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Middle East and North AfricaWhich type of visa
QUOTE (Vanessa1 @ Dec 13 2009, 03:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ok, I have to step in here and say something since the original question was regarding my situation in that we have already filed the CR1 and I was asking about doing the K3 at the same time to see which would get the interview first. I don't know that it is actually sound advice here for Mounir at this point since he has already had his K3 interview. The CR1 would start over from the beginning. It's not like they had been filed at the same time. I would think, in Mounir's case, it would be best to see what happens with his K3 since he's in AP and go from there. He's already said repeatedly how much he misses Suzie and want to be with her so starting over from the beginning might not be best. I know if I were in that situation and my SO told me he wanted to start from the beginning, after being so close to done, and I would not be happy at all.

This is just my opinion but I thought I should step in and make sure that the advice is being given realizing that our two situations are vastly different.

QUOTE (mounir and suzie @ Dec 13 2009, 12:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (New Beginnings @ Dec 12 2009, 07:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I guess it depends on how long the CO review is. We were in AP for a few weeks after the K3 interview, then we had our CR1 interview and were in AP for 2 more weeks after that. We received the visa almost exactly 2 weeks later and it was the CR1 visa because the K3 is cancelled once you interview for the CR1

wow thats not the bad really now i got it as well , i will see what i can do with it cause so far i still waiting but not any news so i guess for going to CR1 will be the better opation , thanks so much again ,, have a great day.

QUOTE (sachinky @ Dec 12 2009, 08:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Go for the IR1/CR1.

K3 is practically obsolete at this point. It was introduced at a time when CR1s were taking years to be processed so as to allow the immigrant to be with the USC spouse during the process. Nowadays they are processing both at about the same time -- the only place where the K3 saves you time (4 weeks or so) is in the NVC stage. Not worth it. The CR1 is a far superior visa as has been explained in minute detail regarding cost/time/benefits. After two years, you may file for removal of conditions.

You don't want to have to deal with USCIS more than you really need to.

Good luck on your visajourney! smile.gif

Thanks so much for your reply ,, wish you the best luck,, have a great day .


i was thinking of all you said cause you right i suppose to be close to done with k3 last week i got an e mail from the embassy telling me that now the case is pending co officer's review so lots on here told me that does mean i finally got out of AP , today i e mailed the embassy asking what the statue now of my case but still didnt get any reply from them , i just thought after reading about CR1 it can make things faster now cause even i got this e mail about my case but i seen lots got the same one and still waiting for months to get their visa so its really confusing and for changing it now it can make a high risk to cause more waiting time so i really still thinking about that , wish to do any fast process to my case to be with my wife its so hard to be far apart all this time sorry dont mean to sound like complain ,, thanks for you advice ,, have a great one .

mounir and suzieMaleEgypt2009-12-13 17:36:00
Middle East and North AfricaWhich type of visa
QUOTE (New Beginnings @ Dec 12 2009, 07:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I guess it depends on how long the CO review is. We were in AP for a few weeks after the K3 interview, then we had our CR1 interview and were in AP for 2 more weeks after that. We received the visa almost exactly 2 weeks later and it was the CR1 visa because the K3 is cancelled once you interview for the CR1

wow thats not the bad really now i got it as well , i will see what i can do with it cause so far i still waiting but not any news so i guess for going to CR1 will be the better opation , thanks so much again ,, have a great day.

QUOTE (sachinky @ Dec 12 2009, 08:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Go for the IR1/CR1.

K3 is practically obsolete at this point. It was introduced at a time when CR1s were taking years to be processed so as to allow the immigrant to be with the USC spouse during the process. Nowadays they are processing both at about the same time -- the only place where the K3 saves you time (4 weeks or so) is in the NVC stage. Not worth it. The CR1 is a far superior visa as has been explained in minute detail regarding cost/time/benefits. After two years, you may file for removal of conditions.

You don't want to have to deal with USCIS more than you really need to.

Good luck on your visajourney! smile.gif

Thanks so much for your reply ,, wish you the best luck,, have a great day .
mounir and suzieMaleEgypt2009-12-13 14:39:00
Middle East and North AfricaWhich type of visa
QUOTE (New Beginnings @ Dec 11 2009, 04:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
that's not correct. We interviewed for both the K3 and the CR1. You can do another interview for the CR1

thanks for the reply New Beginnings so if i can make another interview for CR1 and now i'm almost on the last step with K3 cause remember they sent me an e mail telling me my case now is pending co review so this step will canceled and i gonna need to wait for the new interview then waiting again for all the steps after the interview ? thanks again and sorry for asking much about that just i got some confused and need to decide fast what the better to do , best of luck .
mounir and suzieMaleEgypt2009-12-12 12:58:00
Middle East and North AfricaWhich type of visa
QUOTE (christeen @ Dec 11 2009, 09:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
One thing to keep in mind... Lawyers LOVE k-3s as it is soooo much more paperwork and $$$ for them!!! In most cases, if you do not have any "issues" (past crimes, deportations, denials, or other possible wrenches) you can do this whole process MUCH faster by using these boards and wiki and guides and doing it your self... after all who cares more about your case then YOU???

mounir: Not sure if it is possible to change? was your case approved at NVC?? If not, then you would probably be taking a step back... But if it has, you can certainly ask the consulate... But the K3 WILL get your SO over here... but it is just a matter that there is a whole other boatload of stuff to do and hoops to jump through... But each person has to decide which visa is the correct one for them and their personal situation...

thanks for the reply christeen and yes we got approved for both I_129 and I-130 at NVC but the consulate used the I-129 which is K3 so now i'm almost on the last step with that cause i got an e mail from the embassy telling me the case now is pending officer's review so i really dont know if i ask for make an interview after paying the fees for I-130 then the K3 will canceld then i gonna have waiting again for months to go through the new process ,, so please can you please explain me if that right or not about waiting longer again ,, thanks so much .
mounir and suzieMaleEgypt2009-12-12 12:55:00
Middle East and North AfricaWhich type of visa
QUOTE (New Beginnings @ Dec 11 2009, 02:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The only way to change the visa type would be to pay the fee's for the CR1 at the NVC and have a CR1 interview scheduled. Once you interview for the CR1 the K3 is cancelled and the approved visa would be a CR1 visa

