Forum	Title	Content	Member	Sex	Country	Date/Time
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	Waiting for a NOA2 from CSC for your I-129F?	The unibrow looks better with the one eye. I did you a favour!	bakofoil	Female	England	2008-01-27 13:18:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	Waiting for a NOA2 from CSC for your I-129F?	QUOTE (StillThePrettiest @ Jan 27 2008, 05:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> *shows up with eye-patch* Mox should never have laughed! I blame him	bakofoil	Female	England	2008-01-27 12:57:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	Waiting for a NOA2 from CSC for your I-129F?	QUOTE (Eli the Barrowboy @ Jan 27 2008, 05:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thanks Guys, Nah I'm not gonna delay the wedding for cash and career - I'd rather be broke and happy than rich and pissed off ... Advance Parole - it makes people sound so untrustworthy!!! Going back to ireland for Christmas will be out too then ... lol. R Well you could be there much earlier if CSC keeps up the momentum. If you're staying until October anyway - then another month might not make that much difference especially as there might be a period of time when you cannot work once you're there. The more money you have to take with you the less stress you're going to feel when you can't earn. That's just one pov tho. I prolly would bite the bullet and just go too if it were me.	bakofoil	Female	England	2008-01-27 12:46:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	Waiting for a NOA2 from CSC for your I-129F?	QUOTE (mox @ Jan 27 2008, 05:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (babblesgirl @ Jan 27 2008, 09:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (mox @ Jan 27 2008, 05:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thanks for the list again StP! Igor's may be less time-consuming and give instant gratification, but yours shows me higher (83 vs 90). If I concentrate really hard I think I can get CSC to go by your list. No! The reason your petition is in a more favourable position on StP's list is cos you got your NOA1 before me...and a few others who got chucked in the back of a semi-truck for two months back in the summer. You included the $100 "processing gratuity" with your file, didn't you? ... Oh dear. You forgot to include the $100 "processing gratuity," didn't you? Tsk tsk. QUOTE *pokes StP's list in the eye accidentally* LMAO!! Thanks for almost causing me to spray hot coffee through my nose. That was funny. Doh! I thought a packet of biccies would suffice. I'm a cheapskate. Luckily, I know StP will have a similar reaction if she sees that post.	bakofoil	Female	England	2008-01-27 12:37:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	Waiting for a NOA2 from CSC for your I-129F?	QUOTE (Eli the Barrowboy @ Jan 27 2008, 05:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> See what you guys think - I just posted this in the K-1 section too but would like your thoughts!!! I've been offered a new contract in the UK up until November which is a great opportunity career wise and it's DOUBLE the pay I recieve now. The problem is it's a contract until November and we get married in October (provided we get our visa). Can I take the job, go to the USA for our wedding then come back to the UK and finish the contract and then depart for the US full time? I know there are rules about this but I'm not clear if they make an exceoption for things like work etc. And no, I can't start the job and then leave in October - it's a project one would have to see out to the bitter end!!! It's over to you guys. R Have you booked the wedding? If not, then delay entering the US until November. You can enter the US and not use the visa (I think) but if you plan on getting married whilst you there it will have to be an unofficial ceremony since you cannot leave the US following a legal wedding until you have Advanced Parole which you file for with AOS. Leaving the US before you get AP would mean you gave up the visa process and you would then have to apply for K3. Please correct me if I am wrong guys.	bakofoil	Female	England	2008-01-27 12:35:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	Waiting for a NOA2 from CSC for your I-129F?	QUOTE (mox @ Jan 27 2008, 05:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thanks for the list again StP! Igor's may be less time-consuming and give instant gratification, but yours shows me higher (83 vs 90). If I concentrate really hard I think I can get CSC to go by your list. No! The reason your petition is in a more favourable position on StP's list is cos you got your NOA1 before me...and a few others who got chucked in the back of a semi-truck for two months back in the summer. *likes Igor's list* *pokes StP's list in the eye accidentally*	bakofoil	Female	England	2008-01-27 12:29:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	Waiting for a NOA2 from CSC for your I-129F?	QUOTE (StillThePrettiest @ Jan 27 2008, 02:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> before anyone gets excited (or befuddled) by the fact that the waiting list has gotten shorter by a larger number than those who have received NOA2s, I finally bit the bullet and removed anyone who was still showing as going through Nebraska or Texas... no one has shown an NOA2 from those centres for MONTHS, and face it: it's simply incorrect; if people can't show the right service centre in their timeline, then they don't deserve to be on the list Welcome back! Your post made me chuckle and I'm not going to argue about the pre- 30th July filers who will have filed through Nebraska and Texas. I presume they all got moved to either CSC or VSC anyway and people should have updated their timelines accordingly	bakofoil	Female	England	2008-01-27 09:44:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	Waiting for a NOA2 from CSC for your I-129F?	QUOTE (Melrose Plant @ Jan 27 2008, 01:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> By the way, I received my email at 12:30 in the morning, so that would be 10:30 p.m. at CSC. However, I'm sure that's the automated system working overtime. But then, a real person DOES have to input that information. Anyway, I thought it was odd I received the notice at that hour. Don't give up hope! Approval may come in the middle of the night, apparently. Thanks for posting this information. It's useful to know how and when people receive notification of approval. Makes checking the case update site seem more fruitful Congrats on your approval!	