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K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)

I have no problem with what you are saying. But I supplied emails between Teaw and I back to from April of 08 after the ex and I had agreed that the divorce was best for both of us. I only had chats going back to September before the divorce. So I established the relationship existed before I was able to get back over and get the divorce done and by the time I got the divorce done we had already decided to file for the visa after I got home in October. If you met Teaw you would know without a doubt this is no fraud case.


I don't think this is a fraud case, but your problem may be that the embassy suspects it is and they want to investigate further. Maybe they actually want time to read and analyze your emails and chats (as I think they don't normally do that as a matter of course).

How much of what you told us do they know? Hopefully they will let you supply additional information at this point. You definitely don't want the case to be sent back to the USCIS for visa fraud as that will result in a permanent ban on your fiancee and it seems that that finding takes forever to overturn, if it ever happens at all. This seems to happen to Vietnamese cases regularly and you can read about some real horror stories there.

Trust me, it wouldn't matter if I met her. My friend is the sweetest East European girl I've ever met, but she got her citizenship through a wedding "arrangement" with an American. She lined up one for her sister, too. Both divorced as soon as they had naturalized. Brought their parents over, too. If you ask them, they will tell you that it is what they had to do to survive and help their family. Again, I'm NOT saying that this is you, but embassies see these cases all the time, and you can't tell anything based on a sweet personality.
toma1MaleThailand2010-04-07 12:50:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)

can i ask where you booked your flights? and what months? i am looking for flights in june and can't really find anything below $1400


China Eastern has a $1104 fare from LAX in June. That's the cheapest published fare I could find in June from the USA - Thailand at the moment. Other than that, you might try a consolidator.

Edited by toma1, 07 April 2010 - 10:33 AM.

toma1MaleThailand2010-04-07 10:33:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)

The divorce was done in Oct 2009 and a certified registered translated copy was included with the initial filing. She got the 221g after her initial interview and they had checked more evidence of relationship, photos, etc. So on Monday she took in about 300 pages of emails, over 130 pages of chats, 70 or more photos, some phone bills she was able to get from AIS and my most recent cell phone bill to add to the other ones they had from the initial stuff.
What should it matter about the other divorce as long as it was done and over with? Should not be a concern of theirs. It was all done legally at the Amphur office.


They are charged with determining whether a relationship is valid or not. Again, just a random guess, but they could be questioning the fact that you got engaged and filed for a K1 only a few weeks after your divorce was final. Maybe they are looking for evidence of a relationship before you filed the K1 paperwork. It would be hard to supply evidence for the period between the divorce being final and the time the K1 was filed.

I don't think yours is a visa fraud case, but I have personally known of several. There have even been cases where someone divorced their spouse in order to help someone get a visa. In these cases, they could supply all of the evidence in the world that a relationship existed AFTER the visa filing. But, of course, they had nothing before that. They simply struck a deal and filed for a visa. Again, please don't think that I am saying that this is the case with you, but that might be what the embassy is thinking.
toma1MaleThailand2010-04-07 10:22:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)

Well, I was married to another Thai lady for a little over a year, mostly because I had to wait to get back over there before we could go get the divorce done at the Amphur office. They did ask her about it at the
interview but she only knows what little she wanted to know about it and that's it. She doesn't really care about the ex. The marriage deteriorated quickly about two months into it and Teaw and I picked up our
relationship as we had known each other for about a year before I made the mistake of getting married. But I explained in my letter that we knew each other and were friends until my situation changed in April of last year.
Oh, well, we will just have to wait it out and see what happens and hope they don't take too long.


I would guess that would be what they are investigating then. When was that (divorce) paperwork completed?

Edited by toma1, 07 April 2010 - 09:55 AM.

toma1MaleThailand2010-04-07 09:55:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)

As toma1 said, we don't really know for sure why you may be in AP. If you are in AP, you may want to talk to eric_f since he has firsthand experience w/ AP at the BKK embassy.


There is also an entire section here devoted to AP called:

Waivers (I-601 and I-212) and Administrative Processes (221g)

But you definitely should not buy a plane ticket until you get this sorted out.
toma1MaleThailand2010-04-07 09:48:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)

Man, there is nothing to check on her. She is squeaky clean. Been working for Western Digital for 14 years and living alone all that time. Just visits her family in Buriram when she can.


I would think if they were doing background checks on you, Tom, it would have been at the VSC. So maybe questioning your relationship and they want to check out something along those lines then? These are just random thoughts. It's hard to guess.

Edited by toma1, 07 April 2010 - 09:45 AM.

toma1MaleThailand2010-04-07 09:44:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)

Wouldn't they at least tell you that's what they were doing? And what exactly are they doing during all that time, do you know?


