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K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reportsjanuary filers!
QUOTE (SusieLuvsPaul @ Feb 29 2008, 11:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
thanks u guys smile.gif I hope you get yours very soon!!!

When he's here we will put together packet 3 and get more pics and stuff for interview and when he gets home in april he can get the police records and send the packet.

but for now i'll just celebrate heheh i'm like runnning around telling everyone some are like approved for what? then I have to explain the whole thing haha tongue.gif


Yep, it's great fun ... if they could just understand without the whole explanation!!!

I'm still so very excited for you. These January approvals have me a nervous wreck (in a good way of course!)
Amanda+StephenFemaleScotland2008-02-29 12:00:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reportsjanuary filers!
QUOTE (IrieCat @ Feb 29 2008, 11:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This is so great! congrats to all approved! I swear I have no fingernails left - I am so anxious!!
Has anyone taken notice what countries the SO are from? Do you think that matters - I mean I have heard it doesnt really matter but I can't help but think it does.
I am so happy for you all - celebrate!!!!

Cat


Well I imagine what country does play into it somehow!! But to what extent I'm not sure.

I've still got my fingernails, but I'm so very anxious too!!!

Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeee smile.gif If not today for us waiting, maybe March will be a very, very, very good month
Amanda+StephenFemaleScotland2008-02-29 11:50:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reportsjanuary filers!
QUOTE (SusieLuvsPaul @ Feb 29 2008, 10:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Application Type: I129F, PETITION FOR FIANCE(E)

Current Status: Approval notice sent.

On February 29, 2008, we mailed you a notice that we have approved this I129F PETITION FOR FIANCE(E). Please follow any instructions on the notice. If you move before you receive the notice, call customer service. ohmy.gif



OMG OMGOMG!!! yay!! just checked today woooo smile.gif


he's coming in two weeks i'm wondering if the papers will get to him before he leaves so he can fill him out? and how long after he fills them out that they schedual an interview cause hes leaving april 5th, would the interview be that soonnnn?? ohmy.gif

ah! I think I'll just concentrate on being happy!!! hehehehe for today anyway then i'll start worrying about other things hehe cause I don't know waht to do at all after this step! lol



Yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!! Congratulations!!!! I'm so happy for you! kicking.gif kicking.gif
Amanda+StephenFemaleScotland2008-02-29 11:26:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reportsjanuary filers!
QUOTE (dbears @ Feb 29 2008, 04:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Amanda+Stephen @ Feb 29 2008, 01:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (SusieLuvsPaul @ Feb 29 2008, 12:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
thanks guys smile.gif

I gotta stop obsessively checking my status! ah since some jan filers got approved i check multiple times a day! it's addicting hah
Yeah, I feel the need to use this emoticon ....

helpsmilie.gif Somebody tell me how to stop!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wacko.gif


i have a bottled unicorn fart here, they said it is the only antidote for USCIS online stat & Igor's list addiction.... if you really want I could send you some yes.gif



OMG ... I so did not need to read that post first thing this morning!!!!! laughing.gif But thanks for the good laugh!!!
Amanda+StephenFemaleScotland2008-02-29 07:52:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reportsjanuary filers!
QUOTE (SusieLuvsPaul @ Feb 29 2008, 12:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
thanks guys smile.gif

I gotta stop obsessively checking my status! ah since some jan filers got approved i check multiple times a day! it's addicting hah



Yeah, I feel the need to use this emoticon ....

helpsmilie.gif Somebody tell me how to stop!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wacko.gif
Amanda+StephenFemaleScotland2008-02-29 00:46:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reportsjanuary filers!
QUOTE (KitEEgirl @ Feb 28 2008, 09:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well... we officially hit "50 days since we received our NOA1" today. I have to admit, it's gone faster than I thought it would....

How's everyone hanging in there today?


We haven't been waiting but only half the time you have, but we've already said how the time is going by pretty fast. Before we filed, the days seemed to drag on and on, now it seems like he was just here over the holidays, yet it's been 8+ weeks.

