ForumTitleContentMemberSexCountryDate/Time
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionInterview concern
The white slip is very unusual in a Fiancee situation. It would generally be in a case where they are convinced there is fraud.

The blue slip which is officially a 221-G is also called an "Intent to Deny" What it really means is they feel there was not enough evidence presented in one area (or more) of your proofs. They will detail what they want and you have 90 days to produce evidence showing that you do meet the requirements. Quite often this is in the area of proof of a relationship and they will ask for phone records, letters, e-mails, boarding passes and the like.

Lately there seems to be a rash of 221-G's My guess would be that about 10 percent of K-1s get a 221-G and that about 90% of those are able to produce evidence to get the visa but that is just my guess.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-01-21 10:51:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionIs this normal?How many have experience with this?
If you got a blue slip of paper it is a 221-G. They also call that form an "intent to Deny" but don't let that name scare you. It just means you need to provide more evidence (usually of a relationship). Most who get a 221-G are able to end up with the visa.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-01-18 09:20:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionK-1 Together at the interview?
With my first fiancee I went along even though I could only wait outside and pace the ground. I was the only fiance there although there were 9 or 10 gals inside who were there for fiancee visas.

With my new fiancee I plan to be there with her if the interview date allows. Our plan is to spend a weeks vacation together, for me to bring the info she will need, for us then to go to moscow for her physical and interview and then for her to go home and get her stuff and for me to return to America and wait for her arrival a few weeks later.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-02-18 11:22:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionK Visa Interviews - All consulates
Definition of a Marriage Broker. Off the top of my head. If you pay for anything, membership, names, contact info, meeting or anything that allows you to connect with her then it is a marriage broker. If it is free totally it is not a marriage broker.

The firm is not primarily Religious in nature.

It must be primarily 51% matching people from the USA with non citizens (This exempts Match, Yahoo, etc.)
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-03-09 16:27:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionAffadavit of Support
It would be the I-134. Acording to the info you have listed you have just made your initial filing for a K-1. The I-864 is for after you get married when you file for your AOS
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-03-12 22:13:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionAffadavit of Support
No it would not.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-03-11 14:35:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionRUSSIAN K3 QUESTIONS
Moscow and Vlad are the only clincs that work.

If you don't get an answer here try posting in the K-3 section or in the Regional section for Russia but I believe the son also needs the exam and I believe the vaccinations can be done here but have her ask the clinic for a copy of their vaccination records so they don't have to repeat them here. The other thought is that it will be cheaper to get any vaccinations they need in Russia than it will be here so just getting them done might be a good, safe and money saving option.

Edited by Turboguy, 12 March 2007 - 07:46 AM.

TurboguyMaleRussia2007-03-12 07:42:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionHelp finding link please..
Try the second blue bar on the top. The darker one. The 5th catorgoy is Embassy links. That should take you there.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-03-24 23:38:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionWhat is the difference between I-134 and I-864?
Sue is 100% correct. I have been through this process before an the I-134 is provided at the time of the interview. It never needs to acompany the initial filing. The rest of Sues response is also totally correct.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-03-24 20:13:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionCHECKLIST for K1 visa...
Phila, you really need to have either a letter from your bank or the last 12 months statements. You could well get a 221-g (Intent to deny) if you don't have them available. As long as your income is sufficient they won't look hard at them and won't care how pityful it is.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-03-25 18:21:00
US Embassy and Consulate Discussionaffadavit of support, frankfurt
I believe many people use their parents for their co-sponsor. It should make no difference where she lives or that she is retired as long as she has the income to meet the requirements for you. I belive the co-sponsor guidelines are set by the USCIS not the individual embassies.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-03-28 07:40:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionAdrenaline Rush!!!
I think you will be ok from a visa standpoint. You said you had your letter from your employer already. If you have that, your 1040's and some pay stubs that is all they are going to ask for. You are showing an income that is suffiecient. You never want to lie to them but you will have all the bases covered that they are going to ask about. The odds of them asking her if you have quit your job is pretty small. If they ask what her what you do telling them the type of job you work at is a good answer. The support info for what you have sent to her will not be looked at very seriously.

