Forum	Title	Content	Member	Sex	Country	Date/Time
Middle East and North Africa	Finding a job once they get to the U.S	QUOTE (Nawal @ Jul 29 2008, 11:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Insha'allah S and S! Thank god for all the good resources here and great support! So true Nawal. The support here is so amazing and helpful while going through this process!	S and S	Female	Iraq	2008-07-30 00:12:00
Middle East and North Africa	Finding a job once they get to the U.S	QUOTE (?Sora_9_Dam3a? @ Jul 29 2008, 10:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (S and S @ Jul 29 2008, 10:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (?Sora_9_Dam3a? @ Jul 29 2008, 07:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (S and S @ Jul 29 2008, 08:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I worry about this for my husband too. His english is great, but he is a medical school graduate so he is too educated for a lot of jobs. I have been working on ideas for him, but we can't know what will happen until he gets here. The refugee place is supposed to help him, but I heard the jobs they find refugees are basically like factory work for almost no pay Iraq has been a weird exception to most refugee countries because many Iraqis are well educated and we aren't set up to deal with that. I have been considering having my husband apply at Walmart or Walgreens. Has anyone tried that for their husbands? why didn't he try doing something with his medical education?!?!?!! i'm sure it'll be a little rough, but well worth it in the end! try researching about evaluating his degree and stuff...i'm sure you'll find a way around it...the longer wait, the more difficult it will get, i think... good luck! My husband isn't here yet so there isn't much he can do. He has been working for free in a hospital in Jordan because Iraqis are not legally allowed to work for pay. Unfortunately due to the problems in Iraq and moving around as a refugee he hasn't been able to do his official residency time. I checked into all the medical licensing and there are three tests he has to take before he can be licensed to start his residency. Also, they will accept his college in Iraq without an evaluation because his college is recognized by the medical association. The first two tests are about $700 to $800 a piece and he will not let me pay for them. They are eight hours long so he will really have to study before he takes them. They third test is done in only a few US cities and is an evaluation of his handling of actual patients. There is another fee for that, but I forget how much. On top of this Residency programs only start in June each year. Most Hospitals already start looking at prospective residents in August and finalize their decision by January. There is no way my husband will get the tests done in time to submit to any applications to resident programs before the deadline. This means he will have to wait until June of 2010 to begin anything. It does give him more time to prepare for the tests which is good. I checked around for some lower medical jobs but they all require certification. I checked the certification requirements and they all say a person must complete a certain course of study at a school. When I compared the classes under these jobs to my husbands college transcript I found mostly they are nothing alike. Basically he will just have to work whatever job he can find until he can start his residency. I am hoping he could at least get some position in a hospital or volunteer there so he will not lose his skills in the meantime. ..oh wow...that's complicated...and annoying....so, it'll take time, but insha Allah, it'll work out in the end. as for the certification, maybe he can take a course when he gets here. those little certificates really help because it gives them something from america...usually jobs that require those certificates don't look at educational background, so they won't give him a problem with the foreign degree and all. they're just looking to see if he passed the required course. i wish you two all the best and i pray that your united soooooooooon... Thank you so much for your input and prayers. Inshallah it will all work out and God will guide us in what is the right path to take.	S and S	Female	Iraq	2008-07-29 22:59:00
