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K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresImportant Advice for NEW K1 Filers
QUOTE (Otto und Karin @ Jun 20 2009, 05:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The advice should really be something like:

If you haven't met in person (within the last two years) you're going to have an uphill battle to get a waiver approved. If you feel you will qualify under either religious or cultural reasons, you will have the burden of documenting this.

or

If you do not want to go through the burden of the waiver - figure out a way to get married and THEN file for a spousal visa.

In my opinion...



Exactly good.gif Not to mention that the OP didn't provide with any viable solution but whined as a result of his own negligence.
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Kinito_2k3MaleFrance2009-06-20 18:28:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresg-325a question
QUOTE (msqm @ Jun 22 2009, 03:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (gf97 @ Jun 21 2009, 09:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i think you should put the address on your cards.. thats my opinion.. what address is on your tax forms - w2s-when you get your tax forms??
Either way, i think you should put your local address.


W2s use the corporate address.
I am leaning towards the local address too, but thought I check.



The address that's on you work contract is the address of your employer. good.gif
Kinito_2k3MaleFrance2009-06-21 21:54:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresWould you let him take a crap on you?
QUOTE (SCFsnoopy @ May 29 2009, 10:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Kinito_2k3 @ May 30 2009, 08:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Fair enough but she is not on a VWP - The aim is not to point the "no you're wrong" but to provide with experience and as accurate as possible advice.

That said, he she goes to Canada and manage to re-enter on a VWP visa then she will have 90 days - whether she will be able to enter on VWP visa or not is a different question smile.gif


Haha, ok - that I can agree with smile.gif

As much as possible I want to try and stop people from having to go through the drama of a difficult entry - I have been through that process and although I was eventually let in, it's extremely emotional and unpleasant. I still feel I only got in because I was prepared for the worst - if people had told me "you'll get in no worries, you haven't done anything wrong" and had given me some scenario that may work in theory but not practice - I would have wasted over $2000 and 3 months with my fiance. It's a heavy price to pay so I tend to advise on worst-case-scenarios and have some sort of evidence to back me up.

Anyhow, the whole point is sort of moot since the OP is going home smile.gif



True smile.gif I also take this wise approach - so there is no disappointment if the worst happens!
Kinito_2k3MaleFrance2009-05-29 18:04:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresWould you let him take a crap on you?
QUOTE (SCFsnoopy @ May 29 2009, 10:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I will admit that I don't know the specifics on if she can enter on the K-1, go to Canada, then reenter on a fresh 90 day VWP (however I wouldn't like her chances of being allowed back in without a lot of scrutiny). However, if she enters on a VWP going to Canada or Mexico will NOT refresh the 90 days when she wants to reenter the US.


Fair enough but she is not on a VWP - The aim is not to point the "no you're wrong" but to provide with experience and as accurate as possible advice.

That said, he she goes to Canada and manage to re-enter on a VWP visa then she will have 90 days - whether she will be able to enter on VWP visa or not is a different question smile.gif

Edited by Kinito_2k3, 29 May 2009 - 05:14 PM.

Kinito_2k3MaleFrance2009-05-29 17:13:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresWould you let him take a crap on you?
QUOTE (SCFsnoopy @ May 29 2009, 04:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (uscandual @ May 29 2009, 11:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (jegcs @ May 28 2009, 05:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is there anyway for me to stay in the states "Legally" without having to marry him?What processes would there be? If none, I am more than happy to go home and restart a life and hopefully get my job back.


Not to deny anything that has been said by others so far, which is all essentially correct information.

I did just think it worth pointing out one fact that may be of relevance here.

JimVaPhuong put it very aptly that your legal status in the US is under your I-94, valid for 90 days from entry. And that you must leave when those 90 days are up.
However, the requirement from the US perspective is that you leave the United States. Not necessarily that you "go home". There may be a difference,
and it may be relevant to you.

