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K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresPrevious Marrages / Age Diffrence
Try to go over all the lists of questions you can find. Make sure you know everything. Sometimes there can be very basic questions you never think to learn. Miss a couple of questions and you will end up with a 221-G.

Kathy, your timeline says your file has been sent back to NVC. That is a bummer. Were you able to anwer all the questions or what happened with yours?
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-03-03 22:34:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresPrevious Marrages / Age Diffrence
They are not allowed to deny anyone over age differnce. They do try a little harder to make sure the relationship is real so expect a tougher interview and make sure all your i's are dotted and your t's crossed as far as knowing about each other.

By the way, our age difference is well beyond yours.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-03-03 19:03:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresNVC----No Record of receiving
Well I just called an my case is also in Washington for Administative reveiw. Damnnnnn. Well I am almost at 6 weeks since my noa2 I sure hope it does not drag on forever.

Well gonna go see if I can find some threads where others have gone through it. It would be sort of interesting to see what common things those who get administrative review have. I am wondering if it might be because it is my fiancee's 2nd K-1 (not for the same applicant) She stayed 30 days on the first.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-03-06 22:23:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresNVC----No Record of receiving
Thanks for the help and ideas on this. I will call tonight and hope they can give me some good news or at least don't give me bad news.

Edited by Turboguy, 06 March 2007 - 04:48 PM.

TurboguyMaleRussia2007-03-06 16:47:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresNVC----No Record of receiving
I agree, I have been watching this thread every 20 minutes hoping for an answer.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-03-06 14:25:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresNVC----No Record of receiving
It might be worth just posting the info. I have been at NVC for 6 weeks now and heard nothing. I too am trying to figure out my options for getting some information.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-03-06 09:28:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresUSCIS Case Status
Ah, that was a great help ELW Mine seems to have fallen behind a filing cabinet or something and after nearly 40 days of waiting I was trying to figure out what I needed to do to check on it at NVC. You are a life saver.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-03-03 19:00:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresBlue Slip
The person reviewing the file will likely not be the one who did the interview. If all it asked for is the tax return for the person who co-sponsored you then that is likely the main thing they would need and it is something they would need and if it was not included at the time of the interview would cause a 221-G. If it were me, I would send a copy of the tax return, a statement by you that you were a student and an explaination of why you had a co-sponser even though your income was sufficient and I think with any luck you will have your visa very quickly. I think you will be fine.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-03-09 07:43:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresBlue Slip
Those 221-G's are a real disappointment when we have our hopes so high. You have my sympathies. Are they questioning your income or just the fact that you did not work? You have lots of time if you want an origional document but it sounds to me that they are just looking for an explaination which you could e-mail or fax. You have some time before it converts into a denial. Good Luck.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-03-09 00:13:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresOnly 4 days of meeting physically!
One thing you might want to keep in mind is that at the interview it will be necessary to prove a relationship. Phone bills are one of the things they use for that purpose and real bills will have more credibility than phone cards but phone cards do have some value.

There have been lots of K-1's issued on a meeting of 5 days so you are not in uncharted waters.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-03-08 21:10:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresShould I use an Immigratio Lawyer?
This is interesting. This is about the 100th time I have read a similar question and the first time I have seen the respondants lean far more (or more at all) to using a lawyer.

A few comments that I would like to make. All the lawyers good and bad advertise a 100% success rate. They don't talk about the problems that go on in between.

A lawyer will slow down the process over doing it yourself if you are careful. It adds one more link to the chain. In other words instead of sending the information to the visa center you send it to the lawyer where it lays on his desk till he gets to it then he sends it in. You can't add links without making the chain longer.

Contrary to some of the advice above I have never heard of a consulate that will allow the lawyer to attend the interview.

Lawyers seem to do so many of these that they get sloppy. Doing our own we worry so much that we do it right more often.

You have less communication and are more in the dark. The communication about your case goes to the lawyer. Without a lawyer you have much more of a feel for what is happening.

I have heard some real horror stories about using lawyers. If you go that way be sure you have a good one.