Here's hoping you see your NOA2 soon good.gif
Amanda+StephenFemaleScotland2008-02-28 09:34:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reportsjanuary filers!
QUOTE (dbears @ Feb 28 2008, 12:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
my choice of word actually makes him laugh also. he said its too formal.. i am trying and practicing to loosen up a little.

hey, I LOVE THE BRITISH ACCENT.... but what can i do, I fell for an american southerner blush.gif


Oh, I love his british accent. But there is no way I'd knock the charm of a southern accent. As for the formal bit, that's what goes on with us too. I'm much more laid back in terminology ... commonly American! laughing.gif He's much more "proper" smile.gif

And exactly, what can ya do? Last I knew, we can't always control who we fall in love with ...
Amanda+StephenFemaleScotland2008-02-28 00:18:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reportsjanuary filers!
QUOTE (dbears @ Feb 28 2008, 12:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
least i be misunderstood, i know not everyone in the south are rednecks and i think those rednecks jokes are just that, "jokes"... it is the same way, here in my place, Filipinos from other regions always use our diction here when they want to make a character the butt f joke in the movies.. but people from my region don't really take those seriously. we always know better... the same way, me and my fiance just laugh about redneck jokes, he even says he is a redneck sometimes ("here's the sign")... but it doesn't really affect him in any negative way.


Oh by no means was I implying anything bad. Southern men are gentleman at best wink.gif After living in the south for 20 years and being surrounded by them, and having many of them as friends, I wouldn't want it any other way. I have no complaints about "rednecks" or southerners. I can't say a thing, I managed to pick up a southern accent living here for so long. Most of my family back in the midwest calls me a redneck now!!! laughing.gif Like you ... to me it's all a joke (as you said)!

In the end, none of these such things matter. What matters is you found each other!! And soon, you'll be in the same place!!!!

Edited by Amanda+Stephen, 28 February 2008 - 12:10 AM.

Amanda+StephenFemaleScotland2008-02-28 00:09:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reportsjanuary filers!
QUOTE (dbears @ Feb 27 2008, 11:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes, we could be neighbors soon good.gif. My tarheel prince said he's already looking into shirts for me, one with confederate flag on it or a shirt that says "I AM A REDNECK GIRL", i guess he just want to rub it on me laughing.gif.... he is really crazy sometimes but i love him so much and when he uses that 'totally redneck accent" (that is what he calls it), i just die laughing, it is way too funny. laughing.gif


Mmmm, sounds like a southerner through and through. I won't hold it against him. According to him, I'd be a Yankee. I was born in the midwest, but I moved to this area when I was 13. I've left a few times on my career path, but somehow ended up back again smile.gif And yes, the southern accents, I've had some good laughs over it too. But then again, mine has me laughing most of the time with his UK accent. And the word choices ...

What can ya do?! content.gif
Amanda+StephenFemaleScotland2008-02-28 00:04:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reportsjanuary filers!
QUOTE (dbears @ Feb 27 2008, 11:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
you've got to cross your fingers and toes... yes.gif

You are from North Carolina, that is where my fiance lives so that is where i am actually headed for. He is from Johnston county btw. smile.gif

Good luck on you visa journey good.gif


Wow ... small world. Johnston county is right next to my county. Infact, it's about 20 miles from where I live. So that means we may be "neighbors" some time this year wink.gif

Thanks for the good wishes, the very same to you!!! smile.gif
Amanda+StephenFemaleScotland2008-02-27 23:35:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reportsjanuary filers!
QUOTE (greeneyedgirlfl @ Feb 27 2008, 08:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That would be soooooo great!!!


Can only hope that it might happen

Maybe, maybe, maybe ..... *fingers crossed*
Amanda+StephenFemaleScotland2008-02-27 21:39:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reportsjanuary filers!
Yep, that would be a great date to get it. I'd like nothing better than to fly overseas and tell him we got our NOA2 ... that just requires getting it before March 13th .....

goofy.gif
Amanda+StephenFemaleScotland2008-02-27 18:51:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reportsjanuary filers!
QUOTE (dbears @ Feb 27 2008, 05:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I had a crazy dream last night... (well it's thursday morning here in my part of the world by the way) I dreamed we were touched again and then the status had changed... changed not to approval stat but to RFE STAT wacko.gif . In my dream they were asking for my son's school record to prove that he is indeed 11 years old (my son is just 8 yr old actually & i have a 10 year old daughter) laughing.gif

I think this is really getting into me... as in really really getting into me.