The other problem is you have to live and support her so I would suggest some serious job hunting.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-01-08 08:53:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionBangkok K1 visa issue question...
That is very good advice. With my first fiancee I got my ticket in advance and had to throw it away. You can buy a last minute ticket cheaper than you think. Wait until the visa is in hand. They seem to be doing a lot of Adminstrative reviews right now following the interview which means you may not get it for a few weeks or even a few months after the interview. There is always a chance you can get a 221-G as well that could delay things. Wait.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-03-26 00:15:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionK1 221(g)
The 221-G is what I hear the most about it is a blue slip. Pink sounds like they are going to do some adminstrative processing. That may take from 2 weeks to 3 months, maybe more. The record is 8 years.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-03-29 16:39:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionK1 221(g)
I agree, don't panic and don't worry about a lawyer.

I had a 221-G with my first fiancee. The official title of it is scary. It is called an "intent to deny". It would more appropriatly called an intent to approve.

What it means usually is that you have passed the interview. Sometimes there is something they want more proof on and that would be listed. Basically when they have that and check it all out you will get your visa. If you failed the interview you would have received a flat out denial.

The bad news is it is probable you will be going into Administrative Review while they check the background on anyone whose name you furnish. That can be a delay of a few weeks or a few months. I have been in A/R at the NVC level now for 9 weeks.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-03-29 08:41:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionDude, where's my passport ?
I think you need to figure this out because they will not let you on the plane without the visa and passport. It could not be in an envelope, sealed, to be opened by the immigration people upon arrival.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-03-30 13:38:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionI-134 Affidavit of Support
You take it to the interview and it needs to be notarized.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-03-31 10:15:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionLong time process
It sounds like they still don't know. If you were totally rejected your passport would have been returned. I think you are in A/P or A/R.

All you can do is call the embassy and try to get some information.

If you are rejected your file will be sent back to NVC and you have up to 1 year to appeal the decision. It is a long, slow and difficult process from what I hear and does not have a high success rate. Don't worry unless your passport comes back to you without the visa.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-03-31 11:47:00
US Embassy and Consulate Discussionso worried
There seems to be a lot of people going through A/P or A/R these days. I think in the case of many coming from Muslim countries they want to check his name and his close family names against any lists they have of known terrorists and once that is done you will have your visa.

A/P is tough in that all you can do is sit and wait. There is no way to get information about your case or to find out when it might be approved. Good luck and I hope your delay is a short one.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-03-31 08:50:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionPolice Certificate
I am not sure how much help I am going to be. I see people say yes, and people say no.

I can say this for sure. My current K-1 is my second fiancee. With my first K-1 (interview August 2005) we did NOT have the police certificate translated and it was accepted.

In the previous interview we had the birth certificate translated only (she had never been married)

I think the question is the definition of "document". I believe they may interpret document as things that are normally certified such as birth certificates, divorce decrees and the like and may consider the police report more of a "report" than a document.

Your timeline makes me happy that my fiancee and I have had our meetings since the first one in warm places. My gal also lives deep in Sibera a four hour flight east of Moscow. I was in Russia the year before when the temps were -30 and it was brutal.

Edited by Turboguy, 31 March 2007 - 07:30 AM.

TurboguyMaleRussia2007-03-31 07:25:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionI am so pissed

From what I have been told, that's pretty typical for a petition that has been returned due to a lack of bonafides. Just tie it up forever in limbo.

Better to cancel that petition and refile for a different visa type - what I have always heard anyway.

They don't seem to rush that. I withdrew one and it took about 2-3 months before I got a letter from them about it.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-03-11 09:46:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionI am so pissed
I think both Senators and Congressmen have immigration specialists on thier staff. You just need to find who is the ones serving your area and contact them. I went through a 221-G with my first fiancee and my congressman's immigration specialist was very helpful. We had the visa 2 weeks later.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-03-07 09:13:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionAffidavit of Support - Savings

Hello,
On the Affidavit of Support, it asks for savings accounts, are these really looked at or considered?
Is there a certain amount needed to have?