On my first K-1 I had a friend go through a lawyer and apply the same day. I gained 3 weeks on him between the application and the Embassy. We both used Vermont.

If you don't have complications and are even a bit careful you don't need a lawyer. If it makes you feel better and you are not in a hurry then it is nice to not have to fool with it as much. You have to come up with the same info one way or the other.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-03-04 10:26:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedureshelp please!!!!
Lately I have seen a lot of cases go into Administrative Review after they were supposed to be complete. I hope this is not what has happened to you. Have you contacted them to see what the status is?
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-03-10 13:02:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures2 week since NOA2 from CSC and still no record at NVC
I have seen a few go through Vermont in 3-4 days. I have seen a few go through NVC in as little as two days. It would be a real shocker for someone to combine a quick trip through VT and a quick trip through NVC. You would almost have your interview date while the stamp was still wet on the NOA-1.

Actually I am getting to watch a lot of people go through as I sit in limbo. I would suggest if you don't get a notice from NVC within about 3 weeks to start calling and press option 5 to talk to a real person. Worst case scenario is what happened to me. The decided to send mine for Administrative Review from NVC which is basically a big black hole you fall into with no idea how long you will be there and no way to get real information. The all time record I have heard of for A/R is 8 years. Mine is at two months and climbing. One other VJ'r is at 9 months and climbing. Hopefully yours is on the way to the embassy and they are just slow on the notice.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-03-15 08:38:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresCan gov. officials speed up the waiting time?
I contacted mine on my first K-1 but only when I had problems. I plan to contact him on this one again next Wednesday but only because I again have problems. I have a feeling if too many who don't have problems contacted them and asked for help it would make it much more difficult for those who really do have problems. It did seem to help the first time.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-03-16 06:57:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresTranslation
If I recall correctly it does exclude him. Actaully he could do someone elses but not his own. They do not allow the translation to be done by the petitioner or the benificiary but any other person who will state they are proficient is ok.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-03-15 20:44:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresValid Relationship
I agree with everything that has been said so far but also they like phone records and snail mail correspondence too. Receipts for an engagement ring are also good. The ring is not required but it helps.

Just being in the same place at the same time does not prove a realtionship. I have made trips with people I had no relationship with.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-03-16 07:02:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresCan they disapprove NOA2?
A turn down at the regional center would be very rare. I have never heard of it if the criteria was met. If something is missing they will issue an RFE to get it. If someone does not meet the qulifications such as they had never met, yes, then it can and will be turned down. Perhaps a form that was filled out so terribley and incompletely that they threw up their hands and said, start over. Theoretically you are entitled to bring in and marry a person you love.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-03-16 14:06:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresCan they disapprove NOA2?
Quality control is a pretty good answer.

Administrative review is when they think they see a red flag someplace. It might be that the applicants name is Al Capone and they want to make sure the real one is really dead. I am guessing it is more common since the IMBRA law. I see a lot more people talking about it than I used to. I have even seen a case go into Administrative Review after the interview where they were told it passed and before the visa was sent out. Mine hit at NVC after my NOA-2 and before the packet was sent to the Embassy.

I have no idea why mine was flagged. It is the second K-1 for me but if that was a problem it would have been decided at VT. It is also the second K-1 for my fiancee. I have a feeling they saw there had been another K-1 for a beneficiary with the same name and address and flagged it to make sure she returned to her country and did not overstay the visa which she did not.

I don't think there is anything you can do to avoid it. Typically it will delay you about 3 months. One vj'er has been in A/R for 9 months. I have heard of one lasting 3 years and another lasting 8 years.
Good luck. I hope yours goes smoother than mine.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-03-16 10:28:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresCan they disapprove NOA2?

I was just wondering can they disapprove NOA2 and what would be the reason and what are the next steps then?

has anyone ever got it?

just curious on a snowy and cold friday morning in new york.