bakofoil	Female	England	2008-01-27 08:54:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	Waiting for a NOA2 from CSC for your I-129F?	QUOTE (Jeraly @ Jan 26 2008, 05:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> This might not be much comfort but... When Jeremy and I applied and when we found out about the backlog/CSC mess we were thinking I wasn't going to get approved until about March/April. Once NVC got my case (a month after the approval) everything has moved so fast it is feasible that we could have made our original wedding date (decided not to chance it though). Thing is we allowed ourselves 6-7 months. It took 5 months to get NOA2. So we figured it would be another 3 months to get the visa (based on the 6 month for the whole process, 90 days for NOA2 theory). Even with the huge delay, it still works out that we could have gone through the whole process in about 6-7 months (had we decided to go for it and get packet 3 ready to send of as soon as we had the LON number) So even if you get your NOA2 late - it might not really throw things out all that much Keep the faith *hugs* Thanks Aly. I had wondered about whether you could have made your original wedding date with the way things have gone. I think you made the right decision though. I think it would have been far too stressful trying to make everything fit into the jigsaw in time. Too many unknowns. You get to have so many celebrations of your wedding now I'm sure that when you look back in years to come you might even feel grateful you had the opportunity to share the experience with so many people. It's really quite an exciting and unusual means of doing things - and shows both yours and Jeremy's commitment to being together for the long haul! I, on the other hand, was so relaxed about the process after that initial NOA1 worry that I've basically been plodding along thinking that I could basically go whenever it's ready, thinking that end of March/early April was plenty of time to have it all in the bag (well that would be 9 months I allowed)- until now that is! The past few weeks I've been really fretting about what I'm going to do for work when my current job ends and how long exactly i'm going to need one beyond that date. Mostly though, I'm just starting to feel dissatisfied with this temporary state of being. It's weird how when you're waiting for NOA2 you have a time in mind (usually around the 5 month mark is reasonably safe) and so you know when you're within that time not to really expect anything. When it goes beyond 5 months it begins to get stressful, beyond six months the timeline is shot to pieces and you feel like you can't trust or believe in the process anymore. The people getting NOA2 in 3 months - I'm not sure I would have been prepared for a quick turn around like that. Yes, I want to be with Jesse as soon as I can but there are a lot of practical issues to consider. For me, six months down the road, the practical considerations are long sorted and I just want to have the next hurdle of this race in sight. NOA2 - NVC I don't care if it takes a month I just want to be inside the timeframe again. Hope that makes sense.	bakofoil	Female	England	2008-01-26 13:07:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	Waiting for a NOA2 from CSC for your I-129F?	QUOTE (mox @ Jan 26 2008, 05:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If you ever lose a column, look at the top of the list where it says "enable advanced mode." Click that link and you'll get your columns back. Hang in there kiddo, it's just around the corner! I can enable advanced mode and twiddle around hiding columns I don't want etc. The problem is, when I do that it mixes up the data and I end up with K1's from 2003 instead of the last 20 approvals Which is usually when I throw my teddy out of the cot and moan to you Thanks for the encouragement! I'm sure it will be very soon too	bakofoil	Female	England	2008-01-26 12:51:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	Waiting for a NOA2 from CSC for your I-129F?	Thanks both for your replies. I keep checking Igor's list - it is very very good and saves checking around the forums. Though StP gave me a link to the VJ search results she used when she was updating manually and that was good too - except for the fact it refused to show sent date and that always irritated me. Which is why I like Igor's list. No offence StP - it was a VJ glitch. By the way, where is she? I miss her. Ah well, another couple of weeks isn't anything really. I have to tell myself that because it's is really becoming stressful now. Basically because of the work situation I have here. I had given CSC their six months and allowed another couple of months for interview thinking that would be sufficient. It's so hard watching later approvals even though I am happy for them. Selfishly I want it to be ours too. I suppose it was the first time in a while I had felt a real sense of hope when I saw Jon and Mary's approval.	bakofoil	Female	England	2008-01-26 12:35:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	Waiting for a NOA2 from CSC for your I-129F?	Are people hearing by post or online status? I'd like to know because I keep checking the online thing and it just feels so disappointing. When Jon and Mary got approved yesterday I felt so hopeful because they received a notice the same day as me and I have a feeling that the packets were together even though they filed later because mine was delayed in the post until 15th August. I thought I was lucky that CSC honoured the postmark on my packet rather than the physical receipt. Anyway, I had hoped that their packet and mine were very close together and still nothing Sorry for rambling. I'm glad to see CSC make a decent start on August filers. Congrats to those who've been approved	bakofoil	Female	England	2008-01-26 12:13:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	Waiting for a NOA2 from CSC for your I-129F?	Congratulations!	bakofoil	Female	England	2008-01-25 11:55:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	Waiting for a NOA2 from CSC for your I-129F?	QUOTE (Igor&Elina @ Jan 25 2008, 12:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> More like crawling, just a little bit. *sigh* at least it's something. Must give the August filers a little hope at least.	