As long as you have the income to meet the requirements this will not be looked at closely and there is no minimum requirement.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-04-04 08:04:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionWhat is the Color of the slip that gives you Visa?
I could be wrong but I think 'NO' paper is the one you want. I think they just tell you verbally that you have been approved and will recieve the visa in whatever time they are quoting.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-03-29 19:00:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionHow to get I-134 notarised
One other thing. Don't sign it before you go where you have it notarized. You need to sign it with them as a witness. They are certifying you signed it and need to see it being signed.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-04-07 07:08:00
US Embassy and Consulate Discussioninterview questions
It can vary a lot on the C/O you have. The record for easy interviews that I have heard of is one fiancee who was asked one question. "How are you today?" If you get a tough one and he has doubts about the viabilty of your relationship they can go as far as asking your shoe size or your mother's birthday. Usually the questions are not that hard if two people really know each other.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-04-08 07:05:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionUS Embassy in Moscow....
AO "MEDITSINA"
FILATOV CLINIC
INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATION FOR MIGRATION (IOM)

Looking at the three names refreshes my memory a bit. AO Medissina is the $ 100.00 that is nice. I have not been inside but have been in front of it and it is a nice modern looking place.

IOM is the $ 80, rude one that is fast.

Filatov as I remember is in Vladivstok so unless that is close is not one you would want to consider.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-04-08 19:17:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionUS Embassy in Moscow....
You can ask me anything any time. I will be happy to help when I can. The way things are going for me I will still be here patiently waiting as you celebrate your 10th aniversary of being together in America. :whistle:

Yes, that is the $ 80.00 one.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-04-07 16:41:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionUS Embassy in Moscow....
That is correct. When packet 3/4 arrives it will have a list of things you need and include the interview date. If for some reason you can not be ready by that date then call the embassy and they will reschedule the interview.

I would suggest as soon as you get the notice from the NVC that your packet has been sent to the Moscow Embassy that she gets her police report. Sometimes it takes a while and if she waits until she gets her packet she may not have enough time.

There are two medical centers in Moscow for the medical. One charges $ 100.00 and has the results the next morning. The other charges $ 80.00 and you can get the results the next day. The one that charges $ 100.00 is supposed to be much more polite and the nicer of the two. I would recognize which is which if I saw the names but I believe A O Medico is one of the names or close and that is the $ 80.00 one.

She will need a pre-paid mailer from DHL to have with her at the interview. There are two DHL places in Moscow. The main one is somewhere in the center. The branch is right next to the embassy. To the right of the entrance you use for the interview sitting back is a shopping center. The DHL branch is in the shopping center down on the basement floor. There are signs.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-04-07 11:00:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionUS Embassy in Moscow....
Yes, and some are a lot slower too. With Moscow you will find that you have the packet before it appears on the interview schedule they have on the internet. Another plus for Moscow is that they combine packet 3 and 4 and that saves you some time.

On my first K-1 I had a friend who had a fiancee from Ukraine, mine was from Russia. I had gained two weeks on him in the NOA-phase but lost 3 at the Embassy level.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-04-07 07:22:00
US Embassy and Consulate Discussioni-134 expires right before interview
That is a pretty common situation. They automatically extend them so don't worry about it.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-04-08 00:22:00
US Embassy and Consulate Discussionadministrative review -moscow embassy
I can understand your feelings exactly and A/R is probably the worst thing that can happen to a Visa Application. Many escape with short stays in A/R. For others it is a total disaster. On one other tread is a guy who has been in it for 2 years. My congressman has one other in A/R that has been there for 9 months. The worst case I have heard of is one that lasted 8 years. For me it is three months with no end in sight and no information available. Mine hit at NVC rather than the Embassy.

The similarities we have are the country for one, Russia, a second K-1 for our gals. Mine returned in 30 days on her first K-1. In my case it was also my second K-1 with a different fiancee as well.

