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CanadaCanada FAQ
I have a thought...

Many people -- usually Americans and Canadians -- come to this forum in search of help and answers, right? Well, instead of replying to similarly-themed posts week after week, why don't we make a FAQ that answers the most common questions?

We don't need to reinvent the VJ Visa FAQ or the Wiki. All we need to do is address concerns relating to Canadians and Americans.

If you don't think this is needed, let me ask you this: How often have we seen, "Will I lose my Canadian citizenship if I become an American citizen?" The answer is obviously no. However, most people probably wouldn't know that. So instead of new threads popping up around old questions, let's make a one-stop post for all relevant questions and answers regarding U.S. immigration for Canadians.

I suggest we pool all of the most common questions (with correct answers) in this thread and use that to make one large FAQ. This might mean more work in the short-term, but it'll give people what they're looking for right away and limit repetitive questions to a minimum.


DeadPoolXMaleCanada2008-12-22 04:56:00
CanadaDeclaring Jewelry
Perhaps you could send the ring using FedEx? I've always found them to be expedient and reliable. I'd recommend insuring it, just to be safe.

If you mail the ring, then customs won't make you declare it at the border or airport and they probably wouldn't question you (thereby giving you a seat in secondary) or possibly confiscate it. The fact is you could merely write down that it's a ring (forgetting the engagement part) since it is a ring. Without being questioned and forced to answer, any customs officer who views it written on the package would probably not bother anymore with it.
DeadPoolXMaleCanada2008-11-26 10:20:00
CanadaDeclaring Jewelry
QUOTE (SapphireDreams @ Nov 25 2008, 12:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So I don't get it.

Neiks, if you say there would be no tax or duty, why did Carla's man have to pay GST?

I'd either say the officer didn't know or remember that rule or he did know it and merely demanded GST since he could and as a form of punishment. I've found that quite a few Customs officers (on both sides) are on a power trip whenever visitors enter the country.

Anyway... I'd suggest declaring it. However, if you really don't want to, there are other ways of getting around it. The trick is to put it somewhere they can't search or at least, do easily. I know how, but I won't specify on here. If you really want to know, PM me. Just be aware that unusual cases do occur, so it's always possible that no matter what you do and where you hide it, you could be found out. If you attempt to trick customs and they locate the ring, you'll be in a lot more trouble than if you merely "forgot to declare it" or outright did declare it from the beginning.
DeadPoolXMaleCanada2008-11-25 17:34:00
CanadaOpinions on the "most recent" Israeli-Palestinian conflict
The problem is that the Palestinians are pawns. The Arab nations surrounding Israel hate the Palestinians, but they hate the Israelis more. In using the Palestinians are their "chess pieces," those nations are able to get their dirty work done for them.

Think about it. It make sense in some perverse way. Why send Syrian and Jordanian people out to kill the Israelis (when it might mean Syrian and Jordanian deaths) when they can use the Palestinians instead? If Palestinians are killed, then no one was harmed in Syria, Jordan or wherever else. Even better for those hostile surrounding countries is that they can claim "Israeli aggression" without implicating themselves in the process.

Israel has a policy of "you hit us, we'll hit back harder." This policy is highly understandable given the anti-Semitic feelings and violence that have occurred against Jews for the past 2000 years or more. In much of the world, covert (and sometimes overt) anti-Semitism is alive and well. "Never again" is the Israeli slogan. No matter what people may think of Israel (or Jews as a people and religion), the hard truth is that Israel will respond with force if violent actions are taken against it.

I've always said that "peace won't occur until Palestinians care more about their relatives than hurting the Israelis." This means that the Palestinians need to stop supporting terrorist groups such as Hamas, who attack Israel with suicide bombers, car bombs and by firing rockets into Israel. Provoking a nation which houses far better technology and a highly trained military force that tends to respond forcefully is generally considered an unwise move.

If the Middle East has any hope of obtaining peace, the Palestinians need to stop being manipulated and realize that it only hurts them to attack Israel. Once the attacks cease (or at least greatly diminish), I'm sure Israel would encourage the creation of a peace treaty and look forward to opening trade with the Palestinians and other nations around it. Such actions would only serve to benefit all parties.
DeadPoolXMaleCanada2009-01-12 16:33:00
CanadaSites you visit while experiencing boredom
I'm sure some of you have already seen these sites from the OT Forum, but in the event you haven't or simply forgot, Free Rice and Free Flour are both entertaining and claim to fight world hunger.
DeadPoolXMaleCanada2008-10-27 11:15:00
CanadaMy apology to you all...
I would like to render an apology to the Canadian Forum crowd.

I know I sometimes come across as someone without much sympathy to situations and espouse some extremely strong opinions. I do not, as some others have hypothesized, intend to start fights or act in a antagonistic manner. I think part of the reason I come off as a much harsher person online than off is due to the overall lack of vocal tone, facial expression and body posture. Regardless, I could probably choose my words a bit more carefully.

I do not hate Canada. Do I like the United States more? Yes and I'm not ashamed to admit it. The U.S. is my home country and for all of its problems, I really do love it. I am American through-and-through, just as many here wish to always remain Canadian, even if American citizenship is procured.

I moved to Canada for my wife. Most, if not all, of the people here did the same, only in reverse. I am positive that the majority in this forum would have been happy to live out the rest of their lives in Canada. The same is true for me and the United States. I sometimes feel that, no matter how long I stay in Canada, I will never truly feel at home. I can't help but think that many here have similar feelings about the United States.

Perhaps some of my issues with Canada have been due to unfortunate circumstances. I was rudely threatened by the CBSA officer in secondary when landing here (she expressively told me that if I didn't do exactly as she said, she'd call security and would deny my entrance into the country) and the Canadian government spelled my name wrong. To this day, they are convinced that they have my name correctly spelled even though I have both American and Canadian documentation that proves otherwise. In addition, I've experienced some negative situations with healthcare here, a freak snowfall in BC that hasn't occurred in decades, and I am without many of my belongings (such as my PC and car), all of which will be arriving soon.

None of the above means I regret my decision to move to Canada. If being together with my wife necessitates a sacrifice here and there, I am willing to do it. I'm sure many of you feel the same about your spouse and the move to the United States, as well.