I don't think they will tell you exactly what. They could be doing more background checks on Teaw.
toma1MaleThailand2010-04-07 09:38:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)

Administrative Processing. It's usually a long process. eric_f was in AP for about 7 months I believe.


They should give her a paper when they return the passport which will let you know for sure.
toma1MaleThailand2010-04-07 09:35:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)

can i ask where you booked your flights? and what months? i am looking for flights in june and can't really find anything below $1400



Where are you flying from? I might be able to find you something better.

I could be wrong, but if they are giving back her passport without the visa inside of it, then it sounds like you are in AP. I only know about one other Thai member of VJ who was put into AP in the last year: eric_f.


Yep. That's not good news. I think "a while" means "quite a bit longer than the holiday period" in that case.
toma1MaleThailand2010-04-07 09:26:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)
OK, you fixed it...

Edited by toma1, 07 April 2010 - 09:22 AM.

toma1MaleThailand2010-04-07 09:22:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)

Yes, one way is not cheap. I did find it for about $1100 on AsiaTravel depending on the return date but I know going through
the airline itself will cost more. OH, well, if anyone thinks of another website that might help please let me know.


It won't necessarily cost more on the airline site... sometimes it costs less.


$1100! Wow, what a ripoff! Might as well buy the round trip and use the second half when you go back again. I just booked my flights for the summer and that's almost as much as Singapore Airlines is charging, which is an obscenity. Singapore is a fantastic airline. Well... hopefully you are getting a Cathay code share flight. Does it stop in Hong Kong?

Edited by toma1, 06 April 2010 - 12:28 PM.

toma1MaleThailand2010-04-06 12:27:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)

I should have mentioned that I want it to be on American Airlines as that is what I will be flying to go pick her up.
Thanks.


You can try sidestep.com or bing.com, but in all honesty, you probably won't find a cheap oneway fare on American or any other USA based airline.
toma1MaleThailand2010-04-05 21:45:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)

Teaw has been in usavisa4thai for some time now. She found it on her own, and I am glad she did. Kept her up to date on what was
happening at the interviews.

But a different question now. Can anyone give me some internet sites where they got real cheap prices for a one way plane ticket?
I found one...AsiaTravel...and it kind of goes up and down depending on the day I look. So I'd like to know if anyone has used
another site they can point me to so I can check it out. Thanks.

Also, I am not too worried about waiting 10 days after she submitted the other proof of relationship stuff Monday. They told her they wanted to clear everything out that they could by Songkran and they told her they would get back to her soon so I expect she will hear from them Wed. when to pick up the visa if she gets it. Thankfully I have many pics of me and both of us with her family on both our visits up to them in Buriram and I know she included some in what the took Monday Thai time.


Check the price on Kuwait Airways. www.kuwait-airways.com

Usually cheap for a oneway.
toma1MaleThailand2010-04-05 21:27:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)

http://www.delta.com/planning_reservations/plan_flight/international_travel_information/visa_passport_information/index.jsp


VisaHQ has a similar tool, but I didn't think of that as being a "list" I guess. I just tried the Delta site and found that the resulting explanation is substantially more complicated than the Visa HQ site. Not sure if that's good or bad...
toma1MaleThailand2010-04-05 10:38:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)

Where can you get a list of the countries that give preferential visa treatment if you have a US GC?


I'm not aware of a list. You usually have to check each country. For example, Canada says this:

Many people do not require a visa to visit Canada. These include:

"persons lawfully admitted to the United States for permanent residence who are in possession of their alien registration card (Green card) or can provide other evidence of permanent residence;"

http://www.ci.gc.ca/...visit/visas.asp
toma1MaleThailand2010-04-05 10:27:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)

Don't you have to take her greencard and her passport when you travel?? Are you using the name on her passport for the ticket? That's what we do and we've never had to produce any "extra" documentation.


Within the US we used her married name, because she doesn't carry a passport. Internationally we have to use her Thai passport name. This causes headaches with frequent flier programs. Some countries (Taiwan, Canada, etc.) give preferential visa treatment if you have a US GC, meaning that you end up having to show both a passport and a GC to enter and this has always required further documentation and caused delays.
toma1MaleThailand2010-04-05 09:41:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)

I don't see any benefit to changing the last name on your wife's passport. In fact, it could very well make it difficult for her to buy land in Thailand later on. Traveling w/ her GC (married name) and her passport w/ her maiden name will not be a problem. If you are concerned, take a copy of your marriage cert with.


It's always a problem for us when the ticket doesn't match the name and we have to produce all kinds of documentation.

