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K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSignatures of Chinese Langauge from fiancée
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y2catalystMaleChina2009-11-12 14:24:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSignatures of Chinese Langauge from fiancée
Quick question, seems straight forward but sometimes confusing. I am being told my fiancée signature will need to be in English Language on her 325a form.

1. I am certain she does not have an English signature so will she just hand write her name where the signature line is on 325a?


2. We had her Divorce and Birth Certificates translated to English while I was in China. Translation is Family Name 1st and Given name 2nd which it also in this order in her native language. If she signs her name in English on signature line of 325a will she still put her family name 1st?


3. When I was in China her signature on Letter of Intent for 90 days was in Chinese language (family Name 1st) . Will this be sufficent?
Seem like dumb questions but I don’t want a small technicality to hold up the process.


Thank you

y2catalystMaleChina2009-11-12 09:57:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresFiancée Visitor Visa Previously Denied?
Thank you all for your replies.

For purpose of not falsifying any data I can simply put she was denied visitor visa however I want to respond to the following.

Did she ACTUALLY apply, or did she go to that interview to apply and had previously submitted no paperwork? She never applied prior to interview, she went to interview to present her circumstances and her 156 application which were glance over and handed back to her refusing visa.

OR Had she already submitted paperwork and this was the interview that SHE was invited to? NO

I can take the advice and call US Embassy where she had her appointment to determine if there is any record of her denial. Either way, if I mark yes on her 156 and there is no record that she was denied then can I assume this will not present a problem.
Thank you,

Rob

y2catalystMaleChina2009-12-30 09:31:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresFiancée Visitor Visa Previously Denied?

I will try to keep this short. My fiancée brought to my attention she had previous tried to get a visitor visa to USA and was denied because she did not meet the qualifications.

My question is, did she really get formally denied a visa. She managed to get an appointment with the US Embassy in China submitting a letter explaining circumstanced of an ailing family member in USA. The US Embassy in China scheduled an appointment for her where her index finger was scanned when she arrived. She presented what she assumed were correct supporting documents and was asked who was sponsoring her in USA since there were no existing petitions on file for her such as a 129f. The only documents she had was a letter from hospital explaining ailing family member’s circumstances in USA and her 156k form which were briefly glanced over. The process took 2 minutes and she was turned away because she did not meet the qualifications.

I am only asking this question when I comes time to Complete the 156 form for our 129f petition. Since no other sponsoring petitions were filed for her before her appointment should I still indicate she had previously been denied a visitor visa?

Thank you,

Rob

y2catalystMaleChina2009-12-29 11:17:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresNOA1 Approved, Now what?
Thank you, looking forward to completing the journey.
y2catalystMaleChina2010-04-21 23:09:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresNOA1 Approved, Now what?
Ok, I don’t want to sound to ignorant but made it so far. I received a letter from Bureau of Consular Affairs stating the State Department has received and approved 129F petition. At this time can we complete and send back the DS-230 and the OF-169 with EMS Label before my fiancée receives packet 3?

Thank you for you help
y2catalystMaleChina2010-04-19 19:51:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresNOA1 Approved, Now what?
Thank you very much, I would perfer EMS. I found instruction for EMS for DS-160. http://guangzhou.use...tion-form2.html

I could not find how to file EMS for DS-230 and the OF-169.

Yes, NOA2 Approved

Edited by y2catalyst, 16 April 2010 - 12:45 PM.

y2catalystMaleChina2010-04-16 12:42:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresNOA1 Approved, Now what?
From this list, what needs to be mailed back in Packet 3 and what are presented during the interview? {Assumption that all originals are presented at interview} I guess I can wait for instructions from Packet 3 but want to prepare. Thank you all.