Overall, I wish to impress upon those here that my intent was never to act rude or express inconsideration for the experiences of others. Regardless of my aggressive nature and the fact I can't promise I won't step on a few toes, I will try to remain civil and understanding while on here.
DeadPoolXMaleCanada2009-01-12 14:38:00
CanadaTwo issues in Canada that I don't understand
QUOTE (Rob and Mel @ Jan 13 2009, 04:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Sprailenes @ Jan 13 2009, 03:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
A lot of people say they would just get eaten up by the states if they attempted to separate. There's separatists in Alberta too.

Canada... we're just a bunch of whiners. tongue.gif


Well, they are just punch drunk with oil money now aren't they? I remember about 10 years ago, there was a small movement for California to separate. Granted, it wasn't realistic, but it was quite informative. California is very different from the rest of the United States. We invented "Dude", "Road Rage", and we have the Lakers. Do I need to say anymore? kicking.gif

I remember when it was all about the Los Angeles Lakers vs the Boston Celtics. Those were the pre-Jordan years. tongue.gif
DeadPoolXMaleCanada2009-01-13 20:29:00
CanadaTwo issues in Canada that I don't understand
Seeing as how I am not Canadian, I have trouble understanding a couple of issues. Here they are...

1. If a woman wishes to have a double-barreled name (i.e. Smith-Jones), why must she fill out a "change of name" form in British Columbia? It wouldn't take a huge leap in logic to understand that a woman with a double-barreled surname, after reviewing her birth and marriage certificates, wouldn't be the same person. As far as I know -- and I may be wrong about this -- this isn't a problem in other provinces. Perhaps the worst part about it is the woman will have her birth certificate legally changed. Why should she have to go through that? It seems odd and unnecessary.

2. What is the deal with Quebec? I know it's part of Canada, but there seems to be some animosity between Quebec and the rest of the Canadian provinces. I'm not quite sure I understand the reason why or the origin of it. Could someone here help me out a little?
DeadPoolXMaleCanada2009-01-12 15:16:00
CanadaWhat did you want to be when you a child?
QUOTE (Ber + Ter @ Jan 14 2009, 01:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I love clowns! As long as they're not the ''IT'' clown. >: (

My wife has had a fear of clowns ever since she saw that movie.
DeadPoolXMaleCanada2009-01-14 21:26:00
CanadaWhat did you want to be when you a child?
I saw Top Gun when I was a kid and after that, I wanted to be a fighter pilot (or in the case of Maverick and Goose, a naval aviator). Unfortunately, I couldn't do it because part of the requirements include 20/20 vision. I may have that while wearing glasses, but there would always be the chance -- no matter how slim -- that I'd lose then when performing an aerial maneuver.
DeadPoolXMaleCanada2009-01-14 18:28:00
CanadaA few questions...
1. I remember reading a while back that some department stores in the U.S. (like Macy's) will give discounts to someone with a foreign passport. Is that still true? If not, that's okay, but it'd be nice. I've already looked at some department store websites and they say nothing about it (although most of these websites aren't too good to begin with).

2. My wife is worried that there will be some sort of complication when we travel. I have my PR card (although the middle name is spelled incorrectly; I plan on fixing that when I get back) and my U.S. passport. Going down to the U.S. won't be a problem for me and coming back to Canada won't be a problem for her. She's just worried that some overly zealous nitwit of a customs officer will give me a hard time when coming back to Canada, since my middle name doesn't match word-for-word. My landing papers have my name with the same incorrectly spelled middle name. For reference, my full name -- with the middle name spelled correctly -- is on my passport and the visa given to me by the Canadian government.

3. When going through customs, should my wife and I go together or separately? We're traveling from YVR to IAH and back.
DeadPoolXMaleCanada2009-01-16 13:49:00
CanadaChild born on flight over Canada deemed Canadian citizen
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This is from the article...


"Delta Air Lines, which owns Northwest, does not impose travel restrictions on pregnant women, but it does recommend that women in their final month of pregnancy consult a doctor before flying."


Wow...there aren't even any rules against someone traveling at that time in the pregnancy. I guess it is up to the individual then.

Most airline tend to have different rules. More often than not, the FAA won't force rules and regulations on airlines unless it involves certain flight issues or passenger safety. A case like this, involving a pregnant woman at nine months, wouldn't come under that classification since it'd be her choice to board the flight. Even if such a rule was implemented to bar near-term pregnant women, I'm sure some sort of lawsuit would result.

These sorts of issues come up time and time again when consideration pregnant women. If you look carefully at some rides at any amusement park, the warning signs suggest that pregnant women (among those with potential health issues) don't go on the ride. They do not, however, implicitly force the woman to avoid it. The one situation where amusement parks do enforce restrictions on rides is when it comes to a child's age and height. I'm sure that was the result of a major lawsuit many years ago.
DeadPoolXMaleCanada2009-01-12 15:06:00
CanadaBritish Expressions/Words Canadians Use
I've learned all of my British English from Monty Python. star_smile.gif
DeadPoolXMaleCanada2009-01-20 12:38:00
CanadaWar Deserters told to leave Canada..
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QUOTE (flames9 @ Jan 13 2009, 11:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Funny how some enjoy freedom, but not willing to sacrifice for it. As it stands now, women can't be drafted.

I tend to think of that as sexist. I really do.

Women have fought for the right to be considered equal in all aspects of life, including the military, and yet... women aren't forced to sign up for the draft. We don't have a draft, obviously, but the point remains that if it was reinstated, women would not be considered as possible draftees.

Women weren't originally considered because of gender-based thinking at the time. It was assumed that men would be better at warfare while the women stayed home. Today, it's a little different and in most areas of life, a woman can do whatever a man can.

Because of this, I fail to see how women can demand equal rights without signing up for the draft, just like men. You can't be fully equal unless you take both the good and the bad.


Well, as I understand it, sexual inequality is rampant in the US military. Typically, women who do serve are typically in support roles and not in active combat. Despite the fact that some women desire these positions. Military logic is just strange sometimes.

As far as I know, women are allowed to take on air combat roles. In other words, they can be pilots (or naval aviators) and go into combat that way. Honestly, I think that's a hell of a lot better than being a soldier on the ground. If you're a pilot, not only are you a commissioned officer, but you can actually get a shower and a decent bed to sleep in after the mission.
DeadPoolXMaleCanada2009-01-13 20:21:00
CanadaWar Deserters told to leave Canada..
QUOTE (flames9 @ Jan 13 2009, 11:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Funny how some enjoy freedom, but not willing to sacrifice for it. As it stands now, women can't be drafted.

