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K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsVisa in hand! TODAY!
Congratulations! I saw you were worried about the birth cert. and I didn't have any thing of use to offer at the time but it is great to see your approval without any hassle. Dublin sounds easy! Congrats again smile.gif
bakofoilFemaleEngland2008-03-03 17:29:00
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QUOTE (TBoneTX @ Mar 18 2008, 06:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Summary: Positive & VERY necessary trip. Fiancee WILL marry T-B. & move to the Estados Unidos. Si, man!

Horray!!! And muchos huggings for you TB! biggrin.gif SI, MAN!
bakofoilFemaleEngland2008-03-18 14:19:00
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Hey TB. Would love to hear the lowdown on your trip. I hope all was as you hoped it would be.

Estadia, so sorry to hear that you are still waiting. I do hope your approval comes soon. *hugs*

Eli, it's time you got yours too!
bakofoilFemaleEngland2008-03-18 12:45:00
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QUOTE (rebeccajo @ Mar 8 2008, 11:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I still cannot get the image out of my mind of someone with an RFE not being able to get through. I don't think TBone cares about that.


I do think he cares. He's simply found a way, which may or may not work, for those people who are waiting an unreasonably long time to get to speak to someone beyond the usual repetition of what is on the case update site.
bakofoilFemaleEngland2008-03-08 18:18:00
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To be fair, I don't think she was the only poster on this thread who could be viewed as antagonistic.

It would be a shame if the thread were closed down. I don't see why we can't have an honest debate about the relative merits of using TB's suggestions as long as people use them in the context he suggested in the first post. I think the thread has become inflamed in part by people being concerned about the RFE line being misused on a large scale because of others misunderstanding when it's acceptable to use it. We have to be cautious about the way we use the facilities available to us.

There are those who believe it is unacceptable to use it without an RFE. This is an equally valid point of view.
bakofoilFemaleEngland2008-03-08 18:06:00
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I can understand. To be honest though, it's just ignorance or frustration. You really shouldn't let it get to you so much. There are many many people here who value what you do for the VJ community. Those who say what they do may not realise how much you do actually help others. That's no excuse though.

In the previous post I wanted to point out how long he had waited on namecheck at AOS, but I felt if I had it would only support the idea that through suffering you understand. Frankly, that's rubbish. Anyone who has been through the process has knowledge to impart to others and we should all be respectful of that.
bakofoilFemaleEngland2008-03-08 17:54:00
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Well, I think people should cease using processing times to calculate whether a member has a valid point of view on the process. I am sick of this whole argument about who got approved first being used in any situation.

No one can predict what timeframe they will be approved in so it's no good looking at when others are being approved. It's a guideline but cannot be used to fuel an argument for using the RFE line. It's tough waiting when others are approved before you, but really that's just the way of life. Yes it's unfair but it's no individual filers fault. The process is not working as well as it could but they are still managing to process most petitions inside the six month timeframe they warn you of when you file.

If people want to make changes in this area i.e. VSC vs CSC, disparity in processing times then they need to file a complaint with the ombudsman, their representative, anyone who *might* listen. But as long as your case is under the published processing times then no one will give a damn unfortunately. It's the people stuck in name check outside the six months I feel truly bad for. Abuse the RFE line and you may contribute to the abolition of a lifeline for those stuck in namecheck hell or with real genuine need to use a dedicated RFE line. That's my point of view.
bakofoilFemaleEngland2008-03-08 17:38:00
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QUOTE (rebeccajo @ Mar 8 2008, 09:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I disagree. The line is for people with an RFE. Period.

I am now making a formal request to the Captain that this thread not only be locked, but deleted.


I do apologise. I assumed from the following posts that you were not against using the RFE line in the event of a serious concern about a case.

QUOTE (rebeccajo @ Feb 20 2008, 08:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm not suggesting your idea has absolutely no merit. But likewise I do not think you have uncovered the Holy Grail. From what you have posted, I believe your method might be helpful in moving a case off a desk if it has already been completed/adjudicated but just hasn't moved on yet.

Insofar as what Tracy has posted, I do think this 'method' would help alleviate any worry that a case file has been lost or mislaid. Oftentimes I believe this fear is the most debilitating one for petitioners whose files aren't reaching conclusion.



