Forum	Title	Content	Member	Sex	Country	Date/Time
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Getting ready to file!	Everything is signed and dated. Do you mean the letters/forms are signed and dated where signatures/dates are required, or that everything is signed and dated? I am almost ready to send my I-129F package myself, and I haven't seen any instructions everywhere saying to sign/date every single thing I include, so I'm curious. Otherwise, looks pretty much like what I am including! (Which could, of course, mean that we are both wrong.) How are you including/labeling your photos? Edited by afoyoswa, 24 January 2012 - 02:20 PM.	afoyoswa	Female	Uganda	2012-01-24 14:19:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	I-129F not delivered	The same thing happened to me! The first delivery notice was posted at 10pm on Monday (a Federal holiday), which made me wonder a little: did they really think anyone would take delivery of a package then? But then the next day it showed up as delivered. Now I'm just waiting for them to let me know that they realize they have it...	afoyoswa	Female	Uganda	2012-02-22 15:58:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	declaration of how we met in person within the last 2 years	I wrote, "Aaron and I first met 12/27/10 in Entebbe, Uganda while I was visiting the home of <name> (my friend and his cousin) 12/27/10-1/11/11, since which time we have kept in touch via phone and Internet. I visited him again 7/2-7/9/11. During my 3rd visit 12/24/11-1/9/12 we traveled together to visit his sister in Nairobi, Kenya 1/5-1/8/12, where we became engaged on 1/7/12." Most of the evidence we submitted as proof of meeting within 2 years concerns the Nairobi trip, but I also wanted to briefly present background of the rest of our time together. Only at NOA1, so I'm not sure whether it worked, but it made sense to me.	afoyoswa	Female	Uganda	2012-02-24 19:07:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	proof of meeting passport copies	Isn't it supposed to be stamps + bio pages if you are submitting it as evidence of meeting, and all the pages if you're using the passport to prove U.S. citizenship? I did both: I sent all of the pages together (to prove citizenship), and then separately, I copied the pages with the stamps and put them together with all of the other evidence for each visit. (Note: this has not yet been proven effective: still awaiting NOA2.)	afoyoswa	Female	Uganda	2012-02-25 17:43:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	K1 approved! Can my fiance com any earlier than 3 months?	From what I have read here, once the K-1 visa is in his passport, that single entry would be automatically used the next time he enters the U.S., regardless of the existence of any other visas. I'm sure others who are more knowledgeable will comment, but for the record, I'd really love to have this problem! Edited: misread OP; removed incorrect information. Edited by afoyoswa, 28 February 2012 - 10:49 PM.	afoyoswa	Female	Uganda	2012-02-28 22:42:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Saving Account in Bank if Petitioner is still student	I don't think anyone is going to be able to answer your questions definitively without more information. But, making a bunch of assumptions, I'm assuming your fiancé is the petitioner/USC? If he has no income (or so little that he is below the tax threshold: $600, I believe?), then what is he living on? In order to bring you here, he would need to earn above the poverty line for 2 people or have a co-sponsor. If I recall correctly, assets can also be counted, but the total would need to be 5 times larger than he would need in income, so unless he has a very large amount in savings, it sounds like a co-sponsor would be necessary.	afoyoswa	Female	Uganda	2012-03-07 08:52:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Filing for K1 after nikah in Pakistan	What I don't understand is how that nikkah will be relevant to his petition when the consulate and USCIS by default will not be able to take it into consideration because it was a invalid marriage. Its an invalid marriage for immigration purposes so not like the situations that you mentioned. I understand about unregistered nikkahs etc but what you are saying in effect is a polygomous marriage IS relevant for USCIS purposes and that does seem rather ridiculous because it is contradictory to public policy. It made perfect sense to me. No fiance visa because the consulate will suspect him to be already married, having had a religious ceremony there, and will at the same time be disturbed that he was not single then. And no spouse visa because the marriage is not valid for immigration purposes, since it was performed when he was not free to marry. Leaving him caught somewhere in the no-man's land between "not married" and "married" (for immigration purposes). A do-over would only potentially help with the spouse visa option, but