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US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionHusbands interview went well in Cairo
QUOTE (Betsy El Sum @ Dec 22 2009, 12:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What you are experiencing is pretty much textbook Cairo. Hang in there you are in the last stretch!!

Thank you all Im trying much not to worry. Have you ever heard of being approved but not keeping his passport?

JeniLovesMarwanFemaleEgypt2009-12-22 12:23:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionHusbands interview went well in Cairo
Hello my husband had his visa interview today in Cairo Egypt and he said it went very good. The CO asked him very little questions and he knew all the answers but a couple things has me worried. I came to Egypt and stayed with my husband and his family for over 6 months so we could file the petititon DCF after the petition was approved I came back to the US because I have 3 small children. When my husband went for his interview today the CO never asked to see any emails or pictures or anything to prove our relationship. And then she said he was approved for his visa but then she gave him his passport back and said the embassy will call him in 1 week to send back his passport DHL and that he is in AP but that is normal and he is still approved. Has anyone experieced this or know why she would say he was approved but gave his passport back to him? Please help I am so worried
JeniLovesMarwanFemaleEgypt2009-12-22 12:15:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionAffidavit of Support Question
QUOTE (pushbrk @ Nov 7 2009, 12:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (hayati @ Nov 7 2009, 06:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Also, just briefly looking over the I-134 form... since my parents are cosponsoring, do each of them have to fill the form out separately? Or, for example, can the form be filled out in my mom's name but both of their incomes taken into consideration (they're still married and as far as I can tell they file jointly on their tax forms)?

Thanks a bunch!


Only one parent acts as the cosponsor. Pick the one with the qualifying income. That person will provide the joint tax return with W2 and/or 1099 forms to indicate which portions of the joint income are their own. They state only their personal income, not the joint income.


Thanks pushbrk for the clarification... but now I'm confused. The 2009 poverty guidelines is based on how many people are in the household and the household income (if I understood correctly). Basically they must make x amount for the number of people they claim (5) plus 1 (the foreign fiance) making a total of 6. If they are only looking at one parent's income, surely that one parent's income is not supposed to cover all 6?? Correct? How will I know which is the qualifying income? Am I unable to have two cosponsors (in addition to myself) if the one parent's income doesn't qualify for the six people?
hayatiFemaleEgypt2009-11-07 14:10:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionAffidavit of Support Question
QUOTE (Stephen + Elisha @ Nov 7 2009, 10:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (hayati @ Nov 7 2009, 09:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Bottom line, should I be concerned that the consulate will deny us based on this?

Your most immediate concern should be how you're going to convince the consulate of your US domicile. As you're living in Egypt, you're going to need concrete evidence showing that you're in the process of relocating to the US. Hopefully you're already aware of this and have taken it into consideration.


Hmm... would pending law school applications be proof of this? I do still have permanent residence in the US (with my parents). I graduated in 2008, moved straight to Egypt (am half Egyptian so it's not that random, plus I spent a year studying abroad here before I returned), with the plan of taking two years off before moving back to the US (permanently) for law school and beyond. I don't think my situation is that questionable, is it? Now how to prove it? We'll be living with my parents for the few months before law school while we hunt for an apartment, etc, so it's not like we will have anything showing that we've already obtained residence there....
hayatiFemaleEgypt2009-11-07 10:40:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionAffidavit of Support Question
Sorry about posting in the incorrect forum.

Yep, "Otto und Karin," I filed from Egypt.... meaning, I sent my K1 Petition to USCIS from Egypt via DHL. So, I went through the exact same process as anyone else, except my location is abroad rather than from the US... but I have a permanent address in the US (parents). We could have went through this process a lot faster had we done a Direct Consular Filing but that requires being married and we didn't want to rush the marriage part just for the convenience of moving the process along faster. Besides, my plans weren't to return to the US until Fall 2010 so it worked out well. We are lucky enough to be together during this process. smile.gif

Now, anyone have any advice on my question(s)?
hayatiFemaleEgypt2009-11-07 10:37:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionAffidavit of Support Question
Hi All,

I have a quick question about the affidavit of support paperwork, the I-134...