I tend to think of that as sexist. I really do.

Women have fought for the right to be considered equal in all aspects of life, including the military, and yet... women aren't forced to sign up for the draft. We don't have a draft, obviously, but the point remains that if it was reinstated, women would not be considered as possible draftees.

Women weren't originally considered because of gender-based thinking at the time. It was assumed that men would be better at warfare while the women stayed home. Today, it's a little different and in most areas of life, a woman can do whatever a man can.

Because of this, I fail to see how women can demand equal rights without signing up for the draft, just like men. You can't be fully equal unless you take both the good and the bad.
DeadPoolXMaleCanada2009-01-13 15:02:00
CanadaWar Deserters told to leave Canada..
QUOTE (trailmix @ Jan 13 2009, 08:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And this: You dont know much about the military then....you make the other guy die for his country and you protect your buddies.

Not sure what you mean here?

He's paraphrasing General George S. Patton, which said something similar to the men he was commanding. It was a very inspirational speech for the time.

I fully realize how important it is for a soldier to be trained in certain ways. Boot camp and the military itself shouldn't be a vacation. However, making others feel like complete ####### -- while perhaps successful in some cases -- can't be the one and only method to producing a good soldier.

Maybe that works when signing up voluntarily. That person opted for it and should know what they're getting into. A civilian who's been forced into the military probably won't respond anywhere near as well, since they didn't volunteer to enter the service. Training really needs to be tailored to the trainees involved. That doesn't mean personal training for individuals, but perhaps a difference in how volunteers and draftees get trained. The mindset between those two groups could be staggering.
DeadPoolXMaleCanada2009-01-13 14:07:00
CanadaWar Deserters told to leave Canada..
QUOTE (desert_fox @ Jan 12 2009, 06:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (DeadPoolX @ Jan 12 2009, 02:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't even understand the idea behind a draft. Sure, I get why it might be used to gain a larger military force, but the entire idea behind it is counter-productive.

Let's say a country -- any country -- has a draft policy or reinstates it. The draft will rip men away from their families, friends and career. Now tell me... how many people would want that? By my count, not too many.

If the military has a force comprised of unwilling soldiers, how well does anyone think they'll work? They don't want to be there. They won't fight well (unless it's to save their lives) and could, in some cases, actually prove to be a hindrance to the soldiers who originally signed up. What Second or First Lieutenant really wishes to have a platoon primarily consisting of soldiers who're merely counting the days until their tour of duty is up? I doubt very many would since he wouldn't be able to entirely rely on them.

This isn't to say that all drafted soldiers are bad or worse than the soldiers who signed up willingly. Some are and some aren't. However, logic would dictate that if someone is forced to do something they don't want, they won't put forth everything they have in order to accomplish it.


Actually for many cases its a shame that there isnt a draft. Made a man out of you. Made you accept responsibility. Gave you a direction. Gave you disipline. Got you awqay from your momma.

I had friends (during the draft days, that I was a part of), that had the choice of going to jail or joining the Army. After 8 weeks, they were ""yes sir yes sir"", and straighted out their life.

The first thing they tell you at basic training is "that your mother was wrong", and proceed to tear you down and make a man out of you.

I'm sure it did "make a man out of you" and made you learn discipline. However, I still maintain that volunteering for military service is vastly preferable to being drafted.

Your example of "jail or military" isn't a great one. Sure, they might have been yelling "Sir, yes, sir!" after all was said and done, but most people don't have to deal with that. A lot of people who have jobs and families would be entered into the military without having a say in the matter.

Besides... sometimes "tearing a person down" isn't the best method. It might work in some cases, but I can't imagine telling someone that "their mother was wrong" would really motivate them to fight -- and possibly die -- for their country.
DeadPoolXMaleCanada2009-01-12 23:00:00
CanadaWar Deserters told to leave Canada..
QUOTE (flames9 @ Jan 12 2009, 12:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think many take for granted their freedom as well as the people that "volunteer" and sign up for their countries Armed Forces! Their is a price to pay for freedom. If all of a sudden (not going to happen) people no longer sign up for the Armed Forces,then what? Countries still need an Armed Forces to protect that freedom. Sure it would suck if a draft was activated, but the consequences may be worse if "enemy forces" took over your country!!

I tend to agree. However, given the choice, I'd prefer volunteer soldiers over ones who're drafted.
DeadPoolXMaleCanada2009-01-12 15:54:00
CanadaWar Deserters told to leave Canada..
I don't even understand the idea behind a draft. Sure, I get why it might be used to gain a larger military force, but the entire idea behind it is counter-productive.

Let's say a country -- any country -- has a draft policy or reinstates it. The draft will rip men away from their families, friends and career. Now tell me... how many people would want that? By my count, not too many.

If the military has a force comprised of unwilling soldiers, how well does anyone think they'll work? They don't want to be there. They won't fight well (unless it's to save their lives) and could, in some cases, actually prove to be a hindrance to the soldiers who originally signed up. What Second or First Lieutenant really wishes to have a platoon primarily consisting of soldiers who're merely counting the days until their tour of duty is up? I doubt very many would since he wouldn't be able to entirely rely on them.

This isn't to say that all drafted soldiers are bad or worse than the soldiers who signed up willingly. Some are and some aren't. However, logic would dictate that if someone is forced to do something they don't want, they won't put forth everything they have in order to accomplish it.
DeadPoolXMaleCanada2009-01-12 14:58:00
CanadaEmployment Discrimination in the US
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I do think that Canadians should learn more about their own country. I'm sure it's quite fascinating in parts.

Huh? blink.gif We learned about our own country! headbonk.gif

Oh yeah? What happened on February 30th in Canada? tongue.gif


Nothing. February only has 28 days.

lol.. yeah

me wonders if deadpool meant that as a trick question laughing.gif

Just trying to keep everyone on their toes! ph34r.gif

Ahhhh, you have jokes. And here's me thinking you were such a serious dude. tongue.gif

Ooops! Looks like we may have hijacked hheaven's thread. Sorry, hheaven. blush.gif

/thread hijack

I tend to make a lot of puns. My wife said that one day I'll say so many puns that she won't be able to "take it anymore" and toss me out the window. If I had a parachute, that'd be awesome.
DeadPoolXMaleCanada2009-01-30 13:19:00
CanadaEmployment Discrimination in the US
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I do think that Canadians should learn more about their own country. I'm sure it's quite fascinating in parts.