the relationship timeline would still be a source of great interest and potential problems for the consulate. (And I'm not sure, from my limited experience, what a lawyer would contribute to this, having already read about quite a few cases of "But my *lawyer* said..." information that were very much at odds with what eventually happened at the consulate, who are the ones who ultimately get to make the decision.) Edited by afoyoswa, 14 March 2012 - 08:19 PM.	afoyoswa	Female	Uganda	2012-03-14 20:19:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	change date on form after printed and signed	All the documents my fiancé sent me for our petition were printed on A4 paper. I ended up using a paper cutter to trim off a little of the blank space at the top and bottom of the sheets so that they would fit neatly into my stack of 8.5x11 sheets.	afoyoswa	Female	Uganda	2012-03-16 06:23:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	No proof of ongoing relationship	Presumably you had enough evidence to send with the petition to prove you met within 2 years: boarding passes, photos, etc.? Bring the originals of all of that evidence, plus evidence that you have continued to maintain a relationship since you submitted the petition. I will not be seeing my fiance until just before our interview, either, but we will have emails, phone records, maybe even some snail mail, records of wedding preparations, etc. between the petition submission and the interview.	afoyoswa	Female	Uganda	2012-03-19 09:51:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Total Fees	Quite a few of these costs are embassy-specific, so you're more likely to get an accurate figure if you post in your regional forum. That said, what do you mean by "interview process"? There's the petition ($340) and the visa application ($350), but beyond that it's embassy-specific until you get to the U.S. and AOS. I'm really not too fussed about having things come out even, myself, but more with having the correct amount of money where it needs to be to pay a given expense when it needs to be paid, whether it's from him or from me. Once he's here we'll be sharing finances more in general and he'll also be earning money in USD, so there's plenty of time to sort that out later.	afoyoswa	Female	Uganda	2012-03-14 19:52:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Marrying before getting SSN	Like many of us, my fiance and I would like to get legally married very soon after he enters the US with his K-1 visa (and then have the friends/family wedding ~2 months later), in order to speed up the timelines for work, travel, AOS, etc. However, when I checked the requirements to apply for a marriage license in my state (Massachusetts), it appears that the state requires a SSN from both parties in order to satisfy federal reporting requirements to do with making sure people are in the US legally. We would rather not wait the 2 weeks until being able to apply for the SSN (and I imagine that it takes even longer after the application to receive the number). How does this work if you are in the US legally on a K-1 visa but do not yet have a SSN? People must get around this if it is possible to get married on a tourist visa and then return back to your home country for CR-1, as some people do. Does anyone have experience with this, particularly in my state? Thanks in advance for any helpful experiences/information that anyone can contribute!	afoyoswa	Female	Uganda	2012-03-26 11:53:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Letter of intent: signature & printed name underneath	Apparently when people begin the immigration process they forget they have brain cells. Was it really necessary to come into a thread where a question was clearly and considerately asked and answered, and everyone involved had moved on, and say something like this? Even having only been here a few weeks, I've already seen some of the same questions asked multiple times, but if seeing such a thing bothers you so much that you feel the need to be snarky, maybe the problem is not with the askers (who are, after all, making use of this site for its intended purpose) but with the readers for deliberately exposing themselves to stimuli guaranteed to make them angry. Edited by afoyoswa, 31 January 2012 - 02:36 PM.	afoyoswa	Female	Uganda	2012-01-31 14:34:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Letter of intent: signature & printed name underneath	Thanks!	afoyoswa	Female	Uganda	2012-01-29 08:07:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Letter of intent: signature & printed name underneath	The example letter of intent says to print our names under our signatures. Should we do this by hand, or type the names on the computer under the area where the signatures will be before we generate the paper copies? I assumed that I should type it into the electronic document, and he assumed that he should use a pen, which is when I realized that I had no idea which was correct.	