Thanks New Beginnings i got it but i cant do it now cause as i said i done the interview already with K3 so cant make it all over again ,, so i guess no way to make any change for it by now ,, thanks again .
mounir and suzieMaleEgypt2009-12-11 14:40:00
Middle East and North AfricaWhich type of visa
hi everyone ,,, wow this thread so interested ,, in fact after i read all the posting i got lots of fears ... i'm k3 and we got approve for both I-130 and I-129 but we went into I-129 which means K3 i done my interview in the embassy in Cairo OCT ,22,,2009 since that i'm waiting to hear from the embassy to send me my passport with the visa God willing , so now is there a way to change the type of the visa after i go there or its too late to do it , i mean how i can make things faster is there a way for doing this or i just have to deal with all the rest of process with K3 once i be there ,, i need your advice guys and what the best way to do once i got my visa ,, thanks so much , have a blessed day all .
mounir and suzieMaleEgypt2009-12-11 11:33:00
Middle East and North AfricaMONDAY
QUOTE (Amoon @ Dec 14 2009, 12:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks Sandra!

Mabrook Mounir!

Thanks Amoon so much , have a great one .
mounir and suzieMaleEgypt2009-12-14 16:09:00
Middle East and North AfricaMONDAY
QUOTE (Aya&John @ Dec 14 2009, 03:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thank you Sandra and Mounir smile.gif

your mostly welcome Aya , so happy for you ,, have a wonderful life .
mounir and suzieMaleEgypt2009-12-14 16:06:00
Middle East and North AfricaMONDAY
good evening everyone and happy monday to you all , i got a great news today and i made a thread about that and here i will say it again lol , i got an e mail from the embassy this evening telling me that they issued my visa already dec 13 which is yesterday and will send it to me within two weeks yayyyyyyyyyyyyyy , thanks to you all thanks to MENA for all the support and everything , have a great day Amoon,,Sandrila,Jasman0717,Aymsgirl,charles,R and F,Nagi,Aya and Maureen and to everyone on MENA ,, i love you all ,, wish you all the best always . kicking.gif
mounir and suzieMaleEgypt2009-12-14 11:21:00
Middle East and North AfricaFinal Review Email from Cairo Embassy
QUOTE (NancylovesAhmad @ Dec 10 2009, 01:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Aymsgirl @ Dec 9 2009, 05:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Maybe something hopeful for you to hear but we got that email from the embassy after my husband had his visa in hand!


They sent you a final review email after the visa had been sent already? Well that gives me hope that maybe we only have a few weeks to go. You never know with the Cairo Embassy.

wish you doing well Nancy and that isa the visa come so soon ,, it was a great idea to let everyone start posting after how long they got their visa after they got the same e mail from the embassy it gonna help all of us to knowing that , best of luck ,, have a nice day.
mounir and suzieMaleEgypt2009-12-10 11:32:00
Middle East and North AfricaFinal Review Email from Cairo Embassy
QUOTE (disconnection @ Dec 10 2009, 11:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
so when you get that (The case is pending the officer’s final review) mail , does it mean that the case got out of AP ??

i got the same e mail and when i asked lots on here says yes that means the case is out of AP but i have to add something ... still when we call the DOS it says its under AP so when i asked about that some on Vj they told me the DOS will keep saying that until the embassy issue the visa so i really kinda confused but i guess thats right once we got this e mail which says (the case is pending officer's final review) it does mean its out of AP ,, someone correct me if i'm wrong , best of luck to all of you .
mounir and suzieMaleEgypt2009-12-10 11:30:00
Middle East and North AfricaFinal Review Email from Cairo Embassy
QUOTE (Hot Guy @ Dec 9 2009, 04:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (NancylovesAhmad @ Dec 8 2009, 11:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hello everyone. Well I emailed the Embassy on Dec 5th, 2009 and I received a reply today that stated:

"Dear Madam:

Thank you for your e-mail message.

The case is pending the officer's final review. We will process the case to conclusion once that is completed.


Regards,

Consular staff"

I know that there have been several people that have received this type of email. I was wondering how long after receiving this "final review" email did you receive the visa? And if you havent received the visa yet when was the last time you might have received an email like this? I really appreciate any information you guys could share with me. I am really debating over whether I should go visit my husband or wait it out. Thanks in advance to any replies on this topic.

When they say the case is pending CO final review it means the CO in charge of your case is reviewing your case now to make sure that everything is ok and in order before they issue the visa . which means its the last step before they issue the visa .
Inshaallah it wont be so long till he get the visa in hand .
Keep an eye on DHL .
Nancy and Mounir good luck and my best wishes for you both .

Mohamed

thanks Mohamed brother so much , my best wishes to you too ,hopefully we hear good news soon , cant wait until you tell me that you got it in hand ,, have a great one brother .
mounir and suzieMaleEgypt2009-12-09 14:17:00
Middle East and North AfricaFinal Review Email from Cairo Embassy
QUOTE (mounir and suzie @ Dec 9 2009, 03:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (NancylovesAhmad @ Dec 8 2009, 11:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hello everyone. Well I emailed the Embassy on Dec 5th, 2009 and I received a reply today that stated:

"Dear Madam:

Thank you for your e-mail message.

The case is pending the officer’s final review. We will process the case to conclusion once that is completed.


Regards,

Consular staff"

I know that there have been several people that have received this type of email. I was wondering how long after receiving this "final review" email did you receive the visa? And if you havent received the visa yet when was the last time you might have received an email like this? I really appreciate any information you guys could share with me. I am really debating over whether I should go visit my husband or wait it out. Thanks in advance to any replies on this topic.

hi Nancy,,, as you know i got the same e mail from the embassy when i asked the same question as you lots of people told me it can take one to three weeks mostly to get the visa but some told me it took with them like two months after this e mail some few took longer than that so really not time frame with this but lets take it as 70% of people who said it take from one to three weeks after the officer's final review ,, wish with all my heart they send the visa by next week ,, we should worry if (god forbid) took more than three weeks ,, best of luck to all of us , have a good one.

i forget to tell you to keep checking the DHL web site to know if it moving from the embassy or still there ,, best of luck to you isa.
mounir and suzieMaleEgypt2009-12-09 02:18:00
Middle East and North AfricaFinal Review Email from Cairo Embassy
QUOTE (NancylovesAhmad @ Dec 8 2009, 11:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hello everyone. Well I emailed the Embassy on Dec 5th, 2009 and I received a reply today that stated:

"Dear Madam:

Thank you for your e-mail message.