bakofoil	Female	England	2008-01-24 19:33:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	I also got NOA2 yesterday	QUOTE (jmosborn @ May 3 2008, 09:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> They are approving big chunks of December filers the last two days at CSC. 133 days to approval isn't too bad, considering I was expecting at least 6 months. I couldn't believe it when I saw the email! This is a good sign for everybody. I wish you all quick approvals! Congrats to you.. Same we never expect we got our NOA2 may 1, 2008. I hope everything goes well next..Looking forward for another progress. Were also december filler. Im looking here same as ours for me to have friend joining during medical and interview. Pls keep in touch. Thanks	pauliza	Female	Philippines	2008-05-03 09:33:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	NOA2 by email!!!!	QUOTE (jego ryu @ May 3 2008, 04:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> wow congrats....touched is really a good sign ,,,,,god bless ,,go csc........ Hi, were same.We been receive email last may 1, 2008 that our application has been approved. Are we same december fillers right?Maybe same ta ug timeline. Im just new here thats why i dont know yet the pasikot-sikot dito. If you are pls keep on touch with me.I already put here how to contact me. Thanks and im looking forward for your reply.	pauliza	Female	Philippines	2008-05-03 09:39:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	Thanks God we finally got our NOA2!!!!	QUOTE (jego ryu @ May 15 2008, 12:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> hi!pauliza i notice we got approved same date......i have mnla case no.already.....hope you get yours soon ...goodluck and godbless.... thanks for the message. I dont have manila case # yet. Are they just send you notice for that?Or where we get that manila case #?Or they just send it to your fiance?Pls let me know coz i never got mine. Pls text me with this # 09092470405. Thanks and thanks .Looking forward for your text.	pauliza	Female	Philippines	2008-05-17 22:57:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	Thanks God we finally got our NOA2!!!!	QUOTE (smiley84 @ May 15 2008, 11:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (pauliza @ May 4 2008, 09:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thank you so much!!!!!!!!!! Hi Pauliza , Did your bana already call the NVC? If so what did they say? Thnx, Pauljoy Hi Joy, Yes he call last monday morning the NVC, mao lage gihapon, magwait 2-4 weeks. Makadawat ra ug unformation if na forward na sa consulate. Infact makadawat man gihapon packet. Wait lang mi oi ana. MO abot ra bitaw na. If naa na sa manila sige man ko tawag para mag inform sa status. Basin soon ila na ma forward. How about sa inyoha?	pauliza	Female	Philippines	2008-05-14 23:48:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	Thanks God we finally got our NOA2!!!!	Thank you so much!!!!!!!!!!	pauliza	Female	Philippines	2008-05-04 09:38:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	Thanks God we finally got our NOA2!!!!	QUOTE (KandI_usa @ May 4 2008, 12:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Congrats.....Im early Decemeber filer, i wonder whats going on with my paper now.......Congrats again....im happy for you.... Thanks...No worries you will get good news soon. Same on us were been waiting for this so long but finally we got it. My fiance always told me to have patience. So just have patience and soon your turn, who knows someday soon. QUOTE (debbylyn @ May 4 2008, 12:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> congrats! Thank you so much!!!!!!!!	pauliza	Female	Philippines	2008-05-03 11:56:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	Thanks God we finally got our NOA2!!!!	QUOTE (Mark and Hannah @ May 3 2008, 11:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Congratulations!!! Goodluck for both of you too. Were very happy as well. Congrats too!!!	pauliza	Female	Philippines	2008-05-03 11:51:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	Thanks God we finally got our NOA2!!!!	QUOTE (~Laura and Nick~ @ May 3 2008, 10:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That's fantastic! Many congratulations to you! THank you. You too. Wish you luck as well. Keep in touch. QUOTE (gabrielle08 @ May 3 2008, 11:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (pauliza @ May 3 2008, 10:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hi everyone for months of waiting we finally got our NOA2 last may 1, 2008. My fiance received it by email and he forwarded to me. Were so very happy that finally God is so good we got it. I hope some people here that has same timeline with us pls keep in touch. Event Date Service Center : California Service Center Consulate : Manilla, Philipines I-129F Sent : 2007-12-24 I-129F NOA1 : 2008-01-03 I-129F NOA2 : 2008-04-01 Another weeks to wait for us. Hopefully by soon another progress of our application. We wish congrats to all the applicants who recieved their NOA2 finally. And to those who have same timeline with us pls do keep on touch. I put here my email add for you to contact me. Looking forward for the reply and emails. Thanks and God Bless Us All!!! wow!..Thank's God'' Congratulations!!! Oh thank you so much.	pauliza	Female	Philippines	2008-05-03 10:05:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	Thanks God we finally got our NOA2!!!!	QUOTE (Rimma&Vadim @ May 3 2008, 10:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (pauliza @ May 3 2008, 09:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hi everyone for months of waiting we finally got our NOA2 last may 1, 2008. My fiance received it by email and he forwarded to me. Were so very happy that finally God is so good we got it. I hope some people here that has same timeline with us pls keep in touch. Event Date Service Center : California Service Center Consulate : Manilla, Philipines I-129F Sent : 2007-12-24 I-129F NOA1 : 2008-01-03 I-129F NOA2 : 2008-04-01 Another weeks to wait for us. Hopefully by soon another progress of our application. We wish congrats to all the applicants who recieved their NOA2 finally. And to those who have same timeline with us pls do keep on touch. I put here my email add for you to contact me. Looking forward for the reply and emails. Thanks and God Bless Us All!!! WOWwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww great i'm so happy for YOU That's a great news thnk's GOD!!!!!!!!!!!! Yes, thanks for that. Were very happy. Were been waiting for this for so long.	pauliza	Female	Philippines	2008-05-03 10:02:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	Thanks God we finally got our NOA2!!!!	