afoyoswa	Female	Uganda	2012-01-28 17:28:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	edeting letters? chat? skype? pls HELP	Yeah, I wouldn't submit conversations/letters in which you need to black material out: it makes you look like you have something to hide. The only things I censored in the documents I sent were confidential financial details such as credit card numbers, bank account numbers, and phone account PINs.	afoyoswa	Female	Uganda	2012-03-29 08:53:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Attorney Representation - What Good Is Having One?	I read the post also and that's what I interpreted. There was nothing from what I read that he was superior to you , me or anyone because he had hired a lawyer. Good for you! Isn't it amazing how we are all speaking the same language, and yet we can perceive written tone so very differently from each other? It's a big part of what makes online forums so delightful.	afoyoswa	Female	Uganda	2012-03-27 22:03:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Attorney Representation - What Good Is Having One?	He's not implying anything other than he loves his fiancee and hired a lawyer to play it safe. He's banking on the lawyer will do the paperwork correctly and without error. I'm not entirely sure what your post accomplishes, exactly, since you were not the one who wrote his post and therefore you have no way of knowing what he was or was not implying, but thanks for attempting to clarify. For that matter, I don't know what he was or wasn't implying, either, but it did not come across well to me.	afoyoswa	Female	Uganda	2012-03-27 19:07:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Attorney Representation - What Good Is Having One?	I am not rich but I love my fiance so much that I prefer to play it safe and pay to get all the legal advice and experience possible from someone who has helped hundreds if not thousands of others. So far my lawyer has been very helpful. Remember that even if you pay for a lawyer you must get your self involved in the case as much as your lawyer. Is great that some have the time and feel confident enough to go for it on their own but I would never advice against hiring a lawyer to others. Paying for guidance, legal advice and the assistance to help me bring the love of my life to my country is not a waste of money as apparently it is so to others. I know you mean well, but it really comes across as though you are equating love with the willingness to pay for a lawyer. People have a lot of different opinions about the necessity and advisability of legal representation for the K-1 process, and it probably irks you to have paid for a lawyer and then to see people ridiculing this route. That, however, is no reason to imply that those of us who haven't paid for lawyers love our fiance(e)s less than you do or to portray yourself as being superior somehow for having made the choice that you did.	afoyoswa	Female	Uganda	2012-03-27 09:07:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Making sure petition isn't lost	Surely the chance of them losing the petition after the NOA1 but before the NOA2 isn't 0. It is sent from the Texas lock box to the service center after all. Or is the NOA1 sent from the service center, not the sorting facility? My NOA1 came in an envelope with a Vermont return address, which makes me think it came directly from the service center.	afoyoswa	Female	Uganda	2012-03-29 13:44:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	k1 payment,,, help asap	but it's not the case of saving money vs speeding things up for me. My fiance just sent out the P3, and waiting for P4, we will not know out interview date before we receive P4, and even having P4 in hand, our interview date is not scheduled a monthn after receiving p4, so we got the time to wait. Ah, okay! At the embassy we'll be working with, there are no packets to send in. If the embassy has the petition & thus the fee can be paid, that's the last step before the interview can be scheduled, so delaying the payment would delay the interview. Either way, happy news that it will cost less for us!	afoyoswa	Female	Uganda	2012-03-30 12:18:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	k1 payment,,, help asap	good thing i read this, gonna tell my fiance to hold off the visa fee until then, since our interview isn't scheduled yet. This is one reason to be glad I'm nowhere near paying the visa fee yet! I wouldn't want to have to make the choice between saving money and speeding things up, even if only by a couple of weeks. I'm pretty ridiculously frugal, but even with that I still think I'd choose seeing my sweetheart a few weeks sooner over $110.	