The case is pending the officer’s final review. We will process the case to conclusion once that is completed.


Regards,

Consular staff"

I know that there have been several people that have received this type of email. I was wondering how long after receiving this "final review" email did you receive the visa? And if you havent received the visa yet when was the last time you might have received an email like this? I really appreciate any information you guys could share with me. I am really debating over whether I should go visit my husband or wait it out. Thanks in advance to any replies on this topic.

hi Nancy,,, as you know i got the same e mail from the embassy when i asked the same question as you lots of people told me it can take one to three weeks mostly to get the visa but some told me it took with them like two months after this e mail some few took longer than that so really not time frame with this but lets take it as 70% of people who said it take from one to three weeks after the officer's final review ,, wish with all my heart they send the visa by next week ,, we should worry if (god forbid) took more than three weeks ,, best of luck to all of us , have a good one.
mounir and suzieMaleEgypt2009-12-09 02:05:00
Middle East and North Africathe visa issued already
QUOTE (Vanessa1 @ Dec 14 2009, 08:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh congratulations!!! I'm so happy to hear this and happy for you and Suzie! kicking.gif

Thanks so much Vanessa ,, i and Suzie thanks you so much , wish you the best kicking.gif

QUOTE (Hot Guy @ Dec 15 2009, 03:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
kicking.gif kicking.gif kicking.gif Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! bro kicking.gif kicking.gif kicking.gif
remember i told you that you will get it this week .LOL
I'm so so happy for you i swear. you deserve the best of best bro .
Inshaallah it wont take so long till you get it in you hand .
Have a nice happy blessed new life with your love in USA . rose.gif

Thanks Mohamed brother so so so so much , yes lol i knew you told me that ,, inshallah you will get yours so so so soon , thanks for all , have a great day brother kicking.gif
mounir and suzieMaleEgypt2009-12-15 06:53:00
Middle East and North Africathe visa issued already
QUOTE (And_Sam @ Dec 14 2009, 05:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Congratulations Mounir!! I know you and Suzie will have a wonderfull life in the US!! kicking.gif kicking.gif

Thanks so so much Andrea inshallah so soon you will tell us that Samah get his visa and be with you last forever enjoying all your life with all the happiness ,, thanks again so much kicking.gif
mounir and suzieMaleEgypt2009-12-14 17:58:00
Middle East and North Africathe visa issued already
QUOTE (Y's_habibitk @ Dec 14 2009, 05:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Congratulations!! Thats wonderful, enjoy your new life together..

thanks so much ,, wish you a great day .
mounir and suzieMaleEgypt2009-12-14 16:33:00
PhilippinesVisa APPROVED!!!!
QUOTE (Lady AA @ Dec 5 2009, 08:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thank you sweet angel and fransha.

Congratulations wish all the happiness to you.
mounir and suzieMaleEgypt2009-12-05 07:52:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsVISA IN HAND!!!GOD IS GOOD!!!
Congratulations kicking.gif wish you a great happy life .
mounir and suzieMaleEgypt2009-12-05 13:14:00
Middle East and North Africahow my interview went today
hi everyone on here ,, before i start saying anything i just want to say really all the people on here is just a great people lots of them helping me and wish with all my heart for everyone most of the good luck and the best always ... now i will start saying my experince for my interview which i done today OCT 22 .2009 in the American embassy in Cairo to let you all know .
first of all i was there at 6:45 then they start call us to make two lines one of imgrant visa other for the other visa so we were inside at 7:15am everyone got a number and we sit then they start working at 7:30am then they start to call for the papers work was an egyptian woman who checked my papers work and she said everything was fine except she asked me about the divorced original Certificate for my wife cause my wife divorced before so i said i dont have it then she said no problem you just later dhl it to the embassy then all my papers was fine i tell you what the papers :
1-original birth Certificate
2- original marriage Certificate the arabic one and englishe one.
3-original Military Service Certificate
4- my passport .
then she asked me to go to pay the dhl fees was 67LE (egyptian pounds)
then i sit and waitied for the another call which for the finger print then they called me to to finger print i did that and i went to sit again wating for the last calling for the interview which we all waiting for lol.
then they call me to go to my interview and really guys the interviewer was a man around his 45 or 46 he was so so nice and friendly asking so some few questions not so hard really or silly questions and treat me with smile and good respect i will tell what he asking me to it might help all of you ..
he said what's your ful name ,,, for how long you know your wife ,, what's her name ,,, how you know your wife ,, when did you met her in person and for how long ,, when you and her get married ,, what do you do for living here ,, what your wife doing for living ,, where your wife live in the USA , what you plan to do when you go there , have you ever been in the us before ,,, then he asked me do you have a pictures to you and your wife while she was here and yes i said and i show him some of our pictures ,, he said thats cool everything is fine , then he said well we just need from you the original divorced Certificate from your wife and he gave me a form which says my case number and my name saying i need to send to the embassy my wife original divorced Certificate ,, he said i can send it from here by DHL or she send it from the us to the embassy by DHL also , then i asked him and when i can get my visa he said after you send it to us then you will get your visa within two weeks ,, so i wish he said the truth but the interview was nice and easy not hard at all really ,, wish i can explain every little detials on my interview to all of you , wish the best luck to all of you guys .
mounir and suzieMaleEgypt2009-10-23 01:29:00
Middle East and North Africahow my interview went
salam to all of you
i want to add something it might give a good information to all of you ... when i was in my interview was with me a friend by the way he and his wife here in Vj he like me in k3 visa and have had same date as me for the interview OCT 22 but he went to France from three years ago and stayed there five years so they asked him to send them the police recored from France cause he stayed there more than one year and they need a poilce recored for each country the person stayed for more than one year and gave to him his passport back saying send us this police recored we cant issue you a visa until you sending us that ,, so i wish he can do it cause he left France for three years right now wish all the luck to him ,, just i want to say that on here to let everyone knows so if anyone did the same then he or she get ready and get this paper ,, i will send the embassy soon the divorce paper they asking me for then waiting for my visa , best luck to all of you and thanks so much to all of you guys . good.gif
mounir and suzieMaleEgypt2009-10-23 16:37:00
Middle East and North Africahow my interview went
QUOTE (Nawal @ Oct 23 2009, 01:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Congrats! rose.gif