Hi everyone for months of waiting we finally got our NOA2 last may 1, 2008. My fiance received it by email and he forwarded to me. Were so very happy that finally God is so good we got it. I hope some people here that has same timeline with us pls keep in touch. Event Date Service Center : California Service Center Consulate : Manilla, Philipines I-129F Sent : 2007-12-24 I-129F NOA1 : 2008-01-03 I-129F NOA2 : 2008-04-01 Another weeks to wait for us. Hopefully by soon another progress of our application. We wish congrats to all the applicants who recieved their NOA2 finally. And to those who have same timeline with us pls do keep on touch. I put here my email add for you to contact me. Looking forward for the reply and emails. Thanks and God Bless Us All!!!	pauliza	Female	Philippines	2008-05-03 09:56:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	ATTENTION JULY FILERS!	QUOTE (Bill y Bella @ Sep 13 2007, 11:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (babblesgirl @ Sep 13 2007, 06:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Bill y Bella @ Sep 13 2007, 08:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (babblesgirl @ Sep 13 2007, 02:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Jeraly @ Sep 13 2007, 07:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (babblesgirl @ Sep 13 2007, 06:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I hadn't thought about it until now, but the spreadsheet for July filers (which is brilliant, by the way) includes some 30th and 31st July applicants. I have no idea whether these are receipt dates and therefore whether they are old fee or new fee applicants. I think we agreed to use the dates on the NOA1 hard copies but then again... who knows - it isn't regulated so In that case I'm not a July filer. Not even a September filer at this stage As founder of this thread I do hereby declare that you are a July Forum Filer! You started the process the same month as everyone else and you are one of us. Remember our pledge: For faster, for slower, for RFE or none.... We will not cast you aside because of USCIS screwups! You are an official July Forum Filer and we are glad to have you! Thanks Bill y Bella, I've been feeling pretty down today about the lack of action on my application, so i'm grateful for the encouragement. I am basically going to be set back to September filing status though unless I get pushed into an August box when they realise how long my application has been sitting there. Wishful thinking They note the received date on the NOA1 and many, including zoomer believe that is the date that USCIS uses for prioritizing petitions and starting the 6 month clock. If that is the case you will be grouped with other pettions received in the middle of August. August is a real light month so far so you may not have lost as much time as you are thinking. Ah, I found that information: USCIS will honor the actual date that an application was received in our mailroom; this date will be indicated on the receipt (in the Received Date box) when Form I-797, Notice of Action, is mailed. Until this situation is resolved, USCIS will provide these weekly updates on progress in issuing receipt notices to our customers. We appreciate your understanding. As of September 7, 2007, USCIS has completed data entry and issued receipt notices for applications and petitions received on or before the dates indicated: California Service Center Form Number Date Received I-130 8/07/2007 N-400 7/24/2007 All Other Forms 8/28/2007 I'm relieved they are honouring the received date at least, but if they have issued receipt notices for forms received before 28th August then my check should have been cashed by now.	bakofoil	Female	England	2007-09-13 18:41:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	ATTENTION JULY FILERS!	QUOTE (Bill y Bella @ Sep 13 2007, 08:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (babblesgirl @ Sep 13 2007, 02:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Jeraly @ Sep 13 2007, 07:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (babblesgirl @ Sep 13 2007, 06:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I hadn't thought about it until now, but the spreadsheet for July filers (which is brilliant, by the way) includes some 30th and 31st July applicants. I have no idea whether these are receipt dates and therefore whether they are old fee or new fee applicants. I think we agreed to use the dates on the NOA1 hard copies but then again... who knows - it isn't regulated so In that case I'm not a July filer. Not even a September filer at this stage As founder of this thread I do hereby declare that you are a July Forum Filer! You started the process the same month as everyone else and you are one of us. Remember our pledge: For faster, for slower, for RFE or none.... We will not cast you aside because of USCIS screwups! You are an official July Forum Filer and we are glad to have you! Thanks Bill y Bella, I've been feeling pretty down today about the lack of action on my application, so i'm grateful for the encouragement. I am basically going to be set back to September filing status though unless I get pushed into an August box when they realise how long my application has been sitting there. Wishful thinking	bakofoil	Female	England	2007-09-13 17:32:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	ATTENTION JULY FILERS!	QUOTE (Jeraly @ Sep 13 2007, 07:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (babblesgirl @ Sep 13 2007, 06:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I hadn't thought about it until now, but the spreadsheet for July filers (which is brilliant, by the way) includes some 30th and 31st July applicants. I have no idea whether these are receipt dates and therefore whether they are old fee or new fee applicants. I think we agreed to use the dates on the NOA1 hard copies but then again... who knows - it isn't regulated so In that case I'm not a July filer. Not even a September filer at this stage	bakofoil	Female	England	2007-09-13 13:58:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	ATTENTION JULY FILERS!	QUOTE (Bill y Bella @ Sep 13 2007, 05:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (weedebz @ Sep 13 2007, 10:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Going to throw my hat in the ring....I work as part-time event and services organiser for a law firm...now it's a scottish law firm that doesn't deal in immigration but I let one of the partners read the postmark argument. They say the wording goes along billy's description. "otherwise filed" means delivered by means other than postal service. So if they are being returned witha postmark before 30th, someone in their mailroom either has a serious grudge against immigration or they didn't get the memo! Always good to find a way to get a free legal opinion. I just checked the July Filer's spread sheet for the first time in a long time. Looks great but it seems the participation rate is low. There are 210 K1 petitions that were mailed in July and we only have about 57 petitions on the spread sheet. In order to make this spreadsheet as valuable as possible we need to try to maximize the participation rate. One of the reasons that the CSC & VSC threads by bszoom are so popular is that people know they can go there and instantly see how their progress compares with everyone else. I have a couple of suggestions for the group to consider. 