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K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresTimeline Data

You filed three months after me..and I am still waiting my NOA2. That would be October. Noone knows but it is entirely possible it will take Oct or Nov for you to get an NOA2. The process is unpredictable. Vermont was moving along, but has been quiet...of course CSC is quiet again. Good luck


I understand you filed in a different service center, but in knowing that, I don't compare my petition to yours. I don't think people from other service centers should compare to VSC because there not being fair to themselves. Vermont does move faster and I would find it to be a great shock if my petition took until October to be approved, even if it is possible to get stuck. I wish we could all be processed fast, and I do think it's unfair that service centers process at different speeds. I'm sorry that you got the wrong end of the straw, but it is what it is, where it is, if that makes sense. I hope your petition will come to a speedy approval soon.

And let it be known that I'm not complaning about the processing speed currently, everything is cool, no worries!! I was just thrown off by the timeline approval date. But you can bet if it takes until October 26, all hell is breaking lose!!!


This can't be true!! it say's my petition could be approved as EARLY as October 26th!! no way! I don't beleive it!! is there something a little off with the data? Look at my VJ timeline, anyone feel it's a little off?


Don't trust too much on the timeline info at this point. You know how things have been since IMBRA... Looking at timelines, charts of the sort and comparing your timelines to others with similar ones and different results will only make you stress out. :)


Thanks Mew, your right!! after the IMBRA delay the timeline would be effected! and project longer

Well you did just file at the beginning of the month. For CSC, 3-4 months would be typical (well before IMBRA anyway).

You filed at Vermont, so I seriously doubt it will take that long. :thumbs:


I doubt it too!!

Edited by AndyMisiu, 28 July 2006 - 11:25 AM.

AndyMisiuMalePoland2006-07-28 11:23:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresTimeline Data
This can't be true!! it say's my petition could be approved as EARLY as October 26th!! no way! that's 3 more months, I don't beleive it!! is there something a little off with the data? Look at my VJ timeline, anyone feel it's a little off?

Edited by AndyMisiu, 28 July 2006 - 10:57 AM.

AndyMisiuMalePoland2006-07-28 10:56:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresI have found the missing link!
:lol: :thumbs:
AndyMisiuMalePoland2006-07-28 12:34:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresI've lost hope
I'm not going to be the one to say "everything is going to be alright" and pat you on your back. If you give up on this, your not giving up on the process or giving up on the relationship, your giving on up on your fiancee and letting them down. You need to toughen up a little bit. I'm not saying this to put you down, I'm saying this to build you up. The process is built for you to give up, and for the relationship to break! When you get married you will say "for better or worse, till death do us part" You need to stand up and be happy your even in this process with the most important person in your life! :thumbs: Good luck!!!

Edited by AndyMisiu, 27 July 2006 - 06:57 PM.

AndyMisiuMalePoland2006-07-27 18:56:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresRFE
There is no set time for each specific case. There is no way of comparing your case to the 15 days, as each case is different. From what I can tell your still doing fine and within the time. Be patient.

Will you tell me to be patient in 10 days? I'll be the same way
AndyMisiuMalePoland2006-07-29 07:26:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresWeekends?


and yes! they do work on the weedends. I just got touched! and so have others.


Thanks that truly is creative...I bet you dont get many speeding tickets do you?...LOL


uhh :yes: I've gotten worse than that ;)
AndyMisiuMalePoland2006-07-29 09:03:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresWeekends?
and yes! they do work on the weedends. I just got touched! and so have others.

Edited by AndyMisiu, 29 July 2006 - 08:45 AM.

AndyMisiuMalePoland2006-07-29 08:45:00
IMBRA Special TopicsIMBRA RFE after filing new I-129F
Well, like any good petitioner, I contacted the VSC concerning The RFE. I told them that I had already sent in the original copies of the court records and had already answered the IMBRA questions in the petition I submitted. The lady responded that I should answer the petition to the best of my ability and send in copies of the paperwork I had already sent. I asked her "don't you keep the originals with the petition when it's first received?" she replied "yes we try the best we can, but for some reason and I don't know why, some documents get misplaced around her" I gotta tell you folks, that was comforting!!