Huh? blink.gif We learned about our own country! headbonk.gif

Oh yeah? What happened on February 30th in Canada? tongue.gif


Nothing. February only has 28 days.

lol.. yeah

me wonders if deadpool meant that as a trick question laughing.gif

Just trying to keep everyone on their toes! ph34r.gif
DeadPoolXMaleCanada2009-01-29 21:15:00
CanadaEmployment Discrimination in the US
QUOTE (Krikit @ Jan 29 2009, 12:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (DeadPoolX @ Jan 29 2009, 03:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I do think that Canadians should learn more about their own country. I'm sure it's quite fascinating in parts.

Huh? blink.gif We learned about our own country! headbonk.gif

Oh yeah? What happened on February 30th in Canada? tongue.gif
DeadPoolXMaleCanada2009-01-29 15:56:00
CanadaEmployment Discrimination in the US
QUOTE (Sprailenes @ Jan 29 2009, 05:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I should add that I don't think its important to drill the information of the "founding fathers" into kids at a young age, I would rather them learn how to spell and add first. But I guess thats the way its done here.

But my son could tell you the presidents in order and who they were. He finds American history more interesting than Canadian history. I guess he's already been assimilated into the culture. tongue.gif

I've found that I know far more about American History than my wife does about Canadian History. I was able to inform her of certain important dates in Canadian History (I'm a geek, so I research stuff). My wife's not dumb at all; she's somewhat uninterested in modern history and finds ancient history far more interesting. If you wanted to know details about the Greeks or Romans or Egyptians or any other ancient culture, she'd have it for you.

The point, however, is that I think Americans are more familiar with their own country's history due to the teaching methods employed in schools. Whether or not that's good or bad or part of indoctrination is up to personal interpretation. I do think that Canadians should learn more about their own country. I'm sure it's quite fascinating in parts.
DeadPoolXMaleCanada2009-01-29 15:20:00
CanadaEmployment Discrimination in the US
I remember being taught U.S. history, Texas history and World history.

I hated Texas history. It's not bad in of itself (some of it is actually interesting), but we were taught it nearly every year -- and it was the same damn information! There's only so many times you can read about the Alamo.

U.S. history is self explanatory. We had two courses over it in junior high and high school. Oddly enough, they teach the first part of U.S. history in 9th grade and then the second part in 11th. Why there's such a large gap is beyond me. It would seem to me that it'd make more sense to teach the second part right after the first. Otherwise, it seems highly unlikely that students would remember a damn thing from their previous course.

In 10th grade, we were taught World history. While I did have an excellent teacher (I was in a Honors class), the course mostly covered an all-encompassing view of history around the world. One thing I hated about World history was that we had to somehow cover the Sumerians to post-WWII in the timespan of a single high school course.

There was a World Geography class, but hardly anyone took it (the course was an elective) and it didn't cover nations, but geographical features. Usually these geographic features were in reference to the United States. Every once in a while something was taught that was outside the country.

I was never taught anything about Canada. I didn't even have to learn the major cities or even the capitol of Canada, as well. The U.S. was covered, but Canada was never considered important enough to warrant any instruction.

Fortunately for my wife, I like doing independent research. That's how I learned about Canada. If I were to rely on the education system, I would barely know Canada even exists.
DeadPoolXMaleCanada2009-01-27 15:39:00
CanadaEmployment Discrimination in the US
I see two problems...

1. Americans do prefer to hire other U.S. citizens. While this is sometimes due to patriotism, I think it's more about "what they know." In other words, an American employer understands U.S. education and experience better. Everyone in the U.S. knows of MIT, Harvard, CalTech, UT, UC Berkeley and so on. Very few Americans know of McGill, UBC or other universities. To make matters even more confusing is that the term "college" and "university" mean essentially the same thing in the U.S., whereas they're two completely different institutions in Canada.

2. This may be an unfortunate stereotype, but many in the U.S. think Canada is a backwards nation, full of ice and snow and populated by Eskimos. Not everyone thinks this way, but enough do. To be fair, there are tons of stereotypes about different states and cities within the U.S. that many believe, as well.

The point is that some U.S. employers may feel that a Canadian education simply isn't as good as an American one. Whether or not that's true might depend on the individual and where they went to school. However, that may be one of the issues facing Canadians seeking work in the United States.
DeadPoolXMaleCanada2009-01-26 17:49:00
CanadaEmployment Discrimination in the US
I haven't found that employers discriminate against me being American. In fact, unless I specify where I'm originally from, they usually can't tell.

I've found the best thing to do --regardless of where you are -- is to learn everything you can about wherever it is you're applying to work. In the interview process, they tend to like the fact you've put some effort into learning about their business.
DeadPoolXMaleCanada2009-01-25 12:09:00
CanadaCome Again?
My wife says "ashfault." I never realized this. On the other hand, who has a ton of discussions about pavement? tongue.gif

The first time my wife and I realized we pronounce some words differently was when "foyer" came up. She stopped mid-conversation and asked me to repeat it. I said "foy-yer." She said "foy-yay."

This got interesting since she said it sounds "uneducated" to pronounce the word as "foy-yer." Likewise, I said it sounds "pretentious and stuck up" to say "foy-yay." We weren't calling each other that, but reflecting on how American and Canadian English can be so similar yet so different.
DeadPoolXMaleCanada2009-01-30 13:15:00
CanadaCome Again?
Speaking of language and the British, my great-grandmother (born in 1899) was from England. She came over to the U.S. before she hit her teens.

She forced herself to drop her accent since kids were making fun of her and making her life a living hell while at school. I think it's sad she felt she has to do that. While I prefer many of the American spellings and sayings to the British ones, I don't think changing everything about the way you speak is a necessity.
DeadPoolXMaleCanada2009-01-25 12:16:00
CanadaCome Again?
In regards to the English language... why do we have the letter "C"? And don't tell me it's for "cookie." tongue.gif

It seems to me that "C" does the job of either "S" or "K". So "C" is redundant in a way. It's confusing, too. A word that has a "C" in it might be pronounced in a soft or hard way. That can't make those words easy to learn.