I so know that feeling. Amazing how this process really gets completely inside your entire thought process!!!

Just as long as they remain dreams smile.gif No nightmares, no nightmares, puhlease!!!! blink.gif
Amanda+StephenFemaleScotland2008-02-27 17:36:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reportsjanuary filers!
QUOTE (gujraja @ Feb 27 2008, 11:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I also think there's a luck aspect to it, but I do have some questions and curiosities:

Did you all file with the same method as suggested by visajourney? (I did) , or did you guys go through the legal route, or a combination of many websites? I feel this could affect our results the most.

Is there a way to see your "touch" history ? Or can you always see the last one only as shown by the "last updated" column ? Does that mean you guys check everyday to see whether you've been touched ?

thanks!
-gujraja


I found this board when we thought we were ready to file, then after reading the boards, I went OK, we SOOOOOOOO are not ready to send this off. I'm so glad I found VJ and the guides. It was lots of reading and trying to figure out how/what/where, etc. It's been helpful from so many standpoints. The guides are great. The people here are fantastic!!! And well, who else is going to understand you but other people going through the same process, the same crazy emotions, etc.

It's kind of hard not to check, especially with the January approvals!!!! You keep hoping you might just get approved too!! whistling.gif

The only way I know to see the "touch" is by the last updated column!
Amanda+StephenFemaleScotland2008-02-27 11:58:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reportsjanuary filers!
I know that feeling exactly. I feel like I'm on a rollercoaster ... never know how the day is going to go!! It's starting to be for him too! I try not to check the case status very often ... if I don't, he asks if it changed, or goes and looks and tells me!


What to do, what to do?
Amanda+StephenFemaleScotland2008-02-27 11:51:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reportsjanuary filers!
Yep, it's definitely exciting to have seen the handful of January filers get their NOA2!!


And of course, trying to be hopeful that we will all follow soon! I'm not sure what emotions to feel now!!!!
Amanda+StephenFemaleScotland2008-02-27 11:16:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reportsjanuary filers!
QUOTE (greeneyedgirlfl @ Feb 25 2008, 02:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
OMG....I AM COMPLETELY HYPERVENTILATING...I CHECKED THE USCIS SITE AND SAW THAT WE WERE APPROVED...I AM SO ABOUT TO PASS OUT!!!!!! (Looking for emoticon that expresses my mood...can't find one)



Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am so happy for you!!!! And WOW .... that was fast!!!!

kicking.gif
Amanda+StephenFemaleScotland2008-02-25 15:09:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reportsjanuary filers!
QUOTE (greeneyedgirlfl @ Feb 24 2008, 10:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Me too!!! Only my second touch!!! I hope it's good news (or at least, "I'm just moving this file across my desk" news!)!!!


We were touched today too!!!! cool.gif (That makes #4)
Amanda+StephenFemaleScotland2008-02-24 12:04:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reportsjanuary filers!
Hello!

I will be filing our I-129F petition next week. I've read over the boards for the past 2 months so we could prepare the paperwork while he was visiting over the holidays.

So we are officially joining the journey as January filers!

Wish us luck!

~Amanda

Amanda+StephenFemaleScotland2008-01-09 18:27:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsExtreme happiness
Congratulations!!!!!!!! good.gif
Amanda+StephenFemaleScotland2008-08-15 11:00:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsFebruary 2008 filers
Congratulations to those with approvals. And hopefully those of us waiting will hear something soon ....
Amanda+StephenFemaleScotland2008-03-16 13:12:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsFebruary 2008 filers
QUOTE (Saffyre @ Mar 10 2008, 04:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Amanda+Stephen @ Mar 10 2008, 07:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Robyn @ Mar 10 2008, 03:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
For me.. i think i'll stick with the paystubs, company letter and the tax forms I already have. Don't want to deal w/ the bank to be honest. My gross pay is more than enough for my household and him.


Likewise, I have 4 years of tax transcripts, will get a letter from my company and provide paystubs. I don't want to deal with the bank either!


I don't think Toby wants to deal with the bank either, maybe tax transcipts would be an easier option. Should he already have them or will he need to request them?


I went ahead and ordered the transcripts from the IRS. They are free and take about 7-10 business days to get in the mail. I waited until I filed 2007 taxes though to request them.