My fiance is Egyptian, so the application is for him and I am considered the primary sponsor. After reading through the guides and tons of information on the internet, I'm a little bit concerned regarding our situation. My parents have agreed to be a cosponsor. By the 2009 poverty guidelines, they make enough money to cover the requirement (I think 125% of the poverty level) for him and their household. So that's good... but the guides say specifically that the US fiance is always considered the primary sponsor. So I have to fill out the paperwork, which is fine. Also, I read that the consulate will take into consideration whether or not the US fiance has plans to work actively (if not already). Well, here's our situation..

I am living and working in Egypt and have been for over a year. Def. the amount of money I make here does not qualify to cover him and also, once he's given the visa, we are both moving back to the US. However, next fall (2010) I will be attending law school. 1Ls are not allowed to work during the first year. So, though I do plan on looking for a job as soon as I return (perhaps in March or so) to save up before law school, come August or so, I have to quit. Will this hurt our situation? The fact that I'm going to be a student?

It's not an ideal situation to be in and we both realize that. We're hoping and praying that he'll be able to find a job before school starts and that the loans I will have to take out for law school (which factors in living expenses since they don't allow you to work during your first year and don't advise working in 2nd and 3rd year) will help us out a bit. Plus, we'll both have a little money saved up from our jobs here... not a huge amount and def. not enough to cover what the consulate will expect, but we're trying. Like I said, it's not ideal... but of course, people don't really plan relationships and such. It's just the course life has taken us in and we have to deal with it.

Bottom line, should I be concerned that the consulate will deny us based on this?

Also, just briefly looking over the I-134 form... since my parents are cosponsoring, do each of them have to fill the form out separately? Or, for example, can the form be filled out in my mom's name but both of their incomes taken into consideration (they're still married and as far as I can tell they file jointly on their tax forms)?

Thanks a bunch!
hayatiFemaleEgypt2009-11-07 09:11:00
Removing Conditions on Residency General Discussionchange back to my maiden name
If you want your name back.. do the paperwork.. it is your right.. However please take alittle time to consider the future.. if you and your husband intend to live in the U.S. and have children- it will make life easier as it is customary for the wife to take the husbands last name.. no it is not required but it is customary.. to others you will naturally be Mrs. (husbands last name) and you will have to correct them. And for some when they see your children have a different last name then you.. it will be assumed that you are divorced. As for your parents.. you passport has you maiden name and will continue to.. so to you family you will always be Mrs. (maiden name) Shakespear has it correct.. a rose by any other name would smell as sweet!
queenofthenileFemaleEgypt2012-03-11 16:05:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresVery confused about how to get started
I am a US citizen and I recently came to Egypt to live with my Egyptian husband. I planned on staying for 6 months because I thought we could begin all things and then he would hopefully be able to come back with me to the US after these 6 months. However, when we went to the American embassey here in Cairo they told us I have to live here for 6 months and then we can begin all things. I want to know which would be the fastest way to start all things now when I am here in Egypt and send all things to the US or wait until after I am here in Egypt for 6 months and then start all things. The embassey has told us it would be easier for me to stay here for 6 months and then begin all things but I just dont understand the difference. I thought if I came here to Egypt for 6 months it would be quicker but if I have to wait 6 months and then start all things it could still be like 1 year. Also I am not sure how to send all things to US if I am staying in Egypt. Can anyone help me please.
Thank you
JeniLovesMarwanFemaleEgypt2009-04-09 08:58:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionI-864 Question
QUOTE (JeniLovesMarwan @ Aug 7 2009, 07:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thank you for your reply. So if we are living with my mother she will need to fill out the I-864A and any other joint sponsor that we may get, that we are NOT living with needs to fill out the I-864? If we are not living with this joint sponsor why must they still add us to their household size? Also my husband and I will be living in Michigan is it acceptable to get a joint sponsor for my husband from a family friend that lives in New Jersey? Thank you so much.




QUOTE (Bobby_Umit @ Aug 6 2009, 08:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
864a is used by members of the same household.

864 is for everyone else.


[quote name='JeniLovesMarwan' date='Aug 7 2009, 07:33 PM' post='3193528']
Thank you for your reply. So if we are living with my mother she will need to fill out the I-864A and any other joint sponsor that we may get, that we are NOT living with needs to fill out the I-864? If we are not living with this joint sponsor why must they still add us to their household size? Also my husband and I will be living in Michigan is it acceptable to get a joint sponsor for my husband from a family friend that lives in New Jersey? Thank you so much.