thanks so much to all of you , wish all the good luck to you all ,, i will send them soon the divorce paper they asking me for then i will be waiting to hear about my visa , best luck to all of you .
mounir and suzieMaleEgypt2009-10-23 16:25:00
Middle East and North Africahow my interview went
hi everyone on here ,, before i start saying anything i just want to say really all the people on here is just a great people lots of them helping me and wish with all my heart for everyone most of the good luck and the best always ... now i will start saying my experince for my interview which i done today OCT 22 .2009 in the American embassy in Cairo to let you all know .
first of all i was there at 6:45 then they start call us to make two lines one of imgrant visa other for the other visa so we were inside at 7:15am everyone got a number and we sit then they start working at 7:30am then they start to call for the papers work was an egyptian woman who checked my papers work and she said everything was fine except she asked me about the divorced original Certificate for my wife cause my wife divorced before so i said i dont have it then she said no problem you just later dhl it to the embassy then all my papers was fine i tell you what the papers :
1-original birth Certificate
2- original marriage Certificate the arabic one and englishe one.
3-original Military Service Certificate
4- my passport .
then she asked me to go to pay the dhl fees was 67LE (egyptian pounds)
then i sit and waitied for the another call which for the finger print then they called me to to finger print i did that and i went to sit again wating for the last calling for the interview which we all waiting for lol.
then they call me to go to my interview and really guys the interviewer was a man around his 45 or 46 he was so so nice and friendly asking so some few questions not so hard really or silly questions and treat me with smile and good respect i will tell what he asking me to it might help all of you ..
he said what's your ful name ,,, for how long you know your wife ,, what's her name ,,, how you know your wife ,, when did you met her in person and for how long ,, when you and her get married ,, what do you do for living here ,, what your wife doing for living ,, where your wife live in the USA , what you plan to do when you go there , have you ever been in the us before ,,, then he asked me do you have a pictures to you and your wife while she was here and yes i said and i show him some of our pictures ,, he said thats cool everything is fine , then he said well we just need from you the original divorced Certificate from your wife and he gave me a form which says my case number and my name saying i need to send to the embassy my wife original divorced Certificate ,, he said i can send it from here by DHL or she send it from the us to the embassy by DHL also , then i asked him and when i can get my visa he said after you send it to us then you will get your visa within two weeks ,, so i wish he said the truth but the interview was nice and easy not hard at all really ,, ah i forget to say that the interviewer kept my passport with him ,, wish i can explained every little detials on my interview to all of you , wish the best luck to all of you guys .
mounir and suzieMaleEgypt2009-10-23 02:01:00
Middle East and North Africaneed help to call the embassy
thanks to all of you , i know all everyone on here is helpful , i keep saying everone on VJ is great , i will try to relax , my wife called the DOS today and the agent says the same as the embassy have had e mailed me ... we are waiting for the divorced certificate , then she told him but we checked the DHL website and it says its there already then he said well give the embassy one to two weeks to process then she said whattttttttttttt how come take this time once it there already then he said well you can call the embassy and ask cause it all depend on thier speed of system ,, so guys i cant deny that i'm kinda sad cause i thought after my interview and how it went smoothly everything will be fine after i send them this documents then i will get my visa within two weeks as the CO said but seems as all you said they so slow and i'm in AP now wish not took longer or cause huge delay , thanks again for all of you , best luck to all .
mounir and suzieMaleEgypt2009-10-30 20:55:00
Middle East and North Africaneed help to call the embassy
QUOTE (Waheed and Gracie @ Oct 29 2009, 02:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The same happend to us, they usually put u on 3 months ap before issue the visa, this is the normal procedure when u forget any document, after 2 or 3 months they will send back the passport. Just wait everything its ok, if u start pushing them they will delay u more.



QUOTE (mounir and suzie @ Oct 29 2009, 07:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hi to all , after i done my interview OCT 22 they asked me to send them my wife original divorced certificate cause they need it and then they will issue my visa , so i sent it to them last Sunday then i kept e mailing the american embassy in cairo to ask if they get it or not they keep telling me they didnt get it yet ,, so i called the DHL company to ask then they told me yes the embassy receive it Monday morning and you can check it your self online with your shipment number , then i did and they were right it says the embassy received it Monday morning and i sent this page to the embassy too as PDF file but still get the same mail from the embassy telling me they didnt get it yet so i called the counslar secation in this number 27972200 they said we cant answer any question on the phone you must e mail us and not let me ask ... i tried also the other number which is 090070600 but they didnt know either so please if anyone on here knows an excat number to check the visa statue and asking how the DHL says that my documents arrived in the embassy and they said we didnt get it yet , i'm so confusing dont know what i can do to be sure they get it ,, cause some says they took some time to arrange the mails to sending it to the right secation so i wonder how long it take , please help me if anyone knows the right number to call and talk to someone ,, thanks to all of you ,, by the way i'm k3 visa .


thanks for the reply , ohh if i pushed them they will cause more delay to me ohhh , i will try to call the DOS number someone on here gave me the number to call so i will try this just to know how the visa process goes so far ,, yeah i heard they working slow in the embassy in cairo and you know what after i done my interview i asked the CO when i will get the visa after i sending this document which is missing then he said to me within two weeks mmmmmmmm,, good luck to all of you .
mounir and suzieMaleEgypt2009-10-29 23:03:00
Middle East and North Africaneed help to call the embassy
QUOTE (yasser/fatimah @ Oct 29 2009, 10:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We had the same problem when we called, we were told to email. DHL website said they recieved it but when we called DOS to check it wasnt enetered into the system yet. It took almost a week to show they received it. Try not to worry b/c they are so slow in Cairo! Good luck....hope you receive it soon!