The flag on your profile is Australia. I don't know if that's "home" for you, but on the likely assumption that it is, and you are an Australian citizen, then you can leave the United States by going to another country rather than returning immediately to Australia. For example, you could travel to Canada, thereby legally complying with the need to exit the US within 90 days. Bearing an Australian passport, Canada should admit you legally as a tourist. After spending some time there (as little or as long as you like, subject to your Canadian admission - potentially a day or two , even an hour would suffice, or more), you could then legally re-enter the United States as a tourist on your Australian passport. You don't require a visa to do this.

Does this buy you anything? Perhaps, perhaps not.

You wrote that you want to "stay in the states". If you mean permanently - then no, this won't help.
However, if you mean "temporarily", like to take care of some unfinished tasks, or other reasons, then you could potentially do this legally as a way to extend your stay in the US a bit longer. Your US re-entry would be on a VWP (as an Australian) and likely valid for an additional 90 days. You cannot work during that time, but you would be in the country legally.

Good luck.


That doesn't work. You can't go to an adjacent country/state/territory and reenter the US with a fresh 90 days - it will still count down the original 90 days. She'd have to leave the continent entirely, pretty much.


blink.gif Why can't you? What are the supporting legal arguments for what you are saying? Since when a "continent" is a legal well delimited entity??

I am very dubious smile.gif but I might be wrong... anybody able to confirm or refute?


Thanks


Kinito_2k3MaleFrance2009-05-29 08:05:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresWedding Arrangements
QUOTE (Jonara @ Aug 5 2009, 01:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Has it ever been an issue when K-1ers simply plan a civil wedding? In lieu of the economy and because we're somewhat not the drink all you can partying kind, my fiance and I wanted to have an intimate and quick ceremony, no church and no big reception, dance the night away type of thingie. That's the reason I'm kicking back and relaxing and not worrying about any wedding details. I mean how much can you really plan within 90 days? Now out of paranoia, I wonder if COs will find that questionable or what. Has anyone been questioned for this?



No that's what I did, no worries. How could they oblige you to spend a lot if you didn't have any money? Marriage is a marriage. Period. Whether it's a $300.000,00 or $1,00 is none of their business smile.gif whistling.gif
Kinito_2k3MaleFrance2009-08-04 19:33:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresyour document I129F, PETITION FOR FIANCE(E) was processed and mailed to the address on record
QUOTE (Jonara @ Aug 10 2009, 07:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think it's a timing issue. By the time USCIS responded to their petition, the relationship has ended. She might have gotten their notification and wonder why it's still in the works. The petitioner should either withdraw that or just ignore it...it will be closed eventually due to lack of action.

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Kinito_2k3MaleFrance2009-08-10 20:28:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresWrinkle in the marriage law? Please explain.
QUOTE (Carol and Bruno @ Aug 12 2009, 11:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (thepizzadude @ Aug 12 2009, 12:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (NewYorkSydney @ Aug 11 2009, 11:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I am in the same boat and it really bothers me that after having the civil ceremony in the US we are required to wait till the AP document clears and then fly out to my home country to have a religious ceremony here with my family and friends. I want to follow the correct process and wait but it still bothers me as you still cant plan things properly

I just dont understand this requirement of having to be married in the US. does anyone know why you must be married in the US? I mean what does it matter to them where you actually get married?


They don't really care where you get married, that's why they have different types of visas. A fiance(e) visa is for a FIANCE(E) not a spouse. What is so hard to understand about that. If you want to be married in another country then do so and then file for one of the SPOUSE visas.



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Yes but this is just not the original point - the question was whether or not it is forbidden/illegal to perform a religious non-binding ceremony abroad before getting married "by law" in the US - the answer is no, it's not forbidden/illegal and the OP has now sufficient information to weigh his options/risks and take an appropriate decision.
Kinito_2k3MaleFrance2009-08-12 18:03:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresWrinkle in the marriage law? Please explain.
QUOTE (*Len* @ Aug 12 2009, 09:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Minya's wife @ Aug 11 2009, 06:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
In Peru, if a couple only gets married in church, and does not follow through with marrying in a civil ceremony, are they still considered legally married? If the church ceremony is considered a legal marriage, then it would not be an option for you to do before the K-1 visa interview, and before you fiancee is issued the visa. Many in your situation have used he K-1, came to the states married and then planned a larger church ceremony for the family 'back home' at a later date. It is the more sure route, IMO.



