Forum	Title	Content	Member	Sex	Country	Date/Time
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	Waiting for a NOA2 from CSC for your I-129F?	QUOTE (u2rsobad @ Dec 3 2007, 01:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Strange..I lived in Japan for 15 years and was never homesick for the states, but I've been back here 4 1/2 years and I'm still immensely homesick for Japan. Germany...was there 5 years ago with my fiance visiting with friends and being tourists...had a great time! Hope you have fun with your friends while you're there Aww...and don't cry StillThePrettiest...you can always visit home and who knows what the future may bring, your fiance may want to move to your hometown someday...as long as your together, it really doesn't matter but her hometown would be in Australia and she will be homesick for Europe mostly I think..	Ovaltine Jenkins	Not Telling	Czech Republic	2007-12-03 17:30:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	Waiting for a NOA2 from CSC for your I-129F?	QUOTE (StillThePrettiest @ Dec 3 2007, 01:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> in another life I was a German teacher... won a scholarship to study at the uni in Freiburg for a while... have friends scattered about the old East Germany... spent loads of time there... *suddenly immensely homesick for Germany * now how Europe homesick are you gonna be when you go to USA?	Ovaltine Jenkins	Not Telling	Czech Republic	2007-12-03 16:18:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	Waiting for a NOA2 from CSC for your I-129F?	QUOTE (StillThePrettiest @ Dec 3 2007, 01:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I got a great fare to Germany yesterday - £49.99 out, and £0.01p back of course, once the fees and charges were added it more than doubled, but it's still a great deal, and now I get to visit friends and go to the Leipzig Christmas Markets Hehe taxes taxes taxes ... but more important is that you will get to have a great time with your friends	Ovaltine Jenkins	Not Telling	Czech Republic	2007-12-03 14:23:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	Waiting for a NOA2 from CSC for your I-129F?	QUOTE (Tim Y @ Dec 2 2007, 08:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The problem with using Nebraska or Texas as the center is very few people within the last six months have put them on there timeline. Most change it to CSC because that is where there case is. Now the problem with that is it only takes a few potations that took over a year to get there NOA2 to mess the numbers up like it is now. The worst case would be if listed as CSC rather then TSC is maybe add a few days for the forwarding to California. And maybe after Your NOA2 date is entered change the center back to Texas.. The date given on my timeline was there for me to have a date to look forward to and thats it. Just my thoughts Someone correct me if I am wrong but I think I even read somewhere that later on the people who were supposed to file at TSC and NSC were then told to start filing at VSC...? So I think some TSC and NSC people are at CSC and the later ones are at VSC. Then it would really make sense to just say where the petition actually is and not where someone was supposed to file...	Ovaltine Jenkins	Not Telling	Czech Republic	2007-12-03 02:36:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	Waiting for a NOA2 from CSC for your I-129F?	QUOTE (Jeraly @ Nov 30 2007, 11:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Sounds like a grand plan!! So when you coming out again?! And u2rsobad - that was SUPER speedy!!! And with USPS being *so* good(!) as well!!! Sorry - am very bitter about my evidence taking six weeks to get to the US because they couldn't figure out how to deliver to the address I put on - even though it was the same as I always write it... Of course had it got there earlier I would now be a June filer and therefore would have been less likely to meet the wonderful July filers I come out of where? I was looking for some reasonable connection to London before Xmas but couldn´t find anything nice to get back here I am a June filer and met the wonderful July filers	Ovaltine Jenkins	Not Telling	Czech Republic	2007-12-03 02:24:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	Waiting for a NOA2 from CSC for your I-129F?	QUOTE (u2rsobad @ Nov 30 2007, 11:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> News flash.....My SO got packet 3 from the embassy yesterday!!! YEA!!! He can finally go to order his police certificate on Monday (in Japan you have to have paperwork from the embassy to order it) and will schedule his medical exam...I'm soo excited!! Finally, after all of the problems, we're going in the right direction! Come on CSC & VSC...we need more approvals here!! Congratulations	Ovaltine Jenkins	Not Telling	Czech Republic	2007-12-03 02:21:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	Waiting for a NOA2 from CSC for your I-129F?	