So what does a guy in this position do now. Well, I'll tell you. He's going back to all the court houses to get the necessary certified documents and is going to send it all in together with the police records!! I don't want to have this burden of worry on my shoulders that the originals may have been lost.

You can't change the mistakes you've made in the past. All you can do is move forward, learn, and make corrections to avoid making the same mistake twice.
AndyMisiuMalePoland2006-07-20 08:02:00
IMBRA Special TopicsIMBRA RFE after filing new I-129F
Thanks guy's!! I feel better about the situation and a little less lost. I hate not being in control of what's going on. I hate not having a more hands on experience with USCIS. I'm used to calling a getting answers from people and businesses I work with. I will follow your advice and then only time will tell. thanks
AndyMisiuMalePoland2006-07-20 07:07:00
IMBRA Special TopicsIMBRA RFE after filing new I-129F
Well as you all may know, I'm the guinea pig for the adjudication of IMBRA petitions with convictions relating to Alcohol. I sent in the new I-129F petition with certified court records, minus the police records. I got in the mail what looks to be the standard IMBRA RFE today.

I sent in the original certified copies of the court records with my petition and didn't make copies of them (I know, dumb move). I am now going to complete the requested information of IMBRA by sending in the police records with the RFE.

Do you feel that VSC will have all the original court records still with my petition? Do you think I should send a letter stating what I've already sent in? Should I call the VSC (whoever it is that takes calls) and tell them what I've sent in already to make sure they have it? I'm worried that they will somehow misplace or look over the original sent documents. What should I do in this case? :help:

I wonder if a second RFE is a standard now for new petitions. I will post my opinion of why the new I-129F petition might receive a standard RFE in another thread.
AndyMisiuMalePoland2006-07-19 20:55:00
IMBRA Special TopicsMillion Fiance/Spouse March on Washington
Well, I'm in for whatever!! letter, e-mail, protest, whatever!! let me know if I can be of some help.
AndyMisiuMalePoland2006-07-20 12:15:00
IMBRA Special TopicsMillion Fiance/Spouse March on Washington
Well, I'd show up in support, but not in a tux or with cardboard cutouts. Let me know when and where and I'm there. I would do anything to make this process go faster. You should think of something else we could do to involve the rest of the country that can't make the trip.
AndyMisiuMalePoland2006-07-19 18:08:00
IMBRA Special TopicsTheory on IMBRA RFE after filing new I-129F


Ah! yes! I see the waiver part now. Well, I think this was an unnecessary thread anyway. Sometimes I just get bored and want to write something. Also my fiancee is on vacation in her home country so being a part of this site makes me feel a little closer to her. Also helps me to feel that I'm doing all I can to be with her. Thans for your help and opinions. I think some new petitions have made it through without the RFE anyway.

I would like to state that you do need a waiver if you've committed a violent crime. I have read a lot of threads of people trying to get information or needing to know what to do about IMBRA. I remember a lot of people stating that a conviction is not grounds for denial. I think that it is, after understanding more. If you have been convicted of a serious crime of violence, I would suggest getting a lawyer. This is serious and far form just informing you fiancee of what you've done.

That's just my take on what I've read and been following. Remember I'm not a lawyer!!!! far from it!!!!


I have been trying to read all I have time to read and post all I have time to post.

But it is getting late and I need to compete me RFE soon (one month due date).

My fiancée and I are worried and think we should get a lawyer involved to help us with my violent crime history and try to work it out as soon as possible to we can truly see if we will get approved for our visa.

Sure we have read that it may not get approved because there was no good reasons why i did what I did.

Does anyone feel it is a good idea to hand all this over to a lawyer and see if he can make a difference in our case?

The bottom line is we want out love to continue, even if we need to look for other ways of being together!

I did what I did, I paid my dues, and I regret and want to start over again with a new life with loving happiness.

Thanks and GOD BLESS YOU ALL!!!