Anyone with Thai citizenship can buy land, including naturalized farang. In my opinion, it's better to have to produce the documentation ONCE when buying land than every time you fly. But up to you.
toma1MaleThailand2010-04-04 21:50:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)

Su and I were married at the Thai temple today. Very small service, just two witnesses, 1 monk, and Su and I. We already had the excessively large engagement ceremony last month in Thailand "Whew!". What I'd really like to know is, is there any reason to notify the Thai embassy, or register our marriage at the Amphur when we return on vacation later this year?


You might want to update her passport with her new last name (assuming she changed it)... it's kind of a pain in the a** to travel with the old passport combined with the new green card.
toma1MaleThailand2010-04-04 21:25:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)

They got there last week and won't be back till later this year.


I see your status is "Filed for K1". Are they just visiting here on Tourist visas now?

Will you be back at all this summer? Maybe we can meet up there...

(I mean back to Thailand...)

Edited by toma1, 02 April 2010 - 09:36 AM.

toma1MaleThailand2010-04-02 09:34:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)

I see you're in Bradenton, I'm in Sarasota. Wife and son are currently back home visiting.


Wow, cool... When will they be back? We will be in Bangkok May-August.

Edited by toma1, 02 April 2010 - 09:10 AM.

toma1MaleThailand2010-04-02 09:10:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)
You need to learn to take one handed pix of yourselves. We travel a lot and that's one reason we have so many pix.
toma1MaleThailand2010-04-01 18:51:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)

We only have a few photos from our first visit since we were concentrating on each other and not the stupid camera.


Are you sure she's Thai? :D I don't think I will ever be elevated to the level of my wife's cameras... and yeah, she usually carries two. (Don't ask why, because I have no idea.)

Edited by toma1, 01 April 2010 - 01:28 PM.

toma1MaleThailand2010-04-01 13:28:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)
Yeah they take the package when the applicant gets there and discuss it in the interview later.
This might be why it seems that the quickest cases are the first ones. If you are called up in the first hour, I'm guessing they have already decided what is going to happen. In other words, you are either an easy YES or an easy NO.
toma1MaleThailand2010-04-01 13:11:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)
I wonder if the huge crackdown on Thai illegal aliens and undocumented workers in Florida is going to cast a shadow on the visa process?
toma1MaleThailand2010-03-14 09:05:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)

Best thing for the I-134 is last 3 years tax transcripts.


Which can be ordered from the IRS here:
http://www.irs.gov/i...=110571,00.html

And you might as well do that now.
toma1MaleThailand2010-01-19 16:58:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)

I went all the way back to 2006 and filed amended returns married jointly. They sent me a big enough check so we can go to Thailand for Songkran. It all worked out nicely.


Nice! They still have mine. :(

So you were married in 2006, but for some reason couldn't file as married?

We're going back to run a study abroad program in May. Planning to stay for the summer. I think I'm going to rent out my house as a summer rental if anyone's interested...
toma1MaleThailand2010-01-19 00:35:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)

I owed the IRS $10k at the time.



Wow! And I about cried when I had to write them a check for $6500 in 2007.
toma1MaleThailand2010-01-18 19:06:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)

Whatever happened to Hyena? He posted before pretty frequently. Hope all is well.


He's doing well. Finally found a job as a nurse a couple hours from his house back in November.
toma1MaleThailand2010-01-18 19:04:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)
QUOTE (daboyz @ Jan 1 2010, 09:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I believe it's a residency requirement for 6 months, not married for 6 months.


Yep, you're right.

Here is the info for the OP:

http://www.visajourn...h...om&page=dcf
toma1MaleThailand2010-01-01 09:21:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)
QUOTE (daboyz @ Jan 1 2010, 08:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Go to the Amphur there and get married. Then you can file for DCF (Direct Consular Filing) If you are in Bangkok go to Bang Rak. Takes about an hour.


But then they have to wait for six more months before they can file... not sure if that is what he intended.

But yes, you can file for a K1 while you are in Thailand. I filed in China for a Thai fiancee!

Edited by toma1, 01 January 2010 - 09:15 AM.

toma1MaleThailand2010-01-01 09:13:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)

Wow Eric! You have a VERY cool story! Congrats!

I see Chanisa is a restaurant manager. Where did she learn English so well? Wondering if she had been working at a place that caters to Westerners and learned it there, or if it was somewhere else. It's one thing to learn a language; another to get enough practice to know it so well.

QUOTE (Erich&Chanisa @ Dec 30 2009, 09:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
NOTE: Of the 5 K-1 seekers Chanisa knew about (including herself), 3 were granted visas and 2 were not.