1. DS-230 Part 1
2. DS-156
3. DS-156K
4. DS-156 BNK Supplement
5. DS-157
6. I-134 Evidence of Support
7. Medical Exam Forms
8. Police Report, translated to English.
9. Birth Certificate, translated to English.
10. Evidence that you and your fiancee have met
11. Evidence that you and your fiancee have an ongoing relationship.
12. 3 or more months of bank records.
13. 3 or more months of pay stubs.
14. 3 or more of your previous tax statements.
15. Documents confirming your employment and salary.
16. Letter from your bank stating average balance.
17. Passport photos of your fiance
18. Copy of your fiancee's passport page that has her picture.
19. Copy of filed 129F
y2catalystMaleChina2010-04-16 11:53:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresDS-230 & OF-169
Yes, I did review the sort cut option. We have completed all forms and she will get the EML label to include with DS-230 & FO-169 with package back to Guangzhou by May 3. Based on this how soon do you think the interview would take place.

Thank you for all your help,

Rob
y2catalystMaleChina2010-04-30 12:44:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresDS-230 & OF-169
More trivial questions. Packet 3 arrived with DS-230 Part I and OF-169.
  • The forms are both in Chinese & English, does she complete both?
  • From Age 16 to 19 she lived in a village where the homes do not have specific address. Will the village name and area suffice?
  • Part 33. (education) - Here Secondary school no longer exists and cannot get exact address, will this matter?

Thank you,

Rob
y2catalystMaleChina2010-04-30 09:01:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresK1 Visa Fee Increase - China
Thank you for the feedback, I will write Consulate for instructions to pay difference. I hope to see her again soon in Guangzhou for the interview, wait for the visa, a week in Chongqing with her family and back to the USA together. That is the plan if all goes smoothly.

Best Regards,

Robert
y2catalystMaleChina2010-05-27 03:09:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresK1 Visa Fee Increase - China
My Fiancée received her Packet 3 late April and we sent back DS-230 & OF-169 May 14th still waiting for interview date. In Packet 3 are instruction to pay a visa fee of $131.00 USA. I just noticed on the Guangzhou Embassy site the K visa fees are being increased to $350.00USA after June 4th http://guangzhou.use...rg.cn/fees.html

Based on these instructions will we need to pay the difference of the fee we already paid given our petition was filed before June 4, 2010?

Thank you,

Rob
y2catalystMaleChina2010-05-26 16:01:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresDate of Signatures to Interview Date

Rob - no - the dates you mentioned - you'll be fine.

In the artifacts list - you include a current 'employment letter' also ?

Good Luck ! Go Pink !



Thank you both for responding. Yes, Employment letter was signed off by my manager May 18th.
y2catalystMaleChina2010-06-28 14:23:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresDate of Signatures to Interview Date
My Fiancée sent completed packet 3 on May 14th. Since then I completed I-134 & supporting artifacts. My concern is I mailed the I-134, Bank Letter & Employment letter back to my Fiancée all signed with May 20th date. May concern is the interview date came back recently for July 30th. Will there be discrepancy from the date I had the supporting I-134 artifacts singed to the time of the interview date?

Thank you,

Rob
y2catalystMaleChina2010-06-28 08:42:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresMedical Exam before interview
thank you both for the feedback. One more question about medical exam. How many days before the interview should the medical exam be scheduled?

Thank you,

Rob
y2catalystMaleChina2010-07-14 21:53:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresMedical Exam before interview
I am sure this comes up alot.

My fiancée told me she has no instructions in packet 4 about the medical exam appointment or date. Who does she call for medical appointment?

She also has no vaccination records so she will need to have all vaccinations administrated before the medical exam date.
y2catalystMaleChina2010-07-14 11:00:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresLost Origional Documents
Yes, I have all SCAN copies I listed & just completed reproducing origional duplicates & Forms with my mew signatures where needed, including forms for her signature.

Thank you very much, I think we will be fine. I will have the package to FedEx 1st thing in the morning, time is ticking, tick....tick...tick... love the pressure :)

Rob
y2catalystMaleChina2010-07-16 00:25:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresLost Origional Documents
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and experience. I actually meant Engagement Ring Receipt, sorry.

Best Regards,

Rob
y2catalystMaleChina2010-07-15 23:27:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresLost Origional Documents
Well, we have come so far and our Interview appointment is scheduled for July 30. We have spent almost a half year preparing for the interview. I had originally intended to meet my fiancée in Guangzhou however because of employment responsibilities I could not.
Well I guess I made a big mistake by sending my documents to my fiancée by USPS Priority Mail in mid June. It appears USA said they sent them and China system indicates there were sent but they did not receive them.