In my opinion it would be a good idea to hire a lawyer in your case. He can direct you in how to present your waiver. I for sure think you need a lawyer in this case. Just my opinion
AndyMisiuMalePoland2006-07-27 07:07:00
IMBRA Special TopicsTheory on IMBRA RFE after filing new I-129F

Man Andy ... you here again? haha just kidding. As far as you and william were talking about yeah most alcohol charges are "I made a mistake, shouldn't of done that".. But ya know if you have someone that has their license revoked and is still driving and under the influence too .. then that would raise some flags.. My assumption on why they added that is because of Cops.. I think when writing IMBRA maybe they were watching Cops and saying.. "Man these people are all domestic violence and well they are all drunk .. hmm thats bad..." haha :lol:

Oh yeah since some people on VJ have had problems interpreting my mood.. this was all written while laughing.


yea! I read the congress thread, had to stay out of that one, too hot to handle!!! B) I'll just have to wait and see what happens, I'll keep everyone posted.
AndyMisiuMalePoland2006-07-22 08:53:00
IMBRA Special TopicsTheory on IMBRA RFE after filing new I-129F
Thanks William33!!! I sure needed some words of encouragement!! mostly I've gotten the "you get what you deserve campaign". No, I didn't do anything that would cancel all bets!! so, I'm not so much worried about that. I'm just worried that the USCIS has never adjudicated cases like mine and will be stumbling the entire way, just like I used to :lol:

I think it could either be a quicker process because they want to practice this, or a slower process because they don't know how, or haven't figured out exactly how there going to inform my fiancee. I remember reading that they will mail this with a pamphlet, or they might have a separate pre interview to inform her with extra time to decide if she still wants to go through with the marriage. Don't worry, she know everything and will tell them it's not necessary.

I also remember reading somewhere in the law that it was up to the USCIS officers discression as to whether the information was deemed necessary to pass on to the beneficiary. I guess we will just wait and see. there is just a tornado surrounding IMBRA and i can't wait until the dust clears. I just want to be with my sweetheart.

Thanks again for the words, it sure helped me today. Good luck to everyone!!!!

Edited by AndyMisiu, 22 July 2006 - 08:39 AM.

AndyMisiuMalePoland2006-07-22 08:38:00
IMBRA Special TopicsTheory on IMBRA RFE after filing new I-129F

Andy, you got me thinking so I went back and reread the RFE. If I were a paranoid left winger, I'd be screaming about my civil rights, because my signature seems to give permission for a broad investigation, whether I commited an offense or not.

"...any related criminal conviction information pertaining to me that U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services may discover independently in adjudicating this petition will be disclosed to the beneficiary of this petition." (italics mine)

They may have been able to run cursory background checks before, but now they could become like high tech bounty hunters who can pull up your credit history, high school transcripts, medical records and more. Who's to say where they'll snoop to "discover independently"?


yea!! the law has a lot of holes in it. It's really so, so confusing and out of my control.
AndyMisiuMalePoland2006-07-21 22:20:00
IMBRA Special TopicsTheory on IMBRA RFE after filing new I-129F
Ah! yes! I see the waiver part now. Well, I think this was an unnecessary thread anyway. Sometimes I just get bored and want to write something. Also my fiancee is on vacation in her home country so being a part of this site makes me feel a little closer to her. Also helps me to feel that I'm doing all I can to be with her. Thans for your help and opinions. I think some new petitions have made it through without the RFE anyway.

I would like to state that you do need a waiver if you've committed a violent crime. I have read a lot of threads of people trying to get information or needing to know what to do about IMBRA. I remember a lot of people stating that a conviction is not grounds for denial. I think that it is, after understanding more. If you have been convicted of a serious crime of violence, I would suggest getting a lawyer. This is serious and far form just informing you fiancee of what you've done.

That's just my take on what I've read and been following. Remember I'm not a lawyer!!!! far from it!!!!

Edited by AndyMisiu, 20 July 2006 - 07:02 AM.