Sure, English is an amalgamation of many different languages, but... it still doesn't make sense. Why make the language more difficult than it needs to be? unsure.gif
DeadPoolXMaleCanada2009-01-20 12:12:00
CanadaCome Again?
QUOTE (Kathryn41 @ Jan 17 2009, 08:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
the funny thing about the washroom - I ran into that here in the South and so now say restroom - BUT I was watching an old Andy Griffiths show and what do you think they said? They used the word washroom! Aunt Bea was telling Opie to go to the washroom and brush his teeth before bed or something like that - so they did use to use that word here!

The word that surprised me here was calling license plates 'tags'. We need to get new stickers for our tags at the tag office! It sure was confusing untiil I figured out what tags were.

I think that's because "washroom" was originally used in the U.S., but for some reason or another, it got changed later on. Apparently, Canada decided to keep it.

QUOTE (JillA @ Jan 18 2009, 07:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
LOL yes pissed means drunk. "I got pissed out of my head last night" does not mean angry!

And Kathryn, the tags issue happened to me just weeks ago! When I went to register my car, my husband said I had to go to a tags place. I said you mean the DMV? What are you talking about, tags? I had never heard plates been called tags before.

I call my "gym shoes" sneakers, I never call them anything else! My husband calls them gym shoes too, even though he doesn't wear them to the gym!

Another one is my purse. People here call it a pocketbook, and I didn't understand what a pocketbook was at first.

I think the whole "pissed" thing depends on how it's used. If someone says they got "so pissed they couldn't stand up," it'll probably mean they're drunk. Likewise, if someone says "so-and-so really pissed me off," then that'd mean anger.

I say "sneakers." I've never liked "tennis shoes." As I've said before, in Texas they often prefer "tennis shoes," but since my parents were from New York, most of the terms I use were learned from them.

I've heard "purse" referred to as a "pocketbook." I like "purse" better, but the other works.

QUOTE (SomberCat @ Jan 18 2009, 01:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Here are a few more that I've noticed. Regarding school, I say grades and he says marks. Also, he differentiates between college and university. Americans use the word college to cover both. I say 5th grade or 8th grade and he says grade 5 or grade 8. Along that same line, he doesn't use the terms freshman, sophomore, junior or senior to denote 9th, 10th, 11th and 12th grades. In fact, he'd never heard of those terms.

Yeah... I had to remember to say "university" instead of "college" around my wife's parents. I once had a criminology professor from Ontario and when she learned I was visiting my in-laws (for the time), she specifically told me to say "university" and not "college," since the latter means something entirely different in Canada.

Truth be told, my in-laws have traveled to the U.S. plenty of times and so they knew how Americans use "college." I just think it's funny that they still use imperial measurements (which I, of course, find easier than metric). Actually, what's really interesting is that although Canada adopted the metric system some time ago, all of the people I've met still use feet and pounds when describing height and weight.

I guess old habits die hard.

QUOTE (Texanadian @ Jan 18 2009, 04:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I tend to keep things simple myself. To me roads are made of either concrete (boooo, too noisy and bumpy) or they're made of blacktop (yaaaay, now if only Houston would build their roads of it)

Shoes are shoes or running shoes. Same thing. I never have used sneakers although I know what they are. I suppose tennis shoes would be clean running shoes that are never worn outside.

I still get a kick out of being asked if I'd like a sack instead of a bag. To me a sack is something potatoes come in.

For Christmas, the threat of being bad when I was a kid was to get rocks or coal in your stocking. My wife said switches was what she dreaded as a kid.....So I bought her a light switch for Christmas. biggrin.gif She was wondering what the heck was the reasoning for it. Then I told her "it's a switch." She said you silly goof. A switch is a tree branch. Tree branch? Learn something new I guess.

The "tags" thing in TX seems to refer to both the license plate and the window sticker (rear plate sticker in other states). To further complicate things, they also refer to tags as the registration tag. But to me it's always been the insurance sticker. Because in BC, you don't get a registration sticker for your back plate. You get an insurance sticker for the back plate. But in the US, insurance is simply a piece of paper that goes in the glove box. I'd never registered a car before I moved to Texas.

How bizarre to me it was, when I figured out that in Texas a car can have 2 license plates and 2 windshield stickers (one inspection, one registration), but there is no way of knowing if the car is insured or not unless you look at the paper inside the glovebox (which can easily be fraudulent because if you cancel your insurance, you get to keep the paper. And the police can't verify if the paper is good or not)

Yeah, the whole "two windshield sticker" thing can be a nuisance, but at least you don't need to carry your vehicle registration around with you. It's funny to watch movies where the cops ask, "License and vehicle registration, please." In Texas, all you need to show is your license.

I've mostly heard "bag" and maybe on rare occasions "sack" was used. Although I tend to think of "sack" as in "we're going to sack the town" or "we were good in the sack." tongue.gif

And as far as concrete vs blacktop goes... well, I haven't noticed a real difference. I think it depends what car you're driving (they all ride differently) and the condition of the roads. Unfortunately, the most heavily trafficked roads in Houston (i.e. Westheimer, Richmond and pretty much anything around the Galleria or Katy Freeway) are difficult to keep in good condition. The worst road around that area is probably Post Oak Blvd. That thing is a mess. It doesn't help that Houston seems to be in a perpetual state of construction.

QUOTE (charles! @ Jan 19 2009, 04:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i gave up trying to tell people what time it is, as i use military time, which europe and south america also uses. 1800 hours gets a blank look from people, you have to say 6.

I really don't understand why military time is so difficult for some people to understand. Just subtract 12 from the number. If something is 1500 hours, then subtract 12 to make it 3:00pm. Seems easy enough to me. unsure.gif
DeadPoolXMaleCanada2009-01-19 17:48:00
CanadaDifference in Attitudes
QUOTE (Reba @ Feb 1 2009, 07:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was in hospital in 2004 in Scarborough, and the lady in the bed next to me was Hungarian. They couldn't find ANYONE in the entire hospital to translate for her when her family wasn't there. The poor woman was in teers every night because no one could understand her.

I know dozens of Hungarian families in Toronto and GTA. I find it difficult to believe not a single one of them can be found in Scarborough working in the medical profession. tongue.gif

To be fair, Hungarian isn't too common. I know people who speak German, French, Spanish, Russian, Greek, Hebrew and whatever else. I've never met anyone who can speak Hungarian. I'm sure there are people in the U.S. who can, but it's a rarity (unless living in a Hungarian area of the city).
DeadPoolXMaleCanada2009-02-01 21:54:00
CanadaDifference in Attitudes
QUOTE (Kathryn41 @ Jan 30 2009, 07:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just read this article in my former Canadian home town and it struck me once again how strongly the US and Canada differ on their approaches to immigration. Canada wants immigrants and the US seems to be doing everything they can to deter immigration. Interesting.

http://www.chathamda....aspx?e=1411642

I can easily imagine why the U.S. and Canada have such different views on immigration.