People will tell you no, that NVC does nothing more than process paperwork and makes no decisions but it is not true. About the only thing that can happen between the NOA-2 and the interview is that you get flagged for Administrative Review which is what happend to me at the NVC. It is a big black bottomless pit that you don't want to fall into.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-03-16 08:22:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresG-221
I think you are talking about a 221-G. It should be a blue piece of paper. It is not a denial. It is called an "intent to deny" There should have been information about what they want you to prove. You have 60 days if I recall correctly to furnish the information they want and if it is not satified it is turned into a denial and sent back to NVC where you can appeal. If it does go back to NVC you are looking at a long hard process. Dealing with the 221-G at the Embassy level may not be too big a deal.

Quite often it is for failure to prove a realationship and they want more correspondence, phone bills, photos etc.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-03-16 22:25:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresG-325A
They go different places would be my thought. Probably one stays at your regional center, one at nvc and one at the embassy.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-03-11 14:29:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresDelay for security clearance

Hi, I noticed others with the same Noa2 as myself were getting interviews, so I called the Department of State this morning. They informed me that the security clearance isn't finished yet. How long could this be.

The record I have heard of is 8 years. I know of another that was 3 years. Most however are 2-12 weeks.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-03-17 10:28:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresWhat letters have to be certified/notarised?
That is correct only the I-134

Translations of anything needing it need to be done by a certified translater but the translations themselves do not need to be certified.

The letters of intent need only to be signed and dated.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-03-19 07:53:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresNeed HELP with your opinions!!!!!!

Turboguy, you were saying? :lol:
Like sands through the hourglass, so our the days of our lives...

Wow :) I didnt know VJ can be so exciting :) I'm here to find out how to deal with getting to my baby...Anyone else? :huh:


Sorry, I have my own baby and she would not appreciate if I try to get to yours.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-03-19 07:59:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresNeed HELP with your opinions!!!!!!
Yes, I guess they do. Well perhaps if nothing pops up in the next week or so one of us can post that they are 83 and their fiancee is 14 and we want to know about the legal age for marriage or something like that.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-03-18 23:32:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresNeed HELP with your opinions!!!!!!
Yes, I think he was a better guy than his angry post indicated. I would have liked to have seen him find his happiness. Second choice would be for it to have lasted a few days longer because I was enjoying following this thread.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-03-18 21:05:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresNeed HELP with your opinions!!!!!!

Joe,
hahahaha...that's totally cute :) u need to really start learning russian...or ur kids might be cursing you withought u understanding...lmao

Where do you think my children are learning the "certain" Russian words from? They hear me speak it around the house a lot of the time when I stub my toe or something simliar :blush:


Yes, but those are not the words you want your children to learn. tebya ponimau?

I agree the guy acted like a jerk but he did just watch his dreams and hopes go up in smoke? He did come here and asked for opinions but I think he got better ones and more direct ones than he expected. I have a feeling deep down in he new what we were telling him was true or he would not have asked the questions. Sometimes we have to learn from our mistakes. I hope he learned from his. He has some learning to do.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-03-18 17:49:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresNeed HELP with your opinions!!!!!!
I have been trying to meet up with my fiancee every two months. We were not too excited about the Siberian winters so we went to Egypt in December and Thailand in Febuary. In Egypt the only thing my fiancee bought for herself was a bracelet for about $ 25.00. Actually she spent more on something for me using her own money. In Thailand she bought two beautiful tops and they were $ 8.00 each and she bought a wrap for about $ 20.00.

I will go along with perhaps she did not know the value of a dollar but most gals there know exactly what a dollar is worth. I think it is a read flag. I have met a number of high maintenence gals who wanted $ 400.00 boots within two hours on our first date, or an $ 800.00 coat Give her the benefit of the doubt this time if you wish. I would be watching her spending habits though.

If you get the wrong one you had better be rich. I have one friend who has been married now for a year and a half. The day she arrived he had to buy $ 800.00 in linens. Since then there have been cars, computers, $ 15,000 in dental work and that is just the start of the list.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-03-16 17:27:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresNeed HELP with your opinions!!!!!!
My current K-1 is my second. Different fiancee this time and a really great girl and we are both head over heels in love.