QUOTE (rebeccajo @ Feb 20 2008, 10:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, I might be an 'old timer' but - I do have a pending receipt notice (you see, even once the VisaJourney is over, the ImmigrationJourney is not).

At any rate, I decided to give this a whirl by following the prompts in TBone's original post.

I haven't reached the conclusion of my experiment yet (and won't be able to until tomorrow) but I have already learned that attempting this in the hopes of reaching an Immigration Officer will not work unless you try during normal business hours. My call was directed to the Information Line.


I simply posted what I did because I had an opinion on 'misuse' of the RFE line and I felt you were being unfairly represented. You are entitled to change your mind though.
bakofoilFemaleEngland2008-03-08 17:16:00
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QUOTE (TBoneTX @ Mar 8 2008, 06:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
True! And, regarding the 3-month filer, if I inadequately expressed my opinion (which was influenced by and revised on the basis of the cautionary words from others) that it was most prudent for that filer to wait awhile longer before inquiring via this method, I express this view now. Thank you for so beautifully refocusing the discussion.


You're welcome. Things on both sides of the discussion seem to have moved out of their original context. I don't see the relevance of making attacks against an experienced and valued member of the board who is merely trying to protect the interests of those who have real difficulties obtaining an NOA2. Nor is it of interest to those people to shut down the thread as long as it is understood that the suggestions you made were designed to assist them in obtaining some real answers should they be approaching or outside published processing times.
bakofoilFemaleEngland2008-03-08 13:21:00
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Right! But somewhere in the last 30 pages people have got confused. We have a three monther asking if it's appropriate to use this. That's where it gets messy. No one reads the first post 30 pages in.

It's got to be put in context. I don't think RJ is saying that noone ever without an RFE should use the RFE line. She's saying that there is a possibility of abuse and that as a consequence the line could be shut down.

30 pages on, YOUR advice is being taken out of context and RJ's comments are too. Let's be fair about this.
bakofoilFemaleEngland2008-03-08 12:58:00
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I don't think having an opinion on this process depends on whether you received your NOA2 in less than a month or over six months. We all know the system has issues which really need addressing but inundating the RFE line with calls is not the way to go about making the system fairer for all.

I've said this before and I'll say it again. Using the RFE line as a free for all means of getting information on your pending petition will ensure nothing except that the privilege will be removed for all.

The USCIS may resort to using a coded system of email for those who receive RFE's and remove the phone line altogether. This is what you are risking if you call simply on the basis that you are witnessing others being approved faster.

USCIS publish timeframes for approvals. I personally did not use the RFE line until my petition was within 2 weeks of the published timeframe AND when I noticed a glut of approvals in the month following the submission of my petition. I felt guilty for using it even then. In retrospect, the RFE line didn't help me at all, it didn't push my case faster towards approval. I am not suggesting it doesn't help in all cases but for the majority it is of no use. Your petition will be approved when they get around to it.

Here is the main reason why I would warn anyone against using the line gratuitously: USCIS allocate a number of staff to man phone calls based on a projected demand. The demand will be based on the percentage of RFE's they expect to send out for a given number of applications. If the call centre gets inundated with phone calls from people without RFE's then USCIS will either have to pay more people to man the call centres (the fee increase would be better spent on reducing time spent approving petitions), reroute calls to an operator who hasn't the authority to tell you anything useful, make the system automated so that an input of a case number without RFE will be rejected, or shut down the facility altogether and make it paper-based. How then, will the people who have waited not 3 months, or even 4 months but people who are outside processing times ever get information on their case???

When you file the I-129F, you are informed you should expect 5-6 months processing. If you get an approval in less time then just think yourself bloody lucky. There are many people stuck in name check or AP who will have no means of contacting USCIS, other than having a friendly representative, if you're not careful about how you use this facility.

I am not saying that no one should use it - in fact, if you are close to USCIS processing times or beyond them then you should try and shake that NOA2 free and using TB's suggestions would be of more use than simply asking about the status of your case. Less than 5 months (unless USCIS miraculously post less than 5 months as a timeframe) and you're abusing it in my view.

