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I miss Shreddies

Nanaimo bar mix??!? Never heard of it!

I saw Nanaimo bars in a bakery in the Minneapolis / St Paul airport a couple of weeks ago and they were labeled "Vancouver Island bars". It made me wonder if people couldn't pronounce Nanaimo.

You remember an old comic strip "Sgt. Renfrew".

In one case, Renfrew has to inform his GF that her citizenship interview is in Prince Rupert--because the judge couldn't SPELL "Nanaimo". :lol:

Saddle Bronc

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2006-09-04 20:25:00

I miss Shreddies

Noted that all products (except for Nanaimo bars--well you CAN get Robin Hood Nanaimo Bar Mix this way) are available at CanadianFavourites.

Edited by CherryXS, 04 September 2006 - 04:45 PM.

Saddle Bronc

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2006-09-04 16:45:00

Length of stay for Canadians

No, the particular treaty for undocumented B-2 is NOT NAFTA (nor even the earlier C-US-FTA). Undocumented B-2 could visit US for max of 6 months even in 1987.
All the secondary sources I am finding so far say that it is in fact NAFTA. The fact that a B2 could visit the US even in '87 doesn't resolve this debate since most provisions of the Canada-US Free Trade Agreement were incorporated into NAFTA. As such, if Canadians were eligible to receive the B2 status under the FTA, it is quite possible that those rights were also incorporated into NAFTA.

You apparently forgot that the precursor treaty to NAFTA was only signed in 1988--which was why I mentioned 1987.

If Zyggy is correct and we are in fact talking about some convention enacted pursuant to Jay's Treaty, however, I really don't know how in the world we are supposed to find it. What appears to be almost certain so far, however, is the fact that Canadians do not have any sort of an aggregate limit on the amount of time that they are allowed to spend in the US as tourists (which is the question I am most interested in at the moment).

Again, it's technically supposed to be six months at a stretch. But since many Canadians don't get stamps in passport (and for B-2, no I-94 is issued), it's extremely hard to enforce.

Saddle Bronc

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2006-09-25 17:15:00

Length of stay for Canadians

Actually the deal between the US and Canada is covered by treaty... I'll have to look it up...
From what I can see, the treaty you are looking for is NAFTA. I realize that we've discussed this before and that you feel that there is a different treaty that applies, but everything that I've seen on this subject mentions NAFTA as the governing authority. I have yet to find any conclusive evidence of this, however.

No, the particular treaty for undocumented B-2 is NOT NAFTA (nor even the earlier C-US-FTA). Undocumented B-2 could visit US for max of 6 months even in 1987.

Saddle Bronc

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2006-09-25 14:44:00

Length of stay for Canadians

Hi all,

I'm in a bit of a bind and I was hoping someone here would be able to help me find some answers. What is the maximum amount of time that a Canadian can stay in the US? I was under the impression that it was 90 days, but I've seen 6 months mentioned on here a few times, and am having a hard time finding a straight answer. Also, my fiance and I went to Germany over the summer and when we arrived in Detroit my passport was stamped with a B2 visa; the immigration officer did not fill in the expiration date on the B2, nor did he give me a date I have to leave by, and much like the length of stay for Canadians, I haven't been able to figure out what the maximum stay for a B2 visa is. I don't want to overstay or cause any problems with our K1, and it's soon going to be 90 days since I last entered the US. I've been planning on going back to Canada, but as the date gets closer, I really don't want to go unless I have to! I'd be really grateful for any help, or if someone could point me in the direction of what agency I could call(please say it isn't USCIS!).

-April

The length of stay is determined by the I-94. What is the expiration on your I-94?

Partly true.

For "undocumented" B-2 (only available for Canucks), the max stay is SUPPOSED to be six months (this is true if USCBP stamps the passport--which they oft don't; NO I-94 issued in this case). Certain other visas/stati DO have associated I-94 (TN-1/TD, H1-b/H-4, F-1/F-2, R-1, L-1/L-2) and definite (but renewable/extendable) term.

Saddle Bronc

Male

2006-09-25 13:02:00

Work Visa in US then marry a USC

Partly dependent on which type of work visa.

For H1-b, either AOS (you can file I-485 ONLY, as H1-b can be extended if near-expiry in 1-year increments; if not near-expiry, it can be used AS both work-permit and travel-reentry permit). Also, marriage can be "safely" (more explanation below) be done outside of US.