thanks for the reply , can you tell me what the DOS means and how i can call it , i checked the shipment on DHL web site and i saw it says the embassy received it so please tell me what the DOS is and how i can call it , thanks so much , wish to all of you all the good luck
mounir and suzieMaleEgypt2009-10-29 10:44:00
Middle East and North Africaneed help to call the embassy
hi to all , after i done my interview OCT 22 they asked me to send them my wife original divorced certificate cause they need it and then they will issue my visa , so i sent it to them last Sunday then i kept e mailing the american embassy in cairo to ask if they get it or not they keep telling me they didnt get it yet ,, so i called the DHL company to ask then they told me yes the embassy receive it Monday morning and you can check it your self online with your shipment number , then i did and they were right it says the embassy received it Monday morning and i sent this page to the embassy too as PDF file but still get the same mail from the embassy telling me they didnt get it yet so i called the counslar secation in this number 27972200 they said we cant answer any question on the phone you must e mail us and not let me ask ... i tried also the other number which is 090070600 but they didnt know either so please if anyone on here knows an excat number to check the visa statue and asking how the DHL says that my documents arrived in the embassy and they said we didnt get it yet , i'm so confusing dont know what i can do to be sure they get it ,, cause some says they took some time to arrange the mails to sending it to the right secation so i wonder how long it take , please help me if anyone knows the right number to call and talk to someone ,, thanks to all of you ,, by the way i'm k3 visa .
mounir and suzieMaleEgypt2009-10-29 07:27:00
Middle East and North Africaquestion about police recored
QUOTE (egypt lover @ Nov 1 2009, 03:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (mounir and suzie @ Nov 1 2009, 05:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hi to all
this post i made here right now not for me this for my friend Ahmed his wife in VJ too and suerly we all here to help each other ,, so he have a big problem i tell you wish someone can help to calm him down ,, well he was with me same day doing his interview hes K3 also our interview was OCT 22 .2009 so three years ago he living in France for like five years or four so the CO asked him to sending him the police recored which from France to show it in the embassy in cairo so the problem is he was illegal there also he left France three years now so he dont know how he can bring it to the embassy in cairo , on other hand if he cant get this police recored from france so is that means they won't give him his visa or what ,, please if someone pass that before or know anything about this issue tell on here to me tell him and calm him down , about me i still waiting to hear anything from the embassy or atleast they say yes we get now your wife divorced certificate , wish all the best luck to everyone and done this journey with happiness , thanks to all .



mounir let me say first hw much i missed u my brother u really good man to aske help for afriend any way i will help u as i can first i want know is he was stay there illigal and then be ligal or what if he in this case i think thats okay cuz i think what can show in police record if they caught him when he living there illigal and will give him some thing called (stop list) that mean he is not allowed to back to this country for 3 years but if he kill or do any crime there he will get some thing call(black list) and thats not allow him to come gaine to this country so i think the situation with ur friend will be okay he just should go and aske in france embassy and they might help him more i just told u what i know and if iam wronge hope from my friends here to fix for me.god with u my friend

salam Ahmed my brother , me too i missed you a lot , thanks so much for you kind words , i do beleive we all should to help each other as we can and you too a great man ,, well about my friend by the way his name is Ahmed too but i dont think he get to be there ligal he left France and his case there we illigal but he didnt anything wrong there and no he left it his self the police didnt stop him because he illilgal he just left it him self , he wonder now how he can get his police recored from there to show it to the american embassy , so i hope we can get any help about that , also he went to the france embassy but they said they cant do anything about that like they dont know so really his so confusing and dont know what he can do ,,, wish you a great day my brother .

mounir and suzieMaleEgypt2009-11-02 02:06:00
Middle East and North Africaquestion about police recored
hi to all
this post i made here right now not for me this for my friend Ahmed his wife in VJ too and suerly we all here to help each other ,, so he have a big problem i tell you wish someone can help to calm him down ,, well he was with me same day doing his interview hes K3 also our interview was OCT 22 .2009 so three years ago he living in France for like five years or four so the CO asked him to sending him the police recored which from France to show it in the embassy in cairo so the problem is he was illegal there also he left France three years now so he dont know how he can bring it to the embassy in cairo , on other hand if he cant get this police recored from france so is that means they won't give him his visa or what ,, please if someone pass that before or know anything about this issue tell on here to me tell him and calm him down , about me i still waiting to hear anything from the embassy or atleast they say yes we get now your wife divorced certificate , wish all the best luck to everyone and done this journey with happiness , thanks to all .
mounir and suzieMaleEgypt2009-11-01 05:52:00
Middle East and North AfricaEgypt VJ'rs - Please help
QUOTE (And_Sam @ Nov 1 2009, 06:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (zahrasalem @ Oct 29 2009, 11:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi,

I really need help from my fellow Egyptian vj'rs............is your husband's military certificate from the MINISTRY OF DEFENSE also???? It doesn't matter if he's exempt or not........

I'm gathering evidence from official Egyptinan Government websites that the MINISTRY OF DEFENSE is the ONLY place that issues military certificates, to send in with his extra military certificate that he's getting this weekend to send to NVC with our RFE.

The NVC seems to think that there is still a MINISTRY OF WAR that exists, and it does not exist anymore, NVC's info is outdated.

I've had our case forwarded to a supervisor bcz we got an RFE for his military certificate, they said it needs to be from MINISTRY OF WAR, not MINISTRY OF DEFENSE, and I told the operator to tell the supervisor there is no longer a MINISTRY OF WAR!!!!!!! crying.gif

We are going nuts trying to understand why only we are getting an RFE for this, or are ALL Egyptian petitions getting this RFE????