Middle East and North Africa	Finding a job once they get to the U.S	QUOTE (?Sora_9_Dam3a? @ Jul 29 2008, 07:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (S and S @ Jul 29 2008, 08:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I worry about this for my husband too. His english is great, but he is a medical school graduate so he is too educated for a lot of jobs. I have been working on ideas for him, but we can't know what will happen until he gets here. The refugee place is supposed to help him, but I heard the jobs they find refugees are basically like factory work for almost no pay Iraq has been a weird exception to most refugee countries because many Iraqis are well educated and we aren't set up to deal with that. I have been considering having my husband apply at Walmart or Walgreens. Has anyone tried that for their husbands? why didn't he try doing something with his medical education?!?!?!! i'm sure it'll be a little rough, but well worth it in the end! try researching about evaluating his degree and stuff...i'm sure you'll find a way around it...the longer wait, the more difficult it will get, i think... good luck! My husband isn't here yet so there isn't much he can do. He has been working for free in a hospital in Jordan because Iraqis are not legally allowed to work for pay. Unfortunately due to the problems in Iraq and moving around as a refugee he hasn't been able to do his official residency time. I checked into all the medical licensing and there are three tests he has to take before he can be licensed to start his residency. Also, they will accept his college in Iraq without an evaluation because his college is recognized by the medical association. The first two tests are about $700 to $800 a piece and he will not let me pay for them. They are eight hours long so he will really have to study before he takes them. They third test is done in only a few US cities and is an evaluation of his handling of actual patients. There is another fee for that, but I forget how much. On top of this Residency programs only start in June each year. Most Hospitals already start looking at prospective residents in August and finalize their decision by January. There is no way my husband will get the tests done in time to submit to any applications to resident programs before the deadline. This means he will have to wait until June of 2010 to begin anything. It does give him more time to prepare for the tests which is good. I checked around for some lower medical jobs but they all require certification. I checked the certification requirements and they all say a person must complete a certain course of study at a school. When I compared the classes under these jobs to my husbands college transcript I found mostly they are nothing alike. Basically he will just have to work whatever job he can find until he can start his residency. I am hoping he could at least get some position in a hospital or volunteer there so he will not lose his skills in the meantime.	S and S	Female	Iraq	2008-07-29 21:04:00
Middle East and North Africa	Finding a job once they get to the U.S	I worry about this for my husband too. His english is great, but he is a medical school graduate so he is too educated for a lot of jobs. I have been working on ideas for him, but we can't know what will happen until he gets here. The refugee place is supposed to help him, but I heard the jobs they find refugees are basically like factory work for almost no pay Iraq has been a weird exception to most refugee countries because many Iraqis are well educated and we aren't set up to deal with that. I have been considering having my husband apply at Walmart or Walgreens. Has anyone tried that for their husbands? Edited by S and S, 29 July 2008 - 07:35 PM.	S and S	Female	Iraq	2008-07-29 19:35:00
Middle East and North Africa	Humpday	QUOTE (Nawal @ Jul 31 2008, 12:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (charles! @ Jul 30 2008, 10:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (just_Jackie @ Jul 31 2008, 12:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Do da babies have a little fever? I always hated shot night. Need a call from your sexy voice? Better not, I get stiff when the wind blows. (did I just say that?) no wind tonight, i've been taking Can you give that stuff to infants? JK	S and S	Female	Iraq	2008-07-31 00:20:00
Middle East and North Africa	Humpday	QUOTE (julianna @ Jul 31 2008, 12:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Oh wow... they must be an incredible arm work out! I bet it is sooo nice to have your Dh take over at times. Are you working now or on maternity leave or just staying at home? Our plan is to basically not have me work once the babies start. I like that plan A LOT. Thats a nice plan!	S and S	Female	Iraq	2008-07-31 00:19:00