JeniLovesMarwanFemaleEgypt2009-08-07 18:46:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionI-864 Question
QUOTE (sjr09 @ Aug 6 2009, 09:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (JeniLovesMarwan @ Aug 6 2009, 09:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have a question about the Affidavit of Support. What is the difference between the I-864 and the I-864A. I am the petitioner and the sponsor and I know I need to fill out the I-864 however, I have not worked so I dont have any income so my mother will be a co-sponsor and Im not sure if she fills out the I-864 or the I-864A. Im just not sure of the difference in this forms. Thanks.

This may pose a problem with no income, how are you going to support the beneficiary in the future?


I was married for 13 years and was a stay at home mom and didnt need to work and then I divorced and for the past 2 years I have been going to college to better my education so I am able to get a good job. My beneficiary (my husband) when he comes to the US will find his own work also so we will support each other.

JeniLovesMarwanFemaleEgypt2009-08-07 18:38:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionI-864 Question
Thank you for your reply. So if we are living with my mother she will need to fill out the I-864A and any other joint sponsor that we may get, that we are NOT living with needs to fill out the I-864? If we are not living with this joint sponsor why must they still add us to their household size? Also my husband and I will be living in Michigan is it acceptable to get a joint sponsor for my husband from a family friend that lives in New Jersey? Thank you so much.




QUOTE (Bobby_Umit @ Aug 6 2009, 08:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
864a is used by members of the same household.

864 is for everyone else.


JeniLovesMarwanFemaleEgypt2009-08-07 18:33:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionI-864 Question
I have a question about the Affidavit of Support. What is the difference between the I-864 and the I-864A. I am the petitioner and the sponsor and I know I need to fill out the I-864 however, I have not worked so I dont have any income so my mother will be a co-sponsor and Im not sure if she fills out the I-864 or the I-864A. Im just not sure of the difference in this forms. Thanks.
JeniLovesMarwanFemaleEgypt2009-08-06 20:00:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionI-864 and I-864A sooooooo confused please help
Ok I am just soooo confused, I hope someone can help me. The I-864A is a family member that lives with you and is co-sponsoring my spouse and must make enough money for ALL in the household. But what is a joint sponsor that only fills out the I-864? Can this joint sponsor be a family member but not live with us and only have to use their household size? Also can this joint sponsor live in another state? Must a joint sponsor include my husband and I and my children in their household size if we are not living with them? Or do they just have to make enough money to support themselves and my spouse. Im just confused the difference in a joint sponsor that fills out the I-864 and a joint sponsor that fills out the I-864A

Also if we do end up living with my parents and they co-sponsor also when I fill out my I-864 do I just put my income or do I put their income also on my I-864 and also have them do I-864A?

Last thing sorry, my mother and father are married and live together, my father works and my mother gets retirement pay every month. They file their taxes jointly together but when they do the I-864A would it be my father that fills this form out and really is the sponsor or can my mother do this since they file together?

I hope I didnt confuse anyone, its hard to explain I know if you want me to explain better just let me know. Hope someone can answer these questions for me. Thank you so much
JeniLovesMarwanFemaleEgypt2009-08-08 19:41:00
US Embassy and Consulate Discussionquestions about co-sponsor
QUOTE (Anh map @ Aug 9 2009, 06:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (JeniLovesMarwan @ Aug 9 2009, 06:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Anh map @ Aug 9 2009, 03:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You have no income so living in the sam house with your parents or not will have no bearing unless your parents would then claim you and your kids as dependents.

Your household size (based on what you have said) is 5.

Co-sponsor household is number of dependents on last tax return plus 1 for your husband. You and your USC children are not being sponsored.

Co-sponsor can be any USC or LPR.


So if we do or we do not live with my parents they will only claim my husband in their household size so it would be my mother, father, and my husband so 3 in household size and even if I have no income and we live or do not live with my parents I will put 5 as my household size me, my husband and my 3 kids? My parents never have and will not claim me or my kids as dependents on their income tax. Im sorry I know I must sound very stupid but I am just so confused please someone help me clear all this up.
1. If me, my spouse, my 3 kids live with my mom and dad and I have no income and my mom and dad sponsor my husband when determining if their income is enough how many is that in their household size___________?
2. If we do not live with my mom and dad but my mom still sponsors my husband what is her household size____________?
3. If my husband get a sponsor that we do not live with and they are not family what would be his household size__________?