afoyoswa	Female	Uganda	2012-03-30 11:08:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	k1 payment,,, help asap	The cost for a K1 Visa drops to $240 on April 13, 2012. You can use a personal check. Read the guides on VJ. www.uscis.gov/i-129f From what I understand, the rate change applies to the K-1 visa application fee you pay at the embassy (previously $350), not the I-129F filing fee you pay to USCIS ($340). So, you will still need to send $340 with your petition, and a personal check is fine (better than a money order, because you can easily find out when it is cashed): that's what I used.	afoyoswa	Female	Uganda	2012-03-30 08:11:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	What are the chances for approval	Aaron's interview is going to be in Nairobi, which is a moderate-fraud embassy, and I plan to be there and think that it has the potential to make a difference. The sub-Saharan Africa forum will have more specifics about Ghana, but in Nairobi at least, the petitioner is not allowed into the interview area. Nonetheless, it should be fairly obvious to the CO that I am in town, as we will have new recent photos taken in Nairobi and he can of course tell the CO when asked when he last saw me.	afoyoswa	Female	Uganda	2012-04-05 14:44:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Wedding Planning	Yes, wait until you have the visa. You can definitely start scouting locations, picking out decor items, and whatever else doesn't involve a definite date or having people make travel plans, but picking a date or making any concrete plans is a bad idea and a great way to add even more stress to this already stressful process.	afoyoswa	Female	Uganda	2012-04-12 09:28:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	...less than 30 days in total	I haven't seen anything saying that 30 days is a hard and fast rule. The person who posted that is dealing with Nigeria, and it may be a firm guideline there, but shouldn't necessarily be applied to other locations. You're dealing with Ireland, so from what I have seen here, you have nothing to worry about. Edit: there is also a difference between the requirements for approval of the I-129F (one meeting within the last 2 years) and the factors that will lead to K-1 approval, especially at a difficult consulate like Lagos. While one short meeting is certainly sufficient for the I-129F, a difficult consulate would hesitate to approve (but of course not necessarily deny) the K-1 based on one short meeting. I think that is what the post you saw was referencing. Edited by afoyoswa, 13 April 2012 - 07:56 AM.	afoyoswa	Female	Uganda	2012-04-13 07:52:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	A few questions	We chose the K-1 approach because we wanted to do the waiting part of it before we got married, not after, and having some period of time elapse between deciding to get married and actually getting married seemed much more prudent. With the K-1, we got engaged, applied for the visa, and once it gets approved, we will have a wedding here in the US. With the CR-1, we would have either needed to marry immediately in his country after getting engaged, or get married on a future visit months later and then file for the CR-1 at that time, neither of which seemed like what we wanted to do. Of course, he is also in that vast group of people for whom casual travel to the US, regardless of the purpose of their trip or what they do or don't disclose at the POE, is difficult if not impossible, so marrying in the US without a K-1 visa was never an option the way it is for you.	afoyoswa	Female	Uganda	2012-04-25 08:14:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Trying To Understand The Process.	Does this also mean RFE's and so on or only denial/approval? From what people have said here: when an adjudicator takes out your file to look at it, the only 3 outcomes are approval, denial, or RFE, so yes, any of these would happen roughly around the VJ estimated date.	afoyoswa	Female	Uganda	2012-05-11 14:25:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Anything else we can do	What do you mean by "by courier"? There are 2 addresses for the Dallas Lockbox: a PO Box for USPS deliveries, and a street address for all other methods. FedEx, UPS, etc. cannot deliver to PO Box addresses, so you do have a problem if this is what you did.	afoyoswa	Female	Uganda	2012-05-12 06:39:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Organization of Evidence	I used my photos (printed several per page on cardstock) as section headers/dividers, labeled "Trip __: [dates]". Behind each section header/divider, I then included all of the evidence for that trip--itineraries, receipts, passport stamps, bus tickets, etc. (But still waiting to see if this went over well...)	afoyoswa	Female	Uganda	2012-05-14 08:26:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Initial K1 Packet	For an easy consulate (Australia), what you have sounds fine. The packets you saw photos of were probably not for easy consulates, but for difficult ones where including a lot of evidence with the initial petition packet can be a necessity.	