QUOTE (StillThePrettiest @ Nov 29 2007, 12:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm just getting really depressed with the impending nothing I buy u and Jeraly a beer (or red ) :energetic:	Ovaltine Jenkins	Not Telling	Czech Republic	2007-11-29 15:53:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	Waiting for a NOA2 from CSC for your I-129F?	for everyone still waiting and feeling miserable may you get approvals this week and feel great	Ovaltine Jenkins	Not Telling	Czech Republic	2007-11-28 01:23:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	Waiting for a NOA2 from CSC for your I-129F?	QUOTE (Rob & Jin @ Nov 23 2007, 05:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> APPROVED !!!!! Nov 21st we got appoved according to USCIS website, what a great thanksgiving gift and we are together in China. Good luck everyone Congrats	Ovaltine Jenkins	Not Telling	Czech Republic	2007-11-23 20:25:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	Waiting for a NOA2 from CSC for your I-129F?	QUOTE (Jeraly @ Nov 23 2007, 09:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Gratz on the touch!! I just checked mine and still nothing... Don´t feel blue I´ll tell you what You filed about a month after us. You will be approved about a month after us. Your wedding date is about a month after us. We get married and you get married about a month after us Howz that? In the long run this pain will just be a history and you will be with your loved one soon	Ovaltine Jenkins	Not Telling	Czech Republic	2007-11-23 17:26:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	Waiting for a NOA2 from CSC for your I-129F?	QUOTE (StillThePrettiest @ Nov 20 2007, 04:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I would be the first to admit that; not a dud amongst them : ) how cool would it be if we COULD meet up from time to time... drown our sorrows in a nice glass of red, and forget USCIS for a time Yeah I have been thinking the same number of times We probly can´t live without each other cuz a bunch of us already got approved and we still keep sticking around waiting for our friends that are still waiting so they can join us It makes me a bit sad if we never decide to meet. So I guess we should	Ovaltine Jenkins	Not Telling	Czech Republic	2007-11-23 17:22:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	Waiting for a NOA2 from CSC for your I-129F?	QUOTE (Laura_Z @ Nov 21 2007, 06:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> i am very sorry too and we're shocked , this isn't happening to us...my god! Sorry to hear that u got denied Dont give up and fight. I know this must be really difficult for u. So sorry Did they tell u why? QUOTE (Jeraly @ Nov 21 2007, 11:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Considering getting Jeremy to call CSC... see if we can get any news... And YAY!! Projected date now moved back to Christmas Day!!! Any news from Jeremy?	Ovaltine Jenkins	Not Telling	Czech Republic	2007-11-23 16:50:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	Waiting for a NOA2 from CSC for your I-129F?	QUOTE (niceguy26 @ Nov 21 2007, 09:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I was trying to be patient, but today i finally decided to give CSC a call. After not getting much information from the lady, I asked if she could atleast tell me if an officer has my petition or not yet. SHe checked and said that they got it TODAY! I hope all goes smooth. I never had any touches or anything so this was pretty exciting for us. Good luck to everyone! Hope we all get NOA2 VERY VERY SOON!! Nice Hope it goes fast for u now	Ovaltine Jenkins	Not Telling	Czech Republic	2007-11-23 16:44:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	Waiting for a NOA2 from CSC for your I-129F?	R u kidding me? I just counted the K1 approvals and CSC have done 7 this week and 9 last week? Well hopefully they got a lot of rest during the holidays and they are all fresh for the next week to pump out at least 40 approvals	Ovaltine Jenkins	Not Telling	Czech Republic	2007-11-23 11:48:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	Waiting for a NOA2 from CSC for your I-129F?	Hehehe hi guys I have to catch up with reading cuz was away for a week but just wanted to write here first We found out we got to NVC on 21st and also left the same day so hopefully we hear something from the Embassy very soon Hope everyone is doing great I will update the timeline don´t worry Well I certainly hope after i catch up on reading I find out all the May and June filers have been approved already and that the July ones are being approved fast	Ovaltine Jenkins	Not Telling	Czech Republic	2007-11-23 11:42:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	Waiting for a NOA2 from CSC for your I-129F?	