Middle East and North Africa	Humpday	QUOTE (Nawal @ Jul 31 2008, 12:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (julianna @ Jul 30 2008, 10:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Nawal @ Jul 30 2008, 10:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Julianna u just reminded me of my father...he'd do that to us when I was young...usually in frustrating situations and say in a sarcastic tone..."awww commmee herreee GROUP HUG"...I'd get so frustrated at him but always ended up crying from laughter! (Awww...I love my Daddy! LOL) QUOTE (just_Jackie @ Jul 30 2008, 09:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Good evening Insomniacs Club! How is your night? I'm peachy. I'm lying. jJ Jackieeeeeeeee {HUG} I'm up with the babies....LOL I think it will be LONG NIGHT! Do they keep you really busy? Do they sleep through any nights? LOL @ your dad! They do keep us pretty busy but my husband is a doll I swear I don't know what I'd do without him...he takes a lot of the pressure off or I'd go bonkers!! They do not sleep through the night yet...Nour (the girl) does a bit...sometimes a good 6 hours...that rocks! But Zain (the boy) he is a consistant 3 to 4 hour sleeper...He needs his food! LOL OMG today at the doctors Zain is 11.15 pounds (helllooo 12 pounds!!! LOL) and Nour is a petite 8.4...LMAO...what a difference! No wonder my arms hurt! I love hearing the joys I hope to someday share, lol. I am sure they keep your hands full, but they sound really great!	S and S	Female	Iraq	2008-07-31 00:14:00
Middle East and North Africa	Humpday	Hello Jackie!!! Sorry your not having a good night I should be in bed myself. I have to be up in six hours. Julianna, that was great your father did that. My father always tried to fix his own car too. In fact, my father hates dealing with new cars because some things are difficult to fix on your own with them compared to old cars. I generally keep newer cars so I don't have too many things go wrong with them. I did make the point of knowing how to change my own tire and it once saved me because I blew a tire in the middle of nowhere, hours from any family or friends. I had the tire changed within twenty minutes (my trunk was packed so it wasn't easy to reach the spare) and managed to make it to the next major city to get a new one the next day (my tire blew in the evening when every place was closed). I have this fear of electricity so when I need a new battery I am forced to let someone else change it out for me. That will definitely become my husbands job once he is here if I ever have that problem again, lol. As for the fear, I just got electricuted (minor ones) too many times and now I avoid it like the plague. I once got electricuted by the garbage disposal when I was checking it for any silverware before running it. I couldn't run a garbage disposal for years after that, lol. My mother accidentally touched an electric fence meant to keep dogs in while she was pregnant with me so it started early on in life, lol.	S and S	Female	Iraq	2008-07-30 23:59:00
Middle East and North Africa	Humpday	QUOTE (julianna @ Jul 30 2008, 11:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Nawal @ Jul 30 2008, 10:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (julianna @ Jul 30 2008, 08:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Nutty, have you maybe tried to get some ideas from a place like AA? it is very difficult, almost impossible, for one person to manage another person's addictions. Does he want to change? If he does, then there is hope. Otherwise, he will continue to thwart your efforts. Well, I had burst the upper radiator hose! It's fixed! We went and got a new one after pouring water in the radiator to see where it was leaking... then got more 50/50 coolant, went, poured in 6 liters of water initially and then did 2/3 the coolant and then actually couldn't add any more even after we turned the car on... so I must have lost a bit less than half my water. So I don't think anything else was hurt. I think the smoke started when the hose made a tiny split and then in my effort to get it to the parkinglot, the last 1/10 mile where the temperature started to raise is when the split increased and was basically blowing a coolant/water steam over the engine causing smoke. So today the car has been great, he looked sooo cute fixing my car, and I was so happy because that car is my most favorite object in the world and he had threatened to trash it if it cost more than $100 to fix it (total, with tax-- $21). So when we got home I started crying and hugged the car and hugged him and it was so awesome. Best day ever!!! The problem now, though, is that he wants to drive my car to "make sure it is safe" and has stuck me with his car-- that I can't see out of because it's made for people 5'10" and taller. it's soooo unsafe.... I can't see out of the back window or the side windows and I can't see the hood AT ALL lol. I want my car back! I just had a visual on that! LMAO Well, then I hugged them in a group hug. It was a touching moment. Actually, he started busting up laughing. That is so funny. I swear I would do the same thing in your shoes.	S and S	Female	Iraq	2008-07-30 23:33:00