For TN-1, it is best to have the marriage IN US and do AOS (full-package--and NO leaving US until AP in hand). In theory the marriage could be done outside but there is high risk of reentry denial by inspecting official (marriage to USC is "red-flag" of immigrant intent). Or, consular processing (CR-1), so long as holder is absolutely sure of not travelling outside US till just before interview at Montreal (for the converse, travel outside US while CR-1 is in process could result in reentry denial at POE/PFI).

Can't answer the cases for L-1 or R-1.

(I have been on TN-1--though never married in that status)

Saddle Bronc

Male

2006-09-26 12:18:00

Other options?

Mo...

I agree with you in the sense that the OP would have no way of adjusting to get legal immigrant status since the OP is not a citizen.. it doesn't stop her from shacking up for a period of time that is not permitted under her duration of stay... e.g by staying inside of the US for more time than outside of the US, basically living here without the proper status... her travel patterns would give the appearance of immigrant intent... If I saw it on the screen, it would make me do a double take...

Actually zyggy, the OP was the TN-1 BF. It is possible for him to get legal immigrant status (posting from experience here). For the OP's GF, two ways:

get married to OP, get TD now, (requires assumption of OP going for a EB-n GC) derivative GC (whether CP or AOS)
if she has quals of her own, she can (from Canada) search for jobs in his locality and get a work visa--and maybe get employer to sponsor EB-n GC

that's what I'm worried about... that her tie to her TN bf will compel her to stay for a lengthly period of time (or make a material misrepresentation to acheive that goal) and bring the attention of CBP when she enters and perhaps other agencies...

hate to see her lie to gain entry and find herself with a permanent ban...

Agree -- it's not safe for her to continue just using "undocumented B-2" for longterm stay.

Saddle Bronc

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2006-09-27 16:50:00

Other options?

If you marry your girlfirend, she will be permited in the US with a TD status. That status only allows a spouse to be in the US.. they do not have work permission.
Hmm. I was always under the impression, that if he were to marry his GF and she were to acquire a TD she can change to a temporary work status. Isn't that true?

Yes, if the TD holder has a job offer and either gets the employer to submit I-129 OR (if the job is one which falls under L-1, TN-1 or R-1) leaves-and-reenters US (with documents required to obtain/renew the status).

Also, since right now TN is treated much like the L and H, but this is not delineated in the INA (and therefore could be subject to change), it'd be wise to sumbit his GC application ASAP if that's what he intends to do, correct?

Yes, if he can get his employer to do GC sponsorship.

For a EB-n GC application from TN-1:

the TN-1 can be renewed at POE/PFI prior to I-140 approval
mail-in TN-1 renewal possible right up to submitting AOS
if consular processing chosen on I-140 (or petition swapped from AOS to CP using I-824 during "hurry-up-and-wait" delay--I'll describe this below), then mail-in renewal is possible right up to just prior to visa interview at processing consulate (generally, Montreal)

An oft used approach is to ask the employer to convert to H1-b (due to longer period of validity)--there is also a myth that this is necessary as a precursor (actually, the I-129 for TN-1->H1-b conversion is a different animal entirely from the GC process; also it's not even necessary--I'm living proof).

"hurry-up-and-wait": my name for the case where the cutoff-date for EB-n (the category for the I-140) is before the process-date of the application. It actually happened to me due to the chopf#ck I used as an attorney filing me as EB-3 instead of EB-2 (I have a MSCS). I found this out AFTER I-140 approval (Sep. 1997) when I was preparing I-485 papers). During the 1 1/2 years I had to wait for cutoff-date progress, I filed an I-824 to swap to process at Montreal (I asked first whether I could process in either London or Calgary--no to both; never lived in UK, and Calgary doesn't do IV processing) and fired the attorney.

Saddle Bronc

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2006-09-27 10:17:00

Other options?

Actually, the solution is rather simple here.

You get married (location not a matter for this), re-enter US (meaning, if you get married in US, make a trip outside) together; at that time, you show the marriage certificate and your TN-1 and she gets a TD valid till its expiry date.

Note: TD has the same problems as other dependent (such as H-4) visas/stati; but it is multi-entry and less stressful (for Canucks) than undocumented B-2.