WORD. Also to consider is that most churches will not allow you to get "married" without the civil marriage being performed first. In Mexico, it is against the law to do so.



That's a very good point - it's the same in France. I would check that first! good.gif
Kinito_2k3MaleFrance2009-08-12 16:14:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresWaiting to get married
QUOTE (Gary and Alla @ Aug 10 2009, 05:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (smh5636 @ Aug 9 2009, 11:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks for the reply - when i said religious ceremony, i meant that a rabbi who can legally marry us in the state of new york will perform the ceremony. It would still be legal for new york state.

It sounds like we can wait until then and just have all the paperwork ready to go the day after the wedding!

Does anyone have any recommendations for health insurance for my fiance in the meantime?


No problems with a religious ceremony as long as you get a marriage lisence and the officiant (rabbi) is authorized by the state, I imagine he is.

The very best insurance for your fiancee, if she can get it, would be an international coverage rider on her country's national health plan. Not all countries offer this, but check this first. After that an individual policy can be priced but they tend to be WAY expensive.



About the Health Insurance - I was in the same position - I am the French Alien here - Your fiance will have no problem finding an insurance company in France that issues universal coverage - mine was provided by "April Mobilité" part of the AXA insurance group - and my premium rounded up at 85 euros a month is I remember well. WAY cheaper than even my wife's company healthcare plan - and better coverage too...
Kinito_2k3MaleFrance2009-08-10 11:29:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresnot consolidated marriage under US law
QUOTE (alibabaa @ Aug 21 2009, 05:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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The war in Darfur would probably qualify as grounds for a hardship waiver of the 2 year meeting requirement.


Yes you absolutely right if this man from Darfur or near by and don’t tell me you from Khartoum and you like to stick Darfur to it is not going to work and I do think this man is big bs and if his laying the embassy will fiend out and I hope his right wacko.gif



I am having a hard time understanding what you are saying, can you clarify please? The I-129F is approved, he is trying to get input for his fiance to be able to succeed in the interview at the embassy - I am pretty sure that you're case is not isolated, they must be used to it? Hope everything will go right!
Kinito_2k3MaleFrance2009-08-21 11:31:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresG-325A question on formating dates.
QUOTE (skyhigh195 @ Sep 4 2009, 06:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
yea my bad. I reread the question and it did seem a bit misleading both parents were not born in 1954, the primary issue was two digits instead of four. ie 54 rather than 1954



Alright I got that, don't thingk it's gonna be a problem - however my other comment is that the date 15/12/54 is invalid per american standards - there is only 12 months in a year. The second one will be interpreted as 12 July 1956 instead of 07 December 1956 - which one is correct??

the date format here as you said is MM/DD/YYYY, be careful about months and days perticularly.
Kinito_2k3MaleFrance2009-09-04 13:19:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresG-325A question on formating dates.
QUOTE (skyhigh195 @ Sep 4 2009, 06:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just received the necessary documents from my girlfriend recently and on her G-325 A under the birth date for her parents she has "15/12/54" and "07/12/56" when the document reads "Date of Birth mm/dd/yyyy" Has anyone ever been rejected for writing it this way. I mean I tried to type it in on my G-325 and it does not even fit. Plus when they look at her birth date is in 1985 what other day could her parents be born is not 1954. I'm looking for any advice but more specifically if someone has turned in the document like this, or been rejected for doing so. Thanks.