We appreciate if you can let us know if your military cert. is from Ministry of Defense, too. THANKS unsure.gif

Hi Zahra..
I am still waiting to see if we get a RFE from the NVC. I hope not!! His cetificate is from the ministry of defense too...I will let you know!!!
Hope things are going good for you!

hi ,, i and my wife used k3 so i'm not sure if its the same or not but all i can say my military certificate wasnt from Ministry of war it was as your husband from Ministry of defense and works fine even when i sent it to the embassy in cairo and showed it on my interview so the NVC will accept it dont worry , here is no Ministry of war no longer ,, wish it can help you , best of luck .


QUOTE (And_Sam @ Nov 1 2009, 06:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (zahrasalem @ Oct 29 2009, 11:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi,

I really need help from my fellow Egyptian vj'rs............is your husband's military certificate from the MINISTRY OF DEFENSE also???? It doesn't matter if he's exempt or not........

I'm gathering evidence from official Egyptinan Government websites that the MINISTRY OF DEFENSE is the ONLY place that issues military certificates, to send in with his extra military certificate that he's getting this weekend to send to NVC with our RFE.

The NVC seems to think that there is still a MINISTRY OF WAR that exists, and it does not exist anymore, NVC's info is outdated.

I've had our case forwarded to a supervisor bcz we got an RFE for his military certificate, they said it needs to be from MINISTRY OF WAR, not MINISTRY OF DEFENSE, and I told the operator to tell the supervisor there is no longer a MINISTRY OF WAR!!!!!!! crying.gif

We are going nuts trying to understand why only we are getting an RFE for this, or are ALL Egyptian petitions getting this RFE????


We appreciate if you can let us know if your military cert. is from Ministry of Defense, too. THANKS unsure.gif

Hi Zahra..
I am still waiting to see if we get a RFE from the NVC. I hope not!! His cetificate is from the ministry of defense too...I will let you know!!!
Hope things are going good for you!


mounir and suzieMaleEgypt2009-11-02 02:30:00
Middle East and North Africasome advice before the interview
thanks for all the reply , i know how great people on here , i will wait to trying to calm down , will think about what you told me Mohamed just my wife get so stress and worried to start a big mess up with us and give us a huge delay but Allah is always with us , wish to everyone the best luck and no more waiting time to make every husband and wife together last forever .
mounir and suzieMaleEgypt2009-11-02 17:15:00
Middle East and North Africasome advice before the interview
hi all
i'm so frustrated but i want to tell everyone on here again an advice before the interview , let me say first something to explain to you all ,, today my wife called the DOS and the agent told her yes now the embassy in Cairo received the divorced certificate then my wife asked her so when my husband will get his visa she said well there is no time about this so my wife got so mad and told her how come where and who i can go then to ask then she said embassy in cairo working like that so noone knows .. then my wife told her can you give me a specific place to asking about my right then she said i dont know , so my wife asked her well is my husband on AP she said yes he is and i will tell you something that is embassy in cairo always put everyone on AP and more when a missing documents came this cause more AP so they can send him the visa within two weeks or two months or more so my wife said to her well can i contact a congress person she said you can then she asked her what if i went there to the embassy myself and asking them for our right to done the visa fast is it working then she said yes it can works very well ,, sorry to be longer but i want to tell all of you this and here is my advice after all of this .... dont miss any documents when you go to your interview ... if any of you got divorced before bring with you the original divorced certificate , if you lived in other country more than one year dont forget to bring with you the police recored from this country , take with you all the original certificate such as birth, militrey, marriage ,, i just dont want anyone who will have the interview soon to give them any reason to make a long AP as AAP which mean adinal administrative processing,, i dont know why they act like that and make it as a big deal , i think as all your papers work right so no reason to cause a huge delay,, good luck for all , may Allah with all of us with this waiting and hard time.
mounir and suzieMaleEgypt2009-11-02 15:22:00
Middle East and North Africak3 visa information and how consulor process
this post i'm not writing it my self i got it from my wife from a site then i see it a important info so i would love to post it on here to let everyone who in K3 visa read it it may make some good help , best luck to all .
Who is eligible for a K3 visa?
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19. A spouse of a U.S. citizen and unmarried children of that spouse may be issued K3/K4 visas. Note that an unmarried child of a U.S. citizen who is not also the child of a K3 is not eligible for K4 issuance; rather, the U.S. citizen must file an I-130 petition for IR2 status for his/her child, see Ref E, 32-33.

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How does a consular officer determine K3 eligibility?
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20. USCIS must approve an I-129F petition/K3 petition before post can process the K3. Post will receive approved I-129F petitions from USCIS via NVC by scanned e-mail, see Ref E, 7-14. As is the case for K1 fiancé petitions, consular officers are not delegated authority by USCIS to approve K3 petitions. Posts may, however, revalidate K3 petitions, which expire four months from the date of approval, for additional four-month periods, under the provisions of 9 FAM 41.31 N5.2.

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What about dependents of K3 applicants?
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21. U.S. citizens are not required to file a separate I-129F petition for a K4 unmarried child of the K3 spouse. A K4 applicant must only demonstrate that he/she is the unmarried child of a K3 applicant in order to qualify for issuance.

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What is NVC''s role in processing K3 visas?
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22. NVC receives an approved I-129F/K3 petition from USCIS, performs the NCIC namecheck, and forwards the petition to the processing post by scanned e-mail. Posts must keep NVC informed of any changes in the e-mail address at post to which NVC is sending these cases. Send a Visas Hawk to NVC for any derivative at least 16 years old for whom no NCIC has been run. NVC also sends a letter to the U.S. petitioner to let him/her know the case has been forwarded to post.

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Processing/Issuing K3 Visas
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23. Standard IV processing is followed, including NCIC namechecks, police certificates, pertinent birth/marriage/divorce/death certificates, standard IV medical exam minus the vaccination requirement, and relationship bonafides, Ref E, 18-25. Unlike K1s and K2s, the IV system will not yet accept K3 as a visa class, and so the systems processing takes place exclusively in NIV. K3s must be issued in the country where the marriage took place, unless there is no IV or NIV issuing post in the country, see Ref E, 15-17. Applicants fill out two copies of the DS-156 NIV application form; they are not required to submit the new DS-157 form. Note that neither an I-864 or an I-134 is required; K3 applicants must present the I-864 when they adjust status in the United States with USCIS. Posts should not routinely require an I-134, except in those cases where the consular officer deems it necessary to overcome any public charge considerations that might arise from documents presented or the interview.