1. Freeze the frames so that the heading line is always showing. I know each user can do it themselves but I'm not sure if everyone will realize this. It gets a little confusing when the heading line srolls off the screen. I think if the editor freezes the heading rows that will be the default view for all users, but I'm not positive about that. 2. Add a column for date sent. It would be interesting to see how long some people had to wait for their NOA1's. By the way, VSC is currently projecting adjudication dates based on date sent I think. 3. Delete some of the columns that are not being used yet to make the width of the spreadsheet as narrow as possible. This will allow users to see the data at one glance which is always nice. We can add the other columns back in when they are needed. 4. "Allow" access to anyone who mailed / shipped their petition during July. That was the original intent when the thread (not the spreadsheet) was started because at that time getting the package in the mail was the step we were all focussing on. If we wind up with some people on the spread sheet who received NOA1's in August I do not see the harm. It will be helpful for those that filed toward the end of the month to see what is happening to others who did the same. 5. Make the spread sheet open access. I know there is a risk of someone messing things up, but it should be fairly easy for the moderators to repair things if necessary. I think the advantage of more entries and greater participation outweigh the risk. It may also be possible to keep the design elements locked but allow users to enter data. My guess is that a lot of users who hesitate to send you a PM would go ahead and enter their data in the spreadsheet if they could. You could make a copy of the spreadsheet before you made it open access so you could restore the old one if the experiment was a total disaster. 6. Consider splitting the K1 page into VSC K1 & CSC K1 pages. This will eliminate the need for users to add rows etc. They could just add their data on the bottom row and then you could sort the spreadsheet periodically if it will not do it automatically. You could also go ahead and copy your formulas in the entire column so that they are there ready to go if someone enters data on the line. In excel one can make the formula invisible until there is data for the formula to use. I'm not sure if that works with edit grid or not. 7. Make a periodic announcement with a link in the forum about updates, current number of petitions etc to prompt people to go take a look at the spreadsheet. I noticed that since we put the spreadsheet on another site there have been very few comments about it. The links in our signatures are not as effective at driving traffic as an actual post. My guess is that to certain extent the spreadsheet has been forgotten about. I know that I very seldom look at it anymore. I thought there was tremendous interest in the spreadsheet when it was shown within the thread. It was great to have the data and the opportunity to interact all in one place. The only problem was that people kept adding data to old versions and that was a real pain. I think that having it on editgrid and having open access might be the best solution. If you like, I would be glad to help with the cleanup and maintenance. Thanks for listening! All of this sounds great if it is practically possible. It would definitely be useful to highlight the issue of submission and receipt dates and see some progress on check processing/NOA1s and then see how that affects NOA2's as time progresses. The spreadsheet will be incredibly useful in time. I am willing to help in any way I can. Also, those who end up with returned packages can have some basis for comparison along with advice on how to deal with that issue should it occur. I wonder whether receipt of NOA1 makes people rest for a while on these forums since they are not expecting contact on their application for a couple of months or so after. it might also be a good idea to subforum a couple of issues, then the traffic is not so heavy on one forum that pages of useful info are not lost within a more generalised forum. There are 73 pages on this forum and I wonder whether those who may only check the forums weekly would bother to read maybe a dozen pages of posts since their last visit. Perhaps, missing a request for information that may be of use to all of us. Just an idea	bakofoil	Female	England	2007-09-13 12:05:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	ATTENTION JULY FILERS!	If there is so much disagreement between us over the definition of the wording it is no wonder that USCIS staff are dealing with applications differently. Those who are getting petitions returned need clarification on this, nonetheless, so thanks to those of you who are providing advice on how to interpret this. I personally don't see the ambiguity in the wording at all although 'otherwise' should perhaps have been made more transparent. It has to be postmarked by US Mail or proof provided of an alternative delivery method before the 30th July. Delivery on the 30th July or later should not discount an application from the old fee schedule provided there is proof that the petition was submitted to an official intermediate body before that date. It would be useful to hear firsthand from anyone submitting under the old fee schedule who has experience of this, i.e. had an application returned or received NOA1 or had their check cashed with a delivery date on or after the 30th July.	bakofoil	Female	England	2007-09-13 10:33:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	ATTENTION JULY FILERS!	