Your household size (based on what you have said) is 5.

You MUST submit an I-864 even with no income. Plus if you have not filed tax returns for the any of the last 3 years you must submit a written explination of why you were not required (see page 8 of the I-864 instructions).



Co-sponsor household is number of dependents on last tax return plus 1 for your husband.

Any co-sponsor must count in their household size all the dependents claimed on their last tax return PLUS your husband. If your parents are combining incomes one will complete and I-864 and the other will complete an I-864A.

Ok thank you so much I think I am finally starting to understand SOME. Any co-sponsor that we get will base their household size on the co-sponsor, any dependents that are on the co-sponsor tax return, and my spouse am I correct on this? But what still confuses me is if we live with my parents my father will fill out the I-864A (contract between sponsor and household member) and I have no income will my father have to put me and my children down as household size as well. For example me, my spouse, my 3 kids are living in my mom and dad's home with them and my father fills out the I-864A contract will he base his household size income on all 7 of us in the home or still just would be mom and dad and my spouse. I believe someone told me that its based on ANYONE that lives in the home so my father would have to base the household size on ALL that are in the home ex. me and my kids. That is why I am so confused.


JeniLovesMarwanFemaleEgypt2009-08-09 20:34:00
US Embassy and Consulate Discussionquestions about co-sponsor
QUOTE (Anh map @ Aug 9 2009, 03:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You have no income so living in the sam house with your parents or not will have no bearing unless your parents would then claim you and your kids as dependents.

Your household size (based on what you have said) is 5.

Co-sponsor household is number of dependents on last tax return plus 1 for your husband. You and your USC children are not being sponsored.

Co-sponsor can be any USC or LPR.


So if we do or we do not live with my parents they will only claim my husband in their household size so it would be my mother, father, and my husband so 3 in household size and even if I have no income and we live or do not live with my parents I will put 5 as my household size me, my husband and my 3 kids? My parents never have and will not claim me or my kids as dependents on their income tax. Im sorry I know I must sound very stupid but I am just so confused please someone help me clear all this up.
1. If me, my spouse, my 3 kids live with my mom and dad and I have no income and my mom and dad sponsor my husband when determining if their income is enough how many is that in their household size___________?
2. If we do not live with my mom and dad but my mom still sponsors my husband what is her household size____________?
3. If my husband get a sponsor that we do not live with and they are not family what would be his household size__________?
JeniLovesMarwanFemaleEgypt2009-08-09 17:16:00
US Embassy and Consulate Discussionquestions about co-sponsor
This is my problem, I have not worked in over 12 years I was married before and was a stay at home mom to my 3 children. And then I divorced and started going back to college so still I didnt work. I do have a job and am renting a place to live now. But I do not meet the income requirements nor do I have any tax returns to show any prove of income. . Therefore I have no income at this time to support my spouse but I know I must still fill out the I-864. These are my questions:

1. If my spouse and I and my 3 children decide to live with my mother and father and my father co-sponsors for my spouse then my father must fill out the I-864A and must make enough money for a household size of 7 people is this correct?

2. If we decide not to live with my mother and father and we continue to stay in the place I am renting now, but I still have my father co-sponsor my husband what would be the household size then? Would my father still need to make enough money for 7 people or would it be just 3 people my mother and father and my spouse and my father would need to fill out the I-864 not the I-864A?

3. If we get a sponsor that is not a family member and we are NOT living with him in his home what would he add for the household size? and can this sponsor live in a different state?

It just seems like the more people in the household the more money my co-sponsors must make so Im just confused if the co-sponsors must add my spouse, myself and my 3 kids as household size if they are sponsoring my spouse but we are not living with them in their home.
JeniLovesMarwanFemaleEgypt2009-08-08 22:21:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionI-864 and I-134
QUOTE (pushbrk @ Aug 12 2009, 11:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Anh map @ Aug 11 2009, 03:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I-134 is used for a K visa petition. For DCF you will be submitting the I-864.