Saddle Bronc

Male

2006-09-26 08:40:00

If I were you I will NOT leave the US. I got married to an American on a TN. You will 100% be denied entry because that's what happene to me!!!!

I'm on TN. Got married to American in Canada, 2 days after the wedding, we tried to return to the US and I was denied. I'm in Canada and he's in US. You dont want to be like us! Now we have to file for I-130 and I-129F.

Also, I would talk to a lawyer. But I agree with the other people, you can renew your new TN so it be past the November date and you'll have more time to take care of the AOS and EAD.

And no matter what, DO NOT LEAVE THE US. You're can't return if they find out you're married to an American!
Trust me! I'm a living example right here!

The company I'm working for has a lawyer that specializes in immigration, so I'm going to speak with him. Isn't it a red flag to apply for a TN early? What do I say if they ask me why I'm applying early?

No, this is actually done quite oft. All that happens is a penalty of the remaining validity of the previous one. I actually asked this question of the Calgary PFI in Oct. 1994 (from Atlanta).

How did they find out you got married? Did they ask you, or is it in the system somewhere? Either way, we've decided not to leave the country until my AOS comes through.

Yes, it gets entered into a computer system to which they have access.

Saddle Bronc

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2006-09-28 20:22:00

If I were you I will NOT leave the US. I got married to an American on a TN. You will 100% be denied entry because that's what happene to me!!!!

I'm on TN. Got married to American in Canada, 2 days after the wedding, we tried to return to the US and I was denied. I'm in Canada and he's in US. You dont want to be like us! Now we have to file for I-130 and I-129F.

Also, I would talk to a lawyer. But I agree with the other people, you can renew your new TN so it be past the November date and you'll have more time to take care of the AOS and EAD.

And no matter what, DO NOT LEAVE THE US. You're can't return if they find out you're married to an American!
Trust me! I'm a living example right here!

Exactly one of the reasons I straight-off binned my late mum's suggestion in 1998 (at a time when "hurry-up-and-wait" on my employment-based GC process was causing me much frustration) of marrying a USC.

(a plethora of others including that this suggestion was a not-so-subtle hint to turn over the marriage search issue to her--which would have been a total disaster--rather than defer it till after getting GC).

Saddle Bronc

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2006-09-28 10:55:00

The TN is considered for those who have no immigrant intent.. once you get married, you do have that intent and a CBP officer has the right to deny you entry to the US for this reason. I would say it's a low risk that it would happen, but if it did, it would carry a high penalty...

True; therein lies an irony: if the TN-1 holder has filed for EB-n GC, any stage of the petition prior to AOS (even an approved I-140) does not constitute immigrant intent.

Saddle Bronc

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2006-09-27 11:51:00

If you have gotten Employment Authorisation Document by then, no problem. As zyggy (and I earlier) stated, you can give yourself more leeway by renewing (with penalty of August to November period) the TN-1 in August (1 month prior to the wedding).

If you get married and then file AOS, and THEN your TN expires before you have EAD and AP in hand, then you can neither work nor leave US till you have these.

Thanks again for your help.

One more stupid question:

Suppose I were to renew my visa in Aug, and get married in Sept, so my TN will still be valid at this point. Am I free to leave and re-enter the country then? The reason why I ask is because we were planning on going to the Caribbean for our honeymoon shortly after the wedding. Should I file my AOS after I get back, or should I avoid leaving the country altogether?

You would be free to enter and leave up to the wedding. I would not recommend leaving the country anytime after the wedding without AP; the licence/certificate of marriage (to USC) could cause officer to stop you entering ("immigrant intent" -- unfortunately, no room for doubt here).

Is your profession one that could be covered under H1-b?

Saddle Bronc

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2006-09-27 05:01:00

I'm currently in the US on a TN-1 visa, that will expire in November. My fiance and I are planning on getting married next September. I know that I can renew my current TN for another year.
FYI, you can extend it ad-infinitum (but in one-year increments). There are some who have been working in US for 10+ years on TN-1.

My question is, if my visa expires in November, will I be kicked out of the country or unable to work until my AOS comes through? Other than moving up the wedding date, do I have any other options?