Middle East and North Africa	Humpday	QUOTE (julianna @ Jul 30 2008, 10:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Nutty, have you maybe tried to get some ideas from a place like AA? it is very difficult, almost impossible, for one person to manage another person's addictions. Does he want to change? If he does, then there is hope. Otherwise, he will continue to thwart your efforts. Well, I had burst the upper radiator hose! It's fixed! We went and got a new one after pouring water in the radiator to see where it was leaking... then got more 50/50 coolant, went, poured in 6 liters of water initially and then did 2/3 the coolant and then actually couldn't add any more even after we turned the car on... so I must have lost a bit less than half my water. So I don't think anything else was hurt. I think the smoke started when the hose made a tiny split and then in my effort to get it to the parkinglot, the last 1/10 mile where the temperature started to raise is when the split increased and was basically blowing a coolant/water steam over the engine causing smoke. So today the car has been great, he looked sooo cute fixing my car, and I was so happy because that car is my most favorite object in the world and he had threatened to trash it if it cost more than $100 to fix it (total, with tax-- $21). So when we got home I started crying and hugged the car and hugged him and it was so awesome. Best day ever!!! The problem now, though, is that he wants to drive my car to "make sure it is safe" and has stuck me with his car-- that I can't see out of because it's made for people 5'10" and taller. it's soooo unsafe.... I can't see out of the back window or the side windows and I can't see the hood AT ALL lol. I want my car back! I'm so glad to hear you got your car fixed. I know it must have been difficult without it this last couple days. Too bad you can't drive it yet At least your husband could fix it. My husband never had his license, knows nothing about cars and his family tells me he wouldn't even ever go out to wash the car they had. I told him he will learn even if it means I must spray the water on him while I am washing it! lol I swear I love him so much because he has already done a lot of things his family swears he never did before he married me (like cook a meal, clean, etc). He has a lot of learning to do, but I know he will try in his own way to do his best for me. Edited by S and S, 30 July 2008 - 11:30 PM.	S and S	Female	Iraq	2008-07-30 23:30:00
Middle East and North Africa	Nasty little Secret in his past Samir Kantar	I don't have sympathy for anyone who kills innocent people. There is no excuse for it and they deserve harsh punishment. That goes for both sides of that conflict.	S and S	Female	Iraq	2008-07-30 22:54:00
Middle East and North Africa	visitors visas for MENA family members	QUOTE (julianna @ Jul 31 2008, 12:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (S and S @ Jul 30 2008, 11:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I don't see why she can't sleep in her own room, but there are still some things in middle eastern culture I haven't got used to. Maybe thats normal to not sleep alone??? Yeah, I imagine it's not considered very host-like of us to make her her own room or something. Sort of like how if they are respecting you, they all pretty much practically sit in your lap rather than spread out through the livingroom. They don't get into the idea of personal space much. I think it would be nicer though, because you could be free to dress and undress, etc. So we'll see. Maybe if I put it that way, he'll consider it. I didn't feel crowded with my husbands family. I did share a room with his sister since he was in Syria and I visited them alone in Jordan. I think they points you made about giving her privacy are valid. I hope he sees that.	S and S	Female	Iraq	2008-07-31 00:28:00
Middle East and North Africa	visitors visas for MENA family members	QUOTE (julianna @ Jul 31 2008, 12:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Nawal @ Jul 30 2008, 10:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I feel ya on this one.... Yeah, I don't know exactly how he thought we'd afford 2 of them! that would be over 5k! I'm hoping to calm his ideas about what he wants to do when she's here some... because what he wants to to practically drive all over creation and it's very expensive to stay in Chicago, etc., especially since he only wants to spend like 4 days on this.. and it will be over 1k for that. Now, I'm hoping he'll let her have her own room at our house though. he was saying before she'd sleep in our room and his brothers in another room and then no one in the third bedroom because he didn't think she should stay alone. I think she is a big girl and can do it. I don't see why she can't sleep in her own room, but there are still some things in middle eastern culture I haven't got used to. Maybe thats normal to not sleep alone???	S and S	Female	Iraq	2008-07-31 00:22:00