I did make color copies of everything or reproduced in duplicate originals of several of the artifacts we need and can reproduce original signature documents and have them delivered within 5 day to my Fiancee wiht FedEx service.

I have color copies of the following however these are the only artifacts I cannot produce originals for:

1. I-797
2. Engagement Receipt
3. Hotel Receipts (October 09)
4. Boarding Passes (October 09)

Your Advice is Appreciated, Should we reschedule the interview until we can get a new I-797?

Thank you,

Robert
y2catalystMaleChina2010-07-15 23:18:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresUSA is now Arizona
Thanks for the advice after my bad attitude, I just was not prepared for a no answer, I guess I should have been less optimistic, but I also could not ignore her emotions that triggered me.

I knew the circumstance of her previous B1 Visitor and she had all supporting documents about that case with her and if the matter was a concern to the VO she was prepared to present artifacts about that case to the VO but he did not want to hear or take any of our standard evidence after he asked 3 questions and look aimlessly for 5 minutes before handing the white slip.

For whatever it is worth sent fax of a long letter I wrote to Guangzhou detailing her previous B1 case and how that should be a concern when I am her sponsor and all the evidence she tried to present for our case was not looked at. I did CC: my Congressman. I don’t expect anything action from this and expect my letter will be ignored.

Yes, planning to just marry in Chongqing 1st week of September. Sorry again to all.
y2catalystMaleChina2010-08-01 18:55:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresUSA is now Arizona
Thank you all for both your negative and positive comments. Either way some good will come of this thread and yes calmer minds prevail. Yes, I am calmer, I started this thread in the heat of the moment when I listen to the anguish of my Fiancée which I was never prepared to hear and thus my anguish.

Ok, thanks, I have read every comment and advice. Maybe this thread will help other’s in the future. I think I maybe I know where the issue is, she was refused a visitor visa in the past. I have already wrote my Congressman with a copy to Guangzhou Embassy and I am prepared do go the distance.
Who can I blame, no I cannot blame anyone and especially my race. Purely being emotional. I have struggled like many on this visa journey. I am sure many here started from little to getting where you are and what you have because you are a warrior. Yes, by nature I am a warrior and will I go for it, thank you.

After this post I think I know the specific issue which was likely her past visitor visa refusal in 2007 which I did not think would be an issue. I would be happy to share the detail of her circumstance for others to learn but I have already put myself out there so I want to go back in my personal shell (Teepee) and just fight for her like a warrior and I am sure we will be ok, just a little more time.

Sorry again to everyone here
y2catalystMaleChina2010-07-31 00:16:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresUSA is now Arizona
"The Counculate has determined, based on your testimony, documents and any other evidance,that you do not have a bona fide relationship with your petitioner"

Three questions

1. When we met
2. How many time is see her in China
3. Are we engaged

Looked at his computer 5 minutes and issued white slip

All phone, travel, records, EOR letter, engagement ring, money trandfers and forms complete and verified by Lawyer but were never asked for even though she tried to present them.

April 2009 meet on internet
Oct 2009 two weeks in Chongqing and were engaged, showed her ring
Dec 2009 file K1

Attached Files


y2catalystMaleChina2010-07-30 16:43:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresUSA is now Arizona

any news on what was in the white slip?


y2catalystMaleChina2010-07-30 16:31:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresUSA is now Arizona

To the OP:

How many times did you visit her? Are they documented?


Visit once, October 2009. I will go back end of the month to visit again and try to file K1 again but my lawyer said if I go at the end of the month just marry her then. So we will try again either way.
y2catalystMaleChina2010-07-30 15:52:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresUSA is now Arizona
Sorry, last post, sorry, My head is obviously not all there, my divorce was final July 2009.
y2catalystMaleChina2010-07-30 12:57:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresUSA is now Arizona

You do. In the letters of intent, you specifically state that you are ready, willing and able to marry each other. One partner still being married (even if a divorce is pending) makes that statement untrue.

If this is actually the case, then that'd be exactly why the K1 Visa was denied. Nothing to do with race or discrimination, just a lack of planning and understanding the rules on behalf of the petitioner.