QUOTE (Jeraly @ Nov 17 2007, 02:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yeah - well thing is I wouldn't mind the wait if I just knew how it was all going to work out - thing is because everything is planned we just don't know how things will work out with the wedding already booked and all - I mean we know that we are getting married Feb 11 no matter what... hopefully it won't mean a K-3 app but who knows... we just have to wait... and I wish we were just waiting for the approval... not whether we will have to start all over again... :/ Yup..the uncertainty of everything is the worst. I hope for the best for you Noone wants to see starting you all over again I mean...see you starting (swapped the words)	Ovaltine Jenkins	Not Telling	Czech Republic	2007-11-17 17:49:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	Waiting for a NOA2 from CSC for your I-129F?	QUOTE (Jeraly @ Nov 17 2007, 02:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well let's face it - 11 a day isn't *too* unrealistic... On another note - I would prefer to win my NOA2 than a pack of gummi bears any day of the week... ...tho' beggars can't be choosers.... You getting all nervous cuz of the wedding date eh? Me too Not sure if us being approved 17 days ago or something like that is any helpful in the situation, since it still keeps sitting at CSC anyways I mean, we are definately happy to be approved. Wish they just took the stamp from us and send it on it´s way like I suggested. Then we wouldn´t be worried about the timeframe for the wedding and tickets...Oh well...maybe Monday is the day	Ovaltine Jenkins	Not Telling	Czech Republic	2007-11-17 17:42:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	Waiting for a NOA2 from CSC for your I-129F?	QUOTE (Tim Y @ Nov 17 2007, 11:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> And I am sure next week will be slow too. Lots of people take there vacation Thanksgiving week because family is in town and it only takes four vacation days rather then other non holiday weeks that take five. So 3 working days next week? They could send the crate with our stuff on Monday, approve 33 petitions (Jeraly wants to win something) and then have the rest of the week off...how about that?	Ovaltine Jenkins	Not Telling	Czech Republic	2007-11-17 15:54:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	Waiting for a NOA2 from CSC for your I-129F?	QUOTE (Rob & Jin @ Nov 17 2007, 08:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> how many approvals so far this week ? I wonder why u never go count them?	Ovaltine Jenkins	Not Telling	Czech Republic	2007-11-17 11:46:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	Waiting for a NOA2 from CSC for your I-129F?	So all the new approvals are coming out of Vermont. Does that mean Vermont finally woke up? Does that mean CSC is going to winter sleep now?	Ovaltine Jenkins	Not Telling	Czech Republic	2007-11-17 06:08:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	Waiting for a NOA2 from CSC for your I-129F?	QUOTE (weedebz @ Nov 16 2007, 01:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (StillThePrettiest @ Nov 16 2007, 09:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> believe it or not, I'd rather file through USCIS OFF TOPIC I've done 21 jumps now....5 static line at 2,000ft (solo jump but chute pulls automatically as attached to plane), 5 tandem skydives between 5,000 and 10,00ft and 11 solo skydives between 8,000 and 10,000 ft. It's a great thrill. My first jump was for charity and I was scared sh1tless. Then once I landed I was perm-a-grin for a week and I was hooked. Between that jump and walking the 96mile highland way in 6 days whilst carrying all our own tent and camping survival kit me and 5 friends have raised just over £18,000 for a cancer care charity after a close friend died from cancer aged 19 6 years ago. Thats amazing And sorry to hear about loss	Ovaltine Jenkins	Not Telling	Czech Republic	2007-11-16 16:49:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	Waiting for a NOA2 from CSC for your I-129F?	QUOTE (mox @ Nov 16 2007, 01:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Tim Y @ Nov 16 2007, 01:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thats a quote from "The Fifth Element" right? Zorg I think it was used in T5E, but the original quote "That which does not kill us only makes us stronger" is from Nietzsche, a German philospher. Of course, that which doesn't kill us can mutilate us horribly, but I try not to think about that... Yeah I don´t know this sentence from any movie...In Czech language we have been saying it ever since	Ovaltine Jenkins	Not Telling	Czech Republic	2007-11-16 16:47:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	Waiting for a NOA2 from CSC for your I-129F?	QUOTE (Jeraly @ Nov 16 2007, 12:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Haha - with the current totals I am really doubting we will make 33 this week... although stranger things have happened... It went from 4 up to 6! So we still have our hopes up	Ovaltine Jenkins	Not Telling	Czech Republic	2007-11-16 15:21:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	Waiting for a NOA2 from CSC for your I-129F?	QUOTE (Jeraly @ Nov 16 2007, 12:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Wahey!! 