It would be handy to have fields in our timelines which indicate application postmarking, receipt, date of check cashing and receipt of NOA1. Some people are not receiving NOA1's although their checks have been cashed and I believe that the date the check is cashed is basically when the NOA1 is triggered anyway. I hadn't thought about it until now, but the spreadsheet for July filers (which is brilliant, by the way) includes some 30th and 31st July applicants. I have no idea whether these are receipt dates and therefore whether they are old fee or new fee applicants. I may have seen their dates and assumed that they submitted the old fee and had their checks cashed mid-august. This had given me hope given the status of my application. I have, however, seen a couple of people who mailed their petitions after 26th July who have already received NOA1's but have no indication of when their packets were received.	bakofoil	Female	England	2007-09-13 00:16:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	ATTENTION JULY FILERS!	QUOTE (Bill y Bella @ Sep 13 2007, 05:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (chris4gretchen @ Sep 12 2007, 11:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> youre splitting the statement at the wrong place. applications postmarked on or after july 30th OR otherwise filed on. you also are taking the otherwise filed on to mean postal delivery. thats not what they mean either. they dont even mean when they sign for it. Otherwise filed on means filed into their system. their statement clearly reads in legal terms if your post mark is on or after july 30th OR if USCIS files your petition ON or after july 30th then the new fee increase applys. Doesnt say anywhere if your postmark is before july 30th then its good. Chris Clearly reads in legal terms? Here is the original clause: Applications or petitions postmarked or otherwise filed on or after that date must include the new fee. According to my dictionary otherwise when used as an adverb means 1. in another way; differently 2. under other circumstances 3. In other respects. Now substitute any of those terms for otherwise: a. Applications or petitions postmarked or in another way filed on or after that date must include the new fee. b. Applications or petitions postmarked or differently filed on or after that date must include the new fee. c. Applications or petitions postmarked or under other circumstances filed on or after that date must include the new fee. d. Applications or petitions postmarked or in other respects filed on or after that date must include the new fee. None of them is even close to your interpretation which if I understand it correctly is: Applications or petitions postmarked or filed into the USCIS system on or after that date must include the new fee. Sorry. I just can't agree with you. And evidence of some contract employees rejecting applications and petitions is not proof that they or USCIS is correct. I am not an attorney or an even an english major but I think I have a real good idea what the clause in question means. If USCIS wanted to say that all petitions and applications had to be received into their system before 7/30 than they should have said exactly that and never mentioned a postmark. To anyone who knows: I had assumed there are also applications and petitions that were postmarked prior to 7/30 but received on 7/30 or after that were accepted with the old fees. Am I wrong? Yes, I have seen a few applicants receive NOA1's for petitions received on or after 7/30. Including some who had applications delivered as late as mine. It is merely my opinion but I don't feel there's any issue with the returns that have occurred, other than the time and hassle involved in disputing the reasoning. Edited by babblesgirl, 12 September 2007 - 11:50 PM.	bakofoil	Female	England	2007-09-12 23:48:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	ATTENTION JULY FILERS!	QUOTE (chris4gretchen @ Sep 13 2007, 05:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> actually the basis on this is from other topics where the received date and the signed date and the mailed date was bandied around with people trying to figure out what was the received date from the service centers to start the 6 month coutndown to knwo if you were overdue. in those discussions a number of posts were on USCIS and its method for filing dates and postmarks and signed for dates etc. USCIS in those topics didnt pay any attention to postmarked dates, signed for dates etc. they only recognized the received date that the service center put the petition in to the system and filed it. nad htats what they put on the NOA1 and that was what was official. of course i am NOT a lawyer but seems evident to me the same still applies here. especially when it reads clearly how i explained it. also is the fact that the petitions were RETURNED. i'd say CSC understands the statement the same way i read it. you know what , i hope im wrong. and i think you should recommend that all these people resubmit with the old fee and a letter explaining the USCIS " mistake" that they just made. Im sure USCIS will certainly agree that postmarks should be taken into account and they hopefully will expedite all these petitions they have erroneously returned. honestly i feel bad for everyone that got returned. i wish none did. but i think my reading of the statement matches CSC's and USCIS's intent. if it didnt, then we wouldnt even have this topic would we??? and i would be the first to agree i would love to be on shakey ground on this. you guys are puuting as much faith into otherwise filed on as meaning fedex, as i am putting it to mean filed into their system. id say we were equal. the 2 year rule is a seperate problem in itself. i have no answer on that one. maybe they would let it slide since its days youre talking about. Chris I agree 'otherwise filed' is not specific. I wish there was more clarification and instruction from USCIS than there is currently. I was at a loss with this procedure before finding visajourney and being able to benefit from these kinds of discussions. Experience, in this scenario, is so valuable in any bureaucratic procedure. I am glad we are able to tap one another for information and discuss and disagree sometimes. I know that all of us wish the best for each other and are just trying to help make sense of an overcomplicated system	bakofoil	Female	England	2007-09-12 23:18:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	ATTENTION JULY FILERS!	