Edited by babblesgirl, 08 March 2008 - 11:26 AM.

bakofoilFemaleEngland2008-03-08 11:23:00
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QUOTE (BlakeandOlha @ Feb 27 2008, 10:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (TracyTN @ Feb 27 2008, 02:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I DO hope that VSC is picking up speed again - but if these turn out to be exceptions rather than rules, well, I guess only time will tell that for sure.


Your right, time will tell. Babbles, sorry I hadn't checked the VSC approvals for a couple of days. I'm not sure what's going on at VSC, there's still 94 VSC filers from 2007 still waiting for approval going all the way back to August. Those are the people who are probably spitting nails right now. Now they should probably be calling!!


Yeah totally. Hey and no worries, it was a bit of a weird discussion because stuff got taken out of context a bit (no one's fault) - plus I didn't make myself terribly clear first time around. biggrin.gif
bakofoilFemaleEngland2008-02-27 17:14:00
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QUOTE (BlakeandOlha @ Feb 27 2008, 07:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I like Tbone's approach, if only for the thought that "It's doing something other than sitting around waiting" that can drive us to distraction. There's no way I would call before the end of May, however, it'd just be a waste of my time and the good folks over at CSC - who have better things to focus on like clearing up actual RFE's so those files can be adjudicated (which moves me closer to my goal, after all).


Totally agree with that.

QUOTE (TracyTN @ Feb 27 2008, 01:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
LOL Thanks for clearing that up, BlakeandOhla. Our case went through CSC in 128 days when the VSCers were experiencing 3 week turnarounds as the norm. Sickening!!!

I figured the VSC would slow down some after the new filing rules -- more cases coming in = more time to adjudicate. If there have only been a few quick ones, then I wouldn't think a call using Tbone's suggestions would be warranted for a January filer.

FWIF, if the quick ones had beneficiaries from Cuba, then I'd completely write them off. They are routinely fast through the service center (because they are SLOW at the consulate).

*edited for clarity*


yep, Cuban approvals would not be counted in this instance, nor military expedites. These are 'normal' petitions. But time will tell whether it is the 'norm' at VSC. This is, after all, only the last 5 days.
bakofoilFemaleEngland2008-02-27 15:05:00
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QUOTE (TracyTN @ Feb 27 2008, 07:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (babblesgirl @ Feb 27 2008, 12:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't know whether that's a rhetorical question or not. Smileys confuse things sometimes. So apologies if you meant 'that's a no brainer' or somepin.
The point I was trying to make, if it was in fact confused, was that people are currently reporting between 7 to 28 days between filing and NOA2 without any expedite circumstances. If people start expecting this to be the 'norm' and start badgering USCIS for touches and ultimately approvals then it's gonna get silly.


That wasn't rhetorical - I was VERY surprised to see that. When I look at the processing times on this site, the shortest time I saw was 102 days. So it seemed WAY premature to me for a January filer to already be expecting NOA2. Even if there are several being processed at that clip, I would still not call if I were in that position. Mainly because it'd be rare for ALL cases to experience the same thing.

Are these 'quickies' mainly through one service center, or is it happening at both?


Since the 22nd February, so less than a week, there have been 7 (not a 'couple')january filer approvals reported through VJ. All through VSC and with no expedite circumstances. In my experience (albeit only over the past six months) this is an unprecedented amount of quick approvals given that usually only Cuban or military expedites are seen so quickly.

My point was actually the same as yours, that I wouldn't be calling if I were in that position because I know this to be unusual. When I raised this point originally it was actually in reference to the idea that it was ok to call if you were seeing a number of approvals around your date. Who defines what this 'number' should be. On VJ 7 approvals in 5 days has been significant, therefore one might assume that January filers, unaware of the plight of some July and August filers might think that it is ok to use the RFE line.

So, what if they do? Well, each to their own but the context of my original post was in reference to the comments made by a July filer stuck in AP who finds it difficult to see people expecting their own approvals so soon in the game. I empathise with her, that's all.
bakofoilFemaleEngland2008-02-27 15:00:00
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QUOTE (TracyTN @ Feb 27 2008, 02:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (babblesgirl @ Feb 26 2008, 02:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
They are not processing petitions in the order they are received. People who filed the same day I got my NOA2 are being approved. If that's the marker then it will get really silly. You are asking people to use it reasonably but if I had filed mid-January you can bet I would be wanting my NOA2 now too. Would I use the RFE trick? No, because I've been around here long enough to know the system is unfair and based on a fair amount of luck. I don't begrudge the lucky ones at all, I envy them and wish I had been them. But, I fail to see how calling the RFE line will help change the system. It's not like they feel compelled to make their customers happy.