Middle East and North Africa	visitors visas for MENA family members	I hate that there is gender discrimination too though. Also, that story about the girl's FIL is still scaring me from the idea of bringing my husband's parents here someday to visit.	S and S	Female	Iraq	2008-07-30 23:41:00
Middle East and North Africa	visitors visas for MENA family members	QUOTE (venusfire503 @ Jul 29 2008, 10:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ok, I know there are 'official' things to read about this, but I want to know the reality of it. How possible is it for MENA family members to get visitors visas? My husband has his 2 year card now, but plans to get citizenship in the future. Will it be easier then, or doesn't it matter? I'd love it if his parents could visit, especially since my ex won't agree to having me take my kids over there. They've seen each other on webcam, but it's not the same. Without their father's permission, I think I can't take them there until they are 16 or 18 (the oldest is 11, the youngest is 5). His parents own a house, and his father works. I know he explained it to me somewhat before we filed the K1, so I know it has something to do with showing compelling reasons for them to go back after they visit.... My kids would really love to meet their step-grandparents. They'd also really love to go to Morocco, but that will probably have to wait. I'm curious how that works too. I hope you get some good answers.	S and S	Female	Iraq	2008-07-30 00:10:00
Middle East and North Africa	Charlesandnessa	QUOTE (charles! @ Jul 30 2008, 11:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (S and S @ Jul 30 2008, 11:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (charles! @ Jul 30 2008, 11:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (S and S @ Jul 30 2008, 10:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Now I have to get used to the name change. I thought the old name was kind of sweet! she used to be nessaandcharles and with mine being charlesandnessa, some were confused about who was who so she changed hers several months ago, i've been mulling over possible choices for a while. Actually I understand that. I was just messing with you. I have had problems with other people's names on here and trying to figure out which one is the husband and which one is the wife. It makes sense you chose to change it. i strongly considered sheik yabooti and ibin far'tin......... lol, somehow that wouldn't have suprised me	S and S	Female	Iraq	2008-07-30 23:16:00
Middle East and North Africa	Charlesandnessa	QUOTE (charles! @ Jul 30 2008, 11:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (S and S @ Jul 30 2008, 10:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Now I have to get used to the name change. I thought the old name was kind of sweet! she used to be nessaandcharles and with mine being charlesandnessa, some were confused about who was who so she changed hers several months ago, i've been mulling over possible choices for a while. Actually I understand that. I was just messing with you. I have had problems with other people's names on here and trying to figure out which one is the husband and which one is the wife. It makes sense you chose to change it.	S and S	Female	Iraq	2008-07-30 23:06:00
Middle East and North Africa	Charlesandnessa	I just discovered he posted a whole thread for himself over in OT about his name change! I guess he wasn't getting enough attention from this thread anymore, lol.	S and S	Female	Iraq	2008-07-30 23:01:00
Middle East and North Africa	Charlesandnessa	Now I have to get used to the name change. I thought the old name was kind of sweet!	S and S	Female	Iraq	2008-07-30 22:53:00
Middle East and North Africa	Charlesandnessa	QUOTE (Maggie724 @ Jul 27 2008, 01:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (S and S @ Jul 26 2008, 11:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Maggie724 @ Jul 27 2008, 01:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (S and S @ Jul 26 2008, 11:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Maggie724 @ Jul 27 2008, 01:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Give him a minute. He'll come slinking back in here..... QUOTE (Maggie724 @ Jul 26 2008, 11:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Give him a minute. He'll come slinking back in here..... PS: Did you know there is a limit on the number of quotes you can have in one message? And YOU S and S used up the max. That is why I had to delete it all and post my measley reply all by itself. AND I managed to quote myself. Dang I'm good. Sorry I noticed you managed to quote yourself, lol. Apparently I"'m well edumacated in VJ posting. I thought yoyu were going to bed early?? It's 11:30 pm my time so it's gotta be late where you are. Not many people are later than me. I'm usually up late. I should be going to bed already. I'm working my way there, lol. Good thing this computer is downstairs or I would be tempted to use it in my sleep!	S and S	Female	Iraq	2008-07-27 01:27:00