Well for the years it's not gonna cause any arm, but I think that you guys are gonna end up having and "invalid date" for the first date and "12 July 1956" (instead of a 7 December 1956 if I understand you correctly) for the second date! Which is going to cause issues later on in the process when checking against her birth certificate with filiation (for identification and so on...) - to me it's a big risk for a RFE and a resubmission of the forms OR a rejection of the case.

Any other thoughts?

Edited by Kinito_2k3, 04 September 2009 - 12:44 PM.

Kinito_2k3MaleFrance2009-09-04 12:43:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresRe-entering to US after visa K1 without mariage?
QUOTE (Sher&Alex @ Aug 11 2009, 11:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hello everybody,

I got visa K1 in july 2009 and got US the 17 July. I came back to my country 10 August and I hear I cannot to re-enter in the US now? That is true? My fiance and I didn't apply for marriage yet. I guess it's not possible after mariage until get the Greencard?

Thank you for your help


Indeed you cannot re-enter the USA on your K1 visa once you've used it. As soon as you enter the US land on a K1, the Visa expires immediately and is replaced by the I-94 that you had in your passport. When you left, your carrier took the I-94 out of the passport sad.gif Since your K1 is a single entry visa, you cannot re-enter the US using it. You should have remained in the country until issuance of your Green Card or issuance of your advance parole document.

The only choice that I see now for you to go back to the US, marry and adjust in the legal path is to refile an I-129F and go through the whole process again wacko.gif

Hope this helps!


Kinito_2k3MaleFrance2009-08-11 17:51:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSee the Pics & Please Post
QUOTE (Anh map @ Aug 28 2009, 02:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
UPS, FedEx, DHL



Isn't DHL out of business? At least in the US?
Kinito_2k3MaleFrance2009-08-28 13:52:00
Europe & Eurasia (except the UK and Russia)2 Weddings? One in the US and one in France
QUOTE (Lili @ Apr 8 2009, 02:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Pam&Josh @ Apr 6 2009, 09:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi Sebastien,

To make your wedding recognize by France, you need to check your French Consulat.
The only thing who can make things slower is that you didn't do the "publication des bans" at your French Consulat (according to what you're saying), but it doesn't mean you cannot make it recognize by France. It might result in having you coming to your Consulat for an interview...even if I never heard anybody who had to go.
Here is the link of the French Consulat in Chicago, it might help you out, but you need to send your papers in the Consulat of your area: http://www.consulfra....php?article318.
Hope it will help you out! wink.gif
Good luck


Was exactly in the same situation. I e-mailed asking if I needed to get married again in France and they told me "don't do that or you will be considered polygamist to the same man and will need to get the second marriage annulled".
I didn't do the publication des bans and it took 4 months for the consulate of san francisco to recognize the wedding and issue the livret de famille. Depending on where you live, the process might be faster.


Et bien merci a vous tous pour ces informations, je vais donc contacter mon consulat...

Joyeuse Paques a tous!
Kinito_2k3MaleFrance2009-04-12 12:56:00
Europe & Eurasia (except the UK and Russia)2 Weddings? One in the US and one in France
Hi there,

I am a K1 visa holder and just filed for AOS. My wife and I got married 2 weeks ago and we did not prepare the paperwork for our marriage to be recognized in France. So, I know I can do it now if I want but it seems to be a BIG pain in the a**. Is there any French/American couple here that got married twice?? (civil marriage)? Can you share your experience?

Thanks!