You would? blink.gif
I don't know whether that's a rhetorical question or not. Smileys confuse things sometimes. So apologies if you meant 'that's a no brainer' or somepin.
The point I was trying to make, if it was in fact confused, was that people are currently reporting between 7 to 28 days between filing and NOA2 without any expedite circumstances. If people start expecting this to be the 'norm' and start badgering USCIS for touches and ultimately approvals then it's gonna get silly.


QUOTE
But I have also seen people here who, once their cases got to the consulate, called the Dept Of State EVERY SINGLE DAY for an update. I honestly do not understand that logic, I'm sorry. The best part was those of us who questioned that logic were called out as insensitive and that we weren't as concerned about our cases as those who called every day were. laughing.gif laughing.gif That had to be one of my most frustrated moments here on VJ. And I'm not sad to say that the main culprit in all of that (and proponent of the 'badger them once daily' routine) is no longer here.

Yes, we all want to know what is going on with our cases - but isn't the definition of insanity doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result? laughing.gif That doesn't apply in this situation, obviously, but I make this point to show you how far this can go down the wormhole. Everything in moderation. Hopefully most folks will remember that.


I agree with this completely. I actually think it can drive you insane calling up that frequently. I know checking the case update online thing drove me bonkers at one point.
bakofoilFemaleEngland2008-02-27 13:42:00
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QUOTE (LaL @ Feb 26 2008, 10:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There wasn't always just 2 service centers processing 129F's. I agree with the fluidity of the system and that this is wholly unnceessary. But to each his own.


I'm aware of that, I was being silly blush.gif
bakofoilFemaleEngland2008-02-26 17:38:00
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QUOTE (mox @ Feb 26 2008, 10:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (babblesgirl @ Feb 26 2008, 02:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My eyes never get past B&J's Cookie dough icecream blush.gif

That's a good one. I like Chunky Monkey too, although Cherry Garcia is my hands-down favorite. It's my favorite ice cream to eat while I'm on hold calling the RFE line. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif


Haha, you're cracking me up tonight. And you can call me 'babs' if you really want to. I was actually just amused when AKDiver started calling me it too.

So what 40 do you wash the cherry garcia down with? These are cultural delicacies I need to learn.
bakofoilFemaleEngland2008-02-26 17:32:00
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My eyes never get past B&J's Cookie dough icecream blush.gif
bakofoilFemaleEngland2008-02-26 17:26:00
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QUOTE (mox @ Feb 26 2008, 10:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (babblesgirl @ Feb 26 2008, 02:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Cherry Garcia! here

Oh LOL!! Cherry Garcia! That's not a drink, it's an ice cream. Now you've gone and sprained my brain, because I remembered talking about cherry something-or-other, and I remember talking about mixed drinks, but I didn't put it together. hehe.


doh! All that talk of washing it down with a 40 made me think it was a drink!
bakofoilFemaleEngland2008-02-26 17:24:00
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Cherry Garcia! here
bakofoilFemaleEngland2008-02-26 17:20:00
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QUOTE (TBoneTX @ Feb 26 2008, 09:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well then, my favorite drink is paint-thinner with a little grenadine.


laughing.gif
bakofoilFemaleEngland2008-02-26 16:57:00
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QUOTE (mox @ Feb 26 2008, 09:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Dangit babblesgirl, I can't for the life of me remember the cherry drink. Were we talking about it in chat, or in a post?

Again agreeing with rebeccajo, the system is way too fluid to set anything in concrete. Criminy, VSC just had a 7 day approval and it wasn't Cuban or an expedite. In the meantime it wasn't that long ago I saw a June filer pop up and meekly ask if there were any other Juners still around.