Sorry to everyone I offended, I can’t repost or take any words back as you know I was emotionally charged when I received the new. Arizona wants to profile, different subject and should not use that headline. As far as race card, how can I play that card, it will get me nothing with this application or appeal.

Well, there are several good comments on both sides of the fence, but at the same time I was wrong to point my race for any reason, on the other hand we did everything I can think of, including having attorney, income and solid root in this Country. Deciding to live in another country to be with who I love has nothing to do that I hate USA, but I hate this process where some VO is splitting hairs on bona fide relationship without looking at future evidence.

Ok, yes, Divorce filed and separated in 2007 and I explained this in letter but they never want to look at my EOR letter and attached Divorce filing. I met her in April 2009 on internet, so maybe this is the reason, I will let lawyer advice from here.

Hope those offended get over the offence, we all face some discrimination throughout our life, and my comment is not intended to discriminate or use race card, I am Just shocked! Will be my last post here so everyone can get on with their life as well I.
y2catalystMaleChina2010-07-30 12:52:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresUSA is now Arizona
All front loading was in I-129F which included travel, modest money I send her every month, communication records and engagement ring receipt. Additional ongoing proof they never looked at it.
y2catalystMaleChina2010-07-30 11:06:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresUSA is now Arizona
No red flags that I am aware. The only thing I can think is my Divoce was filed in 2007 and the divorce was final July 2010. I put that in my letter with copies of 2007 copy of filed divoce. I met Zheng April 2009 and visited her October 2009, So I can go back this month and file again in September.
y2catalystMaleChina2010-07-30 10:48:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresUSA is now Arizona
Regardless of my post, the emotions are high like many other’s before me and I know I am not the only one faced with this situation regardless of race. My point is #######! Where did we go wrong, I can’t figure it out. The letter received said we did not prove Bona fide relationship, but they never look at any of our proof. Zheng has simple life so nothing in her background and nothing in by background. The letter said the case will be sent back to CIS where I can contact them and file appeal. Is it easier for me just to go back to Chongqing again this month get more proof and file K1 Visa again in September?

Sorry for offending anyone but everyone in this world is offended some way or another, please don’t miss my point.

Edited by y2catalyst, 30 July 2010 - 10:26 AM.

y2catalystMaleChina2010-07-30 10:25:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresUSA is now Arizona

Good day!1..my fiance is also an American Indian(both of his parents), but he is proud to say that he is American and never let his ethnicity hinder his goals in life...you,ranting here, wouldn't help you at all...most of the people here were being good to you, trying to give encouragements, but somehow you've been acting a lil rude(sorry to say that)..there might be other reasons why your petition was denied...as for us,we will be having my interview this coming August..me & my fiance are really praying that by God's will, we will get an approval(somehow, I would like to know if your assumption is right.. :) )I guess, it's not whether who you or what you have..It's about faith, being humble and respectful to what is there,...things happen for a reason..if it is for you, if will be for you no matter what will happen...just hang on, your attorney might find solutions to help you&your fiancee on your petition...God bless!!... :) ..have a good day ahead!!.. :D