See this website: http://www.irs.gov/i...=110571,00.html
Amanda+StephenFemaleScotland2008-03-10 15:28:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsFebruary 2008 filers
QUOTE (Robyn @ Mar 10 2008, 03:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
For me.. i think i'll stick with the paystubs, company letter and the tax forms I already have. Don't want to deal w/ the bank to be honest. My gross pay is more than enough for my household and him.


Likewise, I have 4 years of tax transcripts, will get a letter from my company and provide paystubs. I don't want to deal with the bank either!
Amanda+StephenFemaleScotland2008-03-10 14:44:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsFebruary 2008 filers
QUOTE (aravis227 @ Mar 10 2008, 01:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I know it doesn't help to complain about it and get upset...but I've never been good at waiting, I think that whole phrase about "patience is a virtue" is really just a load of ####### wink.gif

So...I'm going to change the topic. I make enough to qualify as a sponsor, but I was thinking about having a co-sponsor anyway because it really can't hurt. My mom makes like 4 times the poverty level for her situation (Did you know that the poverty level for 4 people is about 20k? Seriously...I make more than that for just ME and I struggle sometimes. I looked that up last night and it floored me.) Do you think it is over-doing it to have a co-sponsor when I already make enough on my own?


If you are above the poverty level, then you don't need a co-sponsor. I mean you are right, won't hurt, but is it really necessary?

And I too have my days where I think that phrase is a load of ####### biggrin.gif

Wanting to be with loved ones is hard enough, then having to add in the immigration process just makes it unnecessarily painful at times! I feel like I'm going out of my mind wacko.gif
Amanda+StephenFemaleScotland2008-03-10 12:32:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsFebruary 2008 filers
QUOTE (Sal and Jay @ Mar 10 2008, 01:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Saffyre @ Mar 10 2008, 04:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I can't believe someone was approved in 19 days!! Yikes.

I keep hopefully checking the site every day now - they haven't touched my file since 24th Feb... sad.gif


mine either hon


Make me #3 on that count sad.gif
Amanda+StephenFemaleScotland2008-03-10 12:05:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsFebruary 2008 filers
QUOTE (MissYoko @ Mar 10 2008, 11:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And i wonder why i'm never touched! crying.gif
I would like to be touch, i would like that CSC work like VSC... sigh...

Ok i have to think about something else wink.gif


I pray that the CSC starts working through the files faster!!!! And I hope everyone finds strength and patience during the process, whether slow or fast!!
Amanda+StephenFemaleScotland2008-03-10 10:57:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsFebruary 2008 filers
QUOTE (Robyn @ Mar 10 2008, 11:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Now I know the normal thought and answer to this but I'm still scratching my head trying to figure it out. Since Friday my case has been 'touched' 3 times whistling.gif . I'm beginning to worry. It's still way too early for approval (at least that is what i keep telling myself of course) but still. I pray i'm not in for an RFE crying.gif

anyone else have thoughts??


Don't panic, nothing bad, just means someone has been handling your file. Probably looking over everything to make sure nothing is missing, submitting the namecheck, etc. It is exciting though, because it means it's being looked at. My file was touched about 3 times within the 1st/2nd week it was received, then 2 weeks went by and it got touched again, and now nothing wacko.gif Most people at VSC have been getting quite a few touches in the first two weeks!

A lot of people don't even notice touches because they don't OC like the rest of us watching for it. Sometimes I wonder if it would be better not to have access to the USCIS site, it makes it much more anxiety filled, checking, and not seeing it touched, or getting excited because it got touched.

In the end, most people say it means nothing, other than your file is being handled, which doesn't mean anything more than that. Hope this helps a little!

Just think of it as progress ... you'll be fine!!! smile.gif
Amanda+StephenFemaleScotland2008-03-10 10:53:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsFebruary 2008 filers
QUOTE (monty001 @ Feb 29 2008, 12:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I had a general question about the K-1 Visa. Do you guys know how long it's valid for after it gets approved?