Sebastien
Kinito_2k3MaleFrance2009-04-05 13:54:00
Europe & Eurasia (except the UK and Russia)LIVRET DE FAMILLE
Ca doit dependre du county alors, parce que moi pour $10 j'ai eu le bon document, c'est peut etre le seul qu'ils donnent. Bonne chance!
Kinito_2k3MaleFrance2009-06-04 15:43:00
Europe & Eurasia (except the UK and Russia)LIVRET DE FAMILLE
Oui exactement, tu l'obtiens aupres du county dans lequel vous vous etes maries smile.gif Et en plus ils vont se faire un plaisir de vous alleger de qq dollars (nous c'etait $10 par copie...).
Kinito_2k3MaleFrance2009-06-04 06:28:00
Europe & Eurasia (except the UK and Russia)LIVRET DE FAMILLE
euuuuhhh non sad.gif Nous on a envoye le "Certificate of Marriage" que l'on a utilise pour mon AOS...mais ca ne fait que 3 semaines alors peut etre qu'ils vont me demander la meme chose...ca fait combien de temps vous? Voila qq infos:


"Upon request in writing, the man or woman can request a so-called extended version, which contains additional facts such as parents' and marriage officiant's name, place of ceremony, etc."


Notre certificat de mariage contient ces informations mais nous n'avons pas fait de requete speciale...le votre les contient aussi??

Edited by Kinito_2k3, 01 June 2009 - 05:16 PM.

Kinito_2k3MaleFrance2009-06-01 17:13:00
Europe & Eurasia (except the UK and Russia)LIVRET DE FAMILLE
QUOTE (Moonskin @ Jun 1 2009, 10:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I havent been hearing from the consulate in New-York yet, thought they should have had our package with the required documents to register our marriage one week ago. I know it is gonna take time to get the Livret De Famille (woman on the phone had told me abt 5 months) but all I wonder right now is if they got our package so I am hoping to get some news. Should I mail them ?



Well, was your package delivered? You sent it with delivery confirmation right?
Kinito_2k3MaleFrance2009-06-01 16:06:00
Europe & Eurasia (except the UK and Russia)LIVRET DE FAMILLE
QUOTE (Nyte @ May 31 2009, 11:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Moonskin @ May 30 2009, 05:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Kinito_2k3 @ May 29 2009, 09:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (keweul @ Mar 4 2009, 03:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks, I did email them and they said it was an error on their part (they somehow "forgot" to put them in it). They're going to redo it and send me a new one...I was thinking that seemed odd that the kids weren't in it but thought it was something new they were doing...Good thing I caught it LOL...



Hi there,

just being curious. How long did it take you to receive the livret de famille??

Thanks

Seb

Same question tongue.gif

@ keweul : You're not far from our location, Eastampton here ^^



My wife and I got ours from the consulate in Houston in about 3 months.



Response from the Consulate in Atlanta:

"Bonjour,

Votre demande a été réceptionné le 11 mai 2009. Les demandes sont traitées par ordre d'arrivée.
Il faut compter en moyenne 4 semaines, ce chiffre peut varié en fonction des obligations de ce poste.

Cordialement,

Kinito_2k3MaleFrance2009-06-01 08:00:00
Europe & Eurasia (except the UK and Russia)LIVRET DE FAMILLE
QUOTE (keweul @ Mar 4 2009, 03:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks, I did email them and they said it was an error on their part (they somehow "forgot" to put them in it). They're going to redo it and send me a new one...I was thinking that seemed odd that the kids weren't in it but thought it was something new they were doing...Good thing I caught it LOL...



Hi there,

just being curious. How long did it take you to receive the livret de famille??

Thanks

Seb
Kinito_2k3MaleFrance2009-05-29 14:17:00
Europe & Eurasia (except the UK and Russia)French Immigration vs. U.S. Immigration
QUOTE (EasternDE @ Aug 25 2009, 11:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Kinito_2k3 @ Aug 26 2009, 01:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, I have mixed feeling here from what I read. My wife and I lived in Paris before moving here and she got her "carte de sejour" (resident card) in about 8 weeks - her job got it for her.



Sounds she could have been an expatriated worker for a big corporation?
That's very different.