I can give you more than one:
renew your TN-1 in August (one month before the wedding) at a POE/PFI. Then you will have an expiry date of the following August (somewhat more leeway than November), though you will lose the remainder of the time on the original.
What are the H1-b numbers like for Fy-2007? If some are remaining AND your job is one of the "overlap" professions, you could have your employer convert you to H1-b. Benefits: longer leeway (3.5 years vs 1) and dual-intent-allowed (so you can do I-485-only instead of I-485/I-765/I-131 package; the H1-b can function as both work-auth and re-entry permit)

Are you sure I can renew my TN early? If I renew it early, am I able to leave the country before my AOS comes through, or will I be denied entry?

Yes, you can renew a TN-1 early (at POE/PFI anyway), prior to marriage and/or AOS filing. Once you file AOS, you will need Advance Parole document to re-enter.

If you get married before the TN expires, you will be ineligible to renew your status. If I were you, I would renew the status for another year, get married and then file for AOS with an EAD. Much like a H-1b, you are permitted to work on the TN while your I-485 is pending. However, unlike a TN you will not be able to renew your TN status once the I-485 is filed, nor if you leave the US, will you be able to enter the US on the TN, you will have to use AP, even if you are still working for the same employer... Hence the reason why you should also apply for an EAD and AP at the same time as you file the I-485.

I'm not sure what EAD and AP mean. Can you clearify? Does this mean if my TN expires in Nov, and my AOS hasn't been approved I can still work?

If you have gotten Employment Authorisation Document by then, no problem. As zyggy (and I earlier) stated, you can give yourself more leeway by renewing (with penalty of August to November period) the TN-1 in August (1 month prior to the wedding).

If you get married and then file AOS, and THEN your TN expires before you have EAD and AP in hand, then you can neither work nor leave US till you have these.

Saddle Bronc

Male

2006-09-26 18:03:00

If you get married before the TN expires, you will be ineligible to renew your status. If I were you, I would renew the status for another year, get married and then file for AOS with an EAD. Much like a H-1b, you are permitted to work on the TN while your I-485 is pending. However, unlike a TN you will not be able to renew your TN status once the I-485 is filed, nor if you leave the US, will you be able to enter the US on the TN, you will have to use AP, even if you are still working for the same employer... Hence the reason why you should also apply for an EAD and AP at the same time as you file the I-485

Um, I think you meant (where I redded from your post) "unlike a H1-b", correct?

Edited by CherryXS, 26 September 2006 - 01:29 PM.

Saddle Bronc

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2006-09-26 13:28:00

I'm currently in the US on a TN-1 visa, that will expire in November. My fiance and I are planning on getting married next September. I know that I can renew my current TN for another year.

FYI, you can extend it ad-infinitum (but in one-year increments). There are some who have been working in US for 10+ years on TN-1.

My question is, if my visa expires in November, will I be kicked out of the country or unable to work until my AOS comes through? Other than moving up the wedding date, do I have any other options?

I can give you more than one:

renew your TN-1 in August (one month before the wedding) at a POE/PFI. Then you will have an expiry date of the following August (somewhat more leeway than November), though you will lose the remainder of the time on the original.
What are the H1-b numbers like for Fy-2007? If some are remaining AND your job is one of the "overlap" professions, you could have your employer convert you to H1-b. Benefits: longer leeway (3.5 years vs 1) and dual-intent-allowed (so you can do I-485-only instead of I-485/I-765/I-131 package; the H1-b can function as both work-auth and re-entry permit)

Edited by CherryXS, 26 September 2006 - 01:26 PM.

Saddle Bronc

Male

2006-09-26 13:25:00

add married name to passport

I don't think there will be too much trouble. We haven't done anything yet to change Pras' (Indian) passport to married name--we'll maybe do it after AOS.

Our AOS interview is on 10/13 (just before yours).

Saddle Bronc

Male

2006-09-29 13:27:00

Wedding Plans?

As I happen to be a Canadian (dual Can-Am, both by naturalisation), I'm adding my $0.017 worth.

We married 11 days after Pras entered on K-1, at the LEF's church in Novi (Oakland County), MI. We had to go to Pontiac two days before the wedding to get a marriage licence--as the marriage was performed in Oakland County by an accredited member of clergy, no pre-registration was needed.

Saddle Bronc

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2006-09-18 20:05:00

Police certificate from India

IMO, it will be unnecessary.