Middle East and North Africa	Charlesandnessa	QUOTE (Maggie724 @ Jul 27 2008, 01:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (S and S @ Jul 26 2008, 11:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Maggie724 @ Jul 27 2008, 01:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Give him a minute. He'll come slinking back in here..... QUOTE (Maggie724 @ Jul 26 2008, 11:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Give him a minute. He'll come slinking back in here..... PS: Did you know there is a limit on the number of quotes you can have in one message? And YOU S and S used up the max. That is why I had to delete it all and post my measley reply all by itself. AND I managed to quote myself. Dang I'm good. Sorry I noticed you managed to quote yourself, lol. Apparently I"'m well edumacated in VJ posting.	S and S	Female	Iraq	2008-07-27 01:24:00
Middle East and North Africa	Charlesandnessa	QUOTE (Maggie724 @ Jul 27 2008, 01:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Give him a minute. He'll come slinking back in here..... QUOTE (Maggie724 @ Jul 26 2008, 11:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Give him a minute. He'll come slinking back in here..... PS: Did you know there is a limit on the number of quotes you can have in one message? And YOU S and S used up the max. That is why I had to delete it all and post my measley reply all by itself. AND I managed to quote myself. Dang I'm good. Sorry I noticed you managed to quote yourself, lol. Edited by S and S, 27 July 2008 - 01:14 AM.	S and S	Female	Iraq	2008-07-27 01:13:00
Middle East and North Africa	Charlesandnessa	QUOTE (Maggie724 @ Jul 27 2008, 01:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (charlesandnessa @ Jul 26 2008, 11:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Maggie724 @ Jul 27 2008, 01:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (S and S @ Jul 26 2008, 08:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (charlesandnessa @ Jul 26 2008, 10:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (S and S @ Jul 26 2008, 10:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (charlesandnessa @ Jul 26 2008, 10:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Alhamdulillah @ Jul 26 2008, 10:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Asante Maroon @ Jul 26 2008, 09:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (charlesandnessa @ Jul 25 2008, 04:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> i'm at work right now, does that answer the question? Quite popular are we, Charles? ....You have a whole :whistle:thread dedicated to you! It's not the first.... probably won't be the last LOL true, usually it's like this: Bigger mob though. That one is kind of small! i didn't have a wide angle lense to capture everyone the last time they came after me With this economy, who can afford a better camera? Oh well, close enough! I knew you would start trouble sooner or later. one of my many talents. That and your 'hearing'! Good golly I posted that like 2 min ago. Thought you'd be sleeping at this hour. I noticed he hears well too. I just don't know how he does it.	S and S	Female	Iraq	2008-07-27 01:09:00
Middle East and North Africa	Charlesandnessa	QUOTE (charlesandnessa @ Jul 26 2008, 10:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (S and S @ Jul 26 2008, 10:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (charlesandnessa @ Jul 26 2008, 10:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Alhamdulillah @ Jul 26 2008, 10:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Asante Maroon @ Jul 26 2008, 09:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (charlesandnessa @ Jul 25 2008, 04:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> i'm at work right now, does that answer the question? Quite popular are we, Charles? ....You have a whole thread dedicated to you! It's not the first.... probably won't be the last LOL true, usually it's like this: Bigger mob though. That one is kind of small! i didn't have a wide angle lense to capture everyone the last time they came after me With this economy, who can afford a better camera? Oh well, close enough!	S and S	Female	Iraq	2008-07-26 22:59:00
Middle East and North Africa	Charlesandnessa	QUOTE (charlesandnessa @ Jul 26 2008, 10:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Alhamdulillah @ Jul 26 2008, 10:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Asante Maroon @ Jul 26 2008, 09:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (charlesandnessa @ Jul 25 2008, 04:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> i'm at work right now, does that answer the question? Quite popular are we, Charles? ....You have a whole thread dedicated to you! It's not the first.... probably won't be the last LOL true, usually it's like this: Bigger mob though. That one is kind of small!	S and S	Female	Iraq	2008-07-26 22:44:00