From what I've read:

Beneficiary has 6 months to use it once the Visa is issued. Then once in the US, the 90 day timer starts to get married.
Amanda+StephenFemaleScotland2008-02-29 12:08:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsFebruary 2008 filers
QUOTE (aravis227 @ Feb 29 2008, 11:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Sappy @ Feb 29 2008, 09:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ha Ha but it doesnt mean i will get approved quickly, someone on here is in November filer in vermont and still waiting for approval. So there doesnt seem to be any reason to know why some get appoved quickly and some dont. If you know let me know lol


laughing.gif take a look at the CSC approvals. They seem to be just getting started on September.


Well the only thing i know that could possibly slow it down once the file is in someone's hands is the name checking. More common names could slow the process down. Then again, there are probably a multitude of reasons!

Here's hoping we all get speedy approvals!!!!!
Amanda+StephenFemaleScotland2008-02-29 11:32:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsFebruary 2008 filers
QUOTE (sarahs @ Feb 28 2008, 06:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Woohoo! I just got home from work & my NOA1 hard copy was waiting for me
kicking.gif


Yayyyyyy! Now you don't have to try and decipher the numbers on the back of the check!!!!

Congrats! good.gif
Amanda+StephenFemaleScotland2008-02-28 18:42:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsFebruary 2008 filers
QUOTE (HiTech @ Feb 28 2008, 05:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Off to the races on 2-27-2008 VSC.


Welcome ... and here's to a speedy journey smile.gif

QUOTE (BlakeandOlha @ Feb 28 2008, 05:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (MissingHer @ Feb 28 2008, 03:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi All,

If they recieve my I-129F today or tomorrow, I'm on the Feb filer ship but if they recieve it on the 1st, am I considered a March filer on the site smile.gif ... ???

Good luck too all smile.gif


If they receive it tomorrow you'll only be on the Feb filer list once every 4 years laughing.gif

This gets talked about a lot - who's in what month. Igor's list uses the mailing date as being the most consistently accurate. The NOA1 date that people enter seems to have a lot of inconsistencies - not with the date on the NOA1, just the number people enter. Go wherever you feel more comfortable - better yet, be active in both, there's lots of good people here. Congrats on getting it all together. Now you get to sit back and relax for a bit.


Agreed -- I filed at the end of January, but my NOA1 was February, so I kind of hang out in both the January & February threads smile.gif

Anyhow ... Welcome and here's to a speedy NOA2 smile.gif
Amanda+StephenFemaleScotland2008-02-28 18:11:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsFebruary 2008 filers
The best I have been able to make out is:

EAC0849952673 -- which isn't a valid case number. blink.gif

The vertical lines just suck, and I'm still trying to use some image software I have wink.gif
Amanda+StephenFemaleScotland2008-02-28 14:07:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsFebruary 2008 filers
QUOTE (Robyn @ Feb 28 2008, 12:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
bah my check hasn't been cashed yet <cry>


It will be soon!!! Then you can go loony like the rest of us wacko.gif
Amanda+StephenFemaleScotland2008-02-28 12:57:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsFebruary 2008 filers
QUOTE (HaleyandSteven @ Feb 27 2008, 05:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Got my NOA1 in the mail today! They received my package on Feb. 21st, and the NOA is dated Feb. 22nd. I think that's pretty fast, isn't it? Anyway, now I can finally start checking the website... every day. smile.gif Yay!!


Congratulations!!! good.gif

Then again ... blink.gif you'll be like the rest of us now, driving yourself crazy checking the site wacko.gif

Best of luck to a speedy journey!
Amanda+StephenFemaleScotland2008-02-27 18:54:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresNOA2 recieved
Congratulations & best wishes!!!!!!! smile.gif
Amanda+StephenFemaleScotland2008-07-30 11:54:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresApproval Notice Sent From VSC
Congratulations!!!!!! star_smile.gif
Amanda+StephenFemaleScotland2008-07-30 11:56:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresWe got our interview date!
Congratulations!!!! kicking.gif
Amanda+StephenFemaleScotland2008-07-30 11:55:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresI GOT INTERVIEW DATE
Congratulations!!!!!!! good.gif
Amanda+StephenFemaleScotland2008-07-30 11:56:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresApproved CSC from March !!
Congratulations!!!! good.gif
Amanda+StephenFemaleScotland2008-07-30 11:54:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresOMG I130 Approved VSC is working!!
Congratulations!!!! smile.gif
Amanda+StephenFemaleScotland2008-07-30 11:53:00