Canada needs immigrants. Canada has a "negative birth rate," so to keep all federal and provincial programs running, there needs to be more people within the country. This might also explain why Canada has such a generous maternity leave. The Canadian government wants to encourage population growth. The U.S., on the other hand, would probably like to discourage it.

The U.S. has a lot more people than Canada (the state of California alone has a higher population) with the number rising every year. The U.S. also has an increasingly problematic illegal alien situation and many more security concerns.



DeadPoolXMaleCanada2009-01-31 05:27:00
CanadaReturning to Canada
QUOTE (Cristy @ Nov 11 2008, 03:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It has been a long time since I have posted here. 4 teenage boys and a new baby will do that lol.

I need some direction....

I am Canadian, my dh is American. We are seriously considering moving back home (Sask). I know the kids and I could ust go home.....but I need help pointing me in the right direction on how to get dh there quickly and legally.

Any info or links would be appreciated!

Thanks!

Cristy, my wife and I did this. She's the Canadian and I'm the American. I immigrated to Canada since it was quicker than immigrating to the United States. We may still do that in the future.

Anyway... I can tell you from firsthand experience that Canadian immigration isn't too difficult. As Reba said, apply for an outland application. That goes much quicker and my visa was ready within six months. An inland application can take a long, long time.

Your husband will need to get his fingerprints taken at the nearest police station and have them checked by the FBI. He'll also need to see an authorized Canadian physician for a medical exam. Make sure to get several passport-sized photos. You'll need them later on, if for nothing else, the medical checkup that's sent to Ontario. Don't worry about the requirements for photos that are listed on the sheets. Virtually no one knows how to make pictures that size and even if you explain it to them fully, they won't understand. To most Americans, immigration means "you're immigrating to the U.S. and that's that." My American-sized passport photos worked just fine.

After that, it's basically sending in all forms and evidence of being in a real relationship. My wife and I didn't get an RFE -- we packaged in photos, phone records, etc -- and that seemed to work. I think Canada is less picky about who immigrates; the U.S. is picky because it has so many immigrants coming in all the time, both legal and illegal.

Make sure your husband's name is correctly spelled on the landing documents. For some reason, mine wasn't and ever since then, the Canadian government has refused to change it, stating that whatever my name is on the landing document is my real name. I've shown them my U.S. passport, birth certificate, financial information (with the monetary details blacked out) and even my Canadian visa to enter the country, which has my correctly spelled name on it. They still insist that my name is whatever it is on the landing document, despite evidence to the contrary. I had to pay extra money to get my SIN card fixed (they initially refused to do so, unless I pay a fee covering their mistake) and I just recently -- three months after landing -- received my PR Card. They lost the first one (and attempted to blame that on me) and of course, my name isn't spelled correctly on it, either.

If you have a car that you wish to import, you'll probably want to use a specific USA/Canada transporter. You could drive up there yourself, but after taking into account gas, lodging and food expenses, including the time lost, the total cost would probably be the same (if not more). You'll need a letter of recall from the authorized dealership, VIN, title registration, statement of compliance label and sales receipts. The most important out of those is the letter of recall, since you won't pass federal inspection without it. The statement of compliance label should be on the inside of the driver's side door (where the door meets the car when closed). You can also show the car has been given as a gift, if you don't have the proper sales receipts.

Most importantly, make sure your car can be imported. The RIV have a list of vehicles that can be imported and not every single brand and year is allowed into Canada. You'll need to bring the car to a dealership in Canada that's the same type as your car, so they can inspect it and see if anything needs to be changed for Canadian operation. Depending on how stringent some of the rules are, you might have to get the dash readouts changed. I think that's unlikely, however, since nearly all cars show the speedometer in both MPH and KM/H.
DeadPoolXMaleCanada2008-11-16 11:13:00
CanadaLiving and working in Canada...
QUOTE (thetreble @ Nov 16 2008, 12:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Canada is not a socialist country. It fails to hit the main points of socialism. Sorry Deadpool, but I believe you are wrong with this one. Just because it has universal healthcare, and a few other minor things like a welfaire system, an air line, etc. that in controls, it doesn't make it socialist.

There is such a huge difference between a country like North Korea and Canada when it comes to social welfare. Those places have totally cut themselves out of the world economy, Canada has not.

We certainly do not go to school for free. I wish we had!

If you wanted the government to stay out, you should have stayed in the US wink.gif

I don't know what you're referring to here, but I believe you misread my post. I never said that Canada is a socialist country. I merely stated why many think Canada is a socialist country. There's a huge difference between the two statements.

I may think the Canadian government interferes too much, but that's not the same as declaring Canada a socialist country. Even in the U.S., the federal (and certainly the state governments) get involved at times. I highly doubt anyone would call the United States a socialist nation, would they? wink.gif

Edited by DeadPoolX, 16 November 2008 - 11:14 PM.

DeadPoolXMaleCanada2008-11-16 23:12:00
CanadaLiving and working in Canada...
I'd say that Cuba, China and North Korea are communist, rather than merely socialist. Of course, communism can take on a number of different meanings, ranging from Karl Marx's initial idea to how Stalin ran the Soviet Union.
DeadPoolXMaleCanada2008-11-16 10:50:00
CanadaLiving and working in Canada...
QUOTE (jedinite @ Nov 14 2008, 04:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
One drawback of Alberta is culture though. There is a culture here, and it's not all "cowboys" as a lot of Eastern Canadians tend to think, but it is also not too far off from being all yeehaw. Alberta is quite a bit more "Caucasian" than other parts of the country, though I've noticed a lot more visible minorities in the last year than I did 7 years ago when I left to work in the US. You won't get the same nightlife and experience as living in Toronto or Montreal. You pretty much have to go out of your way to find culture and arts in Calgary or Edmonton.