Dunno. As I said, the system is borked and the RFE trick and others are duct tape and bailing wire. They're jury rigs. And one of the problems with jury rigs is that they resist formalization. Another problem is that they don't always work as expected. TB, this is why I don't think you're ever really going to get a concrete answer about whether your system works or not. Like USCIS, it's just too variable.


Good lord! I completely agree with you.

I think it was in a post.
bakofoilFemaleEngland2008-02-26 16:55:00
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QUOTE (rebeccajo @ Feb 26 2008, 09:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (babblesgirl @ Feb 26 2008, 04:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I notice no mention of CSC being all over the place. It is always slow I take it tongue.gif


When I was processing, it was the fastest after Vermont.


It's still the fastest ..after Vermont.
bakofoilFemaleEngland2008-02-26 16:46:00
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I notice no mention of CSC being all over the place. It is always slow I take it tongue.gif
bakofoilFemaleEngland2008-02-26 16:40:00
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Si man
bakofoilFemaleEngland2008-02-26 16:36:00
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QUOTE (mox @ Feb 26 2008, 09:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So babblesgirl, we meet again. biggrin.gif


Indeed! *raises paws* wink.gif

QUOTE
I know petitions can't be processed in the exact order in which they are received. But when I see November filers being approved while a whole slew of September filers are still waiting, I think it's a reasonable assumption that cases are not being processed as promised.


Aye, but there are also January filers being approved so is it ok for all January filers to call the RFE line and demand their petition gets moved to an adjudicator? We know the system is unfair but how do you get people to be reasonable about that?

I think the problem is not so much using the RFE line, it's advocating the use of the RFE line when those around you are being approved. It's gonna get silly and they'll shut it down then no one will have any opportunity to push their case along - even when it reaches six months and beyond.

Anyway, point made, what was that cherry drink?

QUOTE (L & P @ Feb 26 2008, 09:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi all,

I think it is silly to argue ....all I know is that it make me feel so much better to have been touched....thanks to TBone advise I believe...It does not mean that I will have NOA2 any quicker but at least I had someone looking at my name and the petition...Even if they forget it in a corner now ...We will just call again. I first filed in April 2007 and was told that file was never received, well order was not cash either so I have to believe USCIS....At this point anything helps.

And if Tbone advise can help anyone else to feel better ...it is great !!!

THANK YOU TBONE

rose.gif


TBone is lovely. It's true.
bakofoilFemaleEngland2008-02-26 16:32:00
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QUOTE (TBoneTX @ Feb 26 2008, 09:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Who here can provide some history on the discovery and use of the "RFE 'Trick,'" which was being referred to before I ever joined VJ, let alone stumbled onto the approach recommended in this thread?


I expect RJ is the best to provide some history on that, but I do recall people saying that it was never really worth using until you were close to or outside the current USCIS processing times. I dunno, I think CBR made the best point on this. There are people waiting beyond the accepted timeframe who can do nothing to shake loose their NOA2 no matter how many times they call. I would like to think people are respectful of that.

I also agree with Rebecca on this, that it's a hard ask to get people to be reasonable about using these roundabout methods of speaking to someone who might actually have *some* information on your case, especially given that approvals are all over the calendar right now.
bakofoilFemaleEngland2008-02-26 16:22:00
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QUOTE (mox @ Feb 26 2008, 08:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (rebeccajo @ Feb 26 2008, 12:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't have another suggestion other than try to cultivate patience. Abusing the little bit of access to live officers that are available to help those who TRULY have a problem is not the way to go about resolving 'anxiousness', in my opinion.

Believe it or not, I actually agree with this point. If you filed in February and are calling in March, that's just silly and a waste of time for everyone. And if you are only calling to set your mind at ease, that too is silly and a waste of time. But when you see that USCIS are not processing petitions in the order in which they are received, as they have stated they do, then I think it's time to call.


They are not processing petitions in the order they are received. People who filed the same day I got my NOA2 are being approved. If that's the marker then it will get really silly. You are asking people to use it reasonably but if I had filed mid-January you can bet I would be wanting my NOA2 now too. Would I use the RFE trick? No, because I've been around here long enough to know the system is unfair and based on a fair amount of luck. I don't begrudge the lucky ones at all, I envy them and wish I had been them. But, I fail to see how calling the RFE line will help change the system. It's not like they feel compelled to make their customers happy.
bakofoilFemaleEngland2008-02-26 15:55:00
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QUOTE (CBR @ Feb 26 2008, 07:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I apologize if someone already brought this up but...