afoyoswa	Female	Uganda	2012-06-18 07:56:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	What to do now :(?	Have you checked the USICS website to see if your packet has "touches" Touches means the person reviewing has some questions that either need someone else in their offices review or they need RFE. If none of these then call once you are at 160 days. Most for RP are taking 181 days start to interview. From what I have read here, "touches" usually mean none of these things, but can simply mean that your petition has physically been moved from one place to another. Most petitions never show any processing updates between acceptance and approval.	afoyoswa	Female	Uganda	2012-06-16 08:11:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	February filers getting excited...???	I'm getting excited but also very frustrated about the completely unpredictable activity level at VSC, and the massive slowdown there in the last 6 weeks. I don't mind waiting more (yes, I lie: I really, really mind) but it would be nice to see some steady progress. For the graphically minded, here is something I put together depicting approvals at VSC in the last 10 weeks (not updated for the 2nd approval yesterday). Very drastic difference between April (already falling behind: 5 a day average is keeping up, more or less) and May/June: May not be 100% accurate: I did this very quickly! Now that I'm looking at it, I don't think there were 4 each last Monday or Tuesday, for example. Edited by afoyoswa, 20 June 2012 - 10:25 AM.	afoyoswa	Female	Uganda	2012-06-20 10:23:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	K-1 Processing Times	hopefully someone will be able to help, my fiance in AZ filed for our K-1 Visa at the Texas Center in January but we have not heard anything back, I have read that we was meant to receive a receipt with a case number on it but we have had nothing back. I dont know if its because we sent it to the Texas Center or if we have done something wrong and they just havnt replied, hopefully someone can help us. You'll probably get more replies if you start your own thread, but yes, your fiance definitely should have received a notice (I-797) in the mail a few weeks after the petition was sent (along with an email and/or text message if he/she included the electronic notification form). Also, if the instructions were followed correctly, the petition should have been sent to the Dallas Lockbox (which is not the same thing as the Texas Service Center) which would then have forwarded it along to the California Service Center.	afoyoswa	Female	Uganda	2012-05-31 18:40:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Scheduled Wedding before receiving K1 Visa	From what I have read, there is far more potential for "fixing" this on the wedding/vendor side than on the immigration side. If it were possible to speed things up by making irrevocable wedding plans (or, with regard to another frequent inquiry, by getting pregnant) everyone (including me!) would be doing one or both of those things to cut down the wait. Good luck sorting this out!	afoyoswa	Female	Uganda	2012-05-15 11:24:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	church wedding	I would stay far, far away from anything that even remotely looks like a wedding. A very private meeting with a priest/clergyman and few friends & family? Fine. A large ceremony with a big crowd, special clothes, a reception, etc.? May raise suspicion, because for all intents and purposes it looks just like a wedding. Even if *you* know it's not a wedding, are you going to lecture all of your guests to be sure NEVER to refer to it as a wedding, either? What happens if some distant relative posts an album of photos on Facebook labeled "___ & ___'s wedding!!!" I plan on getting married first in a civil process here in the USA, and then two years later (she cannot leave US soil for that long unless you have an emergency visa), we will head to Bohol and get married by Church. Two years would be enough time for us to save for a very big beautiful wedding. Just a quick note: if she is entering the U.S. on a K-1 visa, this is not true. She can leave the U.S. freely as soon as she gets her green card, which will be within some months of applying for adjustment of status, which you will do after you marry within 90 days of her arrival. She can leave even sooner with an Advanced Parole card, but from what I've read that seems to a little riskier and is best reserved for an emergency.	afoyoswa	Female	Uganda	2012-07-26 08:31:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Delay Concerns ( K1 Visa )	So my fiance and I have received the NAO1 for the K1 Visa and we are expected to get the NOA2 in October. I have a few questions in regards to what the process will be like once she gets the NOA2. 