I've only been to Calgary once (and that was merely overnight), but I've been to Edmonton a ton of times. While I'll readily admit the nightlife isn't that great (unless you go to Whyte Ave, which has a lot of fun stuff going on), there is a ton of culture to be seen and had in Edmonton. During the summer months, there are a million-and-one festivals. I've been to CapitalEX, A Taste of Edmonton (free food all over the place!), The Fringe Theatre Festival, the Dragon Boat Races, the Jazz Festival, the Street Performer's Festival, Shakespeare Festival, Works Art & Design Festival, Film Festival, and the Art Walk. There a more festivals and events, too. If you're interested in seeing these, go to The Official Site for Edmonton, Alberta Festival Information and Event Calender and check it out. Plus, Edmonton also has North America's largest shopping mall. It's no longer the largest in the world. I believe some mall in China has take it's place.

Edmonton gets a somewhat bad name as being a "redneck" town, but it's really not. Perhaps The Stampede in Calgary gives that impression for all of Alberta. But truth be told, Edmonton is actually one of the most cultured cities in Canada. It just doesn't appear that way since the majority of these events take place in the summer and the winter months are longer.
QUOTE (trailmix @ Nov 14 2008, 05:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I doubt that a web developer would be an 'in demand' occupation in Canada - and I also doubt it would be grounds for immigration based on shortage.

jedinite, I don't think you can say that Alberta's cost of living compares to the U.S.. The United States is a very big place and the cost of living has a huge huge variation (as it does within Canada).

Unfortunately, the tech-art professions are generally considered unnecessary by many employers. This is mostly due to some major misconceptions and the recent economic environment.

Many people (including employers) see their young kids messing around with image editing programs or building a horrible looking website with Freewebs or some other host. Since very few individuals have any concept of design, they look at this and think, "Well, if my 13 year-old can do it, why do I need to spend money on hiring a professional in that field?" What they forget is that merely having proficiency with a program or knowing some HTML (which is mostly outdated now) does not make them a graphic designer or web developer. The most important parts of those professions is conceptualization and artistic know-how. If you hire someone who's been trained and is a professional in that career, then nine times out of ten you'll get something far better than what a junior high student could accomplish, despite how much they claim to "know" their cracked versions of Photoshop.

As for the economic downturn, that's hurt people in the tech-art fields as well. Due to what I explained above, many employers feel that graphic designers and web developers aren't necessary -- or at least, not so necessary they they need to be kept on salary. Contract work is available, but that's hard to count on. With companies earning less and firing employees, the chances of someone in the tech-art field gaining a salaried position is minimal, at best.
QUOTE (Reba @ Nov 14 2008, 08:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Salaries for the grunts IMO are generally a bit higher in Canada than in the US, but then cost of living is a bit higher in Canada too. But the same could be said from NYC to Austin. Cost of living varies, so do salaries. I have found that generally speaking in the US you get a lot less for your tax dollar than in Canada though. I pay the same in income taxes here in NC as I would in Ontario for a comparable income, and yet here in NC I have much fewer public services available to me for my tax dollar.

As others have said though, when the US economy tanks, the Canadian is not far behind. Canada's economy is tied by umbilical cord to the US. I don't know the percentage, but A LOT of employers in Canada ar US companies, like GM, Ford, yadda yadda yadda...When GM and Ford lay off or shut down plants, they make cuts in Canada as well. And then Canadian owned supplier companies suffer and lay off or shut down until eventually entire towns are dead, just like in the US. HOWEVER, the Canadian banking system was recently declared by the International Finance something or other to be the soundest in the world, so, take that and a couple of bucks to Timmy's and you can get a coffee and a bagel wink.gif

Culturally, Canada is more open minded (generally speaking of course, there are small minded bigots everywhere, including Canada) and liberal than the US. Canada is multi-cultural, where you're encouraged to keep your native culture, whereas the US is a melting pot, and you are encourage to assmiliate to the US way of things.

Like Reba says, the overall salary rates are generally higher in Canada, but more is taken out for taxation. This might depend on where you live, since the northeast and the west coast of the U.S. costs an arm-and-a-leg to live there (unless you want a small apartment).

I know a lot of people dislike Texas (usually due to misconceptions about the state), but in cities like Houston or Austin, the cost of living is very low. What would net you a relatively small apartment in Vancouver could get you a decently-sized house in Houston. That doesn't mean all of Houston is like that (try living in River Oaks, where all the mansions are situated), but in general, it's less expensive to live. Of course, that might mean lower salaries depending on your work. If you want to be in the tech-art field, I'd recommend Austin or Dallas over Houston, even though I love that city (it's my hometown). Houston has invested more in the oil industry than either Dallas or Austin, both of which take on more "informational and technical jobs." Austin is especially nice if you're looking for a liberal place to live and the buses (if you need them) are 50 cents each way; the Dillo is free and takes you around downtown.

The U.S and Canadian economies are heavily tied in to one another. There are lots of businesses that work on both sides of the border (Best Buy, for instance, owns Future Shop and HBC is owned by an American company, as well) so all of this damages the earnings in both the U.S. and Canada. The Canadian banking system is supposed to be the "safest" in the world, but you'll need to pay monthly fees for an account and transactions or at least, keep a minimum balance. In the U.S., there are tons of "free checking accounts" that cost nothing to have or use.

I don't know if I'd say Canada is more open-minded about cultures or not. Theoretically, Canada is supposed to be a "cultural mosaic" while the U.S. has been called a "melting pot." Sounds nice and easy, but in reality it rarely works that way. I've seen the U.S. become less of a "melting pot" and more of a "mosaic" over the years. People keep to their own communities and in fact, many groups often demand the spotlight for themselves. From what I've seen, this is hardly different from Canada. Maybe it occurs somewhat less often since there are fewer distinct groups in Canada than in the United States.

If anything, I'd say the U.S. is an "anti-melting pot" nowadays, since people generally have little inclination to become "American." People from different countries arrive here and expect (usually demand) that they do everything they way they were used to in their home country, but also get whatever the U.S. has to offer. You can't have it both ways. That doesn't stop anyone, however. Particularly illegals, since they'll demand their "constitutional rights" (when they have none) and even march in the streets. I find that amazing, since they should be arrested and deported the moment they admit to being there illegally.
QUOTE (thetreble @ Nov 16 2008, 07:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Canada isn't a "socialist" country. It seems a lot of people have that misconception. Canadian is a constitutional monarchy, a parliamentary democracy, that currently has a conservative government. Inferring Canada as socialist essentially voids it of all commerce and meaning it is classless. Canada and Venezuela aren't really on the same page, if you get my drift. It seems like the US media plays us as Socialist and gives people the wrong idea.