I have a real problem with encouraging people (especially within the processing dates) to abuse the RFE line to nag the officers about their case. That line is for people who truly have an RFE and NEED HELP with it. What if all these people who are within processing time and have no valid reason to be calling other than their own impatience get out of hand and the USCIS decides NO MORE!! Or even on a lesser scale... 5 of you call in a row then someone who truly needs their help calls and gets to encounter an annoyed, harassed po'd officer and now they not only have an RFE but have to deal with this irritated uscis officer on top of it. You get my point?

Tbone I love that you want to help people and appreciate that your intent is sincere but for those of us who actually HAVE been waiting too long it's hard to read about ppl waiting 3-4 months calling! I have only called twice in all this time and said basically the same things you suggest here and it didn't work. When it's time it will be time.


I have to agree with every single sentiment laid bare in this post. TB I know you have the most wonderful motivation for coming up with this idea to shake up USCIS and the way it currently operates.

However, as long as there are people on VJ posting approvals after 28 days (lucky them!), given the logic for calling you have stated here, every single filer could call to try and shake free their NOA2 too. The reality is that, for some, it will take 6 months and for others 28 days.

I think CBR is right. One day, if this goes on, they will just stop letting anyone call and RFE's will be handled by post. I used the RFE trick a couple of times and I felt guilty about using it. But my petition was approaching 180 days before I reached the point where I felt justified in calling. I know you will argue that I shouldn't have to justify calling - but I did in fact feel guilty for misusing the line. What if my two calls tipped someone over the edge and they cut the lines altogether? It's a tough one. Seeing others get approved much earlier and not really being able to be proactive about your own case.

Now my case is in London I am finally able to be proactive. Unfortunately, no amount of calling is going to shake CBR's NOA2 out of CSC. sad.gif

eta: that sounded wholly negative and I didn't intend it to. CBR is right, when your time comes it comes.

Edited by babblesgirl, 26 February 2008 - 03:28 PM.

bakofoilFemaleEngland2008-02-26 15:23:00
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QUOTE (Brian & Kathy @ Mar 3 2008, 10:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ahhh, many thanks! I certainly would have never thought checking for a B side.

As for awaiting clearance, I am pretty sure that GUZ doesn't accept the package until they are ready to open it and send P3, and that can be 3 months later. This is really great to know, because I'll be able to see when they finally accept it and are ready to send P3. I'll also be able to check other dates to see how far behind they are.

Brian

QUOTE (babblesgirl @ Mar 3 2008, 04:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Did you check EXP 28 FEB 2008B? There is a shipment to Guangzhou, they usually go on the B pages for some reason. Shipping ref 9356810562 arrived on 2nd march awaiting clearance.



cool, happy to help. Hope it clears in good time!
bakofoilFemaleEngland2008-03-03 17:36:00
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Did you check EXP 28 FEB 2008B? There is a shipment to Guangzhou, they usually go on the B pages for some reason. Shipping ref 9356810562 arrived on 2nd march awaiting clearance.
bakofoilFemaleEngland2008-03-03 17:17:00
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QUOTE (mox @ Mar 3 2008, 08:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (babblesgirl @ Mar 3 2008, 12:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Woohoo! Isn't it all very exciting now? biggrin.gif

You have no idea! Oh wait...yes you do. biggrin.gif

Bonus that there's only 1 DHL package going to Moscow today, so I even know my DHL tracking number. More numbers for me to obsess over is always a good thing. biggrin.gif


The NVC stage was an absolute treat. Knowing exactly (well guessing exactly!(?)) where your petition was in space and time. Wonderful. I remember it fondly.
bakofoilFemaleEngland2008-03-03 15:35:00
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Woohoo! Isn't it all very exciting now? biggrin.gif
bakofoilFemaleEngland2008-03-03 15:31:00
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QUOTE (mox @ Feb 27 2008, 06:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Brian & Kathy @ Feb 27 2008, 10:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey, how did you figure that out?