QUOTE (Bill y Bella @ Sep 13 2007, 04:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ....If the petition had to be officially received before July 30th to avoid the new fees, why is postmark mentioned at all? If the requirement is as you are describing the postmark would be irrelevant. Thanks for your input Bill y Bella. I think you are absolutely correct on this. The mention of a postmark has to be relevant otherwise they would have stated 'received by a USCIS officer' or even 'filed within the USCIS system' on or after 30th July 2007. There are many people who are facing filing issues (or prospective issues) associated with the USCIS fee schedule increase and it is important that 'we' are equipped with correct and relevant information to deal with any issues presented as a result of this deadline. It is unfortunate that the fee increases have created an overwhelming of the system and we have to acknowledge that this is bound to produce processing errors. I imagine it has been stressful working at one of the service centers this past month or so. We knew when we submitted that we would probably face a larger time delay than normal and that is the sole reason I am trying my best to remain patient and equip myself with relevant knowledge so that I can deal with any resulting issue, including the possible return of our application. I agree also that in Kaush's case resubmitting the application with the new fee at this stage is possibly going to create the unnecessary risk of RFE or denial over the two year meeting requirement. Their case is not straightforward. I am at least fortunate that I am merely facing a time delay along with most others who have filed recently. I also wonder how all of this has affected those who filed months ago and have been awaiting approval during this time.	bakofoil	Female	England	2007-09-12 23:11:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	ATTENTION JULY FILERS!	QUOTE (kaush @ Sep 13 2007, 04:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (babblesgirl @ Sep 12 2007, 11:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (kaush @ Sep 13 2007, 04:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (thejoz @ Sep 12 2007, 10:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm more intrigued about this 'two year rule'. What is that? I-129F application instructions state that " You and your fiancé(e) intend to marry within 90 days ofyour fiancé(e) entering the United States, and are both freeto marry, and have met in person within two years before your filing of this petition " kaush, this is a supplementary reason why, in your case, it might be best to appeal their request for the new fee schedule. If you resubmit with the new fee then you are prospectively facing an RFE over the timing of your last visit with each other. Your previous application was within the requirements for application. I do not wish to mislead you in any way. I am simply offering an opinion. Perhaps, you could make an appointment with an immigration lawyer before taking any decision on this matter given your circumstances. I wish you the best of luck. Thanks babblesgirl. Consulting an immigration lawyer is probably a good idea. We are considering one of the following two options: 1) Appeal their fee request right now, await a delay with the possibility of being overruled and having to resubmit everything again at a much later date than now. 2) Go ahead and resubmit the petition with the new fee and hope for an approval or wait for a possible RFE (or rejection). Basically just give them what they want without running the risk of having them put our file away (with the many who will be appealing) and deal with it if they send an RFE. Either way we are in a pickle. It is clear on our packet that someone went through everything, marked dates on several papers and then decided to send it back. In any case, I just emailed an immigration lawyer for advice. Lets see how soon we get out of this. I wish you good luck too with your application. Hopefully yours will be a little more smoother than ours! Good luck! Yeah, I was reading on some other website that people in this position were considering resubmitting with the new fee but making a separate appeal to obtain a refund. There is also some mention of contacting a USCIS ombudsman. Here's the link: http://boards.immigr...ad.php?t=261575 If there is a name of anyone who handled your original application perhaps it might also be an idea to submit with a coloured front paper requesting the packet is not opened in the mailroom and marked for the attention of that particular officer (coloured paper is advised apparently when resubmitting) stating that you previously submitted in July and had the application returned. This might, at least, avoid an RFE on the visitation aspect later. I'm in agreement with you that time is of a premium here. I just wish I knew the status of my application. It has been six weeks and nothing, no return, no check cashed..nothing. These things are often completely out of our hands.	bakofoil	Female	England	2007-09-12 22:41:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	ATTENTION JULY FILERS!	QUOTE (kaush @ Sep 13 2007, 04:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (thejoz @ Sep 12 2007, 10:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm more intrigued about this 'two year rule'. What is that? I-129F application instructions state that " You and your fiancé(e) intend to marry within 90 days ofyour fiancé(e) entering the United States, and are both freeto marry, and have met in person within two years before your filing of this petition " kaush, this is a supplementary reason why, in your case, it might be best to appeal their request for the new fee schedule. If you resubmit with the new fee then you are prospectively facing an RFE over the timing of your last visit with each other. Your previous application was within the requirements for application. I do not wish to mislead you in any way. I am simply offering an opinion. Perhaps, you could make an appointment with an immigration lawyer before taking any decision on this matter given your circumstances. I wish you the best of luck.	bakofoil	Female	England	2007-09-12 22:13:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	ATTENTION JULY FILERS!	