24. Unlike the V, and in the same manner as the K-1, K3 visas must be accompanied by a standard IV-style packet of documents, minus the affidavit of support. The K4''s documents may be included in the K3''s packet.

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Revocations of V and K3 cases
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25. The underlying I-130 petition for a V case is either in storage at NVC or pending approval in an USCIS office. To ask USCIS to reconsider the approval of a petition, post first needs to determine the location of the petition. Begin by requesting the I-130 IV file from NVC. If NVC has the file, post writes the usual revocation memo, attaches any available USCIS I-797, USCIS receipt number, IV case number and returns the file with the I-130 attached to the USCIS Missouri Service Center which handles all LIFE Act processing.

26. If NVC does not have the I-130 underlying petition for the V case, post may assume the case remains with USCIS. Post will write the usual revocation memo to USCIS with an explanation of why the I-130 is not attached, include a copy of any available I-797 or other documentation such as an USCIS receipt number, and send it to the Missouri Service Center.

27. To revoke a K3, post must obtain the original I-129F petition from NVC. Write the usual revocation memo with relevant attachments and send it to the Missouri Service Center.

28. Address of Missouri Service Center:
P.O. Box 648004
Lee''s Summit, MO 64063

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Processing V Applicants Who Obtained a Change of Status to V from USCIS in the United States
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29. V eligible applicants may obtain a change of status to V from USCIS in the United States. They will receive an I-797 in which the case type in the upper right is marked "I-539, Application to Extend/Change NIV Status." V will be indicated after "Class." The notice informs the applicant that if they depart the United States, "he or she must obtain a new visa in the new classification before returning to the U.S." V status holders are unable to reenter the United States without obtaining a V visa.

30. Such applicants should be listed as V-eligible in Class or the CCD, and this would confirm the information on the applicant''s presented I-797. If they are not listed, contact NVC or post''s regional officer in VO/F/P for assistance. USCIS has no reason to forward the I-539 to NVC as the applicant would most likely continue to process with USCIS rather than with an overseas consular section. But applicants may opt for overseas consular V processing.

31. Such applicants must undergo standard V processing, including the medical exam, police certificate, and all the requirements in Reftels B and D. If the NCIC is not done, send a Visas Hawk to NVC.

32. It will be left to post to determine how to schedule these applicants for V processing, based on post''s workload or other considerations.

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LIFE Legalization Applicants
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33. Aside from the provisions of the LIFE Act that created V and K3 visas, another section provides for legalization of those aliens who entered the United States before January 1, 1982 and who are registered as members of one of three class action lawsuits. USCIS has sole responsibility for determining eligibility of and processing these applicants. However, post may be asked to fingerprint an eligible applicant or his/her dependent that resides overseas. Instructions will follow septel.

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Future Role of Kentucky Consular Center (KCC) in V and K3 Processing
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34. In the near future, KCC will take over NVC''s role in LIFE Act processing, and mailings to applicants and petitioners regarding V and K3 visas will originate from KCC. I-129F K3 petitions will be relayed to posts via KCC rather than NVC, and KCC will maintain the post contact list that is now sent out with each V letter to applicants and petitioners. V-related 2nd preference petitions will continue to be held at NVC. Further information on this change will be available septel.

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Who can help post?
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35. For legal issues concerning the LIFE Act, contact CA/VO/L/R. Any questions on visa processing, contact CA/VO/F/P. If you don''t know how to use the CCD to check for V eligibility, contact CA/VO/F/S. For information on Visa Hawk or post receipt of K3 I-129F petitions by scanned e-mail, contact NVC.

36. Minimize considered.


mounir and suzieMaleEgypt2009-11-03 16:47:00
Middle East and North Africalast news about my case
hi to all
my wife called the DOS again yesterday then the agent told her yes now it says the embassy got the divorce certificate , so today i got an e mail from the embassy says we got the divorce paper and its pending to the officer to review it then when it complet we will process your case ,, so they add one other step cause i thought once they got it they will process it and issue the visa , also the DOS says the embassy in cairo at this time now are so busy , so hopefully they done it soon , just love to tell whats going on , wish the best luck for all .
mounir and suzieMaleEgypt2009-11-03 16:43:00
Middle East and North Africaquestion about where the american airport check your papers
QUOTE (AlHayatZween @ Nov 5 2009, 12:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Salaam,
They will check your papers at your first port of entry--the first airport.
My husband came through JFK and the whole process took about an hour or so... I can't tell you about other airports.
Try to leave a couple hours between flights if you can... But don't worry too much, it will work out okay! good.gif

thanks so much for the great information , wish all the best luck for all of you yes.gif
mounir and suzieMaleEgypt2009-11-05 01:42:00
Middle East and North Africaquestion about where the american airport check your papers
hi all ,, i know its earlier asking about this issue cause i didnt get my visa yet but its important to know to everyone , my question is .... where the imgrant officer start to check your paper is at the first airport you arrive or if you have another flight they let you go and check it at the state which you will arrive at the end of your flight? for example lots take a flight to NY(JFK) airport then take another one to go to any other state like LA or AZ or what ever and time between the two flight three hours or four waiting between each flight so if they start check your papers on the first airport or let you go then check it at the last airport ? this is important to know cause if they check it on the first one need to know how long they take if longer they can let you miss your next flight and i heard they took longer time to check your papers so please any information about that to let everyone know and manage the flight as well choice the right time between the flights and all , thanks so much .
mounir and suzieMaleEgypt2009-11-04 23:43:00
Middle East and North AfricaDo you think the embassy will send our case back to USA?!!
QUOTE (Hot Guy @ Nov 4 2009, 04:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Bajih @ Nov 4 2009, 02:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hot Guy- I know this whole process sucks... and it is made worse because we never get any information. The whole idea of waiting without knowing for how long; or what the outcome will be is driving me crazy. cray5ol.gif I think I would be even more frustrated if they kept asking me for things like they have with you.. at least in my case, all has been quiet since the interview in April..