(I am an Indian-born Can-Am)

Saddle Bronc

Male

2006-10-04 06:44:00

Police Record check

(I used a walk-in certificate issued in July 1999 for a Immigrant Visa interview at Montreal Dec 1999)

Saddle Bronc

Male

2006-10-04 07:18:00

Getting a Passport

Marginally less difficult for me, as I've never been able to use my BC in the first place (as I was born in India).

Saddle Bronc

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2006-10-06 13:22:00

CANADIAN THANKSGIVING

Well, we carried a chicken-leg ("drumstick" -- because we're both from South India originally, I avoid using this term) curry for our journey and consumed some of it with chapatis for breakfast; the rest, with pilaf will be dinner. :lol:

Saddle Bronc

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2006-10-09 16:39:00

CANADIAN THANKSGIVING

Nothing special here either - the American thankisgiving is the big one. I will call my Dad and speak with him and be a little lonesome for what I left behind, but it will pass. And I'll be doing the regular laundry.
...
Happy Thanksgiving, everyone!

True that Yank Thanksgiving is more of a to-do. At my office, we do have Columbus Day off (hence my plans to see Liberty Bell in Philly). The weekend (incl. Friday) after Yank Thanksgiving, we will be going to Vassar--may even stop at Windsor to visit church family as this will be "safe" (basically GC interview will be done, and temp stamp in place--no need to apply for visitor visa, especially with the potential "red flag" of my Canuck citizenship).

Saddle Bronc

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2006-10-05 09:18:00

CANADIAN THANKSGIVING

Going to Philly monday to see Liberty Bell.

Edited by CherryXS, 05 October 2006 - 04:50 AM.

Saddle Bronc

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2006-10-05 04:50:00

What foods are the Same in the US

I can't figure the flour thing out. It is really upsetting because I make awesome cookies, I was bragging and so excited to make them and they were terrible.

Easy (but not cheap) way to handle the flour issue is to order Robin Hood online (AlwaysCanadian or CanadianFavourites)

Almost everything is sweetened with corn syrup...blech.

Um, so are a lot of foods produced and sold in Canada--compared to almost none outside North America.

Saddle Bronc

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2006-10-17 10:17:00

A little Canadian humour

You know you're an Albertan when:

A "weekend trip" could be anything in the province north of the US border
You propagandise about switching parka to sweater within 8 hours (but fail to mention the tail-end effect of sweater to parka)
you can wear shorts in any weather above 14 F
Your repertoire of sports generally spans rodeo and ice-hockey (and you're really passionate on the latter, even booing the province's "other" team at all costs)

Saddle Bronc

Male

2006-10-25 07:32:00

Passport Valid for 6 or 12 months?

Six

Saddle Bronc

Male

2006-10-30 09:39:00

multiple passports

yeah, technically you're not supposed to travel with more than one passport, but if you're a dual, or treble or whatever national, you almost have to. Like for instance if my Aunt were to travel back to the UK to visit family. She currently lives in the US and is a naturalized US citizen. She might have to get a connecting flight thru Canada, where she grew up, and is also a citizen in order to get to the UK, where she was born, and still is considered a citizen.

When she lands in Canada for the connecting flight, she's Canadian, and would show her Canuck passport.

because there's lots of flights to UK from US. Going through Canada is only if she wants to do a "combined trip). I remember much discussion about this issue on the Grasmick Forum (specifically whether it would be OK for a TN-1 to visit UK without going through Canada; I actually did such a visit, only glitch was INS officer asking "where's the visa?" when I returned to Atlanta).

When she gets to the UK, she's British, and would show that passport. When she comes back to the US at the end of her trip, she'd show that passport in order to get back into the country.

It may be possible to show US passport for entry to UK (or Canada--my sister does this when visiting Calgary).

Edited by CherryXS, 31 October 2006 - 01:11 PM.

Saddle Bronc

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2006-10-31 13:10:00

multiple passports

Also, those particular rules have no meaning for dual citizens who often hold a Canadian (blue) passport and a non-Canadian one.

Saddle Bronc

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2006-10-30 18:38:00

Are you knocking without trying? DeadpoolX agrees with me on the idea.
If you think about it, it really isn't much different from french fries. French fries, potato chips -- it's all potato products. We dip french fries into ketchup, so why not potato chips?