AndyMisiuMalePoland2006-07-20 07:00:00
IMBRA Special TopicsTheory on IMBRA RFE after filing new I-129F
In MAY and JUNE of this year I was stuck to the computer reading about IMBRA and what was going to happen with the implementation of the new law. I remember when everyone was waiting for a new form and some type of RFE. Well, we now have both. I think I remember reading somewhere that this was just a temporary petition that's under review. They need to test it out and get feed back from the public.

Well, I noticed that the IMBRA RFE contains much more detail and information concerning IMBRA and what it's asking for. One difference I see between the RFE and the new I-129F is the signature in request for permission to release any information gathered in the process to the beneficiary. Another huge difference (correct me if I'm wrong) is the IMBRA RFE asks you to submit a waiver if you've committed a violent crime. So, this leads me to believe that a violent crime committed by the petitioner is grounds for denial. I don't think you can view it any other way. Why else would you need a waiver.

The reason for the RFE would be to inform the petitioner of his right to a waiver and to get there permission to release the gathered information to the beneficiary.

I sure hope they aren't going to group alcohol convictions related to driving in with violent crimes needing a waiver. I guess the guinea pig will just have to suit up and show up to find out!!

Please, this is not a thread to post your opinion of whether or not the law is good. Please keep your posts related to the difference between the new I-129F and the RFE. We all know it's not good to be convicted of a crime.

Edited by AndyMisiu, 19 July 2006 - 09:45 PM.

AndyMisiuMalePoland2006-07-19 21:42:00
IMBRA Special TopicsNew IMBRA Restrictions on Petitions Make Sense

If you're filing a petition for the first time, do you think it would be fair that you would have to wait in line behind people who have filed two or more petitions already?


I understand the need and want to speed up the process, but I agree with KitKat. There are better ways.

I don't have the right to question someones relationship trends. Why not limit the number of blondes one can date because the brunetts aren't' getting enough love. I don't know, maybe that comment is from left field but you understand.

I don't care who I'm in line behind because I consider myself lucky to even be in this situation.
AndyMisiuMalePoland2006-07-15 11:42:00
IMBRA Special TopicsNew IMBRA Restrictions on Petitions Make Sense

Ok, I can see that point. What about the process of protecting against immigration fraud that's already in place?


I think the processes in place are currently good .. Especially the embassies cause I hear they can be ROUGH! ..

Just my opinion but I think the thought process is .. the harder and scarier we make the process the less likely we will get non bonefied marriages.. (WE being the gov't)


so, the limitation on petitions wouldn't be necessary because they should be catching immigration fraud at the Embassy
AndyMisiuMalePoland2006-07-15 11:34:00
IMBRA Special TopicsNew IMBRA Restrictions on Petitions Make Sense

The only problem is some people who are true in there feelings and really are trying to have a bonefied marriage will get caught up in the law, that's not fair to them.


Thats democracy for you, majority rule.. Yes innocent people get affected by it .. that is why there are waivers.. for that situation .. if say something legitimate happens and you apply for another petition withing 2 years.. then you send in the waiver because you truly care about them.


Ok, I can see that point. What about the process of protecting against immigration fraud that's already in place?

Edited by AndyMisiu, 15 July 2006 - 11:32 AM.

AndyMisiuMalePoland2006-07-15 11:29:00
IMBRA Special TopicsNew IMBRA Restrictions on Petitions Make Sense

The reason I believe behind the multiple petitions is to keep the "non bonefied" people out.. I mean honestly I would not ask my fiance to marry me unless I knew it could work.. Now I had the luxury of living with my fiance for a year before engagement which many don't get with foriegn fiances.. but seriously I see posts here of people wanting to cancel their petition before the I-129F is approved.. C'mon .. how can you fall outta love that quickly? haha


That would be there business and not the governments

Even if the law did work in in protecting agains non bonefied marriages, which it will. The only problem is some people who are true in there feelings and really are trying to have a bonefied marriage will get caught up in the law, that's not fair to them. Let the decision be made through the process that's already in place. The 2 year meeting in the petition and the proof of ongoing relationship in the interview process. If they can't do there job in finding fraud, then that's there problem, not the innocent people getting caught up in this mess.