182!! Do I win a prize?!?!?! Might win the gummy bears if you win the sweepstakes	Ovaltine Jenkins	Not Telling	Czech Republic	2007-11-16 15:15:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	Waiting for a NOA2 from CSC for your I-129F?	QUOTE (StillThePrettiest @ Nov 15 2007, 11:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> tally for the week has crept up to four w00t Nothing is lost yet We still have Friday to look forward to and hopefully a lot of people will find out during the weekend	Ovaltine Jenkins	Not Telling	Czech Republic	2007-11-16 05:10:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	Waiting for a NOA2 from CSC for your I-129F?	QUOTE (TBoneTX @ Nov 15 2007, 01:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Interestingly, when I called the CSC yesterday and spoke with the Immigration Officerette, and I complained because my Case Status Online should have reflected touches from each of my calls, the Officerette said that calls do NOT necessarily or automatically result in a touch, even when someone calls to inquire about an RFE. This would explain why MY file hasn't shown any touches, but how does this correlate with everyone else calling and being touched as a seeming result of the call? T-Bone We had no touches...not even prior to the approval. Only got touched after we placed a service request cuz never received NOA1. No need to worry	Ovaltine Jenkins	Not Telling	Czech Republic	2007-11-15 20:21:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	Waiting for a NOA2 from CSC for your I-129F?	QUOTE (mox @ Nov 15 2007, 10:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Scott and Marta @ Nov 15 2007, 10:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Now how weird is that? I had a dream about StillThePrettiest How do you know whether you're dreaming of StillThePrettiest or Bert? I recognize the difference ...by the nose ofcourse	Ovaltine Jenkins	Not Telling	Czech Republic	2007-11-15 14:03:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	Waiting for a NOA2 from CSC for your I-129F?	QUOTE (StillThePrettiest @ Nov 15 2007, 10:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I hope I was being nice, and making people hot cross buns, or something of that nature Haha you desparately needed to go see your fiance and didn´t have money for a ticket or what, so you wanted to sell something to someone but noone wanted to buy it (if i can remember well it was just a sticker or something like that). So I bought it and you flew	Ovaltine Jenkins	Not Telling	Czech Republic	2007-11-15 13:19:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	Waiting for a NOA2 from CSC for your I-129F?	Now how weird is that? I had a dream about StillThePrettiest	Ovaltine Jenkins	Not Telling	Czech Republic	2007-11-15 13:10:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	Waiting for a NOA2 from CSC for your I-129F?	QUOTE (Tim Y @ Nov 14 2007, 09:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The funny thing is I was on the phone when I sent that message and I got three letters rong.. hehehe Well u r full of jokes these days haha	Ovaltine Jenkins	Not Telling	Czech Republic	2007-11-15 03:35:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	Waiting for a NOA2 from CSC for your I-129F?	QUOTE (Rodgiegirl @ Nov 14 2007, 10:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thanks! I feel bummed though because I was "for sure" that mine got sent on the 6th, but oh well, what can I do?? I was still hoping that we would be together for Christmas. At least I have my approval, I'm thankful for that. One question though, I've already got all my forms to send him, do you think they're going to be "expired" or too far off since they haven't sent it to NVC yet? Well maybe not because My NOA2 is dated the 1st and if they look at the supporting evidence it's dated after that, so what do you think? Hey Rodgiegirl yeah we have also been thinking we were sent off with the Nov 6th crate...I can´t think of any reason why it shouldn´t be that way. CSC claims they wait to fill the crates so our stuff should have already been in it. Anyways...we are pretty patient as for now. This part of the waiting doesn´t seem too bad. Unless ofcourse it turns to be 6 weeks instead of like 3 weeks We will see Meanwhile we are still hoping for our late January wedding Jeraly how about u? Where are your hopes standing right now? Anything changed? I hope there are gonna be much more approvals by the end of this week. One total that´s sad	Ovaltine Jenkins	Not Telling	Czech Republic	2007-11-14 15:48:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	Waiting for a NOA2 from CSC for your I-129F?	QUOTE (weedebz @ Nov 14 2007, 06:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> well add this July filer to this weeks total!!!!! Congratulations	Ovaltine Jenkins	Not Telling	Czech Republic	2007-11-14 09:17:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	Waiting for a NOA2 from CSC for your I-129F?	