

Philippines

2014-05-15 09:31:00

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K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports

It must be a county or state thing. Our marriage cert even uses my maiden name too because it asks for birth name. Geez.. So many rules and no standard marriage form apparently.

I'm sure it is. My first marriage I'm positive we had to sign. I remember the judge having the certificate ran into the room my ex wife was dressing in, then having me sign it, then him. He said congrats you're married. I said really, we didn't say anything yet, and we're not even in the same room, and he said yes, legally you are now married. :lol: He also said normally he waits until after the ceremony, but there was a college football game he had tickets for right after.

Caryh

Male

Philippines

2014-05-21 13:38:00

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I have no plan too, i just help my sister to register and then I end up asking them if I can change my status lol, I don't know what came out on my mind, stupidity I guess, and now I am here still a wake and keep thinking about it

You're more than likely going to go right through with it this way. But I'd say in the future, sign everything with your current name.

Caryh

Male

Philippines

2014-05-21 13:22:00

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I have like 5 different choices before the wedding. I kept practicing each to see which one I'm more comfortable with. Finally, on my wedding day, I have subconsciously used my old signature... Everybody laughed! I just ended up adding my husband's last name to it.

Now you've got me thinking I need to look at my marriage certificate to see how my wife signed it. :lol: Ok just dug it up. We didn't sign the marriage certificate?! Only the witnesses and the minster did. It has our names before and after marriage though.

Caryh

Male

Philippines

2014-05-21 13:20:00

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Thank u the truth is I am not worried if I don't get my I.d from them because once I'm already in U.S with my husband I don't think I can still use it. I just got worried about on what they said that "in philippine law once u are married you are require to change your signature" so I can't stop thinking until now,

The definition of a signature is your name written in a distinctive way. Your old signature is not your current name. Its not a law, its the definition of what a signature is that creates the problem with how you're signing it.

sig·na·ture

noun

1.

a person's name written in a distinctive way as a form of identification in authorizing a check or document or concluding a letter.

Caryh

Male

Philippines

2014-05-21 11:58:00

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Will take your advise:) as of for now I don't think I can do anything cause all my document are in the process in nvc stage. And we are done in uscis. Crossing my finger right now and hoping it won't affect everything cause we are almost close to the finish :'(

My wife didn't really like the process of learning to write her new signature. But she had it down before the wedding, even if it felt a little weird to her at first. I think a big part was figuring out how she wanted it to look and then getting used to the new feel of it. It wasn't long and it became totally automatic for her though.

Caryh

Male

Philippines

2014-05-21 11:52:00

K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports

And now I am more worried our cr-1 petition is already in the nvc stage worrying of having some problem about it. Anyway thank u so much for answering I really appreciate it and to answer your confusion I use that signature because I am more comportable with it and the lawyer that helping us in this visa told us it's ok to use the same signature.

As a touch of advice, I would start practicing your new signature, and get used to it. Move forward using the new signature on everything. It is not uncommon for a newly married woman to accidentally sign with their old signature. You may be asked to resign some things when this happens, but its not a shock to people. Based on this, you might just slide through right now. But it will become more of a problem as time goes on. And as I mentioned, there will be some cases you're not going to be allowed to use it or some service will be out and out denied because of it. Forcing you to get new ID's with a signature matching your name. As I mentioned, I have a bit of a nonstandard signature myself, but its much closer to a standard signature than your's, and mine causes me trouble at times.

Caryh

Male

Philippines

2014-05-21 11:38:00

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I already have an nbi and passport under my married name but I use the same signature when I was single on both. What will I do now? Am I really obligated to change my signature since I am already married? What will happened to all the paper I sign including my passport and nbi.

You're not obligated to do anything. But neither is a business or organization obligated to accept your signature as Mary Adobo, when your name is Mary Smith. I have no idea what will happen with your passport or NBI. Depends on if the businesses or organizations are willing to accept the mismatch you want to use. If they won't accept them, then you cannot get whatever service you wanted from them.

I have to say I'm rather confused why you want to sign your name in a way which is no longer your name. This will only create problems. Personally my signature is only my first name, I don't sign my last name. But there are some documents where that is not acceptable, and I have to sign also using my last name. It feels strange when I do it, but I don't have the choice if I want to get through that particular process. But at least part of my signature is the same as my ID's. You've got a further problem, because you have different name to.

Caryh

Male

Philippines

2014-05-21 11:03:00