Middle East and North Africa	Charlesandnessa	QUOTE (brnidokiegurl @ Jul 26 2008, 02:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> see they just did the devil thingy and didnt say anything I guess your the only one not allowed to do that, lol. j/k	S and S	Female	Iraq	2008-07-26 14:43:00
Middle East and North Africa	Charlesandnessa	I don't know what I would do without the MENA crew. I would feel lost not knowing if I am just crazy for being depressed sometimes and unsure of how things will go. It really helps to have people to talk to that understand your situation, don't judge you for who you married and just generally support you. It keeps me busy too so my mind doesn't wander and get down and out.	S and S	Female	Iraq	2008-07-26 12:25:00
Middle East and North Africa	Charlesandnessa	QUOTE (Nawal @ Jul 26 2008, 12:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (S and S @ Jul 26 2008, 10:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Nawal @ Jul 26 2008, 12:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Rajaa_Reda @ Jul 26 2008, 07:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Charles..... I had to check out your pics.. I had to laugh at the "retirement" ceremony ... you look so bored. As a former dirt pounder I know that look. Also I think I was expecting more....... hair hummmm wonder why? Take care we don't need to tell you your one of MENA's favorites. Rajaa One of MENA's Favorites because he adds the spice called "testosterone" ... ha ha ha, we are lacking in that around here. No short supply of estrogen though! That is for SURE! And typically what keeps our threads so "hot n spicy" Hey, at least we aren't total bores! Then again, if you look at the top 20 posters for VJ, most of them are from the MENA crew, lol. We are a busy bunch!	S and S	Female	Iraq	2008-07-26 12:10:00
Middle East and North Africa	Charlesandnessa	QUOTE (Nawal @ Jul 26 2008, 12:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Rajaa_Reda @ Jul 26 2008, 07:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Charles..... I had to check out your pics.. I had to laugh at the "retirement" ceremony ... you look so bored. As a former dirt pounder I know that look. Also I think I was expecting more....... hair hummmm wonder why? Take care we don't need to tell you your one of MENA's favorites. Rajaa One of MENA's Favorites because he adds the spice called "testosterone" ... ha ha ha, we are lacking in that around here. No short supply of estrogen though!	S and S	Female	Iraq	2008-07-26 12:02:00
Middle East and North Africa	Charlesandnessa	QUOTE (Olivia* @ Jul 26 2008, 03:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes Scotland is very awesome! You'll have to stay in touch with me and let me know how his career in medicine goes here. Maybe you, DonnaA, and I could all meet up and get our men together when they're here. That would be great. Just a matter of working it all out. The first step will be getting through all those medical licensing tests. I want him to take time and study for them so he can get good scores. Also, I think it wouldn't be a bad idea if he could take a medical ethics class since the way we do things is different here than in MENA. We have tons more laws than they do when it comes to practicing medicine!	S and S	Female	Iraq	2008-07-26 11:35:00
Middle East and North Africa	Charlesandnessa	QUOTE (Olivia* @ Jul 26 2008, 03:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No problem! Don't ya think you'll get to travel tons when he's here working as a Doctor? At least we plan too! Another reason to hold off on kids for a bit. I don't know why we would travel. He will have to do his residency time and then we will just find a hospital to settle into. Our visits will probably be to see his family. I also have that plan for Scotland that he will be required to agree to, lol.	S and S	Female	Iraq	2008-07-26 03:25:00
Middle East and North Africa	Charlesandnessa	QUOTE (Olivia* @ Jul 26 2008, 03:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Still Kristiansand, Norway this time at the fort on the beach. I have more. I plan to rotate pix of there for awhile. There several cute ones. Thats really cool. Not sure I'll ever make it to that part of the world so post away so I can see them!	S and S	Female	Iraq	2008-07-26 03:21:00
Middle East and North Africa	Charlesandnessa	QUOTE (Olivia* @ Jul 26 2008, 03:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Oh! I cleaned out a space in the closet for him a year ago before everything went down with the Egyptian Military. My Mom has 4 storage units and one of them is big enough to fit an RV and it's totally packed. Nice pic Olivia, where is that?	S and S	Female	Iraq	2008-07-26 03:17:00