QUOTE (StillThePrettiest @ Nov 14 2007, 04:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> well, if they're active they can tell me, and I'll add them back in, as I said... if you look at the waiting lists there are some that go back to 2004; there's no way THEY'RE all still waiting I agree it's not going to be completely accurate, but the fact is some people start a timeline on here, and then stop coming in for whatever reason, and it never gets updated... obviously we can't contact them all to ask them whether we should take them OFF, so we'll do it the other way, and ask them to tell us if they should be put back ON I kinda agree so I will let it be	Ovaltine Jenkins	Not Telling	Czech Republic	2007-11-14 08:27:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	Waiting for a NOA2 from CSC for your I-129F?	QUOTE (TracyOz @ Nov 14 2007, 05:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> we are probably only 10% of the real number of K-1's).. Yes...they receive 2-3 thousand appliations a month...and yes an easy application can be adjudicated as soon as in 15 mins...so if your one doesn´t bring up any security flags or something, it can as well be adjudicated in 15 mins...after they dig through the thousands of applications that are waiting before your one Good luck	Ovaltine Jenkins	Not Telling	Czech Republic	2007-11-14 08:23:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	Waiting for a NOA2 from CSC for your I-129F?	Because I read their thread not too long ago...there were quite a few people still waiting from 2006 and early 2007...I think the guy from 2006 who was actually finally approved a week or two ago was complaining cuz he felt like he was the only one waiting so long and quite a few people responded that they also have been waiting	Ovaltine Jenkins	Not Telling	Czech Republic	2007-11-14 07:17:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	Waiting for a NOA2 from CSC for your I-129F?	QUOTE (StillThePrettiest @ Nov 14 2007, 03:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Marta, I think all Rob means is that the List is just a bit of fun - it's interesting, and gives us a rough idea of how many VJ members are ahead of us in line, but that's all it is... we CAN'T make it accurate, so all it can do is give us a broad idea so he wasn't meaning that the people didn't matter, just that whether the list shows them or not doesn't really make much difference in the end... and as a few people have said: if USCIS have said they've finalised all petitions before April 12, then it's pretty safe to assume that those VJ members still showing open petitions simply haven't updated them; no one else has been removed from the list I believe most of them are still waiting	Ovaltine Jenkins	Not Telling	Czech Republic	2007-11-14 06:48:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	Waiting for a NOA2 from CSC for your I-129F?	QUOTE (Rob & Jin @ Nov 13 2007, 05:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Scott and Marta @ Nov 13 2007, 06:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Jeraly @ Nov 13 2007, 04:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> And like someone said - anyone who wants to be added from before can always mention it and be re-added... I think that will help keep track of the active members who are still awaiting NOA2 from before April 12 Or they wont bother posting it if they dont usually post much Really it does not matter a hoot How would it make you feel if people said that about u? Play nice	Ovaltine Jenkins	Not Telling	Czech Republic	2007-11-14 06:32:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	Waiting for a NOA2 from CSC for your I-129F?	QUOTE (Jeraly @ Nov 13 2007, 04:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> And like someone said - anyone who wants to be added from before can always mention it and be re-added... I think that will help keep track of the active members who are still awaiting NOA2 from before April 12 Or they wont bother posting it if they dont usually post much	Ovaltine Jenkins	Not Telling	Czech Republic	2007-11-13 20:25:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	Waiting for a NOA2 from CSC for your I-129F?	QUOTE (moxcamel @ Nov 13 2007, 10:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Let's not get too dramatic here. We're only talking about a spreadsheet that StillThePrettiest is voluntarily maintaining. Nobody's being deleted from VJ or USCIS. well feel free to have yourself deleted ...noones saying anything against StillThePrettiest...and noones saying anything about VJ or USCIS	Ovaltine Jenkins	Not Telling	Czech Republic	2007-11-13 15:05:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	Waiting for a NOA2 from CSC for your I-129F?	Everyone before April 12 be aware! They wanna remove u I think being a couple of places closer to the top of the list doesn´t help anyone to get their approvals faster and it´s not nice to be deleting those who have been waiting ever since...it was just last week when a 2006 filer was approved	Ovaltine Jenkins	Not Telling	Czech Republic	2007-11-13 12:49:00