To be honest, your relationship reminds me a lot of my first K-1. It was rocky and on and off again. When the K-1 was approved and she got here is turned into a big disaster. After she got back home she started to beg me for another chance. To this day she still would like it to do over. To be honest she was beautiful and wonderful but had some issues inside herself and I don't think she will ever have a happy marriage.

I really think you should give some serious consideration to visiting with your gal again and get the relationship issues resolved before you both disrupt your lives. I am not saying you both don't have good intentions and that it won't work but I think you need more time together and to build a real relationship. It just sounds too much like you want it because you think she is young, pretty and nice and she wants it becuase it is a ticket to a better life and she thinks you are a good man. Love needs to come into the equation and you can only build that by being together.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-03-16 07:16:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresNeed HELP with your opinions!!!!!!
I think you need to realize that she is likely giving up a job and disrupting her life a lot. A prenup can be good for both of you. I know one Ukarainian gal who came her on a K-1, married, divorced a year later and they each spent $ 20,000 in legal fees including about $ 5,000 each argueing about who owned an $ 8.00 snow shovel. With a good prenup you can save the arguements and the legal fees.

She got to stay in the USA and came out with about $ 30,000 in her divorce settlement and a lawyer bill for $ 20,000. He lost his house over it and a lot more in addition. The only winners in a divorce are the lawyers.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-03-16 00:32:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresNeed HELP with your opinions!!!!!!
I have a feeling you would be surprised how many couples here have that much age gap. It is not that unusual. Hugh Hefner who is 80 just married a 27 year old.

You really don't have any facts to know what kind of agreement she wanted. A contract to marry would not be binding anyway. It would be interesting to know what she had in mind. Was it a pre-nup possibly. Many do it. My fiancee and I are doing one and we both want it. She wants it to know if things don't work out that she will not come away with nothing but an airline ticket and I want it to protect my business and to make sure my kids who both work in my business don't get left in the cold.

I still think they rushed into something too soon but that happens. None of us have enough facts to make moral judgements. Buying her a blouse does not make her a hooker or him a John
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-03-15 23:03:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresNeed HELP with your opinions!!!!!!
He said expenses but he did not say for the visa expenses but I would guess that was the deal. If he was giving her money for the expenses of that meeting it would be really cheap to take it back.

A lot of the gals there watch something like dyansty and think all the roads in the USA are paved with gold. Maybe she just has false illusions about his finances. There is not enough of the story being told. If he hinted he was rich then she should expect expensive clothes. To me it just sounds like people who rushed into something without knowing each other well enough. He was captivated by her youth and looks and she was captivated by the chance to come to America and live the lifestyle of the rich and famous first hand.

You are supposed to have things worked out ahead on a Fiancee visa. You should be in love and compatable and have a real relationship. I can't see that as having happened here. He should withdraw the petiton and go see her again for a longer period of time and really get to know each other, or they both should just move on.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-03-15 20:54:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresNeed HELP with your opinions!!!!!!
Wow, First off, yes, you don't have a good woman. I have gone to Russia tons of times. I had one K-1 with a Russian gal that did not work out and am currently working on my second K-1 with another Russian gal. I am going to come back to this.

First the age difference. Some seem to feel that dooms it, I don't. I have had a bigger age difference with both my Russian Fiancees. Age differneces far in excess of that are common with asian gals and with Russian ones, less than 10 years is rare and 10 to 20 is pretty normal. We did a poll at a discussion site I go to that is most all American Men dating or married to Russian woman and 11-16 years and 16 - 21 years difference were the two most common.

Next, the problem you had with sex. Most gals won't look at it as a big deal. Being a guy, I know we all are very sensative about it and if it doesn't work it can be very discouraging. With a new relationship, nerves get thrown into the equation just as often. Most of my life I worked just fine but like most men, I have had a few times I was a total flop. (flop seems like a pretty good word for it, doesn't it) even when I was young. It can happen to anyone. don't sweat it. If it is never going to work that is something that two people need to deal with. Many women can accept that just fine and some can't.