Agreed - She wasn't an expat but was on a "short term assignment". My point was that by making yourself needed by a big company in France then they would sponsor you. Are you able to make yourself needed when you don't speak french if you are not already an employee, I don't think so smile.gif haha - ok Iam loopsided smile.gif
Kinito_2k3MaleFrance2009-08-27 20:52:00
Europe & Eurasia (except the UK and Russia)French Immigration vs. U.S. Immigration
Well, I have mixed feeling here from what I read. My wife and I lived in Paris before moving here and she got her "carte de sejour" (resident card) in about 8 weeks - her job got it for her.
Kinito_2k3MaleFrance2009-08-25 18:53:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionItalian Police Record... Need help
QUOTE (Aloha @ May 20 2009, 01:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thank you very much for all your answers! I will try without it and cross my fingers smile.gif wish things were less complicated sometimes, but I guess we wouldn't appreciate the fruit of the work this much!

Thanks again and if anyone has experience with the embassy in Paris and would care to share, don't hesitate!!


Hello,

I am not sure about what I am about to say but I think it's right...I thought that International Laws forbid people to having more than two citizenships. In this case, which ones do you hold? Are you sure you carried forward your Brazilian one (dual citizenship was apparently lost for those claiming a different citizenship before 1994...when did you claim you Italian citizenship?)? You don't lose it forever though,it's "on hold" and you can ask for reinstatement smile.gif

I would ask for my Italian police record to be safe, it seems to be pretty straightforward, and if it;s like in france you'll get it within a week for free smile.gif

here is more info : http://www.crb.gov.u....aspx?page=2534

Hope this helps

Kinito_2k3MaleFrance2009-05-26 16:01:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionItalian Police Record... Need help
QUOTE (Aloha @ May 20 2009, 01:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thank you very much for all your answers! I will try without it and cross my fingers smile.gif wish things were less complicated sometimes, but I guess we wouldn't appreciate the fruit of the work this much!

Thanks again and if anyone has experience with the embassy in Paris and would care to share, don't hesitate!!


Hello,

I am not sure about what I am about to say but I think it's right...I thought that International Laws forbid people to having more than two citizenships. In this case, which one do you hold? Are you sure you carried forward your Brazilian one? I know for fact that some countries in South America do not allow dual citizenship (bolivia for example). You should get that situated though as I can see that being an issue in the future.
Kinito_2k3MaleFrance2009-05-26 15:52:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionHow can i get a copy of some paper from my file in the embassy
QUOTE (Bocajr27 @ Aug 13 2009, 12:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I gave them in the interview, but now they request one more step and we need some paper they have in my file in the embassy.

Please let me know what I have to do???? Thank crying.gif



What papers are you talking about? That is the reason why it's strongly advised to make 2 copies of all original submissions, so that you don't end up in such a situation. whistling.gif
Kinito_2k3MaleFrance2009-08-12 18:08:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionNaturalization: benefits and limitations
QUOTE (Italian_in_NYC @ Aug 20 2009, 01:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Kinito_2k3 @ Aug 20 2009, 09:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Italian_in_NYC @ Aug 20 2009, 01:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't understand the problem.
First of all, even after I naturalize, I will always be an Italian and proud to be one. Being a USC is just another immigration (the ultimate one) status.
Where am I from? I always say from Milan and people were never discriminatory.
Nobody should be ashamed of their origin and even if we are citizen, we are always from somewhere else.



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Actually, saying I was an Italian always was a plus while I was single, if you know what I mean smile.gif
My wife, who came here at age 9 and is white with absolutely no foreign accent, still says she's Russian!


I completely get what you mean smile.gif I think that our respective nationalities are actually good ones to have haha for many reasons smile.gif

Kinito_2k3MaleFrance2009-08-20 08:47:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionNaturalization: benefits and limitations
QUOTE (Italian_in_NYC @ Aug 20 2009, 01:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't understand the problem.
First of all, even after I naturalize, I will always be an Italian and proud to be one. Being a USC is just another immigration (the ultimate one) status.
Where am I from? I always say from Milan and people were never discriminatory.
Nobody should be ashamed of their origin and even if we are citizen, we are always from somewhere else.