What about the impact that limiting multiple petitions might have on immigration processing? If the number of K1 petitions being processed is eventually reduced, might that free up some resources to help USCIS speed up processing of other application types?


That would be a selfish reason to only have your own or my own petition speeded up. The process is what it is, some should accept it for that.
AndyMisiuMalePoland2006-07-15 11:25:00
IMBRA Special TopicsNew IMBRA Restrictions on Petitions Make Sense
I sometimes get involved with opinions that are not well thought out and this might be one of them. My opinion is this:

I'm against the multiple petition restraint, period. It seems like they are trying to weed out non bonified marriages and immigration fraud. The problem I have with it is, they already make you prove your relationship is bonified in the petition and in the interview process. They make you prove your in love!! why kill the petition for this purpose before it even gets started!!! I think it's horrible and this part of the law definitely infringes on the rights of Americans, there should not be any!!! ANY!! limitations on marriage, period!!!!

That's just my opinion after 5 minutes of thinking about it!!
AndyMisiuMalePoland2006-07-15 11:10:00
IMBRA Special TopicsPutting Detectives to Work
I have been reading up on some of the IMBRA LAW. What I'm concluding from my research is they are making IMB's request a much more extensive list of information than a regular petitioner. They are asking the IMB to collect information from the client such as different convictions than the I-129F has listed, any temporary or permanent civil protection order or restraining orders against the USC, a list of prostitution stuff, a letter of consent to release information, etc....

Take a look at what I've been reading. Scroll down to section HR 3402-107 and read from there. In section HR 3402-112 it starts listing what is required of the IMB.

http://www.online-da...f/IMBRA2005.pdf

My questions are:

1. Why are there seemingly different requirements?
2. Will they make you provide this information even if not meeting through a marriage broker?
3. If you marked "yes" to meeting through an IMB will you be given RFE for these different list of things, even if not mentioned on the I-129F or the IMBRA RFE?
4. If you did not meet through an IMB but get a "hit" in name checks for crimes listed under the IMB regulations that are not listed on the I-129F or IMBRA RFE, will they send you an RFE for information regarding that?

What's your take on this?

Edited by AndyMisiu, 31 July 2006 - 12:44 PM.

AndyMisiuMalePoland2006-07-31 12:42:00
IMBRA Special Topics137 Days and waiting.....still......
It took awhile because of IMBRA but seeing that you've sent back your RFE and they've been working on it. I would say it shouldn't be long now!!
AndyMisiuMalePoland2006-07-31 15:23:00
IMBRA Special TopicsAny approvals with IMBRA related history?
I think that's the best news I've heard all day. I hope everything will go well with mine too!!!

yea! that's true about the timeline part, ohh well!! I'll still take it as a good sign!!

Edited by AndyMisiu, 01 August 2006 - 07:29 PM.

AndyMisiuMalePoland2006-08-01 19:27:00
IMBRA Special TopicsNeed to learn about IMBRA?
Read the following links to better understand how you will be effected by IMBRA. The links will explain just about everything you need to know. I would suggest seeking a lawyer if you feel you are in any way effected by IMBRA.

http://www.uscis.gov...IMBRA072106.pdf

http://www.uscis.gov...CrHst050306.pdf

http://www.online-da...f/IMBRA2005.pdf


I hope this could be of help!! :thumbs:
AndyMisiuMalePoland2006-08-01 21:34:00
IMBRA Special TopicsAll K-1 Visas on hold till further notice
Good post and thanks for the hard work. However, I think this information is a little outdated. The guides to adjudication have been made. Look here to Learn more about IMBRA:

http://www.visajourn...showtopic=24767
AndyMisiuMalePoland2006-08-02 10:54:00
IMBRA Special Topicsquestion about IMBRA
Yes, they have new forms. Yes, even if you use this new form it's possible to reeive an RFE for the same questions. I got an RFE after using the new form.