Did she get any idea as to why this result occurred?
Any idea whether these interviews were conducted in English or Thai?

toma1MaleThailand2009-12-31 11:45:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)
QUOTE (JD63 @ Dec 22 2009, 06:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is that more expensive at BNH? I think the fiancee said she prefers that one since she had done all her paperwork for her other visa there. Also bigcasino, she said there's a "fast track" at the police station if you offer to give them some extra baht.


No... should be about the same price. My wife worked at BNH a lot and prefers it as well.
toma1MaleThailand2009-12-23 00:36:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)
QUOTE (bigcasino75 @ Dec 22 2009, 12:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hi all, so we got our NOA2 now! as soon as I get the hardcopy I will call NVC. I have done all of the packet 3 and 4 forms and they are in the mail to Sa now. I am thinking that she should get her medical done soon any advice on this.
1. Does she need a appointment or can she walk in?
2. can she do it before she get the packet from the embassy or does she have to wait.
3. what hosipital did you go to?
4. how much did it cost?
5. what shots were needed?
6. any advice will help thanks guys


1. Walk in--it's still Thailand after all...
2. Yes, we didn't get a packet from the embassy
3. Bumrungrad
4. Depends on the number of vaccinations that you need. We don't remember exactly how much. You can call Bumrungrad, though.
5. Depends on the individual.
6. Take the blank form with you which you can print from the embassy website. The hospital has blank forms but they charge for them.
toma1MaleThailand2009-12-22 12:54:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)
QUOTE (JD63 @ Dec 11 2009, 09:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Does anyone know how to measure for a Thai wedding suit? My Fience is worried that I will not have time to get my wedding suit altered when I arive before our wedding. She ask me to send her my mesurements so she can have the Tailor prepair it. Can I just go to a tailor here and have them take my mesurments then convert them to metric and send that to her? I hope it is that simple but most things are not. Thanks for any help from those in the know.



Same as any other suit. You don't even need to convert it, as most tailors are used to English. But measurements alone are rarely enough. The good tailors tack the cloth together loosely first and have you try it on.
toma1MaleThailand2009-12-11 09:48:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)
QUOTE (JD63 @ Dec 7 2009, 10:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ok another silly question that should be obvious...I fill out I-134 for support correct? But packet 4 contains I-864? Is this just for immigrant visas that need the form? or which one do they need?


134 for K1, 864 for AOS later.
toma1MaleThailand2009-12-07 22:32:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)
QUOTE (rsn @ Dec 7 2009, 10:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Don't be surprised if she cranks it up to 80 whenever you aren't looking. I speak from personal experience.


My wife likes it at 80 when I'm not home.. but I'm in Florida and we're talking summer, so no complaints here!
toma1MaleThailand2009-12-07 22:27:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)
QUOTE (JD63 @ Dec 7 2009, 09:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
PS any tips for getting her acclimated to the Midwest winter? It seems like that first one might be a little rough.


Haha.. I have no idea. My wife can barely tolerate the winter here in Tampa Bay.

We went to Manhattan for Christmas last year and she nearly died; it was only in 20s-30s...

Edited by toma1, 07 December 2009 - 09:21 PM.

toma1MaleThailand2009-12-07 21:20:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)
QUOTE (toma1 @ Nov 29 2009, 06:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (daboyz @ Nov 29 2009, 06:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Kind of a weird request. Does anyone know how to get a police report for a farang? Canada is asking me for this. They are also asking me for state police reports from everywhere I have lived in the US. Colorado, Texas, and Michigan. I have no idea how to get those either.


You emigrating to Canada?

If you want a police report from Thailand, someone's probably going to have to pick it up in person at the same police station that your fiancee visited. It's hard to get anything by mail from Thailand. (My wife will be in BKK in a week or so... if we can help let me know.)

For the US, see here:

http://travel.state....ncies_1201.html


toma1MaleThailand2009-11-29 18:21:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)
QUOTE (daboyz @ Nov 29 2009, 06:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Kind of a weird request. Does anyone know how to get a police report for a farang? Canada is asking me for this. They are also asking me for state police reports from everywhere I have lived in the US. Colorado, Texas, and Michigan. I have no idea how to get those either.


You emigrating to Canada?

If you want a police report from Thailand, someone's probably going to have to pick it up in person at the same police station that your fiancee visited. It's hard to get anything by mail from Thailand.

For the US, see here:

http://travel.state....ncies_1201.html
toma1MaleThailand2009-11-29 18:18:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)
QUOTE (daboyz @ Nov 28 2009, 03:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think we can self police ourselves on this thread. Whoever felt offended, I apologize.


'twasn't me...
toma1MaleThailand2009-11-28 16:41:00