Right, just forget about the I-134 if yours is a DCF case.

ty so very much
JeniLovesMarwanFemaleEgypt2009-08-12 20:10:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionI-864 and I-134
Are the I-864 and the I-134 basically the same forms. My co-sponsor will need to fill out the I-134 just like the I-864 along with their tax returns for both of these forms and I will also fill out both these forms. thank you
JeniLovesMarwanFemaleEgypt2009-08-11 17:19:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionI-864 question about joint sponsor
I will be getting a joint-sponsor that is NOT a household member, so my question is when I am filling out my I-864 do I add my joint-sponsor's income to my income on the I-864 and do they also do the same for me on their I-864? Thanks so much
JeniLovesMarwanFemaleEgypt2009-08-21 17:42:00
US Embassy and Consulate Discussionquestion about co-sponsor
QUOTE (Anh map @ Aug 21 2009, 07:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes, an LPR can be a sponsor.



Thank you so much for your help

JeniLovesMarwanFemaleEgypt2009-08-21 19:52:00
US Embassy and Consulate Discussionquestion about co-sponsor
Can I get a joint-sponsor that has only been in the US for 3 years? He still has his green card and has not become a US citizen yet? Thanks
JeniLovesMarwanFemaleEgypt2009-08-21 17:51:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionI-864 question about joint sponsor
QUOTE (Gary and Alla @ Sep 13 2009, 05:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (JeniLovesMarwan @ Sep 13 2009, 06:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have a question concerning the I-864 and getting a joint sponsor. I have always been a stay at home mom (now divorced and remarried to my Egyptian husband) so therefore I haven't worked for some time so I dont have any tax returns or will be able to sponsor my husband alone, So I will have to find a joint sponsor. I know in determining your income and how much money you need to make is determined by your household size, but what I dont understand is are we basing the income on MY household size and the joint sponsor is helping me meet the household income requirements or since I haven't worked are we basing the income on my joint sponsor's household size. My household size is 5 (me, my 3 kids and my husband whom I am sponsoring) so that is I believe around $33,000 for the poverty guidelines. I did receive around $5000 last year from child support so does this mean my joint sponsor needs to make around 28,000 to make up the difference in this? Or does my $5000 not really count since I haven't worked and we are just basing everything on my joint sponsor's household size and income? Also do I fill out the I-134 and the I-864 at the same time and send both of these in together at the same time? Thank you


The incomes cannot be combined UNLESS the joint sponsor is a household member and uses the I-864a. If the joint sponsor is not a household member then his income must be sufficient to support himself, any dependents he has here AND your fiancee. You will also fill out an I-864 even though you do not have income or are not qulaified.

I do not know if you need the I-134 for a DCF, I believe the DCF, an immigrant visa, uses only the I-864.

Thanks so much, I have one more question. If my mother will be a joint sponsor for my husband and just her and my father live in the home (they both have jobs) will my mother count my father as household size. So if its my mother, father living in the home would the household size be my mother, my father and my husband. or just my mother and my husband. Im confused about this because my father works also and my mother doesnt support my father because they both work. Thanks

JeniLovesMarwanFemaleEgypt2009-09-14 07:16:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionI-864 question about joint sponsor
I have a question concerning the I-864 and getting a joint sponsor. I have always been a stay at home mom (now divorced and remarried to my Egyptian husband) so therefore I haven't worked for some time so I dont have any tax returns or will be able to sponsor my husband alone, So I will have to find a joint sponsor. I know in determining your income and how much money you need to make is determined by your household size, but what I dont understand is are we basing the income on MY household size and the joint sponsor is helping me meet the household income requirements or since I haven't worked are we basing the income on my joint sponsor's household size. My household size is 5 (me, my 3 kids and my husband whom I am sponsoring) so that is I believe around $33,000 for the poverty guidelines. I did receive around $5000 last year from child support so does this mean my joint sponsor needs to make around 28,000 to make up the difference in this? Or does my $5000 not really count since I haven't worked and we are just basing everything on my joint sponsor's household size and income? Also do I fill out the I-134 and the I-864 at the same time and send both of these in together at the same time? Thank you
JeniLovesMarwanFemaleEgypt2009-09-13 17:10:00