Middle East and North Africa	Charlesandnessa	QUOTE (Olivia* @ Jul 26 2008, 02:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Sigh. There is a bathroom upstairs still calling my name to be cleaned. Queen of procrastination here. I can do a quick clean on the bathroom this weekend since I worked for hours on it last weekend. No, the big project this weekend is the bedroom, primarily my closet. I only have a small one for myself and another small one for my husband when he gets here. I need to clear out the few things I threw in his closet, but my own closet is becoming a mess from lack of space. I really just need a bigger apartment. I have to keep putting things in my storage unit	S and S	Female	Iraq	2008-07-26 03:01:00
Middle East and North Africa	Charlesandnessa	I gotta do some house cleaning tommorow myself I was so busy this week I haven't done much.	S and S	Female	Iraq	2008-07-26 02:56:00
Middle East and North Africa	Charlesandnessa	Good morning Donna! I hope work went well for you.	S and S	Female	Iraq	2008-07-26 02:20:00
Middle East and North Africa	Charlesandnessa	QUOTE (julianna @ Jul 26 2008, 02:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What a weirdo to follow you around! Sometimes, some things are not worth trying to get out from-- like the picture on the internet thing. It's part of modesty but mostly protection in his eyes-- he once said to me something about how he couldn't imagine who all was seeing pictures of these people and who was making fun of it, jacking off, or whatever. It was his whole long speech about things and how someone could save it to their computer, etc. He sees this as being no different from not wanting your spouse to smoke or to insist they wear a seatbelt, or hope they don't show up topless out of the house. There's a whole list of things you actually wish your SO to do and hope they conform to doing, this just isn't one that comes up as often with two "western" people of average culture. Exactly, better to pick the battles and in some ways our husbands are right. We don't know who is seeing the picture. My being a muslim means I should try to be conservative and my husband being Iraqi, I want to protect him. You never know who might see his picture and then see what I write and put things together. It isn't safe for him until he gets here.	S and S	Female	Iraq	2008-07-26 02:15:00
Middle East and North Africa	Charlesandnessa	QUOTE (Olivia* @ Jul 26 2008, 02:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That's creepy. Yeah, the police ran the plates and gave me the name of who the truck was registered to, but I didn't know the name. They couldn't pull him over because technically the guy didn't break any laws. They just followed him until he left their district. Then I got them to follow me home until I left their district. I avoided going near my home so the guy couldn't know where I lived. Thank God I realized he was following me because he had really only made two turns with me when I got suspicious (though was behind me for about 5 miles at least).	S and S	Female	Iraq	2008-07-26 02:10:00
Middle East and North Africa	Charlesandnessa	QUOTE (Olivia* @ Jul 26 2008, 02:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> My Husband can't ban me from doing anything. It's almost a daily point of discussion. Well, some things are negotiable, but that means arguing for hours about it so I pick my battles. The picture and location thing wasn't worth it. He is just being protective. I had someone follow me for miles one day after I went to pick up my father from the airport. The guy wouldn't get out from behind me no matter how many turns I made (including going circles around a neighborhood). I finally had to call 911 and the police had to run the guy off. I think that happened back in February. Anyway, this has just made my husband more paranoid about my safety.	S and S	Female	Iraq	2008-07-26 02:06:00
Middle East and North Africa	Charlesandnessa	QUOTE (julianna @ Jul 26 2008, 01:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (S and S @ Jul 26 2008, 12:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yeah, that was the first rule my husband made when I joined this site. I am cheating and posting the cat since he didn't specify she couldn't be shown, lol. I cheated a few months ago and actually posted a pic of us together for a bit, but then took it down. I think I put another one up too. Sometimes I cheat and post a pic of me as a little kid, but then I feel bad and take that down too lol. I haven't posted pics of my cats in forever. I feel really protective over them LOL. lol, protective of the cats. I haven't cheated on that, though I once revealed on a mena slumber party which state I'm in, but my husband banned me from giving my location out either.	S and S	Female	Iraq	2008-07-26 01:57:00