I would like to know this whole thing about 'sending the case back to US'. Would they tell you? Why might this happen? Would you have to start the whole process over again? I know there is some sort of "expiration" thing... which I am praying automatically gets renewed.

Agh- too many questions about everything!
Insha'Allah, things will start coming together soon for all of us that have been waiting.
Baj

Ap is the worst part for that journey and i'm really sick of waiting .we contacted everyone to help us but the white house .and still no news .i even asked the embassy very direct question and i told them to give me a direct answer i said '' are you going to give me the visa or you will send my case back to USA so it will expire and they will close it there ?'' they said the case is pending Ap LOOOOOL.

Well about sending the case back to USA yeah they should tell you that they will send it back to USA for futher review but sometimes they don't say anything about it .cause they don't want you to argue about it with them .and you will not know till the USCIS send you a letter saying that they get your case !

Why might that happen ?

Petitions/applications are returned for a variety of case specific reasons. Returning a petition/application to the USCIS means that the embassy/consulate refuses to issue a visa to the beneficiary, but they do not have specific evidence to actually deny a visa application. So the next best thing to do is return the petition/application to the USCIS office where the petition was originally filed requesting further review and ultimately recommending revocation.

Well talking about if you have to start that whole process over again .yeah maybe you will have to do that.cause in most cases after the USCIS get the case they let it till its expire .and once its expire it means you have to start that sh*t all over again .

here is what will happen if the embassy send the petition back to USCIS

  • 221(g) is issued to beneficiary at conclusion of the interview stating the application and/or petition is being returned to the United States.
  • Petition is returned to the United States by the interviewing consulate for "further review" in what is called a diplomatic pouch.
  • Returned petition is received by the NVC. It is reviewed and entered into the fraud database by fraud management.
  • Returned petition is sent to the local USCIS service center where the petition was originally filed and approved.
  • Local service center receives returned petition.
  • Local service center who processed the original petition sends a notice of receipt to the petitioner.
  • Local service center reviews the returned petition and consular officer notes on the case.
  • Local service center then sends either a NOID (Notice of Intent to Deny) or NOIR (Notice of Intent to Revoke) to the petitioner also asking for more proof of the relationship, many cases have specific consular objections to rebut.
  • Petitioner is given 30-60 days from date of NOIR/NOID (depending on the service center) to respond with additional evidence of the relationship or other specific evidence. The timeframe to respond will be provided in the letter.
  • Local service center receives evidence...if in the timeframe given (30-60 days) the case is reviewed and either original approval is reaffirmed or the petition is officially denied.
  • If the petition is denied the local service center sends the petitioner an 'official' denial letter. This can be officially appealed if the denial letter states such.
  • If the petition is reaffirmed the local service center sends the petitioner an official notice of reaffirmation.
  • Local service center sends the reaffirmed petition AND its evidence provided in the rebuttal directly to the consulate along with a recommendation to issue a visa.
  • Consulate notifies the beneficiary of a new interview date.
  • Beneficiary has interview for the reaffirmed petition and the visa is either issued, or the case in placed in Administrative Processing which after cleared a visa is issued, or worst case scenario it is denied via Section 221(g) and returned again to the USCIS with a recommendation for revocation.
I hope that we will hear good news soon .
Good luck and my best wishes for you .

Mohamed

hi brother i wish i can tell some information about that but really i dont know cause you never understand their next step or act but i will keep praying for you to get it so soon i know well how hard its wish everyone on here done this waiting time ,, today my wife called the DOS then told her no other step just co review then stamp it and mailing the visa to your husband then she asked how long it gonna take she said from one to two weeks ,, so hopefully she said the right thing to give it just short AP , i hope the best for you brother also i do agree about they wont send the case back to us or deny it ,, best luck.

mounir and suzieMaleEgypt2009-11-05 00:05:00
Middle East and North Africawhat you need to do to get your social security card
QUOTE (Hot Guy @ Nov 6 2009, 04:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (mounir and suzie @ Nov 6 2009, 11:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Hot Guy @ Nov 6 2009, 05:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

thanks Ahmed my brother so much it's helpful thanks so much , wish all the best for you .


You are more than welcome .BTW my name is Mohamed not Ahmed !

sorry brother for the mistake to call your name wrong i'm really sorry about that ,, so here i tell you thanks so so so much Mohamed it was a great two links you gave to me , wish to hear good news from you so soon , all my best wishes for you .

QUOTE (ya fallaha! @ Nov 6 2009, 04:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As others said above, you must either apply for AOS and/or EAD before obtaining a Social Security number. May I suggest that you hold off on filing AOS until you have been married close to two years? If AOS is approved AFTER you've been married two years you will be granted the 10 year permanent residency instead of the two year. You can always apply for a stand alone EAD card as soon as you arrive in the US. This will enable you to work and apply for a Social Security card. The EAD should take around 3-5 months to receive.

thanks for the kind reply , i will thinking of that you give me a good idea i really will think about that with my wife to decide what we will going to do , sure all of this after i get my visa cause i still waiting to get it hopefully soon i hear something ,, wish you all the best .
mounir and suzieMaleEgypt2009-11-06 21:08:00
Middle East and North Africawhat you need to do to get your social security card
QUOTE (Hot Guy @ Nov 6 2009, 05:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

thanks Ahmed my brother so much it's helpful thanks so much , wish all the best for you .
mounir and suzieMaleEgypt2009-11-06 11:59:00
Middle East and North Africawhat you need to do to get your social security card
salam everyone , first i want to thanks all who always reply and help in fact most of the people on here is big helper ,, so since most of us is waiting to get the visa i would love to ask about any thoughs came on the mind i think it will be useful for me and for other so here guys i want to know if you K3 and once you get your visa and went there is us .. what you need to do to get the social security card ? what papers you need to fill and how this process working out ? wish to get some answers about that , wish to all of you the best luck and this waiting time goes by so fast .
mounir and suzieMaleEgypt2009-11-06 00:24:00