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Kinito_2k3MaleFrance2009-08-20 08:37:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionNaturalization: benefits and limitations
QUOTE (onuche @ Aug 19 2009, 07:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (alexander2j @ Aug 19 2009, 07:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I got married 3 years after coming to the U.S. My wife is American, and that's what I used to tell everyone who would ask me “where’s is your wife from?” One day a coworker told me that it doesn’t make sense to say that. The right thing to say would be “she’s a white girl from Missouri”

In another conversation I said this to a white coworker, we were talking about race:

Well it doesn’t make sense to say that someone is American, it goes further than that. You have to say if you are white, black , hispanic etc. To which he replied: “Well I’m an American” Then I said: what if I become an American?

Another coworker (not from the U.S) asked HOW THE HELL ARE YOU GONNA DO THAT?. My answer: I’ll get naturalized in a few months! They said: you’ll still be from you country, a U.S citizen, but not really an American.

I ended the conversation saying: well at least my kids will be Americans!

I’m proud of where I am, I don’t have a problem with that. Somehow I thought that getting naturalized would make me an American, but this is not 100% true. My grandfather was from Spain, and he was naturalized in my country, but “he was always from Spain”.



Its all so funny and confusing at the same time, when you get naturalized you become a "Citizen", Citizen of where? America ofcourse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. Now whats the difference between an "American" and an "American Citizen", on paper, absolutely no difference.

But in our everyday lives we know thats not the case, we now talk of natural born Americans, Naturalized Americans and all kinds of definitions of Americans, which, under the constitution all have the same rights and priviledges (except if you want to go into politics ofcourse and thats for the presidency).



I think that it's a good point. I will always be French even if I become a US citizen - I believe that being "American" or "French" or "Irish" or "National X" is far more complex than having a legal status - there is a notion being part of a social group, embracing norms, identify to a particular culture.

In addition, in my mind one should be proud from his background - I don't think that I will ever forget to mention my origins, that's because I will be naturalized.

My point is that the citizenship is a condition for being an American, but is far from being sufficiant smile.gif

Do I make sense? blink.gif haha
Kinito_2k3MaleFrance2009-08-20 07:34:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionFiling for a divorce
QUOTE (hchhon @ Aug 30 2009, 07:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Kinito_2k3 @ Aug 30 2009, 02:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (hchhon @ Aug 30 2009, 06:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi,

My wife (the immigrant) is giving me a hard time and I want to end the marriage. We have one child.
She has her 10-year green card and not a US citizen yet. We don't have any house or property just a simple join checking account. I just want a simple divorce. I want to keep my son with me and divorce her.
What is the best way to do this if she decides for a divorce? Thanks!



You are saying that you want to end the mariage and then you say that wondering if SHE decides for a divorce? What's the scenario ?



We don't seem to get along anymore.



No I understand that, and I am sorry for you! I was just trying to understand because you first say that you want to end the marriage and then a few lines later you say the she might want to end the marriage - you'd probably get different answers depending on which case is yours?
Kinito_2k3MaleFrance2009-08-30 13:35:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionFiling for a divorce
QUOTE (hchhon @ Aug 30 2009, 06:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi,

My wife (the immigrant) is giving me a hard time and I want to end the marriage. We have one child.
She has her 10-year green card and not a US citizen yet. We don't have any house or property just a simple join checking account. I just want a simple divorce. I want to keep my son with me and divorce her.
What is the best way to do this if she decides for a divorce? Thanks!



You are saying that you want to end the mariage and then you say that wondering if SHE decides for a divorce? What's the scenario ?
Kinito_2k3MaleFrance2009-08-30 13:14:00
US Citizenship General Discussionquestions about eligibility and approval
QUOTE (myfakeID @ Sep 5 2009, 03:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't want to fill in my timeline because I already did in my usual account - I figuring filling one in would make things inaccurate since I'd be doubly represented, and I'll make sure not to ask questions without providing any information necessary for answering them.