Many think Canada is a socialist country because the government has such a heavy hand in what goes on. I generally prefer the government stay out of my life and do as little as possible. Whenever the government -- any government -- takes matters into its hands, things get screwed up.
DeadPoolXMaleCanada2008-11-16 10:27:00
CanadaRemembrance Day
QUOTE (thetreble @ Nov 17 2008, 08:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (DeadPoolX @ Nov 16 2008, 10:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I honestly think the attitude has become worse in recent years. There are so many distractions in life now (cell phones, iPods, the Internet and so on), that many people lose their focus and ability to concentrate unless they're being entertained or kept busy 24/7. Immediate gratification and self indulgence, I'd say, are the core issues.


I wonder how much worse this will get. It isn't just in the US, it is global now. I see kids only a few years younger than me and the way they grew up is so totally different. My sister-in-law who is 21 can't have dinner at the table without sending texts the entire time. Are your friends REALLY saying something of importance that you text them for hours?

I just don't understand. What happened to alone time? I believe alone time has a good deal with understanding who you are and enjoying yourself. I also think it makes you a lot more independent. I think the world has set itself up for a bunch of dependent, never satisfied, whiners.

I absolutely agree. Some people do need their cell phones on all the time (such as my dad, who's a physician), but the average person -- especially teenagers -- are not so important or necessary to get ahold of at anytime they need to be like that. I have no problem with someone keeping their cell phone on while walking around or in a store. I tend to dislike cell phone use in restaurants (more so if someone at my table answers their cell), classrooms and while driving.

I'm not that old (I'm currently 29), but many people less than 10 years younger than me have a completely different outlook on life. They automatically take for granted the Internet, cell phones (I remember car phones!) and other technology that's widely available today but wasn't always. For instance, I clearly remember using MS-DOS. How many kids today even know what that is? They think the Windows OS has been around forever (and the same is true of the Internet). I've heard teens ask, "Before the Internet? What did you do for fun?" Oh, I don't know... maybe we did stuff in real life.

Don't get me wrong. I love technology and I can be something of a "gadget nut." The Internet is what enabled me to meet my wife and talk on here. However, it's still no substitute for real life activities.

Even worse than an addiction to computers is that many teens despise reading. I've been told (and I quote) that "reading is gay" and that "no one reads for fun." wacko.gif
DeadPoolXMaleCanada2008-11-17 08:23:00
CanadaRemembrance Day
As an American, I can say that some people really do care about Veteran's Day. Usually this is the case if they have a close family member who has served or is currently serving. If someone lacks any of that, they'll generally consider Veteran's Day as "just another day at work." I don't particularly agree with that stance, but many in the U.S. are so self-absorbed that if something doesn't directly benefit them, they want no part in it. Not all Americans are like that, of course. But enough are to react that way and see Veteran's Day as nothing more than a good excuse to go shopping during some sales.

I honestly think the attitude has become worse in recent years. There are so many distractions in life now (cell phones, iPods, the Internet and so on), that many people lose their focus and ability to concentrate unless they're being entertained or kept busy 24/7. Immediate gratification and self indulgence, I'd say, are the core issues.
DeadPoolXMaleCanada2008-11-16 10:48:00
CanadaIf you could vote in the U.S. Election
QUOTE (trailmix @ Nov 18 2008, 08:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I didn't really want to have to ask for this thread to be closed, only because I feel people should be able to post where they like.

That said, this isn't OT-OT - this is the Canada forum and it would be nice if people could just voluntarily speak their mind without taking unnecessary personal jabs at other people.

I'm not saying we are all sweetness and light - we aren't.

In my opinion you should disagree if you like, express your opinion all you like, but there is no reason for this to turn in to a personal fight.

I absolutely agree. We may not always get along or agree with everyone else in the Canada forum, but we usually have polite discourse with each other. I've rarely seen people attack others on a personal level here, which is something I can appreciate (as opposed to OT, which seems to be all about slamming the opposition into submission).

If this thread has to be closed -- and that probably wouldn't be a bad idea -- I understand completely. There is no need for a personal fight or any ridiculousness that may end up following it.
DeadPoolXMaleCanada2008-11-18 08:54:00
CanadaIf you could vote in the U.S. Election
QUOTE (pangga @ Nov 18 2008, 03:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (DeadPoolX @ Nov 17 2008, 11:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wow. You sure do have some nerve. I particularly like the demand for references, as if this is some sort of term paper. I'm still laughing at the sheer level of your audacity. laughing.gif

I disagree with most of everything you said, especially since you did so in a degrading and insulting manner. If you wish to have a conversation then I'd suggest you do so without looking petty. At the very least, no one will wish to discuss issues with you. I know I don't and I love debating. However, I refuse to engage in conversation with someone so full of themselves that they not only make inflammatory statements (and demand that someone else back up their assertions with references when they have none of their own), but they believe -- without a shadow of a doubt -- that their view is the correct and only one.

You have a lot to learn about debate. I would strongly suggest you take a few classes on the subject. Perhaps you may learn how to discuss issues with another person in a rational manner, instead of acting smugly superior. wink.gif


That's too bad you feel that you are too far in over your head to even attempt to defend your posting. I did not mean to scare you. My hope is that someday you will realize that there is nothing wrong with learning something new. But then again, I didn't really expect anything of substance from you.

Ah, of course. Insult me further. Good call! I have to wonder why you'd think I would answer you (or your demands) by continuing to toss more inflammatory statements my way. Maybe you'll "scare me" into doing what you wish? laughing.gif

Tell you what: perhaps I'll be "willing" to learn something new when you learn to stop hurling insulting commentary. I'm not even sure what you're aiming to accomplish. Do you have some desperate hope that you'll make me look bad or pin me to the wall, so I "must" answer you? If so, your attempt is failing miserably. But by all means, go ahead and continue to look foolish. I'm enjoying this. wink.gif

If you cease these childish antics, you'll see something of some so-called "substance" from me. In the mean time, I refuse to enter any sort of discussion with those who have the debate skills of a 10 year-old (i.e. "do what I say or you're an idiot!") and believe a debate is conducted by flaming the opposition. cool.gif

Edited by DeadPoolX, 18 November 2008 - 08:28 AM.

DeadPoolXMaleCanada2008-11-18 08:27:00