QUOTE (chris4gretchen @ Sep 13 2007, 03:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (babblesgirl @ Sep 12 2007, 07:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (chris4gretchen @ Sep 13 2007, 03:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (kaush @ Sep 12 2007, 06:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Okay so I filed end of July and ran into a problem!! I sent my package on July 27th and it reached TSC on July 30th (I had a return receipt). If it reached them on July 30th, thats the day of the new fee increases. You missed the deadline. You sent it on a friday. they arent there to receive it on sat or sunday so monday the 30th is the earliest day. I feel bad for you having to start over, but you clearly missed the deadline. they had to officially receive it ( not just sign for the mail) before the 30th. .... they werent going off postmarks, but their received date. The requirement is for the application to be POSTMARKED prior to the 30th July; "WASHINGTON—U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) reminds its customers that the agency’s new fee schedule is effective on Monday, July 30, 2007. Applications or petitions postmarked or otherwise filed on or after that date must include the new fee." There is some good advice on this scenario on the following thread: http://www.visajourn...h...t&p=1176939 No, youre missing it... just because your postmark is the 27th or 28th doesnt mean you beat the deadline. it says OR OTHERWISE FILED ON or after. that means if your postmark is on july 30th or after, OR if they received your petition and FILED IT into their system on July 30th then you have to pay the new fees. they filed those petitions that they received from late friday and sat on monday. The day the new fees went into effect. didnt matter the postmark was 27th or 28th. You guys are giving bad advice to tell them to resend and USCIS made a mistake. Im sorry the people got them returned but USCIS has already made the decision on them and they wont overturn it. Chris There is no intention to mislead here. The USCIS officially state here that applications postmarked ON or AFTER July 30th or OTHERWISE FILED (i.e. delivery by hand or some other means) ON or AFTER that date are subject to the new fee schedule. I really don't think there is any ambiguity here; if the application left his hands BEFORE the 30th July and he has documented proof (via a postmark or delivery receipt) that the package was officially placed in the hands of some other official body (be it the postal service or a receiving officer -if delivery by other means - at the CSC) prior to the cut of date then USCIS have made a mistake. It is up to the petitioner to prove to USCIS that they submitted correctly, via a postal receipt. It is very unfortunate for the petitioner that this has happened but with the recent deluge of applicants to beat the fee schedule it is unsurprising that some applications are being returned erroneously and also that many applications sent in July have simply not been processed yet (as in my case). Clearly, if the petitioner appeals, the process is going to take additional time and therefore it is up to the petitioner to decide whether to submit with the new fee or take up their right to challenge the ruling on this particular application. The petitioner does, however, have a good case to dispute the request for the new fee.	bakofoil	Female	England	2007-09-12 22:08:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	ATTENTION JULY FILERS!	QUOTE (chris4gretchen @ Sep 13 2007, 03:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (kaush @ Sep 12 2007, 06:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Okay so I filed end of July and ran into a problem!! I sent my package on July 27th and it reached TSC on July 30th (I had a return receipt). If it reached them on July 30th, thats the day of the new fee increases. You missed the deadline. You sent it on a friday. they arent there to receive it on sat or sunday so monday the 30th is the earliest day. I feel bad for you having to start over, but you clearly missed the deadline. they had to officially receive it ( not just sign for the mail) before the 30th. .... they werent going off postmarks, but their received date. The requirement is for the application to be POSTMARKED prior to the 30th July; "WASHINGTON—U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) reminds its customers that the agency’s new fee schedule is effective on Monday, July 30, 2007. Applications or petitions postmarked or otherwise filed on or after that date must include the new fee." There is some good advice on this scenario on the following thread: http://www.visajourn...h...t&p=1176939	bakofoil	Female	England	2007-09-12 21:42:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	ATTENTION JULY FILERS!	QUOTE (Bill y Bella @ Sep 12 2007, 02:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (babblesgirl @ Sep 11 2007, 08:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Are there any July filers still waiting on checks cashing? My application arrived on the 15th August (not sure what the delay there was since we express mailed it) but still awaiting news. I've also searched through the forums and some August filers have had better luck than me. Please fill out your VJ timeline. You mailed your package on 7/27 via express mail and it did not arrive until 8/15? Very strange. I hope the receiving clerk looked at the postmark. 9 petitions were mailed to CSC by VJ members between 8/10 & 8/15 inclusive. So those petitions arrived at roughly the same time as yours. Out of the 9 only 1 has a NOA1, so I think that the fact that your check has not been cashed yet is not cause for concern. It looks like CSC is still way behind on receiving. I would be a little worried however about them realizing that your petition was postmarked prior to the price increase. In fact I have read some posts from people who had petitions sent back for the wrong fee when it was mailed on July 27 and received on the 30th. Obviously there are some contract employees that were confused about the postmark rule. In any case, there is nothing to do but sit and wait a few more days and see what happens. I wish you good luck! Thanks for your reply and the kind thoughts. I've just filled out my timeline (apologies). I hope the petition won't be returned to us, that will set us back at least 2 months with the wait we've already had since submitting. Ah well.	bakofoil	Female	England	2007-09-11 20:42:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	ATTENTION JULY FILERS!	Are there any July filers still waiting on checks cashing? My application arrived on the 15th August (not sure what the delay there was since we express mailed it) but still awaiting news. I've also searched through the forums and some August filers have had better luck than me.	bakofoil	Female	England	2007-09-11 19:58:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	Visa in hand! TODAY!	Congratulations! I saw you were worried about the birth cert. and I didn't have any thing of use to offer at the time but it is great to see your approval without any hassle. Dublin sounds easy! Congrats again	bakofoil	Female	England	2008-03-03 17:29:00