1) It says we need police records of the previous countries she has lived in past 6 months. Can she start this process before we get the NAO2 since i hear this takes a long time What everyone else said, plus: I'm not sure if the requirements are different for the embassy you're going through, but you might want to double-check the details for the police certificate/clearance. In my recollection, the requirement is that the beneficiary present a police clearance for every country in which he/she has lived for a year or longer since age 16. I know someone, however, who was asked for records from a country lived in for only 6 months, so this can also be arbitrarily reinterpreted at the embassy. Also, I wouldn't plan too much based on your projected NOA2 (which will be sent to the USC, not the beneficiary) date at this point. Processing times speed up and slow down randomly based on the weather, holidays, the price of wheat in Africa, sunspot activity, and other factors, so expecting the NOA2 in a certain time frame is asking for a whole world of frustration. Settle in and enjoy the ride. <---says someone who is past her initial projected NOA2 date by several months, just past the USCIS average I-129F processing time, and really not enjoying the ride that much at all...	afoyoswa	Female	Uganda	2012-07-26 08:53:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Disturbed about info I received on K1 Visa	They have apparently stopped working on K1 visas in this office...unless they received like 10,000 of them on January 16. Other people have given you good information regarding the rest of your comments (especially the advice to fill in your timeline & join the February filers thread in the K-1 progress reports forum), but I wanted to comment on this in particular. If you go to Immigration Timelines (link on the blue bar at the top of the screen), and then click on "Igor's List" on the right, and then choose "Vermont Service Center" from the dropdown list, you'll see the last 15 VisaJourney member petitions that were approved at Vermont (VSC). (Here's a link: Igor's List) The earliest petition currently on the list is Jan. 20, so they most certainly have not stopped working on K-1 visas (more properly, I-129F petitions, since USCIS does not handle visas, only petitions). In the February filers thread, many people have sent me their receipt #s, and I have searched USCIS records to find a great many others which I have assembled into a spreadsheet and am checking regularly. I am currently monitoring 728 February VSC I-129F petitions, and of those, upwards of 30% have already been reviewed. 42 were approved or issued RFEs (request for additional evidence) yesterday and Thursday alone. So, in summary, progress is definitely being made now, unlike during most of June. I wouldn't rely overly much on the stock response at USCIS. Edited by afoyoswa, 11 August 2012 - 08:56 AM.	afoyoswa	Female	Uganda	2012-08-11 08:55:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	I-134 Questions	So, I am working on the I-134 in preparation for Aaron's interview, and I am wondering: 1) In the section that asks about visa petitions submitted (question #10), which date should I use as the date our petition was submitted: the date I sent it, the date VSC received it, or the date the NOA1 was issued? (Does it matter?) 2) For financial records, I have: --tax transcripts (the 4 most recent years) --printouts of my pay statements from the online program my company uses for payroll: we do not receive paper checks (biweekly statements, as far back as necessary) --printouts of my tax returns generated by the online tax preparation program I used (as far back as necessary) --W-2s (as far back as necessary) How many of each of these do I need to supply? 3) On the I-134, I reported my income from the job that I list in question #7, which is plenty to exceed the poverty guidelines for a household size consisting of my fiance and me. However, my W-2s and tax transcripts show multiple other sources of income (some of which I still have). Should the figure in question #7 be my total income (which varies a lot), or is it okay to list my income from my primary, permanent job only?	afoyoswa	Female	Uganda	2012-08-13 09:03:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	MNL CASE NUMBER	Just made my first NVC call, and no petition yet. I was really surprised that someone answered right away! I thought I'd be on hold for a long time and would have plenty of time to get all the relevant details ready, so I had to do some scrambling to find stuff. No record of my USCIS receipt #, but it hasn't been quite a week yet.	afoyoswa	Female	Uganda	2012-08-14 09:06:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	is my fiance a fraud?	Can somebody explain if not 2 years since they met persoanlly, how they aproved that peticion? is only 1 and half years, an i supossed that they start the process, was less. thanks. The requirement is that you've seen each other in person within the last 2 years, not that you have known each other for 2 years.	afoyoswa	Female	Uganda	2012-08-24 08:43:00