If you want to learn more about IMBRA go here:

http://www.visajourn...showtopic=24767
AndyMisiuMalePoland2006-08-02 10:40:00
IMBRA Special TopicsJust Received my IMBRA RFE...Now What? HELP!!??
Do whatever you think will help you sleep better at night. As Mew said "they were fine" but you can write N/A if you want. Just fill it out and send it back. make sure to sign it!!!
AndyMisiuMalePoland2006-08-08 09:19:00
IMBRA Special TopicsMovin'on up, to the east side...
yeah! that's good news!!!
AndyMisiuMalePoland2006-08-09 09:15:00
IMBRA Special TopicsCalling July IMBRA RFE's that are NOT approved yet
July 28th!! but I'm not expecting anything for a couple of weeks or more. I answered "no" to the IMB question, but "yes" to convictions, not a multiple petitioner.
AndyMisiuMalePoland2006-08-03 13:02:00
IMBRA Special TopicsIMBRA?
Go here http://www.visajourn...showtopic=24767
AndyMisiuMalePoland2006-08-16 10:46:00
IMBRA Special TopicsK1 help
Go to this thread and read the links

http://www.visajourn...showtopic=24767
AndyMisiuMalePoland2006-08-16 07:17:00
IMBRA Special TopicsConversations with VSC

hmm... I wonder what they would have said if you answered "yes" to having convictions. Let me think....................... oh! yeah! your in SECURITY CHECKS FUTHA MUCKER!!! ha! ha! take a seat BIOTCH!!!

no really, I wonder what they would have said.


I have convictions, that's why I was wondering. Keep the peace!! and good luck!! I'm out!!


hmm... I wonder what they would have said if you answered "yes" to having convictions. Let me think....................... oh! yeah! your in SECURITY CHECKS FUTHA MUCKER!!! ha! ha! take a seat BIOTCH!!!

no really, I wonder what they would have said.


So out of that whole story, that's what you're wondering about? I wonder if by some chance you spend 3 more months in their purgatory, that's the first thing that will come to your mind then?



I have convictions, that's why I was wondering. Keep the peace!! good luck!! I'm out!!
AndyMisiuMalePoland2006-08-23 10:57:00
IMBRA Special TopicsConversations with VSC
hmm... I wonder what they would have said if you answered "yes" to having convictions. Let me think....................... oh! yeah! your in SECURITY CHECKS FUTHA MUCKER!!! ha! ha! take a seat BIOTCH!!!

no really, I wonder what they would have said.
AndyMisiuMalePoland2006-08-22 20:43:00
IMBRA Special TopicsPlease help me find something!!
This might be what your looking for:

http://www.uscis.gov...IMBRA072106.pdf
http://www.uscis.gov...CrHst050306.pdf
http://www.online-da...f/IMBRA2005.pdf
AndyMisiuMalePoland2006-09-01 10:53:00
IMBRA Special TopicsIMBRA


Whew ! what a relief, eh? Good luck !


I am really confused now. What is the deadline when the new forms has to be used?
When we filed our petition 1st week of june (receipt june 21st) we used the old form without imbra questions. Now my fiance said that we only have the new form when the mailing date is after june 30th.
What is right? :(


No, the cut off for using the old form was July 15th. Search through this to find your answer and proof of my response:

http://www.uscis.gov...IMBRA072106.pdf

Edited by AndyMisiu, 24 August 2006 - 07:42 AM.

AndyMisiuMalePoland2006-08-24 07:41:00
IMBRA Special TopicsThey are going by noa1 date now and not RFE reciept
William33 you are exactly right!! it should have been done better. And you are right in saying it is what it is and everyone will get done. :thumbs: you have to have faith, you have to have acceptance in the waiting, and you have to believe that in the end you will be in your loved ones arms!!
AndyMisiuMalePoland2006-08-21 20:26:00
IMBRA Special TopicsThey are going by noa1 date now and not RFE reciept
I've been researching and keeping track of NOA2's, based on what I've seen and noticed. USCIS gives themselves 60 days to process an RFE after receipt of the RFE. If you don't hear anything within 60 days I would be surprised. If you don't hear anything within 60 days, USCIS says to call them. Good Luck!!

Edited by AndyMisiu, 21 August 2006 - 05:24 PM.

AndyMisiuMalePoland2006-08-21 17:23:00