I talk to her many hours today, we will not give up, I do not say I am above or less than anyone and my citizenship is rooted in this country since it was founded. Yes, I am angry and sad because there are things I do not understand, I know it is more than income and mine is over 100k per year. I overcame hardships growing up and made choices along the way that put me in a position where I think I can decide to exercise my rights as a citizen of USA regardless of what Country she is from and marry her. We talked a long time today and I think I will go to Chongqing in a few weeks again, and file K1 Visa Again and see why USA will refuse us Again!
y2catalystMaleChina2010-07-30 09:16:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresUSA is now Arizona
your the clowns, we do have an attorney, lets see what he has to say.
y2catalystMaleChina2010-07-30 08:21:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresUSA is now Arizona
What are you talking about, they did not even take the EOR letter, yet let Zheng say anything at the interview. Just a quick no! I am sure I make twice as much as you and your family put into this slipping USA economy. What's your point?
y2catalystMaleChina2010-07-30 02:12:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresUSA is now Arizona
What’s hard, I know why it is hard, because I am not Freaking white in USA, this is why, the USA use the Navajo language to Fu#@$% Japan and now USA Fu#@$% cheat me and Zheng and now I hope the world can see American Indians were removed from this planet long ago. I would rather live in China with Zheng then go through this again.
y2catalystMaleChina2010-07-30 01:27:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresUSA is now Arizona
The gender of interview was a Chinese man, I have sent my lawyer the White slip copy tomorrow. Best Case I will move to China if that is what it takes. This country already robbed my heritage many years ago so #######, I will not let USA rob me now.
y2catalystMaleChina2010-07-30 01:09:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresUSA is now Arizona
Point is Now American Indian will have to prove they are from USA, hmmm, I think I will move to China to be with the woman I love.
y2catalystMaleChina2010-07-30 00:48:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresUSA is now Arizona
Un Freaking believable, All our paperwork was perfect to my knowledge. Zheng had so much support at Guangzhou from other Visa goers and they help to verify again our paper work and evidence. The interviewer asked my Fiancee 2 questions which she answered them perfect. She speaks very good English and she tried to present my EOR letter at the interview and other sufficient evidence but they did not want to accept anything and gave her a white slip. I am very successful and have made so much freaking money in this country and paid so much taxes in this country and this makes me furious that they would treat me like sh#$%, and they treat her like sh#$%, then it is as if my country who I can’t imagine how much I have paid in taxes would not accept any of our evidence. Like most of you we have spent over a year in our relationship committed and in love and it comes down to this B.S. #######. What Freaking proof do they need with a white slip,, , no offense, I am American Indian and I did everything next to NOT being WHITE, so #######, is this why I have a WHITE SLIP, USA is still in the Freaking south, it's now USA called Arizona, can't give an American Indian a break who loves a Chinese Woman.

Edited by y2catalyst, 30 July 2010 - 12:45 AM.

y2catalystMaleChina2010-07-30 00:44:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresCan my fiancee fax the form G-325A to me?
Just received I-797 Notice of Action and was approved. I sent in her scanned 325a with her signature. Worked for us.
y2catalystMaleChina2010-04-03 22:44:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresRed Flag List for visa denial
I initially want to say this website is tremendous tool to this community because of the willingness of those who share their knowledge and experiences for others to benefit.

I have all the personal relationship history captured including family photos which are all compelling to our relationship. Her English is not perfect however very good and we almost exclusive communicate 30 minutes by telephone once or twice a day where I maintain a prepaid call log. I can assume I meet the income qualification of over 100k even though I am sure this is no guarantee, otherwise I would not be looking at other areas that can foil the visa approval.

I will make sure we will incorporate all the suggestions posted here in our preparation as we move closer to the Interview date. I hope others can benefit from the advice offered here. After this post I will now accompany my finesse at her interview when the time comes.

Thank you Again,

Rob
y2catalystMaleChina2010-01-02 21:31:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresRed Flag List for visa denial
Great feedback, thank you! I feel much better about our position.

Rob
y2catalystMaleChina2010-01-02 13:21:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresRed Flag List for visa denial
Maybe it's just my anxiety reading some of the horror stories about visa denials at interviews. I am a little concerned about the potential emotional roller coaster from these stories. I gathered from some other forum topics potential RED FLAG list. One of the RED FLAGS was if the petitioner has had a recent divorce before engagement with new fiancée.

My divorce was filed 10/2007 and was final 07/2009 and have been on my own for over a 1 ½ years. I just filed my 129f 12/2009. Why should this be a red flag since divorces in USA can take sever month or a few years. During this period of separation many people establish new relationships that have no bearing on a future with their new partner, so why would the matter just because my fiancée is from a different country?

Thanks,

Rob


Our Background:

I never imagined I would get involved with someone from a different country. I joined online dating service 3/2009 and Out of curiosity I did a profile search in China from my online dating service and made contact to whom is now my fiancée in 04/2009. We are well established emotionally, documentation, phone/email records, 14 travel in 10/2009, etc and we are fully committed to marry. After I returned from China I ambitiously prepared the 129f and sent the petition on 12/31/2009
y2catalystMaleChina2010-01-02 12:21:00