I called CSC. So I think there's only about a 50% chance that they were telling me the truth. The guy sounded very confident that it had left, but then they're very good at sounding confident even when I know for sure that they're wrong. I'll call NVC on Monday to see if it arrived, but I won't be holding my breath any.


You will be oh so pleasantly surprised when it's NVC you're dealing with and not CSC.

However, I registered my change of address with NVC and then phoned back a couple of days letter to check they had the right one and Packet 3 was still sent to my old address - delaying things by yet another few days *grumpy face*. That could be the embassy just reading off the original petition though.

NVC are nice peeps tho.
bakofoilFemaleEngland2008-02-27 13:48:00
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QUOTE (Slightly Bonkers @ Feb 19 2008, 08:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It was my cache! Darn Firefox!
Hee hee ... just spent the past 5 days looking at exactly the same information
And not just at home either! Managed to do it at work too!

And I have a degree in this #######!

Ah well now I can concentrate all my energy on my local postman!

Thanks again guys!


Haha, I did precisely the same thing when I was looking for mine. Took me a while to work out refreshing the page doesn't cut it.

I'm hoping things work out with my fiance but if not then I'll bear your proposal in mind tongue.gif
bakofoilFemaleEngland2008-02-19 16:05:00
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and no Packet 3 just goes to the beneficiary. The petitioner is redundant by this stage, assuming you got the financial stuff sorted tongue.gif
bakofoilFemaleEngland2008-02-19 15:37:00
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and for ladynoles:

9356808296 Portsmouth, NH - USA Montreal Downtown - Canada Shipment information received as of: February 19, 2008 14:17

EXP 15 FEB 2008A
bakofoilFemaleEngland2008-02-19 15:35:00
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8195061361 Portsmouth, NH - USA Dublin - Ireland, Republic Of Shipment information received as of: February 19, 2008 14:13
EXP 15 FEB 2008A

QUOTE (Igor&Elina @ Feb 19 2008, 08:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (babblesgirl @ Feb 19 2008, 12:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was thinking today's shipments would have yesterday's date as the EXP. I'm not sure though. I know mine was sent out on the 14th and had EXP 13 FEB 2008A. I could be wrong though.

I think the EXP date is the date NVC tells you they shipped it (when they generated the shipping label). Most of the time I think they get physically shipped (picked up) by DHL the next working day. We are all just guessing about all this though wink.gif


Yep. There's a lot of conjecture here. But it looks like you're right! I expect the next shipper's ref is going to be EXP 19 FEB 2008A. I'll put a quid on it tongue.gif
bakofoilFemaleEngland2008-02-19 15:32:00
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QUOTE (Igor&Elina @ Feb 19 2008, 08:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Slightly Bonkers @ Feb 19 2008, 12:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ok I'm obviously having a blonde moment....

I can't see any shipments after 14th February
I can see ones before that ... so I thought I knew how to search
But if I put in EXP 15 FEB 2008A or EXP 18 FEB 2008A etc
I'm getting no shipments.
Is that me being stupid or have there been no shipments?

I see quite a few listed with the ref # of EXP 15 FEB 2008A
None with EXP 18 FEB 2008A, but that's to be expected, the 18th was a holiday.

You could also try EXP 15 FEB 2008B


I was thinking today's shipments would have yesterday's date as the EXP. I'm not sure though. I know mine was sent out on the 14th and had EXP 13 FEB 2008A. I could be wrong though.

Edited by babblesgirl, 19 February 2008 - 03:26 PM.

bakofoilFemaleEngland2008-02-19 15:26:00
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QUOTE (Slightly Bonkers @ Feb 19 2008, 08:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ok I'm obviously having a blonde moment....

I can't see any shipments after 14th February
I can see ones before that ... so I thought I knew how to search
But if I put in EXP 15 FEB 2008A or EXP 18 FEB 2008A etc
I'm getting no shipments.
Is that me being stupid or have there been no shipments?


You'll see something later tonight. No shipping at weekends and yesterday was a federal holiday. So you need to try EXP 18 FEB 2008A after 4pm EST.

Hope there's one bound for Dublin. It's quite exciting when you see one that could contain yours smile.gif
bakofoilFemaleEngland2008-02-19 15:21:00