Almost right--potato products with heavy amount of oil (with option of salt).

You know what also tastes good? Using BBQ sauce. Okay, maybe that's just plain weird, but I'm a Texan.

I've had potato chips (and tater gems) with salsa, so nothing weird about bbq-sauce.

Saddle Bronc

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2006-11-03 08:06:00

I found ketchup chips!! At walmart. The brand name is Herr's. They are not anywhere near as good as Old Dutch....probably more like Lays brand. But still they are Ketchup and my kids are going to be freaking when they get home! lol
True, Herr's is not a very good brand.

But couldn't ketchup chips be acheived by simply buying PLAIN chips (such as UTZ) and a bottle of ketchup?
I don't think it would be good.

Are you knocking without trying? DeadpoolX agrees with me on the idea.

Edited by CherryXS, 01 November 2006 - 01:15 PM.

Saddle Bronc

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2006-11-01 13:15:00

I found ketchup chips!! At walmart. The brand name is Herr's. They are not anywhere near as good as Old Dutch....probably more like Lays brand. But still they are Ketchup and my kids are going to be freaking when they get home! lol

True, Herr's is not a very good brand.

But couldn't ketchup chips be acheived by simply buying PLAIN chips (such as UTZ) and a bottle of ketchup?

Saddle Bronc

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2006-10-31 15:15:00

Starbucks and coffee counters with desserts and sandwiches in bookstores - what a nice way to spend a few hours - browsing through interesting books while enjoying a coffee;

Appears you must have RVW'd here--there is a Chapters with Starbucks only a few blocks from my Calgary home!

Saddle Bronc

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2006-10-18 08:53:00

One Way Ticket

He won't be driving across he will get a cab to the border, and then walk across, which is why I thought they might question him.

It appears now that the one-way domestic airticket (that you mentioned in the initial post) is totally outside the glister of the thread. The only question here is "will the Canuck border guards question him if he walks across?".

Saddle Bronc

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2006-11-11 22:31:00

One Way Ticket

My fiance has purchased a 1 way ticket to Buffalo where he will make his way across the Rainbow Bridge to the Canadian side where I will be waiting to pick him up. He will spend two days here with me and my family, then we will pack up the rental truck and drive to VA. What kind of hassle can he expect at the border with no return ticket? He is afraid if he tells them that he is coming to get me and we are driving back together that they might hassle him more? Anyone have any experience with this? I told him I would scan in my passport and anything I get from the Consulate so he can show them when crossing, is that going to be enough? Or should he get a letter from work saying he is expected back to work the following week?

What you've posted (red) sounds like it's a domestic trip inside US for him--why would the airticket even need to be shown to a (Canuck) border official AFTER its endpoint?

Also, even if shown to USCBP official, it has no meaning if he's the USC.

Saddle Bronc

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2006-11-11 17:50:00

Leaving the country AFTER AP approval but BEFORE AP arrival

Unfortunately, AP cannot be issued by an embassy/consulate, as it's not from the same government department (embassy is State, USCIS is Homeland Security).

Saddle Bronc

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2006-11-20 10:13:00

My Canadian Car registered in US

I think you guys are refering to the Registration fees, if it's your car and you take it along to DMV, you can declare it's value at crossing but i don't think you need to pay additional tax, Reistration fees for cars is based on the value (worth) of the vehicle.

more accurately what value DMV (or whichsoever acronym is used) puts on it--which may be magnitude-order higher than actual Blue-book.

In 1992, one of my cousins went to Arlington, VA from U of M (Ann Arbor) to do residency; his car, a 1989 Mazda 626 was valued by VA DMV at $26,000 (even a NEW LOADED 626 that year didn't retail that high) for the property tax purpose (inseparable from registration value here).

Saddle Bronc

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2006-11-20 19:58:00

My Canadian Car registered in US

My experience at the BMV (Indiana needs to be different and not call it the DMV) ...

Maybe they decide it's more apt to state "you're dealing with BUREAUcracy". FYI, Maryland also uses a different acronym, MVA.

Saddle Bronc

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2006-11-20 19:53:00

Passport photos "too old"???

I think I misunderstood your question. I thought you were applying for a Canadian passport.

If you're filing your I-129 application, I believe it says taken "within 30 days" of filing, so...

Saddle Bronc

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2006-11-21 15:12:00