Because of the possibility of it being very very long term we are looking at the possibilty of finding a country we can live in together until it comes through. We are going to decide that in about a month if there is still no progress.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-04-25 07:49:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionDuring the Interview
If something is missing or does not satisy them the issue a blue slip called a 221-G. The heading on the blue slip is "Intent to Deny" They will list what they want to see for approval and if you do not submit it in satisfactory manner within 60 days then the denial becomes official and the file is returned to NVC where your only option now is an appeal. Appeals go very slow and are something you want to avoid.

Of course they can also just issue a denial and then you have only the option of appeal. Flat out denials are not common unless they perceive fraud.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-04-26 16:29:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionK1 VISA SUBJECT TO ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW in MANILA EMBASSY.

There are many other sites which say the same thing about people from many countries. I am just puzzled myself, why so few are selected for AR. When USINS suspected 20 to 30% of marriage fraud. There is only one solution is to get married in Philippines as there are very few selected for AR after being married.


There are 138,000 people in A/R right now. 65% take more than 3 months to complete and 38% take more than one year. It is not as few as you think.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-05-06 19:52:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionAdministrative Review
Congratulations on your visa. I am sure the trip through A/R seemed very slow but actually it was pretty fast compared to others. I hope you have a storybook life together.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-05-10 07:14:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionAdministrative Review
I have been on A/R for 10 weeks at the NVC level. I have been reading everything I can about it. It can happen at the Embassy level or NVC with the Embassy the most common. Most of the A/R's seem to be in Muslim countries where it is common.

The impression I have is that it usually involves security checks. At the Embassy level it happens when the background and security checks are not complete. I have a feeling that is the case with yours.

One of the bad parts is you never know when it will end or how long it will take but often at the Embassy level it is as little as two weeks. Sometimes it can go on for a few months.

The best thing I can say is stay calm. It won't hurt to contact your congressman but they can not help a lot.

Good luck.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-04-10 22:30:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionInterviews
My former fiancees was a while back. I doubt much has changed. You might want to post this down in the Regional section for Russia. There are several guys there who have had very recent interviews.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-05-27 11:12:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionAdministrative processing??? whats up with this

Hello, We applied for an interview on 5/3 via the webiste, got no response, so i contacted tokyo 3 more times each time..they promised me that they would call me and let me know when the interview date would be.I called them today and they called me back saying our case on under administrative processing????
is it normal for this to happen if you are trying to schedule an interview??? From what i understand there is no way to find out how long it will take them to complete this......

I imagine this is because my wife is CHINESE.(i heard that China has a high fraud rate) I thought we would have a solid case since we have lived together for 4 years now.We will have been married 3 years this AUG.She has lived in Japan for 10 years(1st as a student and then working in japan)I have visited China with her and she has come to visit the US with me.We have visas and stamps to prove this.


Does anyone have any advice for me ??? We were playing to leave this june.What else can i do??
Thanks in advance


There is probably not a lot you can do. A congressman can't help a lawyer can't help. There is no way to get any information and no timelines about how long it can last. I got mine at the NVC level and it has now passed the 4 month mark. Many get it at the embassy level. For many it is a few weeks or a few months. For others it may be much longer. One of our fellow members has been waiting 5 years. The record I have heard of is 8 years. Yes it does happen more with China, Russia and the Muslim countries.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-05-30 10:31:00
US Embassy and Consulate Discussionwhat counts as income?
I would guess that if it shows up on your income tax statement it is income. Investment income sure. If someone had 5 million in a money market acct and was collecting $ 250,000 a year in interest but had no job I am sure they would not question the income.

Heating assistance, Rebates on taxes, rebates on the new computer you bought, lottery winnings, cash money from mowing lawns, all that, NO.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-05-31 07:16:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionUnder AP at NVC?
I hope it goes quickly for you. I have passed the 4 month mark myself. I think they really have a problem with how they handle A/P and need to make some improvements.
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-05-30 10:35:00