Yes, there are a lot of Russian women who are motivated by the wrong goals but there are some good ones and they more than make it worth what we have to go through to find them. Flat out you don't have a good one.

I know you were looking for advice about your K-1. I don't think the K-1 forum is a place to go too far into relationships. Perhaps the regional section for Russia at the bottom of this site or someplace I would recommend very highly is russianwomendiscussion Just add the usual internet stuff to that and you will find one of the most helpful sites on realtionships going. Be sure you spell it women and not woman or you will go the wrong place. They can be a little tough on people sometimes but you can learn a lot that you really should know. I have sent people from there to visajourney a million times, now I hope I can help you and send one the other way.

Good luck but drop the K-1. She is not worth it.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-03-15 19:18:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresusing whiteout etc on the forms?
I always heard the opposite, that you should not use white out. Instead they say you should draw a line through the mistake, write the correct thing in and initial the change.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-03-17 21:54:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSecurity Name Checks
I can agree that security checks are very needed in the world as it is today.

I have to say it bugs me a lot less though to stand in a line for two hours trying to get through security at an airport as long as I don't miss my flight than it does to spend months waiting while they do an A/R when there is absolutely no reason to do an A/R
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-03-23 14:51:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresWhen To Apply for K1 visa
As far as when you should apply the processing time can vary a lot on where your fiance lives. If he is using the Vermont center, yesterday would be good. With some of the others a few months ago would be good.

You should be ok on October but I would not book any halls or have any inviations printed up yet. I would say you can't expect much less than 5 months and it could be lots more. Remember that when the visa is issued you have 180 days to come here and start the process. You don't need to worry about being too early. Get the visa and then time your visit to what is right for your wedding plans. I wish you the best of luck.

Edited by Turboguy, 24 March 2007 - 08:37 AM.

TurboguyMaleRussia2007-03-24 08:37:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresK1 Visa's and marrying outside of the US
Didn't they do away with the CR-1 or DCF about a month ago becasue of the Walsh Act? I think that is no longer an option. You now have to do a K-3. Someone can correct me if I am wrong but I think I am not.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-03-25 17:08:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresWill age difference matter?
People look for any reason to talk about someone. Even if the ages were the same just having a fiancee or fiance from overseas is enough that they will wonder if you couldn't find someone in the USA. I am sure they would not run thier life by what you think so you need to let anything including the age thing roll right off your back like water on a ducks back. It is your life and you have to persue happiness whatever form that takes.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-03-24 23:36:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresWill age difference matter?
Yes, but the way things are going for me you may beat me to the brass ring. I have been stuck in A/R for two months with no end in sight. I heard of one case that was in A/R for 8 years.

The other thing to keep in mind is when we are in a real relationship we know it is real. The C/O doesn't. Sometimes our confidence in our relationship makes it so obvious in our mind that we forget we need to prove it to him.

Edited by Turboguy, 24 March 2007 - 01:03 PM.

TurboguyMaleRussia2007-03-24 13:01:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresWill age difference matter?
Well some of us won't need as long a delay to make the late 70's as others will.

I would recommend for those of us with a bigger age difference to go the extra mile to inusre we prove a relationship. Sometimes the questions are easy and sometimes they can throw one at our fiancee that we would never expect. Let me give you an example. For many of us who correspond by e-mail and make trips to meet our S/O. Does your fiancee know your mailing address? Does she know your shoe size? your phone number? your mothers name? My first fiancee missed two questions. She had no reason to know the ones she missed. Missing two raised some doubts in the C/O's mind. Spend time making sure she knows everything they could ask and make sure you have lots of proof. My first fiancee went in with 10-12 photos of us taken during 3 different meetings. This time we are going in with 100 taken over 4 meetings. The first time it was photos of us together. These photos look like lovers. We are hanging all over each other. Of course my new fiancee is much more romantic and affectionate than the former one. We are always hanging all over each other and it is rare that you could slide a sheet of paper between us when we are together.

You can never be too prepaired. It is much better to do something extra to make sure it goes easily than to wish you had and to be trying to figure out how to salvage things.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-03-24 11:20:00