This is my account for asking questions without anyone knowing who I am...

Anyway, I was wondering about certain things in relation to naturalization. I read through the information provided, but still have some questions - didn't see these things addressed anywhere.

1 - Does the GC holder need a valid passport to apply for and/or be granted citizenship?

2 - Does the GC holder need to be employed? If the USC has a job or some kind of income, is that ok? Or does the GC holder need to show past and/or current U.S. employment at the time of applying or after applying/before the oath? I figure maybe the government might be hesitant to grant citizenship to someone who doesn't have a solid work history.

Sorry for the secrecy.


Not sure why you have to hide your identity to ask those questions, anyway. here is what you need guides6ly.gif


http://www.visajourn...alization_guide

Kinito_2k3MaleFrance2009-09-05 11:04:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionMy husband is no longer married to an alien
QUOTE (JulietteDumont @ Aug 26 2009, 11:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Congrats ! I have a question, even if the citizenship stuff won't be for me before 3 years. Can I apply to become an american citizen and keep my french citizenship ? I heard that I would have to choose and even if I would love to be American there is no way I give up my french citizenship. Thanks smile.gif



No you can keep both - technically when you take the oath you kinda swear to forget any previous citizenship I think, but in reality the US never make you abandon your former citizenship - and since France accepts dual citizen with the US - we are good to go smile.gif

Am I wrong? Any French in this situation?
Kinito_2k3MaleFrance2009-08-26 19:29:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionLose German Citizenship

No law needed. All it takes is one, a single one President of the United States who at some point says . . . "listen guys, I know you already pledged your allegiance to the United States. You swore off any and all loyalty to your former country or countries of citizenship, now I feel it's time you show that you took this oath in good faith. The U.S. government requires all naturalized U.S. citizens to prove within 1 year's time that they have lost or renounced their former citizenship or citizenships. Those who cannot comply with this requirement, will face de-naturalization. Thank you."



What a bunch of BS, has there been any studies showing that the "good American" is the naturalized that considers himself American only? Please, give us a break, this country is a pure product of immigration...what are you afraid of?
Kinito_2k3MaleFrance2012-02-23 21:48:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionTransferred to NBC??
Hello,


I just received that my N-400 application was routed to NBC? Is this Normal? Should I be concerned about anything, or happy about it??
Kinito_2k3MaleFrance2012-12-20 20:45:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionPre-Interview File Review

Is the DL the only additional document they requested? If so, I think it is just a standard letter because many people on VJ have received them. As stated above, some offices send them out and some do not. Good luck on your interview!



Great, thanks!
Kinito_2k3MaleFrance2013-02-01 10:11:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionPre-Interview File Review

With marriage, we elected to send in copies of both our driver's licenses as additional proof we are living together. Sent that same letter to my stepdaughter, single and for the five year. Could only wonder why they wanted that because its a secondary source of ID, with her, she would have never received a driver's license until she showed the DMV her valid green card.

But ours is not to question, either do or die.

When she first came here, managed to get her a state ID with her EAD card, she liked that, was like another US citizen type of ID card. We needed that for domestic airline travel. That's all we needed, plus the ticket of course.



Not sure I understand your point NickD. I do not think that DLs are any proofs of people living together IMO. Wife thinks that if for them to make sure that I have at least 2 proofs of ID (with the GC), in case I didn't remember to take my passport with me.

Thought I would ask others to confirm her thoughts.
Kinito_2k3MaleFrance2013-02-01 09:12:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionPre-Interview File Review
Hello all,

I am scheduled for my interview on 2/26/13 and I received a yellow piece of paper yesterday stating that based on based on the complete review of my file, USCIS has identified additional documentation to bring to the interview that may be needed. USCIS recommends that I bring my Driver's license to the interview or a state issued identification card.

I am not too worried about this, but is this normal? What does the yellow paper mean?

Thank you :)
Kinito_2k3MaleFrance2013-02-01 07:41:00